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Thanks Sage, unfortunately, it appears people will always believe media and politics first, rather than what the research has shown. All the media has pushed is politics and fear, and that always seems to get the desired reaction, rarely any critical thinking. Too many people making claims and outright lying, rather than making the effort to battle this covid-19 at the very least with those items that have proven effective. I'm also tired of all the talking heads, I tend to try and find reliable sources of information that can help in finding solutions rather than paying much attention to the drama and politics behind so much of today's world. Thank you for chiming in!

Thanks for the comments folks... 😃 This Zelenko is not the only doctor who saw dramatic improvements since late March using HCQ. It is an extremely inexpensive treatment with proven effectiveness that has been known for 15 years. After the president talked about this that some doctors were having great success with this combination, the media and Dr. Fauci played it down, even going so far as claiming it was never tested for such use. This is not true. It was demonized and reported "dangerous". At this point, I have to assume it simply was not a profitable treatment to implement right at the start...the research of it against SARS and CoV 15 years ago was quite clear, and at the very least should have been utilized on a broad based test, it is very safe, and many doctors across the country have claimed they saw improvements in symptoms within hours on those diagnosed with covid-19. How can that be swept under the rug as if it means nothing? How can anyone try and justify NOT implementing it early on, unless of course it interfered with the profit hawks during a crisis of this magnitude? The risks are extremely low, yet it was never even tried on a mass scale. They waited in order to allow Gilead Sciences to develop "remdesivir", as if this was going to be a "cure", but Fauci admitted that is not the case, but they are making sure it gets distributed after the FDA gave the "ok", yet the very thing that has worked for many doctors was rejected almost immediately in early April. Funny thing is, Dr. Fauci has a history with Gilead Sciences, as well as Dr. Birx, Bill Gates, etc. So what we have is a drug that was given quick passage by the FDA, not properly tested, yet shows "some promise". This gets picked for a mass trial, and the very thing that has proven to be effective on most covid-19 patients was rejected. As with most things, it is always about the money, and when it comes to health care, no explanation is necessary. We really should not try and make excuses for this blatant over sight, especially when a growing number of doctors in the field have seen dramatic improvements with their own patients. Should it not be patient first, rather than profit first?

This appears to be accurate...if so, Dr. Fauci should be held accountable as well as those involved for rejecting this inexpensive treatment that according to research , could have helped thousands. This was known since 2005... Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose “expert” advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses. Link: https://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2020/04/27/fauci-knew-about-hcq-in-2005-nobody-needed-to-die Story: How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director. In connection with the SARS outbreak - caused by a coronavirus dubbed SARS- CoV - the NIH researched chloroquine and concluded that it was effective at stopping the SARS coronavirus in its tracks. The COVID-19 bug is likewise a coronavirus, labeled SARS-CoV-2. While not exactly the same virus as SARS-CoV-1, it is genetically related to it, and shares 79% of its genome, as the name SARS-CoV-2 implies. They both use the same host cell receptor, which is what viruses use to gain entry to the cell and infect the victim. The Virology Journal - the official publication of Dr. Fauci’s National Institutes of Health - published what is now a blockbuster article on August 22, 2005, under the heading - get ready for this - “Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.” (Emphasis mine throughout.) Write the researchers, “We report...that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.” This means, of course, that Dr. Fauci (pictured at right) has known for 15 years that chloroquine and it’s even milder derivative hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) will not only treat a current case of coronavirus (“therapeutic”) but prevent future cases (“prophylactic”). So HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine. In other words, it’s a wonder drug for coronavirus. Said Dr. Fauci’s NIH in 2005, “concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection.” Fauci’s researchers add, “chloroquine can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV.” Dr. Didier Raoult, the Anthony Fauci of France, had such spectacular success using HCQ to treat victims of SARS-CoV-2 that he said way back on February 25 that “it’s game over” for coronavirus. He and a team of researchers reported that the use of HCQ administered with both azithromycin and zinc cured 79 of 80 patients with only “rare and minor” adverse events. “In conclusion,” these researchers write, “we confirm the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine associated with azithromycin in the treatment of COVID-19 and its potential effectiveness in the early impairment of contagiousness.” The highly-publicized VA study that purported to show HCQ was ineffective showed nothing of the sort. HCQ wasn’t administered until the patients were virtually on their deathbeds when research indicates it should be prescribed as soon as symptoms are apparent. Plus, HCQ was administered without azithromycin and zinc, which form the cocktail that makes it supremely effective. At-risk individuals need to receive the HCQ cocktail at the first sign of symptoms. But Governor Andrew Cuomo banned the use of HCQ in the entire state of New York on March 6, the Democrat governors of Nevada and Michigan soon followed suit, and by March 28 the whole country was under incarceration-in-place fatwas. Nothing happened with regard to the use of HCQ in the U.S. until March 20, when President Trump put his foot down and insisted that the FDA consider authorizing HCQ for off-label use to treat SARS-CoV-2. On March 23, Dr. Vladimir Zelenko reported that he had treated around 500 coronavirus patients with HCQ and had seen an astonishing 100% success rate. That’s not the “anecdotal” evidence Dr. Fauci sneers at, but actual results with real patients in clinical settings. “Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen. Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.” Said Dr. Zelenko: "If you scale this nationally, the economy will rebound much quicker. The country will open again. And let me tell you a very important point. This treatment costs about $20. That’s very important because you can scale that nationally. If every treatment costs $20,000, that’s not so good. All I’m doing is repurposing old, available drugs which we know their safety profiles, and using them in a unique combination in an outpatient setting." The questions are disturbing to a spectacular degree. If Dr. Fauci has known since 2005 of the effectiveness of HCQ, why hasn’t it been administered immediately after people show symptoms, as Dr. Zelenko has done? Maybe then nobody would have died and nobody would have been incarcerated in place except the sick, which is who a quarantine is for in the first place. To paraphrase Jesus, it’s not the symptom-free who need HCQ but the sick. And they need it at the first sign of symptoms. While the regressive health care establishment wants the HCQ cocktail to only be administered late in the course of the infection, from a medical standpoint, this is stupid. Said one doctor, “As a physician, this baffles me. I can’t think of a single infectious condition — bacterial, fungal, or viral — where the best medical treatment is to delay the use of an anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, or anti-viral until the infection is far advanced.” So why has Dr. Fauci minimized and dismissed HCQ at every turn instead of pushing this thing from jump street? He didn’t even launch clinical trials of HCQ until April 9, by which time 33,000 people had died. This may be why: “Chloroquine, a relatively safe, effective and cheap drug used for treating many human diseases...is effective in inhibiting the infection and spread of SARS CoV.” That’s the problem. It is safe, inexpensive, and it works - in other words, there’s nothing sexy or avant-garde about HCQ. It’s been around since 1934. Given human nature, it’s possible, even likely, that those who are chasing the unicorn of a coronavirus vaccine are doing so for reasons other than human health. I can’t see into anybody’s heart, and can’t presume to know their motives, but on the other hand, human nature recognizes that there’s no glory in pushing HCQ, and nobody is going to get anything named for him in the history books. The polio vaccine was developed by Jonas Salk in 1954, and it is still known as the “Salk vaccine.” There will be no “Fauci vaccine” if HCQ is the answer to the problem. So while Dr. Fauci is tut-tutting and pooh-poohing HCQ, Dr. Raoult and Dr. Zelensky are out there saving lives at $20 a pop. Maybe we should spend more time listening to them than the wizards-of-smart bureaucrats the Talking Snake Media fawns over. Dr. Fauci is regarded by the Talking Snake Media as the Oracle at Delphi. The entire nation hangs on his every word. But if nobody is dying and nobody is locked down, his 15 minutes of fame fades to zero. Very few people are not going to be influenced by that prospect, especially when it’s easy to keep the attention of the public by continuing to feed the panic. It should not be overlooked that there is no money in HCQ for Big Pharma since HCQ is a generic that can be manufactured so cheaply there is little profit margin in it. On the other hand, the payday for a vaccine will literally be off-the-charts. Who knows what kind of behind-the-scenes pressure is being put on Fauci and others in the health care establishment? There is a monstrous reputational risk for those who will be found to have dismissively waved off a treatment that could have been used from the very beginning, even back on February 15 when Dr. Fauci said that the risk from Coronavirus was “minuscule.” How many lives could have been saved if the heads of our multi-billion dollar health care bureaucracy had been advocating for HCQ treatment from day one? We’ll never know. Instead, their advice has been dangerous and deadly in every sense of that word. Someday - maybe even today - we will be able to identify the individuals who had the knowledge and expertise to make a global difference, but turned up their noses at the solution when it could have made all the difference in the world. Bryan Fischer hosts "Focal Point with Bryan Fischer" every weekday on AFR Talk (American Family Radio) from 1:00 - 2:00 p.m. (Central). He is author of The Boy to Man Book: Preparing Your Son for Manhood. This column first appeared on The Stand, the official blog site for American Family Association. This column is printed with permission. Opinions expressed in 'Perspectives' columns published by OneNewsNow.com are the sole responsibility of the article's author(s), or of the person(s) or organization(s) quoted therein, and do not necessarily represent those of the staff or management of, or advertisers who support the American Family News Network, OneNewsNow.com, our parent organization or its other affiliates.

Looked like a beautiful day to film this Greg and appears you were having fun! Thanks for sharing this.

Hi adhoc10! Always good to read your thoughts my friend. Yes, fear IS a mind killer, it turns off critical thought, it is the main reason things like religion and politics have mastered the art of fear and doom, it is the easiest tools to use to bring people into surrender and submission and slowly suck the life out of them, including their ability to think for themselves. We see it a lot and too many have become reactionary, little thought outside of that and that can be dangerous. I just try to encourage and remind myself and others to learn to THINK. It is OK to ask questions, I encourage people to question everything, especially the things we know deep inside no longer make sense...it is the only way we truly learn. We have much to learn, and we must be careful what sources we use, because there is a lot of hype and lies being spread as "truth". Speculation is not truth, speculation requires belief, truth doesn't, it stands upon its own evidence. The other option is not acceptable...allowing others to think for us. That almost always leads to deception and manipulation. Hope you have been well! All the best to you and stay safe and smart! 😄

We cannot afford to forget the hype and lies spread about the swine flu back in 1976...which ended up with over 46 million people convinced to get a vaccine, in which over 4,000 people filed law suits due to medical harm, some being hit with neurological problems and other sickness due to the vaccine. If we forget our history and the manner in which swine flu was presented to the public back in 1976, we will fail to ask the hard questions as to why we have been inundated with the fear and doom narrative, and allow a potentially similar outcome with covid-19. Never forget...no matter what our opinions are about these issues, there is one main thread that runs deep within it all...it is ALWAYS about the money, and for the most part, too many people place blind trust in their govt and their doctors without ever THINKING before they are dragged through a system that may harm them in the end.

My thoughts... Any source that emits certain frequencies has potential to disrupt our bodies and normal cellular operation. That is a fact. How harmful those sources are depend upon what frequency they operate at. 5G is getting to a frequency that has increased the potential to harm normal cellular activities within our bodies. The problem with being able to discern the affects are that many tests that have been conducted that show a high rate of harmful disruption, are being done within certain confines that are different than in the public realm. I assisted with an english version article transcribed from a lecture on 5G research about a year ago done by a german doctor by the name of Anke Kern. I thought it was extremely well done research, and fact finding. According to her, there are I know over 180 doctors and scientists who have communicated via a memorandum with various mobile companies who are rolling out 5G. They asked them to please delay their rollout until all the evidence was in on how 5G operational frequencies interact with humans and other living creatures. So far some countries have decided to delay proceeding, but most have not. I think the big question with all the tests in this regard is concentration of frequencies in the testing environment compared with the concentration in the public realm emitted by the various towers or masts. Just because something shows massive disruption in confined testing environments, does not mean that will be replicated in the open air, but we should not disregard the findings that long term it is likely not at all healthy. I think we should be open minded enough to take time to learn what we can, then see where that knowledge leads us. if it is determined with solid evidence to be harmful, then we should pay attention.

Thought you guys may appreciate the following... Extremely interesting discussion on vaccines, well researched. Logical, rational discussion that underscores our discussion here. I am very grateful for people who are unafraid to address and challenge the vaccine narratives, many of which have been ridiculed because of their findings. No conspiracy theories, just responsible research, I think. https://www.pscp.tv/w/1nAKEdlmwWXxL?t=3

It is definitely a good question, and one that has a complicated or cascading type of answer. Here are my thoughts...and a disclaimer that I am in no way disrespecting any responsible health care workers...they are doing their jobs and operate under certain restraints even if they disagree with them...with that said... As @Pitcher stated, an employer such as a hospital or healthcare facility requires their nursing staff to get flu shots. Many nurses have commented about this requirement and were not comfortable with it at all...some nurses went further and stated WHY they disagreed with this requirement, based upon their various experiences. In these cases, the employee must decide whether or not they want to keep their job. Some decide not, but most accept the requirements. As far as making a personal choice...declaring a vaccine to be "mandatory" for the general public is first and foremost, a terrible violation of human rights, but to me that takes second place to our right to decide based upon evidence of harm, evidence of toxic substances within whatever vaccine it is, and we must maintain the right to refuse. I am not saying "all" vaccines are bad, I am saying they can be a pathway to long term health and well being problems that are often denied. If we lose the right to refuse any medically administered drug or vaccine, how long until we have outright medical tyranny? We are already very close to that if you read my post about "iatrogenic deaths" in another thread. Deaths caused by doctor or hospital mistakes, prescription drugs, injury by various procedures, harmed by unnecessary medical procedures, etc. The death rates are simply not acceptable for any industry, yet we rarely hear a word about these stats. The numbers listed are terrifying, because it shows most folks already believe anything they are told when it comes to medical profession...and rarely question any of it. What we need to make sure is preserved is our right to refuse, because if we do not, the potential for literal medical tyranny becomes a certainty. The propaganda campaigns that pharma industry utilize are right in the mix of the big media companies. For instance, Roger Ailes of Fox news was interviewed some years ago about certain medical concerns. he stated that at the time they had 22 advertising contracts...17 of which were big pharma companies...think of the audience these companies have? Media becomes literal pharma propaganda outlets, in which if one pays attention, the list of side effects are usually larger than the list of benefits of whatever drug is being promoted. A big reason why we are seeing the stats of more people being harmed or killed by legally prescribed drugs. This is a huge concern, and ties right into your question about refusing mandatory vaccines. We must maintain the right to refuse something that has ample evidence that vaccines have caused much harm both short term and long term especially to children. Bottom line...if we lost our right to choose and refuse as the public, the threat of medical tyranny is very real. If we willingly give up that right, then we must take responsibility for the results. Thanks... 😃

I am also extremely suspicious of the Fauci character. I generally shy away from anyone who uses fear and a constant state of alarm to push their agenda's. Not saying Fauci is doing this...but I do not trust today's brand of modern medicine and the potions they promote. I have done too much research on how the game is played, and also am very aware at the numbers of people harmed each year by this system. Responsible medicine was lost when for profit motives took over back in the mid 1970's in my opinion. We really must learn to "question everything"...for our own good. In today's world, it simply is no longer an option to allow others to think for us. in fact, it could be dangerous to our health and well being. Just my thoughts... Thanks for the dialogue shedagal. 😃

Agreed KristiD. You are not the only one who realized they were being played. I know some people who literally believe every word he/she has ever stated...without even realizing how they were being drawn in to the mind games. Some even get angry if you even question this "Q" characters statements. When that happens, I usually realize we're being toyed with. I do not like when people play with others emotions or purposely mislead using all the usual tools...fear, dread, doom, paranoia religion or politics. I have personally witnessed the toll it takes on some people, and their mental health, especially those who dive in head first without thought. Just my thoughts...and 2 cents worth. Thanks for chiming in on this topic.

Thanks for your comment. 😃 It is very difficult to try and get some people to think before they accept modern medical advice. When modern medicine went from patient first to profit first, responsible medicine left the building so to speak. There are some very good and caring doctors out there, but they are restrained by a system for profit that will not allow them to offer anything other than "AMA Approved" treatments and drugs. Take a look at this document that researches what is called "iatrogenic deaths". Look at the numbers of people who are harmed or killed by the medical machine on an annual basis. These are facts, that for the most part are rarely talked about, and if they were openly discussed, people would be calling it what it is...medical tyranny. Here is an example of the stats in the fully researched report called "Death by Medicine". The report was researched and written by 5 doctors who realize something is very wrong. The report is 25 pages...the information provided is stunning, and I have researched some of these stats for years...it is heart breaking what modern medicine is doing to us all with most never daring to question it. We REALLY need to learn to ASK the questions and THINK. Here is a quote from the beginning of the report: Here is the report link: http://www.webdc.com/pdfs/deathbymedicine.pdf Have a great weekend!

I find it quite convenient that Gates resigned from Microsoft the moment covid-19 hit the scene. You can bet him and this "Dr. Fauci" fellow and the CDC cannot wait to push mandatory vaccination. Imagine the money those involved are looking at if they can push this on people? We really need to think hard about situations like this...the fear and hysteria being pushed by some of these people usually mean they have something to sell. Thanks for this Scott.

Thank you for this story Sage. It wouldn't surprise me if this were accurate, all pain relievers have their downsides. It does make me wonder though, at a time like this, if the makers of Tylenol (acetaminophen) have launched something like this as a marketing ploy. I do not put greed beyond any drug makers, and during a time like this where fear rules, and I read claims such as these, my first thought is marketing ploy. Another example would be the infighting that goes on between beef producers and poultry producers. Poultry claims red meat is so bad for you...then endorse the benefits of eating poultry such as chicken, etc., only to find out it was all a marketing ploy. Or, beef producers claim some evidence that "white meat such as chicken" may cause cancer...then promote beef as a better health solution. Sometimes the marketing is obvious, other times it takes some digging to find out by whom the info originated from. Have a great weekend, stay safe.

Please show me in my post where I specifically mentioned YOU by name. Show me. Reread my response. Please do not drag the thread into bickering and accusations. I made an assumption...as stated, no mention of names because that's his business. He can answer for himself. Take your own advice and deal with your own issues before preaching to me about love. You can twist this any way you like, accuse me of whatever you like, discredit me all you desire, but you just showed HOW you operate, don't drag me into something I had no part in. Now SHOW me where I mentioned YOU by name...

He made a comment a few weeks back in a thread, something about being tired of certain individuals here. The usual attack and accuse squad I assume...I do hope he is doing well. I also hope he realizes those that hammered him in a sometimes rude and personal fashion, pushed him away, which was their goal. Forum rules seem to only apply to some, not so much others. Just my thoughts...

Thank you adhoc10 Always good to have in the natural medicine chest...here are a few more...all items have anti-viral benefits...it is always good practice to take at least one day a week OFF from supplementing, to allow the body to rest and metabolize. Vitamin D3 - 5,000 i.u. daily (especially if you cannot get outside for some sun) Vitamin C - 1,000 - 3,000 mg daily Olive Leaf Extract - 500 - 1,000 mg daily L-lysine (amino acid and anti-viral) 2,000 - 3,000 mg daily Stay safe and please do not allow the media or other fear and doom outlets to rob you of good mental health. All the fear being pushed by many in media, both alternative and MSM tend to keep people in a constant state of alarm, and over time can produce mental trauma, very similar to PTSD. I am more concerned about people's mental health than I am about them contracting covid-19. The reason to guard your mental health is because some slimy people and companies are laying on the fear and doom purposely, in order to either sell you something, OR to manipulate your emotions while they view you as their "captive audience." The constant fear and doom narratives coming from politics, religion and a few others usual places, making all manner of claims know it is much easier to fool you once they draw you in with their fear. All through history, "rulers" knew the secret to get people to submit in fear was to tell everyone "we are under attack". It almost always gets the desired results. Some people make a "living" from scaring as many as they can. Play it smart, guard your heart and mind from those characters, they are everywhere now.

I find this interesting...timing and all...October 18, 2019. Read carefully...food for thought. http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/ Event 201 The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences. Statement about nCoV and our pandemic exercise In recent years, the world has seen a growing number of epidemic events, amounting to approximately 200 events annually. These events are increasing, and they are disruptive to health, economies, and society. Managing these events already strains global capacity, even absent a pandemic threat. Experts agree that it is only a matter of time before one of these epidemics becomes global—a pandemic with potentially catastrophic consequences. A severe pandemic, which becomes “Event 201,” would require reliable cooperation among several industries, national governments, and key international institutions.

Something that has yet to be addressed that is still baffling...according to the CDC, past flu seasons, such as 2017-2018, we saw over 900,000 hospitalized, with over 79,000 deaths...2018-2019...we saw over 640,000 hospitalized and over 61,000 deaths. Were we being fed so much fear and doom via media and politics during this time??? No, most never even heard about it. Some say, "oh, this is different". How so? It is a virus, it can kill and does...but the numbers at present compared to previous flu seasons does not seem to compute a logical response to what we are seeing globally. Dengue fever is right now, killing more people than this "covid-19". Have we heard about that??? No. Tuberculosis is killing more people right now than "covid-19"...hear anything about this? No. Use common sense, and please do not buy into the fear fest...that is ALL we see...pure speculation about the numbers, meanwhile other diseases continue to kill daily, in far greater numbers...we do not know what is going on behind the curtain...all than can be done is speculate...but there is no need to push the fear buttons. let media, politics and religion do that, because that is the way the mind game is played...keep people in a state of constant alarm. Reject that and you will fair much better physically and mentally.

"Just got a phone call that my name is trending. And being trolled for some awful FAKE thing. It's NOT TRUE," Oprah wrote to her Twitter followers on Tuesday night. "Haven't been raided, or arrested. Just sanitizing and self distancing with the rest of the world. Stay safe everybody." According to reports, a conspiracy theory had surfaced online stating that Oprah had allegedly been arrested in connection with a sex trafficking ring. The allegations also stated that Oprah's house had been raided, which she referenced in her tweet. In response to the social media conspiracy, many fans and fellow stars are coming to Oprah's defense. In one tweet, filmmaker Ava DuVernay called out "trolls" and "bots" for the "disgusting rumor." "Trolls + bots began this disgusting rumor. Mean-spirited minds kept it going," Ava wrote. "#Oprah has worked for decades on behalf of others. Given hundreds of millions to individuals + causes in need. Shared her own abuse as a child to help folks heal." She added, "Shame on all who participated in this." It is because much of it IS bunk Sage. These claims have been swirling around since 2017...stemming from the "Q" cult that made the claim Hill Clinton was about to be arrested...oh there was an arrest, but at the time it turned out to be Paul Manafort. Claims without evidence is the new thing in alt. media and MSM. No evidence, then it's time to move on. Belief in the claims make it no less false. Most of it is "clickbait", and this kind of rumor mill has been ongoing for the last 12 years. We all want to see corruption cleaned up...but so far the claims have been that, just claims. Would it be great to see those that hate this country get taken down? Sure...but I do not ever see that happening in our life times...but never say never...I think any person who loves their country wants to see both parties get cleaned up and especially the lobbyist corruption too.

That is a good story Pitcher! Oh I bet it would have been hilarious watching her try and use up that mustard! Too funny, and also unfortunate that we live in a world today that every event must have as much squeezed out of it as possible in order to instill fear. In my opinion, those who use fear and dread to manipulate others emotions ALWAYS have something to sell them...these are the lowest form of life, because they feast upon others fear. We see it so often it has become "normal" yet there is nothing normal about some folks hunger for all things drama.

The manner in how this is being pushed is a bit questionable. CDC has stated back in 2018, over 18,000 people died from the flu, and their "flu shots" helped only about 47% of those that got them. Does anyone remember a state of panic back then??? Does anyone think over 18,000 deaths due to the flu back then was pushed with so much fear and dread as this is? No it wasn't. Over 18,000 dead in 2018 from the flu...keep this in perspective before allowing the media and politics to present yet another daily dose of fear and doom to the people. Why wasn't there "panic" being sold back in 2018??? 18,000 people are a lot of casualties from the "flu", and I do not remember hearing a word about it. Way too much drama in today's bizarre world. Everything today gets politicized, and it sure gets old. Then you have the crazies that grab any opportunity to predict dire outcomes, empty store shelves, shortage of medicine, they pile up all the things that could go wrong, and make it sound as if it is fact. Let's just try and maintain some balance instead of buying in to all the speculation being served up by media and others.

It has always been evident to me political hypocrisy can sometimes be stunning, from both parties. The reason are party loyalists, who will deny anything as long as it makes their party look better. That has been a part of politics forever, but in the mean time, what it has cost us as a country is unacceptable in my opinion. Problem is we the people are never consulted about these issues, we vote, then stand back and watch the partisan circus, and that is not what most folks vote for. What we see forming I think is a new level of Statism, where the people actually want govt. to manage the social and economic aspects of their lives, and the last 20 years we have seen too many too willing to give up privacy and liberty in the name of Statism.

Thanks Greg for sharing your experience. great advice to watch those pigeons!

Look out shabs, you know it is getting desperate when you are asked if you own dinar Some just want to shut you up in any way they can, along with the usual questions about dinar. You are accused almost daily of "hatred" and yet those that treat you with contempt apparently are too blind to their own hatred. Someone always needs a target to pursue, to accuse, to do whatever it takes to discredit someone who does not agree with the majority even if it means personal attacks. When that happens, you are marked...wear the badge proudly and see it for what it is. Those are the type of friends that simply want you to agree with them, and hear their opinion coming out of your mouth. If not, well, you know the rest. Have a good weekend my friend. Keep thinking for yourself, be your own person, always. you never have to bow to the political or religious hit squad. Your opinions are just as valid as theirs. Never allow politics or religion to be used to intimidate you, that just shows how low some will go.