United States of Nazi America spreads fascist democracy in Iraq

[yota691]

United States of Nazi America spreads fascist democracy in Iraq

20.04.2012

Another evidence to prove the "triumph of democracy" in Iraq made numerous headlines in the world yesterday, April 19. The videos and photos clearly showed how the citizens of the world's most democratic nation, "the empire of kindness," spread their democracy in Iraq. A Pravda.Ru observer tried to see if there was any difference between US soldiers and fascists of Nazi Germany from 1941-1945.

It is an open secret that the USA's main achievements in Iraq include the toppling of the totalitarian regime, the liberation of the country from Saddam Hussein's dictatorship and the establishment of true democracy. That was one of the basic messages to the world from the 43rd President of the United States George Bush. The 44th one, Barack Obama, continued the shameless bravado of his predecessor, albeit Obama used a different tone in his statements that he made at Fort Bragg in North Carolina.

Obama made those statements in connection with the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. The head of the White House stated that even though Iraq was far from being a perfect place, but the US troops were leaving the country with their "heads held high."

"It has many challenges ahead. But we are leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people," the 44th President said.

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The small nuances, like the never-found weapons of mass destruction and the civil war that has been eating the whole country alive non-stop for years, the unexampled surge of terrorism, the ethnic massacres and many other "little things of no importance" - US politicians prefer not to notice all that.

However, no one has ever canceled the regulations of the UN Charter and the resolution of the UN General Assembly that define the notion of aggression against sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another state. Needless to say that no one in the States has been jailed for it.

Let's get back to Iraqi democracy. It appears that the democracy in Iraq ends beyond the borders of Baghdad, where it turns into absolute anarchy. Here is how democracy looks in the center of the Iraqi capital. A Humvee packed with Blackwater hirelings is rushing across the streets of Baghdad ignoring all traffic rules possible. The Humvee runs into other small cars and then crashes into the side of a car driven by an Iraqi national at a crossing.

Another video shows another Humvee driving through the streets of Baghdad. The US soldiers in the vehicle simply fire their guns at other cars and trucks that stand in their way.

US soldiers have made many of such videos to keep them for memory of their "democratic" service in the war-torn country. When home, they will be delighted to show those videos to their pals and tell them how exciting it was to travel across the wild country and shoot those demented Iraqis just for fun.

One may recall pictures of Nazi soldiers pointing their guns at women and children during the executions of civil population. Nazi soldiers would take those pictures and then keep them in their wallets for memory. Nowadays, they make videos instead of pictures, but the point of this act remains the same.

The above-mentioned videos were exposed by Harper's Magazine. The events depicted in the videos took place in 2006. One may assume that there are too many of such other videos and photographs in the United States.

Numerous newspapers and magazines started writing about another scandal brewing in the United States. The key word here is "another." America has become famous for the crimes, which its servicemen committed against civilians. They slaughtered people and simply got fired for that.

Nazi soldiers committed incredible atrocities in the USSR because the Fuhrer ordered to release German soldiers from responsibility for their crimes committed on the Soviet land.

Prosecution of offenses against civilians by members of the Wehrmacht was decreed to be "not required" unless necessary for the maintenance of discipline.

The order specified:

- "The partisans are to be ruthlessly eliminated in battle or during attempts to escape," and all attacks by the civilian population against Wehrmacht soldiers are to be "suppressed by the army on the spot by using extreme measures, till [the] annihilation of the attackers;

- Every officer in the German occupation in the East of the future will be entitled to perform execution(s) without trial, without any formalities, on any person suspected of having a hostile attitude towards the Germans", (the same applied to prisoners of war);

- "If you have not managed to identify and punish the perpetrators of anti-German acts, you are allowed to apply the principle of collective responsibility. 'Collective measures' against residents of the area where the attack occurred can then be applied after approval by the battalion commander or higher level of command";

- German soldiers who commit crimes against humanity, the USSR and prisoners of war are to be exempted from criminal responsibility, even if they commit acts punishable according to German law.

Doesn't it seem that one may find a similar order in the archives of the Pentagon? http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/crimes/20-04-2012/121148-usa_fascist_democracy-0/

[Mongo]

[FuzzyUzzy]

Not entirely related to the topic.

On a more historical note, what about the Russians? The Japanese? Russians committed way more atrocities over a longer span of time (a possible 60 mil just from Stalin alone, and that wasn't a typo), the Japanese had their own holocaust of Chinese civilians (2.5+ million, .65 million in a 3 month span)

I'm not saying the Nazis are good guys, far from it. but why the exclusion of (i guess the word I'm looking for is hate?) and negative historical comparisons of Russia and Japan?

Any thoughts from other board members?

[TQueezy]

It always comes down to comparing the wang sizes of tyrannical, fascist, and just plain villainous leaders of the past when pointing fingers at who is to blame for the civil unrest and terrorist activities. Listen... I'm not saying anyone is wrong in criticizing political figures for their disregard of atrocities in the past, but the main point is to try to evolve and move past that kind of stuff.

Iraq is a land of tribal in-fighting and primitive culture, customs, and societal progression. Look how long it took China, one of the oldest civilizations, to even reach a point of communistic tyranny, and while the United States of America supposedly is a land of freedom, we still have oppressive government and verging-on-military-state daily occurrences.

I say that humanity needs a huge and massive anarchistic event to unfold to show us all exactly how ridiculous we are being, hording money, oil, letting elite individuals keep all the wealth and push everyone else down to poverty, disease, famine, killing, torture, endless atrocities...

When the dust settles, maybe the few good apples left would be able to create something nice out of the planet and work towards bettering humanity for EVERYONE, not just white Americans, Europeans, and rich middle eastern and gangster families in all the other countries.

Neg away, it's just my opinion, and I welcome someone to tell me what I'm proposing wouldn't be a welcome refresh on existence.

[zigmeister]

This is an opinion piece by someone who apparently likens the US to Nazi Germany. As far as comparison goes as to Japan or Russia, if they had gone in Iraq as we did this person would be comparing their historical data as well.

I am not surprised this person is angry and dislikes the US, we know many Iraqi's feel the same as this person. Perhaps if the country was further along in infrastructure, and so forth this person might have a different view point.

I would not compare us to Nazi Germany, but if there were some of these atrocities were committed on the Iraqi people by some of the soldiers, I would think it was but a few. And we all know thats all it takes for someone who probably did not like us in the first place, to point the finger at the US with these harsh statements.

America has been accused of arrogance and being above other countries, so I imagine this article might have a reading audience. Oh well.

[umbertino]

Wars take out the absoute worst in Chiefs ( who take the decisions using people as pawns) and Soldiers... Most of the time.....All over the World... And Civilians ALWAYS pay the price...

Of course that's bad and should be stopped... Bu we know this is Utopia.

Edited April 22, 2012 by umbertino

[uncirculd]

This is an opinion piece by someone who apparently likens the US to Nazi Germany. As far as comparison goes as to Japan or Russia, if they had gone in Iraq as we did this person would be comparing their historical data as well.

I am not surprised this person is angry and dislikes the US, we know many Iraqi's feel the same as this person. Perhaps if the country was further along in infrastructure, and so forth this person might have a different view point.

I would not compare us to Nazi Germany, but if there were some of these atrocities were committed on the Iraqi people by some of the soldiers, I would think it was but a few. And we all know thats all it takes for someone who probably did not like us in the first place, to point the finger at the US with these harsh statements.

America has been accused of arrogance and being above other countries, so I imagine this article might have a reading audience. Oh well.

Thank you. It is an opinion. And it is a lie that our troops are going down the streets in Humvees just shooting at people. What a freak.

[smee2]

Nazi America? Really? Really???

This "opinion piece" is NOT news. It is an opinion. It should be posted in the right place, not on the news thread!

And as for posting something that refers to America as Nazi? That has got to be one of the most disrespectful things anyone could say about America. I am at the point of saying, If you don't like it in America. go somewhere else.

You have the opportunity to make changes every four years, do you not? And has the populace of America made the changes? Yes they have ... every four years they exercise their right to do so. If you don't like it that your side did not win, stop whining and do something constructive about it ... like working with the local candidate or your choice!

If you think that anything about America is Nazi, enough so that you would post and promote an opinion that calls America "Nazi", then you really should move your @ss out and find some place that suits you. America certainly doesn't, and you certainly are not going to make any changes for the better by sitting on that @ss and complaining.

This constant put down of America is making me ill. I am beginning to feel really sorry for the Americans who do love their country. Because they too have to be faced with this kind of muckraking B S.

And if you simply must complain, beef, whine, cry and B S, do it somewhere other than a forum that was created to help dinar investors keep track of what is going on with the investment. If you look, perhaps you can find some place that will welcome headline opinions that call America "Nazi".

Sickening!

smee2

[cath601]

Thank you Smee! Love it or LEAVE IT, please!

[shabbadude]

Pravda. The word translates as "Truth". Reality is they are unabashed liars.

My family is from, and some still are in the Ukraine.

I can say with complete assurance, "Pravda" has always been heavily slanted against the US.

This is an amateurish hit piece that has at best a micro fraction of fact and the rest has speculation for its foundation. Very typical of the tone that "Pravda" is known for. I call Bravo Sierra!

[ayrnay22]

Just remember enlisted servicemen and woman prior to the invasion of Iraq and during were following orders my cousin and his convoy were attacked entering a civilian zone the supply trucks that they were attached to carried popcorn machines and other entertainment items for Iraqi citizens the same citizens mostly teenage boys that helped kill most of my cousins unit and helped with ied placements that overturned my cousins humvee and left him pinned down with broken leg puntured ear drum to watch his brothers die and u refrence him as being no better than a Nazi shame on you

[divemaster5734]

Nazi America? Really? Really???

This "opinion piece" is NOT news. It is an opinion. It should be posted in the right place, not on the news thread!

And as for posting something that refers to America as Nazi? That has got to be one of the most disrespectful things anyone could say about America. I am at the point of saying, If you don't like it in America. go somewhere else.

You have the opportunity to make changes every four years, do you not? And has the populace of America made the changes? Yes they have ... every four years they exercise their right to do so. If you don't like it that your side did not win, stop whining and do something constructive about it ... like working with the local candidate or your choice!

If you think that anything about America is Nazi, enough so that you would post and promote an opinion that calls America "Nazi", then you really should move your @ss out and find some place that suits you. America certainly doesn't, and you certainly are not going to make any changes for the better by sitting on that @ss and complaining.

This constant put down of America is making me ill. I am beginning to feel really sorry for the Americans who do love their country. Because they too have to be faced with this kind of muckraking B S.

And if you simply must complain, beef, whine, cry and B S, do it somewhere other than a forum that was created to help dinar investors keep track of what is going on with the investment. If you look, perhaps you can find some place that will welcome headline opinions that call America "Nazi".

Sickening!

smee2

smee, I know you are a Lady, and for the most part a very objective thinker.

That is why I need to respectively point out a couple issues.

First, I am in no way attempting any type of personal attack on you. Please do not take it that way.

I realize you are Canadian. While similar laws to the USA, you guys are still just an English Colony.

To date, Canada has not had the fortitude, integrity, or backbone to tell the queen to kiss off.

Canadians are coddled, pampered, and brainwashed.

I come from WW2 immigrants.

My entire family, except for my grandparents were murdered, first by the commies, then the Nazis.

I grew up with first hand stories of the rape, torture, murder, and forced servitude thrust on my grand parents family.

Personally, I grew up near South Chicago, and learned very quickly the meaning of standing up for yourself.

You do not have the experience, not did you grow up as an American, so who the heck are YOU to simply sit on your butt and judge Americans based on what the corrupted media says?

I'm sorry smee, but I have let several comments go in difference to your background, but you are totally ignorant in relation to this topic.

If we Americans do not find some backbone we will indeed be destroyed by a bastardized fascist/socialist oppressive government that will only enslave us and destroy all that oppose.

You have some very good input, and as already stated, I do not want to offend, but then, I can't just sit back and let a comment like that pass.

You have no idea what oppression is.

You have no idea what prejudice is like, to be hated for just being alive, regardless of the person you are inside.

until you are forced to live in oppression, you are nothing but an armchair quarterback.

Yes, this is a dinar forum, but this is equally as important.

To use that smear just takes you to a lower level.

That is the same thing obummer people used when they didn't have anything to refute the obama lies being exposed.

I value all input here, especially the stuff i don't agree with.

it makes me think, and try even harder to understand a different point of view.

[tilak]

Thank you. It is an opinion. And it is a lie that our troops are going down the streets in Humvees just shooting at people. What a freak.

That is right...it is a lie that our soldiers are mowing down random Iraqi vehicles. If they were they would be put in prison. Truly an idiot wrote this.

[DinarThug]

Nazi America? Really? Really???

This "opinion piece" is NOT news. It is an opinion. It should be posted in the right place, not on the news thread!

And as for posting something that refers to America as Nazi? That has got to be one of the most disrespectful things anyone could say about America. I am at the point of saying, If you don't like it in America. go somewhere else.

You have the opportunity to make changes every four years, do you not? And has the populace of America made the changes? Yes they have ... every four years they exercise their right to do so. If you don't like it that your side did not win, stop whining and do something constructive about it ... like working with the local candidate or your choice!

If you think that anything about America is Nazi, enough so that you would post and promote an opinion that calls America "Nazi", then you really should move your @ss out and find some place that suits you. America certainly doesn't, and you certainly are not going to make any changes for the better by sitting on that @ss and complaining.

This constant put down of America is making me ill. I am beginning to feel really sorry for the Americans who do love their country. Because they too have to be faced with this kind of muckraking B S.

And if you simply must complain, beef, whine, cry and B S, do it somewhere other than a forum that was created to help dinar investors keep track of what is going on with the investment. If you look, perhaps you can find some place that will welcome headline opinions that call America "Nazi".

Sickening!

smee2

Yo Snap ! That Was A Wicked Cool Rant From A Canadian Chick !

Somebody Hand Her A Hockey Stick !

Here's A Bit Of Trivia For Ya - Did U Know That Hitler Was A Vegetarian ?

How Come U Never Hear That From The People At Whole Foods ?

[leesburg]

That is right...it is a lie that our soldiers are mowing down random Iraqi vehicles. If they were they would be put in prison. Truly an idiot wrote this.

..they act like that was the policy to go mow down vehicles in iraq .. ya thats all they could get .. those iraqi vehicles were to fast for the americans ...

look if that was our goal in iraq there would be no vehicles left we would of took every one of them out.. some clowns say we were just shooting innocent people for nothing .. i ask if that was our objective .. how come so many lived through it .. were they good hiders ..? .. were they to fast for the americans to shoot ?.. thats all we could get ?..

we could of leveled the entire region in a busy afternoon .. but american soldiers gave their lives trying to protect the innocent iraqis .. end of story

[DetroitDinar]

Off topic kinda but I say this in the most serious tone. Times up its time to take back our Republic!!

[TheArtistFormallyKnownAs]

I 'm not a Yank so I'm staying out of this one guy's but

For the sake of the Free World Detroit I wish you would.

Yota getting Nags ? thats not something you see ever

Edited April 23, 2012 by TheArtistFormallyKnownAs

[DetroitDinar]

You really don't have to be a yank my family is from Iraq. I was born in Detroit Michigan tho so I rep the US and I'll die for the US if that's what is written in my book of life

Love your country and die for it if you have to is what I say. Remember freedom comes with a price.

[tyron]

Nazi America? Really? Really???

This "opinion piece" is NOT news. It is an opinion. It should be posted in the right place, not on the news thread!

And as for posting something that refers to America as Nazi? That has got to be one of the most disrespectful things anyone could say about America. I am at the point of saying, If you don't like it in America. go somewhere else.

You have the opportunity to make changes every four years, do you not? And has the populace of America made the changes? Yes they have ... every four years they exercise their right to do so. If you don't like it that your side did not win, stop whining and do something constructive about it ... like working with the local candidate or your choice!

If you think that anything about America is Nazi, enough so that you would post and promote an opinion that calls America "Nazi", then you really should move your @ss out and find some place that suits you. America certainly doesn't, and you certainly are not going to make any changes for the better by sitting on that @ss and complaining.

This constant put down of America is making me ill. I am beginning to feel really sorry for the Americans who do love their country. Because they too have to be faced with this kind of muckraking B S.

And if you simply must complain, beef, whine, cry and B S, do it somewhere other than a forum that was created to help dinar investors keep track of what is going on with the investment. If you look, perhaps you can find some place that will welcome headline opinions that call America "Nazi".

Sickening!

smee2

Smee, Smee, Smee... hundreds of thousands of totally innocent people have been murdered, a huge number women and children, and you are most concerned about the intolerable offence caused to America by the use of the word 'Nazi'?

[fuzzy77]

Why is this bilge even in this section...it should go where all the Okie articles go!

Why is everybody beating up Smee ?? She is pointing out the crap that the scum author of the article is spewing from his rear end.

[carlos in san diego]

The article has merit in the sense that it has created an active discussion on the topic, regardless of what side you take on the comparison made by the author. I feel it proves on thing, and that is that the two different scenarios represent governments "gone wild"

Both wars mentioned were wars of extreme agression, the war in Europe in WWII and Iraq. Neither were, in the least bit defensive by any measure, but wars of conquest. In both cases the people had been brainwashed by the political leaders and the controlled media to achive their ultimate ends.

Wars of agression need to end once and for all!

Carlos

[tyron]

Why is this bilge even in this section...it should go where all the Okie articles go!

Why is everybody beating up Smee ?? She is pointing out the crap that the scum author of the article is spewing from his rear end.

'Bilge"? Perhaps a short video can be worth a thousand words - this is what the American government in all its imperialistic hubris has unleashed upon the poor Iraqis! What if instead of having the good fortune of being born an American you had been born an Iraqi.. hmmm?

[Black Swan]

Only a matter of time before these type of organizations try to take out Mecca. Target rich environment. Then let's see what happens when we have 1 B of them mad at us.