asiegel674

Dear Mr. Montana I just wanted to take a moment of your day to say how wonderful it is to see you finally getting back in the swing of things here at DV and participating on the forum. It is a bit shocking though that to finally get you to post on a regular basis it had to come because of what seem to me is a personal vendetta against one of the few members here who actually added real value, who gave real information, and did not participate in the whole guru game of “rate and date” that is so rampant at other sites. As I have sat back and watched this unfold I can see the reasons why perhaps you may be intimidated by Scooter, seeing as he is not only a successful business owner but also very astute at getting to the heart of the matter and finding the details that get missed by most. Of course, with Scooter around, you didn’t really have to do much now did you in the way of posting real information, you were free to work on your post RV ventures, setting up you post RV investments like your hedge fund you are hoping to start and handling the off shoring of your VIP member’s funds down in Belize. Hedge fund post RV….who else is starting a hedge fund post RV….oh yeah, Rudy is…you wouldn’t want to have to fight for those funds now would you, and if Scooter is somehow perceived as saying Rudy is ok that may mean you lose out on some post RV investment $$$....now let’s move on…. So is this discrediting of Scooter also in part because you fear that he may leave and somehow start his own site? He is not by the way; the man truly has retired from the Dinar information game and will not be coming back. Seems this has happened to you before hasn’t it Adam, first Frank left, then SteveI and Dan, Rudy left as well with the another site, each time taking members away from your site, you losing you edge and your precious VIPs. If Scooter, the one person who has a loyal following based on facts not hype were to ever start a site, man that would be the end of DV wouldn’t it? So did you look at the numbers and see your VIP membership dropping and realized you could not risk that happening? Is the reason for the attacks? Or is it that Scooter had no interest in any offers to be only here at DV that perhaps you offered him money or some incentive to only share his information here at your site and he turned you down. Now why would he turn you down AM, well its simple, the man NEVER wanted money, his main goal, his only goal was to educate people about this investment and to share his knowledge. So now you want to continue to take shots after he would not play by your rules, he would not bow down and kiss your ring? Its ok Adam, I guess I would be jealous too if suddenly someone who I deemed a lesser individual was getting thread after thread, response after response thanking him for his effort and it started to look like I was the bad guy. Go ahead, you can drag his name through the mud, just remember, we all have skeletons in our closet, and if you continue down this road you are opening yourself up to be put under the microscope. Mr. Montana, I am sure as I am breathing that something is not right here at this site with the way this all went down. I am sure many others feel the same way. What your motives are is beyond me, and to be honest I really don’t care. I just hope you know that you can try to pull the wool over the eyes of this membership, and at the end of the day you do own the site, but karma is a fickle beast, and I am sure this slanderous attack will come back to haunt you. At no time have you provided any facts that tie Scooter to Rudy in the forms of compensation. AT no time have you proven that Scooter did Rudy’s calls for any reason other than he likes to keep people informed of his latest research. Scooter does another site’s chats and radio, he does Phoenix’s chats and radio, yet you have no issue with them? Why? At no time have you provided facts of any sort on many topics. Maybe some will follow blindly, and maybe they will be the ones who look to you for guidance post RV, I will not be one of them. If we want to make blind accusations why don’t we examine the odd timing of Sonny1’s return to the site after being gone for several months? Why don’t we ask the hard questions about how people who just join the site suddenly have some much knowledge about the inner workings of the dinar game and who the players are? In closing Mr. Montana, I am not a fool, and I think you believe that most on this site are. Why don’t you just come clean with your motives, as this issue was dead and buried 24 hours ago yet you chose to re-open it with your cute little poll. You want to play, let’s play; lets peel back the curtains and see who the real fraud is Go ahead and ban me if you so desire, it will just show you are truly not one to take on someone who is willing to stand up to you and fight back when an injustice has occurred Asiegel674

Well, I cant disagree with your logic, I can say that if it did RV this week, what would you have to post about? Of course you would never post again, you would cash out and hopefully like myself never ever see the inside of a forum or chatroom again. Its much easier to say it wont happen then to look at the news and track the real progress and see what is happening. This week will tell us alot, UNSC meeting we will see where Iraq is in regards to the process. I also believe that many articles are mis-interpretted and that the news is censored coming out of Iraq as well. I still believe in this investment, but being that guy who always says "I told you everyone else is wrong, Ha-ha" does not really serve much of a purpose

Dont worry everyone, Adam Montana will save the day, just sign up for VIP and then you can cash out in Belize and avoid taxes, just FedEx all your Dinar to Adam's PO Box IN Belize...if he doesnt meet you at the airport, dont panic, I am sure he will be waiting for you at Choice Bank.... As for Slade, why do you guys stop to his level, or any of the other obvious trolls who lurk here...the guy has over 1000 posts in just over 7 months, averages about 5 posts a day, and none of them are positive. He is obviously someone who enjoys or better yet needs conflict in his life in order to function, let hm be, put him on ignore, and he will slowly fade away. Phoenix, you are agood man, I may not agree with all you have to say, but I do think you have a good grasp of this investment. Not sure what has prompted you to come back here, but clearly you are wasting your time and effort. Keep doing your radio show, get your information out through that channel, because lowering yourself here is a waste of your time. Asiegel674

NIcely put HT, bee a long tme since I have seen you, but I guess when one of our own is attacked in the manner that we have seen recently it cause us to have to step back in to the spotlight. Its funny how this all went down and I think you make some very valid points. How is it that someone who registered for this sitre a mere four weeks ago suddenly has the knowledge that not only Rudy is a fraud, but als the wherewithall to begin to attach argueably the most stand-up and fact based resource we have not only on this site, but in all of the dinar world. Dont know but I think your theory of a plant is well made, and perhaps we have seen Chuckst3r in some other form on this board before? Who knows, who cares, because in the end, Chuckst3r is a pawn and I think we both can see that and hopefully other do as well. No, the real issue is the systematic attacks that have been going on against Scooter for the past few weeks, first it was Taboo, then Chuckst3r, and then to top it off Adam Montana. I think its quite funny that AM who rarely posts on the boards, rarely posts any articles or reserach, finds the time suddenly to chime in on the topic of Scooter and his participation on a CC with Rudy. Strange timing indeed, as this is not the first time Scooter has done a BH call, he frequents other sites and chats, but yet suddenly AM has an issue with this? Hmmm odd timing that it happened yet a few days after Sonny1, who left this site a few months ago suddenly comes back in the picture, that just doesnt pass the smell test. Then today, Adam Montana starts to close threads, seems he doesnt like the attention that Scooter is getting, nor the backlash that he is receiving. Seem even some of his own mods are starting to question his actions....chinks in the armor, you bet. Can you believe that AM accused Scooter of taking money from other sites to do their shows...Really? Anyone who knows Scooter will quickly tell you he does his research to educate. If he was out to make money he would have started a site of his own like other who left here have and trust me when I tell you thousands would have followed, why? because the man gives you real information, not hype and bullcrap. So I lime you HT, would love to know the real reasons the attacks started, why is it that AM felt threatened all of a sudden. Is it simply that his goose who laid the golden eggs was now sharing with other sites? Seems to me this all comes down to greed, and if Scooter was educating people and perhaps causing them to not sign up for the additional services offered here, then perhaps he was no longer of use, or worse, because someone who could expose the wizzard behind the curtain. I too would love to see some answers rather than some accusations from AM, Chuckst3r, Taboo, or the many others who felt they needed to bash on the Scooter train. Lets see what becomes of this. Most likely we will be banned or warned, if I do get banned so be it, this site has been in a downward spiral for awhile now Good to see you HT, you are one of the good guys Asiegel674

Lawdog, While you heart is in the right place, the effort si somewhat wasted. As many have seen, this site has changed dramatically in the last year, it has evolved into something that is but a mere shell of what it was.I believe that the reason you saw what you saw from Adam Montana is simple, since Scooter has decided to share his insights with other people like DD, Phoenix and even Rudy, then Scooter is no longer a draw to this site for many people, and therefore his use to AM is not as great as it once was. INstead of an asset he is viewed as a liability. There is much weirdness in the dinar world lately. People who have left are coming back, people who are new suddnely have massive amounts of insights and feel they have the right to question in an accusatory tone. Adam Montana has Scooters email and phone number, if he truely was concerned about his association with Rudy, he could have resolved it quite simply, but instead he did it in a public forum and in a manner that many deem as unprofessional. Thats ok, Adam will still have his loyal following that will folllow him to Belize, sign up for his VIP and fall for anything else he wishes to lay on them, but just look at the numbers, it used to be that the chat room averaged 300 people a night, now it is about 100 on a good night. The site has become stale, not because it chooses to ignore the hype and pumping of other sites like PTR and GET, but more because there is an overall negative tone that permeates through the forums like a cancer. While some may think Scooter needed to "justify" his actions, he did not, and anyone who knows the man knows that his only goal was to help eductate, and if by going on a show like Phoenix or participating on a call with Rudy, if he could educate one person and get them to see this investment for the facts rather than the hype then he did his job. I know you enjoy Scooter, and i know you consider him a friend Lawdog, believe this, Scooter knows who his friends are, and who he can trust...you sir are one of them. Asiegel674

Dear Chuckst3r It takes a lot to get me to post these days, I had my fill of the boards and the chats back 12 months ago and sort of gave up on them just after Jan 1st rolled around. At that point I saw progress being made and figured we would see the fruits of this investment pay off sometime in the near future, could be a few weeks, could be a few months, but certainly before the year 2012. While I may have put the dinar in the drawer for the time being I still kept up on the news, always up for a juicy rumor even if it’s just for a laugh, always want to see who the latest Guru is and how quickly the fade, it’s a nice little distraction this Dinar World we play in. To me, one of the best things about this investment is the people I have met, both on the boards and in the chats. To be very honest with you, it’s a cast of characters but they are for the most part a great bunch of people and some who have truly become friends. One of those people who have become a close friend is someone you seem to also have taken a shine to, my friend Scooter. When I first started on DV, I was in amazed (and quite skeptical) at the rock star status that was given this man. Literally when he came into chat the room stopped so he could speak. When he posted, the responses were all praising the hard work he put in. It was not until one night in chat, it was a bit quiet, I was able to engage the man one-on-one. What I found was someone who was highly intelligent, someone who was not about hype, and someone who not only did his research, but was open to others opinions. We chatted and I started to understand his goals in participating in this venture. He wants to educate the people involved, he truly wants to get people to think for themselves rather than follow. He will be the first to tell you that his research is not the end all of the discussion, but it is the springboard that hopefully brings new ideas and research from other people to the table. Ok, now that the background is out of the way, I would like to ask, why do you have such an attacking style towards the man? If you do not agree with his research, make your counter points, post articles, come up with your own Trifecta theory and post it. If you don’t like the fact that Scooter has been nice enough to do some guest appearances on people’s chats, calls etc, well, not sure what to tell you other than the fact that Scooter is just too dang nice to say “No” to people. I will give you this, Rudy is most likely not the person I will be investing with Post RV, but then again, I can say that about most of the so-called Gurus who have a hidden agenda post RV. Let’s be honest, when this thing pops you will have a lot of people with more money in their pockets then they ever dreamed of, whether you own one $25k note or you own $25MM dinar. The flip side is most of those people will be looking to invest that money, and who better to invest it with then someone you have come to rely on for information and who has never seemed to guide you wrong. Please, don’t put Scooter in that category. The man has never given dates and rates. Does he say that there are windows of opportunity, milestones, does he look at what budgets say for potential rates, YES, does he say it’s happening tomorrow and the button has been pushed, NO, never has, never will. Now Chuck, back to you, let’s see, you joined this site at the end of May, haven’t made that many posts, sees that really you just have it out for Scooter. Either that or you are someone who has been banned from DV before and is now just coming back in some other form, yeah that happens a lot. Seems your issue is quite personal with Scooter, as I don’t see you posting anything about Okie, Blaino, The PTR or PD guys, or any of the other dozens of so called gurus out there. Instead you pick the one person who has done some real good not just for this site, but for the dinar world in general. Seem a bit suspect to me, but hey, I only come out to play now and again so maybe I am simply not up on the latest bashings that are taking place right now. Maybe since I have been gone we attack the researchers and newshounds like Scooter, Breitling, Enoch8 and Highlander, and if you don’t know all those names, well then you should, because they will educate you on real facts, not pumper theories. If you issue with Scooter is that he associates himself with people who potentially may be frauds or are out to get your money post RV, well then in that case there are not too many sites he would be able to participate in now would, as every site owner has post RV plans for your money, all sites make money either through membership fees, VIP fees, or through banner ad sales, even the great Adam Montana who has his Post RV group ready to go down in Belize. So Chuck, what’s the deal? Do you fancy yourself the protector of the lemmings who don’t know any better? Did you yourself get taken and now feel the need to save others? Or are you simply an agitator, someone who likes to throw bombs and see what trouble he can cause? Don’t worry, you are not the first, you won’t be the last, and if that is what makes you happy all the power to you. But what I can tell you is that all you have done is take someone who did a lot of good for this investment and provided a lot of real insight and caused him to potentially just walk away. Not because he is hiding something Chuck, not because he can’t defend himself to you or to others, but simply because he has a life, a business to run, and there is too much energy wasted explaining things to people like yourself to make it worthwhile anymore. I know, I reached that point a long time ago, sometimes being right and doing the right thing doesn’t make you right in the eyes of the masses. In closing, Chuck, anytime you want to get all those feelings off your chest, let me know, I would be glad to listen, but understand, you picked on the wrong guy, and the masses are the ones who will pay for it. Lucky for me, I talk to Scooter on a regular basis, he is a friend and we speak often. After all is said and done, we will be friends long after we have cashed in, what will you have? Best of luck Asiegel674 PS: Adam Montana, I would have expected you to have been a bit more diplomatic in your approach. Scooter has been a friend and colleague to you and has brought a lot of news, research and other things to your site, where you make your living. Big mistake to step on someone’s toes like that who has stuck by you, but then again, this will all be over soon enough and we will all be off to bigger and better things.

I believe this is not the GOI of Iraq but rather speaking about changes within the Kurdistan region itself which has its own parliment and elected officials as ell as its own military force. This does not look to effect what we are trying to accomplish, it is asking for a change to the regional govt of Kurdistan

I agree with bumper, 3 days seems about right, would stop the trouble makers who hit and run

great post Dflake, as always you are finding some real gems, thanks

Glad to hear you got it starightened out, its a good sign of a business to admit mistakes. Thanks for posting, I have done business with Ty as well and liked his service and I like Ali's service too. Its good to have options when this thing pops

I have never had an issue with Ali, in fact I just paid off a reserve order that I placed on Nov 19th and received my dinar without issue when I paid it off this last week. I can only speak about my own expereince with Ali, but I would caution the post before it gets out of hand with bashing

Bump Its hard to plead your case when you dont know why you were kicked, Someone said Carrie Ann was banned because she was trashing this site somewhere else. As someone who bounces back and forth I have NEVER seen her be disrespectful on either site. She added alot to the DV chat room with her reserach, and if she has not done something on this site directly to trash the mods or Adam how can she be banned. Seems like a witch hunt and that is not what this investment or this site are all about. Just my two cents and hopefully I would not be banned for expressing my feelings. I the end we all want the same thing, an RV, and hopefully that happens soon. I have come to find some wonderful people on these sites and I think its a shame we cannot all get along and have to go on power trips now and again Thanks

PPG you have done it again, you are awesome ++++++++++++++++

I think people are taking the word "Free" a bit too liberally. The service is not free, noone has ever said that. The Free part is that the consultation to listen and ask questions is Free. Just like Adam's person charges for setting up and LLC or an IBC,. if you decide to move forward you will be charged for the services you decide to get. Lets stop bashing, on both sides. We are all of free will and choice. Information is powerful and hearing others opinions is of use to everyone. DO not judge, lets just all try and ride this thing out together and stop with the mud slinging, take a higher ground. in the end we all want the same thing, an RV. That is my two cents....if you want bash away

Thats a great article, surprises me that states like Florida and Texas arent in there basd on the weather and amenities, but who knows