Pastor Tom

"Key financial indicators" xcel spreadsheet under Statistical Documents Sorry. Just trying to understand where the issued dinar is...

This looks cut and dry. But, I’m just starring at the spreadsheet wondering if I’m reading it wrong. Please, somebody smarter than me tell me what these numbers mean. Link: http://cbi.iq/index.php?pid=Statistics open spreadsheet and go to cells DH:81 & DH:71 (These could be two hugely important numbers) Cell DH:71 Based on this spreadsheet, how much dinar is OUTSIDE the CBI currently? Cell DH:81 Does this mean the CBI is “holding….sitting on” around 23,000,000,000,000 dinar inside the bank? I've gotta be missing something!!! Help?

BTW, If the above post seems odd or incomplete to you...if you're left scratching your head wondering why these questions don't seem quite right...well, that's OK. Some of you will know exactly where we need more info. Banknotes don't just go into a dark cave never again to be seen. They must remain on the CBI's books until they're delt with AKA they've made a "round trip" home. Ya follow... This nonsense about USFR shredding IDQ and then the CBI sending tankers full of free oil as a thank you gift is slightly on the outlandish side. No?

OK, In order to answer that question, we need answers to these three questions. 1. Do we have articles or verification of any kind that our Federal Reserve is currently holding IQD? 2. Do we have articles or verification of any kind that we will turn in our IQD to the banks who will then sell it to the US Federal Reserve? ...anything acknowledging Dinars specifically? 3. Do we have articles or verification of any kind (other than hypothetical “what if” scenarios working their way around the dinar community) that confirm future/current IQD in the Federal Reserve will be used to buy oil (either at a discount or at future market value) from Iraq until all IQD is spent and made a round trip back to the CBI? A basic, yet helpful definition of a Banknote: “A banknote (often known as a bill, paper money or simply a note) is a kind of negotiable instrument, a promissory note made by a bank payable to the bearer on demand, used as money, and in many jurisdictions is legal tender.” Source: Wikipedia Any research would be appreciated! If we can’t establish from credible & verifiable sources that our Iraqi Dinar has a round trip ticket back to the CBI, then we might just be left tossing our Bellagrits and howling at the moon like a Bluwolf after chasing a Koonce. Nevermind, I may end up the only one laughing at that! Regardless, a little serious help with the above questions would be great? P.S. This really should go under RV & Dinar Questions. But, there seems to be some kind of restriction to me there. Huh?! Clearly this article mentions nothing about the…the unspeakable.

Solid, logical question. Thank you. My primary source of info for establishing this number is the Central Bank of Iraq (link: http://cbi.iq/documents/Annual_2010f.pdf) This report internal report was shows 27 trillion dinar in world wide circulation and growing each fiscal quarter. Both national and international news papers have estimated the number to currently be 28-33 trillion. I have chosen to us 30 trillion dinar in current circulation as a round and safe number. Does anyone have solid info on "petro dollars" or any agreement between the US and Iraq for discount oil paid in dinar? Looking hard for solid info on these topics.

Appreciate this post very much. I'd like to learn more hard info on it if possible. I'm my unqualified and humble opinion. This is the only way we MIGHT slide thru the golden gates of ancient Babylon;) IF...If they (CBI) hold 80-90% of the current dinar in "circulation" and IF the majority of the outstanding dinar is utilized in some sort of "oil for dinars" program (not altogether logical...at all! Iraq pays other countries to take their oil AKA drink of her wine, Rev. 15-17), ...anyway, then we may have a shot! But, it gives me a headache and sticking with basic economics doesn't. But, I'm not an economist. Can we get more info on this? Also can we get ANYTHING on the urban legend of oil or discount oil to pay back the US that my Senitor contact eluded to in passing? It would be much appreciated!

Thanks for all the comments. Just noticed the question about what my thoughts were on this investment paying off. Hmm...well I'll share my perspective while the kids are playing in the Carl's Jr play area. It appears there will most likely be value to your dinars moving forward. I'm not an expert and offer my opinion only. Nothing about my profession or research makes this opinion correct. My internal struggle is that I've prayed my way along this investment. Last summer didn't get involved. Earlier this year I did. Then (still praying) I was planning on buying more likely motivated by big dreams for a christian TV network ie: BET/MTV/Fuel for positive versus negative. Now as of today and the past few days of getting nothing but either agreement or anger from "experts" and fellow members, I'm guessing I'd give this a 5-15% chance of paying us millions. This high a chance, only because 8 years I had a personal & private breakfast with a US Senitor and two time presidential nomony and he said, "this war isn't about weapons of mass destruction. It's about oil and national security. It will NOT cost as much as the average citizen imagines it will"! This man and I aren't close, yes I asked him via e-mail about dinar, he was vague and said there was a lot left to be completed and that he, being retired was out of the loop (I paraphrase). Needless to say I didn't press this well known gentlemen futher. But, his words have always stayed in my mind. So, I give it a 5-15 % chance because maybe, just maybe there is something to this "petrodollar" thing behind the curtain. Anyone know more about that?

Buddy, I'm with you in spirit One2One! I hope so. IF...if this puppy RVs our dinars and they bounce up 1,000 times my church budget will go through the roof! New building, church school and what I hope to be an online youth oriented "Christ Centered BET"...Wow, imagine that! Watch out 50Cent, Jay-Z and Dr. Dre. Pastor Tom is a the war path to have positive out way negative! I can only pray these dreams come true. Plus this brother needs a newer Denali;) Listen ya all, I understand our hopes and dreams on this investment. After rejecting the concept last summer, I got involved this year when a trusted business man I know told me Chase Bank had arranged for a business jet to pick him up when it RV'd and fly him and his invested friends to Houston to cash in with in 24 hrs after the RV. The did "backgrownd checks" and everything! Sounded really interesting and I said, "what the heck, why would Chase arrange for a plane if it wasn't real". I still don't have the answer to that one! But, they have done a backgrownd check on me with my DL# and thankfully not my SS# (don't ever give that out). So, here we are after the Arab Summit RVless. Please read, read some more and search your soul. IF and only if you feel moved by the spirit. Take the info I've given you and press the gurus for answers!!!! I HOPE THEY ARE RIGHT! Make these men back it up! Why are we not making them step to the plate of truthfulness! Let's force the issue before another struggling single mother places hope of millions before the utility bills! If you aren't concerned, move on! We who are involved in lives outside of ourselves care! TIME TO TAKE ACTION!

Quick apology, in my effort to multitask I’ve notice many typos in my posts. Sorry about that. Playing Mr. Mom with my two kids…Legos at the moment. If I might make a suggestion, I have utterly ZERO to do with Kap’s site or conference calls. But his call this Sunday night should be interesting as he is fully aware of this pressing issue. As some of you may have noticed, his position seems to have shifted lately. Huh. Kap (Kaperoni at ********) is in my opinion one of the most fair and level headed “gurus” on this investment. Again, have zero to gain by saying so. I also enjoy Gate Keepers, especially Joey’s news articles. I personally have read over 200 articles in the past 10 days since becoming aware of the number of people around me invested in dinars. Many of them can’t afford the loss of money. But more importantly, they can’t afford the loss of hope and subsequent depression. If you feel moved to raise the challenging issues to the “Gurus”, feel free to cut and paste my post and past on the websites of your choosing. I’m banned at Okie’s and others. Wonder why that is? I’m guessing reasonable questions aren’t good for business. Not when your sponsors are often Dinar brokers with layaway programs and option games. Chior, do what you feel moved to do. Feel free to use my info. P.S. As far as knowing who to believe, start with those not profiting from your loss.

I beleive you are incorrect. My opinion. It seems to me this belongs in Opinions, Perspectives...... But, I'm expecting some flack.

Thank you all for reading this post and considering the thoughts within. I recommend to my brother, Steveflex7, to read my first post and he will see I have been banned on other sites. This is an "Inconvenient Truth". But, thank you for verifying what I'm saying. Folks, if these posts "go away", connect the dots! And now the smear tatics begin! God's speed! Correct! Unfortunately that will be on 30 trillion plus. Keep reading, my good man. I'd appreciate any additional insight you can provide. It will help me personally as I move forward. Thanks much.

Thank you all for the 1,000 plus views and many comments and shared insights to my post early this morning entitled, Delete 3 Zeros? Top 38 Countries have equivalent of $60 Trillion USD in Circulation. COMBINED. While I’d like to exercise faith that the CBI has a sophisticated and purposely vague plan to remove the large denominations in circulation without crushing most Dinarian’s dreams, in reality they have spelled it out to us in the kings English, “WE WILL DELETE 3 ZEROS”. This most likely means that 25,000 dinar will become 25 dinar which will then be RV’d to .00086 per USD or higher and, “gradually raised” from there. What disturbs me deeply is the intentional miss leading of the gurus and websites. With the exception of Kaperoni who seems to be adjusting his views to incorporate some of his readers posts, these gurus appear hell bent on leading the uninformed masses to edge of hysteria followed by a healthy serving of dinar options/layaways. I’m outraged by the prayers and spiritual guises utilized within this community. Folks, I sadly assure you that within this community which potentially consists of 100,000 to 1,000,000 worldwide investors, there are veterans, widows, elderly, disabled private citizens & veterans, uneducated, naïve and otherwise down on their luck people who are spending money they can’t afford to lose on an investment that is suspect at best. I plead with each one of you, if the numbers listed in my article raise concerns in your mind, take this information, research and improve upon it, POST IT ON EVERY WEBSITE, and force these blood sucking ex-timeshare volchers to man up and explain themselves! WE HAVE A GOD GIVEN OBLIGATION TO PROTECT THE LESS FORTUNATE, NAÏVE AND UNEDUCATED. We can make a difference on post at a time. Personally, I still hold dinar that I can afford to lose. I’m still thinking about my exit strategy. However, I refuse to stand idly by, while my brothers and sisters get Okiedoked, Jack Hammered and Bulldogged by these oversized schoolyard bullies into buying more options with next month’s rent money. Search your heart and make a stand! In the spirit of our American forefathers, let drag these goons into the spotlight of truth, because the only thing worth $14.38 is the knock off suit their wearing! Because nothing about MOST of these Gurus is real!

Thank you all for your comments and insight to my post early this morning. While I’d like to exercise faith that the CBI has a sophisticated and purposely vague plan to remove the large denominations in circulation without crushing most Dinarian’s dreams, in reality they have spelled it out to us in the kings English, “WE WILL DELETE 3 ZEROS”. This most likely means that 25,000 dinar will become 25 dinar which will then be RV’d to .00086 per USD or high and again as they have said, “gradually raised” from there. What disturbs me deeply is the intentional miss leading of the gurus and websites. With the exception of Kaperoni who seems to be adjusting his views to incorporate some of his readers posts, these gurus appear hell bent on leading the uninformed masses to edge of hysteria followed by a healthy serving of dinar options/layaways. I’m outraged by the prayers and spiritual guises utilized within this community. Folks, I sadly assure you that within this community which potentially consists of 100,000 to 1,000,000 worldwide investors, there are veterans, widows, elderly, disabled private citizens & veterans, uneducated, naïve and otherwise down on their luck people who are spending money they can’t afford to lose on an investment that is suspect at best. I plead with each one of you, if the numbers listed in my article raise concerns in your mind, take this information, research and improve upon it, POST IT ON EVERY WEBSITE, and force these blood sucking ex-timeshare volchers to man up and explain themselves! WE HAVE A GOD GIVEN OBLIGATION TO PROTECT THE LESS FORTUNATE, NAÏVE AND UNEDUCATED. We can make a difference on post at a time. I still hold dinar that I can afford to lose. I’m still thinking about my exit strategy. However, I refuse to stand idly by, while my brothers and sisters get Okiedoked, Jack Hammered and Bulldogged by these oversized schoolyard bullies into buying more options with next month’s rent money. Search your heart and make a stand! In the spirit of our American forefathers, let drag these goons into the spotlight of truth, because the only thing worth $14.38 is the knock off suit their wearing!

There's a good chance he read a simple e-mail sent to him;) I follow his posts closely. I'm not sure, but something seems to have shifted in his mind. I'm very impressed.

Absolutely. The Central Bank of Iraq has indicated over 30 trillion dinar (www.cbi.iq or many articles from local and international papers). The real questions are how many dinar currently can be found outside the bank and also outside the country. Half? One thirds? Two thirds? If even 2 trillion are in circulation outside the bank it very likely blows this investment into high heavens:( You have to consider that the US only has slightly over $850 billion total in circulation outside of banks at any given moment. I'd really appreciate some sincere help on overcoming the problems this issue presents us.