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A Tribute To The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald ---- Announcer ( ): An air and sea search is continuing for possible survivors of the Edmund Fitzgerald, a 729 foot ore carrier, which apparently broke apart and sunk last night on Lake Superior. The ship and its 29-man crew vanished in a storm with 80 mile-an-hour winds and wave heights up to 25 feet. All that has been found is an oil slick and some debris.-- song begins at -- Radio Transmission ( ): "We last had contact with 'em, the mate had talked to him ... at about 10 minutes after 7, , and he said he was going along fine and no problem."-- Radio Transmission ( ): "But it looks from the information that we have that it's, uh, fairly certain that the, uh, Fitzgerald went down."-- Radio Transmission ( ): "Uh, no, I didn't have him, uh, visually, I had him on radar; he was, uh, exactly 10 miles ahead of us. I asked him how he was making out with his problems and he said he was holding his own, but I, uh, lost contact after that."Lyrics: The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they called "Gitche Gumee" The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty, that big ship and true was a bone to be chewed when the Gales of November came early The ship was the pride of the American side coming back from some mill in Wisconsin As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most with a crew and good captain well seasoned, concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms when they left fully loaded for Cleveland And later that night when the ship's bell rang, could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'? The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound and a wave broke over the railing And ev'ry man knew, as the captain did too 'twas the witch of November come stealin' The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait when the Gales of November came slashin' When afternoon came it was freezin' rain in the face of a hurricane west wind When suppertime came the old cook came on deck sayin' "Fellas, it's too rough t'feed ya" At seven P.M. a main hatchway caved in; he said, "Fellas, it's bin good t'know ya!" The captain wired in he had water comin' in and the good ship and crew was in peril And later that night when 'is lights went outta sight came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald Does any one know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours? The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay if they'd put fifteen more miles behind 'er They might have split up or they might have capsized; they may have broke deep and took water And all that remains is the faces and the names of the wives and the sons and the daughters Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings in the rooms of her ice-water mansion Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams; the islands and bays are for sportsmen And farther below Lake Ontario takes in what Lake Erie can send her, And the iron boats go as the mariners all know with the Gales of November remembered In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed, in the Maritime Sailors' Cathedral The church bell chimed 'til it rang twenty-nine times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they call "Gitche Gumee" "Superior," they said, "never gives up her dead when the gales of November come early" Gordon Lightfoot

I never said YOU went back millions of years...you said "millions of years of evolution"...did you not? Show me where we document humans millions of years ago...I smoke weed and haven't been sick in 30 years.. but what does that have to do with anything? Although it has been proven to promote brain cell growth as well as increasing lung capacity over time, even with daily usage. Do you want to look like an uninformed troll, because I can make that happen with proof. Show me your links....or be prepared to be debunked. I have been in this game for over 20 years....try me. PS..My heritage is traced back to the First KING of Ireland...who became the first man to touch the ground of the land, by cutting his hand off and throwing it onto the land before the ship landed. Research the "Red Hand of Ulster" and then come back and try again peasant. You think I just came on here and woke up? I'll take you on in any debate you want, like I said try me. Many have tried and none have prevailed...do it. R.I.P. NIALL.

You have links to the millions of years...? That would be amazing information if you have it. And no...if you have put in years of research into the bloodlines of the Illuminati, then I might read what you posted. But I know of all the researchers who have dedicated decades of research into the bloodlines, and you are not even close to being in their bloodline. Not even close. Dream on.

Our country has been going through the same crap as yours by the same people. You seem to confuse the Elites as "filthy rich" people, while yes they are Trillionaires, they are more than that. They are of the same bloodline going back before the Egyptians, and they have kept that bloodline intact, they have running things ever since. They believe they are superior to us cattle, and they do hold something we don't have yet...knowledge. (In the Vatican) When you are awake to the truth, you need to first wake your loved ones up and keep spreading the truth by any means. Research anything you don't believe 3 or 7 times until you can't call it a "theory" anymore. Once you are awakened, there is nothing to be afraid of, if you are prepared for what is to come. You bring up violence again, and believe me..I can show you email threats from a few different countries that I received in personal emails they couldn't have known about. Did it stop me?...no. It made me expand my avenues and start using their social media against them. Sure they closed me down on FB, YT, but I just start over and press on. You are correct in starting things locally in your neighborhoods, community gardens are popping up all over, Fluoride is being removed all over in different Towns and Cities, start a local radio show..it is not expensive, start a local paper like Bill Cooper did, make videos of corruption....expose the tyranny. Don't confuse the successful people who work hard, with the Elites, there is a huge difference. Remember...the Royal Family isn't English, Rothschilds (Israel) are not real Jewish people, the Federal Reserve is not American, the IRS is not American. All I would suggest is start researching one subject (banking system) then move onto others and the dots will start to connect back to the same people, no matter what the subject. They are the ones who have the plan to destroy the USA (a corporation) by design...not us. PS - Get a Secured (pre-paid) credit card if you need one for Hotels, car rentals ect...then it is YOUR money you use.

Thanks Hugh, had to run out for groceries (paid cash). Great replies, I see people still confuse the "occupy" movement with the truth movement, but that's ok..the OWS movement can still be awakened further and taken back from the infiltrators. As for the Cancer, how do people feel if they know their loved ones didn't have to die from Cancer.. it should get them pissed off and researching. Chemo is just more money in Rockefellers purse. People complain about no jobs and China this, China that...STOP SHOPPING AT WALMART/doller stores. Stop any use of credit cards is number one...and tax is fine if it goes to our own country. Maybe time to re-post the "Obama Deception" and "Endgame" for a start.. thanks for filling in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Bu9vrN6zY

PS - #7 addition...I am not an American. I am a human. Something that needs to be learned...we are all one. #6 addition....Since I am only here for short periods, I post some stories to see reactions to them, and if some can wake up from them..great, but I REALLY want people to prove me wrong..I want to be wrong. **I doubt anywhere in my years posting and waking people up you would find anything promoting violence, as it is not the answer to anything. We have been lied to for centuries and played like pawns and now you can't travel without getting sexually assaulted or radiated, you no longer have free speech, you are being forced medicated, pensions being cut from people who helped build these countries, our air and water is poisoned, our food is under control of the Elites, your military is being used by the Elites to enact regime change and install Central Banks, so they can continue to control the money and loot us all in debt slavery, they control the news you watch or read, babies are given numerous vaccines forcefully, Veterans are committing suicide more now than ever before, over 600 "resettlement camps" are set up and ready, Big brother is watching more than you know, (Hi), Fusion centers in most cities now, and I could add a few hundred more.....yadda yadda. Non Compliance is the real answer, we don't need "them"...and they know it. Most of the world is waiting, but time is running out. There is no need for one fellow human to be homeless or starving for food...no need at all. Why are most ignoring them? What did they do wrong? They didn't ask to be born, especially into slavery and debt. I know it all sounds like a bad Hollywood movie, but it is reality and we only have one planet as of now...time to take it back. Thanks for the questions TG, I don't dodge any questions, so feel free to ask anything, I will reply. There are many people here with great knowledge who are awake and it is good to see the list growing. In'Lakesh

So I guess you will say the same of Canada? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sbsy90NlCY&feature=related

No, you have not read them all, you only think you have. Twist the story right to "Bush did 9/11"...where did you get that from? Glad because you have met Bush, it clears his name. Thanks. You might never know all the answers, the rest of us will. Where do you have a link showing Bin Laden (Tim Osman, CIA) did 9/11? Osama is classified among among The FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives. However, on the Usama bin Laden page on the FBI website, there is no explicit statement to the effect that he might be wanted in connection to the Septmber 11, 2001 attacks. At eleven o’clock, on the morning of September 11, the Bush administration had already announced that Al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks on the World Trade Center (WTC) and the Pentagon. This assertion was made prior to the conduct of an indepth police investigation conducted by the FBI.. The FBI confirmed in a recent statement (July 2006) that "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on the Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because "the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11" (See the Muckracker Report, See also Enver Masud, FBI: Bin Laden Not Wanted for 9/11? The 'FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11', Wisdom Fund, June 2006). Rex Tom, FBI Director of Investigative Publictiy stated in this regard that “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice then decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.” Why did Bush say he wasn't concerned about Bin Laden only 6 months after 9/11? Oh wait....later in 2004 he said he never said that...so that clears that up. Two words and you got it wrong. Never heard of it? Just the latest of many countries (Malaysia) that have came to the same conclusion. Yeah, lucky 'ol Prescott Bush funded Hitler...oh but you already knew that...you are an American Patriot....

I suggest reading more closely before inserting foot. KUALA LUMPUR, 11 May 2012

Just curious, who do you believe did 9/11, and why do you believe that?

BREAKING: HISTORIC JUDGMENT. Bush & Associates Found Guilty of Torture A solid case for the prosecution of Bush, Blair, Rumsfeld, Cheney, their legal counsel and others, for war crimes, crimes against the peace, torture, and crimes against humanity has been established at the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal with a guilty verdict on day 5 of the third major session of the Tribunal. KUALA LUMPUR, 11 May 2012 (mathaba) The five-panel tribunal unanimously delivered a guilty verdict against former United States President George W. Bush and his associates at the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal hearing that had started on Monday, May 7th. On the charge of Crime of Torture and War Crimes, the tribunal finds the accused persons former U.S. President George W. Bush and his associates namely Richard Cheney, former U.S. Vice President, Donald Rumsfeld, former Defence Secretary, Alberto Gonzales, then Counsel to President Bush, David Addington, then General Counsel to the Vice-President, William Haynes II, then General Counsel to Secretary of Defence, Jay Bybee, then Assistant Attorney General, and John Choon Yoo, former Deputy Assistant Attorney-General guilty as charged and convicted as war criminals for Torture and Cruel, Inhumane and Degrading Treatment of the Complainant War Crime Victims. Earlier in the week, the tribunal heard the testimonies of three witnesses namely Abbas Abid, Moazzam Begg and Jameelah Hameedi. They related the horrific tortures they had faced during their incarceration. The tribunal also heard two other Statutory Declarations of Iraqi citizen Ali Shalal and Rhuhel Ahmed, a British citizen. Testimony showed that Abbas Abid, a 48-year-old chief engineer in the Science and Technology Ministry had his fingernails removed by pliers. Ali Shalal was attached with bare electrical wires and electrocuted and hung from the wall. Moazzam Begg was beaten and put in solitary confinement. Jameelah was almost nude and humiliated, used as a human shield whilst being transported by helicopter. All these witnesses have residual injuries till today. These witnesses were taken prisoners and held in prisons in Afghanistan (Bagram), in Iraq (Abu Gharib, Baghdad International Airport) and two of them namely Moazzam Begg and Rhuhel Ahmed were transported to Guantanamo Bay. In a submission that lasted a day, the prosecution showed in an in depth submission how the decision-makers at the highest level President Bush, Vice-President Cheney, Secretary of Defence Rumsfeld, aided and abetted by the lawyers and the other commanders and CIA officials – all acted in concert. Torture was systematically applied and became an accepted norm. According to the prosecution, the testimony of all the witnesses shows a sustained perpetration of brutal, barbaric, cruel and dehumanizing course of conduct against them. These acts of crimes were applied cumulatively to inflict the worst possible pain and suffering. After hearing the defence of the Amicus Curiae and the subsequent rebuttal the prosecution, the tribunal ruled unanimously that there was a prima facie case made out by the prosecution. After hours of deliberation, the tribunal, in the verdict that was read out by the president of the tribunal Tan Sri Dato Lamin bin Haji Mohd Yunus Lamin, found that the prosecution had established beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused persons, former President George Bush and his co-conspirators engaged in a web of instructions, memos, directives, legal advice and action that established a common plan and purpose, joint enterprise and/or conspiracy to commit the crimes of Torture and War Crimes, including and not limited to a common plan and purpose to commit the following crimes in relation to the “War on Terror” and the wars launched by the U.S. and others in Afghanistan and Iraq: (a) Torture; ( Creating, authorizing and implementing a regime of Cruel, Inhumane, and Degrading Treatment; © Violating Customary International Law; (d) Violating the Convention Against Torture 1984; (e) Violating the Geneva Convention III and IV 1949; (f) Violating the Common Article 3 of the Geneva Convention of 1949. (g) Violating the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the United Nations Charter. The Tribunal finds that the prosecution has established beyond a reasonable doubt that the Accused persons are individually and jointly liable for all crimes committed in pursuit of their common plan and purpose under principles established by Article 6 of the Charter of the International Military Tribunal (the Nuremberg Charter), which states, inter alia, “Leaders, organizers, instigators and accomplices participating in the formulation or execution of a common plan or conspiracy to commit war crimes are responsible for all acts performed by any person in execution of such plan.” The Principles of the Nuremberg Charter and the Nuremberg Decision have been adopted as customary international law by the United Nations. The government of the United States is subject to customary international law and to the Principles of the Nuremburg Charter and the Nuremburg Decision. The Tribunal finds that the prosecution has proven beyond reasonable doubt that the accused lawyers, gave ‘advice’ that “the Geneva Conventions did not apply (to suspected al Qaeda and Taliban detainees); that there was no torture occurring within the meaning of the Torture Convention, and that enhanced interrogations techniques, (constituting cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment,) were permissible.” The prosecution has also established beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused lawyers “knew full well their advice was being sought to be acted upon, and in fact was acted upon, and such advice paved the way for violations of international law, the Geneva Conventions and the Torture Convention.” The accused lawyers’ advice was binding on the accused Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney, each of whom relied on the accused lawyers’ advice. Others, such as CIA Director George Tenet and Diane Beaver, officer in charge at Guantanamo, relied on the accused lawyers’ advice. The prosecution had established beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused lawyers are criminally liable for their acts, and for participating in a joint criminal enterprise. The president read that the Tribunal orders that reparations commensurate with the irreparable harm and injury, pain and suffering undergone by the Complainant War Crime Victims be paid to the Complainant War Crime Victims. While it is constantly mindful of its stature as merely a tribunal of conscience with no real power of enforcement, the Tribunal finds that the witnesses in this case are entitled ex justitia to the payment of reparations by the 8 convicted persons and their government. It is the Tribunal’s hope that armed with the findings of this Tribunal, the witnesses will, in the near future, find a state or an international judicial entity able and willing to exercise jurisdiction and to enforce the verdict of this Tribunal against the 8 convicted persons and their government. The Tribunal’s award of reparations shall be submitted to the War Crimes Commission to facilitate the determination and collection of reparations by the Complainant War Crime Victims. President Lamin read, “As a tribunal of conscience, the Tribunal is fully aware that its verdict is merely declaratory in nature. The tribunal has no power of enforcement, no power to impose any custodial sentence on any one or more of the 8 convicted persons. What we can do, under Article 31 of Chapter VI of Part 2 of the Charter is to recommend to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission to submit this finding of conviction by the Tribunal, together with a record of these proceedings, to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council. The Tribunal also recommends to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission that the names of all the 8 convicted persons be entered and included in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals and be publicized accordingly. The Tribunal recommends to the War Crimes Commission to give the widest international publicity to this conviction and grant of reparations, as these are universal crimes for which there is a responsibility upon nations to institute prosecutions if any of these Accused persons may enter their jurisdictions. link

While on that subject...15 minutes a day in the sun. Do not use sunscreens if possible. Kids especially need the sun for their Vitamin D.

You are right, every plant has a purpose, therefore everything on this planet has a purpose. We know from tribes who still exist today...but you can't patent a plant. That's the bottom line. We need to stop it. Your reply is also appreciated.

Well the dots connect right back to same people behind everything else, they got Reefer Madness out and the propaganda changed everything good for us and the planet. I'll post a small article...Hemp is one of the world's most useful plants. Its uses range from paper to fuel, and it could replace many environmentally destructive products. For thousands of years hemp has been used as a food, to make clothing, as a medicine and as a drug. It can be turned into plastics and made into petroleum without producing sulphur, thus reducing CO2 in the atmosphere. Until 1883, 75 to 90% of all paper in the world was made from hemp. Due to difficulties harvesting it in large quantities, hemp fell out of favour as a profitable crop in the late 1800s, until an automated harvester was developed in the 1930s. In the intervening years, many industries were developed to take over hemp's role in production: oil was drilled from the ground, trees were used for paper and new sources of cloth were developed. Many of the companies involved now had a vested interest in making hemp illegal. The United States was the first country to introduce laws to destroy hemp plants, regardless of their intended use. That law was the result of political pressure exerted by the forestry industry and the Dupont corporation, which had just patented oil and coal based plastics production. Dupont's chief financial backer, Andrew Mellon, was US President J. Edgar Hoover's secretary of the treasury. He appointed his nephew, Harry J. Anslinger, to a position in the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. Anslinger whipped up a scare campaign about hemp, which referred to hemp as marijuana so that people would begin to associate the whole plant with drug use only. At the "high" point of this campaign, the propaganda films Reefer Madness, Marijuana: Weed With Roots in Hell, and Marijuana: Assassin of our Youth were made. The propaganda was all hype. Marijuana had been prescribed by doctors for centuries and the American Medical Association condemned the media beat-up as "tabloid sensationalism". The marijuana scare campaign was internationalised and the first hysterical articles appeared in Australia in 1938. In June that year, the newspaper Smith's Weekly ran the headlines: "Drug that maddens victims", "Plant grows wild in Queensland" and "Warning from America". The articles claimed that marijuana "distorts moral values and leads to degrading sexual excesses". At the end of 1938, hemp was listed in Australia as a "noxious weed" which had to be destroyed on sight. It was already illegal to smoke marijuana, but it was the hysteria whipped up about the "evils" of this drug that laid the basis in public opinion for the total banning of one of the world's most useful plants. Makes for some good research...the cure is there, cancer shouldn't be in our kids. It isn't about getting high, that's the propaganda..

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Natural Remedies are available from many natural sources but preventing sickness is as important, people need to learn what they are putting into their bodies. Eliminate Sugars, Glucose-Fructose, any Hydrogenated oils, Aspartame (diet pop, chewing gum), BPA, Fluoride, anything GMO, processed foods, meat slices, to start. Unfortunately "they" don't like this and will stop it any way they can....Amish and Raw Milk, control of natural herbs and other remedies...FDA. This was last week,,,, FDA Raids Herbal Distributor Over Cancer Remedies It’s no secret that the FDA is responsible for some of the most vastly detrimental products on the consumer market, but did you know that they are capable of raiding and confiscating ‘potentially harmful’ substances that only they arbitrate? Indeed, the FDA, known benefactors of big pharma, have been succeeding in their rampage across natural health remedy stores, and they could be coming to your town next. After an alleged complaint against the ‘Notion-n-things’ store in Missouri, the State department of Health and Senior Services managed to embargo the company’s herbal products. Only as recently as three weeks ago did the district judge sign the order for seizure of those products. Remember, this is the same organization that has declared walnuts to be illegal drugs. The three products now in custody of the FDA are Chickweed Healing Salve, a product based on comfrey; To-Mor-Gone, a product developed for the treatment of cancer; and R.E.P., a natural remedy for various headaches and sinus infections. The FDA’s only reasoning for seizure of the products is that they do not have properly labeled information; something that they are far too concerned with rather than for the health of the American people. Of course, none of these products had been approved by the FDA as a safe or effective method of treatment for their prescribed usage, and as such are considered unapproved – and illegal – drugs. The FDA has not yet conducted a formal review of any of these products in order to determine if they actually work or not; either way, the administration describes them as ‘misbranded’ and ‘false’ products. The FDA, spoken for by Dara Corrigan, admitted that the administrations’ concerns with these three products, and many others like them, is that cancer patients will choose them over their own ‘effective and proven’ treatments. In other words, only something that the FDA has approved is a valid method of treatment for cancer, and any sort of home or locally manufactured remedy is not only invalid, but also unlawful. Sources: http://www.naturalnews.com/035556_FDA_raids_herbal_remedies.html http://www.fda.gov/Food/DietarySupplements/Alerts/ucm111219.htm Explore More: EU Ban on Hundreds of Herbal Supplements Comes into Place Government Illegally Raids Gibson Guitars | Steals Millions Worth of Wood Home Remedies for Earache Common Natural Remedies that Really Work Pepsi Co. Follows Coca-Cola in Changing Recipe to Avoid Cancer Warning FDA Halts Best-Selling Cancer Drug Use for Breast Cancer This article first appeared at Natural Society, an excellent resource for health news and vaccine information.