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With all the threads questioning the very existence of GOD, along with the “science vs GOD” debates complete with the ensuing verbal gymnastics I wanted to toss the NDE* hat in the ring so to speak. My own “exposure” with the subject matter : Near Death Experiences* comes from my long time friend and co-author Gary Habermas, PHD(expert scholar in extra-Biblical evidence for the resurrection; author Beyond Death); my dear friend the late Dr. Richard Eby (Obstetrician-Founder of Park Hospital) (author: Caught Up Into Paradise, Tell Them, Tell Them, Tell Them & Didn’t You Read My Book) and a number of other books that I have read on the subject by many authors; among them Moody, Ring, Kubler-Ross and Piper to name only a few. I have heard the testimony of a heart surgeon who started his search for God following a startling negative NDE by a patient who he brought back on the operating table several times during a rough open heart surgical procedure. The patient said repeatedly,” Doc don’t let me die ! I’m in hell !!” As well as a logger pulled from a river in Seattle at least 45 minutes after a "fatal" accident, with a crushed skull and no water in his lungs. He too was in hell, right up to the moment he saw Jesus walking across a huge gap....and cried out to Him for mercy. Dr Eby on the other hand had a powerful and vivid positive experience which he shared everywhere until the time of his second passing. His story carried more weight IMO because he himself was an MD. His main thrust was the clear understanding he was sent back to “ Tell Them….” (the title of his second book concerning his NDE) One DISCLAIMER: the purpose of this post is food for thought…I have no plans to get drawn into a knock-down drag-out verbal battle on this subject. IMO NDE’s are a scientific fact…and the interpretation of why they are, what they mean, what causes them are the stuff of way too much “private interpretation” as it is. That being said, I present strictly for your “pondering” the following: a) How Jesus of Nazareth described the story of one Lazarus- a beggar in Lk 16: 19- 31 the definitions of the two recorded types of NDE and c) the desire of God for mankind as found in 2Pe_3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Recently I was amazed listening to the story of Colton Burpo on morning television tell of his own NDE at the ripe old age of 4 ! (Heaven Is For Real !)….perhaps the most convincing detail of all was his mention of a baby sister who was in heaven (miscarriage he could not have know about)…and relatives who he never met who had pre-deceased him as well. This was not Christian TV either. This was on the Today Show…. Enjoy ! Luk 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: Luk 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, Luk 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. Luk 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. Luk 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Luk 16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: Luk 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Luk 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. Luk 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. Luk 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. ** The NDE transcends gender, age, class, and religious affiliation. As well as those subjects who take part in research studies, many famous people have lived to tell of their Near Death Experience. Mikhail Gorbachev, Roseanne Barr, George Lucas, Debra Winger and Donald Sutherland have experienced NDEs. The once fiery Louis Farrakhan attributes his kinder, gentler message of unity and peace to an NDE. Singer Della Reese, star of the TV series Touched by an Angel and an ordained minister, believes that she encountered angels in a brush with death that occurred due to a burst brain aneurysm. While the details of Near Death Experiences may differ, many share a common thread. Yet, there are two distinct types of NDE—positive and negative. Researchers estimate that one in ten people have some sort of NDE after surviving a life-threatening event.5 The Negative Near Death Experience To those who have experienced a negative NDE, the process of dying is, indeed, hellish. People visit dark places, encounter demonic beings, and experience feelings of grief, depression, and fear.1 P.M.H. Atwater, a longtime NDE researcher reports that about 15 percent of adults and 3 percent of children enter "a threatening void or stark limbo or hellish purgatory," sometimes including "hauntings" from the past.7 One of the most vivid portrayals of such a hellish death is in the movie Ghost, where the earth literally opens a passage for the minions of hell to assail the evildoer and pull him into the bowels of the earth. Joyce Harvey, a 75-year-old retired CID officer from Essex experienced such a negative NDE. While recovering from a chest infection, Ms. Harvey began having breathing problems. Suddenly she was paralyzed by cold. "I started going down and down in a life, with someone pulling my legs which were really hot," she said. "There were terrible noises, discordant notes, and screaming. I could see thousands of faces without bodies beneath me; they were trying to pull me down further and further. I was terrified."4 The Positive Near Death Experience Often a positive near death experience begins when the person feels his or her consciousness separate and rise from the physical body. During this "out of body" experience (OBE), the subject is totally aware of the activity in the room below. Journalist Neil Marr remembered "watching over the shoulders of doctors and nurses as they hovered" around his bed as he lay with no heartbeat after undergoing a series of five heart attacks.7 Often, the second stage of a positive NDE finds the subject traveling through a tunnel towards a bright light. However, the type of tunnel varies from report to report with descriptions such as a tunnel of tiny stars, spirals of light, the inside of a sewer pipe, or an underground cave.7 Some people meet a deceased friend or relative who either takes them through the tunnel or meets them at the tunnel's end while others give their guides a celestial presence describing them as guardian angels or beings of light. Some people "return to their bodies" never seeing a tunnel, some are pulled back to "life" while journeying through the tunnel, and some are "sent back" by their guide. Those who pass through the tunnel may go on to other experiences. Many report a sensation of being enveloped by love, peace, and joy. Some subjects undergo a "life review" where they experience both the joy and the mental anguish generated by their earthly actions. Some are "judged" by one or more religious figures while others experience self-judgment as they absorb a feeling of infinite understanding and heightened intellectual abilities. Hmmm the very Words of Jesus of Nazareth fulfilled in a generation of unbelief **…..IMO GOD loves mankind….gave His only Son to restore fellowship with His creation and such experiences have touched many lives.

A young mother was wishing to encourage her young son's progress on the piano, so she took the small boy to a Paderewski concert. After they were seated, the mother spotted a friend in the audience and walked down the aisle to greet her since she hasn't spoken to her in a while. The little boy sat and looked at the magnificient concert hall and imagined himself playing here one day. He decided he would explore the wonders of such a wonderful place, so he rose from his seat and eventually explored his way through a door marked "NO ADMITTANCE". When the house lights started to dim and the stage curtain was about to open, the mother returned to her seat and discovered that her son was missing. Upon looking around everywhere the curtain began to open and the stage lights came on bright focusing on the huge Steinway piano on stage. In horror, the mother saw her little boy sitting at the keyboard, innocently picking the keys in the tune of "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star." At that moment, the great piano master made his grand entrance all smiles andwuickly moved to the piano and whispered in the boy's ear, Don't quit, keep playing. Then leaning over, Paderewski reached down with his left hand and begin filling in a bass part. Soon his right arm reached around to the other side of the child and he added a running obligatio. Together, the old master and the young novice transformed a frightning situation into a wonderfully creative experience. The audience was so mesmerized they gave a standing ovation. That's the way it is with God, what we try to accomplish on our own is hardly noteworthy. We try our best, but the results aren't exactly graceful flowing music. But with the hand of the master our life's work can truly be beautiful. The next time you set out to accomplish something grand, listen carefully, you can hear the voice of the Master, whispering in your ear, "Dont quit, Keep on playing and let me help you." You will feel his loving arms reach around you and help you accomplish sweet and beautiful. Remember, God doesn't call the equipped, he equipes the called. Enjoy and have a blessed day.

Here are some interesting facts on Romney, I've said before he wasn't my favorite candidate but he is one heck of a business man, and I respect that. Being a business owner it takes a lot of understanding how to make a business run and much more to make it grow, the government is no different anything that is not ran effectively and efficiently needs to get the axe. Everyone whining about his off shore accounts needs to stop being haters and become congratulaters. Actually even this site has tons of info on offshore accounts and so do many others so if you don't agree with his business ethics it's the pot calling the kettle black. None of us want to pay anymore taxes than we absolutely have to. I don't care how much money he has stashed or where it is, he has helped the country grow unlike our current POTUS. Great read, I just wish there was one comparing it directly to Obama ROFLMAO. Personal Information: His full Name is: Willard Mitt Romney He was Born: March 12, 1947 and is 65 years old. His Father: George W. Romney, former Governor of the State of Michigan He was raised in Bloomfield Hills , Michigan He is Married to Ann Romney since 1969; they five children. Education: B.A. from Brigham Young University, J.D. and M.B.A. from Harvard University Religion: Mormon - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Working Background: After high school, he spent 30 months in France as a Mormon missionary. After going to both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar exam, but never worked as an attorney. In 1984, he co-founded Bain Capital a private equity investment firm, one of the largest such firms in the United States . In 1994, he ran for Senator of Massachusetts and lost to Ted Kennedy. He was President and CEO of the 2002 Winter Olympic Games. In 2002, he was elected Governor of the State of Massachusetts where he eliminated a 1.5 billion deficit. Some Interesting Facts about Romney: Bain Capital, starting with one small office supply store in Massachusetts, turned it into Staples; now over 2,000 stores employing 90,000 people. Bain Capital also worked to perform the same kinds of business miracles again and again, with companies like Domino's, Sealy, Brookstone, Weather Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group, Dollarama, Home Depot Supply, and many others. He was an unpaid volunteer campaign worker for his dad's gubernatorial campaign 1 year. He was an unpaid intern in his dad's governor's office for eight years. He was an unpaid bishop and stake president of his church for ten years. He was an unpaid President of the Salt Lake Olympic Committee for three years. He took no salary and was the unpaid Governor of Massachusetts for four years. He gave his entire inheritance from his father to charity. Mitt Romney is one of the wealthiest self-made men in our country but has given more back to its citizens in terms of money, service and time than most men. And in 2011 Mitt Romney gave over $4 million to charity, almost 19% of his income.... Just for comparison purposes, Obama gave 1% and Joe Biden gave $300 or .0013%. Mitt Romney is Trustworthy: He will show us his birth certificate He will show us his high school and college transcripts. He will show us his social security card. He will show us his law degree. He will show us his draft notice. He will show us his medical records. He will show us his income tax records. He will show us he has nothing to hide. Mitt Romney's background, experience and trustworthiness show him to be a great leader and an excellent citizen for President of the United States. You may think that Romney may not be the best representative the Republicans could have selected. At least I know what religion he is, and that he won't desecrate the flag, bow down to foreign powers, or practice fiscal irresponsibility. I know he has the ability to turn this financial debacle that the current regime has gotten us into. We won't like all the things necessary to recover from this debt, but someone with Romney's background can do it. But, on the minus side, He never was a "Community Organizer", never took drugs or smoked pot, never got drunk, did not associate with communists or terrorists, nor did he attend a church whose pastor called for God to damn the US. I wasn't aware of how big Bain is, it certainly has some heavy hitters he has helped. Like I said at the start he wasn't my favorite but no one can deny he is a smart business man.

--- IN GOD WE TRUST GOD BLESS AMERICA Plato had it down... "One of the penalties of not participating in politics is that you will be governed by your inferiors." Plato Best explanation of what is happening in America that I have heard! Please pass this on, it may actually make folks think! CAN THE USA SURVIVE GIVEN THE FOLLOWING? The folks who are getting free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff. The folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to stop, and the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting! Now... The people who are forcing the people to pay for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff, that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff, are being mean, prejudiced, and racist. So... The people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff, and giving them the free stuff in the first place. We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff. Now understand this. All great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The reason? The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them. Thomas Jefferson said it best: "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." The United States officially became a Democracy in 1776, 235 years ago. The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have one chance to change that On Nov 6th, 2012. Failure to change that spells the end of the United States as we know it. ELECTION 2012 IS COMING A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves! I'M 100% for PASSING THIS ON!!! Let's take a stand!!! Obama: Gone! Borders: Closed! Language: English only Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights! Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare! NO freebies to: Non-Citizens! We the people are coming

[Adam Montana] Good morning everyone! [Adam Montana] Here's the latest: Iraq is giving more and more hints that they may NOT be following the proposed agenda to "delete the zeros" and there is also a great article posted that puts the button directly in Shabibbi's control. [Adam Montana] I will link to all of these articles on my blog dinarspeculation.com shortly after this chat, you will be able to see the articles there in about a half hour [Adam Montana] We are also seeing some great news about Chapter 7. Until Iraq has the Chapter 7 issue resolved, we cannot expect to see the value of the Dinar raise (at least not significantly, anyway). [Adam Montana] So to summarize that: Shabibbi is implicated as head button-pusher (this is good!), they are starting to show weakness in their "resolve" to "delete the zeros" (this is good!) and the Chapter 7 issue is ready to buckle once and for all (this is also good!) [Adam Montana] The only bad news I have is that we still have to wait. Sorry about that [Adam Montana] ok, kcw - before you lose power, let's do those Q's! [kcw] rightsonword In regards to the ISX, if there is an RV of any amount, we make money. But in the case of bunny-ear, how long before considerable gains are made in your opinion. I would assume that after this whole currency fiasco is done and over with that Iraq's economy should begin to grow rapidly to some extent due to the stability, or at least "perceived" stability, that the ND would bring to the financial, economic sectors, government, etc. [Adam Montana] In my opinion, you are 100% correct in your assessment of the situation and how the ISX fits in. So the question is "how long before we see profits after a l0p or an RV?" [Adam Montana] Let's start with "worst case scenario". We see the dreaded (lop) bunny-ear, all of our cash values are reset to a neutral value, and we are forced to wait for the value to grow naturally. In this case, I'm looking at about 6 months before things really start to grow. After that 6 month period, I would expect to see MAJOR growth, giving me 2-3-4-5x my investment. Not what I am hoping for, but it's sure better than what my 401k has done over the last 5 years! [Adam Montana] Best case scenario: We see a major rise in the value of the Iraqi Dinar, Iraq's economy is kick-started with a serious shot of jet fuel, and the ISX values outperform even the value of the rapidly strengthening Dinar. Quite honestly - this potential upside is what I love about being involved in the ISX and the IQD in general. Yes, there is a potential downside... but the upside possibilities are staggering and I am not going to simply ignore it. [Adam Montana] good question, I hope my answer helps! Next please [kcw] Redhorse Adam, can you verify if Iraqs' sovereignty is complete and if so…. [Adam Montana] Nope, it's not. They are still under a couple pieces of Chapter 7. Until Chapter 7 is COMPLETELY removed, they are not sovereign. [Adam Montana] next please! [kcw] CO.5-0 Hello Adam, thanks for the reality and logically based forum..... ..since sanctions weren't lifted in June, and a lot of us are of the opinion that sanctions must be lifted for any type of rv/ internationally recognized currency, then is it still realistic to even look for anything between now and December??? [Adam Montana] I think it's realistic, yes. Every day we are seeing more and more articles about Iraq's progress and their determination to make improvements in their economy, government, and value of their currency. I'm not going to blow smoke up your butt and tell you that it's likely to happen tomorrow... but that doesn't mean it CAN'T happen tomorrow. It could, it might, or it might not. There is nothing set in concrete stopping it. [Adam Montana] next please! [kcw] Saint Morning Adam. Just a thought that keeps coming back to me concerning the RV. Not to fret I am still on the train that will be arriving at the station in September. I have a funny feeling the RV is going to hit after the Iraqi's see who is going to be the next president of the USA. I really can't explain it but it's there . Do you think the presidential election in November has any bearing on the RV outcome. Just saying. Thanks again for keeping us well grounded and in tune with the true reality of this investment. [Adam Montana] I understand the feeling... but I think Iraq is more concerned with Iraq than they are with the US. Will our elections have an impact? Absolutely yes! Will Iraq wait for the outcome? I doubt it. If they were to do that, they wouldn't RV immediately after the outcome is announced... they would have to wait and see what happens AFTER the decision is made. Who knows what Obama or Romney will do in the following 30 days, 60 days, or year after they are elected? [Adam Montana] No, Iraq is focused on Iraq. When they are in the right position and their ducks are reasonable in place, that's when it will happen. [Adam Montana] next please! [kcw] Redwizard Adam, with all the talk of deleting the zero's, and a 1:1, how can we make money at this? If 1 million dinar becomes 1000 and a 1:1, that will give $1,000 USD then bank spreads and taxes, we will be lucky to break even. What is the use of protecting our big investment? I just dont see anything to protect. Thanks for any info. [Adam Montana] Redwizard, that has always been a possibility. The question is "WILL they do that?" Personally, it makes more sense to me that they will do something that gives them financial gain. If THEY gain on the value of the Dinar, then so do we. [Adam Montana] next please! [kcw] cashman54 Adam, you the man. ... I was looking at the Wall Street Journal this morning and I noticed some of the other currency rates in the Middle East (This information is found in Market and Data section of Money and Investing) Kuwait Dinar = $3.555 Bahrain Dinar = $2.67 Jordan Dinar = $1.4127 Saudia Arabia riyal = $0.2667 Egypt pound = $0.1650 What I was just curious about is although I am sure these countries have wealth and resources too, it can't be a whole lot better than Iraq right? That just leads me to believe that Iraq deserves to have a decent currency rate you know? Wouldn't you agree that Iraq has more wealth than at least one of these countries and deserves to have a rate at least equivalent to Egypt? Would love to know your thoughts. Thank you for taking my question. [Adam Montana] I do agree! Iraq does have more natural resources and definitely should have a currency valued at or higher than a country like Egypt. That's another reason I'm hanging onto my IQD [Adam Montana] next please! [kcw] jon29 Hey Adam! As a break from the usual dinar questions, have you taken the family out for a Summer getaway yet? How'd it go? Have a good day dude! [Adam Montana] Thanks jon29 - the family and I had a great holiday, even with the 100+ temps! You have a great day too [Adam Montana] next please! [kcw] Nadita Adam, This is definitely not a question regarding dinar but involves the technical support of the site...I have not been able to sign into DV with iphone just the last three days. I can sign in but when I click on my profile or what's new, it sends me back to the log in page and also the scrolling paper can't be closed Will appreciate if you can check into this... thank you [Adam Montana] Get the google chrome app from the app store - I just got it this morning and tested, I was able to login from my iPhone. [Adam Montana] next please! [kcw] imgesing Adam, The articles have come out now, as it did over a year ago comparing this to Turkey's RD. Can you please explain how it might be similar or dissimilar? What do we trust and what should we be looking at to affirm the potential value of the future dinar? Thanks for all you have done and thank you in advance. [Adam Montana] Lots of people will compare Iraq to Turkey simply to back up their negative points. True, there are some similarities... but the big picture is very different. Iraq is NOT Turkey, so we can't expect them to make the same choices Turkey made. The lopsters will deny that, but... there's a good reason I don't spend much time talking to lopsters [Adam Montana] next please! [kcw] jon29 Hi Adam, one question and please bear with me since I'm not a whiz with this stuff. There have been discussions from time to time about the currency Revaluation and Iraq being able to back it up. One school of thought is hard currency, reserve money, cash "on-hand" backing up the dinar to improve the rate. Another, is the geological assets (like oil in the ground), being calculated to back up a new rate. Which or both of these ideas would be correct with Iraq improving the dinar to a new rate? I hope this isn't remedial and off-base. Thanks. [Adam Montana] Don't worry about being a whiz at this stuff - it's not 2nd grade material, it's complicated and there is a lot of room for confusion. [Adam Montana] Regarding Iraq's "cash on hand", geological assets, etc... let's just back up and compare apples to apples. Why do people insist that they have to have "cash on hand" to back up an RV when the US doesn't even follow that guideline? The US does NOT have gold, assets, or "cash" to back up the "value" of our monetary system. The debt we have IS part of the "value" of our money, it is on our balance sheet. Ever since we left the gold standard our "value" has basically been given to us by China and every other country that we owe money to based on one thing: CREDIT. [Adam Montana] So, if the US doesn't have to have "cash on hand" to back up our debts, why does Iraq? [Adam Montana] Quite simply, they are not "credit worthy" at this time due to recent instability of the government and their whole situation in general [Adam Montana] is that changing? YES. Do they have an amazing amount of assets to back up a higher valued currency? YES. Can the entire world benefit from a higher valued Iraqi Dinar? YES. [Adam Montana] Hope that helps! That was the last question. I'm going to close the official chat down so the mods can get it up on the site for all to see, and I'll go post those articles on dianrspeculation.com for anyone who wishes to do more research [Adam Montana] have a great day everyone, and GOOOOOOOOO RVVVVVVVVVV!!!!!

7-12-2012 Freebird: Anyone who bothers to research on their own, realizes the first shot we have at seeing this is in September. Unless you pay for a PTR membership, in which case you are either trying to cash in with the "whales" right now or you are expecting a RV to appear at precisely 6:47 pm today with a really, really, really high rate because their amazing contacts who have called the RV every week since the site opened said so. You may say why would the CBI give us an accurate time-frame for a RV by referencing September and January all the time? They aren't saying anything about a revaluation. They aren't referencing the rate at all, they are trying to educate the public a change is coming and using the guise of a "redenomination" articles to conceal their true intentions. Iraq WILL REVALUE and if we're very lucky this will be a historic revaluation, the likes of which the world has never seen. A 100,000% increase from .00085 to .85 is the dream we all signed up for, unless you listen to "gurus" in which case you are holding out for a $42 rate. At .85 that gives Shabibi something to work with and he will use the the market to drive the rate up and eventually I do believe that Iraq will have the highest exchange rate in the M.E. Kaperoni had an excellent post outlining this process recently. It is possible in the next week that Iraq could hold a National Meeting and announce the Ministers (permanent, not interim), Strategic Council, implement Erbil and HCL but not likely. As usual Parliament's latest attendance numbers were abysmal. Last showing was around 50%. I do believe deals are being struck though as we speak, which is why Maliki's opposition has backed down as of late. Most likely, after Ramadan, we'll have a real shot at this. I don't see any way this goes into 2013, which is amazing news for us and we should all feel extremely grateful to be involved. Ignore the usual hypers, their vague analogies and garbage contacts. Do yourself a favor and DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. Keep the faith, this should be over in a few months at the most.

CALLING AN 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' AN "UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT" IS LIKE CALLING A 'DRUG DEALER' AN "UNLICENSED PHARMACIST "

I agree....we all bought into the hype of the whole deal....gotta buy now and buy as much as possible cause this thing is gonna pop! LOL Then you start digging into all the research and information and you start to see this isnt a sure thing.....but we dont know what will end up happening (yet) so thats why I am also holding on...

As the ride getting closer to an end, I realized once the train stops, we will get off the ride and go about our ways to the new ventures we so long want to go and fulfilling our dreams and I might not see most of you in DV site or anywhere. I am going to miss a lot of you but just know you have touched my heart and my life with your unique and special ways and have enriched my life, therefore I want to say to all DV family that I have met in the forum or chat "THANK YOU" for being a friend From the bottom of my heart, I would like to say "THANK YOU" to one and the only Mr. Adam Montana for creating this site and have not limited the use of the site to dinar investment only but it has become a community for all of us to mingle and share about our beloved investments, lives, prayers, jokes, music, politics, support and encouragements and everything else in between as allowable by you and the mods To all the Mods - you rock and thank you for babysitting us while we play in the playground I know it's a sacrifice of love and time Let's not make the end of the ride an end without a bang lol... let's party in VEGAS God bless and love you all Mod, I am sorry I didn't realize it's posted in forex section could you please be kind enough to move it to "off topic" section ? Thank you

Umbertino - again with the People's World propaganda? I'm sure the America-hater's at PW would love to see the ObamacareTax be implemented to hasten our demise but WE DON'T WANT IT! Americans prefer free market solutions to our problems - choice and competition. There is NOTHING that ANY government can do that the free market can't do better. Please find another source of information - even the kool aid drinkers spit out this flavor!

I believe God will save us through our Children. I don't mind sharing my son's experience because it was so beautiful and provided such a sense of peace. I lost my Dad in July of 2005 to occular melanoma, six months later I lost my mother in law to uterine cancer. At the same time my husband was undergoing extensive chemo for stage IV melanoma. Since he has passed. He had been diagnosed a few month earlier with 8 tumors in his lungs. It was a time in our lives, that illness and death was consuming our family. My husband was the most amazing man. He was a true warrior when it came to his fight against that dreaded disease. When he was first diagnosed, the melanoma was already stage IV and the doctors only gave him a 20% chance to live 2 months. He lived eight years. He passed away, January 2010. My husband was an engineer and traveled nationally and internationally mostly building and working on cooling systems for refineries. One night while he was out of town, my son, Stanton, asked if he could sleep with me. Of course, I said "yes". When I was just about to doze off, He said, " Mom! Did I ever tell you I dreamed about going to Heaven? I said no. He said " Mom, I went to heaven. I could look down and see all of you sleeping in you beds and I was up in Heaven. When I got up there, Grandpa (my dad) was there Mawma (my mother in-law) was there, Grandma Nan and Grandma Nan's husband." Grandma Nan and my Grandfather raised me until I was 10 years old. My Grandfather died when I was 10 and his loss was like losing my Father. I can't remember talking to Stanton, about my Grandfather. Grandma Nan died when he was 4. I asked him if he talked to my Grandfather and he said yes. He said, " he told me to tell you that he loves you very much." I asked him "what did he look like?" He replied, "he looks a lot like Grandpa (my dad), just older." Then he said, " do you know all of the street are gold and the river s are gold?" " Grandpa and I went fishing on this big golden pond and Grandpa caught a huge silver fish, and all grandpa and uncle George do is play golf and go fishing every day" He went on to ask me, " Do you know when you hurt yourself in Heaven, your skin heals it self, just like that! He said, that he and my neighbors son ( who had died at the age of 17 of a horrible accident) had gone skating on a golden pond. Taylor, my neighbor's son had fallen down and hurt his arm and it healed just like that! He described a few other things like our dog Ziggy was in heaven and a few of my friends who had passed away. I also asked what did it smell like up there? He said "Cake". I aked him what kind of music do they have up there? He said, "wedding music". I asked him "did you see God"? and he replied, "yes". I asked him did God talk to you? He said "yes" I asked what did he say to you? " He told me, " Stanton, your a lucky little boy, be worthy!" Now, I can't tell you how this affected me. I had recently suffered such great loss, and my son’s experience brought great peace into my heart. I truly believe my son went to heaven. There is no way at the age of six he could know all of these things. I have always prayed to and believed in God, but never beat the doors down to get to Church. I have 5 Children ages 34, 31, 24, 21 and 11. They all have different personalities and they all are good kids, but Stanton has such a sweet loving nature about him. I call him my little Angel. There is not a mean bone in his body and I thank God every day for him. (please forgive any typo's)

7-11-2012 Historic Deal: Kurdish opposition signs Erbil deal under Barzani's supervision. Under the auspices of Kurdistan President Barzani, two Kurdish opposition forces of Syria signed a joint statement today in Salahaddin, Erbil, Kurdistan presidential website said. Erbil Statement, as it was named, was signed by Kurdistan National Council of Syria and the National Council of Western Kurdistan. According to the statement the parties should form a joint committee called Kurdish Senior Board which is supposed to draw the general policy for leading the Kurds in the current decisive political situation in Syria.The statement further urges the signatories to stop their media war. Barzani congratulated the opposition parties over the "historic deal" and urged them to unite voices in the face of the current changes in Syria, according to Kurdistan presidential website. The president also demanded the Kurdish opposition representatives not to give up the struggle for the Kurdish ethnic rights which can be achieved only by maintaining unity among the Kurdish political forces and strategic ties with the entire democratic forces across Syria. http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/4/316586/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Thanks for the Post EE. The reference to the movie ghost, reminds me of my oldest brother's testimony. He was lying on a mattress in someone's backyard house, it only had concrete floors, a refrigerator, and a picknick table. I had told him he could no longer stay with me in my apartment because I found needles hidden under the counter of the bathroom sink. He ended up there, and hit bottom with his drug use. He told me about how he wanted to kill himself by od'ing, and how the demon's (He described them as dark shadows like the ones in ghost), were egging him on to kill himself, telling him no one loves him, and just do it. (This always made me wonder, if drug users somehow are able to see into the spirit world.) Anyhow while he was laying on that mattress at his lowest point, he called out to Jesus to save him, and Jesus did. He's been clean ever since. Praise God! -

Thanks for posting this, maybe now we will support Romney. A business man who knows how to create jobs. I don't care how much money he makes. If it is a business decision well then it is.

Here is the best answer I can think of for your question: By the way, for anybody who has seen this post I'm sorry. But I think it speaks for itself and there was no reason to "re-invent the wheel" in regards to this question. **Iraq M2 of 70 Trillion** I then compare the 70 trillion to a 1:1 RV which would equal 70 Trillion USD. M3 Money Supply for Selected Countries: When considering M3, the total money supply (of the world) exceeds US$50.1 trillion! Of this amount, the U.S., Euro-Zone and Japan account for US$33.1 trillion or 66.2% of the total. The following graph shows a cross-country comparison for M3. http://news.goldseek.../1185894180.php What I am wondering is how does Iraq, a war torn country, come out of the gate with a newly revalued currency which now equals more than every other country combined? Iraq's currency would now be worth twice of that of the USA, the Eurozone, as well as Japan combined! Even if Iraq has HALF of the stated money supply, it would make Iraq equal to the Eurozone, the USA, and Japan combined. This is where I find it hard to believe that an overnight 1:1 RV is possible. Even $.10 is pushing it... However, I do feel that a gradual increase in the IQD is possible! This way they could slowly reduce the amount in circulation while increasing the value of each existing currency unit in circulation. Increase oil exports, build up infrastructure, promote growth in the private sector, which will all help to build their countries' overall GDP. This is how a currency gains value in the real world. If Iraq is worth 70 Billion but has 30 Trillion (M1) Dinar in circulation. They could keep that same value ($70 Billion) but make each existing currency unit (IQD) worth more by reducing the overall amount. However, the decrease in currency in circulation needs to be gradual, as well as the increase in the value of the IQD. The reason it needs to be gradual / controlled is so that they maintain inflation. Keeping inflation under control has been one of their biggest priorities during the past 9 years or so, I don't think they want to destroy everything they've worked for just to have a high valued currency overnight. Actually, keeping inflation under control is EVERY CENTRAL BANK'S main priority! Something to think about... Japan's total M2 money supply is equal to 6 Trillion USD Iraq's total M2 Money supply is 70 Trillion IQD equal to 70 Billion USD A $0.10 straight up RV of the IQD would make Iraq's total currency more valuable than Japan! Overnight!!!!! *How can this be justified when Iraq has a GDP of a little more than $100 Billion and Japan has a current GDP of roughly $6 Trillion? This is just absurd to think that a country could do something like this overnight!

During my physical examination, my doctor asked me about my physical activity level. I described a typical day this way: "Well, yesterday afternoon, I took a five hour walk about 7km through some pretty rough terrain. I waded along the edge of a lake. I pushed my way through brambles.I got sand in my shoes, eyes and hair. I avoided standing on a snake. I climbed several rocky hills. I took a few leaks behind some big trees. The mental stress of it all left me shattered. At the end of it all I drank eight beers. Inspired by the story, the doctor said, "You must be one hell of an outdoors man!" "No," I replied, "I'm just a crappy golfer".

First of all, Debts (especially government debts) are very rarely, if ever, payed off in full. Minimum payments are made, kind of like some people and their credit cards, car payments, house payments, etc... Dinar Reserve Currency: This is a little far fetched to say the least. There is certain criteria that must be met. Here are just a few items: Low Inflation & Stable Economy (Iraq has been getting their inflation under control but definitely does not have a "stable" economy on a global scale) A LARGE economy (Iraq's economy is TINY coming in at a little over $100 Billion USD, in fact, that is a joke on a global scale) Financial depth, i.e., large market capitalizaton (the total value of securities issued within its borders), substantial availability of securities for trade on the securities markets, and a non-politicized banking system (Nowhere Close!) A good regulatory framework and strong rule of law (they haven't even seated their entire government after over 2 years...) Network externalities, "which include various international uses [for the country's currency], for example, for pricing, invoicing, or transactions outside the country" (95% exports, not much demand for IQD on an international level) Also, keep in mind that a reserve currency, or anchor currency, is a currency that is held in significant quantities by many governments and institutions as part of their foreign exchange reserves. It also tends to be the international pricing currency for products traded on a global market, and commodities such as Oil, Gold, etc... What is ironic about this is that Iraq is using the USD, EUR, and GBP as THEIR reserves. Not the other way around... We have only heard RUMORS about Governments holding massive amounts of IQD, there is no proof that they are holding IQD. But one thing is for sure, if we are, and they RV their currency, it would look very bad as that would be considered war profiteering! What currency is Oil priced in? USD (Petrodollar) This is huge! Where are the main Gold & Commodity Exchanges? Well, we have the CME, NYMEX, LME, you know what, I'm not going to list them all. Here is a list: http://www.indexmund...round-the-world But the bottom line is, Iraq doesn't have an international commodity exchange. US, Canada, Brazil, London, China, Japan, Australia all have major commodity exchanges. The biggest being US and London. *China actually launched the Shanghai Gold Exchange in 2002. This was after a solid 3 decades of rapid growing and expansion throughout their entire country. Wonder why it took them 30 years to even get that far... Let's talk about their money supply real quick. Iraq has an M1 of roughly 30 Trillion and an M2 of about 70 Trillion or so. If they re-denominate that would take them down to about 30 Billion IQD in circulation. People wonder how can they survive off of only 30 Billion? Well first of all, they have been surviving just fine at this rate for the past 10 years. Actually, they have been increasing their money supply every year so they were operating with less than that for most of the past decade. But it's actually pretty simple, they will operate and grow the same way other countries operate. You print more money as your economy grows expanding the money supply, but in a controlled manner. This is actually known as Expansionary Monetary Policy. I'm going to copy/paste some important information regarding Central Banks below. I actually posted this yesterday but it was in a "LOP" discussion so most probably didn't get a chance to review the info. This is important so please try and soak in as much as possible. Read over it again if you need to! Any Central Bank's main goal is to keep inflation in check, even if they don't come out and directly say it most CB's try to keep inflation at or around 2%. To do this, they use the monetary tools at their disposal, contractionary and expansionary policy. In Iraq's case, they have been using more "expansionary" monetary policies by printing more and more Dinar. Ultimately the value of the IQD is up to the CBI, period. The biggest problem with a significant overnight RV is that it goes against everything a Central Bank stands for as a CB's main goal is to keep inflation in check, they can't do this if 100,000% increases or decreases hit their currency instantaneous! It will crash their currency! Central banks and monetary policy go hand-in-hand, so you can't talk about one without talking about the other. While some of these mandates and goals are shared by the different central banks. Central banks have their own unique set of goals brought on by their distinctive economies. Ultimately, monetary policy boils down to promoting and maintaining price stability and economic growth. To achieve their goals, central banks use monetary policy mainly to control the following: *the interest rates tied to the cost of money, *the rise in inflation, *the money supply, *reserve requirements over banks, *discount window lending to commercial banks Types of Monetary Policy: Monetary policy can be referred to in a couple different ways. Contractionary or restrictive monetary policy takes place if it reduces the size of the money supply. It can also occur with the raising of interest rates. The idea here is to slow economic growth with the high interest rates. Borrowing money becomes harder and more expensive, which reduces spending and investment by both consumers and businesses. Expansionary monetary policy, on the other hand, expands or increases the money supply, or decreases the interest rate. The cost of borrowing money goes down in hopes that spending and investment will go up. Accommodative monetary policy aims to create economic growth by lowering the interest rate, whereas tight monetary policy is set to reduce inflation or restrain economic growth by raising interest rates. Finally, neutral monetary policy intends to neither create growth nor fight inflation. The important thing to remember about inflation is that central banks usually have an inflation target in mind, say 2%. They might not come out and say it specifically, but their monetary policies all operate and focus on reaching this comfort zone. They know that some inflation is a good thing, but out-of-control inflation can remove the confidence people have in their economy, their job, and ultimately, their money. By having target inflation levels, central banks help market participants better understand how they (the central bankers) will deal with the current economic landscape. Let's take a look at an example. Back in January of 2010, inflation in the U.K. shot up to 3.5% from 2.9% in just one month. With a target inflation rate of 2%, the new 3.5% rate was well above the Bank of England's comfort zone. Mervyn King, the governor of the BOE, followed up the report by reassuring people that temporary factors caused the sudden jump, and that the current inflation rate would fall in the near term with minimal action from the BOE. Whether or not his statements turned out to be true is not the point here. We just want to show that the market is in a better place when it knows why the central bank does or doesn't do something in relation to its target interest rate. Simply put, traders like stability. Central banks like stability. Economies like stability. Knowing that inflation targets exist will help a trader to understand why a central bank does what it does. A currency's interest rate is probably the biggest factor in determining the perceived value of a currency. So knowing how a country's central bank sets its monetary policy, such as interest rate decisions, is a crucial thing to wrap your head around. One of the biggest influences on a central bank's interest rate decision is price stability, or "inflation". Inflation is a steady increase in the prices of goods and services. Inflation is the reason why your parents or your parents' parents paid a nickel for a soda pop in the 1920's, but now people pay twenty times more for the same product. It's generally accepted that moderate inflation comes with economic growth. *However, too much inflation can harm an economy and that's why central banks are always keeping a watchful eye on inflation-related economic indicators, such as the CPI and PCE. On to the next point. Kap says: the Dinar will not be bought or sold overseas. That will be done by the CBI. The CBI will control the monetary policy. The dinar held in international reserves will stay there for a “very long time.” Clearly telling us, once again that banks/feds hold this dinar will use it simply as a reserve currency. A currency held for a “long time.” How does a Reserve Currency not get bought and sold overseas? Of course the CBI will control the monetary policy, that is what a Central Bank does, in every country, with no exception. Please refer to the above info if you are still not clear about that. I'm wondering who else does Kap think would control the monetary policy of a particular country? The "RV" will not accomplish giving the IQD Reserve Currency status. If all of a sudden 70 Billion M2 money supply turned into 70 Trillion overnight, it would instantly send that country into an Ultra Hyper-Inflated state, period! What is one of the main goal's of a Central Bank? Maintaining price stability and economic growth. How do you maintain price stability with a 100,000% overnight increase on everything in your country's economy? I'm not going to expand on the rest of what Kap says in the original article as I have already covered the main points above. Hope this helps at least one person realize that they shouldn't listen to anything and everything a self-proclaimed Dinar gurus says. Unless of course it is for entertainment purposes only. Bottom Line: If Iraq wishes to have their currency as a Reserve Currency there is A LOT of work that needs to be done. This kind of thing can't happen over night, hell, it can't happen in 20 years! I have listed some of the main criteria for a Reserve Currency towards the top of my post. Think hard about what a Reserve Currency needs and if Iraq fits that criteria or not. Unless you are banking on the collapse of our entire global financial system then it would be foolish to think that the IQD will be a Reserve Currency anytime soon. If YOU ARE banking on the collapse of our world's financial system, then best of luck to you. I would say forget about paper currency, go get some guns, ammo, food, water, and fuel. Also might want to learn a few survival skills!

Oh yeah?.....The way I see it, 5 trillion of money we dont have was spent on welfare recipients.....Jeez, imagine all the breakthroughs we could have with that kind of dough. I forgot to add.....The bloodiest place on Earth is probably Chicago with some other Lib strongholds in a close second. Oh....and I could have sworn that Al Gore said he invented the Internet.

He has already released his tax records and they have been shredded in an effort to find something against him - results "0"! However, Obama has yet to release any records pertaining to his education and/or the funding.

One evening while sitting around a camp fire and old Cherokee Chief was talking to his grandson about what life for him was gonna be like. The chief told his grandson that every day there will be a very furoius battle that will go on inside all people during their lives. He said, "My son the battle is between two large wolves and one wants to destroy you". One is evil:: It is full of anger, envy, jealously, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, ego and hatred. The other is good:: it is full of joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, empathy, generosity, truth, compansion, and faith. The grandson thought about this for a minute and looked at his grandfather, then asked, "which one wins". The old chief smiled and said it is very simple, the one you feed. Always remember the great white father will help you restrain the bad wolve as long as you will seek his help.

LOL, only matter of time the Other crew would show up. to provoke a response . Mitt i believe will turn this country around. if you want to work you can if you want to dead beat and wait for a handout keep waiting. Earn your pay, Earn your keep. The time for the BS and nonsense is over. Unite behind a man who will give the US a chance. Set Aside the problems, war of words and other junk of the past and lets make the US a strong and respected country again.

Here is my own personal opinion devised out of real practicality: If Romney answered no to the following questions I would still vote for him if he could answer yes to the last one. Will you show us your birth certificate? Will you show us your school transcripts? Will you prove your US citizenship? Do you have a drug free history? BUT the important question to the next president is: Can you make the USA as financially successful as the companies your started?

GotSix, What are you talking about? When did I ever say I owned 20 Million Dinar yesterday? Please show me where I said that. I sold out the majority of my Dinar months ago. Also, who said that one has to sell Dinar in order to fund a brokerage account in order to do another form of investing / trading? Dinar was "Vegas" money bud. Multiple streams of income is the name of the game, sounds like you just want something to argue about, go start a fight somewhere else GotSix. I could take a screen shot of this week's trades but it won't prove anything. People who are jealous, envious, and simply love to hate on other people's success will just come up with some excuse like "it's photo shopped..." Or "that screen shot probably isn't yours..." On top of that, I don't need to prove anything to anybody here. How will that make me money? It won't! This site is not a popularity contest, it is a place where people can exchange information and ideas with each other. You want to start a fight go pound a few beers and head on over to the local pub. I won't waste any more time on you GotSix...

There is no such thing as Corporate welfare....Thats a Lib invented term for legal ways that Corps, both large and small (Mom & Pops) get to write off expenses for expanding (the economy) and hiring employees. Any additional taxes that are imposed by a Socialist Govt, will be passed on to the consumer (you)

I see over 1000 when I search for Iraqi Dinar on ebay. That said, I did the same search 6 months ago, and there were just about the same number of folks selling, but the amounts offered for sale were much higher. Most of the listings now are for 100K or less, whereas 6 months ago, I saw quite a few listings for over a million on just the first page.

I would love to see loser obamas background check in Kenya.

6-2-2012 Kaperoni: Is a LOP or Redenomination possible? Let’s go with the full 27 trillion dinar in circulation. If they LOP or re-denominate 27 trillion to 27 billion (delete 3 zeros) and gave it all to the US, they would not come close to paying off the war debt of 800 billion and climbing. Only a RV will solve the financial expense. Only a RV will pay off the kind of global debt. Now lets look a bit closer on where the dinar will go post RV. Can Iraq collect it and pay for it? I don’t think that this the plan. “Experts regard financial ambition that the Iraqi dinar is adopted as part of international reserves, through the establishment of a strong economy boosts value of local currency.” Here we have the first statement which appears to disclose the plan for the dinar. The dinar that was “leaked or sold” outside of iraq. Pretty clear..”adopted as part of international reserves.” Saleh: "the Iraqi dinar is not an international reserve currency to be treated abroad, we aspire to be the monetary policy of the Iraqi dinar portion of international reserves and this needs to be a long time." So he is saying here. The Dinar will not he bought or sold overseas. That will be done by the CBI. The CBI will control the monetary policy. The dinar held in international reserves will stay there for a “very long time.” Clearly telling us, once again that banks/feds hold this dinar will use it simply as a reserve currency. A currency held for a “long time.” The CBI will be the Central Bank for the dinar handling the monetary policy. And once they RV, the dinar will become an international reserve currency (as the dinar you and I own is collected and held). “The member of the Economic Commission parliamentary: the idea is now up to the deletion of three zeros of the Iraqi currency, and this project will hopefully contribute to give power to the Iraqi currency to foreign dealings.” They just gave us the answers we wanted. When will it become a foreign reserve currency? The answer is clear, that once they “delete 3 zeros” that will start the process (collection) to create the foreign reserves “they aspire to be part of.” As well we see they want to “give power” to the Iraqi currency internationally. Only a RV can accomplish this. “Saturday: "it is obvious that Iraq is capable of adopting the dinar as part of international reserves, especially large resource he possesses in the oil sector and over (80 to 90) billion dollars of Central Bank reserves and the positive impact on the Iraqi currency against the greenback and makes well-placed dinar as formerly among world currencies.” Wow! This quote is very powerful. They are saying the dinar will be very strong, have a positive impact against other currencies (causing them to be strong). More of the plan is coming out. “The Central Bank adviser said in an earlier statement to the news agency of news "that the Iraqi dinar is not an international reserve currency to be treated abroad, we aspire to be the monetary policy of the Iraqi dinar portion of reserves and this needs to be a long time.” “He pointed to: that the goal of central bank policy at the moment is the stability of the exchange rate of the dinar against the U.S. dollar , Our goal in the long run be equal to it being a process need to be a strong economy and inflation is low and a cash reserve large.” “Jubouri said in an earlier statement: The approach undertaken by the central bank retention rate of the dinar against the dollar during the current indication that monetary policy in the country able to make the dinar equivalent of the U.S. dollar.” These 3 quotes…tell us the dinar is now (the CBI feels) a “hard currency.” That the goal is to make the dinar equal to the USD. Or 1 to 1. Therefore, we now see the rate. Not some foolish rate, but a rate comparable to the US dollar. Hard currency (also known as a safe-haven currency or strong currency), in economics, refers to a globally traded currency that is expected to serve as a reliable and stable store of value. Factors contributing to a currency's hard status might include the long-term stability of its purchasing power, the associated country's political and fiscal condition and outlook, and the policy posture of the issuing central bank. This definition falls in line with the plan. What the other statement meant. What the plan is for the New Iraqi Dinar. This event will “increase the confidence and international credibility in Iraqi currency” Next time someone gives you a huge bogus rate, show them the facts. Show them the desire of the Central Bank of Iraq. When you follow the facts, you get the real story. I hope it helps.

the scariest thing to hear. " I am from the gov't and I'm here to help" Ronald Reagan.

Parliament calls for the central bank to take measures to reduce the real exchange rate of the dollar Baghdad / justice - 12/07/2012 Student member of the Committee of Economy and Investment parliamentary Aziz Sharif Mayahi the central bank to take real action to reduce the height is not reasonable at the exchange rate of the dinar against the dollar. He said in a press statement yesterday: "The central bank is serious about the procedures carried out by the curb height is unreasonable rate Dinarmkabl dollar, which we consider routine procedures is feasible and can be accessed through the real solutions." He added: "The Central Bank of the demands of today's action process and rapidly through accountability and follow-up banks that have been delegated drainage more accurately and the replacement and removal of some influential people in the Central Bank who are manipulating the exchange rate. "He continued:" The brokers market became manipulating the price of the dollar in the market without any accountability, "calling on the central bank to" stop statements for the sterile and move in a more realistic through the concrete and deliberate action on the ground. "The domestic market is witnessing a big increase in foreign exchange rates and despite the numerous measures undertaken by the central bank, but the exchange rate is still high. http://www.aladalanews.net/index.php?show=news&action=article&id=99707

Im back! its good to see some familar faces here

Thank you Delta for posting this. It makes a lot of sense. I agree that there are too many people out there claiming the "right" to the free stuff, when they really shouldnt be getting anything at all. Of course, taking away for those that really need, and deserve, it.

No, I just questioned like most do about anything that has to do with this investment. No secret source or intel. But after talking to Kap and another person, I called a very large liquidity trader and asked. I was told point blank that they were working on the overall marketing, distribution, of the dinar to central banks. They would not say more so the intel from Kap is accurate.

Exactly, we need to get something done and fast. No doubt, still irritated their sucker got dropped in the sand! I agree with you 100% the time for hand outs is over and the time for personal responsibility is at hand. What ever happened to good old American values?

LMAO @ this thread lets argue till the end of time to see if their gonna LOP or NOT LOP thats gonna get us somewhere right? wrong. Listen most of us are well aware of the LOP but i for one will continue to hold my millions i have and none of you will do a damn thing about it feel better now?

Then shouldn't ALL americans (all religious and non religious and even athiests) be concerned then? Because this is a FREEDOM of Speech and FREEDOM of Assembly issue!

Rep. Jeb Hensarling tells Newsmax that the Supreme Court’s ruling on the expansion of Medicaid has made Obamacare “ridiculously unaffordable,” and it is “the will of the people” to repeal and replace the healthcare reform law. The Texas lawmaker, chairman of the House Republican Conference, also says President Obama’s proposal to raise taxes on wealthier Americans is an exercise in “the politics of diversion” to distract voters from focusing on the lagging economy. In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV on Wednesday, Hensarling — who was first elected in 2002 — discusses the significance of the House vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Story continues. “Number one, this is one of the seminal issues of our time,” he says. “Those who have worked for government-controlled healthcare have been working on it for decades. Those of us who want patient-centered healthcare have worked on this for two years. It’s a little unreasonable to think that somehow we’re going to go away. “Second, this is a different Obamacare now that the Supreme Court has ruled. Whether we like it or not, the individual mandate is now legally judged to be tax. A lot of different folks who gave us Obamacare said they would never, never support a tax increase on those who make less than $200,000. According to the Supreme Court, Obamacare does just that. So it’s important to revote this thing again. “Next, the forced Medicaid expansion was ruled unconstitutional. And that takes a bill that we can’t afford and makes it even more unaffordable because in all the states that choose not to do the Medicaid expansion, all those people are going to end up on Obamacare. “Last but not least, I believe that it’s the will of the people in America [to repeal Obamacare]. I know it’s certainly the will of the majority of people in the 5th Congressional district of Texas that I represent. It’s not going to be the last time that we vote on this because the people’s will must be done.” A number of governors have said their state is not going to participate in the Medicaid expansion called for in the healthcare reform act, including Texas Gov. Rick Perry. Elaborating on the problems resulting from the Medicaid expansion, Hensarling says: “I think the whole law was unaffordable to begin with. Now it has gone from greatly unaffordable to ridiculously unaffordable. I do believe a number of states will decide not to do the Medicaid expansion. “What I know is that many governors have said that these Medicaid expansions are causing them to cut their education budgets, to cut their public safety budgets, to cut their highway budgets. Many of the states are hemorrhaging from these forced expansions of Medicaid, which is a problem I’m not even sure the original authors of the program would recognize. “It’s gone way beyond simply helping indigent people get healthcare and it’s doing it in a very clumsy, inefficient government manner. That’s another reason why we have to have this vote, to help focus people’s attention that under President Obama we’ve racked up more national debt in the last three and a half years than the previous 200. At some point you’ve got to stop spending money you don’t have.” If the GOP gains control of Congress and the White House in November, how long will it take until there is a new healthcare bill that all Republicans can agree on to replace Obamacare? Hensarling was asked. “We don’t want to repeat the mistakes of the past and rush through a 2,000-plus-page bill behind closed doors in the dead of night,” he responds. “So step number one is to go back, listen to the American people and engage in common sense steps that we know can make healthcare more affordable, more portable, and retain its high quality.” One Republican focus would be on medical liability reform, Hensarling says. “You speak to any doctor and they say a quarter to a third of all the medicine they dispense is defensive medicine, based upon the fear of a lawsuit. There is great savings there. Also, Americans should be able to shop for healthcare insurance across state lines, according to Hensarling. “Third, we need to be incentivizing wellness and success, not just this fee-for-service system that actually [encourages] doctors to make up in quantity and volume what they lose out with government price control. “I have no doubt, after listening to the American people, we can have a very comprehensive patient-centered healthcare that makes it affordable, portable, of high quality, and ensures that no one debilitating illness wipes out a lifetime of saving.” Rep. Hensarling addresses President Obama’s proposal to allow the Bush-era tax cuts to expire for Americans earning more than $250,000 a year. “I don’t know what’s news about the president trying to increase taxes,” he tells Newsmax. “He’s been trying to do this from day one. How he thinks that raising anybody’s taxes in this economy is going to help economic growth is beyond me. “You add up all the revenue from his tax plan, it’s less than two percent of his spending agenda. It’s about eight percent of the new $10 trillion of additional debt that he is going to be adding to the national debt. “This kind of policy doesn’t pass an eighth grade economics exam. I don’t think the American people ultimately believe that taxing anybody in this economy is going to help jobs and growth. What this really is, is the politics of diversion, trying to put one American against another. It’s about the politics of envy. “If you were Barack Obama and you were presiding over the worst economy since the Great Depression and it was your policies, your tax policy, your spending policy, your red tape policy that were driving all of this, wouldn’t you want to change the subject? It’s a classic political tactic - try to divide Americans and change the subject.” As for Obama’s attacks on Mitt Romney over his wealth and business experience, Hensarling says: “This is an administration that wants to vilify success, an administration that attacks the free enterprise system. We have seen it before. “They have to change the subject because we’ve now had 41 straight months of eight-percent-plus unemployment, the worst employment record since the Great Depression. The bottom line is, if Barack Obama wasn’t there millions more Americans would have paychecks instead of welfare checks and the average American family would have several more thousand dollars of disposable income in their pocket.” Rep. Hensarling last year served on a bipartisan committee that sought strategies for reducing the deficit and overhauling the tax system. On tax reform, he tells Newsmax: “Ultimately Republicans want to pass a fair, flatter, simpler, more competitive tax code. We put it into our budget, a two-tiered flat tax system at 10 and 25 percent, bringing down the corporate rate. We have the single highest corporate tax rate in the world, which helps shift jobs overseas and makes us uncompetitive. “We want to clear out all the loopholes, all the exclusions, broaden the base and lower the rates. That will help ignite economic growth, and come November, if we are able to prevail, you will see that. “You will also see, after we take care of voting to repeal the president’s unaffordable, government-controlled healthcare system, we will vote to stop the president’s tax increases and lay down the foundation in the next Congress to bring about a fair, flatter, simpler, more competitive tax code to ignite economic growth and job creation.” © 2012 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

As you probably already know the Eurozone is in BIG trouble and there is no immediate "fix" for their problems. China has also been experiencing major slow downs in their markets which is why they have actually cut rates twice in the pats few months and have gone ahead with their stimulus plans. The Royal Bank of Australia has cut interest rates from 4% down to 3.75% on April 30th. They also cut their rates again from 3.75% down to 3.5% in June. When China's manufacturing and overall growth slows down, Australia slows down because Australia is very reliant on exports of Gold and other minerals which are used in Manufacturing. Canada is very reliant on their Oil and Gold exports so when prices of Oil & Gold go down, so does their exports and overall production. The European Central Bank also cut their rates from 1.00% down to .75% which is now the lowest cash interest rate since the inception of the Euro. Not good for them... Britain's economy is contracting and has been (and will be) doing more quantitative easing in the near future to try and "stimulate" their economy. There is much more to this, but this is the simplified version. Basically, we are experiencing a contraction / slow down on a global scale and when this happens it is known as "risk off." This means that money flows from "risk on" investments such as the equity markets and emerging economies back to the safe haven currencies - the US Dollar and the Japanese Yen. The major indices move (more or less) in correlation with currencies such as the Australian Dollar, New Zealand Dollar, Euro, Great British Pound, as well as a few others. **The Australian Dollar will do the best out of the other currencies as it is has the highest interest rate and is well liked for the "carry trade" because of the interest it pays. But it will still move down with the others... If you pull up some historical charts from 2008 you will find what I'm saying is true. When major problems occur around the world, money flows to the USD and the JPY as they are the safest currencies, regardless of what others say about the imminent crash of the USD. That is definitely not the case! There is much much more to it then what I stated above, BUT, the overall sentiment of the markets are RISK OFF and will remain this way until the end of 2012. Core Personal Consumption Expenditure is Ben Bernanke's favorite fundamental tool to gauge whether to do QE. If it stays above 2%, QE bugs can kiss QE goodbye. We won't see any additional QE until after November's elections, if ever again at all... LTRO's yes, but no QE.

WoooHoo....Thats what Im talkin about Eliminate the garbage and Incentivize business and competition

Installer, careful, BlackSwan likes to talk a lot of crap to people, best thing to do is walk away.

You don't have to buy into anything that I'm saying. You can buy into Kap and the other self proclaimed gurus if you wish. I actually don't even post much over here because people don't want to hear anything that I have to say anyways. I trade FOREX for a living, and I am pretty damn good at it. I made a little over $2k yesterday and today on my Platinum trade. I also made a little over $500 on my Oil trade yesterday. Not bad for half a weeks work. I'm not bragging, but somebody who doesn't understand how currencies and commodities work would not survive in my business. The FOREX will eat most people alive! You can refer back to my original post in the News Section which is still "Pinned" which explains how Monetary Policy works. It also goes into depth on how the currency auctions work. **The biggest problem is, Iraq is not using the currency auctions to "soak up" the IQD on the streets. Another problem is, they are not using "Contractionary monetary policies" by reducing the money supply, they are doing the opposite which is Expansionary monetary policy to increase the money supply. I did believe that they had many options in order to decrease the money supply and increase the value of their currency but they have not done any of them. I wonder why? Maybe it is because it is not in their best interest to do so at this time. However, one thing that I do know is that the more they print the more likely a re-denomination is. It has already reached a level where I find it hard to believe a straight up RV at even a penny is possible. I am entitled to my own opinion based off of my own facts and research just as you are entitled to yours. I will also repeat what I stated in my previous post, I did not know what I know now in regards to currencies, economics, etc... Every day I am less naieve, and I am thankful for that because it is allowing me the financial independence I have always been looking for. I am in control of how much money I create, not the government of Iraq! By the way, the name of the thread that I started in August of 2011 is: Open Market Operations aka "Currency Auctions"

For the non-Canadians who read this I must preface it with the following: The Prime Minister is our equivalent of your President Ottawa is our equivalent of your Washington Newfoundland is a province equivalent to one of your states (though much larger. A person who lives in Newfoundland is, to the rest of Canada, the butt of our jokes. We unabashedly refer to Newfies in a way that makes them seem ... well ... dull witted would be a good way to put it. Not to worry too much, as they have the same jokes using people from other provinces. And they quite often find jokes on themselves funny enough to recirculate. I suppose that follows the fact that Canadians are not afraid to laugh at themselves. A so to the joke ... A little boy in Newfoundland , wanted $100.00 for something very special. He prayed for weeks, but nothing happened . Then he decided to write God a letter requesting the $100.00. When the postal authorities received the letter to God , Canada , they decided to send it to the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister was so amused that he instructed his secretary to send the little boy a $ 5.00 bill. The Prime Minister thought this would appear to be a lot of money to a little boy in Newfoundland . The little boy was delighted with the $5.00 bill and sat down to write a thank-you note to God, which read: Dear God: Thank you very much for sending the money. However, I noticed that for some reason you sent it through Ottawa, and those assholes took $95.00 in taxes.

Cris I admire the fact that you think you are talking to people who can rationally think or debate......you are not. Most of the liberal progressives only care about one thing...What do I get from this government? What is sad is that the countries that most degrade the US are the most financially screwed countries. but please keep trying to convince those that will listen ....maybe ....just maybe ....one will really look at where we are headed....Thanks....Chris...

Adam has always said that if he thinks this investment has turned bad and we had no chance of making "any" money that he would come on here and let us know as soon as he found out and verified the info! How will he let us know: Chat room e-mail - Sign up at the bottom center of the main forum page! blog site - http://dinarspeculation.com/ post here at DV Hope that helps!

7-11-2012 Breitling: I completely agree with Med's explanation "RIGHT NOW THE DINAR IS 1166 BUT THE NOMINAL VALUE IS .00086 AND SINCE CBI STATED THEY ARE REMOVING THE ZERO FROM THE NOMINAL VALUE OR THE THOUSANDTH, THIS IS WHERE THIS THOUSAND TO ONE KEEPS POPPING UP, THE DINAR IS RECOGNIZED IN THE THOUSANDTH THE USD IS NOT. BY REMOVING THE 3 ZEROS OR THE THOUSANDTH POSITIONS, THEY ARE NOW BROUGHT IN LINE WITH THE NOMINAL VALUE OF THE USD. NOW WHAT IS THE CONVERTED VALUE AFTER THE REMOVAL OF THE ZEROS? 1.17 DINARS = 1 US DOLLAR OR .86 CENTS." That is how I see it. They are going to come in at a buck or completely ignore the new currency & new money supply & come in at a lower rate. We are at the mercy of the CBI. Print in September, distribute in January, just below a buck.

Great post Divedeepsix Just an observation.....He seems absolutely nothing like O'blah Im sure we'll continue to hear how Romney is the lesser of 2 evils though.

I'm so scared...Dinar buddy save me from the boogey man LOL

LOL, yeah you are right I forgot to add the fine print! This came to me in an email, but I thought the business stuff was especially interesting because I'm in business myself, well trying to stay in business myself. Anyway thought you guys may find it interesting with all the hoopla about Bain, swiss bank accts, etc. Maybe Romney took advice from our own Mr. Montana on how to get the most from his money on or offshore, 2 smart business people I respect.

Quote Kuwait Dinar = $3.555 Bahrain Dinar = $2.67 Jordan Dinar = $1.4127 Saudia Arabia riyal = $0.2667 Egypt pound = $0.1650 End Quote Interesting to notice the value of the Jordan Dinar ...$1.4127... And I am not even sure Jordan has any oil.. Maybe a little ...But that exchange rate is pretty staggering imo... As far as I know (not much I admit) Jordan is not supposed to be a particularly rich Country anyway.

I think it's a GREEN BUTTON! (you know, the color of MONEY, the color of GO) THANKS ADAM!!

I don't mind the wait, it's the "open ended issues" that bother me.... but it looks like those are being resolved!!! Thanks for the chat Adam, and thanks for posting kcw!!! One more thing to add of course.... "Git-r-dun boyz.... just Git-R-Dun"... push the pretty red button Shabbs!!! Come On RV Baby!!!