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Although the post was well intended, I would have left out that link, Popular Mechanics was debunked when it came out.(2005) They claim there were no explosions, so that means many Police and Firefighters were making it all up? (live at the scene) Search "William Rodriguez" last man out and see what he says. (he was there) As for their ridiculous "pancake theory" for the collapse of the twin towers, if you can clap your hands 100 times in 10 seconds, then it could be possible, but no chance. Many different government funded websites and videos have come out to discredit the truth movement, including the "no planes" hologram theory, but if you are researching into 9/11, just keep an open mind and always follow the money. Remember, a conspiracy is real but a theory is just an opinion. Peace and while saying go RV...take a moment to remember all the innocent victims from that day through until today.

Well what facts do you need help with? All you have to do is ask or maybe research. So I have an attitude for giving the OP a plus one? Not sure where you are coming from but you can explain it with your request later.

Always great vids from Jay4...but I see some wooly sob gave you a neg, I'll fix that. Hell I'll post the vid here to...

True RT, from the days of supporting Hitler (Prescott Bush) and then bringing the Nazis to America, who got the NASA space program (Wernher von Braun) going and others (Erich Traub) who ran the germ warfare programs at Plum Island. They also remain close friends with the Bin Ladens..yeah the Bush family are a real treat. Still like to know who Barbara's father really is.

I admit, I am not any loder than you are. Actually you are not worth the effort, period. None of these posts belittle America (notice the capital, we have one to)...this as I said before, is a global crisis, you are not the center of any universe, only your small mind. As you were....

It is not my agenda and if you call the info shyt, back it up with proof or shut it. I am not your son and I am probably older than you. There are thousands of experts (people with an education), Architects and Engineers, Scientists, Military, ect who are giving their time and expertise to uncover the truth behind the events behind 9/11. Many victims and family members are also working to find out who was responsible for this mass murder. You choose to keep your head in your azz and that is your choice, as you are still free to do that, but unless you have something to bring to the table, I suggest you keep your simple mind elsewhere and let the Real Americans solve this crime so the future generations can have a chance at freedom. Take your own advice and "Stick to things you know for sure and not some conjecture to sensation" because it is very obvious that you know nothing about the false flag that was 9/11 and some of us have researched for 10 years and know a coverup when we see one. There are 4 days of hearings on 9/11 going on right now, but you wouldn't know that, so stay away from things you can't understand, or if you enjoy exposing your ignorance keep posting crap and I will keep debunking you. People like you who choose to ignore the victims and their families and the first responders are nothing but pathetic, period.

Where do you get this Eutopia stuff? You like making things up? Your ignorance shines through with your statements. Considering that Canada is much larger that the US and you know very little about your own country, you best leave your opinion about Canada to yourself unless you enjoy exposing your ignorance. Just sayin'

Then stay away from my posts or can you not comprehend the obvious. This is a global problem which you might be able to see if you took your head out of your azz man. As for Canada, go research and learn something, you seem to be one of those who live north of where I am and assume I live in an igloo with polar bears outside. You choose ignorance and I stand by 100%, your right to remain ignorant.

Obvious like who made money on the body scanners...Michael Chertoff.

You're right, no way could the Government do a false flag. Oh but maybe just once back at Pearl Harbor when the attack was "allowed" to happen.. Well actually maybe twice, yeah the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident (declassified) which was faked and cost 59,000 American lives, Problem....Reaction....Solution. You need to turn your TV off, and learn your countries history. Ask your Mom, she's upstairs.

Wow, you really that asleep? Where do you get Global Warming from? We proved it was a hoax years ago, that is why Al Gore changed it to "climate change"...which means you are years behind reality. The Elites "plan" is in writing and has been for a century, you choose not to read and it shows. Actually you didn't listen very well either, but keep trying.

George Humphrey: The Illuminati Engineered Crisis! The Largest Economic Tsunami In History Is Coming ! Good interview with George Humphrey about the plans of the Elite and the Economy.

When you take the words "in the class of" it sounds like it means the value of, which now is .50 and 1.00. So they will be the small coins and the older lower denoms might come out for the RV, at 1:1, and then the newer currency with the 3 languages can be printed and they can do the RD and after the 3 zero notes are finally taken in they can RV again down the road at over 3.00. JMO.

You cannot approach a "conspiracy theory" )if you want to call it that) with an answer. Look into the facts and ask yourself "who could of done it" and work from there, GW is not the answer, only part of the whole picture.

That is a big one for this side of the ring.. http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/

No allow me, I can give you some MSM (NY Daily News). Try researching before you post anything, your making it too easy. As death toll of 9/11 responders nears 1,000, pols want autopsy standards to pinpoint causes BY MICHAEL MCAULIFF DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU Thursday, November 11, 2010 WASHINGTON - The staggering death toll for Ground Zero responders has soared past 916 - and still no one knows what really killed them. Now, nine years after the terror attacks, doctors and some New York lawmakers are urging the federal Department of Health and Human Services to draft autopsy protocols to pinpoint 9/11-related fatalities, the Daily News has learned. Astonishingly, there are no written standards to help doctors diagnose post-9/11 deaths, leaving a void that's wreaked enormous emotional pain and conflict on survivors. "It was heart-wrenching," said Joe Zadroga, who watched his NYPD officer son, James, slowly deteriorate from scarred lungs until he died in 2007. Relatives and friends know in their hearts what really killed the hero in their family - even if health officials refuse to recognize it. "I mean, we knew what he died from. We dealt with it for four years," Zadroga added. A medical examiner in New Jersey had ruled James Zadroga died from 9/11 exposure, only to have the city declare - for a time - that drug abuse killed him. The city later relented, but Zadroga is one of only a handful of people whose death has been officially linked to the toxins of the ruined twin towers. "Many of the responders who worked at the site and other survivors are dying," Reps. Jerry Nadler (D-Manhattan), Pete King (R-L.I.) and Carolyn Maloney (D-Manhattan) say in a letter to the feds, obtained by The News. In a study released in June last year, state officials identified 836 responders who have died since 9/11. Advocates know of at least 80 more and doctors believe the total will be well over 1,000 in the next survey this year. "We do not know to what extent WTC exposures contributed to their deaths, or whether their deaths were unrelated," the lawmakers wrote, seeking a set of guidelines. Such autopsy rules could have huge impacts on people who believe terrorists are to blame for killing their loved ones. "It is very emotional," said Jim Melius, who oversees the 9/11 health-monitoring program. He says autopsies would help doctors understand Ground Zero illnesses and craft better treatments. But autopsies could be double-edged, with some deaths determined to have had little to do with exposure. "It needs to be carefully explained," Melius said, noting a lot can be at stake in work benefits and potential payouts from the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act, stuck in Congress. One advantage could be culling bogus claims that some Republicans say would plague a new 9/11 compensation act. Joe Zadroga, for one, is all for it. "I agree with setting some standards so there wouldn't be fraud," he said. In most cases, it's an easy call. "Most of these guys who are dying are dying from lung conditions and cancers," he said. "My son's lungs were like leather." LINK : And that is from last year...now where is your link to this "national average"? I doubt you will find one. Keep watching your "programs", everything is ok...

Show me the list of families you have, there are many behind a few sites. They speak out all the time, I will assume you don't listen. We are doing much more than you ever will, there is a 4 day hearing going on now in Toronto with family members, and thousands of experts, and military, and scientists ect.. but you didn't know that because you watch TV. Many first responders are either dead or very sick and being ignored...Why? They were not permitted to go to the 9/11 ceremony at Ground Zero. Oh but you didn't know that... Now if you have anything you want to try to debunk me with fire away. Your first two tries failed.

Typical sheeple response, which is not your fault as you have a condition. Fluoride and TV does wonders and once you wake up to how it all works, it is ingenious. Most sheeple will lash out with insults or claim you have hatred towards something or somebody. I didn't see anything about hating his country, I see concern for his country. Are you being serious by saying under the Patriot Act you have freedom in the US? I would recommend you step back and take another look around you, a long look.

Maybe most of the families and victims of 9/11 and most humans on the planet for that matter. Some like you are pathetic patriots and beyond help, so best keep watching your TV and stay away from posts you don't understand. Everything is ok and the economy is booming.

Hey Tyron, just browsing and saw that you had a tough one to crack here... If only people knew that eliminating TV and Fluoride alone would be enough to notice a huge change in consciousness, like a new high one might say. Keep up the info bombs, some will benefit from the research and some will remain asleep until it is too late. Being awake just makes it easier to see the RV coming, we know who the puppet masters are..

You Only Believe the Official 9/11 Story Because You Don't Know the Official 9/11 Story by Jesse Richard I don't believe the official story of 9/11 because I know the official story of 9/11! During the past 10 years I have not met a single individual who, after doing research on the subjectpen, switched from questioning the official narrative of the events of 9/11/2001 to believing the official narrative of those events.. It is always the other way around. Why do you think that is? There are good reasons for this, and I will try to explain this phenomenon right now. The term "conspiracy theorist", perhaps the most misapplied description in our vernacular, is often used to describe 9/11 truthers. Perhaps that term does apply to a segment of the 9/11 truth movement. But in most cases a more accurate description of 9/11 truthers is probably "expert", or "scholar", or "researcher." You see, much of the doubt cast on the official narrative of the events of 9/11 has not come in the form of speculated accusations, or "theories." In fact, it has come in the form of questions that have been raised after a careful study of the official and undisputed events and details. Ten years have passed since the infamous events of September 11th, 2001 took place, and the majority of people still don't know a damn thing about the actual details of that event. They don't know what was going on in the country with regard to our military that day. They don't know the history or the activities of key members of our government, defense establishment or intelligence community, on, or during the weeks, and in some cases the years leading up to that day. They don't know what took place during or immediately following the events of that day. And they don't know what actions were taken by those key people following that event. As is the case with so many issues, people tend to stand strong and argue a position or voice an opinion about an event like 9/11. But, when questioned about the many details surrounding that event they have no answers. They are clueless. And they are, in the end, dumbfounded. I can not tell you how many times I have discussed the events of 9/11 with an outraged citizen who can not believe that I would "accuse our own government" of such a terrible thing as conducting a false flag operation, only to hear the phrase "no, I did not know that, is that true?" repeated over and over as I "educate" them about those little things called DETAILS. I can not count the pale-faced stunned looks on people's faces as I exposed them to some of the "official facts" they never suspected, and never knew. I have walked away from many a confrontation with newly educated "patriotic Americans", only to worry about whether or not they would again resume breathing correctly. They would never do such a thing A common start and end to any intelligent discussion about the events of 9/11 is prefaced by the assumption that no American would betray his or her country by allowing or conducting an attack on the American people. Well, the people who take this position know nothing about history, let alone human nature. They also don't know about the public positions, declarations, speeches and published documents written by the people who ran our nation on that day. False flag operations have taken place for generations, in this nation and nations around the world. Many of these operations have been exposed, but proof of many of these activities is probably hidden away in secret documents that may one day come to light. You can however, start your exploration on the topic by researching one plan for American self-inflicted terrorism that became public, Operation Northwoods. Do I detect my first "I did not know this, is it true?" May I suggest you also peek into the neoconservative teachings of the principles involved in running our nation at the time of the "new Pearl Harbor" that took place in 2001. But the 9/11 Commission did not find anything wrong I can not believe how many people do not know the genesis or mission of the 9/11 Kean Commission. From the initial appointment of one of America's most nefarious political figures as its original leader, Henry Kissinger, - to its executive director whose area of expertise and education were in the creation and maintaining of public myths, Philip D. Zelikow,- people have no idea as to who comprised or what the mandate was for this commission. To give you some kind of idea as to why the "findings" of this commission can NOT be used to back up any talking points on the topic of 9/11, let me remind you what the official task of this commission was. The Kean Commissions was told to document the official story and make national security recommendations based on that story. The only information that was to be included in the official report had to match the official story. If any one member of the committee objected to any testimony or finding, that piece of information was to be left out of the report For some examples of this you can talk to the thousands of people who became 9/11 truthers as a result of their testimony being omitted from and contradicted by the final report. Start with the WTC worker credited with being the last man out of the WTC William Rodriguez. See if he can tell you why, after being invited to the White House and meeting with George W. Bush, his testimony about witnessing explosions in the sub basement of the WTC moments prior to the first plane hitting the building was omitted from the Kean report. And for more details you can read David Ray Griffin's book called The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions And Distortions. It pretty much translated the Kean report into a stack of rather harsh and useless toilet paper. Are the "I did not know this, is it true?" responses piling up yet? Are you even qualified to discuss the issue? What people don't understand when discussing issues like 9/11 is that not everyone is qualified to join the discussion, let alone impose an "opinion" on the topic. 9/11 is not really a topic that is open to opinion. The conclusion you draw from the facts are open to opinion, but what many people don't realize about the 9/11 truth movement is that its opinions are based on facts, and grounded in the reality that its members know more of the facts than the average person. If you have a discussion with a doctor about medicine your opinions and views on the subject don't exactly merit the same consideration as do those of a group of physicians.. Similarly, someone like me (and many 9/11 truthers), has the equivalent of 3 PhD's on topics such as 9/11. I am a full time journalist. I research this kind of stuff every single day and I have been doing so since 2003. Not everyone is qualified to debate me on an issue like 9/11. We can discuss it. You can ask a great number of questions and perhaps inform me about aspects of the issue of which I am not aware. But you can't impose your "opinions" on me, nor can you do that to a majority of 9/11 truthers. And by the way, when it comes to opinions vs. facts, facts win. FOX News watchers don't seem to be able to grasp this concept. People have to realize that what separates the unsuspecting mainstream masses from the 9/11 truth movement are factual information and details. Forget the claims and accusations. You don't need to go that far to understand that there is something fishy going on here. Just look at the official body of evidence. It's all there and it will make your head spin. Don't listen to the accusations, just examine the evidence.You'll understand so much if you really take a good look. In time, if you do your research thoroughly you may just compile a list of suspects, as have many of the 9/11 truthers. I have. But we are not there yet. We really have enough official evidence to lead to quite a few criminal indictments, and I am not kidding about this. But for now let's just talk about the facts and hope that some day we will have the real answers declared by juries in courtrooms. Chances are that many truthers would be proven correct in their accusations - but again, for now, just look at the facts and understand that there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. And, find out that it's okay to say, "I did not know this, is it true?" So, are you qualified to take part in a discussion with a 9/11 truther? If you don't know about the "coincidental" military drills taking place on September 11, 2001, or about the interesting little political cabal known as PNAC or the Project for a New American Century, or if you don't know what WTC7 is, or the 1,500 plus architects and engineers who have serious questions about how and why it dropped like a pancake on 9/11, or if you don't know about the fact that up until his supposed murder, the FBI did not list Osama bin Laden as wanted for the events of 9/11 because, in their own words, they had no proof of his involvement, then you are not qualified to enter a discussion about the event. You have a lot of homework to do before you can chime in. So on you go...study...but finish this article first. I'll bet the ranch that you'll be saying, over and over, "I did not know this, is it true?" Why don't we accept the official story? Here is a question that you should really think about. Don't just chime in with your own uninformed opinion because I am going to give you the answer to this question; the real honest answer. Why do you think I, Jesse Richard, founder of TvNewsLIES.org, have drawn the conclusion that the official narrative of the events of 9/11 is a crock? The answer to that is this...I did not always feel that way. As a matter of fact ,within hours of the event I emailed to all my friends a blistering attack on Islamic fundamentalism. And while some things that happened that day, or did not happen that day, (and week I should say,) seemed odd, I was not immediately suspicious of the "story" being told on TV about the event. It took me almost two years before I saw enough "official" information to make me realize that there was something, actually many things, that were very wrong. I came across so many disturbing, yet official and undisputed facts that I started asking others about it. Most people did not know what I was talking about. Nobody knew the details. So your answer is this...I don't believe the official story because I know the official story! I don't believe the conclusion, and the little tale of 19 buffoons overtaking our national defense all by themselves. The official position on that by the way, is that they, the FBI, have no proof of the identity of the so-called hijackers or that there were any hijackers at all. They are not listed on the passenger lists, but you would not know that. BUT...the official story and facts are what made me realize something was very wrong with the public perception of what took place that day, and who was responsible for what took place that day. The official story, when accepted and believed, morphs by any logic into a total and absolute fabrication! So if you believe the conclusion to the official story, you had better know that story from start to finish. Don't approach this they way the Kean Commission approached it, by starting out accepting the explanation as truth. Study the events, study the officially acknowledged body of evidence and study the people who told you the story in the first place...and I bet it won't be long before you have as many questions as do I about that infamous day and about the people who control our government. And, of course, you'll be saying, "I did not know this, is it true?" Okay, then, who really was behind the attacks on 9/11? 9/11 truthers make the mistake of starting their discussions with conclusions...I am not doing that. All I am saying is that there are a lot of questions about what happened that day that are not answered by the official conclusion or explanation. I would like some answers that add up. I did the math myself and I have my own "theories", but I am a journalist, and I deal in the facts, not the fables. The official story, as fed to the American public is filled with unsupported and implausible explanations designed to convince a gullible public that they should ask no questions and trust their leaders to take revenge on those who hated us for our freedom. Volumes can be, and have been written about so many of them. For the most part, you have not read any of them. In this article, I've posed many questions and have provided links to their answers - so that you will more clearly understand that there is SO much we have not been told about the attacks that took place a decade ago. But, those facts are the tip of a very well hidden iceberg, because there are so many questions that still remain unanswered. So, I will end this article with a sampling of the questions that must be answered, or in the very least, investigated by impartial truth seekers.. They must NOT be ignored, or accepted simply because they were offered to a frightened nation by an administration defined by its lies. They are legitimate questions, based on legitimate suspicions. They are not, for a single moment, conspiracy theories" 1- Why did the news agencies report that , even though it was not hit by a plane, only had a few floors on fire, and gave no indication that it was in any serious danger? 2- Why do we still believe the tale of the 19 hijackerswhen so many of the accused hijackers showed up ALIVE within days? And why do we sill believe the fable of the 19 hijackers when the FBI admitted that they are not sure about either the identity of the hijackers or if there were any hijackers at all? 3- Why was WTC 7 rebuilt, reopened and reoccupied with no press attention? Wouldn't this be an important victory in American resolve and perseverance? 4- Why were the NORAD rules changed for the first time several weeks prior to 9/11, taking responsibility/authority for shooting down hijacked lanes away from NORAD military command for the first time in its history, and given to a civilian, Donald Rumsfeld, and then returned to NORAD the day after 9/11? 5- Why would hijackers planning on attacking NY and Washington DC drive from Florida, pass both DC and NY, and drive all the way to Maine and hinge this huge operation on a connecting flight from Maine to Boston, where we are told they hijacked their plane? Why wouldn't they fly out of any of the airports that are visible from their targets, like Newark, La Guardia or JFK...or even some of the smaller local airports that would have given them a clear easy path to their target and reduce the amount of time that our air defense systems would have to stop them? 6- Who placed all of those put options on the airlines just prior to the event, as if they knew that the stock prices on those specific airlines would lose a huge amount of value? 7- Why did when it was evident that the nation was under attack? If the nation was under attack, and they did not know the scope of the attack, and the president's location was known, how did they not worry about being attacked in Florida?. Why did they act as if they knew that there was no threat? And why, when our nation was under attack, did the president not rush into action? If you say he was concerned about upsetting the children, you are the ultimate apologist. He could have told them that his mommy was on the phone and he had to see what she wanted. Our county was supposedly being attacked and he/they waited 20 minutes before they moved. This is the smoking gun of smoking guns. 8- Why did the FBI never list Osama bin Laden as being wanted for 9/11? Actually, we know this one...because they admitted that they had no evidence linking him to the event. 9- Why was their ? No jet fuel can melt metal, and nothing explainable could melt that much metal and keep it hot enough to remain molten for a month. 10- How did a passport of one of the so called hijackers make it through the huge fireball and end up on the street? 11- Why have photos from the 80+ cameras confiscated at the Pentagon never been released? 12- Why did the airplane that supposedly crashed at Shanksville vaporize so that nothing remained, not bodies, not luggage, not metal, - nothing - for the first time in aviation history? However, we are told that even though the plane , a hand-written note from a hijacker was found. Of course, there are so many more. We deserve the answers. We deserve the right to ask these questions in public forums like the corporate media....who will not touch them with the proverbial ten foot pole. We have gate keepers on the Internet who actively ridicule and dismiss anyone who dares to raise these questions. Will you be one of them? Or, after really thinking about them, will you hope that one day, when we know what went on before, during and after the attacks on 9/11, - we can all say: "I did not know this, but I'm now absolutely convinced that it is true." Think about it...it's really time to think about it. LINK :

So are you calling the "Last man out" a liar? 9/11 Commission omitted his testimony. William “Willy” Rodriguez is his name...research. Families and victims want answers, but not the ones you believe. Exclusive: "Last Man Out" Makes Shocking 9/11 Disclosure Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/79828-exclusive-last-man-out-makes-shocking-911-disclosure

Yes, there are many rabbit holes with Monsanto. You usually bump into that Rumsfeld character in many of the holes. Monsanto's Aluminum resistant gene patent # 7582809 was registered in 2009, and you also see Bill Gates name pop up for his funding efforts. You need to throw in Beiber or GaGa in the title to make it go viral, heck it's hard enough to believe people can't see what is in the skies!

The Toronto Hearings on 9/11 - Live This is the official broadcast site of the International Hearings on the Events of September 11, 2001, at Ryerson University from Sept. 8 to 11, 2011. The official website of the Hearings is: http://torontohearings.org/ http://www.ustream.tv/channel/thetorontohearings

Who do you think won the Republican debate at the Reagan library? Results with 676 short comments Total of 99,225 votes Ron Paul 49% (48,600 votes) Mitt Romney 17.9% (17,773 votes) Rick Perry 14.8% (14,640 votes) Jon Huntsman 7% (6,919 votes) Newt Gingrich 4.7% (4,623 votes) Herman Cain 3.2% (3,223 votes) Michele Bachmann 2.4% (2,356 votes) Rick Santorum 1.1% (1,091 votes) LINK :