Email sent to me from a friend

[Tirebiter]

I'm not knocking anybody on this site. I'm just saying he is predicting the RV.

Basically it's a guru prediction.

No problem Sector. It's all a matter of interpretation. I'm of the opinion that "predictions" are just opinions anyway. Sorry if I came across as judgemental of your post. That was not my intention. I would argue the "Guru" tag, however. The Gurus post incessantly the same garbage everyday and this was an e-mail between friends with an opinion from one friend to another. Did he make a "prediction"? Maybe, but he sure as heck isn't representing himself as a Guru. If posting or e-mailing our opinions is always considered a prediction, then we are all Gurus based on your interpretation. Peace out my friend.

[wingit]

It isn't a prediction, its an opinion based on research. Gurus make chit up. A lot of folks give an opinion based on what they are reading, hearing, etc. In this case, Alex38's friend is involved in finance. I respect his opinion. Will it come true? Who knows. But I trust an opinion of an informed person with financial experience more than a dude who now claims the NSA told him to shut up. Persoanlly, I didn't realize we were all memebers of the NSA. We've all been hoping or telling Okie to shut up for some time. jmo.

I think "Tirebiter" hit it out of the park on this. There is a major difference between the"Poo-rus" blurting out short bursts of babble that has no fact involved , and a well researched opinion. He may or my not be correct but at least he spent time investigating so as not to seem like another, "Poo-ru"

[dinarful]

I heard 7 to 10 days when I first got in over 6 years ago........but one day....

[DinarDana]

"The Chinese need a free market, capitalistic society to which to sell their wares and they are watching these greedy globalists paving the way for a Soylent Green-type society."

OK, so I didn't know what "Soylent Green" was, so I googled it. It's a science fiction movie from 1973. Now I want to see the movie, it looks really interesting...ordered the dvd from ebay.

Soylent Green is a 1973 American science fiction film directed by Richard Fleischer and starring Charlton Heston, and in his final film, Edward G. Robinson. The film overlays the police procedural and science fiction genres as it depicts the investigation into the murder of a wealthy businessman in a dystopian future suffering from pollution, overpopulation, depleted resources, poverty, dying oceans, and a hot climate due to the greenhouse effect. Much of the population survives on processed food rations, including "soylent green", a small green wafer advertised to contain "high-energy plankton". It is more nutritious and palatable than the other varieties but is in short supply, which leads to food riots.The protagonist discovers that the oceans no longer produce the plankton from which Soylent Green is said to be made and that it is now made of the human dead. --Wikipedia

Freaky movie, one that stuck out in my mind forever. It was deeply disturbing to me. Often, in todays world there are things that remind me of this movie, things happening today, I thought was fiction....

[Texas1]

Freaky movie, one that stuck out in my mind forever. It was deeply disturbing to me. Often, in todays world there are things that remind me of this movie, things happening today, I thought was fiction....

Police Academy 2 had the same effect on me.

[DinarDana]

Not that I am aware of. Funny thing is... I didn't even know he was invested until a few days ago and we talk quite frequently... usually just about the "biz" though. Crazy world!!!

Well this information struck a nerve with me because I have heard this before. I do recall a member here who I enjoyed reading his posts, he was involved in either writing a book or a script for a documentary regarding a cabal involved in global monetary issues. Anyway I did a bit of digging around and couldn't find the information. However I did a lot of digging regarding other statements made in the email and it lead me down a dark alley of web surfing and I got lost for hours reading random information and couldn't string much together. Again I say peculiar and I do hope that the RV does happen soon. Thanks for sharing this information, it has been noted and filed. I won't be found asleep at the wheel.

[DinarWhiz]

Didn't Adam mention before Valentines Day??

[KiaKaha]

Didn't Adam mention before Valentines Day??

Not sure about Adam, but Bravo/Ovarb said by then.

KK

[Adam Montana]

At the risk of sounding like a "bank story", I have an IRS story. lol. My accountant had a gal in his office a few years ago that screwed up and put my bank info on another client's tax return. Short story long, I received a direct deposit of their tax refund AND their stimulus money. I called the IRS. They had no idea what to do. They actually told me this was not their problem and they couldn't track it so I could just keep it. I knew this wasn't right so I never touched it. Next, my bank called me and wanted me to write a check to the IRS to refund it. I declined. I told both of them they needed to straighten it out. They could just deduct it from my account and give it to the rightful owners, but I refused to touch it or have my fingerprints on the money. I didn't make the mistake, and I sure as heck wasn't going to initiate transactions that involved me with others money.

I believe that was the right choice.

(How does it end?)

Didn't Adam mention before Valentines Day??

I may have mentioned that I better get my wife a present before Valentine's Day...

[chocolate1]

Actor. Mainly on camera. But I do a lot of voice over work. My IMDB page has most of my credits. Alex Skuby.

I have heard of that.... interesting.

Wow! I have a nephew who is in pictures. He has directed and starred in two pictures so far (his only 2).

I used to live in Northridge, CA in 2006 while under some contract work in Panorama City. During the lunch hour, out and about, I was approached on two different occasions by 'business' men. The first time I was just walking around by the Jaguar dealership on Roscoe Blvd grabbing some coffee (there is/used to be a Starbucks inside the Dealership) and in one other instance I was walking towards an eatery on van nuys blvd. In each instance-they left me their business card after chatting with me for a while.

They were not really clear about their business prospects when we chatted other than they were in charge of Recruiting for a "Fortune 500 Company". Can you guess what it was yet? I called them later since my contract would soon be over after the year was up-we talked and they finally let the cat out of the bag....

These guys were from the Porn film Industry and were looking for new recruits! Until they mentioned it, I had no idea that the San Fernando Valley is the largest manufacturer in the world of porn. i was flattered of course-but, never!

[chocolate1]

My friend is an author. He and I were chatting about this venture. I responded to him that I thought it would be a while before we saw any "real" movement on the IQD... here is his response:

I don’t think so, Alex. While researching my book, I developed a few relationships with some financial people who were anti-Goldman, anti-Fed like John Allison, Eric Rodin, Peter Luiks, Robert Fay, Ric Edelman and some others. The London-Bern-Rothschild contingent has overplayed their hand and China is looking at their investments going down the drain due to this massive central bank counterfeit operation. They were waiting to see if anyone was going to be prosecuted, but Obama isn’t going to do that. He’s owned by them, same as Bush. It’s Punch & Judy on a global scale.

The Grand Scheme was for the RV to occur before the election, giving Obama the funds to pay off the national debt and be swept into office as The Second Coming of George Washington; but, the EU has started to unravel due to Greece and Iraq is getting anxious about Iran and Syria. The London cartel has had to speed up the timeline; but, to hedge their bets, they put the NDAA into place which would allow them to enlist private armies to protect “critical assets,” i.e. banks and make mass arrests of angry protestors – in effect, declare martial law and turn the US into a police state. The Chinese need a free market, capitalistic society to which to sell their wares and they are watching these greedy globalists paving the way for a Soylent Green-type society. They’ve had enough. Time to flush the toilet. They are going to call in their note right after the RV. This will bankrupt the Federal Reserve, crush the dollar and totally sink the EU and the BIS in Bern. It is going to make 2008 look like a picnic in the park; but those who have IQDs are going to be holding good money that is backed by real assets, not fiat currency.

I heard this directly from an executive-level investment banker who sits on the board of a large, multi-national bank. He said that there are huge amounts of cash being moved around the system in an effort to fortify the weak spots in the system, but it is basically too little, too late. Bernanke and Draghi have printed so much currency to keep inflation at bay and keep the system flowing that there is no way to support it. It’s like the derivatives schemes; there’s more debts based on IOUs than there is assets in the whole world and now there’s more dollars and Euros than all of the assets in the US and the Euro zone.

Xxxx's advice was to form a corporation in Wyoming, Alaska, South Dakota, Florida or Texas because they have the strongest privacy firewalls. Have the corporation open an off-shore bank account; he actually recommended chartering a bank in the Philippines because of it’s non-aligned status. He also suggested converting your post-RV IQD to Canadian, Australian or South African Rands and use it to fund your corporation. Then your corporation hires you as an officer and pays you a salary, provides benefits and whatever else you need to perform your duties. It can all be set up by a good Private Banker with international experience. (BTW, I have a one I can recommend if you need one.) Jim also stressed that we get a “Letter of Opinion” from the IRS. This should be done as soon as possible AFTER the RV and handled by a competent tax attorney; this protects you from the IRS ever coming back later and trying to collect more taxes from you.

Nobody knows exactly when, but I was told to expect the RV in the next 7 to 10 days. Call me if you have any questions.

Love to Mo and the critters,

Xxxxxx

...so, then, no later than 6th?

[Mak63]

China isn't going to "call the note" after the RV, I am calling that a huge pile of crap. I am sorry but it is because of statements like this that I highly question this "source."

Neg me all that you want but I smell bull crap!

Dr. J

I'm inclined to agree Dr.J. IF China ever "calls the note" so to speak, without the US or Euro Zone being stablized, they kill the golden goose and that will be the "reset" that has been spoken of.

Mak63

[Tirebiter]

I believe that was the right choice.

(How does it end?)

It ended fine Adam. I kept getting a phone call from a gal at my bank who was in a panic that the folks whose money it was had hired an attorney. I patiently explained that was not a problem or threat to me as I deal with attorneys all day long. Additionally, this was still not my problem. It was between the IRS, the accountant, and the bank. I told her as far as I was concerned they could/should give the money to the rightful owners, but I was not going to touch it. They suggested I just write a check to the folks and I declined. I told them they could remove it themselves, transfer it, whatever, but I was not going to have my fingerprints on it any any way. They ended up just taking it out of my account and I'm not sure how the rightful owners ended up with it. All I knew was I didn't want anything to do with it myself I didn't want to look complicit in anything by actually doing anything with it.

[Adam Montana]

I believe that was the right choice.

(How does it end?)

It ended fine Adam. I kept getting a phone call from a gal at my bank who was in a panic that the folks whose money it was had hired an attorney. I patiently explained that was not a problem or threat to me as I deal with attorneys all day long. Additionally, this was still not my problem. It was between the IRS, the accountant, and the bank. I told her as far as I was concerned they could/should give the money to the rightful owners, but I was not going to touch it. They suggested I just write a check to the folks and I declined. I told them they could remove it themselves, transfer it, whatever, but I was not going to have my fingerprints on it any any way. They ended up just taking it out of my account and I'm not sure how the rightful owners ended up with it. All I knew was I didn't want anything to do with it myself I didn't want to look complicit in anything by actually doing anything with it.

Bravo, my friend! They obviously didn't want to touch it either - you did the right thing by standing your ground.

My wife often tells me that when someone asks a question unrelated to her exact role in their business, even if she knows the answer, she is obligated to refer them elsewhere simply for liability reasons. Example: my wife has a client that she does trial balances, profit and loss, and normal bookkeeping for. That client asks here a question about sales tax and she has to go "NOPE!" Because if that same client gets in trouble over a sales tax mistake in the future, who is the first finger pointed at?

Yep! The silly CPA who did a "nice" favor and stuck her fingers in the wrong spot. Even though she didn't cause the problem! Now it's HER job to defend herself... the phrase "no good deed goes unpunished" springs to mind

(This also reminds me of the VIP members that are planning on cashing in for their non-VIP friends... it's not a wise move. No offense to non-VIPs, or those that are helping their families out... I'm just saying some things are better left alone!)

[Princess DinarTard]

Not sure about Adam, but Bravo/Ovarb said by then.

KK

yes...he sure did say that....

just a few short weeks ago he (bravo) said we'd be picking out new cars by valentine'd day...4 days and counting

[Nightspell]

Ooops! Let me rephrase that: We don't know what we don't know, and we don't even know that we don't know what we don't know.

But what I DO know is that we will ALL know when the dinar revalues---no? So no worries about know worries! Less stressful that way.

[Carrello]

The Chinese need a free market, capitalistic society to which to sell their wares and they are watching these greedy globalists paving the way for a Soylent Green-type society. They’ve had enough. Time to flush the toilet. They are going to call in their note right after the RV. This will bankrupt the Federal Reserve, crush the dollar and totally sink the EU and the BIS in Bern. It is going to make 2008 look like a picnic in the park; but those who have IQDs are going to be holding good money that is backed by real assets, not fiat currency.

I think this may be referring to the huge amounts of gold the Chinese loaned the FED over many centuries, and now China wants it back. But the FED is refusing to pay it even though they have been directed by the BIS to do so. This is an offshoot of the suit in the UN brought by Neil Keenan and reported on by Ben Fulford. The money has "disappeared" over the centuries but the "families" in China are calling it in now. It will be interesting to see how this plays out and very much would bankrupt the FED, the EU, the BIS and the 4 big banks. At least that's JMHO. cdg

What you have stated is interesting, although I am confused by your reference to "gold the Chinese loaned the FED over many centuries". The FED was formed in 1913, not even one century ago. Do you mean decades?

[Carrello]

I'm inclined to agree Dr.J. IF China ever "calls the note" so to speak, without the US or Euro Zone being stablized, they kill the golden goose and that will be the "reset" that has been spoken of.

Mak63

I think you could say that geese are smart, and they would never poo poo in their own nest. Otheriwise, they need to find a new nest, and there isn't another one out there in gooseland.

[tdawg66]

This is all great information. I've recently spoken with a very competent tax attorney who served as an attorney for the IRS for five (5) years. I described to him some of the possibilities of forming and IBC with offshore accounts etc... and everything that's legitimate in the way of paying taxes .... he asked me some more questions and after he had enough information to process he told me "don't do it, you'll end up in prison ... trust me". He further suggested I be an American and pay my taxes as I should. He indicated the federal income tax would be 35% and my state 5% ... I nearly died. How does Uncle Sam sleep at night raping his own countrymen of their hard-earned profits? 40% - this attorney scared #$!& out of me with talk of prison time. I know I'm going to catch a lot of flack from posting this but info is info ... the dude was an IRS attorney for 5 years... he knows what he's talking about.

[Adam Montana]

This is all great information. I've recently spoken with a very competent tax attorney who served as an attorney for the IRS for five (5) years. I described to him some of the possibilities of forming and IBC with offshore accounts etc... and everything that's legitimate in the way of paying taxes .... he asked me some more questions and after he had enough information to process he told me "don't do it, you'll end up in prison ... trust me". He further suggested I be an American and pay my taxes as I should. He indicated the federal income tax would be 35% and my state 5% ... I nearly died. How does Uncle Sam sleep at night raping his own countrymen of their hard-earned profits? 40% - this attorney scared #$!& out of me with talk of prison time. I know I'm going to catch a lot of flack from posting this but info is info ... the dude was an IRS attorney for 5 years... he knows what he's talking about.

"Don't do it, you'll go to jail"?

I don't care what or who he is or was, that's horrible advice.

Heck, MITT ROMNEY is on stage vying for the Presidency and he admits he has offshore accounts. (I'm not vouching for Mitt, I'm just using him as one of many examples.)

If this "former IRS" person you spoke to is correct, why isn't Mitt in jail already? In fact, why isn't Google, Microsoft, and many many more companies and people in jail?

The answer is simple... it's because your "former IRS" person is either:

a: full of it

b: trying to sell you something else

c: has no idea what they are talking about

or perhaps

d: is completely incompetent and that's why they are a former IRS agent.

But above all else, this is the part that bothers me:

"don't do it, you'll end up in prison ... trust me".

Don't ever trust someone that uses those words. Trust the people that give you reason to trust them.

That's my ... good luck to you if you decide to keep accepting that person's advice.

Also, he neglected to tell you about AMT. Your tax will be MORE than 40%.

Sleep well!

[quadkidd1]

"Don't do it, you'll go to jail"?

I don't care what or who he is or was, that's horrible advice.

Heck, MITT ROMNEY is on stage vying for the Presidency and he admits he has offshore accounts. (I'm not vouching for Mitt, I'm just using him as one of many examples.)

If this "former IRS" person you spoke to is correct, why isn't Mitt in jail already? In fact, why isn't Google, Microsoft, and many many more companies and people in jail?

The answer is simple... it's because your "former IRS" person is either:

a: full of it

b: trying to sell you something else

c: has no idea what they are talking about

or perhaps

d: is completely incompetent and that's why they are a former IRS agent.

But above all else, this is the part that bothers me:

Don't ever trust someone that uses those words. Trust the people that give you reason to trust them.

That's my ... good luck to you if you decide to keep accepting that person's advice.

Also, he neglected to tell you about AMT. Your tax will be MORE than 40%.

Sleep well!

Go to five different guys and you'll get five different opinions...

Go to jail..... I dont think so

Quad

[Adam Montana]

Go to five different guys and you'll get five different opinions...

Go to jail..... I dont think so

Quad

You betcha

It frightens me how many "former IRS agents" are simply selling their own wares or peddling ten cent domestic trusts that won't hold up past the first court date. A lot of people are steered wrong by washed up attorneys and even "former IRS agents"... but I guess those people have to make a buck too.

[Mak63]

I think you could say that geese are smart, and they would never poo poo in their own nest. Otheriwise, they need to find a new nest, and there isn't another one out there in gooseland.

Exactly right madam!!!

Mak63

[Mammaw]

"Don't do it, you'll go to jail"?

I don't care what or who he is or was, that's horrible advice.

Heck, MITT ROMNEY is on stage vying for the Presidency and he admits he has offshore accounts. (I'm not vouching for Mitt, I'm just using him as one of many examples.)

If this "former IRS" person you spoke to is correct, why isn't Mitt in jail already? In fact, why isn't Google, Microsoft, and many many more companies and people in jail?

The answer is simple... it's because your "former IRS" person is either:

a: full of it

b: trying to sell you something else

c: has no idea what they are talking about

or perhaps

d: is completely incompetent and that's why they are a former IRS agent.

But above all else, this is the part that bothers me:

Don't ever trust someone that uses those words. Trust the people that give you reason to trust them.

That's my ... good luck to you if you decide to keep accepting that person's advice.

Also, he neglected to tell you about AMT. Your tax will be MORE than 40%.

Sleep well!

I agree with Adam (reminds me of a show I once saw...LOL). Not too long ago, I worked for one of the top Fortune 500 Companies and they went off shore and created another company to be able to pay employees in other countries. There was a lot less red tape. This isn't new, it is however something that goes on all the time, and is considered good business. For some "person" to indicate you will go to jail if you do it...is rediculous. It is good business. And for those who choose to go in this direction, well, more power to you. If I had the funds I would do it in a heart beat.

[Adam Montana]

I agree with Adam (reminds me of a show I once saw...LOL). Not too long ago, I worked for one of the top Fortune 500 Companies and they went off shore and created another company to be able to pay employees in other countries. There was a lot less red tape. This isn't new, it is however something that goes on all the time, and is considered good business. For some "person" to indicate you will go to jail if you do it...is rediculous. It is good business. And for those who choose to go in this direction, well, more power to you. If I had the funds I would do it in a heart beat.

Forming a legitimate, high quality IBC to conduct business offshore can run anywhere from $2500 to over $10,000. If you're saving more than that, and getting additional protection, then it's obviously well worth the cost.

Goodpost Mawmaw, thanks for backing me up.

(If you haven't seen our Name Reserve option... it's a heck of a lot cheaper than the full deal, but gets your foot in the door so you can benefit from the IBC strategy. Check into it if you haven't yet!)