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Krome...we don't always agree...but in this case, you knocked it out of the park. well said :twothumbs::tiphat:

And here is one of the greatest songs to supplement it....and if you don't understand why, then no one can explain it to ya....World Peace is where it's at.

Sorry Tiff, but this is one we do disagree with.

The speach was about freedom with out intervention of government.

Lenon's "Imagine," though a very good tune, is truely socialistic.

No religion.

No possessions.

Means no freedom.

Sorry too, MrDinarman, but the speach does not preach socialism.

In fact, there is a Ron Paul ad with this speach attatched.

Give it another listen.

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I humbly disagree but appreciate the respectfulness of your answer.

As a Buddhist, we are taught to not let possessions possess us. Meaning if you are too worried about losing something, then you can't enjoy it. If you buy that new Corvette, but always park it in the back parking lot because you are afraid it will get ding...or stolen...then you live in fear.

Having no religion was not a slap against believers, it means that if we didn't have different points of religion, where mine is considered wrong and yours is the only way...then we may just get along on this ball of mud..to have our own bit of paradise here...as in being able to co-exist.

What is freedom? The Native Americans had very little possessions, but they lived off the land, and the land gave them food and shelter to live on..and they were VERY happy and grateful....in my book, that is truly Freedom.

Socialism to me means that some work, but all end up getting the same regardless. That's not what Imagine is about...really

Tiff :)

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What is freedom? The Native Americans had very little possessions, but they lived off the land, and the land gave them food and shelter to live on..and they were VERY happy and grateful....in my book, that is truly Freedom.

Tiff -

Really? Happy and Grateful?? Which ones, the chief or his little indian wife? Women had O "rights", children were sacrificed, and MANY (No, not all) of the tribes THROUGHOUT the "Indigeneous" country (from sea to shining sea) were vicious WARRIORS. They valued HONOR, so they got extra points for touching their enemy with the "coup" stick BEFORE KILLING THEM!

I grew up in Arizona, and the Apaches - well, they could run 70 miles in a day without the proverbial "water bag", sneak up like they were ghosts, and killed every white they could, and other native "americans". Most did not even know what happened, and those that did heard an unearthly fierce screaming from the intensity of the war party (the "rebel yell" which was fearsome, attempted to mimic this war cry) which was worse than dying silently!

They worshipped demonic spirits (they still have snake dances in AZ., albeit without venomous rattlers (which is what the Indians actually did). THIS WHOLE "Co-exist" mentality is something that works in the textbooks, but not with EVIL in the world. If you do not subscribe to the reality of GOOD and EVIL, then it all looks good, and we will all sing Kumbaya while holding hands.

However, you better keep your eye on the dude with the funny look in his eye - He is looking at your daughter with "an unearthly" look! And his reality is different from yours! He is a taker, and who are you to decide your rules are better than his!

The "natives" lived in a Social Order, like all of us do. Some good things, many bad things. It depended on who you were in the pecking order. I would not classify the women and children as valued in themselves, only what they could bring to the order!

Freedom is defined by each individual, and unless there is some sense of God and HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, we all think we decide our own reality. One day, that reality will be challenged and we will face the ONE TRUE GOD to make an account. None of us is capable of defining the reality of our existence BY OURSELVES (except foolishly), for when we do, we put ourselves in the place of God and risk the self-denial that our existence does NOT GO BEYOND the realm of what you can touch and see, the physical realm, and that we will make an account of our lives to our creator! I assure you it does, and we will all discover this. We Westerners don't like the idea of ultimate accountability nor do we like Absolute Truth!

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If you buy that new Corvette, but always park it in the back parking lot because you are afraid it will get ding...or stolen...then you live in fear.

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I disagree. I love my truck and paid good money for it. To me it's about taking care of what I paid hard earned money for. I was hit in a parking lot, to me it's called learning a lesson not fear. :)

I did the same thing with a old toyota truck too. Cause people park to close. I'm a fairly big guy and need to be able to open the door. I found it more convenient to park in the back 40. :)

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Hope this clears it up a bit for you MrDinarman.

The speach is from the movie "The Great Dictator."

Here is the back story of the movie and the true intent of the speach content.

The Great Dictator

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The Great Dictator

Directed by

Charlie Chaplin

Wheeler Dryden

Produced by

Charlie Chaplin

Written by

Charlie Chaplin

Starring

Charlie Chaplin

Paulette Goddard

Jack Oakie

Music by

Charlie Chaplin

Meredith Willson

Distributed by

United Artists

Release date(s)

October 15, 1940

Running time

124 min.

Country

United States

Language

English

Budget

$2,000,000

The Great Dictator is a comedy film by Charlie Chaplin released in October 1940. Like most Chaplin films, he wrote, produced, and directed, in addition to starring as the lead. Having been the only Hollywood film maker to continue to make silent films well into the period of sound films, this was Chaplin's first true talking picture as well as his most commercially successful film.[1] More importantly, it was the first major feature film to bitterly satirize Nazism and Adolf Hitler.

At the time of its first release, the United States was still formally at peace with Nazi Germany. Chaplin's film advanced a stirring, controversial condemnation of Hitler, fascism, antisemitism, and the Nazis, whom he excoriates in the film as "machine men, with machine minds and machine hearts".

Plot

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The film begins during a battle of World War I. The protagonist is an unnamed Jewish private (Charlie Chaplin), a barber by profession, and is fighting for the Central Powers in the army of the fictional nation of Tomainia (an allusion to ptomaine poisoning), comically blundering through the trenches in combat scenes. Upon hearing a fatigued pilot pleading for help, the private attempts to rescue the exhausted officer, Commander Schultz (Reginald Gardiner). The two board Schultz's nearby airplane and fly off, escaping enemy fire in the nick of time. Schultz reveals that he is carrying important dispatches that could win the Tomainian war. However, the plane loses fuel and crashes in a marsh. They both survive, but the private suffers from memory loss. As medics arrive, Commander Schultz gives them the dispatches, but is told that the war has just ended and Tomainia lost.

The scene cuts to victory celebrations, newspaper headlines, the hospitalization and release of the private, and to a speech given twenty years later by Adenoid Hynkel (cf. Adolf Hitler), also played by Chaplin, now the ruthless dictator of Tomainia, who has undertaken to persecute Jews throughout the land, aided by Minister of the Interior Garbitsch (compare Joseph Goebbels, played by Henry Daniell) and Minister of War Herring (compare Hermann Göring, played by Billy Gilbert). The symbol of Hynkel's fascist regime is the "double cross" (compare the Nazi swastika) and Hynkel himself speaks in a macaronic parody of the German language (reminiscent of Hitler's own fiery speeches), "translated" at humorously obvious parts in the speech by an overly concise English-speaking news voice-over.

Chaplin as "The Phooey", Adenoid Hynkel

The Jewish private/barber had been hospitalized for the past twenty years, having suffered memory loss from the plane crash, and is blissfully unaware of Hynkel's rise to power. He returns to his barbershop in the Jewish ghetto and is shocked when storm troopers paint "Jew" on the windows of his shop. In his ensuing slapstick scuffle with the stormtroopers, Hannah (Paulette Goddard), a beautiful resident of the ghetto, knocks both Stormtroopers on the head with a frying pan. The barber finds a friend and ultimately a love interest in Hannah. Soon, the barber is attacked by Stormtroopers, but is saved when Commander Schultz, now a high official in Hynkel's government, intervenes. Schultz recognizes the barber (who is reminded of the war by Schultz and therefore gets his memory back). Though surprised to find him a Jew, Schultz orders the storm troopers to leave him and Hannah alone.

Hynkel, in addition, has relaxed his stance on Tomainian Jewry in an attempt to woo a Jewish financier into giving him a loan to support his regime. Egged on by Garbitsch, Hynkel has become obsessed with the idea of world domination. In one famous scene, Hynkel dances with a large, inflatable globe, while thinking of being Emperor of the world to the tune of the Prelude to Act I of Richard Wagner's Lohengrin at the end of which it suddenly pops in his hands.

On Garbitsch's advice, Hynkel has planned to invade the neighboring country of Osterlich (compare Österreich, German for Austria) and needs the loan to finance the invasion. When the Jewish financier refuses, Hynkel reinstates and intensifies his persecution of the Jews. Schultz voices his objection to the pogrom and shows his empathy towards Jews; Hynkel denounces Schultz as a supporter of democracy and a traitor, and orders him placed in a concentration camp. Schultz flees to the ghetto and begins planning to overthrow the Hynkel regime.

Schultz, along with the barber, Hannah, and other members of the ghetto, meet to discuss their subversive plot. Schultz announces that in order to decide who will carry out a suicide mission to blow up Hynkel's palace, he has placed a coin in one of five puddings, and the person who receives the one with the coin in it is to carry out the mission. However, Hannah instead placed a coin in every dessert, leading to one of Chaplin's most comical scenes. Ultimately, all decide it is best to heed Hannah's advice not to attempt the suicide mission. After trying to evade the storm troopers, both Schultz and the barber are captured and condemned to the camp.

Chaplin with Jack Oakie as "Benzino Napaloni"

Hynkel is initially opposed by Benzino Napaloni (a portmanteau of Benito Mussolini, Napoleon Bonaparte, and benzene, played by Jack Oakie), dictator of Bacteria, in his plans to invade Osterlich. Hynkel invites Napaloni to talk the situation over in Tomainia, and attempts to impress Napaloni with a display of military might and psychological warfare. He invites Napaloni to a military show. The show turns out to be a disaster. After some friction, and a comedic food fight between the two leaders, a deal is made. Hynkel immediately breaks the deal, and the invasion proceeds again. Hannah had emigrated to Osterlich to escape Hynkel, but once again finds herself living under Hynkel's regime.

Schultz and the barber escape from the camp wearing Tomainian uniforms. Border guards mistake the barber for Hynkel, to whom he is nearly identical in appearance. Conversely, Hynkel, on a duck-hunting trip, falls overboard and is mistaken for the barber and is arrested by his own soldiers.

The barber, now assuming Hynkel's identity, is taken to the capital of Osterlich to make a victory speech. Garbitsch, in introducing "Hynkel" to the throngs, decries free speech and argues for the subjugation of the Jews. The barber then makes a rousing speech, reversing Hynkel's anti-Semitic policies and declaring that Tomainia and Osterlich will now be a free nation and a democracy. He calls for humanity in general to break free from dictatorships and use science and progress to make the world better instead.[2]

Hannah hears the barber's speech on the radio, and is amazed when "Hynkel" addresses her directly: "Hannah, can you hear me? Wherever you are, look up, Hannah. The clouds are lifting. The sun is breaking through. We are coming out of the darkness into the light. We are coming into a new world, a kindlier world, where men will rise above their hate, their greed and brutality. Look up, Hannah. The soul of man has been given wings, and at last he is beginning to fly. He is flying into the rainbow—into the light of hope, into the future, the glorious future that belongs to you, to me, and to all of us. Look up, Hannah. Look up". Hannah looks up with an optimistic smile.[3

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Hardmoney babe...you are suffering from both time and location bias...that is, during the time period that you are talking about...where women didn't have any rights and babies were sacrifices in the Native American culture...is that 1700 or 1970s?

Here is a history of genocides: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history

Read thru it...the white christians were responsible for killing 80-90% of both Northern and Southern American Natives. Oh and what exactly were the white men doing to the black women during that same time period...when they weren't working them 7 days a week in the cotton fields they were r*ping them while the white women in the big house looked the other way. And let's talk a bit about the holier than thou white man during the same time period...crusades, witch hunts, Spanish inquisition, slavery...yea...great role models.

Ok, the Apaches were one of the most aggressive tribes in American history...similar to the Comanche....I will agree 100%...brave warriors and didn't take crap from anyone. But what about the Navaho or the Hopi tribes, they were very docile and friendly. Like comparing the ancient Romans to the Greeks.

You can read more about each tribe here: http://www.kidinfo.com/american_history/native_americans.html

Bottomline, I would much preferred being a Native American woman throughout most of the last 300 years than been a white woman. You can't compare today's standards to yesteryears...to do so is frankly morally insensitive and factually evasive.

Peace

Tiff :)

P.S. Fast sweetie...pick-ups don't even look good until u get a scratch or two...if u tell the lads at the bar that u are teary eyed because u dinged up your new Ford...they would first laugh you out of the bar and then probably go key it to get u over being such a pansy...really. Try it if u don't believe me. :P

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I humbly disagree but appreciate the respectfulness of your answer.

As a Buddhist, we are taught to not let possessions possess us. Meaning if you are too worried about losing something, then you can't enjoy it. If you buy that new Corvette, but always park it in the back parking lot because you are afraid it will get ding...or stolen...then you live in fear.

Having no religion was not a slap against believers, it means that if we didn't have different points of religion, where mine is considered wrong and yours is the only way...then we may just get along on this ball of mud..to have our own bit of paradise here...as in being able to co-exist.

What is freedom? The Native Americans had very little possessions, but they lived off the land, and the land gave them food and shelter to live on..and they were VERY happy and grateful....in my book, that is truly Freedom.

Socialism to me means that some work, but all end up getting the same regardless. That's not what Imagine is about...really

Tiff :)

You said as a Buddhist??? I better stop here, good luck, God bless...

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You said as a Buddhist??? I better stop here, good luck, God bless...

Yup Sugar...did I stutter? You have been walking on the fringes for a while...either engage me with an intellectual challenge or read and pass on...don't be a little fence sitter and make snide remarks from the sideline. I think you are scared to take a stand on anything I write...if not, bring it on Big Guy....I'm your huckleberry

luv ya Tiff :)

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When I saw the title of the post I KNEW it was this speech. Its a good one! And no I am absolutely not a socialist. It makes sense. Especially the times we are in. Actually when you go to Youtube and you type in "The Greatest Speech Ever Made," this speech pops up many times. The actual scene from the movie and the impassioned way he delivers the speech is very powerful.

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Yup Sugar...did I stutter? You have been walking on the fringes for a while...either engage me with an intellectual challenge or read and pass on...don't be a little fence sitter and make snide remarks from the sideline. I think you are scared to take a stand on anything I write...if not, bring it on Big Guy....I'm your huckleberry

luv ya Tiff :)

No need to argue with you!!! No need to engage you!!! Why would I be scared? hahahhahaaha you crack me up!!! Are you kidding? You wish I was your huckleberry....Stop being funny......I have only one question: Why do you hate men???

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No need to argue with you!!! No need to engage you!!! Why would I be scared? hahahhahaaha you crack me up!!! Are you kidding? You wish I was your huckleberry....Stop being funny......I have only one question: Why do you hate men???

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]Sweetie, I don't, however, to the untrained eye, it may appear that way. What I'm doing is shedding light on what actually took place in history. When someone comes in and tries to put a “holier than thou spin” on their race/sex/religion, I feel obligated to shed the light of truth on their account. In this form, which is dominated by conservative, white, males, they seem overly opinionated and like to back slap each other and think their God's gift to the universe. The truth, as presented in my hotlinks show a far different reality. Men by far (pretty much all) have committed the majority of genocides throughout history. Can you deny that?

White people (the vast majority being Christian) killed off the majority of both native Northern and Southern Americans...either directly via war and colonization or via introduction of diseases such as small pox. White people also enslaved the black people of Africa, directly engaged the Muslims in the Crusades, and were responsible for both the Spanish Inquisition and the witch hunts. I also get a kick out of how white men think that they were so nice that they just handed over the right to vote for women. When in fact it took over 300 years…here is the history of women suffrage; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage

And of course, it took a little thing called the Civil war before the black race was free.

Yes, the white Christian male of today has come a long way from who he was even 30 years ago…and for the rest of the world that isn’t white…I think they would all agree it’s about time. Pls note, this source states that the white population will plummet to single digits by 2060. And the majority will fall into the minority. Interesting times lay ahead. Go ahead and give me negatives…but at least be “man enough” to tell me where I’m wrong.

As a percentage of world inhabitants, the white population will plummet to a single digit (9.76%) by 2060 from a high-water mark of

27.98% in 1950.

Using 2010 as the base reference, the big gainer in the population

derby will be blacks or sub-Sahara Africans. This group will expand

almost 133% to 2.7 billion by 2060. By the middle of this century

blacks will represent 25.38% of world population, which is up

dramatically from the 8.97% they recorded in 1950.

The big population story of the 21st Century is shaping up to be the

status reversal of whites and blacks and the Indian baby boom. A side

bar will be the single digit minority role that whites will assume. Of

the 7 population groups studied, only whites are projected to sustain

an absolute decline in numbers.

In 1950 whites and blacks were respectively 27.98% and 8.97% of world

population. By 2060 these figures will almost reverse as blacks surge

to 25.38% and whites shrink to 9.76%. From 2010 the white population

will decline while blacks will add 1.2 billion to their numbers. In

this time frame the the Indian subcontinent will gain 1.2 billion

people. These groups and their governments will be looking for elbow

room, and the diminished presence of whites in Europe, and especially

in the relatively wide open spaces North America, will provide such an

opportunity. Specifically, countries like Canada, the United States,

Argentina, Brazil, Australia, New Zealand, and Russia can expect to be

pressured to accept collectively hundreds of millions of refugees from

India, and sub-Sahara Africa.

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sci.med.nursing/browse_thread/thread/0b5a1cbd78b8885c

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Yup Sugar...did I stutter? You have been walking on the fringes for a while...either engage me with an intellectual challenge or read and pass on...don't be a little fence sitter and make snide remarks from the sideline. I think you are scared to take a stand on anything I write...if not, bring it on Big Guy....I'm your huckleberry

luv ya Tiff :)

Tiff my lovely friend please remember some will understand,or respect others views only if they are open to do so. Take care

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