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COOL--- my friend -- 1st off why dont you try Aaron Russos talk first- www.FreedomToFascism.com - lets take a look at what he says first- You can call this guy a liar to-- He was friends with David Rockefellergo figure huh? Try that 1st then we will tear it all apert--- up for it? I am-Blessings Vern By the way The Truth will set US both Free----- hows that for being a friend huh? Blessings- Vern

1st off Thankyou- for saying what i was trying to say- You said it right as far as i am concerned- WHAT gets me is when someone on this FORUM says anything people want facts and they want it to be right me included. When people put forth pieces of info the 1st thing out of the gate is someone asking for a LINK. .So people give the links and guess what - someone that has bever been on before is right on it saying they are wrong. Where does this come from? I think what it is - is people dont want to be exposed so the grab a name and relist and start the arguements and then you dont see them again. For the people who are here it throws everyone off. We want the truth about things . We also worry about our investment. I like others have spent and some have overspent even against their own judgement to hedge a bit to come out ahead. These 2 countries we live in have grabbed everything but the kitchen sink from us and we want and pray for a better future some for ourselves and family and others for other people and wish lists. We just want to get ahead even if we know the Great Gov,s will grab their so-called fair share. If there is just enough for that loaf of bread then we feel safe. So i give a LINK and get skinned by someone who has never beeen or will probably never appear again. FOLKS we have been raped and supremely raped. IAll i did was try to show where i was coming from. Because it hurts me to see people hurt. When the truth is there people will not listen when a lie is there people will believe - WHY? I Thankyou - for being who you all are- Vern It is OK for the elite to say --LET THEM EAT CAKE-----Hey i got news for you IDIOTS --I DONT LIKE CAKE- Vern

believe what you want----Thats the nice thing about a FORUM thats what it is a FORUM --- dont get excited - read stuff like we all do and hen check it out--Its called due dilligents- You did it with the Dinar i hope- You do it with all your other stocks and Doctors i hope...Dont take my word for it - I found it interesting just like you- I didnt post this to get things going i just opened it up for discussion. Thats all. Im not upset at the responce -- sooner or later we will al know the truth and the truth shall set you free. It all really doesnt matter - We will all find out answers . Some sooner sme later- By the way----This isnt e-mail stuff this is your books in Gov and in ours also. How do you think we feel. sheesh---- Blessings-Vern

http://www.iraniumthemovie.com/drip/korin.html----It is all about oil---- The cartels have the rules--Vern

SMEE2 ---i think your right in that ditty---Look at the camel-----Those long eye lashes---- and the Sphinx a heart of stone--- ah the old story- ...Those long Desert nights- --Vern

Dont you just love it when a Nerwbie comes on and knows everything? It doesnt bother me that you ask these questions. What does bother me is that many people think that to think differently and question WHY doesnt seem right to them. Im glad your daughter has done so- Now would you be so kind to give the Colledge or the Univ. where she teaches and the coures and the degree,s she holds. I would challegne her also. Is that different than being in her clas? If i challenged a Proff. and didnt agree with the summations put forward and asked why where how when theory would i be tossed. ? Your daughter must have asked these questions or did she sit and listen and follow what was taught as truth and took it as such.---Even you have asked the questions here. So why am i any different cant i put forth theories. Until proven different and thourly proven as to answer all then i wouldnt say what your saying-I wont dance to a drummer i will always follow my own drumm so to speak and thais what makes this world tick. Blessins---- oh they have been prven . Some people are AWAKE- some still sleep- This is what happened in Germany- because no-one bothered to ask questions ..... why? because people didnt want to bother-I answered this for REMEDY. I always try to seek remedy that is the way we are supposed to be - Thats is what the WORD teaches isnt it-- just said a different way---- As for a newbie --well maybe your hiding under a different pretext. Vern

Old fart from Southern Jersey, USA--SORRY BOUT THAT OLE CHAP-LOL---YUP READ IT ALL- I DID AND I ALMOST CRIED TO---- YOU AINT SEEN NOTHIN YET- tHATS WHY I ASK ALOT OF QUESTIONS HERE- now that is said- when i got into this FREEMAN movement i lnew alot of people wont listen but when you wake up you will see- On the Birthcertificate here in Canada is a number other than the number that is there-That number is traded on the NYC Stock exchange--- and yes it is real. All your I,D,is in large cap,s - that means your a corporation right off of the bat. If you do not fill out a Birth Certicate You the parent will go to jail.. Am i right so far? Vern

Just a second SMEE2 --Igot to put my glasses on to hear you and turn up my hearing aid to see you---let me put my teeth in so i can comb my hair---- hey we have a system ---puppies - look at a needle and pass out. DONT worry kid this is what you will look like after you raise KIDS- Vern

SMEE2 I HOPE THIS ALL DOES NOT SCARE YOU -- this is all in part of why i worry about our countries. It is not the land mass it is the people in it- This why i am concerned and yes you are right in saying i have had the priviledge of living in both countries and studing the system while there. It is scary until you understand your FREEDOM and what is ans what isnt. I know this will be heavy but it was the only way to answer--Wait till i show you where CANADA is what they call the 13th Colony- That will floor you -WEHAVE BEEN SOLD OUT-- --------you fill out the PPSA and send it to the states first the reason being as your birth certificate comes from the states in ontario comes from Boston. Also Canada is a sub corporation to the states and the commercial lien process isnt done much here and as they follow the states, it is easyer to do it in the states then you send in the ppsa from here in canada. PPSA – Personal Property Security Agreement – a Financing Statement, filed in CANADA Thirty Little Known Facts about America 1. The IRS is NOT a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. Diversified Metal Products v IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.I. Public Law 94-564 Senate Report 94-1148, pg 5967 Reorganization Plan #26 Public Law 102-391 2. The IMF is an Agency of the U.N. Black's Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg 816 3. The United States has NOT had a Treasury since 1921. 41 Stat. Ch. 214 page 654 4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. Presidential Documents Volume 29 No. 4 page 113 22 U.S.C. 285-288 5. The U.S. does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States. No more reorganizations. After 200 years of bankruptcy it is finally over. Executive Order 12803 6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NSA and all of the other Alphabet Gangs were never part of the U.S. Government, even though the 'U.S. Government held stock in said 'Agencies. U.S. v. Strang, 254 U.S. 491 Lewis v. U.S., 680 F.2d, 1239 7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF. The application for an SSN is the SS5 form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5, not the 'Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who publishes them while the old form states they are Department of Treasury. 20 CFR Chap. 111 Subpart B 422.103 ( 8. There are NO Judicial Courts in America and have not been since 1789. 'Judges do NOT enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. FRC v. GE, 281 U.S. 464 Keller v. Potomac Elec. Co., 261 U.S. 428 1 Stat. 138-178 9. There have NOT been any 'Judges in America since 1789. There have only been Administrators. FRC v. GE, 281 U.S. 464 Keller v. Potomac Elec. Co., 261 U.S. 428 1 Stat. 138-178 10. According to GATT you MUST have a Social Security Number. House Report 103-826 11. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Guiliani stated on C-Span that 'New York City is the Capital of the World. For once, he told the truth. 20 CFR Chap. 111 subpart B 422.103 ( (2) (2) 12. Social Security is NOT insurance or a contract. Nor is there a 'Trust Fund. Helvering v. Davis, 301 U.S. 619 Steward Co. v. Davis, 301 U.S. 548 13. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an Agency of the United Nations. Examine one: top-left should be written 'United States Treasury see 2-4 above. 14. You own NO property. Slaves can't own property. Read carefully the Deed to the property you think is yours. You are listed as a TENANT. Often times the Mortgage Holder or the State is listed as Seised in demesne as of fee. Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session Seised in demesne as of fee. This is the strict technical expression used to describe the ownership in 'an estate in fee-simple in possession in a corporeal hereditament. The word 'seised is used to express the 'seisin or owner's possession of a freehold property; the phrase 'in demesne, or 'in his demesne, (in dominico suo) signifies that he's seised as owner of the land itself, and not merely of the seigniory services; and the concluding words, 'as of fee, import that he is seised of an estate of inheritance in fee-simple. Where the subject is incorporeal, or the estate expectant on a precedent freehold, the words 'in his demesne are omitted. (Co. Litt. 17a; Fleta, 1.5, c. 5, 18; Bract. 1.4, tr. 5, c. 2, 2) Brown. "Black's Law Dictionary Fourth Edition, page 1523. 15. The most powerful court in America is NOT the United States Supreme Court, but the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. 42 Pa. C.S.A. 502 16. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary War. Treaty of Versailles July 16, 1782 Treaty of Peace 8 Stat. 80 17. You CANNOT use the U.S. Constitution to defend yourself because you are NOT a party to it. Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor & Alderman of the City of Savannah, 14 Georgia 438, 520 18. America is a British Colony. The 'United States is a corporation, not a land mass and it existed before the Revolutionary War and the British Troops did not leave until 1796. Respublica v. Sweers, 1 Dallas 43 Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116 Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80 IRS Publication 6209 Articles of Association October 20, 1774 19. Britain is owned by the Vatican. Treaty of 1213 20. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol. 1, 53-54 21. A 1040 Form is for Tribute paid to Britain. IRS Publication 6209 22. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of Conquest and Discovery. (Ever wonder why an Attorney, who is an Agent of the Pope through the International Bar Association, wants to do 'discovery with you?) Papal Bulls of 1495 & 1493 23. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of Millions of people. Papal Bulls of 1455 & 1493 24. The Pope's 'Laws are obligatory on everyone. Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix, c. vii., n.4. Prati, 1844 Syllabus prop 28, 29, 44 25. We are SLAVES and own ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Not even what we think are 'our children. Tillman v. Roberts, 108 So. 62 Van Koten v. Van Koten, 154 N.E. 146 Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session Wynehammer v. People, 13 N.Y. Rep 378, 481 26. Military Dictator George Washington divided up the States (Estates) into Districts. Messages and Papers of the Presidents, Volume 1 page 99 1828 Dictionary definition of 'Estate 27. 'We, The People does NOT include the General Populace, or what you THINK is 'We, The People. Barron v. Mayor and City Council of Baltimore, 32 U.S. 243 28. It is NOT the 'duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest Code Breakers. Sapp v. Tallahassee, 348 So.2nd. 363 Reiff v. City of Philla., 477 F.Supp. 1262 Lynch v. NC Dept. of Justice, 376 S.E.2nd. 247 29. Everything in the 'United States is up For Sale: Bridges, Roads, Water, Schools, Hospitals, Prisons, Airports, etc. Did anybody take time to check who bought Klamath Lake? Executive Order 12803 30. 'WE are HUMAN CAPITAL. Executive Order 13037 The U.N. has financed the operations of the 'United States Government for over 50 years and now 'owns every man, woman, and child in America. The U.N. also holds all of the land of America in Fee Simple. Why is the above so difficult for most people to understand? Simple: words like 'person, 'citizen, 'people, 'or, 'nation, 'is, 'fact, 'authority, 'truth, 'nation, 'crime, 'fraud, 'charge, 'right, 'statute, 'preferred, 'assume, 'prefer, 'constitutor, 'creditor, 'debtor, 'debit, 'discharge, 'payment, 'law, 'United States, and hundreds of others do NOT mean what you think they mean and you were never taught the 'Legal Definitions’ so that you would 'Understand that you DON'T understand. Don't let this information alarm you because without it you cannot be free. You have to understand that all slavery and freedom originates in the mind. When your mind allows you to accept and understand that the United States, Great Brittan and the Vatican are Corporations which are nothing but fictional entities which have been placed in your mind, you will understand our slavery is because we believe in fictions. Stephen Ammes, author The Ultimate Delusion The Illusion is MUCH larger than the irrefutable 30 points above, and the 30 points above are not even the tip of the tip of the iceberg For more information, see: www.atgpress.com www.TheAmericanVoice.com http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=IRS+is+a+Fraud www.ZeitgeistMovie.com www.FreedomToFascism.com http://www.myspace.com/KC7AQK http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=911+Truth+Movement I ONLY ANSWERED THIS IN LOVE for my fellow man-May GOD Bless you and your house-and i am open to answer all what you have-this where we learn and learn we will Vern

That was part of it--- Well we have made progress- what little of it but we made it- .. My wife said that they said it a different way now -- so i will wait again.... QUESTION-----How can i get it straight if the news cant get it straight----IM SCREWD---AAAAAUUUUUUHG Thanks Vern

Hey Bamf------May GOD Protect you and keep you - You are precious in HIS sight-GOD has given you wisdom and insight to either make this up or to send it on and for that I Thankyou. Being a trucker -retired- and operater of heavy equip. and fast cars you would never know the places and faces that appear out of no-where. The snap decisions one has to make sometimes has left me in tears because of the word -so close-- The RODEO comes out after you get thrown. Sometimes we need that and what you have said here can do that. Mine was when i digging a foundation at a house and a beautiful lady opened up a window on said house and looked out as i was swinging the bucket back in and the hydraulic line broke and the bucket and arm swung into the window just as she unaware got inside and it stopped ever so gentley against the glass of the window she was looking thru. As she stared at me she was smiling not knowing the problem. I turned off the machine -got out- went inside and hugged my wife of 5 years at that time and she was pregnant to, She still didnt know until i showed her and explained why i had asked her to stay away from that side of the house. She said she was asking what i wanted for supper. INNOCENCE is what happens in cases like that I never shook so much in my life -never forgot it either and when i trained people in our buss. i always told that story. I still hug her and she still looks out windows and she still like equip. but I have never forgotten. Things can happen for stupid reasons on either part mine was a malfunction not speed . We all get hit with reality a different way--Thanks for what you have posted - I know the perfect cowboy to send it to. if this dont work i,ll take the tires off. --- Thanks again-Vern--GOD Bless you

YA -OK sam--- please explain how this can be good- everything i have heard i have always gone against and come out ahead. The spin doctors do a good job of bluffing and i believe we are getting tired of it.. am i right so far? Vern

It said again that the Federal Gov might shut down on March the 4 or 5th 2011. Go figure. BNN said something to this affect also. -blurb- 1 line and went on and that is when i flipped to CNN. --Just asked my wife again to what we heard and yup it was what i posted earlier. Me im just going to wait and see- Thats the way i do it all now. I listen and wait - While i wait i listen---- Watch the news it has to come on ----Ive been here long enough -- that i would think yall wont think ill pull your leg. But check it out. Remember im in Canada and news is defenitley percieved differently than there. But i would think this would speak closely to what we saw and heard. -----THATS why i asked for comments--- I dont want it to be true --- this could cause a kaos---Vern

GOOGLE-CNN NEWS- WAS ON TV TONIGHT-made me get up and take a listen--Vern

The connection is that Gaddafi gave the Rev.Al Sharpton the grand tour in 98 and gave OBAM,S old pastor the tour in 99- and while Obama was growing up help to fund schooling for certain muslims. Has given to the Muslim Assoc. Millions to help school and build the centers. I can see why Obama has a hard time saying what he has to say. I guess it,s like a bussiness eh? Connections yall connections. --It doesnt bother me one way or the other . History has a way of showing us the future. This has been fortold years before we got here. The BIBLE tells of it all. History has a way of repaeting itself. HIS-story---yup no doubt about it..... GOD Bless our countries -That is my prayer. If we all turn towards GOD - it says in the word that HE will tarry- any takers---? May GOD of our Fathers Bless you and your houses ----Vern

and the winner gets out and checks the licence plate to see if it was shot off- well there goes another season --- back again in the fall as they look for the winner----last seen running for the Dakota,s Vern

CNN news------says banks closing on Thursday- trying to get money problems under control. I think it is something bigger. OBAMA says getting fiscal house in order---did they do this in 1995? The question is did it do any good? What i would like to figure out is how will this affect the Dinar? ----any comments please. Thanks Vern

http://www.pdegraaf.com/ This is who i use- read his material. havent lost at all with this man. 1 horse operation. check him out -you will be impressed also. This guy write for KITCO also. and other numerous mags. Vern

OK now that this is out in the open the Canadian Gov will now send in CSIS- That is the same as the CIA or FBI- or somewhere in between. Our GOV. always steps in where knock-offs are present. Last year they got a cargo mints. Someone said LIFESAVERS were coming into the country and - well the rest is history--- Vern

Yes Thankyou THOR---This was sent to me like the way i sent it on - i will edit the way you have done it next time- Im sorry and will learn as always. Yes this is the article. I didnt post it to glorify it I posted it to show what we are up against here. I to would like to see the note. The only one who ever had a note like this was Sinatra - He was paid well --The Iraqi system has to revalue because it is so screwed up. I really dont believe it either.. I love when in the darkest corners of the night a friend shows up to help out- Thanks Vern

Malcolm Berko: True believer hooked on currency scam Chicago Sun-Times In fact, the Central Bank of Iraq just approved a 100000 dinar-denominated bill because there are not enough smaller bills to pay the rapidly increasing costs of food, clothing, transportation, fuel, housing and baksheesh. Meanwhile, the Iraqi economy ...

As a Canadian --I agree with everything you have written. The only fault i have is in the Bearing of Arms--- I have to roll up my sleeves for that one. I dont have a problem with that either. We also play alot of Baseball here. So we tend to carry bats for a game of pickup.Thats a farm boy for ya. .So i guess you roll your sleeves up to and play alot of ball? . Thanks and have a Good Day Q..Vern

-I beginning to see something here- I think all you guys and me included have taught alot of Bankers tellers alot about the Dinar. I am getting the feeling that the more we tell people about that SOMEDAY we will walk into a bank and find no-one there- There is a soimple reason for this -- we tole them and they have cashed in and told their bosses to Take This Job and Shove It.Now if any bankers are smart they have done so already. It sure would be nice to see the tellers that took abuse from the bosses and upper echelon finally get a break and have a reason to sleep in. Some of these people have worked hard for what little they have . Someday someone just may come back to you and say Thankyou for taking the time when my boss didnt. For those bosses i hope they lose- - i say it for a reason cause i know a few - and i wouldnt give the sweat off of my armpit if they were dieing of thirst. I know this dont sound right but there are days when i think that the little guy,s like you and me jaust have to let it out. Wouldnt it be nice to open a bank just to help people? Have a GOOD and a Fantastic Day--oh and keep telling the tellers- they have to be told-- Vern ?

gawd this hurts- rothfl sides hurt dinar was fried lunch was cooked cant help it- Thanks - now for a coffee- Vern