rulesforrebels

thanks for posting, just realized they post their buy price online which is kinda cool as most dealers you have to contact to get a quote. too late to matter now but dealorbuydinar, dinarinc, buyiraqidinarhere are all buying in at 800 or more per million

If you don't mind my asking what are they paying right now for circulated and/or uncirculated?

Its not a scam if it doesnt rv. Thats like saying every stock i buy that doesnt give me a big return is a scam. Investing is just that risk

Ive heard many people say that anything less than 20000 troops they arent going to be doing anytjing as they dont have the numbers. I heard we were sending more guys over there to secure the embassy but thats it

I dont see rates getting any worse short of iraq falling into civil war and the country dissolving into nothing and it going to 0. I can see all this chaos being good or bad. Maybe its bad but maybe we have to interfere everyone relaizes they have a weak leader and need someone else and with our backing things continue to progress. Only time will tell tho

This is more a rant than anything else and I get it but this is really nothing new. I also think its funny that if some stranger on the street came up and gave you a stock pick you probably woudln't put too much faith in it yet some people hang on the words of gurus who they dont know and who have a vested interst in keeping you buying whether its because they get kickbacks from phone calls or whether because they get a kickback from a dealer. Another thing I think is sad as well as ignorant on our parts is how little many of us seem to know about even the most basic issues with Dinar and Dong. I hear people referring to dong and dinar as vnn and iqn as opposed to iqd and vnd. I see people talking about NDA's when they dont' exist. I hear people saying big notes will go away and small will stick around, has never happenned inthe history of currency just look at a MRI guide which you can find online to prove this. Someone spending thousands "investing" in this currency should know some of the very basic elements about the dinar. I know there's a lot of crap info online and its hard to sort good from bad but there's plenty of resources like Adams book about the RV or many other books on amazon which can give you the basics about the dinar. Everyone should undestand at least the basics and fundaments of what they are investing in and many people wit dinar are like oh my friend told me to buy this so I guess I'll drop 2k.

People love to talk oil and how its good for the Dinar but oil is done in Petro Dollars which is totally seperate and oil will never be done with Iraqi Dinar which in a sense makes Iraq's oil irrelevent to the discussion of a revalue. Sure if the oil industry gets moving it will help the overall economy which hopefully will increase the value of the currency but oil business will never be done in the local currency of Iraqi Dinar. I noticed you make mention of "when" the revalue will happen. Its not a matter of when its a matter of if which is a big maybe, a revalue in terms of an overnight spike would be unpresedented, not to say impossible but would be a first and is probably more unlikely than likely. Lastly, its not like they printed Dinar at the beginnign and stopped they have continnued printing which is actually a negative thing for our investment as like you said, by printing so muhc it makes it so that it never can climb to giant levels because that would mean due to the amount in circulation at a penny a piece maybe it makes sense but at a dollar a piece of even more it would mean iraq would have more money thhan all other countries put togther which just isn't possible. I got into this about hte same time as you late 04 maybe early 05. I actually thought there was a lot more upsight and reason to buy back then. There was a finite amount of Dinar around. Iraq was starting with a clean slate. THe future was uncertain but at the same time that was kind of a good thing because the sky was the limit. I think there's less reason to be optimistic now. Iraq has had almost ten years to get a government in place, stop bombings and violence, get industry moving, etc. They have made small steps but they are printing Dinar like crazy, there's still violence and bombings, alquada and terrorists are still there. I think had they gotten there act together there may have been a chance at a revalue earlier on or at least maybe we'd be seeing Dinar going for like 5k a mill vs 840 however that hasn't happened. I feel like whats happenned has been more negative than positive and I see less upside in te future, at least less upide in terms of a sharp increase. Maybe slowly over time they get their act together and get their country working and we see a gradual increase in the dinar and we make some money but i dont see anything huge happening nor is that really possible with the amount of dinar in circulation.

There are many countries with oil and other resources whos currencies are worth much less than the dollar Tnt tony shows how one man can create a movement just because people are buying it means noth8ngm it started with dinar now look any currency with a crappy rate people are now trying to say oh ya that one could make u rich too. Vietnam south korea afghan

Every week someone posts something like this. Its a glitch. Go to cbi.iq to chelc official rate not some unknown uk currency exchange site

Like i said some say with the amount of dinar in circulation its impossivle for it to ever rv to any significant rate. If that is true than dinar gives u 0% chance at being rich where as with a lottery ticket though its one in a billion at least gives u a shot

The us can pass all the laws they want but they cant make foreign governments do anything. Most however will as they want to keep good relations with the us. Im not aware of thos law but this really has nothing to do with dinar unless you have an iraqi bank account. Nobody knows how much dinar you have unless you bought over 10,000 worth and it was reported as is any transaction over that amount

Paypal is probably going to be the safest for both parties assuming its done as a sale and not sending money to a friend or as a service as that voids the buyer protections

Yeah this was my point in mentioning a few different dealers. I would specify go to a dealer over a bank or company like travelex as the few banks who buy it are buying at well under 800, I think travelex has one location that buys in but they are paying something like 670 last i checked. i imagine a dealer would not only pay more but many dealers pay a premium for smaller denoms where as a bank or travelex would just say dinar is dinar flat rate

You should check out dealorbuydinar and buyiraqidinarhere. Those are the only two i have found who pay a bit more for small notes as opposed for 25000 notes. Every other dealer ive spoken with says dinar is dinar and buys back in at a flat rate. Even if its just an extra 20 per mill thats an extra 400 or 500 bucks for you. Like everyone else hope all is okay with ya

some may argue at least with a lottery ticket you have a "chance" to win. some would say with dinar you dont

Taxes are co fusing nobody knows. The us co siders currency to be the currency of a country. Dinar is the currency in iraq so in that sense its a currency. That said if theres a limited market for something ie a fund sold by one company things are often consideted secyrities or commodities. Thougj most of us think of dinar as a currency because its not a traded currency and the cbi is essentially the only one who buys it back in some may try to make an argument its a security or commodity. Im no tax expert so im not sure if one is taxed at a lower rate but theres an argument to b made on both sides They wont phase out individual notes if one goes they all go and a new currency goes out. Typically you have 6 months to a year if there is a timeline. Many times its forever tho as with usd canadian and gbp. I know people have posted links to the MRI currency guide in the pastif you look at that guide you can see some examples of cash out time for various currenciesif I'm not mistaken many Euro countries currencies are still redeemable 10 years later

You can ask ehat you want but it seems you are looking for a quick sale. There are others on here selling for under 900 ebay can often have deals under 900 and even dealorbuy is running a special at 845 so if you wana sell you may have to bend a bit on price

Im all for people taking risks and trying things but people often talk as if anything you do or say will have some effect on an rv happening. Dropping 100 bucks on dinar is hardly trying to provide for your family it takes no effort. Trying is working 2 and 3 jobs or going back to school to get an education to get a better job. A monkey could hand over a 100 bill I have a currency exchange in the mall by my house. I cringe when i see fools maxing out all their cc cards and using link cards to buy more dong. If your collecting taxpayer dollars for food you shouldtlnt be buying dong

Saudi is actually weaker than dollar u get almost 3 saudi ryals for a buck. Kuwait however is stronger

Anyone can post anything on wikipedia with no fact checking

not sure what bb&t is but fifth third no longer deals with dinar currently. Dinar is not hard to get a hold of, just look at the buy sell section on here, if that were true dealers would be buying up from members on here so unless doc is a dealer buying up everyones dinar thats doubtful. also just take a look at ebay and see how many listings there are, look at specials dealers are running, dealorbuydinar was just selling circulated at $845 last week which is basically spot price. there is no shortage. im guessing dinaruk "ran out of stock" because I think they were the same company as Dinartrade. If ali sold DinarTrade he probably had to sign a noncompete and can't operate any business with currency. why would exchnage america give ali millions for dinartrade just to allow him to move his operations over to dinaruk and compete with them? My buddy was trying to buy some 50 notes and those are in short supply almost no dealer he checked with had any. aside from that i havn't heard of any shortages. I wouldn't read too much into shortages of certain notes, especially smaller notes. Years ago I used to buy from a smaller dealer out of Indiana. I would place my orders with the owner of the company. I used to chat with him a bit and got some insight into how his business worked. He basically said a lot of the smaller dealers are actually sourcing their currency from larger dealers like dinar trade and dinar inc. also even among the bigger dealers i think they all deal with the same handful of brokers so if one guy can't get a certain note most likely nobody can unless they happen to be sitting on a large stock of them already. assuming most dealers buy from one or two of teh top dealers it would make sense if one is out of 50 notes they all are.

I highly doubt he would jump in. I'm sure if he sold he would have to sign a non-compete for like at least 5 or 10 years. Nobody is going to spend millions on a business just to have the guy take his customer lists and start a new company and take all his customers back.

I've yet to hear about any credible stories about how anyone made money in kuwait, its always I knew this guy who knew this guy. Also, I think yes people did make money but it wasn't an official revalue. It would be like if Canada invaded the US, we all thought our money was going to crap so we were selling Dollars for 10 cents Canadian figuring I'll get what I can get while its good. Then Canada gets booted out of the US and if anyone was saavy enough to buy my dollars for 10 cents they would make out but it was a totally unique once in a lifetime situation. Nothing like the Dinar at all.

I think a few dealers are buying in at about $850 now if you need the cash quick.

Hey, as I'm sure most people are aware of by now DinarTrade is now either run or owned by exchange of America. I was just curious if Ali still owns DinarTrade and is just having someone else fullfill orders and run day to day or if it was completely bought out? I know in Alis email he made it sound as if they were just fulfiilling ordes but was reading on another forum Nenos place all the goings on. This neno fellow who seems to be friends with ali is being very vague and seems to be trying to make it seem as if its still run by ali but many forum members say they have called and been told tehre's no affiliation. This neno guy seems to almost covering up making it seem as if its still run by ali. Seems very strange but here's the link if anyone is interested. Also if anyone knows if ali is still running DT post what you know... Also, just on the offchance a link isn't allowed even though its obviously not promoting anything I'll put some captions from the discussion below... No not at all, he is working on the next stages of the future with his business and can not run both entities with all the traveling so he has appointed a company to handle the buying and selling for now. Dinar Trade the way I am explained it is still the name behind it and he is still the one supporting behind the scenes his customers.... I got bad weather here and loosing connection. trying to get this information out as fast as I can. Sending a mass email out as connections connect. Just giving the NNP Members the heads up. These serving locations are up and running now for all's convenience now.. ------ This is the owner and only principle of record and used to known as DI collectibles which I believe was a coin shop. Detail by Entity Name Florida Profit CorporationXCHANGE OF AMERICA, INC. Filing Information Document NumberP07000131461FEI/EIN Number061831072Date Filed12/12/2007StateFLStatusACTIVEEffective Date12/10/2007Last EventAMENDMENT AND NAME CHANGEEvent Date Filed07/06/2012Event Effective DateNONE Principal Address 819 SW FEDERAL HIGHWAY STUART, FL 34994 Changed: 02/09/2012 Mailing Address 819 SW FEDERAL HIGHWAY STUART, FL 34994 ---- Yes correct, DinarTrade has contracted the serving to Robert Hoffman. I would have eventually gotten this info available but do to timing with work and play, work gets most of my time. There will be newer banners coming up soon as they just got designed and I just received them and have forwarded them to my programmer. More info to follow soon... ---- just wondering why the biggest dinar dealer would sell out to someone else? ----- Correction, has not sold out as stated in the first post oh wait, I didn't get top post what I sent for approval. But if you do click the link, it is the servicing of the buying and selling for the time being was how I was explained while he tends to other future moves. Then again, read between the lines on what the CBI has put out lately... ----- spoke to stacy at XOA in nevada and she said no afilation to dinar trade> was suprised to hear they had nothing to do with dinar trade! called dinar trade at xxx) xxx-xxxx ------ Nothing more I can add then already said at this time. It is what it is. Tried to explain the way explained to me, all I can do... ----- lol, I have said all that there is to be said to say including that NO he has not sold out. He himself even states on the site that they have contracted their buying and selling servicing part to XOA moving forward. Why? If I could say I would, only thing allowed was future plans. Sorry gang but it is all I know. ------ The XOA servicing took in all Dinar trade employees. That is all there is to that. As far as the Texas Office, he said I could still have that if I wanted but I told him lets see how this XOA works out with the 8 offices now and 10 more coming. May not be no need just not sure yet. ----- Yes, well established company that already deals in many many currencies: ----- yep with no ties>> LOl ----- Well it just means that NNP is free to do as it wishes, not having to answer to anyone is always the best approach. I will be sending a email out in a week or two for a chat where I will show other means of choices. I am and have always been in thought of freedom of choice. I think that that is good business practice but with the loyalty I have had all these years I have to do some research before that chat...