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3 hours ago, M.I.B. said:

I have been gifted with a dream about some kind of energy related process that will end the existence of firearms. 

 

 

Keep it to your self please. 

I like my firearms and the God given right to protect myself and mine. 

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7 hours ago, M.I.B. said:

I have been gifted with a dream about some kind of energy related process that will end the existence of firearms. 

 

It will be called the Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ. :twothumbs:

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1 hour ago, cranman said:

Energy related process! Yes!!!! No more guns!!!! We have frickin Laser Beams! Lol

 

That was my earthman speaking. :lol: Phasers on stun!

 

 

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nstoolman1 and others,

 

It will be a non-destructive and non-lethal process.

Those of you that choose to keep your guns is your concern, but make no mistake.. technological progress will continue.

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On 12/15/2018 at 10:13 PM, coorslite21 said:

So Starr....are you a poker player?........I'll see your hand gun or even AR.......and raise you a rail gun........your turn....

 

 

 

Starr

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So, Not really a Dream Gun or anything I had on my Must Have, Should Have or even might Consider List but I traded something I haven't had out of the safe for some 15 years.

 

S&W Performance Center 629 .44 Mag with 40-50 round down the barrel.

 

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Now I suppose I could wander around muttering 'Get Off My Grass" , Go Ahead Punk, Make my Day or something like "I just can't Remember....Did I Shoot 5 or 6 Rounds.

 

Sure as heck wish it were a Pre Lock and I would have liked a 4 inch 645 Mtn. Gun....But if you gotta own a hand cannon it might as well be one of the best from the S&W Perf. Center.

 

Karsten

 

 

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Tac-50: A .50 Caliber Record-Breaking Rifle Navy SEALs and Snipers Love

 


November 7, 2019  Topic: Security  Blog Brand: The Buzz  Tags: Navy SEALNavy SealsMilitaryTechnologyCanadaTac-50


In a  2017 mission against ISIS targets, a JTF2 sniper recorded the world’s longest sniper kill at a staggering 3,871 yards or 2.19 miles. This is the rifle that made it happen. 

 

by Mark Episkopos


Anti-materiel rifles (AMR) have long been thought to have little practical use, except against a dwindling niche of light vehicles vulnerable to .50 BMG rounds. Then came the McMillan Tac-50, a revolutionary military firearm that combines the reach and stopping power of an AMR with the accuracy of a typical military-grade sniper rifle.

 

The AMR was conceived as an anti-tank weapon during World War I. Seeking a weapon that could penetrate the reinforced hull of the British Mark IV tank, the German Empire produced the first AMR rifle: the 1918 Mauser T-Gewehr. The AMR platform went on to see its heyday during the Second World War, as the British Boys Anti-Tank Rifle and Soviet Degtyarev PTRD-41 proved effective against Nazi Germany’s Panzer I,II, and III tanks. But over the next several decades, advancements in main battle tank (MBT) defenses would rapidly outpace the penetrating power of the .50 round. By the end of the Cold War, AMR’s were only relevant against light armor and, in a pinch, certain types of infrastructure.

 

In 1996, firearms manufacturer McMillan sought to breathe new life into an AMR platform that was increasingly verging on obsolescence. Released seven years after the powerful but relatively inaccurate M107, the Tac-50 was designed as an AMR that could double as a long-range sniper rifle.

 

Deceptively light for its class at 26 pounds, the Tac-50 is a .50 caliber rotating bolt-action rifle boasting a 29-inch, high-quality Lilja barrel and McMillan’s signature fiber-glass stock. In keeping with similar AMR’s, the Tac-50 comes without any factory-installed sights and is compatible with a wide range of telescopic mounts. An absolute requirement at this distance of shooting, the Tac-50 comes with a proprietary muzzle brake to increase accuracy and mitigate the immense recoil generated by the .50 caliber.

 

The Tac-50 impressed militaries around the world with its startling accuracy, leading to its adoption by the U.S Navy SEALs under the “MK 15” designation, branches of the French Navy, Turkey, Israel and others. There is little question, however, that the Canadian special forces group JTF2 (Joint Task Force 2) remains by far the most prolific Tac-50 operator. In a  2017 mission against ISIS targets, a JTF2 sniper recorded the world’s longest sniper kill at a staggering 3,871 yards or 2.19 miles. It bears noting that the Canadian armed forces currently occupy three of the five longest recorded sniper kills in the world, all performed with the Tac-50.

 

Seeking to build on this breakaway success, McMillan released two Tac-50 successors in 2012: the Tac-50 A1, and Tac-50 A1-R2. The A1 boasts a host of practical design improvements, including a longer take-down fiberglass stock, a lighter-but-sturdier bipod, redesigned buttstock, and self-locking magazine latch. The A1-R2 features all the design improvements of the A1, along with a proprietary hydraulic recoil mitigation system that McMillan claims will reduce peak recoil by 90 percent.


Rated at a guaranteed half-MOA (minute of angle) with the proper ammunition, the Tac-50 is one of the few AMR’s accurate enough to double as a long-distance sniper rifle. By offering the operator an unprecedented degree of target versatility between infrastructure, light armour, and high-value personnel, the Tac-50 gave the AMR platform a newfound lease on life. Firearms manufacturers have since attempted to further develop this concept, including McMillan itself with its TAC-416 chambered in .416 Barrett, but the Tac-50 remains one of the best and only rifles of its kind.

 

Mark Episkopos is a frequent contributor to The National Interest and serves as research assistant at the Center for the National Interest. Mark is also a PhD student in History at American University.


 

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On 10/15/2019 at 8:12 PM, Karsten said:

So, Not really a Dream Gun or anything I had on my Must Have, Should Have or even might Consider List but I traded something I haven't had out of the safe for some 15 years.

 

S&W Performance Center 629 .44 Mag with 40-50 round down the barrel.

 

R8EFhw.jpg

 

Now I suppose I could wander around muttering 'Get Off My Grass" , Go Ahead Punk, Make my Day or something like "I just can't Remember....Did I Shoot 5 or 6 Rounds.

 

Sure as heck wish it were a Pre Lock and I would have liked a 4 inch 645 Mtn. Gun....But if you gotta own a hand cannon it might as well be one of the best from the S&W Perf. Center.

 

Karsten

 

 

Nice!!!👍🇺🇸

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Biden said the best household defence is a shotgun, is the only thing I agree with him

I should be recieving this firearm in 2 days

Dawn of the Red: Molot Vepr 12 Shotgun Review

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 Robert Sadowski
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December 19, 2016
 
molot vepr 12 -f The Molot Vepr 12 is a rugged beast of an autoloader that's ready for almost any task. Photo by Jeff Jones.

The Molot Vepr 12 shotgun is a rugged beast that's ready for almost any task it might come across.

The Vepr 12 manufactured at the Molot Oruzhie factory in Russia is a semi-automatic, box-fed magazine, 12-gauge shotgun that will rip, snort and tear through targets like a beast. There is nothing subtle about the Vepr 12. It was designed for self-defense, hunting, 3-Gun competitions, and any situation where you need to shoot and reload a 12-gauge shotgun fast. In this sense the Vepr speaks in volumes.

As of February of 2016 the FIME Group in Las Vegas has a long-term, exclusive agreement with Molot. But not so fast. Russian-imported semi-automatic shotguns in the U.S. are as rare as Cuban-made cigars. “FIME imports the Vepr 12 shotguns, then to pass 922r compliance,” said Harry Pakhanyan of the FIME Group, “some Russian components are replaced with U.S. parts to make it compliant.” That is why you can get a fully functional folding stock in lieu of a welded open, fixed stock like in the past. The Vepr shotgun is based on the RPK weapon design, which is a lightweight machine gun with similar characters as the AK-47. Basically, the RPK and Vepr are AKs on steroids with beefed up trunnion blocks and receivers. “The Vepr is one of the toughest and most rigid systems in use with militaries around the world, and the Vepr 12 for the U.S. commercial market is no different,” adds Pakhanyan.

molot vepr 12 -4 The Vepr 12 shares a similar safety as the AK. Photo by Jeff Jones

In a country where tube-fed semi-automatic shotguns are the norm, the Vepr 12 brings a new shotgun experience that translates into faster reloads, fast shooting, and compact firepower. The Vepr is equipped with a polymer box magazine about the size of an old VHS videotape. It is easy to load, durable—yes, I dropped the loaded magazine on cement with no issues—and unlike an AK, there is no need to rock-and-lock the magazine home. Just insert it like an AR magazine. An AK paddle-type magazine release dumps the empty magazine. The magazine well on the Vepr is polymer, so the polymer-to-polymer contact between the magazine and magwell is slick.

molot vepr 12 -7 The Vepr 12 uses a very nice folding stock. Photo by Jeff Jones.

One of the more outstanding features on the Vepr is the left-side folding tubular buttstock. It locks in place extended and when folded is rock-solid. No wiggle. No rattle. A small textured button on the side of the receiver allows a user to fold the stock and another small textured button on the rear of the receiver allows you to extend the stock. A small padded cheek piece can be adjusted for left- or right-handed shooters and the rubber recoil pad make this beast a please to shoot. A second is the spring-hinged top cover with an integrated Picatinny rail, which allows a user to mount a red dot optic. That excited the turkey hunter in me. A third feature, and one that separates the Vepr from an AK-47, is the bolt-hold-open feature which can be engaged via a manual button forward of the trigger guard or on the last round fired. A small button on the right side and rear of the trigger sends the bolt forward.

The finish on the Vepr is typical Natasha and Boris style: imported military-grade matte black that is all business and well executed. The handguard is a ribbed polymer that protects the user from heat from extensive shooting and offers a sure grip shooting bare handed or gloved. The pistol grip is ribbed rubber so any transmitted recoil through it is nil, and it allows a user to really grip the Vepr in rapid fire. Don’t get me wrong, stoke this beast with slugs and 3-inch turkey loads and you will feel the jolt; not so much pain, but pleasure. I ran through a few boxes of slugs just because I liked the way it shot and grouped and was not beaten down by excessive recoil. The Vepr 12 shotgun is a hefty piece of machinery. Weighing 9.5 pounds does help reduce felt recoil from high-velocity 12-gauge loads. When shouldering the Vepr, the ergonomics also help reduce recoil.

 
molot-vepr-12-2 The Vepr 12 has AK-style sights; however, it also has a top rail if you want to mount a red dot or similar optic. Photo by Jeff Jones.

The 19-inch barrel is threaded and bored cylinder. Sights consist of an elevation-adjustable front sight and windage-adjustable rear. The trigger pull measured 9.1 pounds, but I was still able to group slugs so at least two out of three holes touched at 25 yards. The Vepr is also equipped with an ambidextrous safety lever, which works similar to an AK-47 safety selector.

I amassed a mixed lot of 2-3/4-inch 12-gauge ammo from tactical buckshot and slugs to light game and turkey loads. I also tried a few very light 12-gauge reloads just to see if the action would cycle and it didn’t, which was not a surprise since these types of loads choke most gas-operated semi-autos. The Vepr ran effortlessly and perfectly with all factory ammo I fed it, even Remington 1-ounce game loads with #6 shot. I used this load to shoot the Vepr from the hip with the stock folded at clay pigeons resting on a dirt berm at 25 yards. Clays smoked in the dirt. It was a lot of fun. Using tactical defense loads, the Vepr landed the payload center of mass, belching out empty shells through the massive ejection port. It chewed through everything.

molot-vepr-12-9 Shooting the Vepr 12. Author photo.

At 25 yards Hornady Defense 00-Buck gave me the tightest pattern at 7 inches, and the Winchester load was 11 inches. Those are fight-stopping patterns. The turkey hunter in me even tried Winchester High Velocity turkey loads. I wasn’t expecting much with the cylinder bore choke and received a 25-inch pattern at 25 yards with #5 shot. More than likely a dead turkey. I cut my teeth hunting whitetails shooting slugs through bird guns, so I am a bit immune to the recoil. Three-shot groups at 25 yards averaged 3.5 inches. I suspect with a red dot optic that group would noticeably shrink. The Vepr was pleasantly accurate with slugs. Meat in the freezer.

molot-vepr-12-5 Vepr 12 disassembly. Photo by Jeff Jones.

In operation, the Vepr feels a lot like an AK with the long stroke piston working the action. It comes up to your shoulder naturally and with the padded cheek piece gives you a nice cheek weld with tolerable recoil. It was fast on target with precise follow-ups. I would think a suitable muzzle brake would help reduce muzzle rise when shooting for speed. Magazine reloads were as easy as AR reloads, and because the bolt release is located near the trigger for a right-handed shooter, it was much faster to load than a traditional tube magazine shotgun. The bolt carrier operated smoothly.

Think Russian, think Molot Vepr 12, when pondering the need for a semi-automatic shotgun. This beast satisfies the shooter in all of us. For more information, visit fimegroup.com or call 702-215-3600.

 

https://gundigest.com/more/how-to/dawn-red-molot-vepr-12-shotgun-review

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After seeing this one, buying and shooting it, this is my new go to gun for all purpose.

Ruger 57. Ammo is still a bit high but I've managed to buy up about 3000rds. Excellent shooter.

 

 

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