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Did it ever occur to any of you...that with all of this new found POWER, Obama and the group of twelve may abolish elections, and just stay in power forever......??

From My Currency Newslater, and I quote: WORLD CURRENCY WATCH>> July 17, 2011 What’s Better than Buying Iraqi Dinar? By Sean Hyman, Editor, Currency Cross Trader Dear Theresa, The Iraqi dinar is one of those Internet sensations that have swept the worldwide web faster than the email that claims “You can see what looks like two moons when Mars moves really close to the earth!” (Astronomers have debunked that myth, by the way.) As you can imagine, as currency traders, my colleagues and I get questions about the Iraqi dinar all the time. And it’s not just us. Our friends in the money management business from Denmark, Austria and Canada all receive inquiries about the Iraqi dinar on a daily basis. So we felt it was time to set the record straight... Not Just Speculative - a Shot in the Dark The short answer is as a currency investment, the Iraqi dinar is sorely lacking in the fundamentals that you want when you buy a currency for the long-term. You would be much better off simply buying gold or other exotic currencies for the long run (more on that in a moment). Besides being an oil nation (and let’s face it: there are plenty more desirable oil nations out there), Iraq is not what we would classify as a politically sound country. After all, they just put their new constitution together in 2005. And long-term growth? Stability? That’s all debatable in Iraq. But all that aside, what’s more important is you can’t trade the Iraqi dinar. The dinar is NOT one of the 60 tradable currency pairs in the $4 trillion Forex market. That means the big institutional players don’t want anything to do with this currency. If they did, you would be able to trade it. Instead, only the most speculative retail, individual investors are buying into this Iraqi dinar theory. That’s a bit concerning. It tells me that these retail investors have been sold a bill of goods - not a real asset with long-term value. In fact, I look at this currency more like a penny stock than anything else. It’s extremely risky, more like a shot in the dark than a long-term currency play. That’s why none of my colleagues recommend the dinar. We would much rather focus on the exotic currencies that have a chance of gaining in value - and can protect you should the dollar fall over the long run. What’s Better to Hold for a Revaluation As a currency, most speculators have been buying the Iraqi dinar because they are hanging their hats on a potential revaluation. Various websites have been claiming this revaluation will happen since 2004. But let’s assume for a second that Iraq did revalue their currency. That does NOT mean the currency will necessarily leap in value compared to the U.S. dollar. After all, “revaluing the currency” didn’t help anyone holding the Turkish lira a few years back. In 2005, the Turkish government revalued the lira from 1,350,000 lira into 1.35 lira. In other words, the government slashed six zeroes off the price of the lira. But in reality, the “new lira” was still worth the same amount. Suddenly, 1.3 million lira became 1.35 lira, yet it was still only worth a dollar. Now could the same thing happen in Iraq? Sure, anything is possible. That’s why I would much rather focus on more stable emerging markets with currencies that have a much higher statistical probability of rising in value. For instance, the Chinese renminbi... The “Trade of the Decade” According to the Real Experts At this year’s Global Currency Expo, five different currency experts recommended you buy and hold the Chinese renminbi for the next 10 years (that includes yours truly). (By the way, not one expert at our sold-out currency conference recommended you buy the Iraqi dinar - and these guys are the top of their fields.) So why buy the renminbi? It’s more than just the real possibility the Chinese will revalue their renminbi once again, or even let it free-float. The most respected financial minds in the industry are saying that the Chinese renminbi will eventually replace the U.S. dollar as either the next, or one of the next reserve currencies of the world. That means central banks which currently hold dollars, euros and gold in their coffers will be able to stockpile tradable Chinese renminbi instead. Scary thought, right? It would be a devastating blow to the U.S. dollar, and would force the dollar/renminbi exchange rate to plummet. Iraqi Dinar Won’t Help If the Dollar Loses Its Reserve Status More importantly, it also means the dollar will have some competition for pricing of the world’s commodities. If commodities were priced in anything but dollars, everything you buy on a daily basis would skyrocket in price. As a country, we would be forced to pay for real commodities with real assets (not just more printed dollars), like all other countries in the world do now. Buying the Iraqi dinar wouldn’t help you there. But buying the currency that commodities could potentially be priced in (like the renminbi) would offer some protection. Beyond the renminbi, I still say it’s not too late to buy gold. If you have long-term investable assets, why not buy a hard asset that climbs every time the dollar falls? With the talk of QEIII this past week, it just gives us one more excuse to buy gold. I can see gold topping $2,000 an ounce in the future. Again, no “revaluation” necessary... just the steady moving hand of the market. Bottom line: There are plenty of reasons NOT to buy the Iraqi dinar this year, and plenty of great reasons to buy renminbi or gold instead. So I say stick to the assets that have value, and leave the dinar for the speculators who don’t know any better. Sean Hyman Editor, Currency Cross Trader P.S. One more reason to NOT buy the Iraqi dinar: My buddy Evaldo, who studies off-the-radar currencies as exotic as the Israeli shekel, Polish zloty, and Czech koruna doesn’t even follow the Iraqi dinar. Why? Simple. He would rather buy and sell the tradable exotic currencies that you can profit off daily (without waiting for a revaluation in the future).

A message from Arthur M. Harrison to all members of Dinar on Beyond Organics! Subject: Progress A new agreement between the Ministry of Defense, U.S. and Iraqi Monday, July 11, 2011 Political sources confirmed that there is a new agreement for which negotiations are currently taking place between the Pentagon and the Iraqi Ministry of Defense in order to pass a new agreement under the title "training and armament." The sources said the new agreement being plotted behind the scenes authorizes the survival of approximately 16 000 U.S. troops to stay in Iraq. She added that he would pass this agreement without reference to the House of Representatives under the name of the agreement protocol, and thus exempt the House of Representatives for his opinion that the agreement is a memorandum dialogue protocol. (Article is under "Security Policy") http://translate.goo...=www.alrayy.com Hope this is part of the defense program that Adam was referring to in his Chat last week!

Gee Whiz! My old computer crashed about two weeks ago. I do have a new TOSHIBA smaller laptop that I purchased for traveling, but it Will not accept the larger chip and adapter that I used on my old larger DELL Model. Now, I am wondering what I can do to still use my digital Camera and download the photos into my computer since it uses only the larger chip. I cannot purchase new equipment until after RV! I did make scans of my dinar to record the serial numbers, but do not think I know how to send them in a small format to this forum. I can send them in an email>>> Please advise, and I will do it, but it will not have my username in the background.

I just read this yesterday. It was written in April by Benjamin Fulford. I do not know if this is truth, or if Mr. Fulford is an agent of mis-information of the the ABC boys, but your comments are welcome, if you have an knowledge of Mr. Fulford's truth or fiction. In end game indicator, Federal Reserve Board selling Dinars and paper dollars in Japan to pay US embassy bills Posted by benjaminApril 26, 2011 In a sign the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate is on its last legs, the US Embassy in Tokyo, Japan is selling Iraqi Dinars and US dollar cash bills via yakuza gangs in order to pay its bills, according to yakuza sources. The bills are being sold via corrupt officials in the Tokyo public prosecutors’ office who are then selling them to yakuza gangsters in exchange for Japanese yen, the sources say. One Iraqi Dinar was worth $3.8 before the US invaded but fell to 2 cents afterwards at which point the Feds bought them all up, according to MI6 sources. They are now selling them worldwide, along with blacklisted US paper bills in order to keep the Federal Reserve Board and its Washington D.C. subsidiary going a bit longer. Buyers beware because you will sooner or later find out you traded good money for high quality tissue paper[size="3"][/size].

Just got this in my email today, and thought I would share it ..... not that I agree, but apparently this is what mainstream wall street is wriing about the Dinar RV. I hope I did not post it in the wrong place. Not too saavy on how to post or start a new subject in this forum. Sovereign Man Notes from the Field Date: May 13, 2011 Reporting From: Santiago, Chile Have you heard the rumors about the Iraqi dinar? Week in, week out, we receive at least 2-3 questions about this. The 'word on the street' is that the Iraqi government is set to "increase" the value of the dinar, essentially re-peg it against the dollar by 2, 10, even 100 times its current value. In other words, rumor has it that if you're sitting on $1,000 worth of Iraqi dinar, that after the re-pegging, that same dinar will be worth up to $100,000, practically overnight. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it just isn't true... and I wanted to take some time today and lay these rumors to rest since it's such a popular question within this community, and I know that there are some people scrambling to pick up dinar. In 2010, the Central Bank of Iraq did announce plans to 'redenominate' the Iraqi dinar, effectively chopping off a few zeros from the nominal value of the bank notes. But the actual value in US dollar (or euro, gold, oil, wheat, etc.) terms would remain unchanged. Any potential upside in the Iraqi dinar is in becoming a free-floating, market based currency. Many currencies in the Middle East including the United Arab Emirates dirham and Saudi riyal are pegged to the US dollar. So is the Iraqi dinar. Iraq's peg is set by the International Monetary Fund because, at this time, there is no international market for the dinar. In time, I suspect the dinar may break away from this fixed rate (similar to how Kuwait abandoned its dollar peg several years ago) and appreciate against the dollar. Over time, this would result in single or double digit returns, however, not overnight fortunes of making 100 times your money. I still own some of the old Saddam Hussein dinars, they're just collectors items for me, nothing more. Bottom line: don't believe the hype about the dinar. Even if you're bullish on the country and think that a market valued dinar will appreciate, you would still have to hold the investment in cold, hard cash. There are better proxies for Iraqi growth, particularly in Kurdistan. We'll explore those another time.

This ought to make yer day..... Be careful of where you send your donations. Not for profits (Charities) As you open your pockets for the next natural disaster, please keep these facts in mind: The American Red Cross President and CEO Marsha J. Evans salary for the year was $651,957, plus expenses and other perks. The United Way President Brian Gallagher receives a $375,000 base salary along with numerous expense benefits. UNICEF CEO Caryl M. Stern receives $1,200,000 per year (100k per month) plus all expenses including a ROLLS ROYCE !! Less than 5 cents of your donated dollar goes to the cause!! (THERE SHOULD BE A LAW AGAINIST THIS TYPE OF FRAUD !!). (Of course this is handled by the U.N. what else could you expect??) The Salvation Army’s Commissioner Todd Bassett receives a salary of only $13,000 per year (plus housing) for managing this $2 billion dollar organization and 96 percent of donated dollars go to the cause. The American Legion National Commander receives a $0.00 zero salary. 100% of your donations go to help Veterans and their families and youth! No further comment should be necessary. Please share this with everyone you can.

At the time of the Japanese Earthquake disaster, last month, we we had a chat here at Dinar Vets, and Adam suggested we take up a donation for the victims. I was quite shocked that he suggested, and actually sent the collected funds to the AMERICAN RED CROSS. At the time, I posted my objection saying that I objected to war, and that the American Red Cross is part of the Military Industrial Complex. Today I received an email that goes into much more detail about how corrupt the AMERICAN RED CROSS organization really is. I did not write this, but am posting it for your information only. Please do your own research to verify the allegations. The Illuminati Controlled Red Cross April 14/11 Rumormill News The Illuminati Controlled Red Cross April 14/11 Posted By: Mr.Ed [send E-Mail] Date: Sunday, 17-Apr-2011 21:56:08 The Illuminati Controlled Red Cross April 14/11 Here are several articles on the Red Cross and what they do with disaster money... Not pretty... The Red Cross Racket From Ken Adachi Editor@educate-yourself.orgThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it 9-4-5 The American Red Cross or the International Red Cross, like the International Monetary Fund (IMF) or the World Bank, is an Illuminati-controlled front organization whose true purpose is completely opposite from their stated purpose. The IMF tells the world that they are there to "help" counties recover from economic difficulties (which the IMF and World Bank helped to create in the first place), but in reality, the IMF breaks counties and ruins their economies. The same could be said of the Red Cross. The moment a 'natural' disaster like Hurricane Katrina roars through the southeast, radio and TV spots flood the airwaves seeking monetary donations to be sent to the Red Cross. With heartstring music playing in the background, the radio announcer tells us that the Red Cross is "always there in time of need" and now that the "poor victims of Hurricane Katrina are suffering" with this terrible tragedy, "won't you open your heart" and make a" generous" donation? Oh Brother, these guys have the science of bilking people down to a fine art! I can't take the time to get into a long essay about the Dark Side of the Red Cross, but just try to recall what happened after 9-11: The dust from the World Trade Center collapses hadn't even settled before the call went out immediately from the Red Cross to give blood and money to help the victims and the families of the 'terrorist' attack. Thousands of people gave blood and even more gave millions upon millions of dollars to the Red Cross. The first question that occurred to me when the Red Cross started asking for blood was: "Blood for whom?". Everyone was dead! We knew everyone was dead from the very beginning, so why is the Red Cross asking for blood donations day and night for about a week or more? The answer is reflective of the true purpose of the the Red Cross: the Red Cross is a disaster racket which is in the business of making money from disasters-especially from engineered disasters. They sell the blood, of course, but they apparently also use the blood for other things which the public is generally not privy to. And what do they do with the money? For the most part, they keep it for themselves! Recall how the families of the victims of 911 had to badger, harass, and threaten the Red Cross in an attempt to get some 11 million dollars that they would not release to the families-even a year later? And that's what we were told in the media, but how much money did the Red Cross really rake in from 9-11? The CEO of the Red Cross and other corporate celebrities receive obscene salaries and other big buck perks, while other charities operate on much leaner budgets for use by the charity itself. As I type this short article, I now check my e-mail and find 4 or 5 articles devoted to precisely the same topic, so in order to save time, I'll let others finish the story for me: Forward courtesy of Robert Busser rbusser@charter.netThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it To: Editor Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 7:07 AM Subject: Fw: Red Cross CEO Pulled Down $651,957 in Comp Pkg http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists/14/2004/ American National Red Cross emergency relief Washington, DC http://www.redcross.org Top Person: Red Cross President Marsha Evans Top Salary:* $651,957 Total Revenue FY ending 6/2003: $2,946,000,000 (That's Two BILLION, 946 million) "...One charity has stayed above all this for 137 years. The Salvation Army is unique among all U.S. charities for many reasons. Let's start at the top. Commissioner Todd Bassett receives a salary just $13,000 per year (plus housing) for managing this $2 Billion dollar organization. By comparison, Brian Gallagher, President of the United Way receives a $375,000 base salary (plus numerous expensive benefits) and the Red Cross President Marsha Evans receives $450,000 plus benefits..." full article: http://www.conservativetruth.org/article.php?id Don't Give Your Hurricane Donations to the Red Cross. Establishment charities have a history of withholding disaster funds. By Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones September 1 2005 As the aftermath of hurricane Katrina continues to wreak mayhem and havoc amid reports of mass looting, shooting at rescue helicopters, rapes and murders, establishment media organs are promoting the Red Cross as a worthy organization to give donations to. The biggest website in the world, Yahoo.com, displays a Red Cross donation link prominently on its front page. Every time there is a major catastrophe the Red Cross and similar organizations like United Way are given all the media attention while other charities are left in the shadows. This is not to say that the vast majority of Red Cross workers are not decent people who simply want to help those in need. But what the media fails consistently to remember in their promotion of the organization is that the Red Cross have been caught time and time again withholding money in the wake of horrible disasters that require immediate release of funds. The Red Cross, under the Liberty Fund, collected $564 million in donations after 9/11. Months after the event, the Red Cross had distributed only $154 million. The Red Cross' explanation for keeping the majority of the money was that it would be used to help 'fight the war on terror'. To the victims, this meant that the money was going towards bombing broken backed third world countries like Afghanistan and setting up surveillance cameras and expanding the police state in US cities, and not towards helping them rebuild their lives. Then Red Cross President Dr. Bernadine Healy arrogantly responded when questioned about the withholding of funds by stating, "The Liberty Fund is a war fund. It has evolved into a war fund." Despite the family members of victims of 9/11 complaining bitterly to a House Energy and Commerce Committee's oversight panel, the issue seemed to be brushed under the carpet and the mud didn't stick. The Red Cross' scandalous activities reach back far before 9/11. After the devastating San Francisco earthquake in 1989, the Red Cross passed on only $10 million of the $50 million that had been raised, and banked the rest. Similar donations after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and the Red River flooding in 1997 were also greedily withheld. Smaller charities that were involved with the 2004 Tsunami relief project went public to say that large charities like Red Cross and United Way were engaged in secret backroom negotiations with each other that meant a large portion of the donation money was purposefully restricted from reaching the most needy areas affected by the disaster. The history is clear, the Red Cross and other large so-called charities are in actual fact front group collection agencies for the military industrial complex. Many informed historians have even alleged that the Red Cross was used as a Skull and Bones cover to overthrow The Russian Czar and pave the way for the rise of the Bolsheviks. Do not give any money to the Red Cross unless you support the expansion of empire abroad and police state at home. Find a smaller trustworthy organization in the local area of New Orleans and make your donation to them. Don't Give your Hurricane Katrina Relief Donations to the Red Cross. http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/katrina_no_red_cross.htm COMMENT: The Red Cross has a long history of thieving and stealing cash donations intended for disaster relief. Even as far back as the Korean War the Red Cross was plundering soldiers' mail and care packages. Some veterans have informed us that they would buy cigarettes from the Red Cross and find a twenty dollar bill or a note from a soldier's mother tucked into the pack. More recent examples are plentiful. Families of September 11th victims were prevented from receiving half of the donations sent by well meaning citizens to the Red Cross for their aid. The recent Tsunami also was a great money-making opportunity for the Red Cross, which was very clear in its calls for donations of only cash, which would be much easier for the organization to funnel and launder and steal. Only recently have tsunami survivors begun to see a dime of the money collected on their behalf by the Red Cross. The Red Cross is very adept at stealing money and looting mail. They have been caught innumerable times, but always allowed to get away with their schemes because the organization is so tightly linked to the establishment. Libby Dole, wife of Senator and powerbroker Bob Dole, was for a long time the head of the outfit. It is an organization by and for the elite insiders designed to gather intelligence and steal from those who need aid. The International Organization of the Red Cross is a secret intelligence agency that has acted as an arm of the British Intelligence Services since its inception. If you want to help survivors of Katrina, do a little research and find organizations that you can trust or better yet, use available resources and work together with neighbors. Red Cross Pocketed Half Of 9/11 Donations CNN | January 3 2005 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Charities swung into action after the September 11 terrorist attacks, raising more than $1 billion. But questions are being raised about where and how and how much of that money is being distributed. Bearing the brunt Tuesday during a hearing of the House Energy and Commerce Committee's oversight panel was outgoing Red Cross President Dr. Bernadine Healy. The Red Cross has raised more than $564 million for the Liberty Fund, which was set up in response to the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. While the agency states on its Web site that it is spending more than any other relief agency responding to the terrorist attacks, it has distributed only $154 million. Healy was hammered by one New York official for the Red Cross' decision to put aside nearly half of the money raised for future needs that may include terrorist attacks. "I see the Red Cross, which has raised hundreds of millions of dollars that was intended by the donating public to be used for the victims of September 11 -- I see those funds being sequestered into long-term plans for an organization," testified New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer. Healy later told CNN the Red Cross was a service organization and that previous donations had prepared the agency to deal with September 11. "We had planned for a weapon of mass destruction attack," she said. "We knew our obligations under the congressional charter. We knew it involved victim assistance and sheltering. We knew that it involved with dealing with rescue workers. We knew that it involved blood." She also noted that some of the new funding went toward helping communities learn how to deal with other threats such as anthrax. The hearing was contentious, with panel members trying to get at the issue of donor intent and whether the Red Cross misled donors. "What's at issue here is that a special fund was established for these families. It was specially funded for this event, September 11," said Rep. Billy Tauzin, R-Louisiana. "And it is being closed now because we are told enough money's been raised in it, but we're also being told, by the way, we're going to give two-thirds of it away to other Red Cross needs." The subcommittee asked Healy and her agency to provide the exact language of all of its television and newspaper appeals for donations. Healy said what the agency has learned is it needs to explain to the public the mission of the Red Cross. "Don't confuse us with the 9/11 Fund in New York. Don't confuse us with Habitat for Humanity. Don't confuse us with the scholarship in New York for the victims. We have to get that out," she said. Controversy over the Liberty Fund was one reason Healy decided to resign at year's end. But she defended the agency's decision of how to use the money. "The Liberty Fund is a war fund. It has evolved into a war fund," she said. "We must have blood readiness. We must have the ability to help our troops if we go into a ground war. We must have the ability to help the victims of tomorrow." A widow who lost her husband in the World Trade Center attack also complained to the panel that what money was available from various charities was tied up in red tape and confusion. "Why then haven't these charities been able to get together and agree on one uniform application? Why haven't they been able to get together and develop a quicker way for families to receive these funds?" asked Elizabeth McLaughlin of Pelham, New York. "We all have the missing person’s reports, death certificates, and any other proof needed to avoid fraud. But the charities are not sharing these documents and information with each other," she testified in tears. She told the panel that she had to construct an 18-page spreadsheet to try to keep track of all the requirements of various aid groups. McLaughlin received a $27,000 check from the Red Cross, but fears she may still lose her house without additional aid. The Red Cross said it has helped 25,000 families with food and temporary shelter, counseling and cash assistance. The Illuminati Controlled Red Cross April 14/11 - Galactic Friends http://www.galacticfriends.com/updates/whistle-blower/5580-the-illuminati-controlled-red-cross-april-1411.html the red cross fraud - Google Search http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=the+red+cross+fraud&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=f5b1d5aa1ea1fb55

Hello Adam, I believe your heart is in the right place, but I will not ever give money to the Red Cross, any more than I would give money to the Rothchilds! (Red Shields) Have you ever researched the Red Cross? From what I have learned they are a big front for the Military Industrial Complex. I hate war and refuse to support any organization that uses donated money to promote war. Of course I am forced by phony laws to support the IRS, which collects money for the #1 promoter of war. But when I have a choice, I will always look for honorable people who are on location to do the job in an honorable and honest fashion. I wrote to a long-time associate of mine who is now living in Japan, and I asked him how he is doing, what has he observed, and does he know of any organizations in Japan who will make good use of contributions to help the desperate citizens of Japan. This is his reply: I appreciate all the emails I am getting providing information and reports about the Japanese reactor situation. One of the most disturbing is that I have learned that the Fukushima reactor 3, which just exploded yesterday, was using MOX Fuel, not uranium. This is apparently many many times more lethal than uranium. These reactors were not designed for this fuel. It appears to be a bit of a cover up situation and needs to be followed closely. I am at the local city hall all day and it is frantic here and preparations are being made to in case there is fallout here, 600 kilometres away. The present danger zone is now expanded to 30 kilometres. If you want to contribute to knowledge on this disaster that may affect all of Japan and other parts of the world please dig up what you can and post it on my new blog. http://waynenash.com/2011/03/13/safe-in-japan-so-far/ I was in the middle of building that blog and it is not finished but will work well for this issue and you can find other posts there of interests too. Please post all your links and articles and notes here please. http://waynenash.com/2011/03/13/safe-in-japan-so-far/ Feel free to subscribe to the RSS, YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook links there too. The cost of the earthquake and tsunami -- in human suffering and lost souls -- continues to mount. Here is an article recommending some trusted sources where you can donate funds that will go directly to help those in need: http://www.naturalnews.com/031686_nuclear_meltdown_Japan.html The Tzu-Chi Foundation is one foundation you can trust and puts nearly 100% of their funds to work on the ground using volunteers who organize rescue efforts right there on the streets where it's needed most. http://www.us.tzuchi.org/usa/home.nsf/other/donateCharity Again follow this and contribute info here: http://waynenash.com/2011/03/13/safe-in-japan-so-far/ Cheers,

I read somewhere today, perhaps in the news concerning the final details of the Iraqi seating of its new government, that the time limit to RV would be only 90 days. Did anyone else read or hear of that? If so, we cannot fool around too long waiting for a lower spread, Can We?