Popular Post RSL Posted March 27, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 3-27-2012 Bingobongo (via Duckyboy): There are NO NEW TREASURY NOTES COMING!!! The Federal Reserve has a 99 year contract with the USA to perform as it's central bank which is up for renewal this year, that is a fact. The rumors of all dollars disappearing, debt being forgiven, mortgages being deleted are all CRAP! There will not be a "global reset" post-RV. Granted, many countries will have certain economic infusions and benefits, but things will not drastically change like the rumors out there say they will. There is/are no "prosperity programs" out there. If you follow this rabbit hole of information, you find that the same people peddling this crap believe that there is an elite master race of aliens who are disguised as humans and they are going to fix everything. This rabbit hole goes back 30 years, and just keeps growing and adding to itself, but fraud stacked up on top fraud is still it's basic element; fraud. There are no algorithm's working their way through the RV process. Notice how that Johnnywg crap was the hot topic and suddenly disappeared after weeks of getting people to buy into it? Yeah, that's because it was all lies. The RV will be activated after 1 meeting, 1 phone conference call, and then 1 push of a button, that's it plain and simple. There are no rates getting ready to "drop in". The RV is not a game of "Connect 4" where you drop in your little black or red RV chip, connect 4, and then the banks screens come alive with a new rate. There is no tube connecting 2 computers together and the RV rate is going to slide down from one to another. There is no number hovering around in cyberspace waiting to fall into planetary alignment and land on the desk of a FOREX manager. There will be no $12, $18, $22, $24 rate! This particular issue is what caused me to write this whole email. I read some crap online this weekend about a $22-24 rate and I wanted to SLAP somebody. I hope and pray none of you are dumb enough to believe this stuff. Lets remember the FACTS; 1) Shabbibi stated a couple years ago that the intrinsic value of their currency could be as high as $8-12 due to their oil reserves but will not be at that level. 2) The MOST credible documented information I have seen EVER in this whole investment, was the IMF website that stated very clearly that Iraq was enabled to "restore their currency to pre-crisis levels (pre-saddam) and to increase that by as much as 20% due to inflationary factors". IF THE IMF LIMITS YOU TO 20% INCREASE OF $3.22, THEN THATS ALL YOU GET, PERIOD. FOREX does not stop/start the RV.FOREX is a facilitator for exchange, not a market-maker in-and-of itself. There is no "FOREX Master" who sits behind a desk with a "fresh hot live rate" blinking on his screen awaiting a call from Shabbibi so he can press a button. It doesn't work like that. FOREX sits there waiting to be fed a rate/info FROM THE CBI, period. This is NOT a "moving target". The only reason these morons proclaim there is a moving target, is because they tell you their best GUESS, it NEVER happens like they say it will, then they proclaim the target has moved... What if you received an email every single day that said "the RV will happen in 2 days"... would you believe it after a week, a month, 6 months, a year? Banks will not have the RV rates on their "front screens" prior to the official RV. The RV rate will originate with the CBI. That rate info will be "pushed" to all banks who are connected to the FOREX market. The RV rate is NOT (and never will be) "making it's way" through the system. This is not molasses running down a hill, ketchup coming out of a bottle or a game of dominoes where you flick one, and 10 minutes later the last one falls. Electronic information moves at such a high rate of speed it is barely noticeable. Traders have access to rates that adjust within fractions of a second, and so do the banks. Information is virtually instantaneous, the RV rate will post on CBI and milliseconds later will be live around the world. Neither Obama, China, Aliens or blue space monkeys in hats are stopping the RV. There will be no LOP. Plenty of articles out there now to dispel this stuff about lopping. If you still believe in a lop, sell your dinar back to dinar banker, delete all dinar links and chatrooms from your "favorites" and move on with your life. There will not be an RV in 195 countries. This is such stupid and idiotic rumor, I shouldn't even be addressing it. I am BEGGING you to quit believing this garbage. Save yourself time, energy, stress, etc. and use your brain. If it doesn't make sense, it's not because these people are smarter than you and you just can't grasp it, it is because it is a pack of lies that aren't supposed to make sense, its all sensationalism and ego with no logic, reason, or accountability. 43 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose 57 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Bingobongo (via Duckyboy): lol Where do we go from here? ( at least I didn't copy the whole dang post)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSL Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 There will be no LOP. Plenty of articles out there now to dispel this stuff about lopping. If you still believe in a lop, sell your dinar back to dinar banker, delete all dinar links and chatrooms from your "favorites" and move on with your life. Read more: I particularly liked this part!!! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eLemonator Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 well said! if my math is correct, and I understood what you said, IMF gave them the ok to RI at 3.22 and are allowed a max of 20% increase for inflation. that would mean the max rate they are allowed to RV at with IMF approval is 3.864...... is that correct? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarintheAZDesert Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 There sure have been a lot of posts from newbies as of late, but not your typical "I'm new to the Dinar" thing. They seem to be coming from people from other sites, possibly "Guru's" who, in my opinion, are attempting to infect the DV site with their mumbo-jumbo. This is just my observation, and my message will self destruct after the RV. GO RV... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I like the basic thinking here.....pretty much nailed the way the IMF and Forex works......still have issue with RI +20%. It would make sense if IMF was implying "if all these were equal" meaning they would accept RI +20% if same number of dinar in circulation at time of RI as when it was $3.22. But by all documented sources, it is simply not the case.....if there are trillions in circulation today, the math does not add up. When dinar was valued at $3.22 there was only about 30 billion in circulation......there are trillions of dinar out there today (if you can believe the CBI website or any number of other articles recently put out by Shabs or Saleh) To Rv at over $3 is an impossibility....sorry, but run the numbers. The math does not lie JMHO 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebow Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 @RSL Awwwww somebody sounds like they need a little sleep. No need for your negativity at all. Who made you the total authority and complete knowledge base for the entire globe, know everything do you ? 3 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in4thelonghaul Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I like this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 @RSL Awwwww somebody sounds like they need a little sleep. No need for your negativity at all. Who made you the total authority and complete knowledge base for the entire globe, know everything do you ? TimS likes to pi$$ on every parade he can. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrappyone Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I think it is a logical way to break it down so all can understand. Makes more sense that a lot of other things I have read. Thanks for the post. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Machine Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I like the basic thinking here.....pretty much nailed the way the IMF and Forex works......still have issue with RI +20%. It would make sense if IMF was implying "if all these were equal" meaning they would accept RI +20% if same number of dinar in circulation at time of RI as when it was $3.22. But by all documented sources, it is simply not the case.....if there are trillions in circulation today, the math does not add up. When dinar was valued at $3.22 there was only about 30 billion in circulation......there are trillions of dinar out there today (if you can believe the CBI website or any number of other articles recently put out by Shabs or Saleh) To Rv at over $3 is an impossibility....sorry, but run the numbers. The math does not lie JMHO Exactly what I was gonna say tim .... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcsh49890 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I like what I read, very well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one2one Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 great post : makes a lot more sense than the common ' cash-in tommorrow for 12 bucks ' nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C5A Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 FINALLY a logical article that makes sense. Thanks for posting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
only 1-25k dinar Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Good Post, Thanks RSL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpsmit Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 There sure have been a lot of posts from newbies as of late, but not your typical "I'm new to the Dinar" thing. They seem to be coming from people from other sites, possibly "Guru's" who, in my opinion, are attempting to infect the DV site with their mumbo-jumbo. This is just my observation, and my message will self destruct after the RV.GO RV... Are you saying RSL = Okie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajunrescuemedic Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Good Post !!! I love it when things aren't sugar coated. Thanks so much. GO RV !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeedRv Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 I likey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webup Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Too bad some of the best minds on here are not allowed to post in this section...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronus Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 www.kitcomm.com... Post #54 says the following: To put this discussion to rest. The original Federal Reserve Act of 1913 did indeed provide for expiration of the corporate "power" of the twelve Federal Reserve Banks to exist in 20 years from the banks' organization (not the adoption of the Act). Sec. 4 ... the said Federal reserve bank shall become a body corporate and as such ... shall have power: ... Second. To have succession for a period of twenty years from its organization unless it is sooner dissolved by an Act of Congress, or unless its franchise becomes forfeited by some violation of law. Federal Reserve Act of 1913 (P.L. 63-43, 38 STAT. 251, 12 USC 221). However, this 20-year corporate life was changed to perpetual in 1927 by Act of Feb. 25, 1927 (44 Stat. 1234) as follows: Second. To have succession after February 25, 1927, until dissolved by Act of Congress or until forfeiture of franchise for violation of law. This is codified in the United States Code, 12 U.S.C. § 341. See www.law.cornell.edu... This is where it stands today. Each of the U.S. Federal Reserve Banks can only be dissolved by an act of Congress or "forfeiture of franchise for violation of law." So it looks like the FED got a 20 year charter on 23 dec. 1913 and on 25 feb. 1927, this was changed to perpetual.. The URL of Cornell looks very original. So the charter is perpetual, or there must be some other change after 1927. Only an act of Congress can end the FED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJohn Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Well said BUT blue space monkeys in hats ARE REAL and should not be messed with... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eLemonator Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 @RSL Awwwww somebody sounds like they need a little sleep. No need for your negativity at all. Who made you the total authority and complete knowledge base for the entire globe, know everything do you ? who are you for jumping on them for this post! I don't see it as pumping or Anti-pumping! People we all need to be respectful of one another! this tension and confrontation is not needed nor will it be tolerated! please don't ruin the forums for others! I think it was a great post and very down to earth! I like the basic thinking here.....pretty much nailed the way the IMF and Forex works......still have issue with RI +20%. It would make sense if IMF was implying "if all these were equal" meaning they would accept RI +20% if same number of dinar in circulation at time of RI as when it was $3.22. But by all documented sources, it is simply not the case.....if there are trillions in circulation today, the math does not add up. When dinar was valued at $3.22 there was only about 30 billion in circulation......there are trillions of dinar out there today (if you can believe the CBI website or any number of other articles recently put out by Shabs or Saleh) To Rv at over $3 is an impossibility....sorry, but run the numbers. The math does not lie JMHO they never claimed it would go to 3.22, simply said anything higher then 3.22 + 20% for inflation was not going to happen, IMF said 3.22 + 20% was a max! again great post! GO RV/RI 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgoldengirl Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 TimS likes to pi$$ on every parade he can. That's because every party needs a pooper! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 who are you for jumping on them for this post! I don't see it as pumping or Anti-pumping! People we all need to be respectful of one another! this tension and confrontation is not needed nor will it be tolerated! please don't ruin the forums for others! I think it was a great post and very down to earth! they never claimed it would go to 3.22, simply said anything higher then 3.22 + 20% for inflation was not going to happen, IMF said 3.22 + 20% was a max! again great post! GO RV/RI I agree that the IMF never said it would RI at $3.22 +20%....but in my opinion the poster is implying that the $3.22+ number is the more accurate number as opposed to the other $12+ and such predictions...and again, in my opinion, that is still too high for the reason I stated. Sorry if I was misunderstood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Machine Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 who are you for jumping on them for this post! I don't see it as pumping or Anti-pumping! People we all need to be respectful of one another! this tension and confrontation is not needed nor will it be tolerated! please don't ruin the forums for others! Yeah I hear you .... aparently the OP has another account and goes by Steeldawg as well .... he posted this same thing under his other user name at the same time as this one ...... it has since been deleted. Let's just say I wasn't very nice to him, So RSL / Steeldawg which ever user name your going by please accept my apology I've had a pretty rough day marking university papers checking for plagiarism. Think it's time I was off to bed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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