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Thankyou Colt for your personal testimony. And my sympathies for the hardship you and your family have had to share. They say a loss of a child is the most grief stricken thing that a person will ever have to go thru. It sounds as if you have made peace with your maker.
Nelg, once again, appreciate the insight of a man who no doubt, should have been a poet, your words are both smooth and full of wisdom.
And for you missy, always have to throw a question in at the end, eh? Makes us old geezers (as in me) spend valuable brain cells on answering questions instead of chasing, oops Nelg is in the room, instead of drinking beer.
For the believers in the crowd, I ask that you don't take this disrespectfully; this is only my observations and is not meant to offend. With that disclaimer out of the way, let me just say:
So what if there is no meaning in life? If you look towards science, basically we have only one purpose, to survive. And that survival, doesn't necessarily even mean you as a person, it is the very genes that make you up. Tiff, I know you know about Evolutional Biology, so I won't bore you with it as I think you would understand. Now when I meant there may not be a meaning to life, I mean for mankind, other than to advance and evolve. But that doesn’t' mean there can't be meaning in your own personal life. That is yours to discover. You are the captain of your fate and must find out what in life is your passions and then you strive to obtain them. Each individual is different. To be a good husband/wife, to be a good friend, to be a good parent, to be President (frankly, can't understand why anyone would want that job) or whatever.
I have read several books on evolutional biology, and they point that moral codes are someone like t i t 4 t a t. That is, you do something for me, and in return I will do something for you. That way a society is formed, beginning with tribal knowledge and then working up to laws. With all due respect to Colt, there are several other religions and philosophies that have evolved separate to the religions of Abraham that have basically come to the same moral conclusion. Perhaps the best known one is the Golden Rule, which is found in over 23 separate religions, please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule
I fall back on my original post, that because so many people in the world believe so many different ways, and yet share some of the pillars of humanity (moral codes and beliefs in Gods/afterlives), then maybe the God we seek, is within us. How you choose which one is right for you, is truly the path that each of us must take. Just a reminder:
Christianity is not the oldest live religion, nor is Judaism. According to my research it is Hinduism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism
In addition, Tiffany, I'm sure you will be ecstatic to see that the "Nones" (which includes deists, agnostics, atheists, and theists) is the fasted growing belief: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_to_be_the_fastest-growing_religion
Now…where is that beer?!
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Yup, how we just happen to be right where everything is just right (otherwise known as the Goldielocks theory) is what continues to keep the mystery alive for me.
I once read this: Sometimes I think that we are alone in the Universe, and sometimes I think we are not. And both of them are equaly exciting and terrifying.
Nice one Delta!
You two are playing my tune. This is exactly my biggest hurdle to get over, and one that I pose in my postings on Devil Advocate. Nicely done!
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Nelg,
Thank you Sir for your insight. I’ll be honest with you, your knowledge in this area makes my head spin (and kind of ache as well). I’m nowhere close to your league in this realm, so I’ll be glad to sit on the side line and see if anyone engages you.
Sparta, glad you enjoyed the feedback as well as I did. And thank you for contributing.
Tiff,
You know I never mind you hijacking anything of mine, except my 81 Corvette!
I can only give you my insights on your question, with no more to back it up than “worldly” observations and some limited knowledge of History.
As far as Hope: Yes, there is no doubt that belief does provide comfort. You need only look at parental love to known that if you believe a loving father (or mother) is looking after you, it gives you the courage to carry on. However, a “Hope” in an afterlife can also work against the betterment of mankind. For example, Islamic radicals use the false pretense of 72 virgins in Heaven if they die in the name of Allah. Likewise, in WWII the Kamikaze pilots were told of a special place in Heaven if they sacrificed their life for the Empire. As others have said, evil men have used this to control people for centuries if not millenniums. Even today, one could argue that giving up one’s life for God and Country is a major incentive for taking part in one’s country’s War. In this case, I’m not saying it is bad, I’m just saying it is used as a motivation for warfighters to take up their weapons.
With that said, I also wonder what would take up the slack, if belief was taken away. Personally, it is still a bitter pill to swallow when I think that the Universe is uncaring and that I will exist for only a blink of an eye. But, it gets back to what I have seen you quote: is it better to be a happy pig (i.e. ignorant) or is it better to be a unhappy Socrates (i.e. realist knowing what is in store at the end )? For believers, I do not mean to construe that there is no afterlife, I simply mean that for me, as a skeptic, it is reality that I find difficult to digest.
Now, as far as a moral code and what would happen if Religion was immediately swept away (via Ancient Cosmic Race landing on the WH), that also would be a dilemma. The very fact of another intelligent race landing period would cause generalized panic, I would think. To look for an answer, we may want to turn to Asia. The Eastern Religions or Philosophies give moral codes to live by but without much in comparison with Western ideology. They believe more in the family unit vs. the individual. As in, they know that doing something worthwhile with their lives would make their ancestors (both alive and dead) proud of them. But this is something they grow up with and is begun in early childhood. So, concerning your scenario, where an afterlife/deity is no longer a liable possibility, it would definitely be a problem for most people to deal with. I know you have seen it, even on this site, that there are some here that it is even uncomfortable to question their faith in a thread such as this, saying that it is the work of the devil. Therefore, I hazard to guess, what these individuals would do, if their faiths were question to such a degree. I’d assume most would deny anytype of evidence, while other would commit suicide and some may even take up the sword to continue to press their beliefs (as in assassinating the aliens, perhaps thinking they are the Devil’s work). Fortunately, I don’t think we will have to worry about that during our lifetimes.
But I agree, Religion does have its place in both providing Hope and a moral code to the Masses.
Whew! Can I go have a cold beer now?
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Where in any of Tiff's responses on this thread did she say she was denying how you, as a Christian, worship? If you read, truly read what she wrote, she is saying that ALL beliefs should be honored. You continue to want to paint her as Anti-Christian, but there is no bullet in that gun.
And having read a bit of the Good Book myself, I'm sure Jesus would smother others will love and affection, that is HIS way.
I propose we just drop this discussion here. On another thread, she offered the olive branch, I suggest that it be accepted.
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And to you and yours Tiff. May the New Year bring true Peace on Earth and Good Will towards Mankind, no matter of your race, religion or nationality...we are all in this together.
Peace to all
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Oh, it did not!! It smacked of her being married to the worst president in the history of America. And if we can't laugh about her, then we will hate her just because she is married to him. And going after him (or his wife) isn't racsim. I'm sick of people like you calling everything you possibly can racism. That word is so over-used that it has become meaningless.
Her skin color had nothing to do with the comments here. No one mentioned color, skin, or racism until you made your comment. You were the first one to think of her skin color. So who is the racist?
That was uncool Francie. There was no need to do that to Tiff. If you followed the posts you would have know that.
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Caye98,
You make way too much sense. Having spent 4 years in Bahrain...can't argue with anything you've stated. Also, they kind of have the Big Brother attitude. While they like to fight among themselves, they get really mad if someone else outside the family starts picking on one if their little brothers.
It will be interesting to see how the ME evolves in the decades ahead...as a redistribution of wealth allows them to become more education and more free thinkers. Funny, I usually write on religious topics and your comments seem specifically applicable to that as well. Specifically: Certainly the more educated a person becomes the less they follow anything blindly, but if your leadership controls information, education, and beliefs they are indeed shaping their society.
I firmly believe that the internet and cable TV has done more to wake up that part of the world on what is possible. I remember many a times talking to the locals and they actually believe that Bay Watch was an actual depiction of how American's lived. If only we had a Pamela Anderson in every living room..or other rooms in the house, who would need 72 novelist, when you can have the Queen Bee at your Knees .
Well said!
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If I were Iran, I'd be more worried that the US may strike them vs Syria. Would Syria come to Iran's defense? The downfall of Syria is in the cards, their own people will eventually bring them down. Jordan is the first Arab country to come forward and tell the dictator to take off.
It's one thing for a terrorist organization to use a N bomb vs a country. A terrorist organization can "hide" and remain stealthy...at least for awhile. However, if Iran were to use a bomb against us or even Israel, there would be a big hole where the country used to be a few days later. They know that, so it is merely saber rattling.
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Excellent suggestions!
Any one have thoughts on these 3:
1. How to bring down the level of Iron in your blood...other than reduce red meats?
2. Home remedies for Fatty liver (yes I know reduce Alcohol consumption but what else?)
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The UL recommendation for all ages is 3,000 mg per day. There is no lower recommended limit, as the human body can make its own long chain omega-3 fatty acids from shorter chain omega-fats. Evidence for the health benefits is mainly from consumption of long chain omega-3 fats, either from fish or supplement sources. The AI levels for children aged 1-13 years range from 40-70mg per day and the AI levels for teenagers and adults over 14 years range
from 85 - 160mg per day. There is no AI or UL set for infants under the age of one year. Shorter chain omega-3 fats occur naturally in a variety of plant sources (including canola oil, olive oil, seeds and nuts). However, the only naturally occurring long-chain omega-3 fats in the diet are from marine sources such as fish (especially oily fish like tuna), crustaceans and shellfish. * North American figures obtained from http://dhaomega3.org/FoodSources/dietarysources.htm
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imo it's a very simple reason why atheists go after Christianity. In Matthew 12:25 Jesus said "a house divided against itself can not stand." Darkness is attracted to darkness, and hates the light. Jesus is the light of the world.
Islam is an anti Christian religion. As the saying goes the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Atheism and islam are both enemies of Christianity that's why they support one another. Islam rejects God having a Son, and rejects the divinity of Jesus. So atheism and islam are a house united, a house in darkness, but united none the less.
If they don't believe in any God they sure put all their energy on only one supposedly "nonexistent" God and that is Jesus. I mean really if no god's exist why don't they put all their hater energy on the flying spaghetti monster or fairy's in the garden instead of Jesus? Jesus sure arouses strong negative emotions in those groups which is really odd if He doesn't exist.
bottom line... "Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light".
cranster...I find much of your post disturbing on a personal level. First of all, believe me Islam and Atheist are so far apart, that I think both groups would be insulted to be lumped into the same group. Islam extremists are Anti-Christian but I'd hesitate to classify all Muslims as anti-Christians. The people of Turkey get along swimmingly well with Westerns..and until lately even Jews.
For Christians in the group, I'd ask you, how often do you personally run into a person of a different faith? Especially a Muslim or an Atheist? My guess is rarely, so you only read about them in postings like this...and how often do their actions actually make a difference in your every day life? Again, my guess is seldom if ever. The only thing that ever really bothers you about them is when you read these types of postings.
However, if you are one of them living in this society, one in which the Bill of Rights stipulates that are to be no laws either for/against a certain religion, you would run into Christian ideology almost at every turn. Think about it, if you saw "In Allah we trust" on your money, won't you go berserk? So, if you "walk in their sandals" for a bit, perhaps you can understand why they do what they do.
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I saw an interview with someone that had a firsthand account of what went on...and one of the things that they absolutely were furious with, was the fact that almost immediately it was broadcast to the world of what happen and potentially what Intel was captured. For each hour that this wasn't released Worldwide our spooks (CIA, special forces etc.) could have been tracking down the rest of the liar. But typical politicians they wanted to claim glory ASAP.
Thanks for the posting Delta!
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Bill....cant' take exception to anything you say. In any religion I'm aware of, there are those who say they are such and such and then there are those who actually walk the talk. It appears you are in the later category. Peace be to you.
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Bill/ems,
Please forgive me, as I can see where I may have misspoke. I agree that anyone that commits these type of hate crimes are not following Jesus or Buddha etc and are animals. Absolutely!
What I should have maybe pointed out instead is that Atheists and Buddhists have not committed terrorist acts in the name of their ideology. Now do both of these groups commit crimes as individuals, of course, but not in the name of their beliefs. Thank you for pointing out my failures to clarify this.
ems...first, thank you for being a gentleperson and pointing out that people of different beliefs can learn from one another. To be honest, I think that is 99% of the problem, we...the big WE as a culture seem to be unwilling to be open minded sometimes. As long as we respect other's opinions and agree to co-exist, then we will continue to evolve as a society.
However, I must ask for one point of clarification ems..you stated: most of the other religions claim that all roads lead to God or what really counts is one's sincere attempt to do good
I'm not sure if that is true, but...am willing to learn more. Hindu and Buddhism are so alien that I'm not sure one can really classify them in the same Abraham categories as: Jewish, Islam,& Christianity. Agreed, that they do rely on good deeds to go to another level, but it's unlike a Christian/Islamic Heaven, thus, I have a hard time comparing apples to apples. Secondly, Muslims would squarely fit in the realm of "if you don't believe what I believe, you aren't going to Heaven". And of course, they don't believe in the divinity of Christ.
I humbly maintain that the reasons Christians are picked on in American society is that Christians are the 800 lbs. Gorilla. Or as we say in the military, you offer a target rich environment.
Again, appreciate the opportunity to express my thoughts.
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I have a question for everyone who quotes Biblical Scripture:
How do you feel when someone quotes the Koran as a backup for what is true?
Why do you think that those vehemently opposed to Christianity would be any different? Do you think they even read that part of the posts?
Just sayin'
Excellent point. Why rattle off quotes that don't pertain to the discussion.
Each "religion" I'm sure has quotes that taken out of context could support what the poster wants to say. For instance, here are examples of not so nice things that go on in the Bible that one could take out of context:
GENESIS
17:9-14 Circumcision mandated
19:1-8 Rape virgins instead of male angels
19:30-38 Righteous man impregnates his 2 daughters while drunk
24:2-3, 9 Place your hand "under the thigh" (sexual organs) of someone swearing sacred oaths
25:1-6 Keeping mistresses is not adultery
32:25 God grabs Jacob's testicles
34:1-31 Brothers are riled when sister is defiled
35:2 Reuben sleeps with father's concubine
38:1-10 Onan's method of birth control not approved
38:12-30 Tamar plays the harlot to seduce father-in-law
39:1-20 Women tries to rape man
47:29 Joseph ordered to place his hand under father's thigh
EXODUS
20:26 God specifies building of altar to prevent exposure of nakedness
22:19 Death decreed for bestiality
33:17-23 God moons Moses
NUMBERS
31:1-18; 28-47 God commands genocide of Midianites, Moses orders that virgins be kept, other captives slain
5:11-31 God's fidelity test for women only
LEVITICUS
12:1-8 Bible calls childbirth a sin and bearing females a greater sin than bearing males
15:16-18 Sperm and intercourse are unclean
15:19-33 Menstruation unclean; elaborate rules
15:29-30 Women must make sin offering for menstrual periods
18:22 Homosexuality declared an abomination
18:23 More bestiality
19:1,20-22 Man gets forgiven, slave girl gets flogging
20:10 Adulterers shall be put to death
20:13 Death decreed for homosexuals
20:15-16 Death decreed for bestiality (& beast)
26:29 Curse: Eat your sons and daughters
DEUTERONOMY
3:1-7 Kill men, women, & children
21:10-14 God okays captured maidens as trial wives
22:5 Men's clothing not to be worn by women, & vice versa
22:13-21 A bride not a virgin must die
22:23-26 Virgin raped in city given no pity
23:12-14 Defecation: Carry paddle, dig hole, & cover up
25:5-10 Woman has cause to spit in man's face
25:11-12 A woman shall have her hand cut off for touching a penis
22:28-29 Paying father to have sex with daughter
23:1 Man "wounded in the stones" can't enter congregation
23:2 Children born out of wedlock condemned as bastards to 10th generation
23:10-11 Cleanliness called for in nocturnal emissions
24:1 Man can divorce wife through eviction
28:27 Hemorrhoids ("emerods") punishment for sin
28:30 Lord's curse: Another man shall lie with groom's bride first
28:53-57 Curse: Eat your own body & children
JUDGES
3:20-22 Dagger in fat king's gut gets "dirt" out
4:4-22 Hammer & nail murder by woman
8:30 Gideon had many wives, concubines
11:29-40 Jephtha's daughter: human sacrifice
19:1-30 Woman raped and ruined by homosexuals
21:6-25 Amidst carnage virgins captured for wives
RUTH
3:6-9 To "hook" him as husband, Ruth sleeps with Boaz
4:9-10 Boaz buys Ruth
I SAMUEL
5:9-12 Philistines "smitten with emerods" as punishment for stealing ark
6:1-5 To placate God, make golden emerods
15:3 God orders Saul to kill suckling babes
18:23-27 200 foreskins gain David a king's daughter
25:22,34 Any that pisseth against the wall
II SAMUEL
3:7 More concubine hanky-panky
11:1-27 Uriah sent to lose his life so David can get his wife
12:7-12 Obscene performance to be viewed by all Israel
5:13 David had many wives, concubines
Chapter 13 Amnon rapes his sister
16:20-23 Absalom copulates with father's concubines on rooftop
20:3 David imprisons concubines for above
I KINGS
1:1-4 Virgin as therapy for sick old man unsuccessful
11:1-10 Wise Solomon has wives and concubines galore
14:10 Him that pisseth against the wall
16:11 One that pisseth against a wall
21:21 Him that pisseth against the wall
II KINGS
6:24-33 "So we boiled my son, and did eat him"
9:8 Subject not mentioned in sermons
23:7 Male houses of prostitution destroyed
I CHRONICLES
1:32-33 Abraham's concubines have children
II CHRONICLES
11:21 King Rehoboam had 18 wives & 60 concubines
ESTHER
Chapters 1-2 Sexual contest to decide new queen
SONG OF SOLOMON (the whole thing!)
ISAIAH
3:16 "...and the Lord will discover their secret parts"
9:20 Every man shall eat the flesh of his own arm
14:21-22 Slaughter children for fathers' iniquity
16:11 Biblical boast: "My bowels shall sound like an harp"
36:12 Eating dung and drinking piss
JEREMIAH
16:4 Grievous, obscene deaths
LAMENTATIONS
2:19 Something to lament
4:10 Women boil children for food
EZEKIEL
4:12-15 God says: Eat bread defiled with dung
5:8-10 What's for dinner?
8:2 Lord's loins make guest appearance
16:15 Fornications pour out
16:36-37 Their "filthiness poured out..."
23:1-40 Sex organs and ejaculate of harlots' lovers compared to asses & horses
29:7-8 God performs bloody castration via a sword
HOSEA
1:2-11 God tells Hosea to take ***** to wife
2:1-15 Complications ensue (lewdly described)
NAHUM
3:4-6 Lord: "I will discover thy skirts upon thy face"
MALACHI
2:1-4 An angry god will spread feces on your faces
MATTHEW
5:27-30 A man may lust but it's not considered just
5:31-32 Man can divorce wife for fornication only
19:3-9 Man who divorces and remarries is adulterer
19:12 Castrate yourself for Jesus
22:24 Law of Onan (you have to marry your dead brother's wife)
LUKE
2:21 Eight day old Jesus is circumcised
ACTS
5:38 Eunuch baptized
15:24 Circumcision is not commandment
16:3 Paul circumcises adult
ROMANS
1:26-32 *** men and lesbians "worthy of death"
I CORINTHIANS
6:18-20 Abstain from sex
7:1-40 To be more holy, refrain from sex wholly
7:18-19 If you're not circumcised, stay that way
GALATIANS
5:1-4 Paul speaks against circumcision
REVELATION
17:1-6 A ***** is stripped, eaten and burned
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Just for the record, neither Mohammad or Buddha believed themselves to be deities. Mohammad was a prophet and Buddha was an enlighten person, in their purest form, neither presided over any miracles. Technically, Buddhism isn't even considered a religion, as a religion requires a deity and possibly an afterlife, right? Buddha never spoke about a God and he believed in recantation but in a different form, and eventually Nirvana-non-existence.
I think Tiff's point was that Christians are so Anti-other beliefs, that others had to step up to show Christians how it feels to be a minority. I don't see this as a "hate crime". How many non-believers and Buddhist have been put in prison for burning down a Church, or cutting down people with gun fire inAmerica. There's no evidence that either of these two groups have ever committed acts of terror. (Pls don't try to bring up Stalin or Hitler as Atheist)
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Amazes me...why would anyone do this? You would have to know that it's bullet proof, that it's highly likely they will track you down...and the stupidest part is the Big Guy isn't even there...he's in Bali. Don't they higher and lower the flag to show if the Prez is in the building? Just proves that not only is the guy nuts but also stupid.
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1 Corinthians 13:11:
When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.
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Bill,
I won't presume to answer for oneguy...but I can share my thoughts. What you are addressing is basically Pascal's wager . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager
As a skeptic, I'll be honest, that line of rational kept me "humble" for a good many years. But, here are some thought on a counter argument:
1. PW does not address which God is the one and only true God. As mentioned in several of my postings, how can a Christian be so sure that he has the right God? The Hindu Gods are almost as prevalent (over 1 Billion believers). Jesus may be right for you, but is not right for others.
2. Your posting seems to indicate that non-believers can not live an equally good life. I think this postings and other's by Tiff show that non belief has little to do with how "well or honest" one lives. That is, non believers can live just as good of a life as believers.
3. This is my big one...I am more interested in finding out the Truth, regardless of what that Truth is. If there is a GOD, I want to know, if there is NOT a God, I want to know that as well. Can Christians honestly say the same, that is, does the Truth transcend your Faith? Are you open to hearing the evidence that support another religion and/or that no God exists. Or is your mind closed?
I'm leaning to the facts that support that one's beliefs are more of a product of one's surroundings. That is, how many Christians in America change over to Hinduism? How many Buddhist in China change over to Islam? Rarely.....I believe Tiffany quoted only 4% of people ever change Religion from what their society is.
Which leads to why you may feel that Christians are "picked on" by Atheist. I think that may be the case because Americans are predominately Christians, so the message is out to the biggest audience. Just my twocents.
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OneGuy,.Excellent Video!
While I don't put myself in the Atheist group, I consider myself a skeptic.and openminded. The God of the Gaps continues to shrink, as human evolve we know more and more how the universe functions.
Appreciate your comments.
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I'll bet anyone my mickey mouse watch that it will happen by mid Dec.
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Young Americans 18-29, what are their thoughts:
Young Americans are the only age group in which a majority approves of President Obama’s job performance (52 percent approve, 42 disapprove)
Young Americans are most likely to favor a government spending cap at 86 percent, and a balanced budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution at 74 percent.
Young Americans also differ from their older peers on entitlement reform. More than any other age group, they overwhelmingly support allowing workers to opt out of Social Security and Medicare at 64 percent and 65 percent, respectively
They are the least likely age group to favor raising the retirement age, with 80 percent opposed.
Young Americans’ view of the role for government is nuanced. Substantially more than any other age group—and also the only group to reach a majority—59 percent believe the government should not promote any particular set of values (compared to government promoting traditional values).
Young Americans are most likely to be fiscally and socially liberal
Young Americans are also the most likely to support a presidential candidate who is economically conservative and socially liberal, with 61 percent support, higher than any other age group.
http://reason.com/poll#article_152615
Interesting...seems like I've seen some of this before somewhere....hmmmmm
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Based on the number of views I think many people are scared to comment. No one wants to be labelled as a believer or worse yet an athiest(thats another thread).
Here little pink piggy piggy
Wow...That is heavy...now why didn't I think of that! Duh...seems to be obvious. Thanks for pointing that out.
Guess that ranks up there with asking how much someone makes and how many sex partners they've had. Impolite to ask, and probably won't get the true answer anyway. ha ha
Guess that will stop me from posting stupid questions anymore!
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Good article. Thanks for the post!
Yup, what a mess. My understanding is that the Big Banks in France and Germany are the ones that lent out all the money to Greece. When they are forced to write off the debt, it will cause a wave of pain/fear throughout the world. But, I think a lot of this has already been priced into the stock market. But nothing to back that up other than a gut feeling.
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Interesting comments. Thank you to those who open their hearts up, so that I can take a gander inside. Nice to know I'm not the only one that wonders if I have it down right.
I'm a bit disappointed that more people didn't take me up on the challenge.
Got to thinking more about what I'm uncomfortable about. There is now, I think, 7 Billion of us humans walking the Earth today. I've read that Christians make up just over a Billion of them, followed by Muslims, then Unbelievers...again each over a Billion strong. Then you have the countries of India and China...both each a Billion strong...so you have a large mass of people believing in Hinduism and I believe Buddhaism in China, but certainly could be wrong, so don't quote me!
So think about it, you pick 7 random people out of the world population, you line them up and chances are all 7 believe something different. Sure maybe the Christians and Muslims faiths are from the same branch (that of Abraham), but one believes in the divinity of Christ and one does not. And Hinduism and Buddhism are VERY different and much older (at least Hindu is, while Buddhism is about 5 hundred years older than Christianity, again pulling this from grey matter that may be faulty).
And it's a known fact that the vast majority of people follow the religion of their parents and/or society. It is very rare that say, a Christian would change to being a Hindu here in America. Or a Buddhist to a Muslium in China. So that leads me to wonder, how do I know I have the right one? If I was born in India, don't you think I'd have the same level of convictions as say some of the Christians I've seen on this site? Honestly, if you were born in India, do you think you would really be a Christian today...that some how the "real" God would make himself known to you, while everyone else in your community was following a blue Goddess with 8 arms?
Just seems to me that Religion is more based on where one was born than what one discovers for oneself...that my friends, is what keeps me up at night. ha ha
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'SAME-SEX' UNIONS CALLED "DESTRUCTIVE"
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I have no idea if you really believe this or if you were just putting it out there for public comment, but I do know you made someone that I care about very angry today. While you may not care, I do and would ask that you please refrain from making such rash postings in the future. In parting, here are a few words that may make you think twice before doing so again:
Straight Americans need… an education of the heart and soul. They must understand – to begin with – how it can feel to spend years denying your own deepest truths, to sit silently through classes, meals, and church services while people you love toss off remarks that brutalize your soul. – Bruce Bawer
From one of the Greatest Humanitarians of our time and a dam good salad dressing maker to boot:
I’m a supporter of G A Y rights. And not a closet supporter either. From the time I was a kid, I have never been able to understand attacks upon the *** community. There are so many qualities that make up a human being… by the time I get through with all the things that I really admire about people, what they do with their private parts is probably so low on the list that it is irrelevant. – Paul Newman