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Yep you said it foot on mouth. You stated big news but not saying rv and now your 10 days are almost gone. Now you gotta save face AKA cya what better time to do a chat. and blow some some smoke up the a$es of the people who look to you for knowledge,hope and confidence. Looks like the book sales,vip memberships and members of this site will be diminishing a little more in the coming days cause you really dropped the ball on this one. I'm sure you can muster up some sort of bs pump crap to lure the newbies and keep the not so bright members around. But keep up the good work cause you are good at what you do. Oh Yea GO RV ************** mod edit: member was warned twice. Now he is banned for life **************

they have ran everyone off. Used to be tons of people here but all the bs has made this site lose credibility an has lost some very educated and helpful people. chat room always says 80 in reality theres about 25 or so used to be about 280 plus all the time. That just goes to show you what rumors, smart a$$es and pumpers can do to a site. anyways gotta go my new site needs attension

Your desperation is transparent and weak. It's pumpin posts like this that have ran everyone away from this site. Used to you could log on here and the chat room would be 280+ at ant given time now it always says 80 for some reason and theres never 80 in there. But theres to much BS and rumors goin around in here now. I come about only once a week now because of it. I have found a much better site with no BS

Im callin B.S on this one . fed ex could care less what they are delivering I know cause i worked for them.You are either making this up or your getting jacked

yep there ya go ........you know what forget it..just shut up

Use your bank or go to ali. by the time you pay for vip and the other stuff. u coulda paid 150 per mill, or nothing at ur bank........just sayin

day dreamer in addition to the leadership of the Sadrist movement Baha Araji<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<i liked that part...showing that part of sadar's group been with maliki on trip duck2000 deals with the devil must be made day dreamer next week is an appropriate time to end the open session of the Parliament and start a session in which elected official of the Presidency of the parliament and the President of the Republic, who in turn commissioned the majority bloc candidate for prime minister to form a government» <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<and that part day dreamer (National Alliance) is likely to choose presidencies next week day dreamer http://www.nenosplace.com/showthread...7362#post87362 day dreamer oh yea day dreamer let's get this over with day dreamer it's been a long wait for them to announce Xwoman it sure sounds like it's really finally happening duck2000 ya they keep messing aroung we will get to end of year Xwoman not far though day dreamer no duck i know it's not that far.................BUT i want it over this month day dreamer no eoy.....yes eom day dreamer i'm glad maliki's finish his tour....now are all the dealings done that need doing so we can move forward day dreamer hey duck maybe by the time you finish your bathroom!!!! lol duck2000 ya just two more days duck2000 just didnt have to deal with countries that didnt want to sucsed day dreamer that is the last 2 more days....................no more extensions lol day dreamer ready for duck to say eom eom eom lol quack i say quack lol duck2000 havnt made it past eoy yes we on track day dreamer Al-Hayat reported today that «the National Alliance» that combines the «coalition rule of law» and «al-Sadr» likely that parliament will convene next week to select the Presidency of the parliament and the President of the Republic after a «final understandings» with the «coalition forces Kurdistan »and his delegation, who returned to Erbil negotiator to inform the Presidency of the Territory and the Parliament on the outcome of the talks with the political blocs. day dreamer We are currently awaiting the official position of the Kurdistan coalition forces, which we expect to be firmly in favor of our candidate to support the Government of Mr. Nouri al-Maliki».He believed that «next week is an appropriate time to end the open session of the Parliament and start a session in which elected official of the Presidency of the parliament and the President of the Republic, who in turn commissioned the majority bloc candidate for prime minister to form a government».The «National Alliance» stated ahead of his meeting with the «coalition forces Kurdistan» accepted all the demands and the points contained in the paper of Kurdish without conditions. duck2000 guess this i going to hurt mahdi chances charlaanne Hey Duck, finished yur const. work yet? duck2000 not yet two more days day dreamer doc....it's now ...beom (by end of month) lol day dreamer my words not ducks just so i's don't start a rumor lol day dreamer duck said articles are looking good Rfxlady still looking at pm = rv . . gov should be announced very soon Rfxlady arent we duck duck2000 we hope so charlaanne you think that is still on? PM=RV, like immediatly, or is there some rigamarow to go thru to RV duck2000 pm=r/v charlaanne like something to do to lift 7, or does 7 even have to be dealt with? Rfxlady we hope pm = rv or pm= rv Rfxlady guess I am not fully awake and following this conversation at all duck2000 7 has yo delt with nut the unsc has said get goi you get free duck2000 7 has to be dealt with but unsc has said get goi you get released Rfxlady yes duckie . . much better day dreamer Prime Minister of the outgoing Nuri al-Maliki, on Friday, the political blocs to accelerate to go to Parliament to resolve the issue of choosing a speaker and selecting a president to end the political crisis in the country, again at the same time keen on the participation of the Iraqi government. Maliki said in an interview for "Alsumaria News", "The problem of the National Alliance to resolve the issue candidate, now dissolved, and the coalition is almost agreed unanimously on the candidate," stressing "the need to rush to the political blocs to go to the House of Representatives to choose a president and then elected President of the Republic who will in turn filter the largest parliamentary bloc, the National Alliance candidate, to take over as prime minister. " sassy boy.. sure hope iran doesn't mess this up duck2000 iran cant Rfxlady thats good to hear duck day dreamer geez duck all the articles and the flurry hasn't started yet.........oh my i'm gonna cry citygirl duck, do you think mal is going to make his 30 day mark? duck2000 yes i do duck2000 wait untill after the seating then you get your flurries lol dreamer "the National Alliance was able to achieve advanced steps in the talks conducted with the parties, to persuade them to join the new Maliki government," noting that sassy duck said maliki is going to make his 30 day mark.. sounds good to me day dreamer The National Alliance was able to achieve advanced steps in the talks conducted with the parties, to persuade them to join the new Maliki government," noting that "the parties concerned, expressed earnest desire to participate in a government headed by Maliki."[/ mochasmom and "the parties" includes iraqi? sassy he said that he thinks maliki will make his 30 day mark mocha.. then we'll see the flurries mochasmom well 30 day mark is 10/31 right mochasmom so no flurries till nov? Rfxlady flurries start when gov is seated charlaanne Ok, this is a re-cap as I understand it... 1)30 day window to name gov then vote on PM, that will be done by Oct. 31. (gov. named, not necessarily PM named) 2) vote on PM, Don't have any idea how long that takes 3) if gov. is seated, PM named, Ch 7 to lift, No idea how long that will take 4) if gov, seated, PM named, Ch 7 lifted, RV!!! Still sounds like gonna take some time, looking back at how sloooow they move. EOY sounds right to me. Any comments on time for these events to take place??? Bama Diva Still not completely sure what it all means though. If they do not have tradeable currency, does that mean we do not have an RV mochasmom well they are supposed to nom. pres first mochasmom then he picks or nominates pm mochasmom i think the voting wont take long cause mal has won over most of the support mochasmom sounds like Nov. to me Bama Diva MM, doesn't Mal have to be chosen PM by Oct 31? Or did I misunderstand Duck's "30 day window" for Mal? Franky All I know is.....Duck said this morning that SOMETHING don't even know what anymore...is still going to be done by the 31st!! Bama Diva I mean officially Carol D mal has til oct 31 to announce as pm...duck said he would make the deadline...pm = rv charlaanne I thought gov. has to be named, & doesn't gov get named 1st, then pres. nominates PM? Carol D yep mochasmom i still believe 7 has been lifted so all we need is UN to announce it once they are satisfied with the progress of the forming of govt Carol D 5. agreee mocha charlaanne Oh maybe I misunderstood, I thought their process was gov. named 1st then Pm gets nom. Carol D yes the pres has to name the pm Bama Diva I believe Maliki has to be officially announced by Oct 31. Carol D you are right bama mochasmom If you read the Constitution Posted by Kar earlier, you can then understand that the process of seating the Prime Minister and Ministries are as follows:\ 1. Parliament Convenes, within 15 days of the confirmation of the General election, and is called into session by the President of the Republic, who is the Prime Minister, after he is appointed. That falls on Maliki and is his total failure to have done so. Failing that, it then falls on the Elected President, who is Talibani and is also his failure to have done so...... hence, the Constitutional Crisis..... they are both derilect in their duties. mochasmom 2. Parliament convenes: It is chaired by the Senior Member and they elect a President and the Deputies. 3. The New President of the Republic, appoints the member with the largest block, within 15 days of the President being sworn in. 4. The PM appointment has 30 days to submit a list of Ministers to Parliament for a vote. 5. The President must appoint a President of Ministry, also within 15 days, who is also approved by Parliament within 30 days following the appointment. charlaanne So you understand it as all gov. PM & parliment, cabinet etc... by Oct. 31? mochasmom 6. The PM MUST have a majority of 2/3 Parliament to be elected. 7.Failing that, the President has 15 days to appoint another, who also has another 30 days to show a list of Ministers. 8. Parliament approves the second appointment, by a simple majority, and it is done. Bama Diva I'm going by what I recall Duck saying, that Maliki had a 30 day window form Oct 1. charlaanne Bottom line, all gov. stuff by OCT 31 Bama Diva If not by Oct 31 according to my understanding, then Maliki may lose or will lose the job. If I'm wrong, someone correct me. patty under constitution, Maliki has 30 days to form gov. after he is nominated? patty started Oct 1 patty i think patty must mean he has to get everyones blessing in the gov. as well as neighboring countries? Franky 7:55 PM [day dreamer] hehe 7:55 PM [mochasmom] people see what they want to see, but its candidate, not PM....yet 7:56 PM [chazmaz] they have to elect a president, who will invite maliki to for a cabiinet, which must be approved by majority vote of the parliament 8:15 PM [duck2000] He explained that "the investment law, proceeded in a hurry because of the large momentum of the laws in the previous parliamentary session" .. Required to be aware, "Review of the seriousness of the law." 8:15 PM [duck2000] chapter 7 cannot go past the end of year you have my word 8:16 PM [duck2000] yes seems the hcl abd the FIL were done today 8:17 PM [duck2000] 01/10/2010 12:45 mochasmom so next week we will likely see it all happen at once mochasmom so all we need is #1 patty and we know from duck they have a date and rate they are working towards, right? patty i think they have a lot more done than advertising, just waiting for the right time to relase! patty they need a world wide recognized currency, these were not gov. contracts, open to world! sassy charlaanne what was it duck said about trade fair charlaanne just that they probably will not have RV by the time of trade fair mochasmom he said that Franky Char ask duck if there currency had to have value before trade fair and he said ...."don't think so Char" patty he was very excited and pointed out about this not being gov. contracts, and open to buisness world wide? mochasmom get goi seated and pm announced and go from there mochasmom we cant micromanage it MamaEhrhardt 5. Top Topic Talk The episode tackled the following issues: * Is Iraq’s economy prepared for such a change? * What is the effect of removing zeros from the currency? * Will removing zeros from the currency cause fluctuations in the Iraqi market? * Is the project aimed to improve Iraqi payments system? * What is the effect of removing zeros on bonds market? How is the process of removing zeros progressing? * Will removing zeros add up to the purchase value? * What are the gains of such a project? These questions were addressed with the following guests: * Iraq’s Central Bank advisor, Mazhar Mohammed; * Economist, Basem Antoine; * Economist, Majed Al Souri; * Baghdad Investment Committee spokesman and economist, Thaer Al Fili [Thair Feely]; * Industrial investor, Thabet Al Baldawi; * Head of Iraqi Businessmen Union, Ragheb Rida; * and a number of Citizens. Guaynaboy the tv program about the zero deletion duck2000 yes they say early next week we wait and see lol bait lady My question is always : Is it soup yet? lol duck2000 lol not yet mochasmom 5. Top Topic Talk According to a member Mahmoud Othman of the Kurdistan Alliance, said Friday that the final position of the formation of a coalition of the Iraqi government would be announced after the completion of outstanding matters between the blocks and activate the findings of the initiative Barzani, the Kurds once again claim the post of President of the Republic. mochasmom so after arbil we should look for them to convene right? and then we are almost home! duck2000 yes lets hope so mocha mochasmom Furthermore, the CBI will continue to have an external auditor conduct reviews of its net international reserves and also of its net domestic assets for each test date under the SBA (with the exception of end-March), with the review for end-June 2010 to be completed by end-October 2010 (another new structural benchmark under the program), and with the scope of the NDA review expanded to include a review of the operations of the Memorandum of Understanding between the CBI and the Ministry of Finance with regard to IMF disbursements and debt service obligations and the operational controls over government accounts. mochasmom I would assume that is of some importance, the end of Oct report duck2000 yes it is mochasmom woo hoo!! knotfinder So is there anything that could keep this report from coming out at the end of October kass hey ducky - is everything still on track? duck2000 yes it is we have no glitch mochasmom so duck, this morning when the 2 day rumor started (ha ha)....someone also said you thought mal wouldnt need the full 30 days he has to form the goi, that gives him next week and some change...... duck2000 no they asked if he would get it done in the thirty days i said yes duck2000 (Voice of Iraq) - Alsumaria News / Baghdad Waved Iraqi Prime Minister outgoing Nuri al-Maliki on Friday, has designed the National Alliance to form the new government even without the participation of all parties to the Iraqi List, warning from entering the country into chaos if the situation remains as it is. candle So Duck you take that as a positive article? duck2000 Maliki said in an interview for "Alsumaria News", on the sidelines of the conclusion of his trip to Turkey that "the problem of the National Alliance to resolve the issue candidate, now dissolved, and the coalition is almost agreed unanimously on the candidate," stressing "the need to rush to the political blocs to go to Parliament to choose a president and then elected President of the Republic, who will in turn filter the largest parliamentary bloc, the National Alliance, a candidate, to form a government. duck2000 now these articles look great to me sounds like some push to get er done lol citygirl so does maliki still have others to visit or do you think he is done outside his borders now? duck2000 no done with the visits readytogo i have a question that prolly all y'all on here could answer readytogo ok.... i thought he had to officially be announced first before the 30 days began.... i'm glad that is not the case day dreamer and that gave maliki 30 days to announce his cabinet duck2000 yeppers what she said lol day dreamer 55:24 PM [readytogo] ok.... i thought he had to officially be announced first before the 30 days began.... i'm glad that is not the case<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,it was on all news stations Zuzu or is it 21 cuz he was announced on the 1st? duck2000 once announced he has 30 days to get his cabinet readytogo has parliament convened? mochasmom 2. Parliament convenes: It is chaired by the Senior Member and they elect a President and the Deputies. 3. The New President of the Republic, appoints the member with the largest block, within 15 days of the President being sworn in. 4. The PM appointment has 30 days to submit a list of Ministers to Parliament for a vote. 5. The President must appoint a President of Ministry, also within 15 days, who is also approved by Parliament within 30 days following the appointment. 6. The PM MUST have a majority of 2/3 Parliament to be elected. 7.Failing that, the President has 15 days to appoint another, who also has another 30 days to show a list of Ministers. 8. Parliament approves the second appointment, by a simple majority, and it is done. \ mochasmom we're waiting on them to do that next week rosewood do you think the Prez will take 15 days??? mochasmom article yesterday said they would likely do that next week duck2000 no rose it wont Xwoman ok, I got confused as to when the 30 day count day begins....after nominee announced or after PM announcement? rosewood Oct 1 rosewood after nominee announced rosewood right duck? duck2000 yes duck2000 we are at the next step mochasmom so is it true the IMF has set the rate and DATE? duck2000 mocha didnt ya read the article on the imf mochasmom yes.........i remember rate, let me go look at it again duck2000 the rate doesnt apply mocha duck2000 all we need to do is relax and let it fold out duck2000 we didnt have an old rate mocha mochasmom so why doesnt the rate apply, i'm confused duck2000 ok did you read the article mocha mochasmom now what did u want me to post, lol duck2000 that rate thingy mochasmom so, the date and rate were set , thats all duck2000 but it was the one from 1.34 to 3.02 rite mochasmom the article that said wb and imf set the date and rate mochasmom oh, so thats why u said it would not be that rate, i got it now duck2000 lol yeppers mospens Duck is that the one that was posted when the IMF were meeting duck2000 yes

Talabani and Ban Ki -moon discuss the latest developments in Iraq Held by President Jalal Talabani in New York talks with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on the latest situation in Iraq and Iraqi-Kuwaiti relations and obligations of Iraq, especially singled out in Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations. The Office of the Secretary General said in a statement last night, " said the secretary -general expressed hope that the implementation by Iraq of all its obligations , especially those relating to the State of Kuwait , "stressing at the same time "the commitment of the United Nations to help Iraq and Kuwait to develop their relationship in this regard. " In terms of political developments in Iraq, expressed concern that the five permanent members of the UN Security Council has not made significant progress on forming a new government in Iraq after more than six months after parliamentary elections. Friday, September 24, 2010

Welcome to all of you who so faithfully follow us down this path that seems to twist and turn with every new day. To say that we are baffled would be a gross understatement. To say that we are frustrated would be less than accurate as well. In fact, we probably all want to go to the window, open it and stick out our heads, and yell, I’m mad as hell and I won’t take it any more! Somehow I don’t think that will be very productive, though, so I guess I’ll just summarize the news that is important, as I see it. Supposedly the National Alliance has given itself 5 days to determine whether Maliki or Mahdi will be the candidate for Prime Minister position. Maliki is pushing now to activate the “consensus” method to see that one candidate is nominated from the NA. They will have only 5 days to make this determination, but of course we don’t know when the time clock will begin on the 5 days. The INA believes that the 5 day period started yesterday, their time. I suspect that Maliki has another view on this matter. This makes no sense, since Mahdi already claims to have 163 signatures and even said that he had made an agreement with Allawi and Talabani on the 3 presidencies. Iraqiya, led by Allawi, has followed through and is now stating that it will boycott the negotiations with the National Alliance if Maliki is chosen as their candidate. In other words, Allawi is saying that he will only deal with Mahdi. We saw before that Allawi and Mahdi had already come to a compromise in which Mahdi would be Prime Minister, Allawi would be President of the Republic, and Talabani would be the President of Parliament. Apparently that has been thrown into the trash can, or at least sidelined until the Maliki issue can be resolved. Al Bayati of the INA is now saying that it will take another week or two in order to determine the 3 presidencies. What? I thought this was decided already! However Al-Bayati also said that Quote: the failure of the National Alliance to agree on a candidate for the position will drive us certainly in the direction of the Iraqiya List and we would then enter negotiations with it to form a government. Now, if the National Alliance cannot come up with a single candidate through the consensus method within the 5 days period, then they will resort to the 65% majority vote method. The problem with this method is that those voting are only the Wise Men from within the National Alliance. They consist of 14 members, so it would take 9 votes for 65%. There are 7 members from the INA and 7 members from the SLC making up the Council of Wise Men. It appears that Maliki may have managed to get two of the INA representatives to switch from Mahdi to Maliki. If so, then Maliki will be able to get the 9 votes needed to become the sole candidate from the NA. The problem with this, though, is that Allawi is now on record stating that he will boycott the process entirely if Maliki is the candidate from the National Alliance. And in saying that he is ALSO still insisting that he has the right to be the one to form the new government. Therefore, IMO, this could drag on some time yet, unfortunately. Now I’ve been told by some that what I say here is being listened to on the other side of the planet and that I need to be careful what I say in order to not “upset the apple cart” over there. So I will therefore only refer you all back to my comments here, all of which come directly from news sources, and let you all come to your own conclusions as to what this really means. On the other hand, I could write up an analysis paragraph or two and have Rodney blast it out to those on our email list. I haven’t cleared this with TK or Rodney, but it is worth a shot, in my opinion. Moving on, apparently the US has finally laid its cards on the table. A source close to the pace of negotiations to form a government said that Washington and Tehran have told the National Coalition candidate, Adel Abdul Mahdi, to withdraw his candidacy for prime minister. Why don’t I want to believe this statement? I’ll tell you why: Washington and Tehran are in the same sentence, agreeing with each other! NOT! You can throw this one out the window, IMO. The Kurds, who had apparently originally agreed to work with Mahdi and Allawi in forming the new government, are now balking and are actually leaning toward allowing the National Alliance to be the largest block to form the new government, rather than Allawi. This is an about face for them and is very difficult to understand, if it is true. We can only speculate on what might have happened behind closed doors to cause this change, if in fact this is real. For months it was clear that the Kurds were not in favor of Maliki, period. Now they seem to be saying that he will have the best chance of becoming the candidate from the NA and that if he is, they will negotiate with him. Honestly, folks, this baffles me. I’m inclined to believe that this article is pure BS since it is totally inconsistent with previous statements from the Kurds. In the meantime US ambassador Jeffreys says the US is keen on getting Iraq out of Chapter VII In addition Kuwait has removed all objections to getting Iraq out of Chapter VII. Therefore we may, just may see something on this front this week. However, we are dealing with the UN. Can anyone say snail’s pace? So where are we as of September 22? This is a very good question indeed and I have some definite thoughts on this. However, by prior agreement I’ve decided not to present them in this call or even on the forum, for the reason I stated above. Let me state this, however. I believe that the process is moving forward, however slowly, and that we will see a resolution within the next week at the most. This is in regard to the formal announcement of the 3 presidencies. There are a couple of things that could continue to delay this, however. I cannot mention those here but I would say that the 5 day window is a good indicator that we are approaching some sort of resolution to the new government announcement. Unfortunately, Allawi may turn out to be right in his statement that the government would be formed next month. With respect to Chapter VII we are seeing more light at the end of this long tunnel. However, as I said above, we are dealing with the UN and they just don’t seem to respond quickly, either to Kuwait’s overtures or the insistence of the US administration, or even the fact that Talabani himself came to beg to get released. Only time will tell on this matter. This leaves us no closer than our last call to the RV, in my opinion. We have Saleh of the CBI stating that the new government must be announced before the RV; that article came out over a week ago. I think we must trust that he knows what he is talking about. This then puts us, once again, at the mercy of the politicians in Iraq. Unfortunately, I’m not at liberty to give my prognosis as to what is really going on behind the scenes at this time. Again, only time will tell on this matter. In conclusion, we are in a waiting pattern. I sincerely believe that everything regarding the RV/RI is in place now, and that the trigger can be pulled at any time after the formal announcement of the new government. But when that announcement will be made is totally up to the politicians in Iraq. I am not in any position to even speculate on that at this time. Thanks for your attention. I’d say I could be wrong, but in this case I really haven’t given my closely held views, so I’ll just say, I’m out for now.