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  1. Can't log in this morning and it looks like the backstage pass area isn't listed now. I think the whole thing is backstage pass now. Very disappointing. One of my favorite things about this site was the section where all the conference calls phone numbers were listed for different groups and especially the replay numbers. Can anyone recap these numbers here for us? That would be awesome!!
  2. A dozen SUV's?? You must have been standing there to count these? I don't think so - and do you know all of the rules for who gets raided and who gets the letter? Let's stick to the facts.
  3. I see Rudy says he talked to Brad and Brad is calling this a compliance issue. There was no arrest. I for one am giving Brad the benefit of the doubt. I am a faithful listener to the BH calls and strongly believe Brad is a man of integrity! You also won't find anyone more knowledgeable than Rudy! I believe when the dust settles that Brad will remain a strong leader in dinarland with a heart to help as many people as possible. This is just another loop in the rollercoaster ride before arriving at the gate!
  4. The above is wrong and can be proven by many different scriptures, taken in context. One such scripture I just read today: Matthew 24:24 (talking about the end of the world time period - Matt. 24 verse 3) "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." For there to be the false, there has to be the true. Great signs and wonders by false prophets show me that God's people will do the miraculous. Jesus said "Greater works than these shall he do...". Acts 21:10 talks of the PROPHET Agabus who prophesied to Paul of what would happen to him in Jerusalem. This happened AFTER Jesus Christ died and what you interpret 1 Corin. 13:10 as meaning is proven incorrect. We must not discount the true on the basis that there is so much false!!
  5. Where is your prophet definition stated in the Bible? Where is the grace you have given for failed prophesy stated in the Bible? I am not talking about man and his mistakes. I am talking "here is what the Lord said". There is no practicing for "thus saith the Lord". God's words are too vital for the error that has become accepted by many. That is unscriptural to say that when God wants to speak through someone that it needs to be "mastered", or giving grace for immaturity. Please show a Biblical example for this. There are prophets today who never make a mistake when it comes to speaking exactly what God said. They mislead noone because they hear God's voice. George may not be a prophet, but he prophesied what appears to be a false word which should never happen. If we look back after the rv and find out something did happen during the time frame George gave (and we didn't know it till later) and the rate is between $3.87 - $3.89, we could judge this differently.
  6. Possum, I don't read all of your posts, but you certainly have added some comic relief to this journey! I will look back at you with fond memories... This roller coaster ride wouldn't be the same without you hooping and hollering with your hands in the air in the seat behind me!
  7. I disagree that man can change a true prophesy. God knows the beginning from the end. He knows exactly what will happen in the future, everything included! A true prophesy will be fulfilled exactly as it was prophesied. The only exception (and it is really not an exception) is if God changes His mind and the only Biblical example of this is it will happen prior to the expiration of the first Word if a time frame was given and never after, In 2 Kings Chapter 20, King Hezekiah was sick unto death. God sent Isaiah to tell him to set his house in order because he would die. King Hezekiah prayed and wept, and God changed his mind. He sent Isaiah back (in this case right away) and told him He heard his prayers, saw his tears, and would give him 15 more years to live.
  8. This will be proved. It is either a true prophesy and the word will come to pass accurately, or it was a false prophesy, and the rv will show up at a different rate or date. I am not sure about Quantum Touch. I know that God created our bodies to have an energy in them, but I also know that a spiritual line can be crossed in some of these things where the spiritual component is not coming from God. I hope that this isn't one of them.
  9. Well, when this RV pops, if it isn't on the 29th of the month, or between $3.87 - $3.89, it was a false prophesy. We can only take the word how it was given. Why God wouldn't give the exact date, I don't know, but He would have a reason. When you have seen and experienced the true, noone can tell you that it doesn't exist - whether it be a prophesy, healing, or anything else of the Lord.
  10. I just went to relisten to George's dinar prophesy. His wording was "end of May, first of June, or the 29th". He then said something about not understanding why these dates including May 29. I am wondering if George just felt "May 29" and really the word from the Lord was just "29th." George also said rate would be between $3.87 - $3.89. I had a very interesting eye catching moment this morning. As I was driving past Sheetz, the gas price for regular gas was missing (must be in process of changing), but the only price listed there was the premium price of $3.89! Can't wait to see what this June 29th brings!!
  11. In the story of Ahab, God did make the change, but again, it was prior to any expiration of the first prophesy. Never in the Bible did God allow for a true prophesy to "just fail" or a change to be made after a time frame was given. Hmmm, was George Robinson's prophesy of the 29th, June 29???
  12. Me too! Lots to learn!! I also thought about those scriptures where God allowed for changes. In these instances, though, the change was made prior to the expiration of the fulfillment of the first word.
  13. I appreciated the scripture you listed and back up to Deut. 18:21 & 22: "And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him." Wow, backing up to verse 20 causes one to see the seriousness: "But the prophet which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die." I notice there was no room at all for error. I understand that this is old testament, but show me just one place in the new testament that allows for prophesy to not come to pass. I am not talking about Charasmatic teaching, but Bible teaching.
  14. Sam T, When I asked you to show me mistakes from Scripture, I meant where someone honestly thought they heard God and then spoke something that He did not tell them to speak. In the examples you gave with Jonah and Moses, they both heard what God actually said and then did something different. I would say both examples are very clear on what God actually spoke.
  15. For a Christian, the final and only authority is the Word of God. I happen to believe the King James Version is a translation that is accurate. When translations have different meanings, there is a major problem. That won't be the focus of this post, though! Sam T, please show me one example of a Biblical true prophet just making a mistake or needing to practice as the Charismatic movement teaches - or show me a prophesy that was just a mistake and that was ok with God. (There is a big difference between Charismatics and Pentecostals.) I don't know of anywhere that this is taught in scripture. Correct me if I am wrong. It is an awesome responsibility to give a Word from God! God's Word talks about words coming from God or man's own heart. If you don't know that a word is from God, you shouldn't ever speak it! Those of us who are not prophets, but are Christian, are to covet to prophesy. There is a hearing God's voice and His voice will not change. When God told Jonah to go to Ninivah, he didn't not go because he wasn't sure it was God speaking. I absolutely believe there are true prophets today! When they speak, a person can count on it being the voice of God. That said, I am not sure about George Robinson. Will something happen June 29? Did something happen May 29, end of May, or beginning of June that isn't known to us yet? I don't think the words that George said the Lord spoke are able to be discerned completely yet and I am not talking about what George "thought" the interpretation meant. Will that rate be $3.87 - $3.89?
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