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[Weapon X]

Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate.

They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”

Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document.

“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.

“I’d be more afraid it’d be fake if it was one in piece. It would be harder to check if it’s a good one if it’s a fake,” Tremblay said.

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[kennyc]

So, we are just suppose to accept this ONE experts opinion. Its real just

cause he says its real? Lets see another 1,000 come forward & prove its real

just sayin. Why should we accept his opinion?

[thegente]

Whether or not he's a US Citizen, he still is one helluva crap-shite president...

[Weapon X]

So, we are just suppose to accept this ONE experts opinion. Its real just

cause he says its real? Lets see another 1,000 come forward & prove its real

just sayin. Why should we accept his opinion?

According to birthers we are supposed to believe an unconfirmed self proclaimed expert, Pollard. And the funny thing is that this expert was on Faux, that right there suprised me.

how about we get the actual forensic specialist WND contracted but never posted the results. Now that i would like to know, why did they not post the expert report they paid for.

Edited March 10, 2012 by Weapon X

[djhemp]

I'verworked in graphics for over 16 years and I agree. It is what I first thought when I took apart the document myself. Mind you I am very anti-Obama so I'd love for it to be true. Most OCR scanning software would do what Alex Jones and other truthers have claimed for it to be a fake. It's not the best argument.

[sportfisher]

Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate.

They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”

Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document.

“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.

“I’d be more afraid it’d be fake if it was one in piece. It would be harder to check if it’s a good one if it’s a fake,” Tremblay said.

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:lol: what a joke..........not an expert. This is probably the guy that forged it. :lol:

[Weapon X]

:lol: what a joke..........not an expert. This is probably the guy that forged it. :lol:

its tenm times more reliable then Arpaios BS.

How about you look up Ivan Zatkovich of eComp Consultants. WND paid for an analysis and never posted it, I wonder why???

[DiveDeepSix]

:lol: what a joke..........not an expert. This is probably the guy that forged it. :lol:

Or the guy getting a back door handout to say it, Ooops wait my bad, we all know "O" doesn't do back door deals. So why didn't he just post it back in 2008 if he had nothing to hide?

[sportfisher]

Or the guy getting a back door handout to say it, Ooops wait my bad, we all know "O" doesn't do back door deals. So why didn't he just post it back in 2008 if he had nothing to hide?

yep, that is more likely

[desimo]

I would take the word of a well established sheriff who has had the certificate screen under scientific means used by law enforcement over some 'expert'. I have worked with 'experts'. An 'expert' is basically someone who has promoted themself over other people, uses bigger words, and can BS better than others. An 'expert' by the end of the day is truly no more than just another opinion.

In my field, I would be called an expert.

[Markinsa]

I'm not even an expert and just by looking at the PDF you can tell its not real. It looks like the background was inserted after this document was copied or scanned. Take a look at the top left of the BC, you'll see a black spot, where it looks like the BC was copied out of a book. If you put a book face down on the copier, there is a natural curvature of the page as it sits on the glass. So the copier/scanner picks that up, but if you look at the background, all the lines are horizontal. Something is really fishy.

Obama Birth Certificate Long Form PDF

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[sportfisher]

I'm not even an expert and just by looking at the PDF you can tell its not real. It looks like the background was inserted after this document was copied or scanned. Take a look at the top left of the BC, you'll see a black spot, where it looks like the BC was copied out of a book. If you put a book face down on the copier, there is a natural curvature of the page as it sits on the glass. So the copier/scanner picks that up, but if you look at the background, all the lines are horizontal. Something is really fishy.

Obama Birth Certificate Long Form PDF

Yes sir, real fishy and I know fishy when I see it.

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[R2D2]

Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate.

They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”

Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document.

“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.

“I’d be more afraid it’d be fake if it was one in piece. It would be harder to check if it’s a good one if it’s a fake,” Tremblay said.

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If this so called expert says it is real. Well I would ask in whos eyes is he an expert. Not in mine by any strech of imagination.....

[Weapon X]

If this so called expert says it is real. Well I would ask in whos eyes is he an expert. Not in mine by any strech of imagination.....

How about by Adobe??? Apparently you are not qualified to certify anybody in Adobe but Adobe is and does. be advised he is Adobe 9 and Adobe X certified.

http://acrobatusers.com/ace-experts

Edited March 11, 2012 by Weapon X