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Moose I don't have any kids but I put all of my change in two half gallon Crown Royal bottles I got from the NCO Club when I worked there. One is for pennies and the other for the silver colored coins, they get full and there used to get things nedded for the house.

Adam and mods thanks for everything. Question is the Alantic Treaty Allaince (ATA) that Iraq whats to join. They should have a tradeable currency to join I'm told. This takes place in May, think this will be done in time for them to join the ATA?

Here are the three that were with me at the end of the Vietnam conflict, I was one of two lucky ones that were able to bail out. I think about them everyday, four of us were going to Eglin AFB in Florida and had a reunion party planned for when I arrived at Eglin. Needless to say that reunion didn't take place. I find myself still a little gun shy with load noises. Glibert A. Rovito CAPT - O3 - Air Force - Regular His tour began on Jun 21, 1972 Casualty was on Jun 14, 1973 In , CAMBODIA Hostile, died while missing, HELICOPTER - PILOT AIR LOSS, CRASH ON LAND Body was recovered Panel 01W - Line 119 FRANCIS ELMORE MEADOR 1LT - O2 - Air Force - Reserve His tour began on Feb 10, 1973 Casualty was on Jun 14, 1973 In , CAMBODIA Hostile, died while missing, HELICOPTER - CREW AIR LOSS, CRASH ON LAND Body was recovered Panel 01W - Line 118 DAVID VANCE MC LEOD JR MSGT - E7 - Air Force - Regular His tour began on Jun 14, 1973 Casualty was on Jun 14, 1973 In , CAMBODIA Hostile, died while missing, HELICOPTER - CREW AIR LOSS, CRASH ON LAND Body was not recovered Panel 01W - Line 118

Nadita I come and go, I don't post a lot but I keep up with the site.

SgtFuryUSCZ gals Count me in for helping, I'm also a jack of all trades. With 29+ yrs with the Air Force, from paramedic to firefighter and every thing in between. I've also built my own home and have help with severial others over the years. I don't deal well with roof anymore do to knees going bad, don't do well kneeling.

Haven't seen this clip before but it's great should be seen by all.

Thank Bump

Bumper Great idea, here's one from the unit I was in. These thing we do so That Others May Live, motto of the Pararescumen. Born in 1944 in Piqua, Ohio, William H. Pitsenbarger was an ambitious only child. He wanted to quit high school to join the U.S. Army Special Forces' "Green Berets," but his parents convinced him to stay in school. After graduating in 1962, Pitsenbarger joined the Air Force. A1C Pitsenbarger learned his military skills in a series of demanding schools. After Air Force basic training, he volunteered for pararescue work and embarked on a rigorous training program, which included U.S. Army parachute school, survival school, a rescue and survival medical course, and the U.S. Navy's scuba diving school. More Air Force rescue training and jungle survival school followed. His final training was in air crash rescue and firefighting, with assignment to the HH-43 Huskie helicopter. Arriving in Vietnam in August 1965, Pitsenbarger completed more than 250 missions, including one in which he hung from an HH-43's cable to rescue a wounded South Vietnamese soldier from a burning minefield. This action earned him the Airman's Medal and the Republic of Vietnam's Medal of Military Merit and Gallantry Cross with Bronze Palm. William H. Pitsenbarger was only 21 years old when he was killed in action. But in his short life and valorous Air Force career, he was an example of dedication, compassion and tenacity for all those with whom he served. In his work, and especially on his final mission, Airman 1st Class Pitsenbarger embodied the pararescueman's motto: "That Others May Live." The Last Mission "There was only one man on the ground that day that would have turned down a ride out of that hellhole -- and that man was Pitsenbarger." - F. David Peters, Charlie Company, 2nd Battalion, 16th Infantry, 1st Infantry Division In Vietnam Airman 1st Class William H. "Bill" Pitsenbarger gave his life so that others might live. A pararescueman, Pitsenbarger saved lives in an example of selfless heroism worthy of the Medal of Honor. On April 11, 1966, in thick jungle near Saigon, an infantry company on 134 soldiers from the 1st Infantry Division (the "Big Red One") was surrounded by a Viet Cong battalion of approximately 500 troops. In a fierce firefight, the North Vietnamese surrounded and pinned down the Americans. As the battle went on, the number of U.S. casualties grew steadily. Detachment 6 of the USAF's 38th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron received an urgent call to evacuate the wounded. Army helicopters could not land in the battle zone because there were no clearings in the tall, dense "triple canopy" forest. The tallest trees rose 150 feet, and a second layer stood at about 100 feet, with a third layer below. Only U.S. Air Force HH-43 Huskie helicopters with cables and winches could hoist the injured from the jungle. Airman Pitsenbarger was the rescue and survival specialist aboard "Pedro 73," one of the two Huskies on the mission. The Huskies were to take turns hoisting litters with critically wounded patients through the forest canopy and delivering them to a nearby airfield. Pedro 73's crew, while under fire and hovering in a hole in the forest below the tallest trees and barely large enough for the Huskie, saw that the ground troops desperately needed help loading wounded into the litter. Pitsenbarger volunteered to be lowered to the ground to help. He descended a hundred feet into the firefight with a medical bag, a supply of splints, a rifle and a pistol. On the ground, Pitsenbarger organized and speeded the evacuation, enabling the Huskies to rescue nine soldiers on several trips. Normally, pararescuemen return to the helicopter, but Pitsenbarger chose to stay and help the beleaguered troops. As the fight continued, Pedro 73 was badly damaged by ground fire and forced to withdraw. Rather than escape with the last Huskie, Pitsenbarger chose to stay on the ground and aid the wounded. Soon the firefight grew too intense for the helicopters to return. As darkness fell, Pitsenbarger not only cared for the wounded, but also collected and distributed ammunition to the surviving soldiers several times under enemy fire. In the early evening he was mortally wounded fighting alongside the remaining infantrymen. The Viet Cong withdrew during the night, and the following morning U.S. forces were able to recover survivors and the fallen. Charlie Company had suffered 80 percent casualties. For coordinating the successful rescues, caring for the wounded and sacrificing his life while aggressively defending his comrades, William H. Pitsenbarger received the Air Force Cross on June 30, 1966. After review, the original award was upgraded, and on Dec. 8, 2000, the Medal of Honor was presented to his family in a ceremony at the U.S. Air Force Museum. Airman Pitsenbarger is the 59th Medal of Honor recipient, and sixth enlisted recipient, from the Air Force and its predecessor organizations. Click on the following links for more information about Pitsenbarger. Museum News Release on Medal Ceremony Air Force News Release on Medal Ceremony Special Operations Command News Release Mission Chronology and Maps Detachment 6, 38th ARRS Mission Narrative for April 11, 1966 Eyewitness Account by Staff Sgt. David E. Milsten Eyewitness Account by Army Sgt. Fred C. Navarro Background Information by Airman 1st Class Harry J. O'Beirne Click here to return to Combat Search and Rescue in Southeast Asia.

Reminds me of the reception I received by many when I returned from Southeast Asia. Didn't make any difference what I said I was still the bad guy.

Dog and Rayz I agree with both of you this country shoundn't stand for either one to happen. I don't know where dave gets his info but most that I have read for far is off the wall and is shat.

I'll wait and see what happens and what the rate is. I plan on helping several disabled vets I know and setting up some housing for others that need it. Then dropping out of sight.

like them all (4), but I'll vote for # 1

Where can I get one for civilion use. After RV of course.

In bear country while hiking I like to carry my 20ga with sabot slugs, 3inch magnums with a 26 inch barrel. And that is without the magazine plug. I live in bear country and have momma and cubs come through my yard once in a while (black and grizzly). And by the way good joke and handguns are hard to come by in Canada.

All kid between the ages of 12 and 16 should be required to work a dairy farm or a truck farm to learn what work is. We may have fewer problems andYES the paddle needs to come back into the system.