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Forgive me if I misread this post, but the purpose of this post was not to talk up Frank. The purpose of the post appeared to make a point that the rhetoric in Frank's post some 20 months ago is the same rhetoric all the gurus, including Adam, are touting is imminent for major news - HCL, Chapter VII, RV. It is unnerving to see current Iraqi events unfolding and think that this is a level just preceding major changes AND THEN read that different events nearly two years ago led many to think the same thing back then. We all say "go RV" and hold great hope, but when I see stuff like this I feel like I am spinning on a merry-go-round Recirculation of the same rumor is redundancy and irritating. Recirculation of a column that states the same principles but applied to totally different events and times and still making sense makes one take a step back. Are we really on forward course to actual economic event or shift? Or are we just pawns in a whirlpool of currency, VIP, membership sites, etc gurus taking are last dollars on a wing and a prayer?

Carlos, You provide some fodder for a lot of interesting debate. I personally do not believe that Iraq has any crippling bargaining chips with respect to their oil. Their are several shale oil reserves alone in the states that boast containing enough oil to supply the world's needs for the next 200 years. Their is presumed large reserves in Mexico, South America, Eastern Europe, Russia that, for various reasons, are still largely untapped. With respect to Iraqi oil, the US lived without it since the embargo of 1989(?) and I wonder how much we have gained since the invasion into Iraq in 2003? What Iraq does offer, like the balance of the Middle East, is a very obtainable "sweet" crude oil. Sweet oil (as opposed to a sour crude found throughout Central and South America which contains a lot of sulfur that can wreak havoc on a refinery without being pretreated) is readily refinable. This can save cents on the gallon which, in the world of oil refining, is tons of money. In my opinion it is US (and other) oil companies who have greatest interest in Iraqi oil. But more importantly, Iraq needs them for the potential value they can bring to their economy. Kind of places the shoe on the other foot. The other players who need the oil, as mentioned by others, are the growing "capitalistic" economies of China and Russia - especially China and they have attained a strong financial position in the world economy. Whoever would have thought China or Russia to be major players in a world capitalistic economy ten or fifteen years ago? Which brings me to think that, even though us Western cultures are hated as a rule by the Arab nations, what prevents them from pursuing the same positions as these Communistic countries? While politics could definitely be in play, I am not sure this is Iranian or Iraqi revenge. Perhaps it is just jockeying for position. My question and ignorance is just how they determine their relative value and attain a position in the established playing field?

While I think what you say Mak is well said and generally very accurate, I had to chuckle of my teenage days 30 years ago when two of the proverbial male lies were " Yes, dear I love you" and "I will respect you in the morning". As I look back, more often than not, these "lies" really weren't lies - just "false" male bravado! I can say that now thirty years later - the wife doesn't give it two thoughts anyhow. LOL!

Every time anymore I hear the terms raising or deleting the three zeroes I associate these with ipecac syrup. Both items make me want to puke.

Yes yes yes, A lop is very possible and is easier to defend than the high hopes for a lucrative RV. Which, incidentally, is why the overwhelming majority of us got into this investment. So rather than waste your time, and all of our time who check a post to realize it is the same mamby-pamby rhetoric of people who think they are so smart to try to dispel theories, myths, or whatever else you want to call this Iraqi monetary situation. For me, all these lopster posters would be better suited to just sell their damn dinar for a minor loss and reinvest in something safe like a CD or whole life insurance and leave the rest of us the hell alone. I am sick of all this hypothesizing why this will never happen - and, again I know it may well not. Thank God people like Rockefeller, Edison, Gates and the like were not surrounded by multitudes of naysayers like yourselves; we would still be in the Stone Age.

I , at first, thought Randalln was a pumper, with his wild predictions and horrible grammar he fit the mold. However, when this site zeroed out our reputations, Randalln was hellbent on building his score back to 1200. Read his posts. I really think he grasps at straws and says anything to get a positive reactions. In all truthfulness, the friend of a friend, and the connected relative, entrees get old. Especially when the wild predictions are followed up by "that is all I can say" or " I can't reveal any more info but I know a lot more" teasers. This gets old real fast. Guess others here have more tolerance for good old times sake, or just more tolerance.

Its off a year. Everyone is brainwashed. Stay focused on news with all its poor translations that can be construed several ways in many instances. Yet, "Lets go RV" implies hope for something imminent cause there is no sense rooting it on if it is at least another year off! These kind of nutty posts make me think we are all ready for the strait jackets!!!

On Saturday, December 10, I happened to catch an interview on CNN "the Situation Room" http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/12/10/trump-tells-wolf-blitzer-i-know-you-president-although-less-some-folk in which, Donald Trump, among many other comments, bashes the Obama regime for not taking more control of all the Iraqi Oil before US troop withdrawal. He also makes similar accusation on the handling of Libya. When I entered into the Iraqi dinar investment last spring, one of the chief rumors (to get my interest no doubt) was that Trump was heavily invested in the IQD. It seems interesting that he paints a picture of doom and gloom that the US (and others) would leave all that money on the table. Even if Trump did not have an investment in Iraqi currency, is it even plausible to think that the US left Iraq to reap their own rewards without any investment for future returns, or compensation for war expenses? One of the major objections to the Bush regime for entering Iraq in the first place was the loose ties **** Cheney had to Halliburton, and the seeming profits they were getting in Iraq (and Kuwait prior). I know the media and the bipartisan politicians spin news (just like Iraq bulletins LOL!) to further their agenda, but can one honestly believe that the US was so inept, or generous, to leave fortunes behind with no strings attached? I sure do not, so my question is what do others more enlightened than myself feel about the input of America and of US corporations and investors with respect to Iraqi wealth and reserves, and the potential future earnings? Those who have dabbled in the ISX, do you see a lot of US corporate involvement and investment that was purported to be on the increase? Does anyone think this interview had any dotted lines to the dinar (even smoke and mirrors)?

From your mouth to God's ears!!!!! Thank you and same wishes to you.

Thank you for your view - well spoken and credible. As I said, it is easy to find some tidbit of logic to discredit, or greatly diminish, the most positive of news. And a lot of the "news" is definitely contrived or misinterpreted hype. Even the most recent chat of Adam Montana tried to make a rather reaching optimistic spin for a state of seemingly total chaos in Iraq. Adam, however; is one of few in this investment who is in a win/win situation, although, in Adam's defense, he definitely will win much more if the RV occurs. This all being said, it is not that most consider a RV the only option - in fact, I think most deep down realize this is a rather long shot- it is the possibility of this RV that generates and sustains this site. While a RD and a subsequent RV could double or triple your investment - a substantial gain in almost any normal investment - this scenario could take ages to occur in Iraq as well. I stand that most got into this investment not for this scenario, but for far-reaching hope and prospect that a nation rich in resources could actually pull off a RV of a 100:1 (or higher) return on investment. Sometimes it is nice to forsake the status quo and go with the adage of Bobby Kennedy "Some men see things as they are and ask "why?", I dream things that never were and say "why not?"

I am very sorry to hear of the demise of your business. Many on this site like to chastise those who they believe bought Dinar with money they could not afford, but they, perhaps innocently, neglect to realize that many have suffered setbacks in this horrible economy (in most places it is) that they did not have any reason to anticipate when they originally made investments. I know I did not fathom that my wife would leave me, my daughter would have a very expensive extended illness, and I would lose a stable job and income of 15 years - all this year. This, unfortunately, is life and all its unpredictability. But I believe new doors open when others close; and I hold hope. I wish that you and the many others who have suffered your plight can quickly regain positive momentum with new opportunities. My empathy and best wishes are with you. And, yes, this doggone RV would be great!

Perhaps you should share your logic since you (and "Lots of Dinar") clearly always have a dim view of anyone who ever posts anything of positive potential progress towards an Iraqi IQD RV. It is easy to discredit anything on this RV until it actually occurs, and If it ever occurs. So it would appear that stating all your negativity, even when justified at times (although not on this post), is the diatribe that should be kept to oneself.

Well said. I hope you are correct in your thinking.

I have no idea what message you are trying to convey. Sorry you consider my search for a legitimate explanation that the Iraqi regime seeks or even considers this purported RV of 0.10/USD or higher inane babbling. I did not contradict myself as to do so I would had to make a statement to be refuted. As I was seeking data in my post, I clearly did not have the ability to make a statement - an understanding is not a statement of fact. As I treat this investment into the Iraqi dinar as a business investment, since it required a significant outlay of capital, I anticipated some reply of significance and enlightenment. I really did not need or appreciate the condescending double talk response replete with idiotic emoticons.

I hate what you say, but you are correct. The negatives to you are just people's frustration that what they desperately want is probably a farce. Many want to be spin doctors and say this stupid "deleting three zeros" means something else, but it appears to be both in print and in logic that they have an overly- inflated and overly-printed currency that needs to be brought out of monopoly money and into the real world, if they want a currency other than the US dollar to ever have any validity in their country. Can ANYONE show me one clipping ever from Iraq stating that they were going to give a 100:1 or 1000:1 RV on their currency? I have researched again and again after I bought into this hype of the RV. Much made sense. But beyond a Kuwait RI (a totally different government setup and circumstances) there is nothing past or present in Iraq, or anywhere else in the world, that suggests that a RV of huge magnitude could or would ever occur. Just a bunch of theories by people who may be doing nothing but profiting on what we "investors" are gullible, or desperate, enough to swallow. Give me negs, call me what you will. If you can provide ONE fact from anyone - CBI, IMF, Adam Montana, etc. - that says this is a valid consideration; I will welcome all the criticism in the world. I very much want a RV - I can't see the logic.

OK I was ready to discredit the bird poop bit but, as a Cleveland fan, the Indians hardly ever win - and they never won in the 1970s unless Gaylord Perry was pitching. So, if Gaylord Perry was not pitching with his spitball, then this bird poop thing might really mean something. Of course, it could just mean that there is a lot of stink surrounding this Iraqi Dinar RV fiasco! But, lets be hopeful - can't be much higher odds than a Cleveland championship!

Of course dinar are still for sale. Ordinary business still dictates some travelers to Iraq will purchase some of the country's currency for expenditures during their visit to Iraq. Your thought that the government ceased sales pending a RV is enticing, but at this time it might have been a nice consumer gesture to stop people from being fleeced. Take a look at all who still keep buying dinars like it is vital water and the last spring is drying up. The bankers and dealers are happy to sell for the spread they make on sell versus buy value. And God knows there is seemingly trillions upon trillions (do I soon hear quadrillions?) of unbacked dinar available to be sold. THEY are the only ones who are and probably will make money on the dinar This dinar investment is an extraordinary illustration of human gullibility, desperation, and greed. Sadly, I too am one of those guilty..

Pudge, I, like so many others, want a favorable RV to occur. I have been following this site diligently for two months now since we were told Thanksgiving was the time. There are many good people, I believe, on this site who will take any hint as big news. It is mind torture for all - even those who BS themselves that they invested chump change or have all the time in the world. There is an equal number who try to refute everything and one does wonder "for what gain" since this site is dedicated to the progression on an investment which most people get into because they anticipate a good opportunity for gain. These people always made the more sense, but that was part of the intrigue of the dinar investment - a previously unheard probability of a major revaluation of currency in a country with phenomenal asset potential. I have noticed that the gurus will spin anything to keep people coming back to buy memberships, more dinar, etc. Even this sites "guru" Adam Montana, in a short chat today, shamelessly plugged VIP membership and his book,etc at least three times. - which, as you mention, brings in large sums of revenue for him and his associates. VIP has great business info but, unless you are already rich with money to spend or hide, one is spending more good money after bad in the hopes of an elusive RV. I would, for once, like to think that honest, devout, elderly, distressed, faithful people - which many here seem to be- would not get screwed. If many want to keep an artificial dream alive and debate about the validity of same-sex marriages, recipes, vacations spots, and many other trivia (all of interest but not common topics for a business investment); this investment and site may never totally be a total loss. Reality sinks in more and more - and it sucks! Many will bash this and give red negs, but can you honestly believe your defenses are still holding much water?

REPLY TO: To me it's just a rumor until it's proven otherwise. C'mon folks, I understand having hope for things to happen. But let's be a little realistic here. This doesn't really mean anything. Until I get a message from Adam, and the CBI website updates, the bank screens could be showin a million 0000s, and it wouldn't faze me. I'm not one of those people that are all doom and gloom, but I try to stay grounded and humble with this investment. I believe in the IQD, and think we will all make quite a handsome ROI, but honestly I think everyone is reading into this too far. I will probably get negged for saying all this. No offense intended JMHO. Read more: Not to pick on you, but you bring up points that irritate me after a while. The purpose of the forum is to share data (very little of which can be CONFIRMED fact and a lot of speculation based on what has been passed on as reliable or plausible data) to stimulate thought. This is an investment that flourishes on positive advancement in a torn country's culture with almost all speculation beyond that. I hope people still post this data, if it is within reason (not "5.48 RV tomorrow and it is done" crap). Even though there are many who will take any news and put a spin that this is the imminent RV; and others on the opposite side who always do their best to squelch any optimism; I would rather see that than someone just posting "GO RV" or "I wait only for Adam's text". That is NO search of info an reliance strictly on others. That is fine too but gives that person no right to criticize any posting data. For the record, I favor the platform that enough is on the table in Iraq that a restructuring of their currency is imminent and needed. I pray it is at least a modest RV. I value to the insight of Adam Montana's research and commentary but realize, beyond the optimism he too shares for this investment, he has a very lucrative agenda with sales of memberships to this website that are based largely on positive RV of the Dinar. Not a criticism at all, just a fact. Welcome to the world of marketing, advertising, and free enterprise with a lot more entertainment than your average vanilla Wall Street stockbroker.

ID RV is iminent. Go RV. 0 LUIGI On another post you just said this IQD would RD (a lop). You actually were insulting to those who would ever think IQD could RV This is exactly what Iraqi Officials been saying all along. It will be a LOP at first, then a RV, finally a float against the Dollar. It can start as early as this month. It may take till 2014 & beyond to complete the entire process. I have got many negatives for saying this before but this is what's coming out of Iraq. Open your eyes & ears. Read what is going on. Research. Rumors are meaningless. Read more: A heck of an example for talking out of both sides of one's mouth. Ever think about applying to be a GURU? You have no credibility!

I SAY OFF WITH ROSY'S HEAD, if it is still attached. I have been checking on all her pumper posts today. I was finding humor originally, but I will admit, it is getting irritating now. I know I can always avoid the post which I will start doing. BUT I wanted to take one more jab at the posts and this time one at GURU ROSY. You want to do us favors, go find that button Shabbibi is supposed to push for the RV. When you find that, then you post ten more worthless predictions.

OIL AND GAS LAW OF THE KURDISTAN REGION – IRAQ Pursuant to the authorities granted to the Presidency of the Kurdistan Region in accordance with the provisions of Article 10(1) of Law No. (1) - 2005 (amended) and pursuant to the legislation enacted by the Kurdistan National Assembly - Iraq under its extraordinary session No. (8) Dated 6/8/2007 we have decided to issue: OIL AND GAS LAW OF THE KURDISTAN REGION - IRAQ Law No. (22) - 2007 Read more: Is this signed? Date of document is June, 2007

HERE YOU GO SHABBIBI PUSH HERE FOR RV!!!!!!!!!

MR DINARMAN Lighten up. This one is so preposterous, one should never have a rise in blood pressure. I have asked Rosy for what she does or takes to maintain her sanity. Or is it maintain her insanity in a sane manner? Take a humorous stance on this one. Where is that magic little button? Is it really within Shabbibi's reach, kind of like the red bat phone was for Commissioner Gordon? And just when is that magical sixth hour or fourteenth hour ( not sure what is happening in the seventh through thirteenth) ? And I hope when they pay us it is on the take side, but I guess I could give $.45 of $5.72 for each dinar. If they insist. Yes, this could be idiotic and childish in its stark appearance. Heck, I feel halfway childish doing this post. Sometimes you just have to laugh!