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10 High Profile resignations at banks across the world in the past 2 weeks


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I believe it is rumor fueled by these white hat people who have come into DV with no credentials, only their angry rhetoric. You will, of course, have to make your own decision regarding what you believe about them, but this is what I believe. In no way do I believe it is anything more than rumor.

My involvement in this thread was to link the starter post to other events that we know have happened. That was the 10 high profile resignations that have alledgedly occurred over the past 10 days.

I just checked the message board and found a new post listing the names and banks of not just 10 high profile resignations but 32 high profile resignations around the world. Strangely, the list continues to grow right in front of our eyes. If you choose to believe there is nothing to this, that it is just a concidense: I don't have a problem with that at all.

Anyone that has been following the posts of the white hats posted on this forum have probably got the same information that I have. I was mostly addresing my comments to these people to engage them in a conversation. It was not my position to try and dissuade you from your mindset. I am not the least bit interested in changing you mind, or anyone else's for that matter. I do not feel that at any time became angry in any way with you. I'm sorry if you thought that was the case, because it was not my intention.

Thank you for your comments

Carlos

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First thread I have read in a long time that I "had" to read every post! So interesting, so unsettleing, but for whoever said keep an open mind, kudos. Best we open our minds and don't kling to "normal". Huge danger in that! This is without doubt not a normal time we live in. My thoughts, stay vigilant! Keep eyes open, and as our former president said, "trust, but VERIFY". Lot of lying going on out there! My mind has been made up for some time now. It is truely time to stand up for our way of life, our constitution, our freedom. I am deeply involved in local government, and here in Kansas, we believe in freedom. I want these globalist hope and changers to just leave me alone! We are contented and doing just fine.

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Sawmill: I agree with much of what you say. I have been reading much since 2006-2007. I believe I have learned to separate the wheet from the chaff so to speak when it comes to the information at hand. There is a lot of information out there, not all of it is true and not all of it is complete, and gives a distorted message.

This is why people tend to look for patterns in statements or events that confirm something previously mentioned. When we start connecting the dots of a period of time we begin to feel confidence in what we learned because we feel that we have supporting evidence.

I have conscious effort to separated out the conspiracy theories, myths, superstitions. I am not focused on alien abductions, bigfoot sightings, Mayan Prophesies and the doomsday theories behind a predicted end of days, there are many out there. I not saying there is no truth, or thread of truth to any of these issues. I am ignoring them in these threads and am trying to focus on only what we have before us in this case. The world economic situation.

People may dissmiss my thought as rants, or simply another conspiracy theorist with a mission. I don't care what people think!

It's not an easy subject to put into brief words, especially since I have no previous experience in such matters, I suppose you could say I'm an average guy with no pedigree or special credentials that would tend to lend credibility to what I am saying.

Some of these doomsday theorists that I mentioned among the other therorists are actually telling the truth. Specifically the economical doomsday theorists. I have been reading and following these threads and have actually learned through their specific predictions that.

1.- We are past "peak oil" One could argue in fact that we are at "peak" everything! Water, timber, minerals. We only realy have renuable resouces left as a species.

2.-There are no new major, cheap and easy to access oil finds available to exploit. With the exception of Iraq. ( I may get some flack on this one!) And no real alternatives either.

3.- We are at peak economic sustainable growth, There appears nothing more to look forward to in this country with the exception of oil production and mining left to exploit.

4.-On top of the fact that there is no where for our population to continue to grow economically we have been saddled with a mind boggling national debt created largely by the Fed at the request of the banking elite in London with the aid of their servants, our government representatives.

I recommend the movie "Collapse" an interview with Michael Ruppert, available on netflix. He explains our economic situation clearly for those willing to listen.

Here is where these people come in: They are called many things, The elite, The Cabal, The Dark Cabal, The Dark Hats, Western Banking syndicates, also every other derragatory term you can think of.

It's an exclusive club, The Bildenburger Group, among them are people alledgedly so wealthy that us common folk cannot fathom. These are said to be the people that appoint US Presidents regardless of who you vote for. I have heard and read that it does not matter who you vote for, in reality these people will not allow chance to come into play when it comes to a desicion that they feel they are better qualified to make. Regardless of whatever you or I think about it. They don't care about us little people.

The elite institued the FEDERAL RESERVE clandestinely with the aid of Pres. Woodrow Wilson in the early 1900, giving the london banking syndicate complete control over our national money supply, and our future.

These people have been accused for decades of creating wars for their own profit by manipulating national emotions through acts that can be consided acts of domestic terrorism, hense the term "false flag attack" where our own government sets up the conditions for an attack, or even orchestrates the attack to make it seem we were attacked by coinsidently the same people we just love to hate. Therefore winning popular support for what would otherwise get no traction with anyone. no one normal that is!

Some people who have knowledge of the historical facts can actually say that when emotion and nationalism are removed from the picture allowing objectivity to prevail: cliam that our country has never been in a war that was not economically inspired by those who would profit from the same war.

Getting back to the thread leader. 10 HIGH PROFILE BANKING RESIGNATIONS" I say this is good news, and better news still is the fact that the numers are growing. I feel the White hats roadmap to what was going to happen is happening.

We are are only recently becoming aware of the magnitude of the crimes comitted have reason for hope. Please inform yourselves and inform those around you. Keep an open mind to the posibility, and prepare yourself for what is coming, you will be glad you did.

what I have said is not original. All I have done is take an interest in the issue, and read... you can too! I am repeating what many others are saying.

Carlos

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My involvement in this thread was to link the starter post to other events that we know have happened. That was the 10 high profile resignations that have alledgedly occurred over the past 10 days.

I just checked the message board and found a new post listing the names and banks of not just 10 high profile resignations but 32 high profile resignations around the world. Strangely, the list continues to grow right in front of our eyes. If you choose to believe there is nothing to this, that it is just a concidense: I don't have a problem with that at all.

Anyone that has been following the posts of the white hats posted on this forum have probably got the same information that I have. I was mostly addresing my comments to these people to engage them in a conversation. It was not my position to try and dissuade you from your mindset. I am not the least bit interested in changing you mind, or anyone else's for that matter. I do not feel that at any time became angry in any way with you. I'm sorry if you thought that was the case, because it was not my intention.

Thank you for your comments

Carlos

Thank you for telling me this, Carlos. I will check it out further based upon your comments. :)

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The hero of Atlas Shrugged, a book by Any Rand in which the hero absents himself from the social order because of the amount of corruption going on. I think I'm right, but admit freely I could be wrong, so if anyone has diffferent information or a correction to add, I will be glad to read it.

No no, you got it right, but you missed the joke entirely :lol:

The capitalists and successful business men would say "Who is John Galt" while resigning their positions and just before disappearing to those who couldn't understand why they would give it all up.

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The above posts are great btw. This is good discussion. I also want to clarify; to BR549tx, i think when you asked if this was a rumor i said the op probably was. Im pretty sure im wrong and told you the wrong thing. I think i was thinking about conspiracy theories.. lol. This is all connected. We may be watching real history.

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My involvement in this thread was to link the starter post to other events that we know have happened. That was the 10 high profile resignations that have alledgedly occurred over the past 10 days.

I just checked the message board and found a new post listing the names and banks of not just 10 high profile resignations but 32 high profile resignations around the world. Strangely, the list continues to grow right in front of our eyes. If you choose to believe there is nothing to this, that it is just a concidense: I don't have a problem with that at all.

Anyone that has been following the posts of the white hats posted on this forum have probably got the same information that I have. I was mostly addresing my comments to these people to engage them in a conversation. It was not my position to try and dissuade you from your mindset. I am not the least bit interested in changing you mind, or anyone else's for that matter. I do not feel that at any time became angry in any way with you. I'm sorry if you thought that was the case, because it was not my intention.

Thank you for your comments

Carlos

I agree, this is no coincidence. Watch the USD Index. It’s at 78.3 right now. The lowest was ~71.5 in April 08. If you look at a 5 year span, the dollar is being forced into a wedge. Anyone that charts will know this. For those that don’t, it means that the index created higher lows and lower highs pushing it into a wedge. At the point where it gets pushed into the tip of the wedge, it breaks out hard one way or the other.. NORMALLY. With all of the debt and the other negative numbers that are still coming out. I believe it will break down. The dollar will fall. Where we really need to watch is when it gets to that 08 Low. If it breaks that, we really don’t know what will happen or how low it will continue to go. If you think about this.. If the people in the “know” hold dinar. If those people are in power.. they are part of the elite, they can influence the index. EX. Printing more money… If the dollar was to collapse to ultra lows. Let’s say the RV happened at the lowest point of the USD Index. You would get way more USD from exchanging your IQD. I think at some point in the next 5-10 years the dollar will be replaced by something else. This is all speculation on my part.

Lots of good ideas here though!

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qj3: I agree with what you are saying. I don't watch the numbers you do, but have arrived at the same conclution you have by plain old horse sense, as they say. I'm sure we all have questions regarding what we are talking about that bother some and haunt others. I suppose the main question in everyone's mind is that given what we do know that we can call a fact: the innevitable decline in the dollar, the next thing that comes to mind is simply...When? How much? and then people will get around to asking....Why?

The doomers suspect the event will happen overnight and the results will be catastrophic, I don't believe our government could show that degree of callousness to allow such a thing to happen in that way. Most people in this country have not got a single clue that this is in the works...most live in the proverbial bubble, their own space, their own minds, oblivious to everything except what the controlled media and their handlers want them to know. They will become deer in the headlights...just before the impact

The governments will deny any knowledge of the forecomming event, playing stupid has worked well in the past> If that does not work then we switch to plan B...lie! We know nothing about it, we could not have predicted it!

Funny how the FED did not see the dot com bubble coming, they did not see the housing bubble coming until we were in the mist of the problem, and the debt bubble is now upon us and the flashing lights and bells are still not going off! The bank bailouts in late 2007 were a surprise to the majority in our government that needed immediate emergency infussion of cash.

I don't imagine that a rapid decrease in the value of the dollar in in anyone's best interest. it will not benefit the White hats and it will not benefit the western bankers to loose control so rapidly.

If the western bankers allow this to get aout of control and riots break out in major cities around this country there will be hell to pay by someone. Anger is a part of grief or shock, it can take many forms..this is unpredictable, sooner or later the individual involved realizes that he needs to control his emotions and starts to negociate with himself (or a group) to reach an agreement through a process of give and take until he arrives at reconciliation with himself or another person or group. He has come to accept the event that caused the grief or shock.

The process civilization will follow is a normal process, but who knows what awaits us while this process plays itself out? None of us have been through this before. We don't know what to expect? There is much apprehention right now. Much uncertainty. Our beliefs that we have held for generations are being challenged to the very core !!

Thanks for allowing me to express myself!

Carlos

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40 RESIGNATIONS FROM WORLD BANKS SINCE 25TH SEPTEMBER 2011

(1) 9/25/11 (SWITZERLAND) Bank chief resigns over ?1.5bn rogue trader crisis

http://www.dailymail...ng-scandal.html

(2) 10/29/11 (CHINA) Resignations Suggest Shift for China’s Banks

http://online.wsj.co...4190522426.html

(3) 11/01/12 (INDIA) More directors of the Beed district bank resign

http://www.thenews.c...ict-bank-resign

(4) 11/21/11 (JAPAN) UBS?s Japan Investment Banking Chairman Matsui to Resign

http://www.bloomberg...-to-resign.html

(5) 11/29/11 (Iran) Iran’s Bank Melli CEO Resigns Over Loan Scam

http://www.dailymoti...-loan-scam_news

(6) 12/15/11 (UNITED KINGDOM) Senior private banker resigns from Coutts [a very exclusive private bank]

http://www.reuters.c...E7NF23S20111215

(7) 12/22/11 (FRANCE) Societe Generale?s Investment Banking Chief Steps Down

http://dealbook.nyti...ief-steps-down/

12/23/11 (USA VA) Bank feud: Chairman Giles quits VNB with other directors

http://www.readtheho...other-directors

(8) 1/05/12 (UNITED KINGDOM) Chief executive of Saunderson House [Private Bank] steps down

http://www.ftadviser...GM/article.html

(9)1/09/12 (SWITZERLAND) Switzerland’s central bank chief resigns

http://www.aljazeera...5612935171.html

(10) 1/12/12 (United Kingdom) Lloyds? head of wholesale quits

http://www.bankingti...holesale-quits/

(11) 1/19/12 (SPAIN) Spanish bank Santander’s Americas chief quits

http://www.expatica....its_202395.html

(12) 1/30/12 (UNITED KINGDOM) Head Of UK Private Bank Steps Down [butterfield Private Bank]

http://www.wealthbri...s_Down&id=43933

(13) 1/20/12 (JAPAN) Normura’s head of wholesale banking quits

http://www.euromoney...king-quits.html

(14) 1/29/12 (NEW ZEALAND) New Zealand Reserve Bank Governor Alan Bollard to Step Down in September

http://www.bloomberg...-september.html

(15) 1/21/12 (Greece) Banks’ top negotiator quits Greece, but talks go on

http://www.france24....ce-but-talks-go

(16) 2/02/12 (VENEZUELA) Key Chavez Minister Resigns Amid Banking Corruption Fallout

http://www.laht.com/...rticleId=348565

(17) 2/05/12 (USA – NY) Two Top Morgan Stanley Bankers Resign

http://www.stockbrok...ey-1133774.html

(18) 2/06/12 (INDIA) Dhanlaxmi Bank CEO Amitabh Chaturvedi quits:

http://www.livemint....mitabh-Cha.html

(19) 2/07/12 (INDIA) Falguni Nayar quits Kotak Mahindra Bank

http://articles.econ...hanti-ekambaram

(20) 2/07/12 (IRAN) Iran denies central bank resignation rumor (don’t believe until its denied?)

http://finance.yahoo...-164154294.html

(21) 2/09/12 (VATICAN) Four Priests Charged In Vatican Banking Scandal

http://articles.busi...nces-italian-tv

(22) 2/10/12 (KOREA) Korea Exchange Bank chief steps down

http://english.yonha...0005100320.HTML

(23) 2/10/12 (INDIA) Tamilnad Mercantile Bank CEO resigns

http://www.business-...resigns/464259/

(24) 2/13/12 (KUWAIT) Kuwait Central Bank CEO resigns

http://www.washingto...rOAR_story.html

(25) 2/14/12 (NICARAQUA) Nicaraqua Central Bank Pres Rosales resigns

http://www.bloomberg...s-amid-row.html

(26) 2/14/12 (UNITED KINGDOM) Social finance pioneer Hayday steps down from Charity Bank

http://www.socialent...wn-charity-bank

(27) 2/15/12 World Bank CEO Zoellick resigns

http://business.time...ellick-resigns/

Did the White House tell the World Bank president that he’s out?

http://bosco.foreign...nt_that_hes_out

(28) 2/15/12 (SLOVENIA) Slovenia TWO largest Banks CEO’s (2) resign

http://www.bloomberg...os-resigns.html

(29) 2/15/12 (KENYA) Governor of Kenyan Central Bank to Resign

http://www.centralba...governor-resign

(30) 2/16/12 (GHANA) Ken Ofori-Atta steps down as Executive Chair of Databank Group

http://business.thin...01202/57429.php

(31) 2/16/12 (SAUDI ARABIA) Saudi Hollandi Banks Managing Director Quits

http://webcache.goog...n&ct=clnk&gl=us

(32) 2/16/12 (AUSTRALIA) Anz Bank CFO Australia resigns

http://www.proformat...s-amid-turmoill

(33) 2/16/12 (UNITED KINGDOM) Royal Bank of Scotland Bankers Arrested

http://www.telegraph...-tax-probe.html

(34) 2/16/12 (AUSTRALIA) Royal Bank of Scotland Austrailan CEO Stephen Williams resigns

http://www.theaustra...j-1226272513981

(35) 2/17/12 (USA) Blankfein out as Goldman Sachs CEO by summer

http://finance.fortu...-goldman-sachs/

(36) 2/17/12 (SWITZERLAND) SNB Council President To Leave Central Bank

http://online.wsj.co...217-710604.html

(37) 2/18/12 (PAKISTAN) AJK Bank?s executive steps down

http://www.nation.co...+Latest+News%29

(38) 2/20/12 (RUSSIA) Head of Russian Bank Regulator Steps Down

http://newsley.com/a...eps-down/206711

(39) 2/20/12 (SWITZERLAND) Credit Suisse Chief Joseph Tan resigns

http://www.businessw...an-resigns.html

(40) 2/20/12 (USA) R. David Land Submits Resignation from the Boards of Directors of Peoples Bancorporation, Inc. and Seneca National Bank

http://investing.bus...vcapId=25695731

http://www.beyond201...inancial-fever/

http://wakeup-world.com/2012/02/23/february-fever-why-are-major-bank-executives-resigning-left-and-right/

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No no, you got it right, but you missed the joke entirely :lol:

The capitalists and successful business men would say "Who is John Galt" while resigning their positions and just before disappearing to those who couldn't understand why they would give it all up.

Welll-l-l-l-l . . . . I remember this now. It's been so many years since i read it that I had forgotten this. Looks like I'm overdue to read it again. Thanks for clarifying this. I appreciate it very much.

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Tamiflyer.. wow, now that is just nuts. Great find.

Carlos in san diego, I agree with what youve been saying. I think, but i ould be wrong, that that little tickle in the back of my mind is related to all of this lol. Ive felt for some time that as things stand, and have been for quite a while, cannot last. I dont mean end if the world but still. Im concerned that not enough people are aware of the catastrophe that is the global economy. Most know there are problems and complain about prices at the pump but have no idea as to how all this got started and what is happening now. I posted a link on my wall on fb about the $6 trillion bonds found in italy and have bumped it and a few other things constantly over the past few days. You want to know what reaction it recieved? None. Not even someone to say im weird for posting something like that. Everyone is wound up with basketball, stupid human tricks, inane daily happenings, or posting semi witty political crap. No one cared. Its scary.. which leaves me to wonder what people will do when the *%#* hits the proverbial fan.

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WOW...I could never have imagined that many have been made to resign! Thanks Tamiflyer! I wonder how many more are left to go?

I just don't see how this could be attributed to chance or a random act of some kind! I'm glad you presented this post because I had really stretched my neck out on this one.

Thanks again!

Carlos

Carlos, you say "made to resign," and perhaps I missed where you explained this, so I'll go back through this thread and re-read to see if I just didn't see it, but if you didn't explain this earlier, would you mind explaining it now, please? I want to know why you believe they were "made" to resign. And who made them do it? And I would like to know what is going to happen to the world wide banking system now. Where is it going from here? Why now? And perhaps above all, who do we thank for this?

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Tamiflyer.. wow, now that is just nuts. Great find.

Carlos in san diego, I agree with what youve been saying. I think, but i ould be wrong, that that little tickle in the back of my mind is related to all of this lol. Ive felt for some time that as things stand, and have been for quite a while, cannot last. I dont mean end if the world but still. Im concerned that not enough people are aware of the catastrophe that is the global economy. Most know there are problems and complain about prices at the pump but have no idea as to how all this got started and what is happening now. I posted a link on my wall on fb about the $6 trillion bonds found in italy and have bumped it and a few other things constantly over the past few days. You want to know what reaction it recieved? None. Not even someone to say im weird for posting something like that. Everyone is wound up with basketball, stupid human tricks, inane daily happenings, or posting semi witty political crap. No one cared. Its scary.. which leaves me to wonder what people will do when the *%#* hits the proverbial fan.

It's called" living in a bubble" it's commonplace. People are preocupied with whatever nonesense that makes them feel good, while they avoid reality. They just don't want to know and believe that any real problems out there effect someone else, not them. tthey feel they are somehow immune from any looming threat that is out there. I agree they need a wakeup call and will get one someday soon. I would recommend not wasting your time on those that will not listen. Focus on yourself, your extended family, friends and neighbors.

On the other hand you don't want to go to the other extreme and become a person obcessed with the upcomming events, you do need to do positive things for yourself and family to prerpare for whatever scenario we find ourselves in soon, also, do not allow yourself or yours, to be caught up in demonstrations or riots that may develop. You will loose your freedom and maybe your life.

I am not a financial advisor but would recommend that you not take my advise, but that of the US Treasury in a public declaration they made a couple of years ago, when the told the investors and people of the nation to divest themselves of US Dollar holdings! I read the article. It spoke of the decline in the value of the dollar as the basis for the statement. Hopefully someone else read the same article and can corroborrate.

I don't have a link nor did I save the info to my files at the time, I can only say that I did read it! You have my word on it. Personally I took the notice very seriously an divested myself of any dollar denominated paper. Stocks, bonds, and have turned my cash into prescious metals.

Othe folks recommend paying down your debt in all forms, credit cards, car loans and mortgages. I feel this is a wise move also. You will find that it feels good to be debt free. A feeling some Americans have never felt: This may be the only definition of true freedom left. try it, it doen't hurt!

Carlos

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Carlos, I think we are on the same page with this. In the event of an RV/RI I've got some plans along those lines. Myself and friends and family will be debt free too. One thing I'm either going to get for some friends or family or recommend is legit self defense and survival training. I know a lot of people plan to stock up on g&a, but with the exception of exmilitary and law enforcement many do not have certain skill sets that would benefit them. Hunting is one thing. cqb, etc is another. I think the best piece of advice I have for anyone regarding the rv or whatever may come is to have good plans. BUT have great backup plans.

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Carlos, you say "made to resign," and perhaps I missed where you explained this, so I'll go back through this thread and re-read to see if I just didn't see it, but if you didn't explain this earlier, would you mind explaining it now, please? I want to know why you believe they were "made" to resign. And who made them do it? And I would like to know what is going to happen to the world wide banking system now. Where is it going from here? Why now? And perhaps above all, who do we thank for this?

Francie26:

I'll answer your questions as they were put, and as briefly as possible, but in a way you will hopefully better understand the issue you ask about. The white hats first report came out around the time of the Strauss Kahn scandal broke or soon before. Strauss Kahn was the head of the IMF, he was accused of raping a housekeeper at his New York hotel back in Sept. of last year if I remember correctly.

I though the first white hats report incredible and cryptic, it spoke of ongoing investigations among the bank accounts of the banking elite, they claimed the their accounts were being monitored, and illigal funds were being tracked. They claimed there would be "massive arrests" and to look out for sudden and unnexplained resignations to occur soon.

this report was followed by more reports claiming that progress was being made, the bankers who would not recognise that the world economic situation was unsustainable would be "moved aside'. Other news around the world posted on this forum talked about China and Russia trying to depose the US dollar as the world reserve currency citing the instability of the dollar due to excesive over printing by the fed. At this point I put 2 and 2 together.

A later report claimed that Interpol has flown several planes full of agents to the US to perform an audit on the federal reserve. The report stated that they has found 16 trillion dollars had been printed by the elite and shipped to European Banks. Some time later this item was headline news.

Then a report posted by Papster dated January 26, 2012 appeared on this forum. I did not save a copy to file but did keep a hardcopy, I quote from it:

headline: China, japan, Russia, Iran, and India (29 countries) DUMPING the Dollar in bilateral trade, the list includes:

Brazil, Argentina, China, Indonesia, India, Iran, UAE, Belarus, Hong Kong, South Korea, Russia, Japan, Malaysia, Venezuela, Syria, Cuba, Turkey, Dubai, and 11 other Latin American countries

it's at this point that the White hats have identified themselves. On the other side of the globe, the dark hats are: The European Union, Great Britain, and the United States. The one thing the dark hats have in common is that they are exclusively controlled by the Banking elite set up in London and The US. They include family names like the Rothchilds and a group of monied families that control everything. Their fronts are exclusive clubs like the Bildenburg Group, The Trilateral Commission and others. The clubs or groups and think tanks control the policies followed by the dark hats.

Personally, I suspect economic corruption and manipulation is not the only items on the minds of the white hats. They have targetted the economic activities of the groups and individuals to bring them to justice, but in doing so, they also end the militaristic adventures of the elite. The way it has worked in the past, with some veriables has been roughly like this:

Government officials here come up with trumped up excusses to isolate and pressure through the UN a country whose natural resources they (the elite) want to control, they create what's called a "false flag" attack upon this country to get the american people all worked up to get them to approve a war. Not telling the american people the truth also works well.

Naturally, the media is onboard because they are owned by the elite, and they do their part to justify the war to the American people, when the POTUS's approaval rating gets high enough for action the US military swing into action.

The objectives are to free a nation from the grips of a ruthless dictator, and to eliminate him as a potential threat to our freedom loving people because he has WMD and may use it on us or our allies (Israel, where most of the elite hail from) without prior warning.

The real objectives are known to few. They are to make a safe path for US big business, and also to get control of the countries Central bank and Currency, making the elite the winners all around. They do not care about the lives lost by countless thousand who thought they were fighting for our freedom. They do not care either about the countless lives lost as 'collateral damage" so that they could profit.

When the elite are finished with one country, they rack a huge national debt in this country as the price of defending freedom, they expect the debt to be paid by the windfall received from devalueing a nations currency and waiting for it to RV in order to pay off the national debt. It worked before. But It did not work in Iraq.

The massive debt we have from Iraq and Afghanistan have not been paid because the dinar did not RV as was thought according to the plan, adding to this debt was the decade of debauchery of the bankers who needed to be bailed out at our expense..The debt remains as ours, yours and mine.

What's going to happen? I don't know exactly...I have ideas based on some simple graffs. I'll explain:

The history of fossil fuel can be put on a graff. The image on the graff represents a side view of a bell, we will call this a bell graff. It simply curves upward gently to a rounded peak and then it drops down the other side with the same angle. The baseline of the graff at the bottom of the bell roughly represents the amount of time we have been using oil for industry, or roughly 100 to 150 years. We are told by those who know that we reached "peak oil" sometime aroung the 1970's The conscensus is that we are now on the downhill slope of the bell. We are in effect running out of oil as we speak, while world demand increases at staggering speeds.

Understandably governments are reluctant to talk much about this fact for obvious reasons, the dates of these events will vary widely because of this.

I think it would be reasonable to say that if it took 100 years to arrive at peak oil, then it should take another 100 years before we run out, and we will be OK during my lifetime, so why should I worry? Well, that's not the case, because demand is outsstripping supply exponencially, and as the resource if further depleated, the resource becomes dramatically more expensive. It will probably become too expensive to power a vehicle within the foreseeable future. The world is changing fast.

But even that is not the whole picture. There is another angle to this that is as important as peak oil. That is that we can trace the increase in human population on a graff, population began to increase as the use of fossil fuels developed and skyrockeded when gas burning engines were developed. human growth can also be put on a graff. What is thought provoking is the fact that human population growth also takes the shape of a bell on a graff. It's the mirror image of the oil bell. In other words, human population grouth was spurred on by the developement of the internal combustion engine.

What's curious and alarming is that just as peak oil leads to a downward slope, so will world population. The concept can be seen in a peetry dish with bacteria. If food is always available to the bacteria, they continue to multiply, but once the food is gradually removed the population of bacteria (or people) begins to dye off

So what we can expect in the long run is that, as a race, we should survive into the next century, but we will be living as our forefathers lived back in the early 1700's. We will have to reinvent their lifestyle again. It was a sustainable lifestyle until greed reared it's ugly head!

I suspect the elite have known what to expect for some time and this is why we are seeing all the rip-off that we are witnessing now. They just want the wealth and power for themselves and don't care about anyone else, they also control the power in the world, they feel they are untouchable, above man's laws.

Noteworthy point, it's ironic that many of those nations that we considered our mortal enemies not long ago are obviously coming to the rescue of a population that is not even aware of what is happening to them. We must change. As we go down the slippery slope of the end of oil, we need to recognise that idiology, politics, religion, economy that we once held so dear is fading and must be replaced by something more sustainable and practicle.

Now you know what is going to happen. Plan accordingly for your future. I'll get off my soapbox now. I hope you enjoy!

carlos

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Carlos I agree with you. Im not sure about one thing though. I realise that some who read this thread will be confused or taken aback by its contents. But in my opinion there is something not accounted for, not intentionally but becaise its probably impossible to know. Lets say the coming storm happens and the population is reduced, along the lines of the bell graph you describe. I would imagine the 'elite' would want to or already have planned on ways to survive. Secret locations and underground bases are one thing. But do they have a contingency plan in the event the earth becomes uninhabitable due to any number 'bad hings' that could happen? Do they ahve somewhere else to go? Lol. Hey I feel its a legit question, others may think its a bit off kilter.. but really, if there is a cataclisym who helps them?

Additionally, Ive heard conflicting observations about global oil levels. There is what ive heard about peak oil and that we will more or less run out. Then there is a camp saying it is a resource of some sort constantly recreated by the planet itself. * no links, just what ive heard from the fringe of life and conversations ive had. I dont know for sure either way. Here is why. I am not an expert in oil, and like the majority of the populace have barely higher than a highschool level of knowledge relating to the subject. But thats my point, Im not an expert. Ive not had the education and training to actually study oil fields, crust samples, etc. I go by what Im told. My field of study after highschool was the criminal justice system. Not oil. Guess im trying to say is this; what if they (experts, media lol) are lying, Or dont really know what they are talking about. I dont know, thats for sure. My two cents for tonight.

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I understand what you are saying about people being taken aback by what I'm saying. I have encountered the problem already. It seems like it's too much info at one time, and the issue is really complicated to try and explain it to someone who does not know anything about it.

But there is always the temptation to try and reach out to someone who knows nothing about this, especially if you care for the people. I have family members that I have not shared this with because knowing their personalities...they would think that I've gone off my rocker and need intervention, so...I have not brought them into this for fear that their initial rejection of the issue would taint the topic forever more. What do you do? The only thing I can think is to wait for the oportunity to present itself, when they start to connect the dots themselves, and then just give them a little push in the right direction. I believe the movie entitled, "COLLAPSE" and interview with Michael Ruppert is an excellent tool to bring someone into the conversation. I highly recommend the movie to anyone that is interested in their own future survival. Much of what I explained in my previous posts were taken directly from this source.

I don't know how to respond to what the elite have been doing to prepare for their future survival. If you think about the posibility of loosing half of the world's population in 100 to 200 years out, that's scary stuff. That's what? 3 BILLION people dead in 200 years? How does anybody prepare for something like that? There's no way!

I'm not an expert either in what might be left of natural reserves of oil. I don't think that precludes us from making reasonable conjectures. There is enough, no, waaay too much information out there in the net to reasonably agree that this situation is real.

Most speakers that talk about the subject of "peak oil" refer back to the first who figured out the problem and who's name the bell curve is named after. That's a man by the name of M. King Hubbart, I get conflicting info as to weather he first published his findings in 1949 or 1956, but he was largely ignored and ridiculed for what he did by mainstream scientist, ( go figure) that peak oil would occur in 1970. The bell curve is called the "Hubbart Curve"

He was laughed at because the feeling that prevailed during those years and since was that we enjoyed and endless supply of cheap ready available oil products at our disposal. To this day, it amazes me how many people do not think twice when they climb into their gas gussling full sized SUVs without any knowledge of what is really going on while they blissfully tootle down the road to extinction.

Another intersting anecdote, is that I have never seen anything published anywhere, where that shows us exactly where we are at the moment on this curve. I wonder if the information is not being wthheld on purpose. Someplace I would like to fing an arrow pointing someplace on the curve with the caption "you are here"

I guess it does not much matter in the big picture...just watch the prices at the gas pump, that's as good an indicator as anything you will find.

Carlos

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My main vehicle is a four wheel drive truck, the car I drive the most has a V8.. so I watch the pump like a hawk lol. Ive heard of Hubbart, but didnt know most of the details. I guess the only thing we can do at the moment is just wait and see what happens. Should be an interesting ride for sure.

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My involvement in this thread was to link the starter post to other events that we know have happened. That was the 10 high profile resignations that have alledgedly occurred over the past 10 days.

I just checked the message board and found a new post listing the names and banks of not just 10 high profile resignations but 32 high profile resignations around the world. Strangely, the list continues to grow right in front of our eyes. If you choose to believe there is nothing to this, that it is just a concidense: I don't have a problem with that at all.

Anyone that has been following the posts of the white hats posted on this forum have probably got the same information that I have. I was mostly addresing my comments to these people to engage them in a conversation. It was not my position to try and dissuade you from your mindset. I am not the least bit interested in changing you mind, or anyone else's for that matter. I do not feel that at any time became angry in any way with you. I'm sorry if you thought that was the case, because it was not my intention.

Thank you for your comments

Carlos

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No, this is fact, and one that is hard to believe, at that. But one can't help believing it. Facts being facts, and all. Carlos, perhaps there is something to your reference to Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, after all. As I told you a few days ago, I haven't read that book in possibly 50+ years, but I recently bought a new copy, so I'll get into it in a day or two. What did Ayn Rand know in 1957 that we don't know today? I read this book then, but my reading skills weren't as sophisicated as they have become with years of reading in my background, so I don't think I really understood her work back then. It will be interesting to read it again. Agonizingly slow, I suppose, but interesting, haha

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Most speakers that talk about the subject of "peak oil" refer back to the first who figured out the problem and who's name the bell curve is named after. That's a man by the name of M. King Hubbart, I get conflicting info as to weather he first published his findings in 1949 or 1956, but he was largely ignored and ridiculed for what he did by mainstream scientist, ( go figure) that peak oil would occur in 1970. The bell curve is called the "Hubbart Curve"

Just to be clear the Hubbart Curve is not a "bell curve" nor is it named so. A bell curve is a Gaussian distribution. The two may look similar at fist glance but mathematically they are quite different. The Hubbart Curve is also (according to the wiki) not just about peak oil but any resource

The Hubbert curve is an approximation of the production rate of a resource over time. It is a symmetric logistic distribution curve,[1] often confused with the "normal" gaussian function. It first appeared in "Nuclear Energy and the Fossil Fuels," geophysicist M. King Hubbert's 1956 presentation to the American Petroleum Institute, as an idealized symmetric curve, during his tenure at the Shell Oil Company.[1] It has gained a high degree of popularity in the scientific community for predicting the depletion of various natural resources. The curve is the main component of Hubbert peak theory, which has led to the rise of peak oil concerns.
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To get us back on the topic. Here is an updated list Ive found on another site. The links no longer work, im sure you can just google the headline.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1796972/pg1

Thanks for that post dude! I'm dumfounded! This post made my day! Where will it end? When are we going to hear of resignations in the Federal Reserve? Hows that going to work?

Yesterday, Emmet posted a link to an article that said that the stream of resignations at Goldman-Sachs has grown from a stream to a flood! Is that cool or what? That is the main rat nest in this country, i mean other than the Fed and both houses on the hill!

Carlos

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