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Thank you for the post Tony..i swear the more I read the less I know after this ride is over I will need a translator for the voices in my head

He was always very passionate about the possibility of wealth through the dinar RV, and whats funny is when he found out he was going back to Iraq he would joke and say he had to go back there to get this war over and let Shabs and Maliki know to get this sh** done already! LOL he is a great man and along with all of you would be more than grateful to get his life back and what a great way to kick start that w a nice RV!!

Anyone hear what the 3pm meeting brought?? Also for those of you that knew my cousin from this site DRV1804 I am pleased to announce he is coming home!! His days in Iraq are over for now, he has served his country well and today I am proud to be a American

Sounds good, thank you!!

Thank you Thug appreciate it!!

We should make a new section called bs LOL love it

I posted a really good BL chat about a half ago and wanted to get everyone's take on it I came back on to check it and I can't find it anywhere? Can someone please help??

BondLady] hi there proteus [bondLady] every one [Proteus] Hello all... afternoon... to everyone [bondLady] id like u to meet proteus [bondLady] he owns the revalue.us site now [bondLady] he took it over from david when david left to become a broker [grashopa] Proteus ....hello, and welcome to BLC [bondLady] say hi ev 1 [Proteus] so how is everyone today.. [bondLady] great [bondLady] i been ribbin ev 1 up on u [Proteus] thanks greash [bondLady] theve got a lot of questions [dianna] Hi there Proteus [bondLady] but kick back a few an get to know us 1st [bondLady] were a good group [Proteus] whoa... lot of questions... [Proteus] OK... all right [TheRock] Proteus turn the air conditioner on [Proteus] so i don't know many here... but if I can answer any of your questions about ReValue, and "The Community HUB" and the way or direwction it is going... ask away [TheRock] Proteus I have a few questions and when we are ready I will ask.. [Proteus] hey to start out with... if my fingers type faster than my mind can tell them which keys to hit... please excuse me! [bondLady] if u dont mind proteus im gonna copy us all and put it in my chat section [Proteus] copy away... [grashopa] Proteus ......what a cool name you have. Where did ya get that from?? [Proteus] well thats a good question... My name Proteus comes from the most basic element of a PROTEIN... a proteus, but it also come from a myth of a sea god that had the ability to change form anyway he needed to relate to the different creatures in the sea [Proteus] I 1st found about this name in HG wells "War of the Worlds" [grashopa] Proteus .....very cool [priscilla927] Proteus Isn't that a character in The Matrix, too? I could be wrong.... [Proteus] well I can read ok... as long as I can keep up with the question... I'll be ok... unless you want me to change color for your members benefit [Proteus] I must say I have seen all of the matrix triligy and i have never heard of it there, but I might have overlooked it [TheRock] Proteus we are glad you came here to visit and have us ask you questions [TheRock] Proteus How long have you been invested in the Iraq Dinar? [Proteus] perfect... I just hope I can answer your questions with something you want to hear [bondLady] just be honest [bondLady] and give us your true opinons [bondLady] we use our own brains here [TheRock] Proteus How long have you been invested in the Iraq Dinar? [bondLady] we dont have to be spoon fed even tho we like it [Proteus] I have been in the dinar for over 3 1/2 years, and vested in it for 2 years... I am not a longtimer as many are, but a very fast learner [Proteus] I started out with the buy right away, it's happening now or tomorrow, and found out that it is a different story... it is an investment like many other in life [bondLady] when i talked to proteus on the phone earlier [TheRock] Proteus thank you fro being honest.. thats important.. many here have been in this since the very beginning [bondLady] we talked about iraq culture [bondLady] an how they like to argue and barter on ev thing [bondLady] so he does know there culture [TheRock] Proteus It was stated that Shabibi said he would revalue the currency after there is a complete GOI. Has the GOI been completed or is the GOI complete by proxy of the remaining seats like the security minister? [bondLady] makein it a lot easier to understand the articles [Proteus] well i think there is more than a complete GOI to be accomplished... [grashopa] ...hey you all just coming in....we are doing a Q & A with Proteus ...the new owner of Revalue.US.... [TheRock] Proteus does teh GOI need to be complete for a RV? [Proteus] the ministerys that are proxied are there, they can fill in, this is not the main stopping point in my mind [Proteus] the situation is that there are things that need to happen 1st [bondLady] ok 1 question at a time plz [bondLady] rocks 1st [bondLady] [TheRock] Proteus It was stated that Shabibi said he would revalue the currency after there is a complete GOI. Has the GOI been completed or is the GOI complete by proxy of the remaining seats like the security minister? [bondLady] we will try to get them all [Proteus] shabibi today was in from of the parliamentary ministry for economy and investments... [Proteus] this is a prelude to having PARLIAMENT vote on a law to change the currency [Proteus] shabibi can not just pull the trigger and make things happen [Proteus] he is the governer of the CBi [dianna] Proteus.... Do u think Iraq has to rv there curruancy first before Chap 7 will b lifted or could it b the other way around? [Proteus] and he is an ADVISOR to the parliament in matter of banking [Proteus] but he can not do this on his own [Proteus] he needs parliament ot vote it into happening [TheRock] Proteus There have been many articles out saying Iraq has its full sovereignty or will have after all our troops leave. In your opinion does Iraq have that status now and if not what is needed to obtain it? [Proteus] and then Parliament will instruct the Finance Ministry to comply with shabibi [bondLady] any 1 so as not to miss any 1 plz im grashopa an let him copy each question an he will ask them for u [Proteus] as shabibi has said in the past he needs the help of the finance minisrty for the mechanism to be successful [Proteus] and this is relative to getting the money for the monetary sytem to be converted [Proteus] should i continue... or did i answer your question [TheRock] Proteus yes you answered it ty [Proteus] perfect [TheRock] There have been many articles out saying Iraq has its full sovereignty or will have after all our troops leave. In your opinion does Iraq have that status now and if not what is needed to obtain it? Do they need full sovereignty to revalue its currency? [Proteus] ROCK, regardless what articles say... as most articles are the opinion or relaied statement inturpretated by the editor... [Proteus] Iraq will not be fuly sovereign until they are ANNOUNCED out of chaptor 7 [Proteus] and news agencies can't do that, the UNSC is whom will declare that [Proteus] is that what ya wanted? [TheRock] Proteus just your thoughts is what I am looking for ty [Proteus] oh a 2nd part of the question... that'll teach me to read the whole question before I start typing [Proteus] the article... well I fully believe that Iraq wants to declare that they are on their own feet, and that is is not up to the sactioners to allow them to Rv the currency [Proteus] so I believe that they will not do anything this important to their global image until after the occupier have left [Proteus] mainly into next year [TheRock] Proteus but sovereignty plays a big part in the revaluation? [Proteus] we will leave some trainers and support personnel there... but i think those troops will not matter [Proteus] Well ofcourse... it does [TheRock] What part does UN Sanctions Chapter 7 play in the Sovereignty of Iraq and can Iraq revalue its currency while under Chapter 7? [Proteus] to be on your own feet, is important to any child or new situation... iraq wants to say they did it by themselves... [TheRock] and with that question ... http://www.un.org/en/doc ··· r7.shtml Chapter 7 Article 41 clearly states that the UN may include partial or complete interruptions of economic relations AND of rail, sea, air, postal, telegraphic, radio, and other means of communication, and the severance ot diplomatic realtions. It seems to me as long as Iraq is under such a powerful article they are hindered very strongly as to what they can or can not do economically. What are your thoughts on this?? [Proteus] I think the sanctions and chaptor 7 are a big thing for the image of iraq... now do they physically prevent iraq from changing their currency... maybe not... but the other processes that i did not mention from above also need to be accomplished before Iraq will RV [Proteus] "UN may include partial or complete interruptions of economic relations..." i said that they maybe would not prevent them... it is up to the unsc to make that final decision as long as sanctions are in place [TheRock] Proteus ty.. one last question that many think the revalue is needed.. [TheRock] With respect to the world economic situation how is Iraq a player in the scheme of things, that is, how is Iraq revaluation going to help solve the worlds economic problems? [Proteus] well here is the deal... that is a double sided sword... [TheRock] Proteus yes that was my thoughts also.. the UNSC has much power [Proteus] Iraq has the largest oil reserves in the world, they just can not get to them fully yet [Proteus] and so the US, as many other countries have made prior deals with Iraq to purchase oil at a rate far below the going price [Proteus] and this is what will help the world when Iraq starts rendering the loans and oil back to the countries that they are indebted to for assistance [Proteus] this is why many countries thru the paris club [Proteus] have released their debts [Proteus] because they have plan B's to get their value back [Proteus] back to the question [Proteus] ok, now many countries [Proteus] have foreign reserves also, and when the value of the Dinar raises, they stand to make a pretty penny and reduce their own debts [Proteus] next question... [grashopa] [RickeyT] it has been stated that Allawi retired and gave up his position, what are your feeling on that, is Allawi done? [TheRock] Proteus ty [Proteus] hey ROCK... no worries I'm glad to have expressed my opinion [Proteus] NOW allawi... he's a different dude [Proteus] he is a cry baby, and a trouble inciter... not he has no reason to be the squeeky wheel or anything [Proteus] but he lost the election, maybe honestly or maybe it was stolden [Proteus] but either way he lost and he is the reason why this thing has drug on for over a year... inciting the blocs to not get along [Proteus] and arguing about how he got cheated... just stand up and realize... you lost, and make the best of what remains... don't ruin the whole situation for the rest of the country [Proteus] I think that allawi could have done some good by uniteing the different groups instead of just pulling everything apart because he thought he was going to take over if he could get Malaki out of office [Proteus] did that answer your question? [bondLady] rickey? [bondLady] did that do it for u buddy [RickeyT] Proteus no, is he going to share power w/Maliki?. [Proteus] At this time... allawi share no prower with anyone... he turned down positions that Malaki offered to him and refused to be 2nd dog in the show... whether or not he ends up sharing power in the grand scheme of things is still to be decided... but as of now... I do not know of him having any official power in the GOI [bondLady] if any 1 has questions plz im grashoppa and give them to him and he will ask in your name this chat is being copied so ev 1 plz sit on hands ty [RickeyT] Proteus Thanks... [bondLady] next [grashopa] [vested] what are the chances that everything has been completed and just not announced ? [Proteus] hey good question... but i do think he still has some pull with his party or bloc still... [Proteus] ok... lets see.. [Proteus] I do believe that like with any government the GOI has a time to announce their laws and decisions, and I think it is 90 days or they have to vote again.. [Proteus] and what I mean by this is [Proteus] that most governments have a built in delay in process for announcement to the media, this allow classified and confidential things to begin process before scalpers and weirdos take advantage of the situation [Proteus] so if a law is voted on, then they have a set amount of time to publize it or it needs to be revoted on... but until the deadline comes about... they can withhold the announcement [Proteus] if they do not announce the new law or ammendmant, than they go back to square one... and this was built into the situation so they could not hide laws forever and just inform you that years ago we passed something [Proteus] ... but classifed and confidential matters can be withheld from public announce for a duration of time... which i always thought was 90 days [Proteus] hope thats what you asked? [vested] ok ty [Proteus] whether or not they have done this is another matter [Proteus] there are the steps that i was saying when I 1st got here that need to be accomplished [Proteus] ...here is a quick list of my thoughts [Proteus] 1st shabibi confornts the commissions [Proteus] the commissions go to p[arliament [Proteus] parliament votes [Proteus] parliament instructs the finance ministry to comply [Proteus] the financne ministry provisions shabib with what he needs [Proteus] shabibi orders the new currencies [Proteus] while the new currencies are being prepared the educational program in instituted [Proteus] then the citizens become aware of the change officially... not just rumors thru new paper articles of opinion or editorial [Proteus] then the lower new denoms are released so change can be made from the big bills [Proteus] the big bills are retained in the CBI and eventually there are now only new lower denoms in use [Proteus] but for the monitary system to be totally converted... many things all have to happen... and many of them simultainiously [Proteus] these are my systematic opionions of what needs to happen... step by step [Proteus] and like [Proteus] when i was talking to BondLady [Proteus] I mentioned to her that HISTORY has alot to do with IRAQ [Proteus] from before itme began they have been a bartering society, infact the whole middle east is and has been [Proteus] so when you go shoppingin a store in the market they have something that the price is 10, they expect you to barter for it [Proteus] so you say 2, they say 8, you say 4, they say 5 and ... that is all they ever wanted was 5 to start out with [Proteus] but their way of life is that they love to argue or barter their way through life [Proteus] so when you read many articles in the news [Proteus] and you say well that has been written before... it is just a little difert twist on the same story, well this is really the news agencies bartering back and forth in their own way for the best story [Proteus] and when [Proteus] you read that shabibi says 000's all go away, and the ministers of the GOI say no zeros' go away [Proteus] and back and forth, and they present so called experts... to argue their side of the deal... well this is back to that bartering nature they have instilled within them since time has began [Proteus] so we will never know how far this goes or what the outcome will be ahead of the result... as these facts carry on... [Proteus] next question... sorry to get off track with my opinion [Proteus] hope that helps... [vested] ty [Proteus] good question... [grashopa] SMOOTH] Since iraq has had i think 4 small rvs one would think they could rv at any time ty [Proteus] perfect... they can do anything that they want if the unsc allows them to do it before they are out of sanctions... [Proteus] shabibi can change the rate minorly, and the interest amount minorly... [Proteus] but to change the entire monitary system... he needs parliaments approval... [Proteus] the CBI has kept the rate of 1170 for a long time now, and manipulated the auctions back and forth for years [Proteus] why [Proteus] to make the spread... the 13 dinars on the sale and buy of the dinars [Proteus] they sell dinars and buy dollars, and then turn right around and sell dollars and buy dinars... for the spread, and in doing this so often... the rate has become relatively stable... at 1170, although when the auctions are not happening like on holidays and such, you might see the 1170 go fron 1150 to maybe 1190... as people still need conversions for thier own reasons, [Proteus] and this process is what aloows the CBI to pay wages, from the spread on the dinar sales at auction and from the interest made on the loans thhhey have given [Proteus] hope thats the answer you wanted... as it is what you recieved... [sMOOTH] Proteus TY [Proteus] thanks for asking [grashopa] [Fast Eddie] after listen to Randy on another site last night he said they need to RV before they can can out of chapter 7 your opinion on this please [sMOOTH] Proteus ill send ya my book [TheRock] Proteus excellent reply ty [Proteus] perfect and I will sign your book and send it back... [Proteus] ok... now for randy and his chatter... [Proteus] I do believe that this does fall within the they do not have to realloy be out of sanctions to do it, will they get out of sanctions for doing it NO... [Proteus] the revampment of the monitary system is a requirement for the sanctions to be lifted... but they can stay at the same rate, and simply say that this rate is working to curb inflation, to energize the economy, and to intice forewign investors that way it is [Proteus] now is this true... well kinda it is [Proteus] but [Proteus] they need to have a internationally recognized currency to be a real country... a country with safe guards for investors to see that everyone in the world feels safe about investing in Iraq [Proteus] and this internationall recognized thing... that is what really needs to happen, and that will not happen until they are out of sanctions... as I see it [Proteus] so i guess... that still is a double sided sword... yes they need out of sanctions to get internationally recognized... but do they need to change their rate to be internationally recognized... NO [Proteus] but they have been stockpiling Reserves... as they have more reserves 58 to 60 billion now... more than they have ever had since 1921 [Proteus] and this is a good thing to illlustrate to the international community that they have enough back up funding to handle things, and not to worry about the investments of foreign companies... as investors are safe! [Proteus] those are my thoughts on Randys chatter... that I did not listen too... but I hope i got to your question... and answered it [Proteus] did I fart... the room is so quite [TheRock] I will have to read the rest later,, I have to go now.. ty Proteus .. very very good... ty for your honestly and straight forward answers.. [Fast Eddie] so its yes they can rv under chapter 7 but rving doesn't get them out of 7 [bondLady] ty rock [sMOOTH] Proteus yer doing great [Proteus] thanks all [grashopa] [lightingcslt] question for proteus do yo feel art 140 hcl and security ministers will be all done in one failed swoop [bondLady] wait [bondLady] proteus can u give fast eddie a yes or no plz [bondLady] to finish his question plz [Proteus] yes eddies, they can change their rate under chaptor 7, but changing their rate does not guarantee them out of chaptor 7 [Fast Eddie] Proteus TY Sir [bondLady] ty [bondLady] next [grashopa] [lightingcslt] question for proteus do yo feel art 140 hcl and security ministers will be all done in one failed swoop [bubbies] so chapert7 never was or never has been an issue for an rv ! [Proteus] i am not sure on this one [Proteus] this is a rather hard question to make a statement on [bondLady] i can help a little on that 1 also [Proteus] YES, They could all be done in one fair swoop... BUT [Proteus] NO they will probably not be done that easily [Proteus] the kurds want theior share of the oil money, and the article 140 people want their properties and land back, and the ministers... well that is probably the easiest part of the equation to happen... [Proteus] they can be just presented and approved [Proteus] the other 2 items need interventioona nd negoiation for the final drafts to be approved [Proteus] I'd like to hear Bond ladys 2 cents onthis one as my fingers COOL DOWN... [Proteus] heheheh [bondLady] article 140 was agreed upon and passed into law back in i think april of this year and they have emplemented a lot of it but they dont like it as it makes them give up some of the land saddam stole and they are working on the ministers whether or not they set them in this governments time is any ones guess but they are really workin on them tho this time so imo it all could go down at once but thats my opinon tho both are part of the erbril agreements which maliki did proomise the kurds he would do if they gave him the vote for pm back in the elections [bondLady] i do still have the art 140 article where it was agreed up never to be changed [bondLady] its just they have a hard time letting go of the land after its been theres for a while [bondLady] an they have to pay money to move these people [bondLady] buy there farms an move them [bondLady] they dont like to let go of the dolla [Proteus] I think that it will be hard to the 3 things to all happen in 1 fair swoop, bingo bango bongo.... done! [bondLady] er dinar [Proteus] yup exactly... [bondLady] an articles have also shown latly [bondLady] see how allawis tryin to kiss up to maliki lately [Proteus] i guess it could be done... will the GOI give in and let it be done... thats another question [bondLady] sayin im ready to reconcile if u are [bondLady] lets kiss an make up [bondLady] just admit yada yada yada [bondLady] an maliki comes back an says [rileyjones] BondLady Does Maliki have to give up 2/3 of his power? [bondLady] there nothin to reconcile [bondLady] what allawi didnt understand is i didnt take it personal he did [bondLady] so he says nothin to reconcile about [Proteus] yuo thats the truth [bondLady] then allawi comes bk an says [bondLady] i dont want a postion any more [bondLady] just empliment the rest of erbril agreements [bondLady] so then now this week or next they name the presidency of the iraqi list [bondLady] we know that should or will be allawi [bondLady] hes suckin up as maliki said to get close to the government [bondLady] after he stalled and slow played for a yr [bondLady] got every 1 and there dog hacked off at every one [bondLady] hes ready to play now [bondLady] he was never gonna get supreme council [bondLady] and have power over every one [bondLady] all he saw was i have power over every decision maliki makes [bondLady] non of the blocks wanna give up any of there power just so allawi can have a title [bondLady] and it was unconstitutional anyways [Proteus] yup [bondLady] if allawi had done his home work in the beginnin an knew what the constition said like maliki did since he helped write it [bondLady] if hed done his home work we be sittin in tall cotton right now [bondLady] ok im thru [bondLady] hit it proteus [bondLady] sorry all [bondLady] did that all answer your question lighters [Proteus] I love it... I like Bondladys comments [bondLady] tyvm [Proteus] sweet and to the point [bondLady] ill butt in again in a bit [Proteus] I agree wholeheartedly [bondLady] tyvm [Antar7] you hit already bl [bondLady] next question plz gh [grashopa] [RickeyT] from what I have read, we could be sitting here next Christmas going "are we any closer?" [Proteus] here is my thoughts [Proteus] once the steps I outlined eariler happen, then the longest part of the happening is the education program, and the intorduction of the new looing notes with 3 languages on them [Proteus] i think that things will get good and going in the 1st quarter of 2012 and the situation will be drawn out for many another year, doing education, conversions, and harvesting the big notes [Proteus] these people still walk hunderds of miles to go to church [Proteus] nothing is going to happen instantly [grashopa] and from our local comedian....[sMOOTH] Is it true it takes 3- licks to get to the center of a blow pop ? [lightingcslt] Proteus sorry to interupt ty you have answer my question [Proteus] Paul bremmer when the situation happend in 2003 and 2004... when the curreency was devalued he gave the citizens i think it was 6 months if I remember [Proteus] to change in their notes for the new ones... and there was still people that did not get it dome in time [bondLady] 3 months [Proteus] so the CBI said that this would not happen over nite, and that the value of the notes would not be lessened... the VALUE would remain.... [bondLady] oct 15th to jan 15th [Proteus] so I see this starting this year and going into next year prior to a climax [bondLady] i have that link too [RickeyT] Proteus so you are saying the summer of 2013 at the earliest? [Proteus] 90 days... Ok ya... perfect... thanks for the correction... I am humbled... [bondLady] i dont think thats what hes sayin [Fast Eddie] Proteus sorry to interuped but you can't hand out smaller notes with out the RV having taken place the Iraqi's will not give up the large notes if the small one don't get them anything [bondLady] u arent sayin u think it wont happen till 2013 are u pro? [Proteus] no... I did not say it would start in a year.... [Proteus] I said i think it will start in the 1st quarter of 2011... and last for a year or son the the conversion... prior to completing the process of complete change in the monetary system [Proteus] did that answer the question... about when..? [grashopa] 1 more [bondLady] ok did that ans the last question ? [grashopa] [bubbies] if it'going to takev 3 months or longer what will inflation be at that time 10% 20% 30%? shabibi will not wait ! [bondLady] 1 last question proteus and then we will let u tell us about ur cc tomorrow nite and your forum [Proteus] inflation now is less than 7 percent... actually i think they say 6.9% [Proteus] and if it were to rise into the double digits then shabibi might get a little antsy.... [bubbies] Proteus ty ! [Proteus] but I think the rate of inflation is kinda stable and for the next few month we'll probably see it slightly drop even more... unless the marketteers get greedy and bump up prices for the end of the year! [Proteus] ok... last question... [bondLady] plus [bondLady] the imports of all the building supplies every thing imaginable to build is almost 99% imported [bondLady] the imports is whats causeing there inflation so bad [bondLady] theve adjusted about all they can with out raising interest rates [bondLady] food clothes an building supplies an electricity is our friends causeing higher inflation its not there friend tho [Proteus] the inflation rate has to do with the cost of goods, either at the market, or at the border.... bu the TAXES and TARRIFS law is going to affect this [bondLady] did that ans your question bubbies [Proteus] but I think things are good for the moment [bubbies] BondLady BondLady yep inflation is our friend ! [bondLady] yep [Proteus] bubbles... are ya good, did i answer your question??? [Proteus] ok... well [bubbies] Proteus yes ty like i said inflation is our friend ty ty ! [bondLady] ok proteus that was a great Q&A u was gracious enough to do for us now could u please tell us a little about yourself the cc tomorrow night and your site revalue.us please [sMOOTH] Proteus TY [.PastorDoug] Proteus Thank you [bubbies] Proteus ty !

Another interesting post...i feel like were getting closer!! Thank you for the post

Just love you BL!! Thank you again!!

Thank you Brisco that means so much...my cousin is one of the greatest men I have ever met...his wife left him because of the Iraqi war and he keeps pushing on...he loves this site and thank you Markinsa you are a stand up guy....all I can say is God bless America...and PLEASE GO RV!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DRV was back to get even at Dinarvets?? Come on! My cousin has devoted his life to this country and is back in Iraq....he found out he was getting deployed to Iraq again and made a bad judgement call and disrespected one of the Mods on this site. It's not who he is and it will NEVER define him. This man is one of the most loyal and stand up individuals I have ever met. I sincerely hope you know that I AM NOT DRV, I am his cousin and live in his house now because he is not here to take care of it, rather he is in Iraq trying to take care of this country....

Again so, so sorry Brisco!! and to the Dinarvets site...i love this site and would never want to disrespect anyone on here....sorry Adam and to the mods

Brisco I'm sorry I was not trying to put a triple XXX site link...I have been in this investment for years and my cousin as well and he was deployed to Iraq again so im holding the dinar fort down so to speak I don't know why my link was messed with but I can assure I would NEVER post a link to a triple x site...my apologies Brisco and to the Dinar Vets site *********************** This is the link I posted not sure what happened?? Ok i know whats going on its another sites link so they wont allow it..which I understand but geez come on dont let these members think i posted a triple x website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!