FishMan1969

I have included a screen shot to make this official.. Shown BELOW. The CBI Website first posted Rate of 2011 at 1170.000 and 1168.000.... This means it is OFFICIAL... That: There was NO RV in the IQD in 2010.. and that is a fact! Which means with all the GURU information anyone could gather over the years of time that stated that the Paris Debt Reduction Program is null and void without an RV in 2010.......... Then I guess it is null and void and the FULL DEBT MUST BE PAID now that the RV officially did not happen in the designated time frame. And for all the experts that said the CBI would be closed today..... Apparently you were wrong as well... Because obviously they never update their indicative rate when the bank is closed.... IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.... By the way, today was never listed as an official holiday or that the CBI would be closed today... once again it was a rumor that went VIRAL.... Quickly like all the other wrong rumors around the web... So all the experts acting in the position of authority that keep spilling forth facts that continue to be proven wrong, please either admit your errors and give us your excuses why you were wrong... or start putting your new info and prerequisites out that the masses can then begin relying on for the year of 2011. These NEW prerequisites keep popping up daily lately.... We would all love to see the NEW info that everyone is to rely on for the next year while we all wait for the RV in 2011 (hopefully). Unbelievable misinformation presented constantly and it does wear on peoples nerves over time.... IMO... And if I am wrong..... please, some GURU, please, please tell me why I am so off the mark... So I won't have to think on my own anymore. I can see why the new advertisement for new gurus was posted recently.. http://toledo.craigs...2134436191.html I hope to see some MORE qualified GURUs that come to the forefront in 2011 that bring More factual information that can assist all of us less knowledgeable investors.... while we patiently wait. Thanks to those researchers on the WEB that DO not put forth anything but facts that can be backed up with GOOD hard DATA and avoid the Dates and Rates stuff (ie SCOOTER).. We appreciate you keeping it real.

You can join me as a friend on facebook if you have really evil intentions, I have no problem with it... Just hit me up with a friend request...... at www.facebook.com/iamastupididiotthatisaskingtogetrippedoffafterorbeforethervand willgiveallmypersonalinformationoutincludingpicturessoyoucanknoweverythingaboutme/ I look forward to your request.... CYA

I guess today makes T - 0 ................................. Time is running out.... Frank26

Niko, If this "cat" is in Toledo, it is interesting that I found this Help Wanted Ad also in Toledo, Ohio... http://toledo.craigslist.org/sls/2134436191.html It was emailed to me on Wednesday.... I thought I would share it in case anyone wanted to apply from here....

Maybe the GURU title is up for grabs right now... I just found an advertisement with a search engine IQD search.... Here is the link.... http://toledo.craigslist.org/sls/2134436191.html

If they are insinuating JD is Jordanian Dinar Values..... This would mean the purchasing power would be 1.41 times each number presented in this budget in USD.. Example: If 1,000,000.00 JD is allocated in their budget for toothbrushes, that would be 1,410,000,000.00 USD worth of imported toothbrushes. (and their dental care should improve ) So the purchasing power of these numbers is much greater than the numbers presented in the budget, especially for the investment portion of the budget. Just my 2 cents for today... http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi?Amount=100000000&From=JOD&To=USD&image.x=44&image.y=12ℑ=Submit

So, Why is this amended budget referencing JD throughout the whole thing...????? Jordanian Dinar code is JOD and 1 JOD = $1.41 But a 2008 Iraqi article also refers to JD as Jordanian Dinar... so JD could be JOD..... (Just saying). example: Prices of cooking gas in Jordan suddenly increased from 4 JD to 6.5 JD (1 JD = 1729 Iraqi dinar or $1.41) per tube, while fuel gas, which is used for heating purposes, moved upwardly from 0.315 JD to 0.555 JD per litter. LINK: http://en.aswataliraq.info/?p=69278 Feb, 2008 After each value in the draft budget, the symbol JD appears. IS this any indication of the use of the JD rate of $1.41 in some weird code way? Scooter has pointed out in past presentations that the Bahrain Dinar was used in previous documents as perhaps a coded number as well. I have never seen the JD in this budget draft until this one presented by carlablum. Thanks for the post.

Papa, "If that is true", and "if it is the current, valid currency", and "if you would post a picture of it"........................... Then, you truly would be respected of the entire Dinar WORLD! So lets see your 1, 5, 10 and 25 notes via a picture, based on your claim..... We are waiting and will praise you once you have done this.

Here is a screen shot of netdania tick today at 07:00 Time stamp 1 USD = 11.66 Therefore the momentary test or whatever it was would be 1 IQD = 0.085763 USD. This is nothing new, as they have done this test about 5 or 6 times this year, all at different rates. Attached is the screen shot of when this happened. Nothing to get excited over as it could have been a test of a lower number like in the past months... Just for everyones information, NOT TO GET ANYONE EXCITED YET!!!!

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Since people are guessing predictions, I will give my latest impression only: A guess of the rate and date can only be based on Facts, assumptions of facts based on articles that may not even be true, intel (which IMO is usually worthless verbal diarrhea via a computer keyboard), logic, politics, political agendas, and opinions of Gurus that usually know less than the person reading the long, drawn out advice of the self proclaimed Gurus. So the guess of the rate and date usually changes by the day, if not by the hour based on the above non-concrete nonsense. And the math to calculate the rate is accurate, but the data it is based upon, IMO, may not be accurate at all. That is why my calculated rate seems way too low as compared to my true rate I feel we will end up seeing. My latest impression based on all the worthless nonsense mentioned above is: Tuesday morning 12/21/10, at between 1 or 2 am (EST), at a rate of 1.04-1.05 (which is only my calculated rate). But my impression could always change within a few minutes.

All the GURU's will be put to the test within the next 36 hours in regards to Ch 7, RV, DFI, etc. TIME will TELL and if the GURU's are correct, I will applaud them. If they are wrong, it narrows the number of preachers the congregation will listen to from that moment on. Lets see who is right, and who is wrong. Everyone waits for the answers to long waited questions, with baited breath.

NOW HERE IS ANOTHER ERROR THAT KTF IS EXPLAINING ON THE CBI SIGHT WHERE THE VALUES OF THE IQD AGAINST OTHER CURRENCIES ARE IT IS IN IQD NOT USD THAT IS WHY IT IS 1170.00 THAT MEANS ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY DINAR TO ON US DOLLAR NOW IF YOU MOVE THE DECIMAL 3 SPOTS IT THEN BECOMES 1.170 THAT IS NOT ONE DOLLAR AND SEVENTEEN CENTS IT IS ONE POINT ONE SEVEN DINAR TO ONE USD WHICH IS $.86 I brought it to the attention of KTF last week with the same sample math problem I posted on DV last week, to assist all their members in how to calculate this correctly and was promptly banned for 24 hours and the math example problem was removed immediately...... hmmmmmmmmm. Someone did not like FishMan1969 describing the proper calculation on this for some reason....... Have not determined the exact reason for being banned by the admins of the KTF site over a math example. DV would never do that.

You can ask for forgiveness from me later, as you are wrong. I will be waiting, if you ever do figure out that my math in this simple problem is correct. I am not here to start fights, and your apology will be accepted when you say "sorry". You may want to start working on the cash in math like 76% of the other members have started to do (I hope) by now. Only 24% of the people on this site KNOW how to calculate the cash in total amount per a recent poll that was posted. You are not in that group. Thanks for trying to correct my math anyways. Responding with kindness, FishMan1969

In case anyone is wondering what the discussion was about: This discussion was in regards to the buy rate shown on CBI web site ( www.cbi.iq ) that has previously shown 1170 and now shows 1170.000. I am really digging the change, so now it can handle a number LESS than 1 which will give us a cash in rate GREATER than 1. Example: If CBI site shows 1 USD = 1170.000 IQD, this means the value of the USD is greater than that of the IQD, (not what we want!) If CBI site would show a number less than 1 as the buy rate, (like a 0.250) which the site can now handle, the cash in would be as follows: 1 USD = 0.250 IQD So Divide both sides by 0.250 or multiply both sides by 4 and the cash in exchange from IQD to USD would be 1 IQD = 4 USD So I see the added decimal and three zeros to the right of the decimal as a very positive move by the CBI site in preparation to a number, perhaps, much more sensitive or smaller than the present large number of 1170. And of course, if it is less than 1, I am sure most of us would be very happy. I hope this explains what I was trying to say in Chat last night. Lets just get this RV underway and have a great Christmas.

Apology accepted. Like I said last night, I didn't want any trouble. Thanks again, and I sincerely hope that the decimal and 3 zero's WILL BE NEEDED soon. The smaller the number, the better Cash in rate for us.

This is VERY important and had to happen for an RV in a range that we all desire. awesome!

I am ONLY RUNNING the numbers and not predicting anything. Patriotic Party Girl just posted the percentage of the budget allocated for "Investments". The Council of Ministers on the draft general budget of the Government, the total allocations (by Iraqi satellite channels) 92 trillion Iraqi dinars, equivalent to about U.S. $ 80 billion, while the Iraqi finance minister has said a few days ago that the size of the Iraqi budget for 2011 amounted to 80.4 billion U.S. dollars, media reported that the budget deficit in 2011 amounted to approximately 14 trillion Iraqi dinars, and the proportion of funds allocated to the investment of the budget referred to $ 30 .%... Link - http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.almowatennews.com/news_view_12710.html&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhhJMGIS5G-3JLHKX-F8k42g4INKaA So with the math listed from the first article giving dollar figures and the second article giving the percentage I was looking for, This is what THE MATH came up with..... not FishMan1969.... "Total budget next year some 93 trillion dinars including 29 trillion dollars earmarked for investment project expenses" So 30% of the 93 trillion dinars is 27.9 Trillion dinars If 27.9 Trillion dinars = 29 Trillion dollars from the combination of the two articles (IF they are even accurate or True...... ha ha) Then 1 IQD = 29/27.9 USD or 1 IQD = 1.03942652 USD SO: 1 MILLION IQD = 1,039,426.52 USD IF THIS MATH WAS USED..... I am just using mathematical logic which is VERY DANGEROUS in trying to figure out the Iraqi Dinar Madness. I dont agree with this rate as a potential rate for the RV, BUT, the numbers show from these two documents that the IQD is slightly more valuable than the USD with an exchange rate of 1 IQD = 1.03942652 USD (same as 1 USD = .96206897 IQD) ....... for those who have learned anything about the inverse relationship from prior math examples. I like the 1 IQD = 3.86 USD much better, and would like to hope for a target figure of this instead... I AM NOT PREDICTING A RATE IN THIS EXAMPLE.... ONLY ANALYZING THE MATH OF TWO NEWS ARTICLES.... FUN, FUN, FUN....

That is what I call an efficient judicial system...

This article makes no sense to me for a couple reasons..... 1. QUOTE "Total budget next year some 93 trillion dinars including 29 trillion dollars earmarked for investment project expenses" Mathematically it is not possible at TODAYS exchange rate of 1 USD = 1170 IQD HOW CAN 93 Trillion Dinars at today's rate INCLUDE 29 Trillion dollars????? The total budget = 93 Trillion Dinars is less than something to be included within that total at today's rate. Because 29 trillion USD = about 33,930 trillion Dinars. Last I checked comparing apples to apples - 33,930IQD is greater than 93 IQD Am I making sense of this? 93 cannot include 33,930 in the same units (trillions of IQD) So "that sentence" makes absolutely no sense the way I read it UNLESS there is a different exchange rate being applied!!!!! This makes me want to play with the numbers to attempt to figure out an exchange rate that would work.... And I am no expert!!! Just from this one sentence alone: The MINIMUM exchange rate would could be looking at would be 1 USD = 3.21 IQD if all (100%) of the 29 was used in the word "including". (The same as 1 IQD = 0.31 USD) The exchange rate (assumption: if the investment project expenses was 50% of the total budget (which I have no idea if that is true or not)) would thus be 1 USD = 1.60 USD (The same as 1 IQD = 0.63 USD) (getting better in my opinion) The exchange rate (assumption: if the investment project expenses was 25% of the total budget (which I have no idea if that istrue or not)) would thus be 1 USD = 0.80 USD (The same as 1 IQD = 1.25 USD) ONCE again, I am just playing with the numbers of that one sentence to determine possible rates with a calculator. (which I have always thought would be over 3.00) But just by this one sentence alone, IF we could determine the investment portion of the budget in a percentage form, we could extrapolate the correct exchange rate, unless I am making this way to simple. I am not claiming to have figured anything out, I am just playing with these numbers that have been presented in the first paragraph that make absolutely no sense at the present exchange rate. ALSO the inclusion of both $ and dinar in the same line item sentences is driving me crazy…. Which is it, IQD or USD…. EXAMPLE: A. $(28957957804) dinars (twenty-eight thousand nine hundred and fifty-seven billion nine hundred and fifty-seven million wethmnmaeh and four thousand dinars) for venture distributes as project expenditures (field/2-expenditure investment projects) (table/b expenditures by ministries) of the Act B-$(64022625166) dinars (sixty-four thousand and twenty-two billion sixhundred and twenty-five million, one hundred and sixty-six thousand dinars) forcurrent expenditure and as follows Any help on these numbers would be appreciated….

Thank you ADAM for not banning me for posting this math challenge on DV site. I have been officially banned from another site (freak26) for posting the same math problem. They do not want people to be informed on Cash-in calculations as that topic is too controversial. OH MY WORD!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't even mention the TOBIN tax which has been proposed for a long time..... The IMF wants a tax on Currency exchanges as well... link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobin_tax When James Tobin was interviewed by Der Spiegel in 2001, the tax rate he suggested was 0.5%

Just wanted to address the potential two taxes that may have an impact on all of us: (it is my understanding that neither have passed yet, but still have time according to the last report).... `Subchapter C--Currency Transactions `Sec. 4475. Currency transactions. `SEC. 4475. CURRENCY TRANSACTIONS. `(a) In General- There is hereby imposed a tax on each currency transaction made by, or on behalf of, a United States person. `© Amount of Tax- `(1) IN GENERAL- The amount of the tax imposed under subsection (a) with respect to any currency transaction shall be equal to 0.005 percent of the value of the currency acquired in the transaction. THIS tax is negligible .... If you profit 100 million USD, your tax would be: $100,000,000.00 x .00005 = $5000.00 currency transaction tax or $1,000,000.00 x .00005 = 50.00 So 50.00 per million, Big deal.... If it passes, means very little to each person, but adds up amongst all daily normal transactions plus the windfall transactions of the Dinar investment. `(d) Currency Transaction- For purposes of this section-- `(1) IN GENERAL- The term `currency transaction' means-- `(A) the exchange of any currency for another currency, and `( entering into any currency derivative. Link: http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread.php/16381-Currency-controls-on-the-way! The bank transaction fee may also be introduced as well which is 1% on all bank transactions..... (THIS IS THE BIG ONE, affecting everyone with a bank account) President Obama's finance team is recommending a transaction tax. His plan is to sneak it in after the November election to keep it under the radar. This is a 1% tax on all transactions at any financial institution i. e. Banks, Credit Unions, etc.. Any deposit you make, or move around within your account, i. e. transfer to, will have a 1% tax charged. If your pay check or your social Security or whatever is direct deposit, 1% tax charged. If you hand carry a check in to deposit, 1% tax charged, If you take cash in to deposit, 1% tax charged. This is from the man who promised that if you make under $250,000 per year, no new taxes......really, seriously..... H. R. 4646 This bill, spells it out that everyone will pay the Government 1% of their gross income DEPOSITED IN ANY BANK OR FINANCIAL INSTITUTION. Page 9 states the House and Senate shall convene not later than November 23, 2010 and Page 11 states the vote on passage shall occur not later than December 23, 2010 http://www.godlikepr....age1224454/pg6

In watching Iraq Internet TV live at 9:30 am, they were showing different news than their regular cookie cutter articles. Concentrated on Shabibi and showed him in front of the Parliament. Then they spent a lot of time on showing Natural Gas Production sites, and the last thing they showed was Hillarious Clinton. Does anyone know if she is there right now? http://www.albaghdadia.com/livehigh They ran new video clips in this segment. Usually they use old parliament video clips every day... the same old clips over and over.... Just trying to put this article in perspective with their TV news. Thanks for the post Frank519

OK, folks..... Thanks for contributing and participating in this poll... The results tell me that 76% of the members who attempted my math problem on Cashing in post-RV, should let the bank figure out how much or ask their kids to give them a hand at the math. 24% of the people got the answer correct which was answer number 3. I tried to keep the question fairly simple and avoided spreads, tax law, and other things that are very relevant to post-RV cash in. Here is the posted explanation, the best I can describe it. Answer: You hold 2,000,000.00 IQD The rate in the UN spreadsheet states: 1 USD = 0.8547 IQD This is where people get confused. Explanation: If 1 USD buys less than 1 IQD, this means the IQD is WORTHMORE than the USD If 1 USD buys more than 1 IQD, this means the USD is WORTHMORE than the IQD CBI site states at this time that 1 USD = 1170 IQD, Thusright now the USD is MORE VALUABLE than the IQD If the UN spreadsheet or CBI Website www.CBI.iq ever show a number LESS than 1, thismeans the IQD is WORTH MORE than the USD, which is what we all want. This means 1 IQD will buy more than 1 USD. So in the example I gave, the new RV rate of 0.8547 means, 1USD will buy 0.8547 IQD If you trade 1 IQD in at the bank do the math: Look at the units, you have 1 IQD and wish to change it intoUSD. Example: 1 IQD x 1 USD/0.8547 IQD = 1.17 USD (the IQD unitscancel each other out) Solution for original problem: So 2,000,000.00 IQD x 1 USD/0.8547 IQD = 2,340,002.34 USD Take your taxes out (feds get the 45% which leaves you with55%) So 2,340,002.34 USD x .55 = 1,287,001.29 USD (your after taxproceeds) Then give your charitable donation (10% which leaves you 90%left over) So 1,287,001.29 USD x .90 = 1,158,301.16 USD Rounded to nearest dollar is 1,158,301.00 as the correct answer. For anyone that came up with a different amount than thecorrect answer (which was about 76% of our members according to the poll), you gave up over 312,000.00 USD duringyour calculation (those who picked the most popular answer) and would never even miss it….. I will give you a PO BOX to send it to if you want to giveit away to someone…. I sincerely hope that perhaps that description helps explainthe conversion from USD to IQD or IQD to USD a little bit better for you. Thanks for everyone participating and learning. The 76% that got it wrong, perhaps hiresomeone to manage your finances or at least do your math for you… We all knowthat post-RV, you should be able to afford it….