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Todd L. Grande PhD. Dr. Grande is a professional counselor, counselor educator, and content creator who specializes in personality disorders, addiction, recovery from trauma, psychopathology, and assessment. He operates a YouTube channel in which he covers a wide range of topics including mental health disorders, personality theory, true crime, relationships, and narcissism. He is a Licensed Professional Counselor of Mental Health (LPCMH) and Licensed Chemical Dependency Professional (LCDP) in the State of Delaware and is a National Certified Counselor (NCC). He holds a Master’s of Science in Community Counseling from Wilmington University and a Ph.D. in Counselor Education and Supervision from Regent University. For many years, he was an associate professor in Wilmington University’s CACREP-accredited Clinical Mental Health Counseling program and provided counseling and consulting services in his local community. His YouTube channel, Dr. Todd Grande, has over 1 million+ subscribers with over 100 million views. https://www.unhookedmedia.com/todd-grande Dr. Todd Grande does a reputably reasonable and comprehensive assessment of the "flat" Earth mental disorder/delusion. The video is well worth the watch especially at the 8:03 mark where he discusses the delusional aspects of "flat" Earth "believers" and the following 8:47 mark where he discusses the "flat" Earth "believers" Explanations that have no basis in reality compared to the real evidence of a Spherical (geoidal) Earth.

Let's confiscate their facilities and convert them to pork slaughtering and processing plants. Then make 'em eat it.

Thank You for the reference, @ronscarpa! Here is an interview that of many topics discusses transhumanism starting at 19:40 Transhumanism could be a hybrid of the originating thread topic and the outcome of the mRNA injections. The coded instructions in the mRNA would potentially alter the human DNA to a specific directed sequence. Typically, the body will reject and attack foreign sequences like mutations or cancer cells. The mRNA injections may also include inhibitors or blockers to prevent the foreign DNA sequence from being rejected. Transhumanism could also lead to the Zombie Apocalypse where humans with the altered DNA via the mRNA want to die and can not. I suspect that will not have the form as currently popularized. My opinion is the aliens are demonic beings that may have technologies not known or acheivable by humans. Further, I suspect what the Apostle John saw in The Revelation is a Mosaic of all events in all time whereas here on Earth there is a timeline where the events occur. For example, the Dragon casting a third of the stars down to Earth is something that has been occuring throughout the Earth timeline. The Serpent was there in the Garden of Eden tempting Eve and appears in various ways throughout the Earth timeline. The video is interesting to watch and thought provoking. Whether one agrees with what is presented or not is still worth the watch. Thank You, again, @ronscarpa!!!

Thank You for the encouragement, Ron! Each of us is in desperate need of the Shed Blood of Our Savior God The Son Jesus Christ because of our sin and separation from God. Once we receive the free gift of eternal life because of HIS Shed Blood, we are Born Again. I am so glad you, too, have this comfort and assurance. As your are aware, deception originates in lies from the father of lies. As Born Again Believers in God The Son Jesus Christ, we take our stand against the wiles of Satan, the father of lies, and his minions so not to allow a foothold to gain influence and promote lies. Lies that harm others and leads to destruction - especially eternal destruction. It is unimaginable the horror and torment to be separated from The Loving God for all eternity by rejecting the All Powerful Shed Blood Of God The Son Jesus Christ freely given to take away each individual's sin and restore relationship with The Loving God. I myself find it hard to believe I could have my sins forgiven and be restored to a permanent and right relationship with The Loving God through the Shed Blood Of God The Son Jesus Christ. In my human sense, I am lost forever and deserve the worst eternal punishment like Satan and his minions. However, God The Son Jesus Christ's actual physical death and resurrection are actual TRUTH and reality. So, I believe in, trust in, rely on, and rest in HIM and HIS TRUTH. Isaiah 52:13-15 New American Standard Bible The Exalted Servant 13 Behold, My Servant will prosper, He will be high and lifted up and [a]greatly exalted. 14 Just as many were appalled at you, My people, So His appearance was marred beyond that of a man, And His form beyond the sons of mankind. 15 So [b]He will sprinkle many nations, Kings will shut their mouths on account of Him; For what they had not been told, they will see, And what they had not heard, they will understand. Read full chapter Footnotes Isaiah 52:13 Or very high Isaiah 52:15 LXX many nations will wonder at Him Isaiah 53 New American Standard Bible The Suffering Servant 53 Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? 2 For He grew up before Him like a tender [a]shoot, And like a root out of dry ground; He has no stately form or majesty That we would look at Him, Nor an appearance that we would take pleasure in Him. 3 He was despised and abandoned by men, A man of [b]great pain and familiar with sickness; And like one from whom people hide their faces, He was despised, and we had no regard for Him. 4 However, it was our sicknesses that He Himself bore, And our pains that He carried; Yet we ourselves assumed that He had been afflicted, Struck down by God, and humiliated. 5 But He was [c]pierced for our offenses, He was crushed for our wrongdoings; The punishment for our [d]well-being was laid upon Him, And by His wounds we are healed. 6 All of us, like sheep, have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his own way; But the Lord has caused the wrongdoing of us all To [e]fall on Him. 7 He was oppressed and afflicted, Yet He did not open His mouth; Like a lamb that is led to slaughter, And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers, So He did not open His mouth. 8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away; And as for His generation, who considered That He was cut off from the land of the [f]living For the wrongdoing of my people, to whom the blow was due? 9 And His grave was assigned with wicked men, Yet He was with a rich man in His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was there any deceit in His mouth. 10 But the Lord desired To crush Him, [g]causing Him grief; If He renders [h]Himself as a guilt offering, He will see His [i]offspring, He will prolong His days, And the [j]good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand. 11 As a result of the [k]anguish of His soul, He will [l]see it and be satisfied; By His knowledge the Righteous One, My Servant, will justify the many, For He will bear their wrongdoings. 12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great, And He will divide the plunder with the strong, Because He poured out His [m]life unto death, And was counted with wrongdoers; Yet He Himself bore the sin of many, And interceded for the wrongdoers. Footnotes Isaiah 53:2 Lit suckling Isaiah 53:3 Lit pains Isaiah 53:5 Or wounded Isaiah 53:5 Or peace Isaiah 53:6 Lit encounter Him Isaiah 53:8 Or life Isaiah 53:10 Lit He made Him sick Isaiah 53:10 Lit His soul Isaiah 53:10 Lit seed Isaiah 53:10 Or will of Isaiah 53:11 Or trouble Isaiah 53:11 DSS see light; LXX also has light Isaiah 53:12 Lit soul Psalm 49:8-10 New American Standard Bible 8 For the redemption of [a]his soul is priceless, And he should cease imagining forever— 9 That he might live on eternally, That he might not [b]undergo decay. 10 For he sees that even wise people die; The foolish and the stupid alike perish And leave their wealth to others. Footnotes Psalm 49:8 Lit their Psalm 49:9 Or see corruption; lit see the pit Psalm 16:9-11 New American Standard Bible 9 Therefore my heart is glad and my glory rejoices; My flesh also will dwell securely. 10 For You will not abandon my soul to [a]Sheol; You will not [b]allow Your [c]Holy One to [d]undergo decay. 11 You will make known to me the way of life; In Your presence is fullness of joy; In Your right hand there are pleasures forever. Read full chapter Footnotes Psalm 16:10 I.e., the netherworld Psalm 16:10 Lit give Psalm 16:10 Or godly one Psalm 16:10 Or see corruption; or the pit Acts 13:32-35 New American Standard Bible 32 And we preach to you the good news of the promise made to the fathers, 33 that God has fulfilled this promise to those of us who are the descendants by raising Jesus, as it is also written in the second Psalm: ‘You are My Son; today I have fathered You.’ 34 As for the fact that He raised Him from the dead, never again to return to decay, He has spoken in this way: ‘I will give you the holy and faithful mercies of David.’ 35 Therefore, He also says in another Psalm: ‘You will not [a]allow Your [b]Holy One to [c]undergo decay.’ Read full chapter Footnotes Acts 13:35 Lit give Acts 13:35 Or Devout; or Pious Acts 13:35 Lit see corruption Hebrews 7:15-17 New American Standard Bible 15 And this is clearer still, if another priest arises according to the likeness of Melchizedek, 16 who has become a priest not on the basis of a law of [a]physical requirement, but according to the power of an indestructible life. 17 For it is attested of Him, “You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek.” Read full chapter Footnotes Hebrews 7:16 Lit fleshly commandment; i.e., to be a descendant of Levi Hebrews 10:19-22 New American Standard Bible A New and Living Way 19 Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, through His flesh, 21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22 let’s approach God with a [a]sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. Read full chapter Footnotes Hebrews 10:22 Lit true You, too, Be Blessed, Ron!!!

Quoting the Good Ole 1611 King Jimmy "firmament"!!! Yeah, Apollo 8 made to a Moon orbit and back safely. WITHOUT a doubt. Christmas 1968. What a gift from The LORD!!!

So Why is Flat Earth Dangerous to Christianity? Persisting in the Flat Earth belief goes against everything that science and astronomy has progressed and proven with repeatable evidence and predictions for the past 2,000 years. What we observe with sunrises/sunsets, the moon phases, time zones, eclipses, constellations, circumpolar stars, and how equatorial telescopes work with celestial coordinates just isn’t possible over a flat earth. If Flat Earthers are so adept in the scientific method, then they should be able to present and prove their claims with evidence and experiments that are repeatable, peer reviewed, and able to make predictions from. It’s not my problem they get the math and physics wrong, and get hostile when told so. Just simply saying, “well NASA this, secret society that, NASA lies, Genesis 1, black swan photo, blah blah blah…” again, that’s just pigeon chess. Christian Flat Earthers who thump the Bible and constantly claim “astronomers are fake, astronomy isn’t a real science, astrophotography is fake,” etc., are just making people think that Christians are stupid and/or have mental problems. But when you think about it, wouldn’t the idea of Christians looking stupid something be conjured up by the same fallen angel whose biggest deceit is convincing the world he doesn’t exist? Is it possible that this movement was started by con men trying to see how many Christians would fall for it? The Bible has its share of poetic and figurative passages that Flat Earthers often cite to suit their claims, including Job 38:5, 12-14, Isaiah 11:12, 40:22, and Revelation 7:1, 20:7. These are verses that talk about the “four corners/ends of the earth, circle of the earth, straight lines, etc…” that do not blatantly say the earth is flat, but are clearly misinterpreted and taken out of context! There are NO passages outright saying the earth is flat, nor that you need to believe the earth is flat to receive salvation or “be saved” as Christianity would put it. But falling for false truths, false messiahs, and taking verses out of context is definitely warned about a lot, and is a big trap that everyone, including Christians, need to be cautious of. Christian Flat Earthers who continue to stay on this path and lead more people into this mindset are not doing Christianity any favors. Going as far as teaching children and indoctrinating them into believing outlandish ideas like “Globe Earth equals 666/Satan,” will lead to more people who are intellectually crippled, and unable to contribute to centuries of progress and innovations towards STEM fields. They’re not making Christianity better, they’re just making gullible people more scientifically illiterate! It can lead to a dangerous road where people dive further into conspiracies that thrive because people will just believe anything they’re told without proper research – so it’s no wonder we have our share of Anti-Vaxxers and Climate Change Deniers. Several professed flat earthers have been exposed as pathological liars, scammers and con-men. Bob Knodel (who passed away in 2023), the person who founded the “Globebusters” YouTube Channel and was featured in this infamous clip from “Behind the Curve” used to go along claiming he was a commercial pilot until he got exposed as none of the such….Thanks, Bob! Flat Earthers often like to post pictures and videos of their flat earth claims with the whole “I can see this from this far away” cliché, but can easily lie about height, distance, and orientation. Here is YouTuber MCToon delivering a knockout blow to such a claim, and also exposing the claimant as a con artist and criminal scammer! It may be an hour long video… but trust me, it’s WELL WORTH every minute of your time! It also leads to unstable behaviors that cross beyond honest and respectable boundaries – the kind that would result in fists being thrown by parents defending their children! For example, one well known Flat Earth YouTuber got arrested for harassing elementary school children at a school playground, and was stupid enough to post videos of himself doing the act. Another Flat Earth YouTuber, Anthony Riley, known as Sleeping Warrior, has openly admitted to posing as a child online in attempts to preach his flat earth nonsense to other children – where is Chris Hansen when you need him?! You can watch Youtuber FTFE’s analysis of Riley’s revelation and see the evidence screenshots in FTFE’s video – language NSFW – beginning at the 5:03 mark. It has also led to loss of life! Lets not forget about the crazy professed Flat Earther, “Mad Mike Hughes who died after his homemade rocket crashed in an attempt to “prove a flat earth,” (although Hughes’ actual beliefs have been disputed, it still led to the loss of a life because of people buying into the conspiracy!). A flat earth leader, Rob Skiba, died from covid-19 related pneumonia in 2021 because he refused a vaccine that could have saved his life – and there are more who succumbed to the disease out of ignorance and stubbornness. Perhaps we’ll one day witness a religious cult that commits suicide over the appearance of a great comet… oh wait, that actually happened in 1997. At the end of the day, I know that no matter what I say or what evidence I produce, I won’t convince the people who are deep into this movement. But the people who have not yet fallen into this trap are still reachable, and I would be more than happy to discuss. If you’re a Christian who is on the fence about this, I must urge you to do better research than simply listening to some stranger on YouTube with a smartphone and internet connection. They may sound like they know what they’re talking about, but for every one video claiming indisputable proof of Flat Earth, you’ll find perhaps ten videos debunking that “proof.” If you have honest questions related to astronomy that you’d like me to answer and address, by all means don’t hesitate to contact me or leave a comment! Flat Earthers are becoming way too predictable, simply reciting the same things over and over, and are running out of new things to say. Astronomy people like me have nothing to hide. We are not hiding any secret information and we would be happy to personally demonstrate how our telescopes work, and what we can observe in the sky that proves the Earth is a spinning globe. But you have to stop hiding behind your keyboard and show an open mind to learning something! DON’T be like the clowns who comment on my social posts saying my astrophotos are fake! I can gladly show you the raw files taken directly from my camera SD cards, and if my work looks THAT good to you, then I must be doing something right! https://orionbearastronomy.com/2020/06/26/why-flat-earth-is-dangerous-to-christians/ Here is the video (caution language): It is with a very heavy heart and extreme sadness that some could so distort The Bible so as to construe The Bible as saying the Earth is "flat". People are being driven away from being a Christian due to the lie from Satan that the Earth is "flat" by supposed Christians and the Satanic lie stating The Bible states the Earth is "flat". The explosive damage "flat" Earth is causing to REAL Christianity is incalculable and brings extreme hardship on REAL Christians with, yet, even more persecution and far less credibility by those not born again eventhough The Bible and the Salvation message through the Shed Blood Of God The Son Jesus Christ is absolutely potent. "flat" Earth. Lies. Lies. LIES. From the father of lies. Satan.

One item I have thought would potentially happen is covert and/or overt Cultists would participate on DinarVets. Wherever there is money and potentially gullible people, the Cultists, like "flat" Earth "advocates", will ply their lies to take advantage of the gullible and otherwise unsuspecting. First the Big Lie. Then restate over and over again in every possible way. Of couse, DO NOT answer direct questions to reveal the Cult LIES. Like: Do YOU ("flat" Earth "advocate" (cultist)) believe the Sun rises and sets even as The Bilbe notes???!!! Malachi 1:11 New American Standard Bible 11 For from the rising of the sun even to its setting, My name shall be great among the nations, and in every place frankincense is going to be offered to My name, and a grain offering that is pure; for My name shall be great among the nations,” says the Lord of armies. The motives for Cultists taking advantage of others are varied and ussually are predominantly: Ego. Prestige. Power. Money. Not necessarily in that order or priority. https://www.humanetech.com/insights/how-social-media-features-parallel-cult-techniques This last article is revealing and worth the read. I intent to, and my opinion is everyone should, point out Cultists and avoid them if they are confronted for their Cult beliefs and/or practices and they choose to continue in their Cult beliefs and/or practices.

The ones LYING HERE ARE "flat" Earth "advocates"!!! A Spherical (geoidal) Earth has NOTHING TO DO WITH: Evolution. The Big Bang. Atheism. Alien Seeding. Paganism. The Occult. The New World Order. Satanic World Control. However, "flat" Earth has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH BEING A CULT!!! A Church or a Cult? For a while, I wondered if the Christian version of the flat-earth movement might coalesce into a new denomination or perhaps an association of churches, unified by a common belief that the earth is flat. There now are local churches that include the earth being flat among their core beliefs. And the leaders of those assemblies are zealous about planting similar local churches in other cities. Some flat-earthers feel alienated from their local churches, that in many cases they have attended for years, solely because the leadership of those churches doesn’t agree with them on cosmology, and hence they seek out flat-earth churches that they can attend. However, as strong as the bond of flat-earth belief may be, there are many other differences that divide these local churches. KJV-only, flat-earth people will not tolerate other flat-earthers who stray from the King James Version. The KJV-only, flat-earth pastors are not loath to condemn as false teachers otherflat-earth pastors who from time to time use other translations of the Bible. Eschatology is another issue that divides flat-earth pastors. Additionally, many flat-earth pastors are very domineering and dictatorial. This rubs many people the wrong way, particularly when other, much smaller, differences arise. These factors probably will prevent a large unified flat-earth church movement from coming about. This raises the question of whether the Christian version of the flat-earth movement is a cult. The flat-earth movement has some elements of a cult. Flat-earthers insist that their understanding of the Bible is the only true meaning of Scripture, dismissing all others as the mere teachings of men at best, and at worst, the work of the devil. This is the major defining characteristic of a cult. On the other hand, a cult often denies one or more cardinal doctrines of Christianity, such as the deity of Jesus Christ. While some individual flat-earthers who identify as Christian may stray a bit from orthodoxy, there is no consistent pattern of denying central tenets of Christianity among flat-earthers. Furthermore, a cult usually is led by a central figure. As of yet, there is not a single person who seems to be leading the Christian version of the flat-earth movement. There are various individuals within this subset of the flat-earth movement that have their followings, but it is far from centralized. However, there is a common conduit through whichflat-earth arguments flow and converts are made: the internet, particularly social media and YouTube. Therefore, it is this new medium that amounts to the leader of the movement. Perhaps we need to revisit the definition of a cult to include “faceless” social media leadership. https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/earth/reflections-flat-earth-movement/ More and more people these days seem to be buying into the notion that the earth is not shaped like a three-dimensional sphere. Rather, they have been claiming that the earth is two-dimensional and flat. Even Christians, surprisingly in droves in recent years, have been buying into what’s called the Flat Earth Theory. Should those who believe in the literal interpretation of the Genesis Creation account be joining what is swiftly growing into the cult of the Flat-Earthers? To answer this question, I turned to my friend and fellow evangelist, Eric Hovind. Eric is the president of Creation Today (creationtoday.org), an apologetics ministry that focuses on teaching Genesis using Creation Science. He assures me that the earth is definitely not flat. Internet-Fueled Flat-Earthers Nathan Jones: Eric, I’m trying to figure out why people have become so adamant lately in claiming that the earth is flat. Where did this idea come from? Eric Hovind: Flat-Earthism is a growing movement that, I’m convinced, the Internet has given rise to, perpetuating yet another outdated idea that has long been totally disproven. Because of the Internet, there’s been a resurgence of interest in this false idea which has already been well debunked many times throughout history. I’m convinced the modern Flat Earth Movement was created as a joke which has gotten completely out of hand. A Flat Earth Society was even formed in Canada to make fun of people who believe in the Bible. They claim that to believe in the Bible is to believe that the earth is flat when, of course, that’s not true at all. They were attempting to elicit a mental comparison, and quite successfully, for they have turned many people’s minds away from the Bible. One of the side effects of this scam has been that a lot of people — I’ve heard as much as 6% of the population of the United States or some 20 million people — now believe in the Flat Earth Theory. Some Christians even claim that the Bible supports their notion that the earth is flat. Four Corners Flat-Earthers Nathan Jones: I traveled to the island of Saint Martin to preach at a church there and met a young man who clearly got all of his information from YouTube. He’d become absolutely convinced that the earth is flat. In response, I asked him if he’d ever left his little island, and though he responded that he had indeed never left it, he was still positive the earth must be flat. I explained to him how while traveling around the world from high up in the air, I could see the curvature of the earth. I pointed out that even from the island’s beaches, he could gaze upon the horizon which curves along the ocean so that the ocean had the appearance of roundness. But, he merely countered that the curvature would only inevitably wrap around into a circle and not a true sphere in the shape of a ball. The youth then pointed to Revelation 7:1 and 20:8 which notes the “four corners of the earth.” He told me to look to those verses for proof that the earth is flat. Eric Hovind: He’s got a problem there. Is he arguing for a flat square or a round disk? Most Flat-Earthers do not believe there are actually four corners to the earth. Much conflict exists within the Flat Earth Movement. When you begin to study it, you’ll find there are multiple internal conflicts about who is in charge, who is the smartest, who has the best ideas, and just who is the authority on the subject. As you look at those passages in Revelation that refer to four corners, we have to understand how they are interpreting Scripture. Most Flat-Earthers I would call hyper-literalists, taking whatever a passage says hyper-literally. The problem ends up being that they find themselves facing a whole lot of issues. For example, in explaining those two references in Revelation, they claim these verses are portraying the earth as a square like a table with everything above revolving around the top of the table. If you’re not familiar with the Flat Earth Movement, though most people have probably encountered it by this point, you’ll also have heard them claim there’s possibly a dome extending over the tabletop and that the dome is structurally solid. Some Flat-Earthers would claim the stars are, in truth, angels locked inside of this solid dome that is spinning around a stationary planet. Multiple scientific theories naturally come into play concerning what Flat-Earthers believe. Central to their view is the rejection of the Heliocentric Model which holds that the Sun sits at the center of our solar system and that the planets are orbiting around it. Rather, they believe the earth remains stationary. To support their view, they’ll use passages where the Bible talks about how the earth will not move, is fixed, or rests upon a foundation. I don’t believe stationary is what the Bible is intending to portray when it uses these descriptions of the earth relative to the cosmos. Hyper-literalists state the Bible says the earth has four corners, and so, therefore, it must have four corners. Rather, when interpreting the Bible, what they really should be asking is: “What is the Bible trying to communicate in these passages?” At times differences can occur between what the Bible is saying versus what the Bible is actually trying to convey. For example, Isaiah 55:12 says, “all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.” Do we really believe that trees in the field are clapping actual hands? Well, no! To do so would be to take a hyper-literalist approach. We should instead interpret Scripture based on what the verses mean literally but applying the genre which they employ; not always on what they actually say, especially when we translate the text from the original Hebrew and Greek. Round Disk Flat-Earthers Eric Hovind: Other Flat-Earthers will use Isaiah 40:22 which reads, “It is He who sits above the circle of the earth….” and claim there’s the proof that the earth exists as a two-dimensional flat circle rather than as a three-dimensional sphere. They claim the globe should look like a circular disk and not as a sphere or square like a tabletop. Multiple problems also arise with this claim as they do with the four corner Flat-Earthers. Just one, Isaiah uses different words for sphere and uses them somewhat interchangeably. And, specifically claiming that the earth must be a flat disk, rather than having four corners, would grind against those previously addressed passages in Revelation noting the earth as having four corners. On top of translation issues, they are neither interpreting the Bible correctly nor are they viewing the science correctly. Scientific problems with this Flat Earth model abound. So, which is it? Does the earth have four corners, or is it a round disk, or can it be both? Some maps have been drawn up in an attempt to unify both interpretations. Obviously, those couldn’t possibly work because, in order to produce such a map, the mapmaker would need to be able to view everywhere in the world all at once. Astronauts have actually done that from up in high Earth orbit, and what they have seen is a sphere. Let’s go back and address the theorized dome, for Flat-Earthers also claim the earth possesses a crystalline dome stretching over a flat square or disk. This dome supposedly holds in the air pressure. And, they don’t believe in gravity, denying that gravity is even a real force of nature. Scientifically, though, here is what would happen. Say you are standing in one stationary spot on that flat disk and the stars are rotating around you. Instead of the stars making a perfect circle above you, that is, unless you are standing directly at the center point on that disk, the stars would end up drawing an oval shape around you. So, when you look up and see the stars revolving around you, their paths would appear oval in shape the farther they moved away from you, and came back, and moved farther away from you, and came back, and so on. In truth, we don’t see an ovoid pattern from any point on Earth. What we do see in time-lapsed photos are the perfectly circular paths of the stars moving across the sky, and never in an oval shape. Avoiding Falling Down the Rabbit Hole Eric Hovind: Scientifically speaking, the Flat Earth Theory is riddled with problems. And, biblically, even more problems abound. The supporting verses their adherents point to do not support the view that the earth is flat because they have taken them out of context, with biblical interpretation being one of the biggest problems I see with this cockamamie theory. If only we would just read the Bible and take it for what it means. When it means something literal, then we take it literally. Like, for example, in Genesis 1-2, the six-day Creation account should be taken literally. But, when the biblical author makes references in passages that are clearly meant to be taken poetically or symbolically, then we interpret them by their proper genre and context. We have to continually be asking ourselves what the passages are saying, what are they communicating, and what are the phrases being used by God in His attempt to communicate with mankind. Nathan Jones: It does indeed appear that the Flat Earth Theory contains many glaring holes, both biblically and scientifically. A proper literal hermeneutical approach to biblical interpretation — recognizing and accepting symbols and other literary forms for what they are — is how one should properly interpret the Bible. Follow this method of biblical interpretation and you won’t get lost down the rabbit hole of the latest crackpot theory and find yourself ensnared in the cult of the Flat-Earthers. https://christinprophecy.org/articles/the-cult-of-the-flat-earthers/

Psalm 19:1 New English Translation Psalm 19[a] For the music director, a psalm of David. 19 The heavens declare the glory of God;[b] the sky displays his handiwork.[c] Read full chapter Footnotes Psalm 19:1 sn Psalm 19. The psalmist praises God for his self-revelation in the heavens and in the Mosaic law. The psalmist concludes with a prayer, asking the Lord to keep him from sinning and to approve of his thoughts and words. Psalm 19:1 sn God’s glory refers here to his royal majesty and power. Psalm 19:1 tn Heb “and the work of his hands the sky declares.” The participles emphasize the ongoing testimony of the heavens/sky. NO "firmament" noted HERE!!! KJV Dictionary Definition: firmament firmament FIRMAMENT, n. ferm'ament. L. firmamentum, from firmus, firmo. The region of the air; the sky or heavens. In scripture, the word denotes an expanse, a wide extent; for such is the signification of the Hebrew word, coinciding with regio, region, and reach. The original therefore does not convey the sense of solidity, but of stretching, extension; the great arch or expanse over our heads, in which are placed the atmosphere and the clouds, and in which the stars appear to be placed, and are really seen. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Gen. 1:6. And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament. Ibum. 1:14. firmamental FIRMAMENT'AL, a. Pertaining to the firmament; celestial; being of the upper regions. Psalm 19:1 Authorized (King James) Version Psalm 19 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. 1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

"flat" Earth "champions"........... A MUST SEE!!!

Notice how the meteors entering and burning up in the Spherical (geoidal) Earth atmosphere DO NOT ALL APPEAR FROM THE SAME DIRECTION!!! IF, THEE Earth IS "flat", THEN ALL THE METEORS WOULD HAVE TO ENTER THE FIELD OF VIEW TRAVELING IN THE SAME DIRECTION!!! THEE "falling" "stars" IN THEE "flat" Earth "model" WOULD HAVE TO FALL TO EARTH!!! ALSO, THEE "flat" Earth "dome" WOULD PROTECT THEE Earth FROM EXTRATERRESTRIAL "objects". Like meteors. How about THIS meteor???!!! And THIS meteor???!!! AND one of the ones in Russia: WHERE, pray tell, IS THEE "flat" Earth "dome" KEEPING THE METEORS OUT???!!! "flat" Earth. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Without ANY doubt. Whatsoever.

The lowest achieved Spherical (geoidal) Earth orbit is nominally 167.4 Km or about 104.01 miles. The lowest altitude by an Earth observation satellite in orbit is 167.4 km (104 mi) and was achieved by JAXA's TSUBAME (Japan) during its mission from 23 December 2017 to 1 October 2019. https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/592663-lowest-altitude-earth-observation-satellite-in-orbit

No "flat" Earth "dome" HERE!!! This historical footage of a Saturn V Rocket Launch shows a multi stage signature against the sky that DOES NOT bounce off a "flat" Earth "dome". Notice the Saturn V multi stage signature and compared to the "flat" Earth "chanting" video. At about 40 miles above the Spherical (geoidal) Earth surface, the Saturn V contrail exhibits characteristics uniquiely different than at the initial launch and lower altitudes due to a much lower atmospheric pressure at the higher altitude. Ample Saturn V Rocket Engine power and control keep the Saturn V on the preprogrammed trajectory that appears like an arc. NOT "bouncing" "off" a "flat" Earth "dome". Depending on the Saturn V Rocket Engine firing and alttitude, the contrail appearance will vary. The "spinning" "rocket" in the "flat" Earth "dome" video suggests an out of control rocket since known stable rockets under launch propulsion do not spin and only rotate at pre programmed intervals for a specific amount of turn. At the end of a rocket launch below low Spherical (geoidal) Earth orbit, the rocket will display out of control behavior due to the lack of propulsion. Ultimate falling back to the Spherical (geoidal) Earth due to, of course, gravity. Something THIS "flat" Earth "participant" "experienced". EPIC "flat" Earth FAIL. Just like ALL the other "flat" Earth "initiatives." The "flat" Earth "dome" is NOT supported by Psalm 148:4: Psalm 148:4 New English Translation 4 Praise him, O highest heaven, and you waters above the sky.[a] Read full chapter Footnotes Psalm 148:4 sn The “water” mentioned here corresponds to the “waters above” mentioned in Gen 1:7. See also Ps 104:3. For a discussion of the picture envisioned by the psalmist, see L. I. J. Stadelmann, The Hebrew Conception of the World, 47.

The first reason that the founders created the Electoral College is hard to understand today. The founding fathers were afraid of direct election to the Presidency. They feared a tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come to power. Hamilton wrote in the Federalist Papers: https://www.historycentral.com/elections/Electoralcollgewhy.html#:~:text=The first reason that the,opinion and come to power. Well, I do NOT think it is hard to understand TODAY!!! EXCEPT in the case of FRAUDULENT ELECTIONS. Like in 2020. Well, somehow the NATIONAL IDIOT GOT THROUGH INSTEAD OF THE DULY ELECTED REAL PRESIDENT Donald J Trump!!! Federalist Paper 68 https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.asp The REAL issue is CIRCUMVENTION OF THE 15th Ammendment: Article XV. Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude— Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. The vote of the citizens of the United States WAS ABRIDGED WITHOUT A DOUBT!!! AND Congress DID NOTHING ABOUT IT EXCEPT LIE!!!

In a Democracy, WOKE "individuals" "think" they can remove firearms simply by thinking and voting so from law abiding Citizens who have the unalienable right to keep and bear arms. In a Republic, the law abiding Citizens law down the law on WOKE "individuals" exercising the law abiding Citizen's unalienable right to keep and bear arms by all means. Always when necessary.

Yes, I find it amazing how facts, data, provable physical phenomena, testimony from trustworthy participants and witnesses, and Biblical Truth could be so readily disposed for baseless ideals. Like denying the rising and setting of the Sun. Isaiah 45:5-6 New International Version 5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, 6 so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting people may know there is none besides me. I am the Lord, and there is no other. Do, pray tell, "flat" Earth "champions" REALLY believe there are more gods than God The Father/God The Son Jesus Christ/God The Holy Spirit (the TRIUNE God)???!!! The "flat" Earth "champions CAN NOT answer a basic question as to whether or NOT the Sun rises and sets South of the Arctic Circle and North of the Antarctic Circle. The reason "flat" Earth "champions" will not answer the question as to whether or not the Sun rises and sets is because the Sun REALLY DOES rise and set so "flat" Earth does NOT exist while the Earth REALLY IS Spherical (geoidal) in shape. So, "flat" Earth "champions" will then HAVE to verify the Earth is Spherical (geoidal) in shape. "flat" Earth "champions" REALLY DO PROVE THE Earth is Spherical (geoidal) in shape. OUTSTANDING JOB "flat" Earth "champions" FOR PROVING THE Earth IS Spherical (geoidal) IN SHAPE!!!

I watched the whole video thinking some revelation was about to be revealed near or at the end of Neil Armstrong's life. Like some unexplainalble phenomena during the Apollo mission trip to the moon and back. I think two secrets were revealed although not mentioned specifically in the video: The moon landing conspiracy is a hoax (the noted Apollo astronauts did actually land on the moon and returned back to earth safely). Neil Armstrong was a very resolved and private man who served his Country in an exceptionally honorable manner and did not want public acclaim. The video rightly noted in a straightforward manner there are baseless conspiracists stating the Apollo missions and moon landing then returning back to earth safely is a hoax. The Satern V rocket launches could not be hidden and could not be faked. Yet, some claim otherwise.

The image on the video is a teaser. The video describes the fallacious challenges of those who promote the conspiracy of fake moon landings such as Apollo 11.

We are ALL GONNA DIE!!! Symptoms I had when I had COVID TWICE. Actually, I did NOT die. In addition, I lost the sense of taste for about a day with the first COVID infection. I also had a very thin and light secretion from the lungs for about three weeks with the first COVID infection. Big Whoop. NO lungs issues HERE. I did NOT die. As the hysteria prone and panic stricken would believe AND think THEY are GONNA DIE WITHOUT THEE COVID WHACKCINATION!!!

2,200 years and STILL the Earth is Spherical. https://www.google.com/search?q=eratosthenes'+measurement+of+the+earth's+circumference&client=safari&sca_esv=557612269&channel=iphone_bm&ei=-lrdZJCiFdWnqtsP3MyQ6AY&oq=Eratosthenes+spherical+measurment+of+the+earth&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiLkVyYXRvc3RoZW5lcyBzcGhlcmljYWwgbWVhc3VybWVudCBvZiB0aGUgZWFydGgqAggBMgUQABiiBDIFEAAYogRIlJQBUPoUWOJZcAJ4AZABAJgBhQGgAfQHqgEDNi40uAEByAEA-AEB-AECwgIKEAAYRxjWBBiwA-IDBBgAIEHiAwUSATEgQIgGAZAGCA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:8c103a55,vid:Mw30CgaXiQw No viable contest there!!!

The TRUTH is the Sun rises AND sets since the Earth is Spherical in shape NOT “flat” with a “flashlight” “sun” AND “moon” hovering above the “surface” AND YOU, @bigwave, WILL NOT STOP LYING IN SAYING THE Earth is “flat” AND WILL NOT STOP TWISTING The Clear Bible Passages to falsely state the Earth is “flat”. Titus 1:10-14 New American Standard Bible 10 For there are many rebellious people, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,11 who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of [a]dishonest gain. 12 One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” 13 This testimony is true. For this reason reprimand them severely so that they may be sound in the faith, 14 not paying attention to Jewish myths and commandments of men who turn away from the truth. 1 Timothy 1:3-5 New International Version Timothy Charged to Oppose False Teachers 3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer4 or to devote themselves to mythsand endless genealogies. Such things promote controversial speculationsrather than advancing God’s work—which is by faith. 5 The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. Psalm 50 A psalm of Asaph. 1 The Mighty One, God, the Lord, speaks and summons the earth from the rising of the sun to where it sets. Psalm 113:3 New International Version 3 From the rising of the sun to the place where it sets, the name of the Lord is to be praised. “flat” Earth “champions” do NOT hear The Mighty One, God, the Lord, speak AND do NOT Praise The name of The LORD because “flat” Earth “champions” MOCK HIM by DENYING the Sun rises AND Sets. ”flat” Earth. Yep. Stupid. Stupid. STUPID. Without ANY doubt. Whatsoever.

Say or do stupid things, get stupid prizes. Well, HERE, @bigwave, is YOUR prize................. NOW, @bigwave, ANSWER THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE SUN RISES AND SETS!!! I watched YOUR, @bigwave, STUPID VIDEO NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION.

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