BREAKING: HISTORIC JUDGMENT. Bush & Associates Found Guilty of Torture

[LordDinar]

BREAKING: HISTORIC JUDGMENT. Bush & Associates Found Guilty of Torture

A solid case for the prosecution of Bush, Blair, Rumsfeld, Cheney, their legal counsel and others, for war crimes, crimes against the peace, torture, and crimes against humanity has been established at the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal with a guilty verdict on day 5 of the third major session of the Tribunal.

KUALA LUMPUR, 11 May 2012 (mathaba)

The five-panel tribunal unanimously delivered a guilty verdict against former United States President George W. Bush and his associates at the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal hearing that had started on Monday, May 7th.

On the charge of Crime of Torture and War Crimes, the tribunal finds the accused persons former U.S. President George W. Bush and his associates namely Richard Cheney, former U.S. Vice President, Donald Rumsfeld, former Defence Secretary, Alberto Gonzales, then Counsel to President Bush, David Addington, then General Counsel to the Vice-President, William Haynes II, then General Counsel to Secretary of Defence, Jay Bybee, then Assistant Attorney General, and John Choon Yoo, former Deputy Assistant Attorney-General guilty as charged and convicted as war criminals for Torture and Cruel, Inhumane and Degrading Treatment of the Complainant War Crime Victims.

Earlier in the week, the tribunal heard the testimonies of three witnesses namely Abbas Abid, Moazzam Begg and Jameelah Hameedi. They related the horrific tortures they had faced during their incarceration. The tribunal also heard two other Statutory Declarations of Iraqi citizen Ali Shalal and Rhuhel Ahmed, a British citizen.

Testimony showed that Abbas Abid, a 48-year-old chief engineer in the Science and Technology Ministry had his fingernails removed by pliers. Ali Shalal was attached with bare electrical wires and electrocuted and hung from the wall. Moazzam Begg was beaten and put in solitary confinement. Jameelah was almost nude and humiliated, used as a human shield whilst being transported by helicopter. All these witnesses have residual injuries till today.

These witnesses were taken prisoners and held in prisons in Afghanistan (Bagram), in Iraq (Abu Gharib, Baghdad International Airport) and two of them namely Moazzam Begg and Rhuhel Ahmed were transported to Guantanamo Bay.

In a submission that lasted a day, the prosecution showed in an in depth submission how the decision-makers at the highest level President Bush, Vice-President Cheney, Secretary of Defence Rumsfeld, aided and abetted by the lawyers and the other commanders and CIA officials – all acted in concert. Torture was systematically applied and became an accepted norm.

According to the prosecution, the testimony of all the witnesses shows a sustained perpetration of brutal, barbaric, cruel and dehumanizing course of conduct against them. These acts of crimes were applied cumulatively to inflict the worst possible pain and suffering.

After hearing the defence of the Amicus Curiae and the subsequent rebuttal the prosecution, the tribunal ruled unanimously that there was a prima facie case made out by the prosecution.

After hours of deliberation, the tribunal, in the verdict that was read out by the president of the tribunal Tan Sri Dato Lamin bin Haji Mohd Yunus Lamin, found that the prosecution had established beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused persons, former President George Bush and his co-conspirators engaged in a web of instructions, memos, directives, legal advice and action that established a common plan and purpose, joint enterprise and/or conspiracy to commit the crimes of Torture and War Crimes, including and not limited to a common plan and purpose to commit the following crimes in relation to the “War on Terror” and the wars launched by the U.S. and others in Afghanistan and Iraq:

(a) Torture; ( Creating, authorizing and implementing a regime of Cruel, Inhumane, and Degrading Treatment; © Violating Customary International Law; (d) Violating the Convention Against Torture 1984; (e) Violating the Geneva Convention III and IV 1949; (f) Violating the Common Article 3 of the Geneva Convention of 1949. (g) Violating the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the United Nations Charter.

The Tribunal finds that the prosecution has established beyond a reasonable doubt that the Accused persons are individually and jointly liable for all crimes committed in pursuit of their common plan and purpose under principles established by Article 6 of the Charter of the International Military Tribunal (the Nuremberg Charter), which states, inter alia, “Leaders, organizers, instigators and accomplices participating in the formulation or execution of a common plan or conspiracy to commit war crimes are responsible for all acts performed by any person in execution of such plan.”

The Principles of the Nuremberg Charter and the Nuremberg Decision have been adopted as customary international law by the United Nations. The government of the United States is subject to customary international law and to the Principles of the Nuremburg Charter and the Nuremburg Decision.

The Tribunal finds that the prosecution has proven beyond reasonable doubt that the accused lawyers, gave ‘advice’ that “the Geneva Conventions did not apply (to suspected al Qaeda and Taliban detainees); that there was no torture occurring within the meaning of the Torture Convention, and that enhanced interrogations techniques, (constituting cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment,) were permissible.”

The prosecution has also established beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused lawyers “knew full well their advice was being sought to be acted upon, and in fact was acted upon, and such advice paved the way for violations of international law, the Geneva Conventions and the Torture Convention.”

The accused lawyers’ advice was binding on the accused Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney, each of whom relied on the accused lawyers’ advice. Others, such as CIA Director George Tenet and Diane Beaver, officer in charge at Guantanamo, relied on the accused lawyers’ advice. The prosecution had established beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused lawyers are criminally liable for their acts, and for participating in a joint criminal enterprise.

The president read that the Tribunal orders that reparations commensurate with the irreparable harm and injury, pain and suffering undergone by the Complainant War Crime Victims be paid to the Complainant War Crime Victims. While it is constantly mindful of its stature as merely a tribunal of conscience with no real power of enforcement, the Tribunal finds that the witnesses in this case are entitled ex justitia to the payment of reparations by the 8 convicted persons and their government.

It is the Tribunal’s hope that armed with the findings of this Tribunal, the witnesses will, in the near future, find a state or an international judicial entity able and willing to exercise jurisdiction and to enforce the verdict of this Tribunal against the 8 convicted persons and their government. The Tribunal’s award of reparations shall be submitted to the War Crimes Commission to facilitate the determination and collection of reparations by the Complainant War Crime Victims.

President Lamin read, “As a tribunal of conscience, the Tribunal is fully aware that its verdict is merely declaratory in nature. The tribunal has no power of enforcement, no power to impose any custodial sentence on any one or more of the 8 convicted persons. What we can do, under Article 31 of Chapter VI of Part 2 of the Charter is to recommend to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission to submit this finding of conviction by the Tribunal, together with a record of these proceedings, to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council.

The Tribunal also recommends to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission that the names of all the 8 convicted persons be entered and included in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals and be publicized accordingly.

The Tribunal recommends to the War Crimes Commission to give the widest international publicity to this conviction and grant of reparations, as these are universal crimes for which there is a responsibility upon nations to institute prosecutions if any of these Accused persons may enter their jurisdictions.

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[DiveDeepSix]

NEXT UP ON THE STAND: All the victims from 911, Oh wait, no rebuttals because they all died, thanks to a bunch of suicidal psychopathic cowards.

I really don't care what Bush and co. did to get info from these animals if it saved American lives. I'm sick of the current administration coddling these clowns and giving them rights set a side for American citizens. Where were the rights of all the innocent victims they killed? They are just lucky I'm not in charge of intel gathering or these people would learn a new meaning of the word torture. They have no rights, they gave them up when they decided to attack innocent civilians on our soil unprovoked in the name of their religion!

Just like the rash of attacks after some of our soldiers posed with the remains of a suicide bomber, hmmm but it's OK to behead one of our own and put it on video? Or drag a decapitated soldier of ours down the streets naked? I think NOT! The liberals protecting these people make me want to puke and they'd be crying out the back sides of their heads if it were their families that were tortured, maimed, and killed, then they'd be screaming to pull out all the stops for some good old American JUSTICE!!!!

The only law these people understand comes out the business end of a rifle barrel! When criminals have no fear of committing heinous crimes against humanity because they know we will bring them here, give them a trial, and coddle them in a prison where they can live better then most working American families, we have a problem!

Better idea, you attack Americans, we pull out all the stops to wipe you off the face of the planet! "Now we're gonna give you a fair trial followed up by a first class hanging!"

Great pic by the way, I can imagine the current dictator standing behind Bush, thinking serves you right hurting my muslim brothers!

Edited May 12, 2012 by DiveDeepSix

[LordDinar]

NEXT UP ON THE STAND: All the victims from 911, Oh wait, no rebuttals because they all died, thanks to a bunch of suicidal psychopathic cowards.

I really don't care what Bush and co. did to get info from these animals if it saved American lives. I'm sick of the current administration coddling these clowns and giving them rights set a side for American citizens. Where were the rights of all the innocent victims they killed? They are just lucky I'm not in charge of intel gathering or these people would learn a new meaning of the word torture. They have no rights, they gave them up when they decided to attack innocent civilians on our soil unprovoked in the name of their religion!

Just like the rash of attacks after some of our soldiers posed with the remains of a suicide bomber, hmmm but it's OK to behead one of our own and put it on video? Or drag a decapitated soldier of ours down the streets naked? I think NOT! The liberals protecting these people make me want to puke and they'd be crying out the back sides of their heads if it were their families that were tortured, maimed, and killed, then they'd be screaming to pull out all the stops for some good old American JUSTICE!!!!

The only law these people understand comes out the business end of a rifle barrel! When criminals have no fear of committing heinous crimes against humanity because they know we will bring them here, give them a trial, and coddle them in a prison where they can live better then most working American families, we have a problem!

Better idea, you attack Americans, we pull out all the stops to wipe you off the face of the planet! "Now we're gonna give you a fair trial followed up by a first class hanging!"

Just curious, who do you believe did 9/11, and why do you believe that?

[bluebow]

This story was on Press TV months ago. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/211590.html

Press TV Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:38AM GMT

This it not breaking news.

[divemaster5734]

NEXT UP ON THE STAND: All the victims from 911, Oh wait, no rebuttals because they all died, thanks to a bunch of suicidal psychopathic cowards.

I really don't care what Bush and co. did to get info from these animals if it saved American lives. I'm sick of the current administration coddling these clowns and giving them rights set a side for American citizens. Where were the rights of all the innocent victims they killed? They are just lucky I'm not in charge of intel gathering or these people would learn a new meaning of the word torture. They have no rights, they gave them up when they decided to attack innocent civilians on our soil unprovoked in the name of their religion!

Just like the rash of attacks after some of our soldiers posed with the remains of a suicide bomber, hmmm but it's OK to behead one of our own and put it on video? Or drag a decapitated soldier of ours down the streets naked? I think NOT! The liberals protecting these people make me want to puke and they'd be crying out the back sides of their heads if it were their families that were tortured, maimed, and killed, then they'd be screaming to pull out all the stops for some good old American JUSTICE!!!!

The only law these people understand comes out the business end of a rifle barrel! When criminals have no fear of committing heinous crimes against humanity because they know we will bring them here, give them a trial, and coddle them in a prison where they can live better then most working American families, we have a problem!

Better idea, you attack Americans, we pull out all the stops to wipe you off the face of the planet! "Now we're gonna give you a fair trial followed up by a first class hanging!"

The Islamic hypocrisy is almost as frustrating as the lies that came from all our presidents for the last 40 years.

I agree with your principal, if we do engage in a war then it is no holds barred winner take all let's whoop some butt.

That being said, almost every freaking war we have been involved in since WW2 we were set up through lies, deceit, false flag operations, and our "own side" participating in the murder of Americans, only to blame it on someone else in order to incite hatred and rage.

If we do have an actual enemy in an actual war, I agree, show no mercy.

The only problem with that is the people we have been killing for 100 years have been just as manipulated as us.

It's all about divide and conquer.

The elites against the commoner.

In every country, around the globe.

[DiveDeepSix]

Just curious, who do you believe did 9/11, and why do you believe that?

Bin Laden and co. LD I've seen and read all the conspiracy allegations surrounding 911. I do think we knew more then we let on, but when someone is willing to kill themselves to hit a target they are pretty hard to stop no matter what you do. Look at the kamikaze pilots, you can't shoot them all down! As far as Bush doing 911, no way, no how. The only president in the history of the USA that would knowingly hurt American civilians at this level is the one currently in office! Bush wasn't my favorite president but I've met him personally and there is no way he would have pulled 911. Believe what you want, we will never know all the answers anyway.

The only problem with that is the people we have been killing for 100 years have been just as manipulated as us.

Agreed, most of the ME population has no idea what is going on because they've been taught since birth to hate us. Unfortunately our enemy hides behind civilians like the cowards they are!

Edited May 12, 2012 by DiveDeepSix

[carlos in san diego]

Thanks again L / D! Since I have'nt seen anyone accuse you of Bush bashing, then...can it be that people are finally accepting that Bush is a criminal?

Please keep it up! These are the kinds of "propaganda" we need, instead of what the MSM puts out!

Carlos

[82Corp.]

DiveDeepSix I took a second look at the photo, third look even and it's clearly a Jack A$$ behind President George W. Bush.

Edited May 12, 2012 by 82Corp.

[Thaiten7]

What would this world look like if the US didn't come to the aid of the world! Europe would be a dictatorship.Joseph Stalin, Adolfo Hitler, Mao Zedong.. This wold be your leaders.... One day the US will not come to your aid...what then are we evil,uncaring... The US can do no right in the eyes of socialist..

[Big Duke Six]

I wonder how the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal intend on handing out their judgement!! LOL Maybe O will hand them over!

Duke Out!

[DiveDeepSix]

DiveDeepSix I took a second look at the photo, third look even and it's clearly a Jack A$$ behind President George W. Bush.

LOL, right you are 82! :lol:

[dog53]

So What. Screw them. Lets see them come over here and make an arrest. hahahaha Yeah whats a few more dead jihadist.

[LordDinar]

This story was on Press TV months ago. http://www.presstv.i...ail/211590.html

Press TV Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:38AM GMT

This it not breaking news.

I suggest reading more closely before inserting foot.

KUALA LUMPUR, 11 May 2012

[MoonRover]

kuala lumpar????

[aliciadogz]

Is that all liberals got,is Bush.You guys need to get over it.Have a nice day!

[LordDinar]

Bin Laden and co. LD I've seen and read all the conspiracy allegations surrounding 911. I do think we knew more then we let on, but when someone is willing to kill themselves to hit a target they are pretty hard to stop no matter what you do. Look at the kamikaze pilots, you can't shoot them all down! As far as Bush doing 911, no way, no how. The only president in the history of the USA that would knowingly hurt American civilians at this level is the one currently in office! Bush wasn't my favorite president but I've met him personally and there is no way he would have pulled 911. Believe what you want, we will never know all the answers anyway.

No, you have not read them all, you only think you have.

Twist the story right to "Bush did 9/11"...where did you get that from?

Glad because you have met Bush, it clears his name. Thanks.

You might never know all the answers, the rest of us will.

Where do you have a link showing Bin Laden (Tim Osman, CIA) did 9/11?

Osama is classified among among The FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives.

However, on the Usama bin Laden page on the FBI website, there is no explicit statement to the effect that he might be wanted in connection to the Septmber 11, 2001 attacks.

At eleven o’clock, on the morning of September 11, the Bush administration had already announced that Al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks on the World Trade Center (WTC) and the Pentagon. This assertion was made prior to the conduct of an indepth police investigation conducted by the FBI.. The FBI confirmed in a recent statement (July 2006) that "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on the Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because "the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11" (See the Muckracker Report, See also Enver Masud, FBI: Bin Laden Not Wanted for 9/11? The 'FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11', Wisdom Fund, June 2006). Rex Tom, FBI Director of Investigative Publictiy stated in this regard that

“The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice then decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11

because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11

.”

Why did Bush say he wasn't concerned about Bin Laden only 6 months after 9/11?

Oh wait....later in 2004 he said he never said that...so that clears that up.

kuala lumpar????

Two words and you got it wrong. Never heard of it?

Just the latest of many countries (Malaysia) that have came to the same conclusion.

What would this world look like if the US didn't come to the aid of the world! Europe would be a dictatorship.Joseph Stalin, Adolfo Hitler, Mao Zedong.. This wold be your leaders.... One day the US will not come to your aid...what then are we evil,uncaring... The US can do no right in the eyes of socialist..

Yeah, lucky 'ol Prescott Bush funded Hitler...oh but you already knew that...you are an American Patriot....

Edited May 12, 2012 by LordDinar

[Lutie]

Wow L/D this is really reaching. Considering the type of stories that have come out the last few days like Romney's antics in high school.

I think the libs are getting a little desperate. Maybe Obama and his thugs can go and serve these poor bastards in Gitmo tea and crumpets while they tell them our next move in fighting the Islam terrorist.

[cris]

I've convened my own Tribunal this morning ( actually its just me )

My conclussions....Kuala Lumpur is guilty of being a ridiculous muslim

stronghold, and having no influence on world matters. I have also found

them guilty of wasting everyones time by passing outrageous judgements

on world leaders

The sentence.....Malaysia is condemned to be a continual ineffective 3rd

world country, leaving Kuala Lumpur to wallow in squalor.

[LordDinar]

I've convened my own Tribunal this morning ( actually its just me )

My conclussions....Kuala Lumpur is guilty of being a ridiculous muslim

stronghold, and having no influence on world matters. I have also found

them guilty of wasting everyones time by passing outrageous judgements

on world leaders

The sentence.....Malaysia is condemned to be a continual ineffective 3rd

world country, leaving Kuala Lumpur to wallow in squalor.

So I guess you will say the same of Canada?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sbsy90NlCY&feature=related

[TexasGranny]

LD, I have a few questions for you.

#1. If all your conspiracy theories are in fact true - What are you wanting people to do about it?

#2 Are you pushing for Anarchy, Socialism, Communism - What?

#3 Suppose the citizens of the world unite to oppose the elitists - What then?

#4 How do you see a new world if there are no Bilderbergs, Rothchilds, Bush's, Clinton's, IMF, World Bank, elitists?

#5 Are you wanting the U. S. to be isolationist?

#6 See - you have brought all of this "propaganda" to the forum for what purpose - to open our eyes to something YOU think needs correcting OR to stir up citizens of the US against our government (such as it is)

#7 Are you a US Citizen or someone from another country trying to instigate unrest in the US?

I will NOT get into a debate with you over any of the above questions - just curious to see which ones you answer and which ones you dodge.

[cris]

So I guess you will say the same of Canada?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sbsy90NlCY&feature=related

Yep, I would say that.......Keith Olbermann reporting

on MSNBC with a Ultra Liberal, Lawyers against the war

spokesman.......I think I can pretty much discount

anything they say

[HughJeffin Byrd]

LD, I have a few questions for you.

#1. If all your conspiracy theories are in fact true - What are you wanting people to do about it?

#2 Are you pushing for Anarchy, Socialism, Communism - What?

#3 Suppose the citizens of the world unite to oppose the elitists - What then?

#4 How do you see a new world if there are no Bilderbergs, Rothchilds, Bush's, Clinton's, IMF, World Bank, elitists?

#5 Are you wanting the U. S. to be isolationist?

#6 See - you have brought all of this "propaganda" to the forum for what purpose - to open our eyes to something YOU think needs correcting OR to stir up citizens of the US against our government (such as it is)

#7 Are you a US Citizen or someone from another country trying to instigate unrest in the US?

I will NOT get into a debate with you over any of the above questions - just curious to see which ones you answer and which ones you dodge.

#4 How do you see a new world if there are no Bilderbergs, Rothchilds, Bush's, Clinton's, IMF, World Bank, elitists?

Is that a serious question? You're okay with over 30,000 of your own people killed on 9/11 by these people? Jesus... you need to be ruled in order to live your life? Is that what you're implying?

Edited May 12, 2012 by HughJeffin Byrd

[rightsonword]

#4 How do you see a new world if there are no Bilderbergs, Rothchilds, Bush's, Clinton's, IMF, World Bank, elitists?

Is that a serious question? You're okay with over 30,000 of your own people killed on 9/11 by these people? Jesus... you need to be ruled in order to live your life? Is that what you're implying?

I'd see a world with a little less corruption. But that's just me.

[HughJeffin Byrd]

Everyone of those questions are sad that they need to be asked... Texas Granny, I'm a fan of yours, but I cannot believe those questions... it's almost like your endorsing Americans just deal with a tyrannical government and oppression like it's part of life and cannot be fixed... like life is supposed to be this way? You've been conditioned to think this way.

For those that are part of the trusting complicit who collectively ignore, just please realize that you or your loved ones could be the next victims of a false flag and this is not a game, I lost several loved ones on 9/11 and I will not have their memory betrayed and justice will be had:

Edited May 12, 2012 by HughJeffin Byrd

[MrDinarman]

Just curious, who do you believe did 9/11, and why do you believe that?

YOU DID IT!!