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    The article below mentions many Michigan Sheriffs not enforcing the recently enacted Michigan Gun Red Flag laws.

     

    I think it a good idea to participate in a local Militia under the auspices of the local County Sheriff whether or not a person chooses to carry. My understanding is a local County Sheriff can deputize an individual in their county. The Militia mechanism provides for vetting individuals prior to a potential deputization.

     

    This article points out the legal requirement for joining the Holton Township Militia.

     

    Peaceable and Law Abiding.

     

    Kinda like Carry Insurance. Being an active part of a Militia is a Ratified Bill Of Rights Amendment to The Constitution Of The United States Of America.

     

    Accordingly, non citizens of The United States Of America can not join Militia(s) so their guns can be taken away.

     

    (hint)

     

     

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/town-creates-militia-to-protect-2nd-amendment-rights-facts-matter-2-post-5631653?utm_source=Morningbrief&src_src=Morningbrief&utm_campaign=mb-2024-04-18&src_cmp=mb-2024-04-18&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAdeg5ehYYxOHA46cDv2xVRbd1xiDxVN02FjuCBkvAUrqqEns%3D

     

     

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  2. An interesting article.

     

    I suspect there are a variety of non lethal weapons technologies, not all held by The United States Of America Military, that can be deployed. This article suggests a, what I believe to be a more plausible perspective.

     

    Your comments are appreciated.

     

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/new-russia-hoax-report-blames-kremlin-for-havana-syndrome-but-evidence-suggests-otherwise-truth-over-news-5622714

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  3. Here is an article that suggests both the COVID-19 Spike Protein and COVID-19 Whackcination causes the abnormal clotting in the arteries.

     

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/spike-protein-exposure-and-clotting-pathologies-explained-dr-jordan-vaughn-5615271?utm_source=Enews&utm_campaign=etv1-2024-04-05&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAdeg5ehYYxOHA46cDv2xVRbd1xiDxVN02FjuCBkvAUrqqEns%3D
     

    Here is a telling account from a UK mortician on what is believed to be the COVID-19 Whackcination results.

     

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/deadly-quiet-5614868?utm_source=Enews&utm_campaign=etv1-2024-04-06&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAdeg5ehYYxOHA46cDv2xVRbd1xiDxVN02FjuCBkvAUrqqEns%3D

     

    I recommend at least going to 13:40 and listening to what the man has to say for less than a minute.

     

    It is as I feared. I do not wish this on anybody while it appears to be happening all around.

     

    I had suspected not all COVID-19 Whackcinations are the same to give more than a modicum of false support for the COVID-19 Whackcination effectiveness as noted here:

     

    On 1/20/2024 at 10:23 AM, girljulieta said:

    No One Was Told They Were Being Injected With Electromagnetic Devices

     

    https://rumble.com/v2ywdsk-no-one-was-told-they-were-being-injected-with-electromagnetic-devices.html

     

    The quoted article suggests that not all COVID-19 Whackcinations are the same. If having had one or more COVID-19 Whackcinations, I suggest getting the Manufacturer lot number and comparing on line to see if there are any adverse reactions to that Manufacturer lot number to act accordingly.

     

    I have had COVID-19 and variants twice or more. I have had a significant amount of time between infections and have not had any chronic effects from being infected with COVID-19. I suspect some are genetically more predisposed to adverse outcomes from COVID-19 infections as some of the previously reported articles have noted.

  4. One person's opinion on what could be an end to the Earth as we know it foretold in Scripture:

     

    2 Peter 3

    New International Version

    The Day of the Lord

    3 Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking. 2 I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.

    3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

    8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

    10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire,and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.[a]

    11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.[b] That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

    14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

    17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

    Footnotes

    2 Peter 3:10 Some manuscripts be burned up

    2 Peter 3:12 Or as you wait eagerly for the day of God to come

     

    The section of interest:

     

    10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire,and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.[a]

    11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.[b] That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

    14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him.

     

    A possible event could be the result of the WR-104 frying the Earth. Gamma Rays can penetrate deeply into substaces so I am not sure subterranean dwellings can shield occupants from the massive prolonged concentration of gamma rays.

     

     

    I suspect Peter would not have known these phenomena exist and are a possible fulfillment of scripture.

     

    Maybe this a fulfillment of Scripture.

     

    Maybe not.

     

    Maybe the Super Nova occurred at the time Adam and Eve sinned and may arrive at Earth at the time noted above in the Scriptures

     

  5. Hi Keylime,

     

    I provided the information as support for how I came up with the timeline so only supporting information, if interested.

     

    I once heard there is a Gospel Message in the first eleven names starting with Adam. Here are the names and their meanings from Cruden's Complete Concordance:

     

    Adam              red earth

    Seth               appointed

    Enos               frail, fallen man, subject to all kind of evil in body and soul

    Cainan           possessor, or purchaser; or, one that laments; or, the builder of a nest

    Mehalaleel     praise of God

    Jared             descent

    Enoch            dedicated, or disciplined and well regulated

    Methuselah   when he is dead it shall be sent, I.e., the deluge

    Lamech         powerful

    Noah             (1) rest, comfort; (2), motion, wandering

    Shem            name; I.e., distinguished

     

    Strung together for the narrative the best I remember:

     

    Man was

    appointed

    to fall and

    lamented but the

    faithful God

    came down

    teaching

    after death

    powerful

    comfort by

    HIS NAME.

     

    I am pretty sure other sources will have variants on the names and I pieced this together from memory a decade ago or so since I heard the phrase a couple decades before that.

     

    Reminds me of Romans 11:32:

     

    Romans 11:32

    New International Version

    32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

     

    Something we can all find comfort in knowing HIS provision!

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  6. 32 minutes ago, divemaster5734 said:

    Well I learned something today, I always thought the energy came from those morning cups of coffee..

     

    Red Cross blood has always had unhealthy issues.

    In 1989 I wound up having a 16 unit transfusion during an extended emergency surgery. 

    A few months later the Red Cross admitted to supplying HIV blood with the recipient testing positive for AIDS after their elective surgery.

    I was contacted by the hospital and spent the next ten years going through HIV blood tests with decreasing frequency.

    At the time I also had no clue that for some homeless folks, blood donations are a counted on as a steady revenue stream.

    Not discriminating against homeless in general, these times have caused some decent, hard working people to lose their homes through no fault of their own.

    That said, we all know the vast majority are drug addicts doing anything they can to chase down their next fix.

     

     

    I wish there was a viable alternative to receiving Red Cross blood.

    I've heard of some startups, but the process is limited, and only works if your having a planned surgery in your local area.

    If you are traveling and are involved in an accident, chances are you'll receive whatever the hospital has on hand as emergency measure, and wont even be able to decline if you are not conscious.

    Yes, that scares the heck out of me.

     

    Great post, no problems watching without a subscription.

     

     

    Thank You for the very informative follow up @divemaster5734!!!

     

    Your blood transfusion experience is exceptionally duly noted and further cause for pause for surgical considerations!

     

    Understandably, emergency, immediate, and uncontrollable surgical needs would compromise otherwise planned processes.

     

    I trust the outcome from the blood transfusion experience was negative (not HIV positive).

    Arthur Ashe

    Arthur Ashe was the first African American to win the men's singles titles at Wimbledon and the U.S. Open, and the first African American man to be ranked No. 1 in the world.
    UPDATED: NOV 16, 2021
     

    Arthur Ashe Photo: Dave Mathias/The Denver Post via Getty Images

    (1943-1993)

    Who Was Arthur Ashe?

    Arthur Ashe became the first (and remains the only) African American male tennis player to win the U.S. Open and Wimbledon singles titles. He was also the first African American man to earn the No. 1 ranking in the world and the first to earn induction into the Tennis Hall of Fame. Always an activist, when Ashe learned that he had contracted AIDS via a blood transfusion, he turned his efforts to raising awareness about the disease, before finally succumbing to it on February 6, 1993.

     

    Unfortunately, this tennis legend had a different outcome.

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  7. 16 hours ago, keylime said:

    Hi Synopsis. Love your post.

    From Adam to Abraham the Father of the Nation of Israel was 1948 years. From the Second Adam (Jesus Christ) to the rebirth of the Nation of Israel was 1948 years. There are so many incredible things, timings, events told and foretold in the Word of God, prophecies that have come to pass exactly as prophesied and prophecies that will be fulflilled in these Last Days it can make your head spin. In fact, the only prophecies that have not yet come to pass in the Word are those that refer to the Last Days and Jesus' Second Coming.

    The name Methuselah means "When he dies it shall come." Yes Methuselah died and the flood came. His very name was prophetic. Noah's son Seth(whom many Bible scholars believe was Melchizedek) lived long enough to know Jacob for fifty years. So Abraham, Isaac and then Jacob knew his great great grandfather who actually went through the flood for fifty years hearing the stories that led to the flood, etc. First hand accounts.

    There are no contradictions in the Bible. There is only lack of  original Hebrew and Greek Word study and lack of understanding. 

    Happy Easter every one! Jesus died so we can live. Only believe.

     

    Happy Easter KeyLime and All DinarVets!!!

     

    Here is a song that a friend shared with me recently that I really enjoy and appreciate!!!

     

     

    Praise The LORD!!!

     

    HE Is Risen!!!

     

    By the way, the word Hallelu Yah............................

     

    Psalm 146:1

    New International Version

    Psalm 146

    1 Praise the Lord.[a]

    Praise the Lord, my soul.

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    Footnotes

    Psalm 146:1 Hebrew Hallelu Yah; also in verse 10

     

    Maybe worship of The LORD is so personal, we can call HIM by HIS or a highly affectionate shortened version of YAHWEH when we worship HIM by God The Holy Spirit?

     

    You note a struggle I had with the time line for the first portion. Here are the related Scriptures:

     

    Genesis 11:26-32

    New International Version

    26 After Terah had lived 70 years, he became the father of Abram, Nahor and Haran.

    Abram’s Family

    27 This is the account of Terah’s family line.

    Terah became the father of Abram, Nahor and Haran. And Haran became the father of Lot. 28 While his father Terah was still alive, Haran died in Ur of the Chaldeans, in the land of his birth. 29 Abram and Nahor both married. The name of Abram’s wife was Sarai, and the name of Nahor’s wife was Milkah; she was the daughter of Haran, the father of both Milkah and Iskah. 30 Now Sarai was childless because she was not able to conceive.

    31 Terah took his son Abram, his grandson Lot son of Haran, and his daughter-in-law Sarai, the wife of his son Abram, and together they set out from Ur of the Chaldeans to go to Canaan. But when they came to Harran, they settled there.

    32 Terah lived 205 years, and he died in Harran.

     

    Genesis 12

    New International Version

    The Call of Abram

    12 The Lord had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.

    2 “I will make you into a great nation,
        and I will bless you;
    I will make your name great,
        and you will be a blessing.[a]
    3 I will bless those who bless you,
        and whoever curses you I will curse;
    and all peoples on earth
        will be blessed through you.”[b]

    4 So Abram went, as the Lord had told him; and Lot went with him. Abram was seventy-five years old when he set out from Harran. 5 He took his wife Sarai, his nephew Lot, all the possessions they had accumulated and the people they had acquired in Harran, and they set out for the land of Canaan, and they arrived there.

    6 Abram traveled through the land as far as the site of the great tree of Moreh at Shechem. At that time the Canaanites were in the land. 7 The Lord appeared to Abram and said, “To your offspring[c] I will give this land.” So he built an altar there to the Lord, who had appeared to him.

    8 From there he went on toward the hills east of Bethel and pitched his tent, with Bethel on the west and Ai on the east. There he built an altar to the Lord and called on the name of the Lord.

    9 Then Abram set out and continued toward the Negev.

    Abram in Egypt

    10 Now there was a famine in the land, and Abram went down to Egypt to live there for a while because the famine was severe. 11 As he was about to enter Egypt, he said to his wife Sarai, “I know what a beautiful woman you are. 12 When the Egyptians see you, they will say, ‘This is his wife.’ Then they will kill me but will let you live. 13 Say you are my sister, so that I will be treated well for your sake and my life will be spared because of you.”

    14 When Abram came to Egypt, the Egyptians saw that Sarai was a very beautiful woman. 15 And when Pharaoh’s officials saw her, they praised her to Pharaoh, and she was taken into his palace. 16 He treated Abram well for her sake, and Abram acquired sheep and cattle, male and female donkeys, male and female servants, and camels.

    17 But the Lord inflicted serious diseases on Pharaoh and his household because of Abram’s wife Sarai. 18 So Pharaoh summoned Abram. “What have you done to me?” he said. “Why didn’t you tell me she was your wife? 19 Why did you say, ‘She is my sister,’ so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!” 20 Then Pharaoh gave orders about Abram to his men, and they sent him on his way, with his wife and everything he had.

    Footnotes

    Genesis 12:2 Or be seen as blessed

    Genesis 12:3 Or earth / will use your name in blessings (see 48:20)

    Genesis 12:7 Or seed

     

    Stephen’s Speech to the Sanhedrin

    7 Then the high priest asked Stephen, “Are these charges true?”

    2 To this he replied: “Brothers and fathers, listen to me! The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham while he was still in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Harran. 3 ‘Leave your country and your people,’ God said, ‘and go to the land I will show you.’[a]

    4 “So he left the land of the Chaldeans and settled in Harran. After the death of his father, God sent him to this land where you are now living.

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    Footnotes

    Acts 7:3 Gen. 12:1

     

    At first, I came up with 1,948 as the years from the creation of Adam to Abram(ham)'s birth. On closer look, Acts 7:4 states Abram(ham)'s father (Terah) was dead when Abram(ham) left and entered Caanan and Egypt.

     

    Due to the famine, Abram(ham) journeyed to Egypt seemingly early on after leaving the land of the Chaldeans (Harran).

     

    As a side note, apparently, nomadic cultures cede a majority of the possessions of the deceased father to the oldest son. Haran was the oldest son of Terah and Lot was his (Haran's) son. A possible explanation of why Lot journeyed with Abram(ham) since Lot may have retained some patriarchal rites through his deceased father Haran. Later, Abram(ham) and Lot parted ways with accorded possessions which may have been a willing forfeiture of the obligation(s) Abram(ham) bore with regards to the possessions and Lot's familial rites.

     

    Typically, the oldest son is listed first. Here Haran is noted as the oldest son yet Abram(ham) appears as the first listed. As a result, there may be pliable reasoning to suggest Abram(ham) was born much later (year 130 of Terah's life) rather than the "bunched" births of Terah at year 70 while Abram(ham) was the most prominent or favored.

     

    There is also a mystery to unfold around the age of Noah when Shem was born. Here are the related Scriptures:

     

    Genesis 5:32

    New International Version

    32 After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham and Japheth.

     

    Genesis 7:6

    New International Version

    6 Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the earth.

     

    Genesis 9:28-29

    New International Version

    28 After the flood Noah lived 350 years. 29 Noah lived a total of 950 years, and then he died.

     

    Genesis 11:10

    New International Version

    From Shem to Abram

    10 This is the account of Shem’s family line.

    Two years after the flood, when Shem was 100 years old, he became the father[a] of Arphaxad.

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    Footnotes

    Genesis 11:10 Father may mean ancestor; also in verses 11-25.

     

    Genesis 11:10 is the verse that shifts (advances) the time 2 years. So, instead of Noah being 500 years old, Noah is assumed to be 502 years old when Shem was born. Conversely, Noah may have been 498 years old when Shem was born.

     

    Several things things are completely unknown as of today. The times mentioned may be singular in their representation. Alternately, there may be alternate times or epochs noted for individuals.

     

    End result, I do not think the Earth or universe, for that matter, is much, if any, older than nominally 6,000 years. I want to:

     

    1 Peter 3:15-16

    New International Version

    15 But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, 16 keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.

     

    2 Timothy 2:15-16

    New International Version

    15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. 16 Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.

     

    I have a real hard time with Evolutionists and Atheists who claim the universe is millions and billions of years old so I made this foray into the Scriptures about a plausible time line.

     

    Albeit imperfect.

     

    Here is an interesting article on a comparable and much more scholarly timeline:

     

    https://answersingenesis.org/archaeology/ancient-egypt/a-correct-chronology/

     

    The time I come with for the Exodus is 1,430 B.C. (or B.C.E.). The article notes the Exodus occurred at 1,445 B.C. (B.C.E.). I have seen another reputable account to note the Exodus occurred at 1,446 B.C. (B.C.E.). This is in Tim Mahoney's Thinking Man Productions:

     

    https://thinkingmanfilms.com/

     

    Although not expressly noted, there are a couple occurrences in the films where the time is expressed.

     

    Another notable anchor is the Death and Resurrection of Our LORD and Savior Jesus Christ.

     

    This production is a compelling notation of the Death of Our LORD and Savior Jesus Christ on April 3, 33 A.D.

     

    https://bethlehemstar.com/

     

    This production notes the Maji from The East as potentially being of a school of Daniel. Plausible. Worth consideration and a compelling reason why God The Son Jesus Christ is The King the Maji sought. The production is a lawyer on a multi year journey who was able with potential astronomy determine the Maji used to follow the star. Likewise, the lawyer gave a compelling case for April 3, 33 A.D.

     

    Apparently, a key notation is the accompanying Blood Moon. I have not studied in great detail the following article while I only provide it since the Bethlehem Star production notes the same thing regarding the Blood Moon:

     

    https://www.bible.ca/archeology/jesus-christ-died-death-cross-eclipse-red-blood-moon-sun-darkness-earthquake-bodies-raised-resurrection-temple-veil-torn-in-two-centurian-son-of-god-3-april-33AD.htm

     

    The astronomy in the Bethlehem Star production indicates Gabriel appeared to Mary circa September 3 B.C. (B.C.E.). Nominally 9 months later (May - June 2 B.C. (B.C.E)), God The Son Jesus Christ began HIS appearance as God in the flesh.

     

    Luke 1:26-38

    New International Version

    The Birth of Jesus Foretold

    26 In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28 The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”

    29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”

    34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”

    35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[a] the Son of God. 36 Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be unable to conceive is in her sixth month. 37 For no word from God will ever fail.”

    38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.

     

    Luke 2:1-21

    New International Version

    The Birth of Jesus

    2 In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. 2 (This was the first census that took place while[a] Quirinius was governor of Syria.) 3 And everyone went to their own town to register.

    4 So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. 5 He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. 6 While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, 7 and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no guest room available for them.

    8 And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people. 11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. 12 This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”

    13 Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,

    14 “Glory to God in the highest heaven,
        and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests.”

    15 When the angels had left them and gone into heaven, the shepherds said to one another, “Let’s go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has happened, which the Lord has told us about.”

    16 So they hurried off and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby, who was lying in the manger. 17 When they had seen him, they spread the word concerning what had been told them about this child, 18 and all who heard it were amazed at what the shepherds said to them. 19 But Mary treasured up all these things and pondered them in her heart. 20 The shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things they had heard and seen, which were just as they had been told.

    21 On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.

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    Footnotes

    Luke 2:2 Or This census took place before

     

    One of the key indicators is the stable not having sheep. Apparently, ewes lamb in the May/June time frame and lamb out in the open fields.

     

    The Bethlehem Star production gives the specific date of December 25, 2 B.C. (B.C.E.) as the date the Maji appeared before God The Son Jesus Christ.

     

    Accordingly, the 1,948 year span may need to be increased 1 - 2 years to reflect the actual birth of God The Son Jesus Christ.

     

    I believe there are irrevocable promises given to the Jews. For sure God The Son Jesus Christ is the only way of Salvation.

     

    Psalm 130:7-8

    New International Version

    7 Israel, put your hope in the Lord,
        for with the Lord is unfailing love
        and with him is full redemption.
    8 He himself will redeem Israel
        from all their sins.

     

    Simeon and Ana had insights into God The Messiah Jesus Christ.

     

    Luke 2:22-40

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    Jesus Presented in the Temple

    22 When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”[a]), 24 and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.”[b]

    25 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was on him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen the Lord’s Messiah. 27 Moved by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts. When the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him what the custom of the Law required, 28 Simeon took him in his arms and praised God, saying:

    29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
        you may now dismiss[c] your servant in peace.
    30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
    31     which you have prepared in the sight of all nations:
    32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
        and the glory of your people Israel.”

    33 The child’s father and mother marveled at what was said about him. 34 Then Simeon blessed them and said to Mary, his mother: “This child is destined to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against, 35 so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed. And a sword will pierce your own soul too.”

    36 There was also a prophet, Anna, the daughter of Penuel, of the tribe of Asher. She was very old; she had lived with her husband seven years after her marriage, 37 and then was a widow until she was eighty-four.[d] She never left the temple but worshiped night and day, fasting and praying. 38 Coming up to them at that very moment, she gave thanks to God and spoke about the child to all who were looking forward to the redemption of Jerusalem.

    39 When Joseph and Mary had done everything required by the Law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee to their own town of Nazareth. 40 And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was on him.

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    Luke 2:23 Exodus 13:2,12

    Luke 2:24 Lev. 12:8

    Luke 2:29 Or promised, / now dismiss

    Luke 2:37 Or then had been a widow for eighty-four years.

     

    Looks like God gave them supernatural insight into who the baby God The Son Jesus Christ really is.

     

    1 Peter 1:10-12

    New International Version

    10 Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, 11 trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of the Messiah and the glories that would follow. 12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things.

     

    I can't help but wonder if the two silver trumpets represent both Jews and Born Again Believers In God The Son Jesus Christ.

     

    Numbers 10:1-3

    New International Version

    The Silver Trumpets

    10 The Lord said to Moses: 2 “Make two trumpets of hammered silver, and use them for calling the community together and for having the camps set out. 3 When both are sounded, the whole community is to assemble before you at the entrance to the tent of meeting.

     

    Both are called to call others to HIM.

     

    2 Corinthians 5:10-21

    New International Version

    10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.

    The Ministry of Reconciliation

    11 Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade others. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to your conscience. 12 We are not trying to commend ourselves to you again, but are giving you an opportunity to take pride in us, so that you can answer those who take pride in what is seen rather than in what is in the heart. 13 If we are “out of our mind,” as some say, it is for God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you. 14 For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died. 15 And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.

    16 So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:[a] The old has gone, the new is here! 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. 20 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. 21 God made him who had no sin to be sin[b] for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

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    2 Corinthians 5:17 Or Christ, that person is a new creation.

    2 Corinthians 5:21 Or be a sin offering

     

    In a sense, the trumpet call is now through each individual Born Again Believer In God The Son Jesus Christ for HIS trumpet call in the future.

     

    Another related theme:

     

    The Remnant of Israel

    11 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”[a]? 4 And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”[b] 5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6 And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.

    7 What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly they did not obtain. The elect among them did, but the others were hardened, 8 as it is written:

    “God gave them a spirit of stupor,
        eyes that could not see
        and ears that could not hear,
    to this very day.”[c]

    9 And David says:

    “May their table become a snare and a trap,
        a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
    10 May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see,
        and their backs be bent forever.”[d]

    Ingrafted Branches

    11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring!

    13 I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection brought reconciliation to the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.

    17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

    22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

    All Israel Will Be Saved

    25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

    “The deliverer will come from Zion;
        he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
    27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
        when I take away their sins.”[g]

    28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

    Doxology

    33 Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and[i] knowledge of God!
        How unsearchable his judgments,
        and his paths beyond tracing out!
    34 “Who has known the mind of the Lord?
        Or who has been his counselor?”[j]
    35 “Who has ever given to God,
        that God should repay them?”[k]
    36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
        To him be the glory forever! Amen.

    Footnotes

    Romans 11:3 1 Kings 19:10,14

    Romans 11:4 1 Kings 19:18

    Romans 11:8 Deut. 29:4; Isaiah 29:10

    Romans 11:10 Psalm 69:22,23

    Romans 11:26 Or and so

    Romans 11:27 Or will be

    Romans 11:27 Isaiah 59:20,21; 27:9 (see Septuagint); Jer. 31:33,34

    Romans 11:31 Some manuscripts do not have now.

    Romans 11:33 Or riches and the wisdom and the

    Romans 11:34 Isaiah 40:13

    Romans 11:35 Job 41:11

     

    Well, OK, a long read while I want to provide the basis for what I stated not as absolute but something(s) to consider. I don't want to be misleading in any way.

     

    Again, the timeline(s) I presented are only for consideration and would be extremely difficult to note with absolute accuracy on any given calendar like the commonly used today Gregorian Calendar.

     

    Enjoy!

     

     

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  8. One thing I did not mention is a potential parallel between the seven days of creation and the potential 7,000 years. 6,000 potential years to the millenial kingdom then 1,000 years of the millenial kingdom.

     

    Revelation 20:1-10

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    The Thousand Years

    20 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

    4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

    The Judgment of Satan

    7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur,where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

     

    After the six days of creation, God rested the seventh day. Looks like the Millenial Kingdom will be a time of rest.

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  9. I did a rigorous evaluation of a Biblical timeline to piece together a supportable length of time from the creation of Adam until now that has lasted over a decade. I didn't spend this whole time on it while I picked it up as questions went through my mind and I investigated. I fully acknowledge this is not entirely accurate and should only be viewed with passing consideration.

     

    A couple key Scriptures:

     

    Matthew 24:35-37

    New International Version

    35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

    The Day and Hour Unknown

    36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

     

    2 Peter 3:7-9

    New International Version

    7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

    8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

     

    What I pieced together:

     

    From the creation of Adam to Abram(ham) entering Canaan and Egypt       2,083 years - multiple texts

    Adam to Abram(ham) entering Canaan and Egypt to the Exodus                    430 years - Exodus 12:40-41

    Exodus To 4th Year Of Solomon's Reign                                                            480 years - 1 Kings 6:1

    4th Year Of Solomon's Reign To The Judean Kingdom Captivity - Babylon    430 years - multiple texts

    70 Year Exile Of Babylon                                                                                      70 years - Jeremiah 25:8-14

    Daniel's 7 + 62 Weeks Of Years                                                                         483 years - Daniel 9:24-27

     

    The math from the creation of Adam to the Death and Resurrection Of God The Son Jesus Christ is 3,976 years. We can know God The Son Jesus Christ was crucified just before Passover on Friday, April 3, 33 A.D.

     

    This puts the Gregorian Calendar year zero at 3,943.

     

    So, we are nominally now at year 5,967 from the time of the creation of Adam.

     

    Daniel 9:26

    New International Version

    26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing.[a] The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
     

    Isaiah 53:8

    New International Version

    8 By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away.
        Yet who of his generation protested?
    For he was cut off from the land of the living;
        for the transgression of my people he was punished.[b]

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    Isaiah 53:8 Or From arrest

    Isaiah 53:8 Or generation considered / that he was cut off from the land of the living, / that he was punished for the transgression of my people?

     

    So, if we are really in the year 5,967, there are 33 years left until the year 6,000. If a thousand years is a day and a day a thousand years, then we are looking at 2,057. Minus 7 years for the Tribulation, then we arrive at 2,050 for the Resurrection of those who have fallen asleep in God The Son Jesus Christ to be raptured as well as the remaining Believers In God The Son Jesus Christ who are alive.

     

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

    New International Version

    Believers Who Have Died

    13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

     

    Looks like God The Son Jesus Christ was Crucified 24 years before the year 4,000 (3,976). Amazing HE is ALWAYS on time!

     

    An EXTREME caution. This is ONLY for information and is in NO WISE A PREDICTION OF THE RETURN OF God The Son Jesus Christ. One may think there are nominally 26 years to 2,050 while we may, any one of us, be called to account at any time.

     

    There are a few pieces in the time line that require multiple Scripture references - even from the New Testament - to get the noted time line. The outline given is only a very brief summary of the detail in the overall timeline.

     

    A couple things I discovered.

     

    The year Methuselah died is the same year as the flood (1,656).

     

    The year Noah died is the same year as Abram(ham) was born (2,008).

     

    I fully acknowledge there are notable discrepancies in the timeline I provided and other scholarly sources. I only used Scriptures to come up with the timeline up to the commonly held Gregorian Calendar.

     

    Enjoy!

     

    Your comments are appreciated!

     

    As a passing note, here is an interesting article noting Sir Isaac Newton noting the year of God The Son Jesus Christ Return as 2,060 on the Gregorian Calendar for different reasons.

     

    https://isaac-newton.org/statement-on-the-date-2060/

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  10. Here is, what I consider, a must see video. Without regard to how one views the COVID-19 "vaccine" there is great pause for concern. The video notes nominally 6 billion people world wide have received the "vaccine" and presents some highly technical and understandable evidence to suggest adequate consideration be given to receiving a blood transfusion.

     

    I had my hips replaced in 2022. I adamantly refused any blood transfusions or human products (like platelets) for the reasons noted in the video.

     

    Let us know your perspective!

     

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/spike-protein-contamination-study-calls-for-mrna-vaccines-to-be-suspended-over-blood-bank-concerns-facts-matter-5617335?utm_source=News&src_src=News&utm_campaign=breaking-2024-03-29-2&src_cmp=breaking-2024-03-29-2&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAdeg5ehYYxOHA46cDv2xVRbd1xiDxVN02FjuCBkvAUrqqEns%3D

     

    Let me know if you can not access this 15 minute very informative video.

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  11. On 3/19/2024 at 7:28 PM, Synopsis said:

    Do Government Documents Admit That the Earth Is Flat?

     

    In my 2019 book, "link omitted", I evaluated many of the claims that flat-earthers make. With so many flat-earth claims and with more of them arising since publication of my book, I didn’t cover all the flat-earth claims out there. That is why I continue to update my study of the flat-earth movement with new web articles and blog posts. Some people may think it is a waste of time to discuss the flat-earth movement. However, theflat-earth movement presents a danger to the church. Self-professed biblical flat-earthers apply a flawed hermeneutic to Scripture. Their hyper literal approach to poetic and prophetic books wrings unfounded meanings from those passages. Flat-earthers must create in their minds a vast satanic conspiracy about the earth’s shape to support system" rel="">support belief that the earth is flat. This often results in a caustic attitude that damages couples, families, and churches. Many flat-earthers end up leaving their churches and not assembling with fellow believers as we are commanded to do. Therefore, it is important that I continue researching theflat-earth movement and report on new developments in that movement.

     

    Submitted earlier.

     

    The noted article has links to excellent technical papers about the simplifications used for flight due to negligible factors.

     

    The persistent unfounded and nonsensical premise of a "flat" Earth has no merit with personal and personally verifiable observations.

     

    Like the sun and moon rising and setting.

     

    NOW WHO, pray tell, can DENY the sun and moon rising and setting???!!!

     

    "flat" Earth "faithful" DO!!!

     

    The "flat" Earth "faithful" Cult poses a threat to their own mental health and well being as well as being a real and present danger to those around them especially when their belief system is irrefutably shown to be false.

     

    No amount of twisting Bible passages (or misusing Ye Olde Authorized 1611 King Jimmy passages WITHOUT the context of the original Hebrew) or attempting to undermine the reality of a Spherical (Geoidal) Earth validates a "flat" Earth nonsensical distortion of what is really real.

     

    Like Born Again Believers in God The Son Jesus Christ going to the moon and returning to the Spherical (Geoidal) Earth safely.

     

    Multiple times.

     

    And NOT lying.

     

    Not lying like "flat" Earth "faithful".

     

    "flat" Earth.

     

    Stupid.

     

    Stupid.
     

    STUPID.

     

    Period.

     

    "flat" Earth.

     

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  12. 3 hours ago, bigwave said:

    Previously posted a million pages back, but it is always good to review the facts:

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    As previously noted……

     

     

    The notion of “flat” Earth has proven time and again to be entirely errant.

     

    Rowbotham was about to plunge into a career that, to this day, rubs shoulders with the Flat Earth movement and other conspiracy scenes. He was about to become a huckster of miracle cures.

     

    As previously noted.

     

    ”flat” Earth.

     

    Stupid.

     

    Stupid.

     

    STUPID.

     

    ”flat” Earth.

     

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  13. How the Father of Flat-Earthers Arose From a Nutty Commune

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    Photo Illustration by Luis G. Rendon/The Daily Beast/Getty

    Manea Fen was a not very successful socialist commune in 19th-century Cambridgeshire, England, but it lives in history as the breeding ground of modern flat-earth belief.

    Kelly Weill

    Published Feb. 20, 2022 5:16AM EST 

    They were beggars and scholars and out-of-work lace makers, dreamers and drunkards, decent farmers and hopelessly bad ones. They were bricklayers, some honest and some exploiting an obscure loophole in brickmaking law to commit tax fraud. They were at odds with the local press, accused of sex scandals, and eternally feuding among themselves. And from 1838 to 1841, they were all stuck there together in the worst little utopia in all of Cambridgeshire, England.

    “They paid much more attention to the beer shops and the company of the lowest prostitutes” than to their work, one griped about his neighbors.

    “To make a successful Community all parties must be economical and industrious, and must not, like Mr. Kirk, frequently get up after breakfast,” others complained of a comrade in an anonymous collective letter to the commune newspaper.

    These People Really Believe the Earth Is Flat

    LINEAR THINKING

    Kelly Weill

    This was Manea Fen, a short-lived socialist commune scooped out of the wetlands. Staffed by soft-handed idealists rebelling against England’s Industrial Revolution and local laborers seeking more than starvation wages, Manea Fen was a beacon for people chasing a new world. They found it, though not in a way they could have imagined. By its second year, the whole project would become an embarrassing flop that would send its founder into debt and most of its members slinking back into polite society. But as the weeds reclaimed Manea Fen’s homesteads, the commune’s real export would blossom across the country. Up from Manea Fen’s marshy plains rose modern Flat Earth theory, a conspiracy theory so audacious it could eclipse a planet. It was entirely one man’s fault.

    Samuel Birley Rowbotham was twenty-two, radical, and, according to a socialist newspaper’s account, occasionally high off his mind on laughing gas when he began imagining a new world in 1838. That year, he was one of the first to answer a local farmer’s call to build the planned utopian society of Manea Fen. Rowbotham and the farmer comrade, William Hodson, were followers of Robert Owen, a utopian socialist who envisioned grand, sweeping paradises made up of cooperative worker communes. (Working before socialist heavy hitters like Karl Marx, Owen argued not for society-wide class struggle and revolution, but for model communes that would show the world how to live peacefully.) The year 1838 was a boom time for English utopians. Workers, dirt-poor and fed up near the end of the First Industrial Revolution, banded together in experimental live-work settlements where they hoped they could break the accelerating wheels of capitalism.

    Few photographs exist of Rowbotham. If you ask around at a modern Flat Earth conference, someone might be able to sell you an old pamphlet with a picture of him as a stern, round-faced man of middle age. I like to imagine him in his early years, however, not as an aging man from an old book, but as a young idealist who would have gotten by just fine in the twenty-first century. The young Rowbotham liked to get high and litigate obscure political arguments with other socialists in their niche newspapers. Substitute those newspapers for social media, and he’d be indistinguishable from dozens of people I know in modern life. Rowbotham had one more commonality with contemporary Twitter users: he lived in a moment ripe for conspiracy theories.

    Conspiratorial thinking is not a weird pathology, experienced by some and absent in others. It’s part of a mental process hardwired into all of us, from Rowbotham’s era and beforehand and afterward. The same powers of abstraction that make humans good at detecting patterns (like anticipating storms when dark clouds gather) can make us imagine patterns where they don’t exist, especially when we’re feeling stressed or powerless. Rather than languish in the unknown, we tell ourselves stories about the secret causes of our troubles. All of us do this. For instance, after failing my driver’s test three times, an explanation emerged in the back of my mind: maybe the Department of Motor Vehicles secretly had to flunk a certain quota of student drivers. The stress of the situation (being demonstrably bad at driving), coupled with a misunderstood pattern (the apparent impossibility of passing a road test) and a comforting explanation (I wasn’t a traffic hazard; I was being oppressed by the iron boot of the state) turned my botched parallel parking into a conspiracy theory. I passed on round four.

    Since he was a boy, Rowbotham would later claim, he had always believed he lived on a flat planet.

    In short, conspiracy theories help us feel safe by providing an explanation for things that feel incomprehensible and beyond our control. This dynamic can influence us in measurably silly ways. Dutch psychologists, for example, found that if students were asked to describe a situation that made them feel powerless, they were more likely to subsequently believe conspiracy theories about a controversial train line near campus.

    Moments of rapid industrialization and income inequality—like Rowbotham’s and arguably our own—are prime sources of precarity and uncertainty. In the United States, during the Second Industrial Revolution in the late 1800s, for example, newspapers logged a spike in conspiracy-minded letters to the editor, which contemporary researchers attribute to laborers’ worries that new technologies would cast them into unemployment. Though newspapers were not yet in widespread circulation during Rowbotham’s youth, the First Industrial Revolution produced many of the same anxieties as the Second, including those that inspired Owen to build worker-friendly communities.

    Seeking to build an anti-capitalist utopia in rapidly industrializing England, Rowbotham and Hodson took a tour of existing Owenite communes in an attempt to drum up support for their own efforts in Manea Fen. But while Hodson, a devout socialist who would eventually bankrupt himself for the cause, was focused on earning membership and finding financial backing, Rowbotham might have been hatching a secret plot. It was one, he would later write, that he had fomented since childhood.

    Since he was a boy, Rowbotham would later claim, he had always believed he lived on a flat planet. Even in the early 1800s, this was supposedly enough to get the young Rowbotham into trouble at school. Though twenty-first-century Americans love to portray Brits from past centuries as Flat Earthers (for instance, a 2020 Super Bowl commercial depicted English peasants talking about Flat Earth), people have known the planet was round for thousands of years. By Rowbotham’s time, schools had long been teaching a fairly modern model of the solar system.

    One hundred eighty years after Rowbotham’s experiments on the canal, I’ve met dozens of Flat Earthers who have cited the nineteenth-century experiments in their own writings.

    Rowbotham claimed he never took to his school’s teachings, and that he tried sneaking out of a school astronomy lesson, which he believed was bogus. Those doubts compounded when he searched the Bible for confirmation of his beliefs. He concluded that if Sir Isaac Newton’s model of the solar system—round planets orbiting a round sun—was true, then God was dead. “Again and again, the feeling came over me that as the Newtonian system appeared so plausible and so grand in its extent and comprehensiveness, it might after all be correct,” Rowbotham later wrote of his path to Flat Earth, “and, if so, there could be no heaven for man’s future enjoyment; no higher existence than on this earth; no spiritual and immortal creatures, and therefore no God or Creator.”

    Was Rowbotham really a childhood Flat Earther? We only have his questionable word for it. But even before Manea Fen broke ground, Rowbotham had begun shaping it in a way that would doom the commune and put Flat Earth theory on the map.

    His early membership in Manea Fen gave the young Rowbotham considerable power over the collective. Hodson named him secretary of the group, and Rowbotham went to work looking for a suitable location for the project. He found it on the shores of Cambridge’s Old Bedford Canal. Rowbotham was adamant about starting the commune on the canal banks. They “would form a beautiful promenade in the summer evening,” Rowbotham told his comrades. When other Owenites panned his choice (not enough winding river bends and birdsong for a paradise), Rowbotham doubled down, his conviction becoming tinged with fanaticism; he had to have his commune there.

    Why not, in the spirit of revolutionary harmony, just move Manea Fen to one of swampy Cambridgeshire’s many natural waterways? Rowbotham’s fixation on the Bedford Canal might have been more than socialist devotion. He may have been guided by ulterior motives. Pin-straight and pancake-flat to the untrained eye, the Bedford Canal, nicknamed the Bedford Level, looked rather like a flat line stretching across the visible length of a flat planet. It was a gift to anyone hoping to argue that Earth is not a globe. Early in his work to build the Manea Fen colony, Rowbotham began making repeat trips to the canal to conduct experiments.

    Earth curves at approximately eight inches per mile squared. (Real mathematicians use more precise formulas, but for very short experiments like Rowbotham’s, approximations are fine.) If you lie on your stomach and gaze at the horizon from one mile away, a barely perceptible eight inches of Earth will be hidden behind the planet’s curve. If you can see two miles away, thirty-two inches of Earth will have curved out of view. Six miles away, the ground will have dropped twenty-four feet below your line of sight. This has been more or less the established model of the planet since Pythagoras proposed a spherical Earth around 500 BCE.

    Rowbotham, however, saw the world differently. When wading neck-deep in the canal with a telescope, he claimed, he could see the full height of boats sailing at the far end. When the canal froze in winter, his telescope could spot ice-skaters six miles away. Those damp sojourns would go on to haunt the future. One hundred eighty years after Rowbotham’s experiments on the canal, I’ve met dozens of Flat Earthers who have cited the nineteenth-century experiments in their own writings or, despite their internet connections, traveled to the canal themselves to re-create the “Bedford Level test.” These modern Flat Earthers may as well have been citing a fantasy novel. Rowbotham was incorrect (archaeologists who studied Manea Fen are doubtful he even had an adequate telescope) or outright lying (those same archaeologists tried replicating his experiment and found it to show a round earth). For years, he wouldn’t even discuss his findings with the masses, and none of his commune peers appear to have adopted his burgeoning theory.

    Rowbotham had made a name for himself by picking an undesirable plot of land by the canal and staffing it with hard-drinking layabouts.

    At the time, however, Rowbotham had other problems on his plate. Manea Fen was, functionally, a mess, and people blamed him. When the colony opened on the canal banks around Christmas 1838, Rowbotham recruited a sordid crew, many of them more interested in drinking than working. Visiting socialists were appalled and accused him of gathering the laziest leftists he could find. (The accusations were a little unfair. The laziest man on the commune was probably not a Rowbotham recruit, but a man named Kirk who moved in of his own accord and immediately demanded the right to build a cave and live in it as a hermit. And even the commune’s most ambitious workers were likely cutting corners: archaeologists who studied the commune suspect the Owenites routinely dodged their taxes by selling bricks mislabeled as “drainage” materials, in what looked pretty clearly like a scheme to cash in on a tax loophole for toilet products.)

    Regardless of fault in recruitment strategy, the utopia had other issues. Despite the commune’s socialist mission, some early workers claimed they received no pay for their labor. “I am without home and without bread,” one man complained when he abandoned the commune after three unpaid months. As for Manea Fen’s intellectual aims, its early occupants spent their time “finding fault with one another and with everything about them,” engaging in “useless discussions,” and micromanaging their comrades, member E. Wastney later wrote. Other Owenite communes and newspapers, already suspicious of Rowbotham’s project, latched on to these stories.

    The sex scandal made matters worse. Hodson, Manea Fen’s official founder, believed in equality for women. Like so many male feminists of his moment and the future, however, his ideological commitment wavered in practice, and Manea Fen never had any significant female leadership. For some time during Rowbotham’s tenure, though, commune leadership condemned the institution of marriage as oppressive to women and encouraged more independent sexual relationships. At this, all the leading Owenite newspapers pounced. The commune, already unpopular, was now practicing free love and polygamy, they alleged. The scandal spread. Owenite committees across the country held inquiries. Hodson’s and Rowbotham’s names began to float to the top of these investigations, and disillusioned Manea Fen members began quitting the commune en masse. Hodson was ultimately able to shake free of the allegations. But Rowbotham, who had made a name for himself by picking an undesirable plot of land by the canal and staffing it with hard-drinking layabouts, was not so fortunate. In a desperate plea to keep his spot in the commune, he wrote an April 1839 letter to Owen, asking the socialist leader to help resolve “a little confusion in our Society” with regard to whether or not marriage was bad. He did not receive a response.

    By summer, the Manea Fen commune had cast him out. Rowbotham “is neither secretary to, nor a member of this society,” a curt article in the commune’s newspaper announced. The whole utopia was bankrupt and abandoned less than two years later.

    So there Rowbotham was, drifting around the wetlands with little to his name besides a handful of counterscientific beliefs. For a short time, he tried his hand at social missionary work, but complaints against the argumentative young man piled up. He dropped out in a matter of months, abandoning his efforts and denouncing Owenism. Further fringes were already calling him. Casting off the name that had become associated with a socialist sex scandal, Rowbotham rebranded as “Dr. Birley.” His lack of any doctoral degree was irrelevant. Rowbotham was about to plunge into a career that, to this day, rubs shoulders with the Flat Earth movement and other conspiracy scenes. He was about to become a huckster of miracle cures.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-the-father-of-flat-earthers-arose-from-a-nutty-commune

     

    Hey, "flat" Earthers. BEHOLD YOUR FATHER!!!

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    Flat-earthers are overconfident about their own scientific knowledge but exhibit low scientific literacy, study finds

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    A cognitive bias known as the Dunning-Kruger effect appears to be highly prevalent among people who believe the Earth is flat (flat-earthers), according to new research published in Public Understanding of Science. This means that flat-earthers tend to have lower levels of scientific literacy while also being more overconfident in their own scientific knowledge. In other words, they think they know a lot about science even though their actual knowledge is limited.

    “Both my co-authors and I are very interested in topics related to scientific culture,” said study author José Luis Arroyo Barrigüete, a professor at Comillas Pontifical University. “This is a line of research we have been working on for several years. In this regard, one of the most surprising beliefs we have encountered is that of flat-earth belief. The issue is that, contrary to what one might think, there are more people than would be reasonable with doubts about the shape of the earth.”

    “In fact, there are YouTubers who have cemented their activity by posting videos about flat earth theories. This fascinated us, and we decided to investigate it. It is often thought that a flat-earther is someone with a low level of scientific culture. This is true, but in our research, we observed that there is a second factor that is also necessary to believe in a flat earth: high overconfidence in one’s scientific knowledge.”

    “In other words, on average (and with all the exceptions that can surely be found), a flat-earther is someone who will have a low level of scientific culture but who nonetheless considers him/herself as someone with a high level of scientific knowledge.”

    To conduct their study, the researchers collected data through an online survey distributed in two waves. The first wave included undergraduate students at Comillas Pontifical University in Spain, while the second wave used a snowball procedure to include Spanish individuals from various backgrounds. The final sample consisted of 1,252 valid records, mainly comprising highly educated individuals with a high socioeconomic level.

    The dependent variable, “belief in a flat earth,” was measured on a scale of 0 to 10, with 0 indicating strong disagreement and 10 indicating strong agreement with the statement: “There is evidence that the earth is flat.” Science literacy was measured using the OSI 2.0 scale, which assessed basic scientific facts (e.g. “Electrons are smaller than atoms”) as well as the understanding scientific methods, quantitative reasoning, and cognitive reflection.

    Overconfidence was measured using two items: general overconfidence and overconfidence in scientific knowledge. To assess general overconfidence, participants were asked to rate their agreement with statements such as “My ideas are usually better than other people’s ideas” or “When I am really confident in a belief, there is very little chance that belief is wrong.” To assess overconfidence in science, participants were asked to consider scientific topics that interest them and indicate whether they believed they knew more or less than scientists in relation to those topics.

    The researchers found that among the participants, 1.3% indicated that they were fully convinced that the earth was flat, while 82.5% were fully convinced that the earth is not flat. These findings were surprising to some, as there was skepticism about finding individuals who believed in a flat earth, especially among highly educated individuals. But the percentage of flat earth believers in the sample was consistent with the results of a YouGov poll conducted in North America among millennials.

    “Most of the respondents were university students,” Arroyo-Barrigüete told PsyPost. “However, this is not relevant, as studies conducted in other countries and with other samples have found similar percentages of flat- earthers. This means that although it is a small percentage among the general population, there are people who either are not completely sure that the earth is round (an oblate spheroid more specifically) or are outright convinced that the earth is flat.”

    “Our colleagues at the university were surprised by the percentage of people who were not fully convinced that the earth was not flat,” Arroyo-Barrigüete said. “Although only 1.3% were fully convinced that the earth was flat, a much larger percentage expressed some doubt. In response to the question ‘There is evidence that the earth is flat. Indicate your opinion, 0 meaning strongly disagree, and 10 strongly agree,’ 17.5% of the sample gave a score above 0. Interestingly, a very similar percentage to that obtained in another study in 2018 among North American millennials.”

    The study also revealed that individuals who believed in a flat earth showed lower levels of science literacy compared to those who did not. This was evident across various dimensions of science literacy, including basic facts, understanding scientific methods, quantitative reasoning, and cognitive reflection. The differences in science literacy between flat earth believers and non-believers were statistically significant.

    Furthermore, the researchers found that flat earth believers exhibited higher levels of overconfidence in their scientific knowledge. Among flat earth believers, a significant portion (24.7%) claimed to know the same or more than scientists, while this percentage was much lower (2.2%) among those who believed the earth isn’t flat.

     

    https://www.psypost.org/flat-earthers-are-overconfident-about-their-own-scientific-knowledge-but-exhibit-low-scientific-literacy-study-finds/

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