The Eagle

All of a sudden the blogs have gone negative on the RV. "Guru's" Sonny1, Med and another site all made statements to the effect that there will be no RV now or in the near future. On the other hand, Okie and his lot are silent on the subject. Thinking back over the last year, the blog sites have been "absolutely certain" of an RV at any minute. Now the nay-sayers are telling us that Iraq never promiosed an RI/RV only the Gurus have pushed the RV. If I was a suspecious type I would think that all the hype is just that and that Iraq (as they have stated many times) plans on a LOP ONLY. I can't help but suspect that some Gurus are in fact working indirectly for the private Dinar sellers. I am also suspecious of the many banks that have sold Dinars in the past are no longer doing it. Do they suspect retaliation from the masses if this all falls down? I for one have been persuaded by the posts that this is real and about to happen. Today, I have to question my beliefs in light of the silence from the most vocal Gurus and the negative posts that started appearing in the last two weeks. I still believe an RV makes sense for Iraq the world, but with O withdrawing our troops from the sand box and silence from the GOI, I have to question if this will come to pass. SO, what is it? Is this real or just a big hype to sell Dinars to the unsuspecting public? If it's the later, I would not want to be one of the most vocal pumpers. If this is a hoax those guys will need a place to hide form the million individuals that followed their "advice". If any of you have a handle on this - either pro or con, please respond. Praying for the RV

Think of all the new gurus like Obama thinks of szars - the best way to isolate ones self from taking any responsibility is by appointing demi-gods to surround you.

This is not a rumor. I have been in touch with my WF branch manager for months regarding the RV. Every time his response was "I've heard nothing yet". This morning I went to WF to cash a check the branch manager called me over to tell me that they have been allerted to "get ready" for the revaluation of multiple currencies. I reminded him to call me when it happens and he replied that I was to be his first call. BTW, the manager and both loan officers are Dinarians..... I wonder how many hours after the RV before they quit and go off to a better life... Come on RV

Does this send off an alarm??? If the RV is imminend why are all these gurus upgrading their sites and selling more pre-RV services. Smells like we are being duped again by the hustlers. At this point, I can't believe anybody - even though I want to. One has to question the real potrential here. My gut tells me this is a good investment but all the lies and disinformation is making me dizzy. I've come to accept that we might (likely) get the short end of this while DT, DB and the others make millions on the gullible.

First, I am not an accountant or an attorney. My thoughts are the conclusion of a discussion with my tax attorney. I asked "why do I need a trust?" His answer was (in my case) that it would be a waste of $$ and lead to significant additional taxes. He pointed out to me that most trusts benefit the attorney setting them up and not the trustee. He stated that the current MAX long-term rate was 15%. So if I lived in a tax-free state I should deposit my Dinar money directly into my savings account and be done with it. If I decide to put some money onto a trust or LLC I will face an income tax from MY OWN MONEY as i withdrew it from the trust or LLC! His advice to me was to forget about LLC's and Trusts (other than a charitable remainder trust) and use my savings to buy land and hard assets. (Stay in the Dollar until RE and Gold bottoms, then jump into both) I'd appreciate comments from those who feel trusts are necessary. To me, paying 15% off the top and NOTHING MORE - EVER is the way to go. If you want to leave $$ to children on a metered basis then a trust might make sense. For me, I will cash in as much as I can as the Dinars become long term (to me) and simply deposit the cash. Our taxes have never been more favorable towards capital gains as they are today. Next year, who knows??? Also, DO NOT GIVE CASH TO SIBLINGS. Rather, give them the Dinars to cash out on their own. Otherwise, you will pay the cash-out tax, then the gift tax, and then they will pay the taxes all over again as they cash out. By the time you give each child $1 million the government will have 55% or more of it. I have given Dinars to my children along with a dated bill of sale. This way none of us will pay double taxes. If 10% is good enuf for Jesus then 15% should be plenty for Uncle Sam. GO RV by Thursday

Facts not Metafores please

All of a sudden we have gone from an imminent RV @ $8.47 to "maybe next year @ $1". What changed that created this sudden turn-around? Seems we have been here many times in the last 2 years. One has to question if this is real in the first place, or only real in Tony nd Okie's mind. I for one have wasted too much time and hope on this. It's back to work for me. This way I can (hopefully) awake to a suprise someday without the continuing daily anticipation and inivatable depression. Nuff is Nuff. RV wishes to all....

Every day we wake to some guru stating that today is the "day". Okie and the PTR guys keep churning up the hype - for what reason? If they are nor "pumpers", why are they telling all these lies? Today one post stated that we will be cashing out on the 30th, while another states that "maybe" 2012-2013 for the RV. After 15 months at this I am pissed and tired. I suggest that we hold every guru responsible for their quotes - especially the ones where they clain to have inside information. It's all BS. If anyone of these guys or gals really knew the rate/date they would end up swimming with the fishes if they talked. Frankly, I don't believe that Shabibi knows at this point. NO MORE of this "IMHO" stuff. Either they have facts or they are just guessing and posting this stuff to sound like they are connected. NUFF IS NUFF. We don't deserve this.

Guess most of you have never played polker. The first rule is ALWAYS go with the odds. From the hundreds of posts from those who haven't done their research, or suck up every unfounded rumor as absolute fact, you are in unfamiliar territory and you shouldn't be here. But, by luck and the grace of God you are here. Rest assured that you will look back to this day (very soon) and tell yourself how smart you were to make this investment. Today you are in panic mode and tomorrow .... you'll see. Stop worrying about the Dinar. This investment was never intended for us little guys. We're in the big boys league, and like a flee on a big dog we're going where the big dog goes - like it or not. Big dogs NEVER loose. Rest assured that you will become wealthy beyond your expectations very soon. Take a few days away and don't even worry about your future. It's being made for you by the big dogs. In 2-3 weeks your life will change forever. Make sure that you are a good stewart of the bounty you are about to receive by first securing your family's future, and then going for the fun stuff.. >7/15 @ $8.15 GO BIG RV<

ABSOLUTELY TRUE STORY. CIRCA 1967, Business School in Boston. While discussing the difficulties of doing business with Middle Eastern countries, especially sectarian countries, a question was posed to the prof related to future commerce and the growing obstacle of Sharia (then in its infancy). The question was related to our way of life versus theirs taking into consideration their explosive population potential (now realized) and years of brainwashing of their citizenry. Faced with a battle of ideas on the horizon he was asked "what is the solution to this dilemma"? After playing with his beard and staring at the ceiling for about a minute he turned to the class of 30 and said "I believe the unavoidable solution will be to turn the entire area into a sheet of glass and start over". NOT MY PERSONAL CHOICE but a true answer from a very forward thinking prof. Let's pray that common sense will rule in Iraq and infect the entire area with peace and democracy before it becomes a skating rink. It's quite possible that this RV will prove to be the turning point toward a more peaceful ME. It's also quite likely that Iraq is going to make us stinking rich. So, no matter what happens make sure you secure your family and fortune ASAP and enjoy life for as long as we have it. GO BIG RV

THIS WAS NOT FALSE INFO. THIS IS STRAIGHT TRUTH. GUESS I WON'T BE SHARING ANYMORE WITH THIS GROUP. GOODBY

Like you and all of us the news was "certain" that last Thursday was the announcement. I too was sucked in by the rumor mill. But Friday was different. I actually has unsolicited confirmation that something big was occuring regarding the Dinar. This from a bank in a small town that is far from the top of the Wells org.

On Friday I went to my local Wells bank to do a wire transfer for some Dinars. When I arrived the bank was very busy so one of the loan managers handled my transaction. When he saw the word "dinar" in the notation area of the wire app he asked me if I had many Dinars. To my surprise I answered "yes, many". He immediately asked if I would like to meet the manager, who was brought over immediately to introduce herself. She said she was aware of something happening with the Dinar, and that something big was happening "NEXT WEEK". She said that they were heavy in cash as all of Wells Fargo appears to be, and that her staff would be happy to help me with RE purchases and trusts. Then a personal banker appeared and made his introduction. I played right along as if I expected them to know all that I did and left the bank with a smile and heightened confidence. This was the FIRST TIME I have EVER had direct confirmation that the Dinar was about to RV. As an aside, I asked if they had seen the new Treasury Notes that have been shown on the Gold commercials (The US continues to print money}. THese are the new Treasury Notes that will soon replace our Federal Reserve notes after the IQD revalues. Hang on folks, we're in for one exciting ride. Go RV over 3

Dinar Inc through their subsidiary Dinar Global has stated many times that they are experts on Iraq and that there is no RV happening. Dinar Global is an MLM offshoot of Dinar Inc and after only 4 weeks from kick off went silent abruptly two weeks ago when the CEO was scheduled to make an important CC from Baghdad. The call was canceled at the last (literal) minute without explanation. Since then - silence. Maybe they got there and found out that the RV was in fact really happening and then made the decision to stop. They are still selling DInars but no more on the MLM network. Go figure.. Looks like someone might have egg on their face. Go RV over 3

First thing tomorrow I recommend that all Dinar investors, regardless of age, go to the market and buy a box of Depends. Then wear them until the thrill of the RV is past, Don't want to have any embarrassing accidents when we get the news now do we..... Thursday could very well be the day of Jubilation.

Too Late? No way. Silver has been purposely depressed by JP Morgan and the Chinese Government for years. Now that there's a real shortage of silver these guys can no longer afford to buy spot silver and then dump it at a loss to bring the market down. Silver is on a free run and will top $250 in 24 months - and you can bet your boots on that!

STOP WORRYING ABOUT A LOP. If you and I were the only holders of Dinars Iraq would screw us in a New York second. But if Uncle Sam is the major player, we're just along for the ride. It's been stated in print and prophesy that Iraq would soon become the worlds strongest nation (once again). What makes a nation powerful? Its MONEY, not arms. Without money you quickly run out of ammunition but with money you can buy all the weapons you need to protect your nation. For America to remain as strong as the "strongest nation in the world" America must capitalize big on this event. LOP's would only multiple the Dinars value by 4-5 times at best. America is greedy and so is Maliki. You can sleep confident tonight with the knowledge that we are dealing with major power brokers who play for high stakes - not peanuts. We're just small fry floating upstream with the big fish. Count on at least a par valuation ($1/Dinar) and more likely something in the stratosphere - maybe $3.75 TO $4.75 depending on how confident the GOI is about their near future. Don't forget, Iraq has Oil, Gas and Water. And it's sweet crude oil too - close to the surface and easy to refine. Talk about a literal goldmine. I started out as a cautions skeptic but after a year of research I'l feeling very confident in an unimaginable value - and on Monday no less. Plan on $3.00 and you'll be right in the ballpark. Go RV on the 1st

Silver is definitely the investment to make! But I'd caution you to stay away from the secondary metals market (like KBGold) unless you are making a small (under $50K) investment. For the serious Dinarian I strongly recommend this strategy: 1. Set up an LLC in Nevada or Arizona 2. Cash out and put 10% into your PERSONAL account, and 90% in the LLC 3. Invest most of the LLC's cash in Silver Bullion (US Minted ONLY) through MONEX or similar bullion seller that stores the bullion for you 4. Establish two separate accounts within the LLC - one for you and one for Federal Taxes (35%) 5. On April 10th, 2012 call MONEX (or whoever) and tell them to sell the original tax investment portion at market and transfer the funds to your checking account to pay the 2011 taxes The sales or purchases of US Minted silver and gold does not trigger a 1099 whereas foreign currency sales definitely do. Please note: I am not an attorney or tax professional, just a quick study when it comes to areas of interest. Please seek professional advice on your own before making any move. Silver is currently at $47 and will hit $55 before we can cash in. No worries though, silver is a $400 value and on its way there. I believe you can triple your silver investment over the next 18 months. DO NOT let your God Blessed wealth sit in your bank account (in the form of cash) for more than a day. Call a major bullion supplier and BUY SILVER BULLION with your money. Otherwise it will sit in a bankl account, loosing 5% in value every month. Make sure this new found gift last for your childrens lifetime. THURSDAY is a day we will all remember - the day the world of money changes - the greatest shift of wealth in the world. Hang on to your hats folks, we're all in for one hell of a ride. GO BIG TIME RV

Under any other conditions an RV will be announced in "the dead of night" when least expected as it was in Kuwait. But these are not normal times. Unlike Kuwait when they RV'd Iraq is under considerable pressure both inside and out to revalue the Dinar and join the world circus. Even S stated within the last few daze that the Dinar would be revalued. It's not a matter of IF, its a matter of RATE. When is soon so it is not an issue. The rate however is all over the map from 8/10th of a cent (loping 1 zero) to over $6.00 without a LOP. Since a LOP is highly unlikely, it's a matter of what the CBI has set for a rate. While it's in the hands of the BIS we can speculate on the rate. One thing for certain is the need for many new denominations (down to 1/10 of a DInar as a minimum). With 25 Dinars being the (current) lowest denomination (currently worth 2.125 cents) increases 10 times (lopping 1 zero or RVing at $0.0085) would make the 25 Dinar coin equivalent to our quarter in value. Iraq will need to create at least 6 additional coins or paper valued at 10, 5, 1, 1/2, 1/4 and 1/10th Dinars to have a complete currency set. For every order of magnitude increase in value (RATE) an additional level of currency will be required. Let's assume the Dinar revalues to $3. That means the 25 Dinar coin is equivalent to $75 USD! In this case 1/100th of a DInar would be equivalent to 75 cents, so at least three additional denominations would be required to make the currency usable (1/500th, 1/1000th and 1/5000th Dinars equivalent to 15 cents, 7.5 cents and 1.5 cents). OR, Iraq can RV high, capture all the triple zero bills from individuals and work out cash-in agreements between nations holding Dinars like the US, and then issue a new currency concurrent to the old currency which the CBI will capture and retire. Every common sense opinion points to this conclusion - RV high and issue new currency. We haven't long to wait on this blessing to occur. Too much external pressure has pushed this through Maliki's political roadblocks and on to the BIS. Whe Okie says the deal is done, for once we can believe him. He's talking about Iraq's part that's done - not the BIS. If Iraq was to stay with the current currency denominations I believe that a 8/10th of a cent is the maximum rate that they can set. But if they plan to replace everything (after the RV) then any rate could be justified. My gut says we will see a big-time rate announced on the 28th - the last Thursday of the Month. GO BIG RV!

What in the world are these guys smoking? These numbers sound great to a newbee but they spell LOP all over them. Get a grip! Any RV number over 85 cents is ALMOST CERTAINLY a LOP. LOP means you LOOSE. No LOP means we all WIN.

Look, ANY yes ANY removal, deletion, or whatever that removes the three zeros is a LOP and very bad for us - it just reduced the potential value of 1 Dinar by 1,000 - not to our advantage. Although an RV at 75 cents makes more sense and would be fantastic for us, we can't ignore the constant press about the three zeros. If someone can show us how a LOP is not possible please do so. We are all very anxious and interested.

Tonight Delta went through the difference between raising (retrieving?) three zeros and lopping three zeros. His explanation was that a lop would effect all denominations whereas "raising" three zeros means collecting them and removing them from circulation while introducing the lower denominations (I thought these were already in circulation - see the CBI site at www.cbi.iq). Delta said that the rate had been set but didn't talk about it much. If there is no lop, only an RV, one has to ask "at what rate"? Looking at the hard facts (the cbi's currency) we'll see that the lowest denomination is a 25 Dinar coin yet to be issued. How much in real (USD) money should 25 Dinars be worth after RV? If 25 Dinars is the lowest form of currency in circulation then it has to be their equivalent of the nickle in our terms. That means an RV of only $0.002 per Dinar. This would make 25 Dinars worth a nickle and the 25,000 Dinar note worth $50. It would give Iraq a complete currency set - 5 cents, 10 cents, 20 cents, 50 cents, $1, $2, $5, $20, and $50 denominations in USD terms. Any RV higher than $.002 would require the creation of yet smaller denomination coins. Tonight's call was not encouraging. Please show me where I'm going wrong here.

How can this be good? Deleting the three zeros before the low denoms are made available through the ATM's sounds like a LOP to me. Unless the LOP occurs weeks AFTER the rate is published I don't see a good outcome here. 1 million Dinars becomes 1,000 (each worth 86 cents) plus an RV bump to $3-5 gives us a 3-6X return on our investment. Someone please explain how this is good news.

No LOP sounds great. But how about this? Sure sounds like LOP to me. Iraq’s Central Bank announced on Tuesday that the project of Iraqi Dinar re-denomination consisting of removing three zeroes is close to completion. The re-denomination project is believed to be a strategic plan that will be passed to the ministerial council and Parliament once complete. The plan to remove three zeroes from the Iraqi Dinar is a strategic plan that the central bank is currently finalizing, Central Bank’s advisor Mothahhar Mohammed Saleh said in a statement to Alsumaria News.