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  1. Following Trump?  Wow ... in TRUE democratic fashion you've co-opted a word and given it a new meaning.


    A individual that forfits their right to choose in favor of inclusion in groupthink and what is viewed as popular or elete group. Allowing the influences of different forms of media and group members to hold great sway in the formation of attitudes, behavoir and opinion.
    To accept the group mentaility and opinion as
    fact without examination.
    Not only to be told what to do, but accepting the paradigm of thought as absolute thereby removing the weight of personal responsibility in the making of decisions.
    In 2003 American President Bush states that the need to invade Iraq is imperative because it it was a supporter of islamic terrorism and developer of Weapons of Mass Destruction that would threaten the United States.

    Although no evidence was given in support of such statements the american sheeple supported the war despite evidence to the contrary.
    The sheeple are those that are asleep at the switch; who have been controlled by the Lame stream media and can't think for themselves - who therefor spew their vitriol and garbage without regard for whether it is true or not!!!  The Russians hacked the election?  Sure they did - despite the fact that numerous security experts have shown that the DNC was NOT hacked and the stolen emails were copied off the server.  The CIA has been manipulating the media and what the sheeple think for years ...
    Your flawed assumption is that Trump followers are sheeple - when in fact Trump supporters are more cognizant (awake) of the happenings around them and the corruption within government than the normal sheeple who think the world is all rainbows and unicorns (except for their President) thanks to what the CIA operated Media has been feeding them for years!!!
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  2. On 8/25/2017 at 4:22 PM, bostonangler said:


    Yup I think Trump is a fraud... But you and most everyone else seems to think I support system" rel="">support Clinton. I have made it clear on countless occasions I didn't vote her and do not support system" rel="">support her. I have said many times, I vote the person not the party. If more people would let go how the heard mentality, we would all be better off. I know people on both sides who would vote for Hitler if he was their party's candidate. Personally I don't subscribe to the sheeple point of view. That means if someone is good or bad I can state my opinion without worrying what my friends will say. You should try it sometime it is rather liberating.



    You seem to be a very media-guided sheeple yourself, as your talking points parallel the media's view that Trump is bad for America and needs to be removed from office!!!


    As for me having that liberating feeling one gets for thinking for themselves - you obviously haven't read anything I've posted as I DON'T post the sheeple's point of view!! 

    It's good that you can state an opinion without worrying what your friends will say - too bad you have this knee-jerk reaction to anyone here commenting on your posts though!!

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  3. Legal Procedure?


    Are you kidding me? :blink:

    Arpaio was charged under Obummer's justice department for doing what was within the framework of the law - deporting illegal immigrants.  But to avoid allowing him a fair trial - they charged him under a different statute, didn't allow a jury trial and the judge and justice department colluded to railroad him into prison!!!


    A pardon is the least that Trump could have done - once he learned of it!!  That's right ... his Obummer holdovers are doing everything they can to limit what the President finds out.

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  4. If you actually believe The Donald is mentally unfit, you need to have your head examined.


    Ever hear of the Goldwater Rule?



    The Goldwater Rule: Why breaking it is Unethical and Irresponsible


    Every four years, the United States goes through a protracted elections process for the highest office in the land. This year, the election seems like anything but a normal contest, that has at times devolved into outright vitriol. The unique atmosphere of this year’s election cycle may lead some to want to psychoanalyze the candidates, but to do so would not only be unethical, it would be irresponsible.

    Simply put, breaking the Goldwater Rule is irresponsible, potentially stigmatizing, and definitely unethical.

    Maria A. Oquendo, M.D.

    Since 1973, the American Psychiatric Association and its members have abided by a principle commonly known as “the Goldwater Rule,” which prohibits psychiatrists from offering opinions on someone they have not personally evaluated. The rule is so named because of its association with an incident that took place during the 1964 presidential election. During that election, Fact magazine published a survey in which they queried some 12,356 psychiatrists on whether candidate Sen. Barry Goldwater, the GOP nominee, was psychologically fit to be president. A total of 2,417 of those queried responded, with 1,189 saying that Goldwater was unfit to assume the presidency.

    While there was no formal policy in place at the time that survey was published, the ethical implications of the Goldwater survey, in which some responding doctors even issued specific diagnoses without ever having examined him personally, became immediately clear. This large, very public ethical misstep by a significant number of psychiatrists violated the spirit of the ethical code that we live by as physicians, and could very well have eroded public confidence in psychiatry.

    We live in an age where information on a given individual is easier to access and more abundant than ever before, particularly if that person happens to be a public figure. With that in mind, I can understand the desire to get inside the mind of a Presidential candidate. I can also understand how a patient might feel if they saw their doctor offering an uninformed medical opinion on someone they have never examined. A patient who sees that might lose confidence in their doctor, and would likely feel stigmatized by language painting a candidate with a mental disorder (real or perceived) as “unfit” or “unworthy” to assume the Presidency.

    Simply put, breaking the Goldwater Rule is irresponsible, potentially stigmatizing, and definitely unethical.

    The Goldwater Rule is published as an annotation in the Principles of Medical Ethics with Annotations Especially Applicable to Psychiatry. I encourage you all to read the full text of the rule below, and keep it in mind during this election cycle, and other events of similarly intense public interest.

    The “Goldwater Rule:”

    On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.”

    Principles of Medical Ethics with Annotations Especially Applicable to Psychiatry




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  5. I'm upset?  Really?  From the loon who told me to keep my opinions on American politics to myself?


    Okay B/A ... I'll stop hurting your feelings because after all, I'm NOT an American, ergo I couldn't vote for Trump - so, with all due respect, I didn't vote for a con-man.  Just as the millions who actually DID vote for him, didn't vote for a con-man either!!!

    They voted for a chance to change America!!  To take its future out of the hands of globalists and back into the hands of her people!!!


    Your constant attack on the man could be considered proof you prefer the status quo of globalism and corrupt government!!!

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  6. On 8/24/2017 at 11:03 AM, bostonangler said:


    Because you can dish out, but you can't take it... All you do is whine like a spoiled little progressive teenager that I see running amuck in all those fake news videos. Get over yourself.



    What can't I take?  How am I whining?


    Typical liberal response - divert attention away from the issue by accusing your opponent of having all your worst traits!!!

    You're the one acting like one of the little triggered progressives screaming expletives and accusing everyone they disagree with of being white racists!!!

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  7. who's lying now?


    Let's see - who is


    Self described as a "Site for citizen investigations of current events using open source information". Begun by Eliot Higgins and "8 volunteers" and allegedly funded by a Kickstarter campaign.
    Started: 2014
    Founder: Eliot Higgins

    In its own words:
    "By and for citizen investigative journalists..."

    Bellingcat is an amateur run, supposedly independent, source of image analyses on controversial images. Its operator, Eliot Higgins has been praised by The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Guardian. However, Robert Parry termed Bellingcat's analysis of satellite photos related to the shoot-down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 an "amateurish [and] anti-Russian... fraud".[1] Another commentator claimed that Higgins "has constantly been a source of dis/misinformation on Syria and Ukraine."[2]


    Background of founder

    In Oct 2012, Eliot Higgins was laid off from his job as an administrator at a nonprofit organisation which provided housing for asylum seekers. In Aug 2013, he noticed Twitter reports of a possible chemical-weapons attack in Ghouta, a suburb of Damascus.[citation needed] In Nov 2013, Eliot Higgins "confirmed" that Syria had used chemical weapons[3], without noticing that it was not the Syrian government that carried out the attacks[4].


    On 15 Jul 2014, Eliot Higgins started Bellingcat for citizen journalism to investigate current events using open source information such as videos, maps and pictures. It was funded by a KickStarter campaign (£50,891 at 13 Sep 2014 from 1,701 contributions)[5]. The Kickstarter funding model is based on a cash-for gifts/favours model: backers "get to choose from a variety of unique rewards offered by the project creator. Rewards vary from project to project ..."[6]

    Also of possible note: Kickstarter "Projects can’t mislead people or misrepresent facts, and creators should be candid about what they plan to accomplish"[7]. From the project home page: " will unite citizen investigative journalists to use open source information to report on issues that are being ignored . . . Bellingcat will be an extension of Eliot’s work on the Brown Moses blog. ."[8]

    Until the creation of Bellingcat, the Brown Moses blog had not been concerned with events in Ukraine.[9] Another difference is that whereas the Brown Moses blog was non-commercial, Bellingcat is now obviously a commercial venture.

    Wikispooks comment

    Higgins had stumbled into a potentially profitable (in terms of media exposure and possibly pledged funding) publishing venture. If it clearly wasn't primed to be a mega-publishing opportunity, it nonetheless held the promise of some tempting liaisons with the Spooks for one so young. And so it has turned out, with Higgins very well knowing the expectations of those whose support he depends on. His output has been nothing if not consistent, viz: Consistent with what one would expect from promoters of the Anglo-US-NATO Official Narratives of geo-politics and the War on Terror, but done in a slipshod and blatantly partisan fashion that those who quote him (the Commercially-controlled media) are wary of claiming their own; which is to say in a way which is quotable but can not be made attributable to those who ultimately control the narrative - ie the Spooks.

    The Syrian observatory of Human rights serves an analogous purpose.


    OR ...


    Eliot Higgins of Bellingcat, Who is He? Everything You Need to Know…

    This is part of the series, Who’s Who in Ukraine Propaganda (#3) 

    Graham Phillips

    In 2016, I’ll be returning to my country of the UK, and there’s a man I’d certainly like to meet for an interview. While I was working on the scene from the war in Eliot Higgins 2Donbass, Eliot Higgins, of Bellingcat, was the man sitting on a sofa taking, and manipulating, YouTube videos (including my own) of Donbass, MH17, Syria, using them to disseminate misinformation, lies, to the world.

    However, he’s unlikely ever to agree to an interview with me, because, you see, Higgins, from the UK, born 1979, avoids sources who may raise uncomfortable questions much like critics have accused his work of avoiding basis in science, or fact (see below for more on that).

    So, who exactly is Eliot Higgins? The man western media fawn over to the extent you may think it’s Eliot’s own mum writing the press, with headlines like ‘Putin’s Fullscreen capture 28022016 123353.bmpMH17 Nemesis‘ and ‘One-Man Intelligence Unit‘ (and that, enthusiastically promoted by the UK government in Ukraine, and not only them – US, Estonian government sources and more, open fans of his work).

    Well, this is how a standard Eliot Higgins piece, and they are manifold, begins, in the western press – As rockets fell in Syria Eliot Higgins was asleep at his house 2,300 miles away, in Leicester. He woke a few hours later, roused his toddler daughter, Ela, and padded downstairs to make her porridge.’

    That from the Telegraph, March 29th, 2014. Higgins affectionately portrayed as a kind of Winnie the Pooh meets a Beautiful Mind as he goes on to crack the enigma which had eluded the world etc etc.

    Here, the Independent from January 18th, 2015 – 

    Eliot Higgins 1‘Any of us can pause a YouTube video or find an old friend on Facebook. But only one man has used these simple online tools to expose the world’s darkest secrets. No wonder everyone from the police to Google wants a piece of the blogger from Leicester.’

    Newsweek –  from June 2015 – 

    ‘Sipping a can of beer and devouring french fries in a Brussels hotel room, Eliot Higgins doesn’t look like the type to get involved in armed conflicts. The Englishman has a baby face, slumped shoulders and a soft Midlands accent. But over the past three years, the 36-year-old former administrator and obsessive gamer has spent hundreds of hours scouring the Internet to find out the truth about faraway wars – from the use of chemical weapons in Syria to Russian troops invading Ukraine – all from the comfort of his couch.’

    But what if it’s not really like that, at all?

    What if the ‘Founder of Bellingcat. Visiting research associate at King’s College London. Nonresident Senior Fellow – New Information Frontiers @AtlanticCouncil.‘ (his own Twitter description), isn’t really that?

    Chauncey GardinerWhat if Eliot Higgins is, at best, a latter day Chauncey Gardiner , (pictured, the Peter Sellers character  from film ‘Being There’ who rose to success on the back of mental limitations mistaken for genius)? Or what if it’s even worse – what if Higgins is actually a liar, a faker, a fraud?

    Let’s have a look at a 10 Higgins bullet-points –

    Higgins is from Leicester in the UK, born in 1979, He never finished college, dropping out of the Southampton Institute of Higher Education. When asked for interview what he studied at university, his answer was , “Media . . . I think.”

    He once worked as payments officer at a women’s underwear company. (“I’m more interested in lingerie than asylum seekers,”)In 2012, the hardcore online gamer (a World of Warcraft addict), Higgins was laid off from his job as an administrator at a non-profit providing housing for asylum seekers, turns to blogging, under the pseudonym ‘Brown Moses‘, from a Frank Zappa track.

    Сredited, by some, with uncovering chemical weapons in Syria in 2013. Whether he actually did this, is the subject of debate (what he is documented as doing is agreeing to suppress information that the rebels had chemical weapons, Eliot Higgins Bellingcatand were behind chemical weapon attacks on Aleppo which had killed civilians). In any case, Higgins’ chemical weapons revelations were enthusiastically disseminated across western media, the US, UN, glowingly endorsed by western governments, but comprehensively debunked by Theodore Postol, a professor in the Science, Technology, and Global Security Working Group at MIT –

    It’s clear and unambiguous this munition could not have come from Syrian government-controlled areas as the White House claimed.”

    While the western media fell in love with tale of the ‘expert who exposed Syrian chemical weapons from his bedroom‘, other, real, experts (and Higgins has always been completely open about his lack of expertise) were less convinced. Higgins, Postol said,has done a very nice job collecting information on a website. As far as his analysis, it’s so lacking any analytical foundation it’s clear he has no idea what he’s talking about.”

    In January 2015, Bellingcat published a report into events in Mariupol, Ukraine, May 9th, 2014, when Ukrainian forces entered the city, opening fire, resulting in a death count given by Ukrainian sources as over 20, but by some sources as high as 100. Bellingcat took the figure down to 13. Despite video of Ukrainian forces opening fire on unarmed civilians, Bellingcat entirely exonerated them, described them as ‘acting with restraint’.

    This exoneration of the actions of Ukrainian forces, and others of its kind, has allowed Eliot Higgins MH17western governments to continue their unconditional support for Ukraine, in the war in Donbass, without question.

    Through 2015, Higgins’ Bellingcat rises to become one of the key agents in the MH17 investigation, with Higgins himself frequently trumpeting his appearances across the world’s media. This is despite Bellingcat’s frequently being caught out in fabrications – those MH17 videos which formed the bedrock of Bellingcat’s claims, comprehensively debunked here. Then there was the humiliation of Der Spiegel, one of Europe’s largest publications … issuing an apology for using Bellingcat’s work as a reliable source.  German image forensics expert Jens Kriese tore Bellingcat apart here –

    ‘From the perspective of forensics, the Bellingcat approach is not very robust. The core of what they are doing is based on so-called Error Level Analysis (ELA). The Bellingcatmethod is subjective and not based entirely on science. This is why there is not a single scientific paper that addresses it. Contrary to what Bellingcat claims, Error Level Analysis does not provide clear results.

    The conclusion is always based on the perspective of humans, on their interpretation.’This, along with stringent criticism from a range of sources – from the ‘Off-Guardian‘ site -‘Even casual conversation with him reveals the embarrassing truth that his “research”, so lauded in the popular media, consists of entry-level computer skills and an awful lot of smoke-blowing. You or I or literally anyone over the age of seven with internet access could do it. If we thought it was worth while.’

    The criticism hasn’t just been limited to text, this German satirical programme did a quite unerring take-off of Higgins –

    Higgins is actually becoming rather an internet joke –

    These have done the rounds –

    Eliot Higgins internet joke Eliot Higgins

    And just have a look on Twitter with the search #Bellingcrap

    Higgins either vehemently hates, or has been told to hate Russia, and Russia’s president Putin. Have a look at his Twitter timeline, of some 127,000 tweets, and it can read at times like one man trolling an entire country. A stream, a barrage, of anti-Russian tweets, retweets, and Higgins doesn’t even try to hide that he despises Russia, or has been told to – this just from a quick ‘Russia‘ search of his recent tweets, and just a small sampling –Screen CapturesWith this taken into account, what conclusion was Higgins’ Bellingcat ever going to come to, apart from that it was Russia, indeed Putin himself, responsible for the tragic downing of MH17? And for the ‘expert’ on Donbass, Higgins has made his feelings similarly clear –Fullscreen capture 28022016 163501.bmp

    Higgins hates RT now, never missing a chance to tear into them. Typical tweet –Fullscreen capture 28022016 145812.bmpBut, he used to be proud of their endorsement – this, from 2013 – a list of media he was happy to advertise his connection to.Screen Captures1So what happened there? I’ve worked for RT, and will say this with all due respect, they are quite modest in the payment they offer. It’s not hard to find channels, and outlets, who pay a lot more.

    In the early, Brown Moses, days, Higgins used to make frequent appeals for finances, with support links prominently displayed. However, the current Bellingcat site doesn’t even appear to have a ‘donate’ / ‘support’ option. And Fullscreen capture 28022016 154321.bmpBellingcat has grown to an operation which lists itself as being run by ‘eight volunteers’ but is clearly far in excess of that – a professional website which is updated sometimes with several articles a day, on which extensive research has been expended. But when it’s Bellingcat, all the evidence shows that the research is done to back up a conclusion already arrived at, rather than arrive at a conclusion based on research.

    Higgins now works not from home, but from an office, in his hometown of Leicester. So where’s the money coming from for Bellingcat, clearly now an operation requiring considerable financial support?That’s unclear, Higgins has yet to publish any record of where the finance comes from, all the ‘About‘ section of the Bellingcat site says is -‘Bellingcat uses open source and social media investigation to investigate a variety of subjects, from Mexican drug lords to conflicts being fought across the world. Bellingcat brings together contributors who specialise in open source and social media investigation, and creates guides and case studies so others may learn to do the same.’

    For a lot of people, it’s highly convenient that Eliot Higgins is an ‘expert’, and his agency Bellingcat taken seriously. This is a man who, with his agency Bellingcat, will absolutely always back the position of western governments, and powerful western organisations. And they’ll do whatever it takes to make sure Eliot Higgins expert 1he’s taken seriously, lay on all the the trappings, auspices of highbrow, on trend terms like ‘open source investigation’ and ‘error level analysis‘, be sure he’s given awards, plaudits, made a ‘fellow’, ‘expert’, at sympathetic organisations, appears at the right seminars, conferences, everything to apply the sheen of credibility.

    When it comes to defending himself from criticism, Eliot is adept at deflecting criticism of himself onto the seemingly ‘too cool to criticise ‘open source investigation’, of which he is a leading practitioner. These tweets, from today, in response to his being told this article would be coming out –

    Fullscreen capture 28022016 144044.bmpFullscreen capture 28022016 144338.bmp

    Yet, what if behind the new, buzz ‘open source’ investigation of Higgins lies just plain old falsification?

    This recent, absolutely comprehensive, article makes the point, one yet to have penetrated the public perception of ‘open source Fullscreen capture 28022016 152434.bmp
    investigation’, that all this new jazz can be used as the respectable front for one of the oldest scams, falsification – see this tweet on the theme.

    Creating social media accounts to post misinformation, free of all the source checks, verification of other sources as this is ‘citizen journalism’ and all things cool, which can’t be questioned because a lot of people don’t really know what they are. This, then passed off, and on, into Bellingcat, and up it goes higher into the food chain of mass media, unquestioned, unchecked.

    So you can see why a lot of people really have an interest in making Eliot Higgins out to be an authority, a Fullscreen capture 28022016 153608.bmpreputed source, an expert. Have a look at his profile on the Atlantic Council site, an agency funded by governments across the world (25, no less), to promote their position under the guise of being a ‘think tank’. Higgins now works with them, and they call him ‘

    Eliot Higgins – Nonresident Senior Fellow, New Information Frontiers, Future Europe Initiative, Expertise Topics, Digital Forensic Research and Open Source Intelligence.’

    There’s a real convenience about Higgins. He’s positioned himself as one of the foremost exponents of the still-being-defined ‘open source’. Higgins himself has shaped and defined what we currently know as ‘open source investigation’. And he’s made one of the tenets of it never, ever, needing to go to the place in question.

    Eliot Higgins expert

    Higgins has never been near the MH17 site, Syria, or anywhere else on where he’s an apparent ‘expert’. Higgins may not go to any of the places he ‘investigates’, but he does travel the world being an ‘expert’ at various conferences, receiving awards – all of these used (and used by Higgins himself, who doesn’t shy from self-promotion , making extensive mention on Twitter of his own participation at conferences, using a photo from such for his profile) to propagate ‘Higgins, the expert.

    It’s very handy for some people, having a guy who doesn’t need to be sent anywhere, who, from his sofa, can quickly come up with the conclusions so beloved of western press, and governments. He’s also clearly a hard worker, dogmatic, persistent, the man who used to spend endless hours gaming now happy to spend that time on Bellingcat ‘investigations’. Higgins took part in the official  MH17 investigation, and even boasted about knowing the result of the MH17 report before it was released – so sure was he, he even challenged me to a bet over it (I declined).

    So, make your own mind up.

    Who is Eliot Higgins, and Bellingcat, really? Are they indeed the experts the western media would have us believe? Or are we

    Eliot Higgins Bellingcrapbeing stitched up by a man either of limited abilities plunged into the limelight, making the most of all that goes with it – fawning western media write ‘He often doesn’t finish sentences, as if his mind is racing elsewhere‘ – but could it be, that Higgins is actually rather simply rather a dim man, being used, and fine with that, by higher powers?

    Or is Higgins actually an intelligent calculating individual, who has exploited the opportunity to make a name for himself, make a lot of money? One thing about Higgins is sure. He’s a liar. A conman. A charlatan. And whatever associations the name ‘Higgins’ and ‘Bellingcat’ have now, the future can surely only be these names associated with fabrication, fraud, a scam. All that will be debated, is whether Higgins is a latter-day Donald Crowhurst, a hapless man forced into a web of deceit, or a Bernie Madoff, who knew just what he was doing all along.

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  8. 1 hour ago, bostonangler said:


    Boy that was hard I googled Trumps achievements... Maybe you misspelled achievements...


    Divert away ...


    The point you so blatantly failed to reply to was how Google is openly trying to undermine people's right to free speech !!!


    And it's not hard to be condescending ... you just choose to be a pompous ass whenever your narrative gets trashed!!!

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  9. 19 hours ago, bostonangler said:


    Really, I don't see it.. I see where Senator Bob Corker called him incompetent. Oh and no mention, my bad I forgot you people need links to these articles to help you find your way. I keep forgetting you are all used to being led by the nose... Here you go... Maybe they don't have google in Canada, I don't know.


    And if reading is too difficult you can watch him actually say it.. Video may help you comprehend. Just click the little triangle in the middle of the screen.






    You didn't quote Bob Corker in your post - You posted as if it was your own thoughts  (I know it's very similar to your own feelings and thoughts, so why not just make them your own).


    But the problem is - you like to use other people's words and pretend they are your own - then when you get called out on them - you flip flop around like a fish out of water and blame someone else!!!  Or divert to your holier-than-thou mental superiority attitude and really let your true colours be shown!!!


    As for google - why would I want to use a search engine that limits any search results to weed out Trump's triumphs and highlight his flaws?  I stopped using google for real news during the past election cycle when all the tech companies controlling the minion's thoughts were doing everything in their power to give Hitlery her throne!!!

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  10. On 2017-08-19 at 0:35 PM, bostonangler said:


    Reading and comprehension.... I said it "seems" I didn't say you were... Big difference...


    While Trump voter/supporters defend his incompetence, the rest of humanity sees what is real. You now have the most conservative members of his party calling him out. I'm not talking about moderates, or people on the left, I'm talking about true conservatives.


    I understand people backed him because in their hearts they believed what he was saying, but we now know he lied. In his conversation with the Mexican president, he basically laughed at his lie about the wall. One of the biggest things to sway voters, and he calls it "fodder". "The least important of things he cares about". Now I ask, did that not bother you? Did you enjoy reading his words, that one of his biggest stumping points was meaningless, only something to get elected? We expect that from politicians, but he was supposed to be different. Like I've said, every failed leader, band, artist, teacher, general or whatever, will always have those who defend them to the end. Look at Hitler, we know the evil he was, and yet in the end he still has supporters. They tell you he did great things along with the bad.. Trump will always have some leftover supporters, but it is plain to see he is losing ground very quickly. He now has the lowest numbers in 6 months compared to any president in modern history. Oh I know, now comments will come that numbers don't matter, but across time, they are usually pretty close. Soon you will be arguing with your friends and family the way you do with me, because they will tell you it is over and you will refuse to admit it. It's okay, you aren't the first to be fooled. Many were fooled by Nixon, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama and now Trump. We all want to believe they mean what they say, but the reality is they say whatever they need to get elected.




    On 2017-08-20 at 10:20 AM, bostonangler said:


    Are you people really that confused??? I didn't say he was incompetent, Senator Bob Corker, one of America's most conservative republicans said it... Geez, no wonder you people believe all the dribble coming out of the administration... I swear you can read but not comprehend... Again




    It must suck living in your blurred and confused world.




    It sure looks like you called him incompetent ... NO mention of that being a quote from anybody!!!!

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  11. 1 hour ago, bostonangler said:


    Yes you would have the legal right, but does that make it right? Do you want to show up on the news as a nut-job hurting people like the crazies you hate so much? All I'm saying is if someone wants a reaction and gets one they win. Even if you kill them, they win, because you make them a martyr and that's what they want... Look at David Duke. I know Trump does not support system" rel="">support him in any way, but now he is relevant again... That's all any of these people want is recognition.


    I know it is rare, but I do agree with Trump when he said there are bad people on both sides. No one would stand up and say The KKK, Nazis or other white supremacist are right for their beliefs, but I agree, the some of protesters on the left, who were their to stand against hate were just as bad as the people they were their to protest against.


    I know there has been a lot of talk about a giant conspiracy from Soros to make this happen, but I know people in my town who are Nazi lovers, and members of The KKK and they came back proudly talking about the rally and how well they did... These are sick people and we don't need to make them famous.



    The more you post - the more you come off as a leftie loon planted on this forum to foster the lies of the lame stream media!!!


    Soros IS openly supporting the take down of America and free speech!  Ain't NO CONSPIRACY about it.  Whether or not the group of KKK protestors were in fact KKK members remains to be seen.

    I'm guessing this is a CIA / FBI op meant to be the start of the shutdown of free speech and open demonstrations in America.


    Look at this picture - the flags and shirts still have their right-out-of-the-box pleats ...



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  12. 22 minutes ago, bostonangler said:


    Maniac... No doubt. And as I said, at the charity event I was involved with, security was our responsibility. As for this one I have no idea.



    You mean the police that were told by the Democrat governor and mayor to stand down while funneling the two groups together like leading lambs to the slaughter all for the sake of the media's anti-Trump agenda!!!


    The real question is - what caused the crash that killed the two policemen in the helicopter?  Couldn't have any airborne eyewitnesses to the real events on the ground I guess.

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