Don't tell Paul's Supporters the primary's over

[TPSprayduster]

http://news.yahoo.com/dont-tell-pauls-supporters-primary-over-081108440.html

If all he wants is a chance to speak by all means Dr Paul you have your slot just support Mitt

WASHINGTON (AP) — Don't tell Ron Paul the Republican primary is over. He's too busy mucking up Mitt Romney's efforts to accumulate enough convention delegates to officially claim the GOP nomination for president.

Paul's supporters won control of state GOP conventions in Maine and Nevada last weekend, stripping Romney of delegates in Maine but graciously letting him keep the ones he won in Nevada's February caucuses. Next up: Republican state conventions in Minnesota, Missouri, Louisiana and Iowa.

"I don't think they'll be able to ignore us completely," said Kevin Erickson, a pastor from northeastern Minnesota who rescheduled a surgery to qualify as a national convention delegate for Paul.

The father of five supports his family on a single income but said he's budgeted about $6,000 to attend the GOP's August convention in Tampa, Fla. A lifelong Republican, Erickson said he's working hard for a platform that denounces what he sees as a weakening of due process when it comes to detentions authorized by the USA Patriot Act. He expects to have plenty of company.

Paul won't threaten Romney's hold on the GOP nomination — Romney's delegate lead is so big he is likely to reach the 1,144 delegates he needs to clinch the nomination by the end of the month. The former Massachusetts governor is already in general election mode, focusing his energy on uniting the GOP and defeating President Barack Obama in November.

But Paul could have enough supporters in Tampa to cause trouble if they don't get what they want. And what do they want?

At the very least, they want a prominent speaking role for Paul at the convention, said Marianne Stebbins, who has coordinated Paul efforts in Minnesota. More broadly, they want a platform for their message of limited government as they work to reshape the Republican Party, one state at a time.

"I hope they're smart," Stebbins said of the Romney campaign. "Those margins, Romney versus Obama, are so thin that I hope they don't shove an entire constituency out of the party that they will need in November."

The Romney campaign treads lightly around Paul, careful not to offend his supporters but insistent that Romney is the nominee.

"Gov. Romney has a lot of respect for Dr. Paul and the energy his supporters bring to the process," Romney campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said in an email. "We look forward to working together to help Mitt Romney defeat President Obama this fall. As for individual state conventions, make no mistake that the Tampa convention will nominate Mitt Romney, and it will be his convention."

Romney has 856 delegates — 288 shy of the number he needs to clinch the nomination. Paul, a Texas congressman, has 94, according to an Associated Press count.

There are 107 delegates at stake in primaries Tuesday in North Carolina, Indiana and West Virginia.

Primaries have not been Paul's strong suit — he hasn't won a single primary or caucus. But Paul's supporters have successfully navigated the convention process in a number of states, adding to Paul's delegate total while gaining influence over state parties.

In Iowa and Nevada, Paul supporters were elected to lead their state Republican parties. In Maine, two Paul supporters were elected to the Republican National Committee. In Massachusetts, Paul's supporters denied a delegate spot to Kerry Healey, Romney's former lieutenant governor, even though Romney won the state's presidential primary with 72 percent of the vote, according to The Boston Globe.

"I've urged people to take the 'over' in terms of how many delegates they think Paul will have at the convention," said Josh Putnam, an assistant political science professor at Davidson University who writes the political blog Frontloading HQ.

Paul's supporters are likely to make similar inroads in Minnesota, which holds its state GOP convention May 18-19. Paul has already dominated the state's congressional district conventions, winning at least 18 of the 24 national delegates selected, even though he finished a distant second to Rick Santorum in local caucuses in February.

"Republican Party activists with Paul leanings are affirming the campaign's delegate-win strategy and making lasting inroads into the party infrastructure, broadening the Republican footprint and strengthening the GOP base that suffers from a dearth of enthusiasm," Paul's national campaign manager, John Tate, said in a statement.

Many of Paul's libertarian views dovetail nicely with mainstream Republican ideas on limited government and low taxes. But Paul breaks with much of his party when he rails against American intervention abroad and government efforts to fight terrorism at home.

Paul will probably get a speaking slot at the convention but his influence over the party platform and power will be limited, said Rich Galen, a GOP strategist and former Newt Gingrich aide who is neutral in the 2012 race.

"If Ron Paul gets more delegates than Newt Gingrich, then he gets at least as good of a prime-time slot to speak at the convention," Galen said. But, he added, "Ron Paul's not going to be vice president, and he's not going to get a plank in the platform that Romney doesn't want."

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[Mongo]

It ain't over till the fat lady sings..........................................and she's a Ron Paul delegate in Minnesota:lol:

[divemaster5734]

Really TP?

In the end, you are nothing but an agitator, aren't you?

You carried on "discussions", even acted like you accepted when you were completely wrong.

Yet, here you are, slinging mud and the primaries are not even started in some states, it's not yet 8am on the west coast.

[TPSprayduster]

Really TP?

In the end, you are nothing but an agitator, aren't you?

You carried on "discussions", even acted like you accepted when you were completely wrong.

Yet, here you are, slinging mud and the primaries are not even started in some states, it's not yet 8am on the west coast.

So telling the truth is being an agitator? no Dive it is not. I am not here to be accepted just another opinion other than the status quo. Ron Paul this and Ron Paul that. Not everyone supports Ron Paul and no i won't write in his name if he is not the Nominee as some have said they would do. What mud has been slung? That i don't agree with the methods of gather delegates courtesy of the Paul campaign and everyone seems to be ok with it? The people voted and now if you look at it from a certain point of view their vote went out the window when the various Paul groups took over the State's conventions and now are poised to cause havoc at the convention. Now do they represent the people or is the beginning of the New World Order that some have been raving about. I know most of you won't look at it this way but if a certain group can control a convention what else can they accomplish? Never looked at it that way did you Dive.

P.S. I see i won 3 negatives, well i guess when you tell the truth RP folks get upset. Sorry to out your platform.

Edited May 8, 2012 by TPSprayduster

[40oz]

So telling the truth is being an agitator? no Dive it is not. I am not here to be accepted just another opinion other than the status quo. Ron Paul this and Ron Paul that. Not everyone supports Ron Paul and no i won't write in his name if he is not the Nominee as some have said they would do. What mud has been slung? That i don't agree with the methods of gather delegates courtesy of the Paul campaign and everyone seems to be ok with it? The people voted and now if you look at it from a certain point of view their vote went out the window when the various Paul groups took over the State's conventions and now are poised to cause havoc at the convention. Now do they represent the people or is the beginning of the New World Order that some have been raving about. I know most of you won't look at it this way but if a certain group can control a convention what else can they accomplish? Never looked at it that way did you Dive.

Let me spell it out reaaal slow for you.

P o p u l a r V o t e I s R i g g e d.

T r u t h I s T h a t R a c e N o t O v e r.

H e r e I s F o x T o T r a n s l a t e I n t o S h e e p F o r Y o u.

And MSNBC

[divemaster5734]

So telling the truth is being an agitator? no Dive it is not. I am not here to be accepted just another opinion other than the status quo. Ron Paul this and Ron Paul that. Not everyone supports Ron Paul and no i won't write in his name if he is not the Nominee as some have said they would do. What mud has been slung? That i don't agree with the methods of gather delegates courtesy of the Paul campaign and everyone seems to be ok with it? The people voted and now if you look at it from a certain point of view their vote went out the window when the various Paul groups took over the State's conventions and now are poised to cause havoc at the convention. Now do they represent the people or is the beginning of the New World Order that some have been raving about. I know most of you won't look at it this way but if a certain group can control a convention what else can they accomplish? Never looked at it that way did you Dive.

P.S. I see i won 3 negatives, well i guess when you tell the truth RP folks get upset. Sorry to out your platform.

Truth?

You obviously don't have a clue about truth.

The primaries are far from over, yet you post this last ditch effort by the establishment to meekly attempt to sway voters that may be voting TODAY.

How can "it be over' if the voting and counting isn't over?

guess what IT ISN'T OVER YET!!!!

Don't even try to ride some stinking high horse by trying to put words in my mouth.

I have NEVER said to make RP a write in.

If you EVER listened to him, he has said he didn't think a 3rd ticket is the answer.

The people have not FINISHED voting, and all the votes are not counted.

This is the same BS that you were shilling about last month, declaring RP only had 2% of Iowa, and look at it now, he has 50% or more, and may have actually WON Iowa.

But that didn't stop you from running your mouth for a month and spreading lies.

If he doesn't fine, I will vote for anybody but obummer, but people like you need to step back from the propaganda wagon and quit making stuff up just to try to influence people.

All you are doing is telling people you don't care about honesty or integrity as long as you can try to force you opinion on others.

"look at it in a certain point of view"?

really?

What obamabot rag did that come from?

Edited May 8, 2012 by divemaster5734

[brandon2222]

At this Point TPS your just being annoying! Stop getting so pissy pants because your beloved Barak mmm mmm Hu-insane Obama is getting his A** kicked in the polls! You'll be the one lashing out and getting kicked off this site just like the rest of the demtards that pull this kind of crap on this site! Cut it out, Please!

[ErnMor]

Seems alot of People are united on the genuine need to defeat Obama. His policies are socialistic,destructive,and totally unacceptable. Romney[in my opinion] is the better of two evils,but is not a good choice. I am so down heartened to think that neither of the two are going to effect much change back to The U.S. Constition. We lose more freedoms and rights continually.Romney,[as McCAIN ,Who I held my nose and voted for] is far too liberal.He doesn't seriously talk about less Govt.,an honestly fair form of taxation[FLAT TAX],and his health care program is a plan for disaster. Ron Paul supporters need to be heard,To at least affect the plaform,if nothing else.I may be allowed to vote for Ron Paul as a republican candidate ,or not. I believe him to be the only honest candidate running.If he does not recieve the nomination then apparently we are screwed once again.I do now agree Obama & Romney have many differences,they are not the same.Ron Paul will probably not run as independent, in the interest of not splitting the vote . I will determine between now and Nov. for whom ,or if I will vote .If the Republican platform reflects return to previous constitutional ideals I can accept that,and vote accordingly. Using the Republicans own rules to gain delegates is no more wrong than not allowing Ron Paul time to speak, laughing ,and trying to paint him as a lunatic in the media and in the debates.That is just plain wrong! No need for mostly like -minded people to argue and fight. Listen and discuss the issues.We need Obama gone. No disagreement there.We need Constitutional Change on many other issues as well. Under Romney[from what I have seen] there will be differences,just not enough to make a real difference.I pray Obama will be gone,and we will have a congress,and President that can work together and restore the constition. Lets not argue.Lets work together[as much as I dislike compromise] and defeat OUR Socialist,Christian Hating,President and his minions. Return to the Constitution ,and the other problems will be easy or easier to solve. WoW! enough mental meanderings. GOD Bless the U.S. and it's CONSTITUTION. Good Day to all.

[Bandit795]

Ron Paul wins big in Maine and Nevada

[lhadler]

I live in Indiana and I'm getting ready to head to the voting booth in full support of Ron Paul and the delegates that support Ron Paul..... I'm with Mongo it aint over till it's over.....

[40oz]

I live in Indiana and I'm getting ready to head to the voting booth in full support of Ron Paul and the delegates that support Ron Paul..... I'm with Mongo it aint over till it's over.....

+ REP

[lhadler]

+ REP

Got it 40oz Thanks, I had my whole family and 8 of my employees voted the same way!!!!!

[kiteman]

At this Point TPS your just being annoying! Stop getting so pissy pants because your beloved Barak mmm mmm Hu-insane Obama is getting his A** kicked in the polls! You'll be the one lashing out and getting kicked off this site just like the rest of the demtards that pull this kind of crap on this site! Cut it out, Please!

If anyone on this thread needs mod review and a time out it's you. How do you come off calling people that name? Your latest VP candidate Sarah Baraccuda wouldn't approve of that name and would scold you for it. Not to mention it is completely insulting and rude.

Maybe you should relax and think about what you type on here. I'm sure there are many people in our community that have special needs family members that don't approve of you using that term.

You can disagree with his point all you want, but name calling makes you look like a 4th grader.

Edited May 8, 2012 by kiteman

[40oz]

Got it 40oz Thanks, I had my whole family and 8 of my employees voted the same way!!!!!

Oh my god! I love you, no homo. + 1 more...

[TPSprayduster]

Dive i never said your name and i said others on this forum, the rest you guys can sqawk all you want. if you did not win the popular vote then you don't deserve all of the delegates. Sorry that is not right, even if you exploit a rule that was not used before but hey why not use it. You all who are raising cane do not want anyone else to know or expose how the as 40 says the Ron Paulers are swiping delegates. You can insult, call names do as you please that does not bother me. But there is going to be a voice out there who is going to continue to speak up. Unless i am banded, place on MOD review you will still hear from me. Other are sitting back and reading. As Lord Dinar requested i place links because i am not a rhodes scholoar with my typing i am not perfect i never went to college.

Tonight Mitt Romney won the following Primaries

Indiana, North Carolina and West Virgina by more than 50 percent of the vote. He should pick up 100 of the 288 available which leaves him just shy of the 1144. No matter how you slice it the populace is choosing Mitt Romney. Now when the selection for delegates arises watch and see how a group of people will bombard the selection process and try and elect Ron Paul favoring delegates. Thus again trying to disenfranchise the voters who voted on May 8th. Oh well, i am going to keep bring this up and you can keep hollering and name calling all you want. I am not going away anytime soon.

At this Point TPS your just being annoying! Stop getting so pissy pants because your beloved Barak mmm mmm Hu-insane Obama is getting his A** kicked in the polls! You'll be the one lashing out and getting kicked off this site just like the rest of the demtards that pull this kind of crap on this site! Cut it out, Please!

Brandon, i would never get down to your level. When have i said i was voting for? I do not like the fact that folks disrespect our president for whom alot of folks voted for. I do not lash out as you have sir. I have sense enough not to break forum rules as you have. I do not make that decision who get kicked off this site. Pulling Crap, i believe your post was in response to the methods of the Ron Paulers as 40 deemed himself of collecting delegates.

So you won't get a response from me as i have received from you. Sorry.

I live in Indiana and I'm getting ready to head to the voting booth in full support of Ron Paul and the delegates that support Ron Paul..... I'm with Mongo it aint over till it's over.....

Romney won Indiana, West Virgina and North Carolina by more that 50 percent of the vote in each contest.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/romney-wins-republican-presidential-primaries-in-indiana-north-carolina-and-west-virginia/2012/05/08/gIQAohpdBU_story.html

[Weapon X]

Ron Paul wins big in Maine and Nevada

Ron Paul did not win Nevada unless Romney does not get to 1144. In the convention the Nevada delegates HAVE to give their 20+ votes to Romney in the first round of votes or they run the risk to not be seated at all. Also they agreed to follow the rules so unless there is a second round of voting Ron Paul did not win anything at all.

[TPSprayduster]

Truth?

You obviously don't have a clue about truth.

The primaries are far from over, yet you post this last ditch effort by the establishment to meekly attempt to sway voters that may be voting TODAY.

How can "it be over' if the voting and counting isn't over?

guess what IT ISN'T OVER YET!!!!

Don't even try to ride some stinking high horse by trying to put words in my mouth.

I have NEVER said to make RP a write in.

If you EVER listened to him, he has said he didn't think a 3rd ticket is the answer.

The people have not FINISHED voting, and all the votes are not counted.

This is the same BS that you were shilling about last month, declaring RP only had 2% of Iowa, and look at it now, he has 50% or more, and may have actually WON Iowa.

But that didn't stop you from running your mouth for a month and spreading lies.

If he doesn't fine, I will vote for anybody but obummer, but people like you need to step back from the propaganda wagon and quit making stuff up just to try to influence people.

All you are doing is telling people you don't care about honesty or integrity as long as you can try to force you opinion on others.

"look at it in a certain point of view"?

really?

What obamabot rag did that come from?

Won Iowa? BY Steam Rolling the delegate selection process is winning Iowa. If i am not mistaken Rick Santorium Won Iowa after a Recount. Intergrity is winning delegates by the choice of the people not by storming a delegate process and exploiting a rule by a group of people and not representing the populace who voted. Do i force Ron Paul on people as you have and some others no i have not done that with Mitt Romney. I post what i read and my opinion from a certain point of view. You can roast me daily if you wish and negative me as well. But the story still stands and you don't comment on the way the delegates are being obtain oh now that is not positive news in some persons eyes. So basically you are saying that those who are planning to vote for him regardless if he is not the nominee is making a mistake? Well from your point of view you support Ron Paul but will vote for the nominee correct your words

If he doesn't fine, I will vote for anybody but obummer, but people like you need to step back from the propaganda wagon and quit making stuff up just to try to influence people.

I don't make up stuff, i usually provide a link. So if Romney is the nominee you will vote for him? Thank you for your comment and have nice evening.

[ayrnay22]

Ron Paul would be my first choice but if romney had any sense if he gets the nomination he would oust Obama in a second with Paul as his running mate that's just good strategy can't be any worse than Obama and biden and for all u that don't care for romney he was governor of a democratic state and while in office I had more overtime work in union construction then any other governor and if u do some research most republican governors in mass served the state a lot better than an independent or democrat

[TLHUBER]

I live in Indiana and I'm getting ready to head to the voting booth in full support of Ron Paul and the delegates that support Ron Paul..... I'm with Mongo it aint over till it's over.....

Yes, I love me some Ron Paul supporters.

[TPSprayduster]

So if Romney (Ponzi scheme criminal, supporter of the Patriot Act, NDAA, more wars, Federal Reserve ect..) is the Popular vote,

what does that tell you about the mentality of those Americans? I feel sorry for you and them, as your families will suffer beyond

your wildest imagination in the coming few years. (I still think he will be ousted and Jeb will replace him...rumor)

As for Soetoro.....

And that is being nice with absolute facts.....

Obama isn't to blame for those figures, they are just part of the plan that is going full steam ahead from those who really run America.

Bottom line is Virginia and the Bilderbergs, they will choose their puppet and finish what the started a century ago.

If RP does not make it in...you will see riots that will dwarf Egypt, UK, ect...and the end of the US as you know it.

Maybe you Romney people like welfare and no freedom and the Police State as well as paying Bankers all your tax money.

Not bashing you TP....just forwarding my sympathy for your kids future, there is a reason RP has said the same things for over 30 years,

and almost everything he predicted has happened, because he knows who's in the game and what their plan is. He is awake.

So you are saying that all of those who voted for Romney doesn't have a clue, no sir i don't forsee any riots or any of the sort. Is there a reason why you are mixing in the Anti Obama/George SOROS when we are talking about the GOP. Sir, you post is a bash as usual don't try and paint a picture for the future. My kids are doing just fine, no thanks to you. They work hard and do quite well. My kids are not part of this conversation and i ask you respectfully not to include them. Thanks

[40oz]

for all u that don't care for romney he was governor of a democratic state and while in office I had more overtime work in union construction then any other governor

Whatever you do, don't give your boss any credit.

[Lutie]

This Ron Paul conversation is getting sooooooooo boring! JMO

[Mongo]

It is similar to telling a WWE fan that it is all scripted.

You.....you mean it's not real(WWE)?

It is similar to telling a WWE fan that it is all scripted.

You.....you mean it's not real(WWE)?

[cris]

Yes I am saying that, it is true and you have backed up that fact.

You don't see any riots coming? Tell your government that, because they sure do.

As for the rest of your post....what?

TP, tell us why you support the foreign bankers controlling YOUR money, why you support the Patriot Act, the NDAA, and why you do not support the Constitution. Thanks, I await your reply as it is a fair question.

You act as if nothing is happening regarding these issues.

Consevatives will hold the House and likely the Senate in Nov.

It seems unlikely that Ron will get the nomination, but, we may see

the end of the Patriot Act & NDAA soon

Michele Bachmann, Rand Paul, and 8 others shaking up the new Congress

The moves point to a House Republican leadership still struggling to come to grips with its own rank and file – and the influence of the tea party is a part of that, say experts.

"Anybody who listened to tea party people around the country has no excuse for being surprised that tea party Republicans voted against" the Patriot Act, says Charles Franklin, a political scientist at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. "How it will now play out is a little bit unclear, but the budget, the debt extension, the South Korean trade agreement might be other issues, and also where these kinds of liberty issues come up where liberty-oriented conservatives don't see it as a political peg but they really do oppose government intrusion into private lives."

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0209/A-tea-party-message-in-Patriot-Act-defeat-We-re-about-more-than-taxes

Its my opinion that Congress acting on these issues is far more important.

BTW, whats Rons economic plan?......I havent seen anything other than cutting

a Trillion in spending.....While this is a good idea IMO, what about job growth?

And reducing regulations & taxes?

BTW....7 term Luger.....Rino of Indiana lost to the Tea party candidate yesterday

The Demo's are pretty upset about this HeHe

Edited May 9, 2012 by cris

[TPSprayduster]

Yes I am saying that, it is true and you have backed up that fact.

You don't see any riots coming? Tell your government that, because they sure do.

As for the rest of your post....what?

TP, tell us why you support the foreign bankers controlling YOUR money, why you support the Patriot Act, the NDAA, and why you do not support the Constitution. Thanks, I await your reply as it is a fair question.

Why do i support the Patriot act well something happen on 9-11 is why i support the patroit act. NDAA well hell, it all got cut up due to someone saying they could jail anyone but when it came down to it is this if choose to be a terroist well you reap what you sow even if you are a american citizen and if got hellfired in the ear serves you right. The constitution gives you the right to burn the american flag, say what you what you feel and took away rights when it was first written. That is why we have amendments. I am sure this goes against the grain LD. But that is my opinion. You can spin it anyway you choose. Thanks

Edited May 9, 2012 by TPSprayduster