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Nice debate going on here guys. Everytime a LOP article rolls around the following thought hits my brain, and then my computer. " If they were gonna lop, they could have easily done that a long time ago". That is JMO. Also how would that help improve the conditions in Iraq? Not to change the subject but>>>> What about all the recent articles that are positive? Did they not say, Iraqs currency would be the most valuable in the World (or something like that)? I know lot's of you will disagree with me, and that's ok. Personally, I do not expect a Lop. How often do they tell the truth about anything? I will not buy more dinar, but I'm not selling either. Frankly, no matter the outcome, after almost 8 years of this...I just want it to be over. RSS

CNN. Broadcasting While The Iraqi Navy Is Installing Screen Doors On Their Newest Submarine ! Don't Laugh - At Least It Keeps Out The LOPsters ! 4-13-2013 Newshound Guru Mailman17 A FEW WEEKS AGO I GOT A CALL FROM THE BANK ON MY ROUTE THAT THE DINAR SHOWED UP ON THEIR SCREEN AND WAS NO LONGER CONSIDERED AN EXOTIC CURRENCY. THE SCREEN THEY SHOWED WAS GREY AND ALL IT SAID WAS THE DINAR...AND A FEW AMOUNTS OH, HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED. TODAY THEY SHOW THE SAME SCREEN AS ANY OTHER TRADEABLE CURRENCY LIKE THE EURO OR YEN ECT. SAME FORM EXCEPT FOR MISSING ONE LITTLE DETAIL...THE RATE. THEY HAVE IT...IT IS...0.00000000. 4-13-2013 Newshound Guru Mailman17 NOW THIS MAY NOT BE MUCH TO SOME PEOPLE...TO ME IT MEANS EVEN A SMALL BRANCH HAS THEIR CORPORATE APPROVAL. I ASKED HER ABOUT THIS SCREEN AND I WAS TOLD, YES, IF SOMEONE CAME IN AND WANTED TO CASH IN DINAR THEY WOULD HAVE TO PULL THIS SCREEN UP AND IT IS THE SAME SCREEN USED BY ALL TRADEABLE CURRENCIES THAT BANK TRADES. BINGO, NO RATE...SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO TURN THAT CUSTOMER AWAY AS NO RATE APPEARS. BUT, THATS NOT THE IMPORTANT THING. 4-13-2013 Newshound Guru Mailman17 THE FACT THEY HAVE IT READY TO GO IS WHATS IMPORTANT. THEIR CORPORATE RECOGNIZES DINAR AS A CASHABLE CURRENCY BUT WITH NO VALUE. SO, TO ME, THIS MEANS THE BANKS HERE ARE READY AND THEY KNOW ITS COMING. AGAIN, THIS MEANS AT LEAST THIS BRANCH AND IT BEING SMALLER THAN THE BIG FOUR CAN ONLY MEAN THE BIG FOUR HAVE IT AS WELL. THEY WAIT FOR A RATE FROM THE UST. THEY ARE NOW LIKE US, WAITING TO FILL THE BLANK IN. 4-13-2013 Newshound Guru Mailman17 I DID ASK HER REPEATEDLY IF THE DINAR HAS EVER DONE THIS BEFORE. SHE WATCHES THIS FOR ME. SHE SAID NO, NEVER....EVER. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE DINAR HAS SHOWED UP AS AN ACCEPTABLE CURRENCY...BUT NO RATE AND THATS FINE I CAN WAIT AND I KNOW NOW IT WONT BE TOO MUCH LONGER. I BRING THIS IN AS FACT AS I SAW THE SCREEN AND I SAW THE OTHER SCREENS SHE BROUGHT UP REGARDING THE OTHER CURRENCIES. THIS AINT RUMOR AND MY EYES AINT THAT BAD YET.

No expert....just dont let the gurus confuse and misinform on whats being talked about. They have made it quite clear through the articles over the years. I dont see how you can get any other conclusion to be honest. They have mentioned a exchange ratio of old to new, and have said this plan is following the steps of other countries that have deleted zeros. So if you look into what those countries did, there isnt much room for interpretation unfortunately. I dont like it just as much as you dont, but im not gonna sugar coat it and pretend its something its not......looking for something positive in our favor, just havemt seen it yet regarding their currency

All countries can't agree to the simplest International accords, much less to an economic reset. The concept of a global currency reset is pure fantasy.

the problem is boomer i have seen your posts and you post only articles showing either negative effects in their economy or Deleting zeroes its really NOT that hard to point out the obvious here. Either you have an agenda here because lets face it your under a different alias. I find it very ironic once a deletion of zeroes article surfaces which we know most are recycled anyhow its like sharks circling in a lake around a fresh school of fish. I ve noticed it for some time now you are very one sided in this investment i mean look at your comments "Its an RD" this is a "lottery ticket"" ive sold most of my dinar" i mean whats ur real agenda here? why share that? it seems you are trying to get people to sell their dinar just like many accused of people pumping dinar. I dont know about you but im here and in this investment to make money NOT to lose. Now we dont have the ultimate control over what the CBI will do but all, u have post are articcles to bring up the LOP theory give it a rest already. If u think youll lose out why even be here? P.S I have never seen you comment on positive developments in Iraq.

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All I ca say is "wow'. Do you have a portrait of Hitler above your mantle?

Whats it matter where she went? If this child was forgotten on the school bus the driver would lose his job AND have charges brought agains him. Well same should be aplied here. IMO

Several years ago I found myself in a waiting room of an international realtor. He was licenced to deal not only in his own province (BC) and country (Canada), but most of the rest of the world. At the time I knew him he was riding high on having sold, and arranged a new purchase, for the richest man in British Columbia. That may not seem like a lot compared to most of what we consider the richest of anything but this wealthy man started out involved in a multi-level marketing scheme (MLM) and over the course of just a few years was the provinces most wealthy mogul. Anyway, in this waiting room, the realtor had magazines. Well, yes, what waiting room does not have magazines? but these were not just Cosmo and Readers Digenst. They were magazines that featured articles, most with pictures, of the really expensive homes in the world. Some specialized in just North America and that was what caught my eye. I knew nothing about the dinar then, and had absolutely no way to become rich enough to buy a home like that. My speed was a three bedroom, two bath, with deck, garage plus carport, and a fabulous view from the dual level backyard that was a pain to keep up. Anyway, in these magazines I saw and read the descriptions of a lot of homes that went so far beyond the basic meaning of "home" that it was stupid. No one needs that kind of space. Not even the rich and famous. I remember one of the homes was owned by Kenny Rogers (country music singer) anad it was close to what I would have liked at that time. But again it was in the millions. No point in doing more than dreaming about it. But I had time to look at a couple of magazines worth of these kind of homes. When I was first introduced to the dinar, and the possibilities it held (and hopefully still holds) one of my first thoughts was of the kind of expensive real estate I would buy. It would have to have a private air strip, not a large one, just big enough for my husband's small planes, and maybe the odd small jet belonging to an Arabian prince or British rock star (hahaha). I no longer need the air strip, and no longer prefer a place close to a very expensive country club with exquisite golf course, because I no longer have Neil to make use of those things. But for myself, I don't think I would want any of those really expensive homes now. I would like a home now that is wheelchair accessible, which is a far cry from a home that is on a private beach at least three miles long. But there are a few things I would like. A pool, indoor, but in my dreams it would have a large wall that rolled up like the roll-up doors of a mechanic's garage, that would open the entire stupidly large pool space to the outside where there would be a patio area with BBQ pit, great sunset view, and maybe even a part of the pool that goes out past the wall and becomes an outdoor pool. Yup, I have been thinking about this for a while ... since I thought that the dinar would hit big, hit soon, and hit me. That is partly why I bought the amount of dinar that I did. I wanted to be able to build or buy and renovate a home that is close to perfection, thought I will settle for the wow rather than the WOW. hahaha I also want a kitchen, pool and game room, in-home theatre, bathroom that isn't just a bathroom but a bathing room, complete with warm water plunge and massage bench, rather like the bathing rooms of the sultans and sheiks of old, bathing being a custom that was taken very seriously. All of these things I have seen in movies. It might take a while to find all the movies, but I think my memory on this is good enough that a few days of describing what I want to an architectural artist (which I was on a small scale for a while just out of art school) and a really forward thinking architect, they would know what it is I want. The only thing that is stopping me from dreaming about sandy beaches in tropic climes, and multi-level castles with towers and balconies in the alps, is the need to be wheelchair accessible. Oh, the multi-level places would be fine if I can install an elevator. But that isn't something that can be done in just any home. As much as I talk too much, especially with my fingers in places like this forum, I am also a very good listener. My dad was a builder and almost anything about building or renovating or restoring I find interesting. I have so often heard the professionals talking about the problems of bringing an old place up to code, like those gorgeous castles or estate homes with several stories and wings. And problems there are. Most of them cannot safely be modernized, and livable for this century. They just don't conform in ways that make that possible. So, I have stopped dreaming about those kinds of homes. They would be great to have, until the plumbing sprung a leak, or the heating system fails, and the fix was going to cost hundreds of thousands. Now I dream about building my own home. Something discrete. It will have all the bells and whistles I want, but it would not be ostentatious. A lavish kitchen for an in-house cook, pool and game room, computer and communications nook, perhaps elements of the in-home theatre, a walk-in pool of some kind. one wing of the house set aside for living quarters for staff (of about four) and the specialist staff that visit but don't live with me full time. Oh, and cat friendly too. That's it. It that can be handled by purchasing, okay. But if not, then we build. And hope to outlive the construction, furnishing and landscaping stages. So, I am now living with the constant hope that the Iraqis or others who are responsible for getting the dinar revalued to our benefit will GET OFF THE POT !!! A place in the country with the outward look ofa log cabin gone wild ... that would be okay too ... just thinking ... smee2

Central bank governor: We reject the accusations against the banks that deal with the World Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:31 am "....Denied the Iraqi Central Bank Governor Shabibi force the Iraqi dinar has been affected by the process of lifting the zeroes that the central bank implemented during the coming period, noting that the process of lifting the zeroes will be gradual and thoughtful it without having any negative impact on the Iraqi currency.//" http://al-iraqnews.net/new/local-news/14286.html IF delete 3 zeros is a LOP, how do you LOP gradually. One zero at a time...?

These articles come and they go. RV,or RD. At the present it's like the Gurus attempting to pick a rate and date. The fact is, none of us know for sure what they are gonna do, because it seems that these people would walk a mile just to tell a lie. Just be patient, wait and see. If they say "this year", then maybe your Grandchildren will be around to handle whatever transaction needs to occur.

So what was the weather like.... my bad, I sound like Shabs Couldn't resist.

Wife in the Know was more than likely one of the fictional realities created by one of the paid pumpers at D inar R ecaps. This was done to spur dinar sales and click ad revenue of the website owner. So you are wanting to hear from someone who does not exist.

You should probly find someone else to listen to.....she doesnt know anymore about the dinar then my dog......

Thats pretty cool patty. But the clowns knocker theory beats it hands on, I mean down

Liboy I can tell you we have as big a gang problem here as anywhere in the country, especially with the Mexican cartels right here. Those statistics show how taking away the rights of people to own guns turns into disaster. Numbers don't lie, liberal politicians do.

....Donald says the bunch in the basket is just my chunky wobbly bits. and the link you are looking for is his hands.

While I'm definitely a pro-RV person, I think the article is talking about a LOP and a redenomination rather than a RV - and whether or not you a pro-LOP or pro-RV (or if you're pro-whatever-it-takes-for-a-big-payoff) is irrespective of that fact. Even though I personally think there's a lot of intel out there that either (at most) suggest RV or (at least) does not limit a RV possibility, I cannot ignore the plain factual reality that the vast majority of news articles and other "official" statements we see are centered around the deletion of zeros and replacement of currency. I do have to admit it, but that does not mean I have to accept it as the only possibility for the future. What I have been trying to educate myself on lately is whether or not a LOP/RD and a RV (or gradual appreciation) are mutually exclusive, and I do not believe they are. To think Iraq would only LOP/RD and then be done with it is a level of shortsightedness that defies logic. Why on earth would anyone disregard Iraq's serious potential? War-time instability is just that - instability during war-time. The landscape war creates is an uncertain one, and recovery takes time. It is preposterous to me that people think this will be Iraq's existence in perpetuity. Stability will come. And, when it does, so will the prosperity. What they do in the meantime with their currency - even a LOP/RD - is irrespective of the future prosperity. It is that long term goal that people need to be thinking about rather than the short-term goals achieved via LOP/RD. A valuable Iraqi currency is going to happen, and they are taking definitive strides necessary to foster it. Don't get bogged down in the weeds of their seedling policy or you will miss the long-term staging they're doing right now. It may be that a RV is not the short-term goal, maybe that goal is a LOP/RD - but their long term goal is a positive monetary policy that brings with it a valuable Iraqi currency for all the reasons EVERY country has the same goal for their own currency. That is their goal. They are not going to put into practice policies right now that will prevent them from reaching that goal in the future. You don't have to have a PhD in Economics to see this. You do not even have to be someone with a background in Finance or Investing. You just have to be someone who doesn't think in a binary way.

White Rhino? So my wife is invested.......

Do you have a link? According to Frank, its a bunch in the basket!

Well then try this one on for size, "Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord" you can do it now or from the pits of hell, either way, you'll do it!

Dog53, "The postman always rings twice"! It started in Calif, when a script would be sent out and if it was received well, a post card would be returned announcing the acceptance. The postman would alert the writer by ringing the doorbell twice. It means "good-news" is coming!!! Woohoo!!!

Mailman has ALWAYS been very balanced & ALWAYS slams the BS. I think this thing is ready to pop myself. Go RV

This might be the only bank screen rumor I am inclined to think is true. The idea that a bank would have the IQD as a currency with a zero value makes MUCH more sense than any of the other bank rumor stories I've heard. The question this puts in my head is how many other currencies are also in their system in this way? Comparing and contrasting those would be wonderful intel, actually.

Maybe it was a lesson in complying with authority no matter how stupid the authorities may be.

Hate to say it but believe he s telling the truth. This guy SLAMS all the rumors and hates BS. For him to say this in public rings true to me just because he always debunks BS.

Just a small log cabin . But I think I could make do.

CBI subtracting zeros from the local currency 14/4/2013 11:45:00 Print Deleting three zeros from the local currency Said parliamentary Finance Committee, the central bank, according to correspondences official start of this year procedures deleting three zeros from the local currency, saying that it would lead to the development of cash transactions and international economic. A member of the Finance Committee Abdul Hussein al-Yasiri Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network, said, "according to Almkhtabat official with the central bank, it is supposed to start this year Balastaadadt necessary to delete three zeros from the local currency. " He Yasiri, that "the local currency will reduce from four billion units to one billion units which will make there Anciabh in the process of the transfer of currency." and between Yasiri , that "the Finance Committee supports changes to the local currency because of the importance of the country's economic." The central bank says that the deletion of zeros comes within the plan for the development of monetary policy and the reform of currency management. and was a member of the Finance Committee parliamentary Haitham al-Jubouri, had said in an earlier statement to him that "replacement currency and delete Ocefarha will features the best and the biggest decrease of the volume of inflation and revive the dinar due to lack of demand for the dollar, which comes positive aspects significant to the economy of the country, and replaced revive economy Alibd but needs political environment and economic environment for the implementation of the project without facing any obstacles lead to the deterioration of the currency Iraqi ". was the Iraqi Central Bank had indicated in August that it plans to delete the zeros from the Iraqi dinar to facilitate financial transactions made ​​through cash in most cases. Among the difficulties faced by Iraq if they are to foot the deletion of zeros from the dinar is withdrawn about 30 trillion dinars in circulation in the Iraqi market, then discarded and replaced with a new currency.

OK...here we go again. You guys have all heard the scuttlebutt about it now happening on Monday the 15th. . Well actually some are actually saying the RV has happened already on April 1, yeh April fools day, but it just wont show until the 15th tomorrow. Yet some goo rews are putting out there own safety net as we get closer to the 15th saying that ....yep you got it right...it now will not go past the "End of April". Now which is it the the 15th or the end of April? By the way didt they say this the same time last year?? Well what I said last year and what I am still saying today is...they don't know shik and never have. There contacts have been wrong for years yet they still go back to these same contacts for the same bad intel. Folks just saying don't get your hopes up but just be ready when and if it does happen anytime soon. Bottom line beware of the goo rew :cigar:because the are full of goo!

"The important thing here is they speak as if the larger 3 zero notes must be removed before (or at least most of them). Again, supporting the theory that they will remove the currency before raising the value." How do you remove the currency without raising the value? That's nonsense. Doesn't he understand the concept of supply and demand?

How are you equating murder with child abuse? What are you saying, that some one might be abused so lets just murder them. Seriously, not trying to be sarcastic here but what's the point? This nation is so far gone they don't even know it. You can call yourself a liberal or an conservative, but what you have done is allowed your people to murder it very own children in the name of convenience. The profits of Baal tried this and it didn't work out to well for them either. You are so blinded as a nation that you can't see what is before your eyes. But that was said in the Bible too, for I will send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie. The souls of every single child murdered is at this time crying to God for justice and sooner than you think you will get it.

Why? They are reporting factual statistics. This isn't an opinion piece from a blog. If these statements were not 100% accurate, the NRA and other pro gun grops would be all over it. Facts are facts.

In all honesty ANY child abuse is WRONG...in THAT I agree with you...HOWEVER....FEW seem to know the true history of Margret Sanger Harris (Founder of Planned Parenthood, friend of Adolf Hitler, labelled the FATHER of American Eugenics) and Planned Parenthood....her plans and methods are still being carried out to the tune of over 35 million that's approaching 3 times what Hitler & WWII killed...and my point was it is now SANCTIONED because it's done in a sterile environment....it is STILL CHILD MURDER....GOD who "changes not"...says HE HATES it....to look the other way because of other forms of child abuse that exist is LUDICROUS...I believe America is in GRAVE danger because we have turned a blind eye and a deaf ear to ALL the things that GOD says are wrong !

go to google and type in removal of zeros or deletion of zeros on a currency and tell me what comes up. in all my results i get is redenomination i don't know about you but it sounds like there only 1 meaning. you say there are several meaning to removal of zeros on currency can you give me a few links

I think that is a misread. The cited article's translation is about a LOP and a redenomination - and what also sounds like a 4:1 RV...but, when I really think about the context in which that bizarre statement is made of reducing 4 billion units to 1 billion units...I'm not sure it means a RV. Instead of a RV, I think they may be saying they are trying to go from having 4 billion pieces of paper currency in circulation to 1 billion pieces of paper currency in circulation. That interpretation is more in line with the context, an interpretation about it pointing to a RV does not - especially because they did not say they were looking to increase - they said they were looking to reduce. That is, of course, entirely dependent upon the quality of the translation - and makes me wish, yet again, that I could read Arabic.

Rsskelton, respectfully, I agree. We are all entitled to our own opinions. I was simply trying to give helpful information which could better help one to have an informed opinion. I have no enemies here. We are all in this together. I didn't mean to come off any other way.

Sorry but I believe the reason why profs are liberal is because they don't have to live in the real world where performance dictates job security. There is no such thing as tenure in the real world. I must produce and do so daily or I loose what I have..... Period. In my younger days, I taught science on the collegiate level and on the high school level and I came to the realization that the old saying "Those who can do... Those who can't teach" is based on reality.

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White Rhino's Point Of View: 4-13-13 White Rhino: There are many variables to the value of a currency. Debt, resources, exports, infrastructure. In a Global reset going forward, the future valuation of Global currencies (According to the IMF) will weigh heavily on resources. - Almost ALL of Iraq's debt has been forgiven - In 1979 Iraq was exporting 3.5 Million Barrels of OIL per day and the Dinar was 3.21 - As of December 2012 Iraq IS exporting over 3.15 Million Barrels of Oil per day - Iraq has surpassed Iran in regard to KNOWN Oil reserves - Based on scientific information (Research it) Iraq is believed to have the Largest Oil Reserves in the World - In 1979 Natural Gas was burned off to get to Iraqi Oil = 0% value - In 2012-13 Iraq is exporting Natural Gas and has the potential to be the Largest exporter of Natural Gas in the World (Research it) - Iraq has the Largest Fresh Water reserves in ALL of the Middle East and is currently selling and exporting bottled water - Iraq has the potential to be one of the Worlds Largest agricultural producers / exporters - Iraq has untapped GOLD reserves - Iraq is the HUB between the two Largest developing CONTINENTS of Africa and Asia - Iraq (Mesopotamia) has MOST of the Oldest, most Historic Tourism Sites of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam in the World worth Billions... - Iraq is wide open to new Business, new Technology and is growing by leaps and bounds everyday (http://www.Iraqibusinessnews -Follow it) - Iraq's current customers include China, Russia, Turkey, India, Indonesia, Jordan, Egypt, Japan, etc... - It costs $5.00 a Barrel of Sweet Crude Oil to be pumped from just below the surface by conventional means - It costs $65.00 a Barrel for Shale Oil to be pumped using high tech horizontal drilling equipment in the US * Every Global Government is devaluing it's currency, the US prints 80 Billion a month, Global Banks are essentially Insolvent, governments are in deep debt, the Chinese have been conducting currency swaps with new nations since 2003 (Latest is France) pushing international trade further away from the US dollar. The Global International Banksters (Rothschilds who own the Iraqi Central Bank and the FED - Do the research) need an Iraqi RV / Global Currency reset (Making GOLD a Tier commodity as a currency) to recapitalize their Central Banks. Who do you think has been pushing the IMF, the UN, the WBO, the BIS, the US, regarding the growth and financial movement in Iraq? The Central Banks and the United States have TRILLIONS of Dinar. The basic Iraqi people have none. * If the development of Iraq was left to the Iraqi's it would NEVER happen. If it was left up to the weighted down with debt US Government it would NEVER happen. The Bankster button pushers control them all (Do the research and start with ethe history of the WallStreet Banks & the Rothschilds). The Central Banks control the currencies, PERIOD. Everyone else is indebted to them. A Reval of the Iraqi dinar at its current rate in a free float doesn't benefit the Banksters and makes no sense. The Banksters make the rules. They have intervened, manipulated, and corrupted the Global Financial system. War, Bribery, and Murder are their greatest tools. The Banksters do not care about Iraq or Iraqi's. They don't even care about Iraqi Law. They control the currency through the CBI. The Banksters want to eventually inflate their currency and steal their resources. If the Iraqi Dinar Revals, it will be at a rate that benefits the Banksters and the Central Banks and you can bet it will be at least $3.21 when you consider the devaluation of the World's Reserve Currency, the Almighty US FIAT Dollar... They have been controlling the currency in the USA since 1913 and the US Dollar has lost 95% of it's value in that time (Do the research). If they could do it in the USA, they certainly can do it in IRAQ. Do you honestly believe that the Iraqi Dinar isn't worth at least $1.00 RIGHT NOW?

I have been following Mailman for around 3 yrs. now and his posts are very conservative >I was quite shocked myself when I read this recent post. It would be easy enough to pull up all of his past opinions, fact checks etc.. I sit with baited breath ( whatever that means).

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