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  1. It really is very interesting what people choose to believe. Look....

    - Who is accusing Romney of lying ? ..........all happen to be supporters of O, of UAW, and of direct jobs in Ohio. In other words, these have a vested interest in maintaining a positive outlook for the status quo.

    - Chrysler itself does not directly dispute what Romney said. Their response only mentions that current Jeep assembly lines in U.S. will not be shut down. (will they be slowed, and/or for how long does that hold true?)

    - A robust response would include that the Jeeps for worldwide distribution would come from current assembly lines here in U.S. That was NOT said.

    - Romney knows the auto industry extremely well. He knows what he has said is truly what Chrysler was in the process of thinking/doing, and he has given them pause.

    Cris, this could really go all day.... LOL

    eastcreek, Chrysler is calling Romney a liar. They tried setting him straight but he only toned it down. Romney said he wanted no part of the auto industry as a young man and decided on other business besides his father's.

    But, you don't see that building a plant, in another country means more jobs for them, not the U.S..

    If they can't compete in China sells from abroad and want to expand - that's business. Has nothing to do with the U.S. - Ford builds in several other countries. Toyota build in the U.S. for U.S. sales. Show some smarts.

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  2. simple .. do you trust this guy at the washington post to print an unbiased opinion on anything .. you do know this is printed on the "opinion page " of the washinton post

    hers more from this clown >>>> greg sargent >>>> http://www.redstate.com/erick/tag/greg-sargent/

    let me know if you need any more on the charactor you so much love and adore his writings and opinions

    here is greg sargent googled >>>> http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=post&section=post&do=reply_post&f=7&t=132601

    Is something seriously wrong with you? I've told you several times to see Chrysler. Get the straight story. My link

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  3. Oh, I get it now...they're only gonna start making all the "pretty people" that make the advertisement for their "cars" in China.

    Simple, what does "models" mean to you. Seriously.

    Jeeps are a big market in China. They'd like to eventually make all Chrysler 'models' for sales in China. Models means more than jeeeeeeps. Sorry for the exaggeration of jeeps!Chrysler

    “We’ve grown much stronger in Asia to make up or compensate for some of the difficulties in Europe,” Manley said. Europe will be in “very difficult, tough times” through at least 2013, he said.

    Boosted by strong demand for the Grand Cherokee and Compass sport-utility vehicles, Jeep sales in China have more than doubled to 33,463 this year through September. The brand topped total deliveries for all of 2011 by July of this year.

    Chrysler’s 2014 international sales target is “certainly within reach,” Manley said. The European auto market is on track to plunge in 2012 by the most in 19 years, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association.

    Yep....They got ya on the run.... :D

    No getting around it simple....Romney is still right

    LOL right about Chrysler looking to build a plant for jeep production in China but not to move U.S. jeep production to Chinnnnna. Not losing any jobs in the states, hiring 1,110 more.

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  4. DUDE IM TELLING YOU YOU CANNOT TRUST THE LEFT WING IN AMERICA ..

    i watched joy global over the past year as they told employees they werent moving to china .. when china is building a plant in china ...5 times the size in franklin pennsylvania ... the layoffs started this past june and still continue .. over half of the employees are gone noe .. chinas new plant opens next year ..coal was regulated out of america .. over what ..global warming scam ..under obamas plan electricity rates would necessarily have to sky rocket .. are obams words ... i watched the chineses come into the joy global mining plant with cameras taking picture all summer .. employees were not alowed cameras inside the plant ..just chinese were . they said this move is good for joy ....ya its good for share holders .. but not the workers .. you dont possibly think obama stepped in to protect american mining jobs do ya ..obama is toast ,, you can bank on that

    SEE CHRYSLER, NOT DEMOCRATS

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  5. Read the whole article...it's very informative....

    "So, let's be real clear here, we are talking about vehicles that will be built in Italy and exported to America. The evidence is clear that Fiat is looking at ways to move production of vehicles from the US to elsewhere, whether it be China or Italy, costing American jobs. This is becoming indisputable, despite outcries from certain parties to the contrary."

    Romney triggered these slanted versions. Read Chrysler's comments about how this started... They have nothing to hide, it's business. Also, shipping back to the states is not the answer. Ford does tha same in other countries. Toyota build car here to keep cost down. Business, this is a scare from Romney from the story he said he read! I posted several times.

    "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Winston Churchill

    LOL DM, yes make all models, not all cars.

    Cris, you gotta love your people :)

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  6. Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

    Fiat is in “very detailed conversations” with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), about making Jeeps in the world’s largest auto market, said Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia. Chrysler hasn’t built Jeeps there since before Fiat took control in 2009.

    The bodies of 2012 Jeep Compass and 2012 Jeep Patriot sports utility vechicles (SUV) move along the assembly line at the Chrysler Group LLC assembly plant in Belvidere, Illinois.

    “The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

    Chrysler, which entered an alliance with Turin, Italy-based Fiat as part of its U.S. government-backed bankruptcy, is relying on growth in China to counter weakness in Europe’s auto market. The automaker is targeting 500,000 annual sales outside North America by 2014, more than triple its overseas deliveries in 2009.

    Chrysler currently builds all Jeep SUV models at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio. Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

    WHY DOES ROMNEY INSIST ON SCARING FOLKS IN OHIO AND MICHIGAN WHEN CHRYSLER SET HIM STRAIGHT!

    Oh, it gets better....

    AUTO BAILOUT BOMBSHELL: Fiat Says Chrysler, Jeep Production May Move to Italy

    Coming hot on the heels of speculation that some Jeep production may be moved to China comes a bombshell from a Bloomberg report. Fiat is now considering moving Chrysler and Jeep production to Italy.

    Except move is not the word, returning production is the line. Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

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  7. id be careful about posting anything that comes out of the left wing of the united states ..they do advertise their lies constantly till the truth comes out .. then in a breif statement in on some back page they retract their statements .. and from that point on they never will talk about it again ,, by that time they have a hundred more lies out and about splashing the untruths throughout society .. till the truth comes out about them .. it never ends ..

    if romney says this will happen you can take it to the bank

    LOL, Comes from Chrysler over a story that Romney read from Chrysler and made a story of it himself. LOL YOU ARE AMAZING!!!! THE COMPANY CHRYSLER - NOT LEFT WING

    On Oct. 22, 2012, at 11:10 a.m. ET, the Bloomberg News report “Fiat Says Jeep® Output May Return to China as Demand Rises” stated “Chrysler currently builds all Jeep SUV models at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio. Manley (President and CEO of the Jeep brand) referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.”

    Despite clear and accurate reporting, the take has given birth to a number of stories making readers believe that Chrysler plans to shift all Jeep production to China from North America, and therefore idle assembly lines and U.S. workforce. It is a leap that would be difficult even for professional circus acrobats.

    Let’s set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China. It’s simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China for the world’s largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation. A careful and unbiased reading of the Bloomberg take would have saved unnecessary fantasies and extravagant comments.

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  8. The politicians are bent on twisting the facts to accommodate their side of the issue. It doesn't make any difference what party affiliation they represent. The "acceptance" of the information is dependent upon ones party affiliation. If my candidate makes a statement about the opposition, no matter how outlandish, I will believe it to be true. Whatever the other candidate says is entirely bias, ridiculous, and incredulous!

    Don't believe everything you hear during a campaign. It's dangerous to your mental health. If it is important to you, do some research and come up with your answer instead of swallowing the "stuff" put out by campaign advertisements and candidates.

    Altercation is between Chrysler and Romney. Mitt Romney ad suggests US auto jobs headed to China.

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  9. Presidential Polls 2012: Gallup Puts Romney Ahead Nationally, in Swing States, and With Early Voters

    LINK

    It’s one week until Election Day, and President Obama is nowhere near where he needs to be to walk away with a second term on November 6. The latest presidential polls show former Governor Romney tied or ahead now in several key states. An average of the national presidential polls according to Real Clear Politics show Romney ahead of Obama nationally, 48% to 47.1%.

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  10. Posted at 10:44 AM ET, 10/30/2012 Link: Deceit without Recourse.

    Romney expands false Jeep-to-China ad campaign

    By Greg Sargent

    Mitt Romney’s new television ad suggesting that the auto bailout will result in American jeep jobs getting shipped to China has been widely pilloried by news organizations, both nationally and in Ohio. The Romney campaign’s response: It is expanding the ad campaign.

    A Dem source familiar with ad buy info tells me that the Romney campaign has now put a version of the spot on the radio in Toledo, Ohio — the site of a Jeep plant. The buy is roughly $100,000, the source says.

    The move seems to confirm that the Romney campaign is making the Jeep-to-China falsehood central to its final push to turn things around in the state. The Romney campaign has explicitly said in the past that it will not let fact checking constrain its messaging, so perhaps it’s not surprising that it appears to be expanding an ad campaign based on a claim that has been widely pilloried by fact checkers.

    The move represents a gamble on Romney’s part. The audacity of this falsehood makes it easier for the Obama camp to raise doubts about Romney’s character, integrity, and honesty — and to make the case that Romney not only failed to support the bailout when Ohio needed it; he’s now lying extensively to cover it up. Yesterday in Ohio, Joe Biden slammed the Romney camp by saying: “Have they no shame?”

    As Steve Benen put it, this episode demonstrates more clearly than any other yet that Romney “believes we’ve entered a post-truth era and the disincentive has disappeared — he can repeat falsehoods with impunity without fear of consequences.”

    This falsehood is particularly pernicious — it plays on people’s fears for their livelihoods. As I noted earlier today, the president of a United Auto Workers local that oversees workers at the Jeep plant says that after Romney first claimed Jeep was moving production to China, the union received a bunch of calls from workers worried about their jobs.

    Ultimately, this may be Romney’s only recourse. It’s the only response Romney has left to the fact that he got it wrong on a policy that helped save an industry linked to one in eight Ohio jobs, and Obama got it right. And who knows — it just might work for him.

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  11. simple - "don't poke the bear" was a friendly warning....divemaster was OBVIOUSLY seeing red (that means mad) and you OBVIOUSLY don't have the good sense to avoid his wrath (that means stupid).

    If my "resolve" isn't up to your standards - well that's fine - I don't say what I say to impress you. If you only see my outcry of concern for my country as biitching - so be it - I REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK. You're a hopeless sycophant...and, I suspect, a TROLL as well.

    And, in typical liberal misogynistic style, you get personal with me - assuming that I need a "good poke" to soothe my hysteria no doubt. A new low even for you. You libtards can try to control your female followers by shifting focus to their "lady parts" but, I can assure you, it doesn't work on a conservative thinking woman.

    Thanks to all who defended the good name - Snotrocket! You're the best ;)

    My apologies SnotRocket, I really didn't know what your message meant especially with your comment about me not answering your question; and I thought I did. No more of the name calling and slinging remarks about intelligence. Again, I don't know what a libtard is except perhaps a rude slanted remark of people who actually have a challenge which isn't cool on any level in retrospect. As far as your other descriptive remarks, I dismiss them, I know I obviously pissed you off.

    I've had the wrath of Dive and he/she has little to offer on actual reality; mostly seems to be a conspirator. But thanks for the heads up!

  12. Simple, Your ignorance has just shifted into stupidity.

    As customary with most Liberals, you have a problem hijacking threads with dribble, taking the subject off track. Jules, trying to keep her thread on track, asked you a pertinent question several times and yet you still haven't/can't answer. Instead, you get nasty and personal with a stupid azz, vulgar question. Because as usual her statement (Don't poke the bear) went over your head. You owe her a sincere apology for your assinine, ignorant personal question.

    DinarM you're out of you're mine. Read the past remarks for on topic discussion. You guys take things off topic constantly and call others out of line. She/he was out of line with her remark to me. Kill it and get back on topic! If she didn't like my elongated answer then that's her problem. I'm not a yes or no man. That's flat-out stupid. She was silly enough to at first glance think they received an average of $60 dollars per household. That's ignorance if you prefer to get personal! Back on topic without the threats and snotty remarks!

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  13. Yeah.....what he said! :D

    Thank you Divemaster....nice to know you have my back. XO

    simple...if you know what's good for you....DON'T POKE THE BEAR!

    BTW...you never did answer my question....is $60,000 per household okay with you? Nevermind...I don't care.

    Thanks Patty - there will always be a place on my shoulder for you. ;)

    What kind of snotty remark was that Snot? And reading is not that difficult. You only biith and have no ability to resolve. Thats it, you have no resolve. Stop your biithing and pats on the back for more silly comments. Do you perhaps need a good poke? ;) i don't poke bears.

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  14. LOL-see crossing the isle to solve issues can be done,but it takes real leaders. Now finding one............... thats the tricky part-Peace

    I see Romney trying the bully aggression as in powerhouse businesses. It will turnout like this administration and one party will quit on him. He can't fire them LOL. Ill play more golf then run for mayor in a couple of years. - peace.

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  15. Honda and nissian built plants in the southern U.S to escape those line line items, to be even more compeitive in U.S auto market. Also they (chrysler)might have announced that the 1100 jobs projected that doesn't make econmic sense with a down market. Car and driver researched car sales reports and found the numbers very misleading.. ;) carandrivers.com/sept-2012-sales-what-the-headlines-don't-tell-you banks are lending to people with lower credit ratings than a few years ago. And we all know who owns most of the banks with bailouts ,and how loaning to lower credit ratings on housing turned out with fannie and mac. Sounds like alot of great deals on repossessions coming out soon. :)

    Shipping will always be a line item, the question is cost applied.

    My link Chrysler Group said profits soared in the third quarter, helped by a remake of its product lineup and the introduction of the Dodge Dart compact sedan.

    The Auburn Hills, Mich., automaker said its net income rose 80% to $381 million compared with the same period a year earlier. Revenue rose 18% to $15.5 billion.

    “We’ve changed the conversation at Chrysler Group,” said Sergio Marchionne, the chief executive of Chrysler. “We have revamped our product lineup with such segment-defining models as the Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Chrysler 300.”

  16. Im saying that Chrysler, Marchionne, and the Liberal press are

    misleading.....So, since the Obama spin machine has now jumped

    on this.....You would be correct, that one candidate (Obama) is lying

    Not about Obama, it's admirable that you, as an Independent, are so protective of a republican candidate that you overlook your own values in honesty. Anyway, it was a good conversation.

  17. Sad thing about this whole mess is "the government using tax payers dollars "sold the toxic chrysler stock to fiat ,at a loss of 2 billion dollars that the U.S tax payers on the hook for. Another obumer success story... Three weeks ago we had G.M motors announced joint partnership with china and we all know where that deal will end up..... :blink: And we all know the chevy volt which obama used millions in research and development shut down asembly lines due to poor sales. <_<

    Totally out of line, but if you post these remarks, provide a link for accuracy of your actual accusations.

    I'll take a stab at that question....

    Because its Marchionne that is stating,

    that he's in negotiations to build Jeeps in China? ;)

    LOL avoiding the implications of job loss remember. You're saying it's okay to mislead, like candidates do?

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  18. Or force China to be a better trading partner.

    Shipping cost is a line line item. Back on topic, why wouldn't Romney back off his distorted version of Chrysler story when asked? He change the ad but still left implication of jobs leaving, funny.

    I am not going to even dignify that with a response. I will however ask you, what do you call what Mr, Obama did to cover up his action in the Libya attack? I believe he was even challenged on the one of the late night shows about lying about Mitt during the debates.......

    See how easily a thread can be hi-jacked or change directions?

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  19. I see, what I meant was the misdirection some try to push the conversation.The Welfare issue should not be about politics for this is national problem. But until SOMEONE has the gonads to step up and try to solve it regardless of party ain't nothing goin to change. Same goes with immigration. We have politicians afraid to upset specific portion s of the population or politicians afraid to lose a portion of they're voting base . We don't have leaders we have panders & appeasers-sad.

    That's something we can agree 100% on! I only see gripes on here which indicates do nothing followers :) And yes, our people on the top are appeasers.

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