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  1. I'm confused as to why people have to say they are leaving...is this like a suicide note, so we can have a better understanding why they're gone? If you're out, just go away. No one is going to start saying, "hey, whatever happened to uncs? You don't think he sold everything without telling us, do you?" Geez, some people get so personal about this speculative investment. Even if Iraq completely disappeared and took their dinar with them, I would just go onto something else. I mean, I've got a 401k that was doing pretty badly for a while, I certainly wouldn't tell the world if I decided to quit putting money into it and cash out.
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  2. NO ONE forced ANYONE to buy Iraqi Dinars...SOOO many people jumped into this thinking they would be millionaires overnight, and years later, it still hasn't happened, and now the Dinar dealers are to blame! This is EXACTLY what is wrong with America!! No personal accountability...never invest more than you can afford to lose, and if you do end up losing, man the f*ck up, move on, and don't go around crying about it....
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  3. George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting By Chris Francescani SANFORD, Florida | Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:24am IST SANFORD, Florida (Reuters) - A pit bull named Big Boi began menacing George and Shellie Zimmerman in the fall of 2009. The first time the dog ran free and cornered Shellie in their gated community in Sanford, Florida, George called the owner to complain. The second time, Big Boi frightened his mother-in-law's dog. Zimmerman called Seminole County Animal Services and bought pepper spray. The third time he saw the dog on the loose, he called again. An officer came to the house, county records show. "Don't use pepper spray," he told the Zimmermans, according to a friend. "It'll take two or three seconds to take effect, but a quarter second for the dog to jump you," he said. "Get a gun." That November, the Zimmermans completed firearms training at a local lodge and received concealed-weapons gun permits. In early December, another source close to them told Reuters, the couple bought a pair of guns. George picked a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm handgun, a popular, lightweight weapon. By June 2011, Zimmerman's attention had shifted from a loose pit bull to a wave of robberies that rattled the community, called the Retreat at Twin Lakes. The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman would begin to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol - a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime. Few of his closest neighbors knew he carried a gun - until two months ago. On February 26, George Zimmerman shot and killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in what Zimmerman says was self-defense. The furor that ensued has consumed the country and prompted a re-examination of guns, race and self-defense laws enacted in nearly half the United States. During the time Zimmerman was in hiding, his detractors defined him as a vigilante who had decided Martin was suspicious merely because he was black. After Zimmerman was finally arrested on a charge of second-degree murder more than six weeks after the shooting, prosecutors portrayed him as a violent and angry man who disregarded authority by pursuing the 17-year-old. But a more nuanced portrait of Zimmerman has emerged from a Reuters investigation into Zimmerman's past and a series of incidents in the community in the months preceding the Martin shooting. Based on extensive interviews with relatives, friends, neighbors, schoolmates and co-workers of Zimmerman in two states, law enforcement officials, and reviews of court documents and police reports, the story sheds new light on the man at the center of one of the most controversial homicide cases in America. The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic background and was taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate. He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him. A criminal justice student who aspired to become a judge, Zimmerman also concerned himself with the safety of his neighbors after a series of break-ins committed by young African-American men. Though civil rights demonstrators have argued Zimmerman should not have prejudged Martin, one black neighbor of the Zimmermans said recent history should be taken into account. "Let's talk about the elephant in the room. I'm black, OK?" the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. "There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood," she said. "That's why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin." "MIXED" HOUSEHOLD George Michael Zimmerman was born in 1983 to Robert and Gladys Zimmerman, the third of four children. Robert Zimmerman Sr. was a U.S. Army veteran who served in Vietnam in 1970, and was stationed at Fort Myer in Arlington, Virginia, in 1975 with Gladys Mesa's brother George. Zimmerman Sr. also served two tours in Korea, and spent the final 10 years of his 22-year military career in the Pentagon, working for the Department of Defense, a family member said. In his final years in Virginia before retiring to Florida, Robert Zimmerman served as a magistrate in Fairfax County's 19th Judicial District. Robert and Gladys met in January 1975, when George Mesa brought along his army buddy to his sister's birthday party. She was visiting from Peru, on vacation from her job there as a physical education teacher. Robert was a Baptist, Gladys was Catholic. They soon married, in a Catholic ceremony in Alexandria, and moved to nearby Manassas. Gladys came to lead a small but growing Catholic Hispanic enclave within the All Saints Catholic Church parish in the late 1970s, where she was involved in the church's outreach programs. Gladys would bring young George along with her on "home visits" to poor families, said a family friend, Teresa Post. "It was part of their upbringing to know that there are people in need, people more in need than themselves," said Post, a Peruvian immigrant who lived with the Zimmermans for a time. Post recalls evening prayers before dinner in the ethnically diverse Zimmerman household, which included siblings Robert Jr., Grace, and Dawn. "It wasn't only white or only Hispanic or only black - it was mixed," she said. Zimmerman's maternal grandmother, Cristina, who had lived with the Zimmermans since 1978, worked as a babysitter for years during Zimmerman's childhood. For several years she cared for two African-American girls who ate their meals at the Zimmerman house and went back and forth to school each day with the Zimmerman children. "They were part of the household for years, until they were old enough to be on their own," Post said. Zimmerman served as an altar boy at All Saints from age 7 to 17, church members said. "He wasn't the type where, you know, 'I'm being forced to do this,' and a dragging-his-feet Catholic," said Sandra Vega, who went to high school with George and his siblings. "He was an altar boy for years, and then worked in the rectory too. He has a really good heart." George grew up bilingual, and by age 10 he was often called to the Haydon Elementary School principal's office to act as a translator between administrators and immigrant parents. At 14 he became obsessed with becoming a Marine, a relative said, joining the after-school ROTC program at Grace E. Metz Middle School and polishing his boots by night. At 15, he worked three part-time jobs - in a Mexican restaurant, for the rectory, and washing cars - on nights and weekends, to save up for a car. After graduating from Osbourn High School in 2001, Zimmerman moved to Lake Mary, Florida, a town neighboring Sanford. His parents purchased a retirement home there in 2002, in part to bring Cristina, who suffers from arthritis, to a warmer climate. YOUNG INSURANCE AGENT On his own at 18, George got a job at an insurance agency and began to take classes at night to earn a license to sell insurance. He grew friendly with a real estate agent named Lee Ann Benjamin, who shared office space in the building, and later her husband, John Donnelly, a Sanford attorney. "George impressed me right off the bat as just a real go-getter," Donnelly said. "He was working days and taking all these classes at night, passing all the insurance classes, not just for home insurance, but auto insurance and everything. He wanted to open his own office - and he did." In 2004, Zimmerman partnered with an African-American friend and opened up an Allstate insurance satellite office, Donnelly said. Then came 2005, and a series of troubles. Zimmerman's business failed, he was arrested, and he broke off an engagement with a woman who filed a restraining order against him. That July, Zimmerman was charged with resisting arrest, violence, and battery of an officer after shoving an undercover alcohol-control agent who was arresting an under-age friend of Zimmerman's at a bar. He avoided conviction by agreeing to participate in a pre-trial diversion program that included anger-management classes. In August, Zimmerman's fiancee at the time, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman reciprocated with his own order on the same grounds, and both orders were granted. The relationship ended. In 2007 he married Shellie Dean, a licensed cosmetologist, and in 2009 the couple rented a townhouse in the Retreat at Twin Lakes. Zimmerman had bounced from job to job for a couple of years, working at a car dealership and a mortgage company. At times, according to testimony from Shellie at a bond hearing for Zimmerman last week, the couple filed for unemployment benefits. Zimmerman enrolled in Seminole State College in 2009, and in December 2011 he was permitted to participate in a school graduation ceremony, despite being a course credit shy of his associate's degree in criminal justice. Zimmerman was completing that course credit when the shooting occurred. On March 22 , nearly a month after the shooting and with the controversy by then swirling nationwide, the school issued a press release saying it was taking the "unusual, but necessary" step of withdrawing Zimmerman's enrollment, citing "the safety of our students on campus as well as for Mr. Zimmerman." A NEIGHBORHOOD IN FEAR By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins. Previously a family-friendly, first-time homeowner community, it was devastated by the recession that hit the Florida housing market, and transient renters began to occupy some of the 263 town houses in the complex. Vandalism and occasional drug activity were reported, and home values plunged. One resident who bought his home in 2006 for $250,000 said it was worth $80,000 today. At least eight burglaries were reported within Twin Lakes in the 14 months prior to the Trayvon Martin shooting, according to the Sanford Police Department. Yet in a series of interviews, Twin Lakes residents said dozens of reports of attempted break-ins and would-be burglars casing homes had created an atmosphere of growing fear in the neighborhood. In several of the incidents, witnesses identified the suspects to police as young black men. Twin Lakes is about 50 percent white, with an African-American and Hispanic population of about 20 percent each, roughly similar to the surrounding city of Sanford, according to U.S. Census data. One morning in July 2011, a black teenager walked up to Zimmerman's front porch and stole a bicycle, neighbors told Reuters. A police report was taken, though the bicycle was not recovered. But it was the August incursion into the home of Olivia Bertalan that really troubled the neighborhood, particularly Zimmerman. Shellie was home most days, taking online courses towards certification as a registered nurse. On August 3, Bertalan was at home with her infant son while her husband, Michael, was at work. She watched from a downstairs window, she said, as two black men repeatedly rang her doorbell and then entered through a sliding door at the back of the house. She ran upstairs, locked herself inside the boy's bedroom, and called a police dispatcher, whispering frantically. "I said, 'What am I supposed to do? I hear them coming up the stairs!'" she told Reuters. Bertalan tried to coo her crying child into silence and armed herself with a pair of rusty scissors. Police arrived just as the burglars - who had been trying to disconnect the couple's television - fled out a back door. Shellie Zimmerman saw a black male teen running through her backyard and reported it to police. After police left Bertalan, George Zimmerman arrived at the front door in a shirt and tie, she said. He gave her his contact numbers on an index card and invited her to visit his wife if she ever felt unsafe. He returned later and gave her a stronger lock to bolster the sliding door that had been forced open. "He was so mellow and calm, very helpful and very, very sweet," she said last week. "We didn't really know George at first, but after the break-in we talked to him on a daily basis. People were freaked out. It wasn't just George calling police ... we were calling police at least once a week." In September, a group of neighbors including Zimmerman approached the homeowners association with their concerns, she said. Zimmerman was asked to head up a new neighborhood watch. He agreed. "PLEASE CONTACT OUR CAPTAIN" Police had advised Bertalan to get a dog. She and her husband decided to move out instead, and left two days before the shooting. Zimmerman took the advice. "He'd already had a mutt that he walked around the neighborhood every night - man, he loved that dog - but after that home invasion he also got a Rottweiler," said Jorge Rodriguez, a friend and neighbor of the Zimmermans. Around the same time, Zimmerman also gave Rodriguez and his wife, Audria, his contact information, so they could reach him day or night. Rodriguez showed the index card to Reuters. In neat cursive was a list of George and Shellie's home number and cell phones, as well as their emails. Less than two weeks later, another Twin Lakes home was burglarized, police reports show. Two weeks after that, a home under construction was vandalized. The Retreat at Twin Lakes e-newsletter for February 2012 noted: "The Sanford PD has announced an increased patrol within our neighborhood ... during peak crime hours. "If you've been a victim of a crime in the community, after calling police, please contact our captain, George Zimmerman." EMMANUEL BURGESS - SETTING THE STAGE On February 2, 2012, Zimmerman placed a call to Sanford police after spotting a young black man he recognized peering into the windows of a neighbor's empty home, according to several friends and neighbors. "I don't know what he's doing. I don't want to approach him, personally," Zimmerman said in the call, which was recorded. The dispatcher advised him that a patrol car was on the way. By the time police arrived, according to the dispatch report, t he suspect had fled. On February 6, the home of another Twin Lakes resident, Tatiana Demeacis, was burglarized. Two roofers working directly across the street said they saw two African-American men lingering in the yard at the time of the break-in. A new laptop and some gold jewelry were stolen. One of the roofers called police the next day after spotting one of the suspects among a group of male teenagers, three black and one white, on bicycles. Police found Demeacis's laptop in the backpack of 18-year-old Emmanuel Burgess, police reports show, and charged him with dealing in stolen property. Burgess was the same man Zimmerman had spotted on February 2. Burgess had committed a series of burglaries on the other side of town in 2008 and 2009, pleaded guilty to several, and spent all of 2010 incarcerated in a juvenile facility, his attorney said. He is now in jail on parole violations. Three days after Burgess was arrested, Zimmerman's grandmother was hospitalized for an infection, and the following week his father was also admitted for a heart condition. Zimmerman spent a number of those nights on a hospital room couch. Ten days after his father was hospitalized, Zimmerman noticed another young man in the neighborhood, acting in a way he found familiar, so he made another call to police. "We've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy," Zimmerman said, as Trayvon Martin returned home from the store. The last time Zimmerman had called police, to report Burgess, he followed protocol and waited for police to arrive. They were too late, and Burgess got away. This time, Zimmerman was not so patient, and he disregarded police advice against pursuing Martin. "These assholes," he muttered in an aside, "they always get away." After the phone call ended, several minutes passed when the movements of Zimmerman and Martin remain a mystery. Moments later, Martin lay dead with a bullet in his chest. http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/04/26/usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idINDEE83P02D20120426
    14 points
  4. First off I want to say thank you all so much, you are an amazing group of people and I am prod to know you as my DV family........So I went to the surgeon today and he did not do a biopsy, he did an ultrasound. He said that and the CT report points to me having alot of Endometriosis on my uterus....the first week of June I am gonna have it removed and he thinks I will be fine....I have no idea why one Dr. said it was on my abdominal wall and the Dr today says its on my uterus, I didn't even think to ask that til I left......Thank you all so much, your support has meant alot to me.......Renee
    12 points
  5. While hiking down along the border this morning, I saw a Muslim extremist fall into the Rio Grand River. He was struggling to stay afloat because of all the guns and bombs he was carrying. Along with him was a Mexican who was also struggling to stay afloat because of the large backpack of drugs that was strapped to his back. If they didn't get help, they'd surely drown. Being a responsible Texan and abiding by the law to help those in distress, I informed the El Paso County Sheriff's Office and Homeland Security. It is now 4 PM, both have drowned, and neither authority has responded. I'm starting to think I wasted two stamps.
    12 points
  6. later. another one bites the dust.
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  7. Anyone else find that suddenly the Dinar side of DV is boring? Perhaps I have just gone through an overdose of Iraq "news" that doesn't really make a darn bit of difference in what we are waiting for. Perhaps I have just become too bored with the non-dinar stuff and am feeling that boredom when I come to look at the dinar stuff. Then again, maybe I am just finding that my dinar saturation point has been reached. Because I am finding the Dinar news so unworthy, I have spent more time in the past few months checking out the off limits postings. Seriously, this penchant for bashing the American political scene and the lack or respect shown by Americans for the American political process, has caused me to stop even checking what may be an interesting headline. Usually who posted it tells you before hand if it might be something interesting or something along the lines of political bashing. That narrows my possibilities on the site to non bashing posts ... which narrows it quite a bit. We have a new thread now, the music and video scene. And, I will admit that I occasionally go and check out something that seems interesting. But when someone starts putting those up on the forum, they tend to push a lot of the other stuff past whatever limit is established for current input and old stuff and a day at a time we have a flood of music and video and not much else, unless you include the bashing ... it never stops. That leaves, basically, the Dinar news. Usually, though it isn't really anything that notifies us of a galloping RV about to hit, it does have some sort of issue that we can follow through a few days of postings. And some of those postings bring some interesting comments. But recently, there has really been nothing much that really seems of interest. So, I am bored. I find that coming to check the listings is not longer the fun it used to be. I no longer hold out hope that there will be a rich nugget of something worthwhile snuggled down in the midst of all the "stuff" on the site. Where I used to visit several times a day, for hours at a time, and relished the thought of what I might find, now it is a struggle to show up a couple of times for a very few minutes each. I even find myself sort of dreading it but feel that if I don't show up at least twice a day, once early and once late, I might miss something good. So, lets see if anyone else has this feeling of boredom with the site. Even some of the questions and polls and "groups" that seem to be forming, seem to have dried up. What do you think? smee2
    10 points
  8. After considering the number of articles, reports, or speeches we have heard over the past few years concerning the dinar, I have come to the conclusion that if you don't read the articles and reports or listen to the speeches you are uninformed. If you do read the articles and reports and listen to the speeches you are misinformed. (via Mark Twain)
    9 points
  9. So there was a fly flying around a barn and found a huge pile of cow poo. He landed on it, and ate, and ate, and ate. Finally when he was full he tried to take off again, but no matter how hard he flapped his wings he couldn't get off the ground. Nearby he seen a shovel, so he waddled over to it and climbed up the handle to the top and flapped his little fly wings and jumped! No matter how hard he tried to fly he kept falling until he hit the ground and SPLAT! No more fly! MORAL: If you are going to fly off the handle make sure you are not full of **** first!
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  10. For those of you in this investment that cherish the WORD of GOD and truly believe HIS hand is upon you and your every step...allow me to offer you something to meditate on in prayerful thought.... Proverbs 25:25 "As cold waters to a thirsty soul, so is GOOD NEWS from a far country." Lord refresh us, refresh our "thirsty souls", refresh our finances with the Revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar, just as your WORD says, it would be like "cold water to a thirsty soul"...refresh us with "GOOD NEWS" from Iraq, in relation to America, a "far country", with the Revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar, so that those of us who receive this word, and know that it is nothing less than a Blessing from YOU, may put a smile on your face, and BLESS others as well as enjoy it ourselves. I thank YOU for this WORD....In YOUR Holy, Precious Name, JESUS CHRIST of NAZERETH, AMEN, and AMEN....
    7 points
  11. I know it's hard to read, but it's also very informative. BondLady Chat with Scooter (4/25/12) April 25th, 2012 02:30 pm · Posted in CHATS & POSTS [scooter-EG] So [scooter-EG] How can I help today [bondLady] Hi Scooter, and ty so much for coming to our little Corner of the Net !!!! [bondLady] me and some of my team discovered something a few days ago and have been working on it and kind of came to a standstill on it, as to what it could possibly mean to us as investors, and or the CBI, why would this Economic Data show such a huge change… from a deficit … to a surplus…….and i want to thank you so much Sir, for coming to our Corner and helping me and all our members try to make sense of this….. this is what we discovered……. [bondLady] ECONOMIC DATA 4/2/2012 2012 Forecasts GDP – real growth rate 12.6% Budget deficit/GDP 10.0% Current account deficit/GDP 4.5% Net foreign reserves $60B [bondLady] the deficit hardly ever changes [scooter-EG] the sudden changes at the CBI — I know — it comes acrsss very odd doesn’t it [bondLady] yes [scooter-EG] but actually it makes a lot of sense [bondLady] then all of a sudden 18 days later…. [bondLady] ECONOMIC DATA 4/21/2012 2012 Forecasts GDP – real growth rate 11.1% Budget deficit/GDP 10.0% Current account surplus/GDP 9.1% Net foreign reserves $60B [bondLady] deficit of -4.5% to surplus of 9.5% [bondLady] help us out here brotha please [scooter-EG] See what happens in iraq [scooter-EG] in this case [scooter-EG] first [scooter-EG] Iraq’s budget [scooter-EG] When the Iraqis provide a budget or submit [scooter-EG] a budget — they submit two of them at the beginning of the year [scooter-EG] one [scooter-EG] an agreed upon [scooter-EG] and the second [scooter-EG] a proposed [scooter-EG] What they’ve been doing is having the published AGREED upon budget [scooter-EG] sent out to the public [bondLady] ah [scooter-EG] While still maitaining the fidelity of the Transparency [scooter-EG] they sneek the proposed budget on the mof [scooter-EG] website [scooter-EG] they’ve been doing this for the last four years [scooter-EG] so [scooter-EG] what does that mean to us [scooter-EG] in 2010 [scooter-EG] They’ve had a ratio of $2.05 [scooter-EG] in 2011 [scooter-EG] they had a ratio between the two budgets of $1.27 [scooter-EG] and 2012 [scooter-EG] it came in at [scooter-EG] one second let me see [scooter-EG] the spreadsheets are on their site [scooter-EG] it’s a little bit of digging however. [scooter-EG] Here’s some links where I break this out (Sorry Guys Had to Remove LInks)[scooter-EG] that’s 2012 [scooter-EG] when you open it [scooter-EG] what you’ll see at the top is the AGREED upon and PROPOSED budgets [scooter-EG] goto the far right of that [scooter-EG] Those are ratios [scooter-EG] not rates [scooter-EG] i repeat [scooter-EG] not rates [scooter-EG] Here’s why [scooter-EG] They need a way to pay for this RV — and that comes from the primary and Secondary Bond Markets [scooter-EG] We’ll get to that in just a minute [scooter-EG] Now — 1.48 [scooter-EG] What they’ve done is this [scooter-EG] from 2006 up until 2010 [scooter-EG] they’ve had this setup [scooter-EG] as a result — they spend at one level [scooter-EG] but store the excess funds [scooter-EG] and the reason for this is simple [scooter-EG] When the RV/RD — I like Slow Hybrid myself [scooter-EG] when this goes down [scooter-EG] They will [be] require[d] to have those funds and allocate those to the provinces [scooter-EG] back down to the people [scooter-EG] now [scooter-EG] that’s the first item as to why those CBI numbers changed so swiftly [scooter-EG] the second one is bigger [scooter-EG] The “Drainage Funds” [scooter-EG] If you remember [scooter-EG] when Iraq does a budget [scooter-EG] they come out and base the budget on the value of each barrel of oil [scooter-EG] so for example in 2010 [scooter-EG] I believe they budgeted for $62.50 a barrel [scooter-EG] however [scooter-EG] the actual average for that year [scooter-EG] was closer to $78 – $80 [scooter-EG] those funds are Drainage funds [scooter-EG] and held off until the complete budget process goes throught the independent audit and then the final audit with the BSA [scooter-EG] BSA — Board of Supreme Audit [scooter-EG] that process alon can take 18 – 24 months after that calendar year [scooter-EG] as a result [scooter-EG] Iraq has been stockpiling some serious funds [scooter-EG] now [scooter-EG] as to the Debt [scooter-EG] the Paris Club debt — primarily the G20 Credit nations [scooter-EG] forgave 80% of their debt [scooter-EG] but [scooter-EG] big However [scooter-EG] the Arab countries [scooter-EG] DID NOT [scooter-EG] and that debt was equivalent to the sum of the all the debt from the Paris Club members [scooter-EG] I think the total sum was close to $`124 Billion [bondLady] wow [scooter-EG] They recieved some relief [scooter-EG] and I’m not certain what that final number was — but most likely those neighboring countries are sharing some oil wells with the Iraqi’s [scooter-EG] Now [scooter-EG] with that said [scooter-EG] what they are doing right now? [scooter-EG] ohhh [scooter-EG] hold on [scooter-EG] one more item [scooter-EG] actually two more items to remember [scooter-EG] one [scooter-EG] we don’t know what those assets which were frozen are [scooter-EG] I mean the amount [scooter-EG] another item is the funds that were issued to US Treasuries [scooter-EG] for example [scooter-EG] we know there was 89 Billion invested in US treasuries from the DFI [scooter-EG] and during that time of the the DFI [scooter-EG] there was an additional 84 Billion in interest — i have that audit report for those interested [scooter-EG] so here we have Iraq that was showing a massive deficit [scooter-EG] comparitively speaking to GDP [scooter-EG] and on paper it was close to $15 Billion [scooter-EG] and the fact was — they never really had a deficit [scooter-EG] lol [scooter-EG] I laugh at that one every time I see it [scooter-EG] sorry [scooter-EG] anyhow [bondLady] right [scooter-EG] For example [scooter-EG] in 2010 — I believe the drainage funds alone were close to 25 Billion [scooter-EG] just collecting interest in us treasuries [scooter-EG] protected completely worldwide by the US Government [scooter-EG] In fact, there was an article recently that indicated the sum of funds [scooter-EG] including the assets since 1990 was close [scooter-EG] to 816 Billion [scooter-EG] not certain if thats the case [scooter-EG] but it was certainly something to pause and take a closer look [scooter-EG] oh yes [scooter-EG] here’s some other flash files for your review to show 2010 and 2011 [bondLady] ty [scooter-EG] np — just give me thirty seconds [bondLady] np at all take your time page 2 [scooter-EG] ok [scooter-EG] that should provide some data points for reference [bondLady] ty [scooter-EG] those spreadsheets are directly from the Ministry of Finance site [scooter-EG] What you’ll find are the two budgets I spoke of earlier [scooter-EG] so the question comes about now is what happens next [scooter-EG] well — there’s two items that are big ones for me [scooter-EG] one [scooter-EG] those two government banks — Rafadain and Rasheed need to be Devalued to todays level [scooter-EG] once that’s completed — the IMF will raise their capital to the right amounts [scooter-EG] see what happend is this [scooter-EG] back during the Saddam era [scooter-EG] the value of those assets were calculated at the $3.21 rate [scooter-EG] and those assets are still on the Balance sheets at that level [scooter-EG] and it’s completely incorrect [scooter-EG] so for example [scooter-EG] the Rafadain bank shows Assets of 371 Trillion IQD [scooter-EG] when in reality it’s really closer to 40 trillion IQD [scooter-EG] These banks do over 90% of all transactions [scooter-EG] don’t be frightend by this lower number [scooter-EG] this is a good thing [scooter-EG] It’s the primary reason they haven’t progressed farther then they are right now [scooter-EG] Nevertheless, that will be taken care of [scooter-EG] but it is funny that the TBI now has a higher value than the Rasheed bank [scooter-EG] now to the bond market [scooter-EG] If you look at the CR reports of the past from the IMF [scooter-EG] They made it abundantly clear they Iraq must Privatize those SOE’s [scooter-EG] State Owned Enterprises [scooter-EG] approximately 108 of them [scooter-EG] these are the big insurance companies, utility companies, power companies [scooter-EG] those companies are the same companies that will form their BOND market [scooter-EG] and so the question for most is why is that important to my investment [scooter-EG] simple [scooter-EG] the primary bond market provides the liquidity for the government [scooter-EG] and pays for any type of increases in monetary value [scooter-EG] that may or may not occur [scooter-EG] in the future [scooter-EG] when the primary Bond market is built [scooter-EG] then the international players can come in to form the secondary bond market [scooter-EG] those Bond markets are CRITICAL to our scenario [scooter-EG] some of this has been done — but they have some more task to complete [scooter-EG] the other important [scooter-EG] item is the immediate need to form capital in that country [scooter-EG] for example, the ISX [scooter-EG] when you compare Iraq to a neighboring Jordan, whose rate is close to $1.48 [scooter-EG] something like that [scooter-EG] Jordan’s Stock Exchange is running at over 300% of their GDP [scooter-EG] I think that’s correct — not certain but I will verify [scooter-EG] but Iraq [scooter-EG] Iraq is only running at 3.5% of their GDP [scooter-EG] Saudi Arabia is running at 45% [scooter-EG] I think Kuwait is similar [scooter-EG] so they need the capital to form and form quickly [scooter-EG] none of this can occur until those BOND markets form [scooter-EG] and that won’t occur until those two government banks are revalued or Devalued [scooter-EG] Ok [scooter-EG] scooter diatribe complete [scooter-EG] how did I do [scooter-EG] sleeping [bondLady] u were awesome [scooter-EG] sorry — that was a major brain dump all at once [bondLady] nope totally brilliant [bondLady] yes but we wanted to know and we had come to a stand still [scooter-EG] brilliant and the name Scooter in the same sentence – Not Possible lol [bondLady] and i ty so much scooter [bondLady] if its ok scooter… [bondLady] i have an article id like u to see [bondLady] ok here it is and ty so much [scooter-EG] What article are we talking about [bondLady] ty elizabeth for this article….. CBI confirms the abandonment of an auction sale of foreign currency 25/04/2012 11:21 Baghdad, April 25 (Rn) – The Central Bank of Iraq Wednesday, about his quest for the transfer of an auction sale of foreign currency (the dollar) to a commercial bank government, saying the auction is not within its terms of reference, and criticized in a living the same accusations made against him on the mechanism adopted by the sell the currency. And saw the price of the dollar compared to a rise in local currency during the past few days, which officials attributed to a local banking companies, the central bank to stop sales of hard currency. And picked up local media reports about the widening phenomenon of smuggling hard currency from Iraq to Syria and Iran to the border crossing points unless confirmed by the CBI. The deputy governor of Bank of the appearance of Mohammed, told the Kurdish news agency (Rn) “It is time for an auction sale of currency out of the Iraqi Central Bank, and shall state that a commercial bank, Vmzad sell the currency does not fall within the competence of the Central Bank of Iraq.” [bondLady] He explained that “all banks in the world does not work that way, and we we were in the central bank finance foreign trade and this is not our job, and I will work hard with other government institutions for the transfer of an auction sale of foreign currency to the state commercial bank.” [bondLady] The Deputy Governor of the Bank “Unfortunately the policy of intervention the central bank in the market to maintain the stability of the Iraqi dinar ended in foreign trade financing to the private sector, because of the unity of the Iraqi economy (oil), and the market required graduation dollars under various pretexts legal and illegal, and there are worn out to get the currency including the difficult does not serve the Iraqi economy. ” [bondLady] He continued that “the Central Bank of Iraq lies in its mission to intervene to absorb liquidity, and will deal with the bank which will be an auction sale of currency in the total without going into details,” critic at the same time “the accusations made against the bank on a mechanism to sell the currency.” The mission of the Iraqi Central Bank is to maintain price stability and the implementation of monetary policy, including exchange rate policies and management of reserves of foreign currency and regulate the banking sector, while stressing the Finance Committee of parliamentary support for any efforts presented by the Central Bank of Iraq and lead outturn final to the stability of the exchange market. [bondLady] A member of the Committee Secretary Hadi’s (Rn) that “the real exchange rate and the actual government is the one who sells 1118 dinars per dollar, while the crackdown of the Central Bank to sell the currency prompted the companies to buy dollars from banks at a higher price is due.” Hadi said that “the central bank if the easy procedures for the sale of hard currency, is sure to decrease the exchange rate,” noting that “the transfer of the daily auction of foreign currency to other banks rather than the central bank will reduce one of the obstacles, and then will be the Finance Committee in support of Bank Procedures” . And that “his committee with the tightening of measures to sell the currency, but not this way, the conversion of the amount of thousand dollars to the outside should not include the same procedures for the transfer of $ 100 thousand dollars.” [bondLady] In the opinion of experts in the Iraqi economy to transform the task of selling the hard currency from the central bank to state bank may not resolve the problem once and for all. In this context, sees Majid picture that “it is possible that there will be an auction for the sale of hard currency managed by a private entity separate from the central bank, but the bank takes control of market supply and demand to be considered the only party that sells the dollar [bondLady] He said Suri’s (Rn) that “I have a perception that management of the auction by the Central Bank or any other party will not lead to any change in the current reality, but are beginning to resolve the economic problems.” Noting that “the problem is that Iraq is a country unilaterally economy depends on oil, and even tourists spend money, not an Iraqi hard currency inside Iraq. ” The parliamentary Finance Committee had warned earlier, the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers of trying to dominate the monetary policy of the Central Bank of Iraq, and limit the powers of the province, noting that this was a violation of the constitution and has serious consequences on the national economy. http://translate.google.com/translate?rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.aknews.com/ar/aknews/2/303639/ page 3 BondLady] tyvm rip it up please [scooter-EG] one second [scooter-EG] still dissecting [bondLady] take your time and ty [bondLady] and i wont ask you what the “coming days ” mean lol [scooter-EG] ok [scooter-EG] everything there sounds correct [scooter-EG] they have themselves in a dilemna right now [scooter-EG] centralized control vs decentralized control [scooter-EG] it’s a growth problem really [scooter-EG] remember — this country is in its embryonic stage of development [bondLady] right [scooter-EG] in the beginning, [scooter-EG] they absolutely required this to be centralized [scooter-EG] and now the natural economic forces are demanding decentralized movement of exchange [scooter-EG] now why is this good [scooter-EG] well, for one [scooter-EG] the banking sector is demanding this ability [scooter-EG] but remember [scooter-EG] the auctions were the biggest tool that Shabs had to control inflation [scooter-EG] decentralization of this power could have a dramatic effect on a country that relies so heavilly upon their oil revenues [scooter-EG] the volatility in the oil market alone could destroy that economy [scooter-EG] so having centralized control of those auctions has been critical to stablize the exchange rate [scooter-EG] if the exchange rate were to float [scooter-EG] could mean complete catastrophe for the Iraqi Economy [scooter-EG] however [scooter-EG] big however [scooter-EG] they might be to the point in the development where decentralization — at least a little bit — is needed [scooter-EG] stopping the auctions is nothing to be afraid or worried — in fact there’s a lot of positives in my mind [scooter-EG] it just means that they might have taken the next step [scooter-EG] Does that make any sensse [scooter-EG] I hope so [bondLady] yes it does [bondLady] and i appreciate your time in all this [scooter-EG] How we doing so far [scooter-EG] No problem — [bondLady] u are fabulous sir [scooter-EG] TY [bondLady] is it ok with u [bondLady] some of our members and scooter fans [scooter-EG] You are equally fabulous and I truly enjoy when you call me [bondLady] have a few questions for u if u don’t mind… [scooter-EG] ok [bondLady] ty so much scooter i am truly humbled [grashopa] [RickeyT] scooter, do you see Iraq surviving the 3 different factions and remaining intact as a country? [scooter-EG] Yes I do [scooter-EG] even if they Federalize their country [scooter-EG] I see them continuing to be one country [scooter-EG] here’s the reason for this [scooter-EG] there’s over 32 countries involved in this endeavor [scooter-EG] those countries won’t let that happen — unless something major occurs [scooter-EG] remember — the Lettor of Intent [scooter-EG] the loi [scooter-EG] the US — at anytime [scooter-EG] can come back in if there’s any threat to that democracy [scooter-EG] we have them over the coals [scooter-EG] in two area [scooter-EG] one [scooter-EG] the financial protections — we have their banks accounts and money [scooter-EG] two [scooter-EG] the courts [scooter-EG] if those protections cease to exist and they don’t follow the rules of engagement [scooter-EG] $100,000,700,000 [scooter-EG] that’s the amount the us courts alone will recieve instantly [scooter-EG] US [scooter-EG] I believe that’s still the case but I can verify [bondLady] unreal [scooter-EG] I think they will be unified for sometime [grashopa] [urbill] can you please ask scooter his thoughts on Ch. 7 being a possible trigger for the RV? thank you [scooter-EG] urbill I think Chapter 7 could be a trigger point [scooter-EG] however — they have a lot of things to do before they can move forward I think [scooter-EG] Let me get you a link [scooter-EG] of some of the items [scooter-EG] That stems from the world bank recent review [scooter-EG] it list out many of the task they need to get completed [scooter-EG] urbill that might help you out [scooter-EG] ok folks — I really need to get going but I wanted to say [scooter-EG] I truly enjoyed my time here today [scooter-EG] I hope that was beneficial to you [scooter-EG] all and wanted to thank you for the opportunity [scooter-EG] to talk with you [bondLady] awesome scooter [bondLady] ty so much [scooter-EG] You are so welcome [scooter-EG] my pleasure
    6 points
  12. After all the comments on this thread about uncs's decision to "give up," I would like to ask uncs a few questions: 1. Your decision to stop this investment for you was because "it" was a scam. How did you come to that decision? What bit of information was the overload point that it would never happen? I'm sure your research made you aware of some fact that was the "oh, no" moment. So what was it? 2. Why do you think that making a profit on a purchase or sell order makes this a scam? In your book is it wrong to make a profit? I purchase canvas, paints, brushes, etc. and sit down and paint a picture that I put on the market to sell. My supplies for a painting average $25. I sell it to a WILLING buyer for $275. I have made a profit of $250. Is this a scam? I paid $1100 for a million dinar. I am a WILLING buyer. After shipping and handling the profit $200 or 300 dollars. I get what I want and they get what they want. I knew it was a speculation when I bought and considered that risk. What makes that a scam? 3. Did you read something or talk to someone who convinced you that this was a bad investment? Did you ask them for their reasons for interfering with your your peace of mind since they did not have a valid piece of evidence that this was a scam? 4. How many gurus did you read and believe? Did you fall for their "hyper hope" when they said it would "RV at $46 dollars on Monday when the banks open"? Is that the fault of the dinar investment? Or is that your fault for believing false gurus? I don't expect an answer. You haven't answered anyone's questions on this thread. Personally, I think you are wise in getting out of this investment. You don't have the patience or personality it takes to profit from this investment of a lifetime. Stick close to Mommy and enjoy the meals.
    6 points
  13. That's what I was thinking. So, you sold your dinar, even though you know it is never going to hit. Does that mean you scammed somebody? Roadrunner
    6 points
  14. I don't know why your getting negged for posting info that lines up with the true evidence. Must be the IGNORANT, RACIST, MEDIA ABSORBED IDIOTS. I tried to even you out a little from these cowardly liars. Zimmerman never was the white racist assasin they made him out to be. The truth doesn't fit their agenda.
    5 points
  15. Wow. 3 Negs for bringing over a Reuters story. No reply why. hmmmm Maybe they could not handle that Zimmerman is not the gun zealot racist that the media had protrayed him to be..
    5 points
  16. I usually try not to get political on this site, but this is something that deserves comment. Following is an article about a proposal from this Administration's Department of Labor to ban kids from doing work on family farms. This is an abomination to all who have grown up in our rural and agricultural communities. But it should be a wake up call to even the most urban members of these forums. Kids who have for generations grown up on family farms are possibly the most balanced individuals that can be found in society (IMHO). This is partly due to the value found in work habits, personal responsibility and family begun at an early age. If more people grew up with these same values instead of waiting for someone else (or government) to provide for them, what a better place this would be. http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/rural-kids-parents-angry-about-labor-dept-rule-banning-farm-chores/
    5 points
  17. It's okay to be on the fence, but GOD's WORD shows us that HE loves to BLESS us, including riches. Paul says, GOD desires you to be "prosperous and in good health, even as your soul prospers." Do you pray for "good health"? Then why ask for one without the other? the Key is "your soul prospers"....your soul prospers by reading GOD's WORD, and seeking a relationship with The FATHER, the SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT..."Seek ye first the Kingdom of GOD, and all these things shall be added unto you." Keep GOD the center of your desires for the Iraqi Dinar to revalue, thanking HIM, for the opportunity HE has given us, and selfishness will not enter the equation. It is okay to want wonderful things in life...YOU are a sibling of the KING of KINGS and LORD of LORDS. And a Child of ALMIGHTY GOD, maker of all things, including riches....HE wants you to have them and enjoy them...so desire what HE wants for you and pray that way as well....not Lord "if" it be, but "LORD, your WORD says you are my Provider, your WORD says, you "love to surprise me with blessings", your WORD says....pray reminding HIM what HIS WORD says because HE says in HIS WORD, to "bring HIM in remembrance of HIS WORD", not because HE has forgotten, but because HIS WORD "cannot return to HIM void". But it cannot return to HIM at all, if you do not speak it back to HIM. Also, "Command ye the works of my hands"...See HE not only wants to Bless you with GOOD things, abundantly, and 'more than you can ask and dream", but HE also tells you HOW to ask for it, so you won't miss the blessings HE has for you....OH HE is a GOOD DADDY!!!! Do this, and you will get off the fence and into HIS Garden of Blessings which HE so dearly wants to bestow on you, HIS Beloved.....GOD BLESS....
    5 points
  18. Don't let the proverbial screen door hit your back-side on the way out the door. pp
    5 points
  19. I was playing scrabble on my daughters nook last night. I was playing against the computer. Suddenly the computer spelled DINAR. Wow I thought maybe this is an omen. Is it or is it pure coincedence? Anyone else have anything similar? Tell me your "signs".
    4 points
  20. Bottom line is this...........Miskebam knew Okie, from day one, was not basing any of his 'intel' on anything remotely resembling news articles & continued to provide him a platform to do it until the dinar community began to put the pressure on him and call him out on his lies.Okie used the ploy used by so many evil folks, to gain other's trust......that is invoking God's name, claiming to be a 'Christian ' and reeling gullible and trusting souls into his trap. Evidently there were legions of investors out there who hocked and mortgaged all their possessions to buy and obtain dinar ON RESERVE , believing the impending RV, that Okie promised them, was happening any minute. I hope that Okie truly hits his knees and begs God's forgiveness and attempts to right all those he wronged. Anything less than that is going to assure Okie a special place in hell reserved for those who defraud others at Almighty God's expense.
    4 points
  21. Zebari to discuss preparations for wekoblr (5 + 1) and exit Iraq from Chapter VII Date: Thursday, 26-04-2012 02: 42 pm Baghdad (newsletter) ...Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari with the head of the United Nations Mission in Iraq, Martin Kobler of preparations for the Conference (5 + 1) on the Iranian nuclear issue, as well as the issue of camp Ashraf (Iraq) and the fulfilment of humanitarian commitments Iraq and international population. The Foreign Office said in a statement received (News Agency news) a copy of: the Minister Zebari met Kobler today and discussed with him the issue of camp Ashraf and the relations between Iraq and Kuwait, which have improved significantly, and preparations for the next meeting of the Joint Committee of Kuwait to discuss bilateral issues, leading to exit Iraq completely from the provisions of Chapter VII. Added: Zebari reviewed Iraq's preparations for the convening of the meeting of 5 + 1 in Baghdad about Iran's nuclear program to the importance of this subject for the States of the region and regional security and compatibility with the Summit decisions in its Arabic (23) in Baghdad and not present in the "Declaration of Baghdad." Zebari stressed the importance of the United Nations Mission to carry out its tasks alionami contained in the internationalist to their assistance and support./finished/y. n/ http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http://www.ikhnews.com/news.php%3Faction%3Dview%26id%3D40354
    4 points
  22. Make your bed, and lay in it. You must have known Okie was full of it and only helping dinar sales all this time. Your hands, like Okie's have blood on them.
    4 points
  23. so this guy helps set and promote Okie's filthy lies for almost a year and then is surprised people hate his guts? He is Surprised there are consequences for profiting and exploiting people? AND then leaves links to his other sites so you can continue to support him and his other websites. I'm glad the links have been removed... And a message to all Guru's and Pumpers... to be perfectly clear... Your not anonymous and people will sell you out. If the government get's on your case it does not matter where you are, what legal disclaimers you write, or whatever else you come up with, if they want to ruin you they will.
    4 points
  24. This just floored me... maybe I'm easily impressed... but it really shows creativity at it's best!
    4 points
  25. As I recall UNCS was part of a group holding a bunch of dinar and threatened a year ago to sell if it didnt happen soon. Since he didn't follow through then, chances are he's not selling now either, just venting. Im guessing he will keep a nice stash of dinar(just in case) and probably has a little dong.
    4 points
  26. Um, if anybody wants to sum this up in, say, less than 200 words, I'd be much obliged. I got less than 1/4 of the way thru & gave up. Stupid migraine. KK
    4 points
  27. I find a slight amount of amusement from these posts and the peoples response to them over the years. People used to BEG people not to give up and sell. They used to try to encourage the person to death and attempt to convince them that their personal decision to sell was wrong. Now-days, people don't really try to talk people down off that bridge.... They just hollar.... JUMP, and stop holding up traffic. ha ha Its like fashion, it goes through phases and wide ties did come back around like everyone said they would. I still find amusement in this investment even though it is the most frustrating and discouraging emotional investment in history. Removing emotion is easy to talk about but good luck doing it when hard earned money is involved. I have seen sooooooo many people threaten to sell and actually sell via this forum over the years. Just water under the bridge... IMO.
    4 points
  28. How could a country's currency be a scam? LOL If anything, the EUR, USD, GBP, & JPY are scams! Their values are always on the decline due to excessive printing...
    4 points
  29. I'm going to vote for the Nominee against Obama. Any other vote is a vote for Obama.
    4 points
  30. [Adam Montana] Morning! I'm going to tell you all right off the bat I'm a cheerful man this morning, there is a LOT of good stuff happening now! [Adam Montana] let's close the floor and start this weeks chat [Adam Montana] Ok, first the bad news - no RV announced yet. I know a couple of guru's have "called it", but unfortunately they are (once again) jumping the gun. [Adam Montana] When the RV is REALLY announced, you'll hear it from me. Until then, I am going to keep doing these weekly chats for a few reasons. 1 - if I stopped, then newcomers would have no "voice of reason". I know there are people out there that don't like me, and that concerns me not even a little bit. I get up on this podium every week to let you know where we REALLY are in this investment, and hopefully bring a bit of sanity to this crazy ride [Adam Montana] Ooops, that was reason 1 and reason 2 I just forgot to number the final reason [Adam Montana] so here's where we are [Adam Montana] Iraq meeting with Kuwait. NICE! Changes in the data the CBI posted. DOUBLE NICE! Iraq officially dropped the intention of "removing the 0's by September". I LOVE IT! Chapter 7 and HCL still not done. Bummer. [Adam Montana] The absolute most positive thing I can take from those items is the fact that 3 of the 5 are DONE, and the other 2 are NEXT UP. It's not a matter of 'if", it's a matter of "when" [Adam Montana] unfortunately, it's very uncertain how "soon" this will happen. If you're reading the articles in the news section lately, you know Iraq is moving forward and they are very positive lately. I hope we see a major rate change by this summer, but I think the original "plan" was to do it right around September. I think they need some time to pull in some of the larger notes, and we know the average Iraqi currently prefers USD to Dinar. This is perfect if the CBI wants to gradually pull in some of the IQD that's on the streets out there. [Adam Montana] It doesn't appear that there is any way to QUICKLY pull a lot of IQD off the street, so we all have to suck it up and be patient. They aren't going to launch this thing prematurely, because that would be a recipe for failure. [Adam Montana] I know a lot of people won't like to hear that, but I guess if you wanted to be told something more "rosey" you would be reading someone else's chat, not mine. [Adam Montana] ok, that's the current "State of the Dinar" - now for the weekly questions. kcw, fire away! . [kcw] cgbrown Adam, another week has past, is there anything new on the horizon for our investment.? . [Adam Montana] Another day, another dinar... I don't think there's much other than what I just went over. We're still hanging around watching for Chapter 7 and HCL news. [Adam Montana] next please! [Adam Montana] Shoot. I'm sorry everyone, I have to pause chat for a moment . . [kcw] PBRL Hi Adam and kcw, thanks for all you guys do for us. I had a thought on the RV, with the US supporting their economy with our USD, would it be possible if we (meaning US) is holding them back from RVing until near election time. From what I understand, when Bush was in office he said before the war started that it will pay for itself. Now that everything is just about in place, and RV near election time will surely change an outcome for our current President. I might not be saying it right, but hope you have an idea of what I'm trying to say. Thanks again =P Redwizard Adam I have sort of asked this before and still trying to figure it out. If Iraq can not have an operating Army under Ch 7 and the US military has pulled out, there is no one there to protect the people or the country. I just dont see any wealth coming into this country if there is no protection. Saying this, (and I understand that another meeting is suppose to be in June) do you even see an RV before the Ch 7 is lifted? [kcw] Who would protect the people and the country which are now richer from other countries or even local thieves? TimS Adam.....With the country's new democracy in it's infancy, and all the distrust between the 3 major parties, and the mass coruption across the board that makes Iraq a free for all, Maliki's dictatorship aspirations and Iran's interferring.....do you still strongly believe the RV will happen by year's end? . [Adam Montana] one person asked if Obama might have something to do with the RV. If they might be delaying this thing until it would be more beneficial to the POTUS, inferring that Obama could use the RV to help him get re-elected. [Adam Montana] IF that is the case, and if there is any way to make that happen... I have no doubt that Obama would try to do that! Wouldn't you? [Adam Montana] Of course you would! [Adam Montana] however [Adam Montana] I don't believe an RV of the Iraqi Dinar is about the US. It's about IRAQ. [Adam Montana] Will Obama use it to his advantage? Of course. Does it hinge on our elections? I don't believe so. [Adam Montana] next was about Chapter 7 [Adam Montana] listen, I'll explain it like this. Iraq has a military. They are simply restricted in what they can do with that military due to the final Chapter 7 sanctions. One majorly important fact is that they can not use Nukes. [Adam Montana] You might initially think "So what? That's a good thing, nobody should use nukes!" [Adam Montana] but to put everything in "real world" perspective, if they RV their currency, settle the HCL issue, and recapture some of their former wealth [Adam Montana] and Iran decides "hey, I'll take that!"... what does Iraq do? If Iran pointed a nuke at Iraq and swooped in, Iraq would be taking a knife to a gunfight. It is REALLY that simple. [Adam Montana] Chapter 7 must be released in order for Iraq to successfully revalue their currency. End of story [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] Off-the-grid My first ever questions: • Do you have information regarding Central Banks holding any IQD cashed in as a Reserve Currency beyond Shabibi's / Saleh's comments? Does this strong(?) possibility affect your opinion of a possible rate? Not asking for a rate, but do you now think it could be higher if foreign held IQD will NOT be sent to the CBI any time shortly after the RV? • Hand-in-hand with No. 1, do you have any information about the "Plan" I've read about for using IQD as petro-dollars at a big discount? I tried to research our site for this with no luck, so maybe you have not said anything directly about these possibilities other that maybe becoming a Reserve Currency would be good for us. . [Adam Montana] Good question off-the-grid (I like the name too !) [Adam Montana] the answer hinges on one thing - there is no concrete proof that this plan is indeed being implemented. [Adam Montana] IF IT WAS, that would be a great way for Iraq to move forward with an RV, but since there is no proof of it we are only speculating. Unfortunately, that's the best answer I can give for now. [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] MikeRite Adam do you think a big part of the Iraq revaluation plan has been part of a bigger plan to create demand for the us dollar as other countries are now indicating a move away from it. As the world cashes in treir dinar, trillions of us dollars will be needed to payout dinar holders raising the value of the us dollar? . [Adam Montana] I understand the thought process there, but the logic is slightly flawed. Take a prime example - the US. Our debt is higher than the amount of USD currently in circulation. Obviously we could not simply pay our debt with cash, so one can also assume that Iraq can bring wealth back into existence without having to actually "pay cash" for it. [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] dinarbeleiver Ali from dinar trade is back do you think the RV is now imminent . [Adam Montana] I believe Ali had to take care of family matters, was possibly being investigated for something, and took a break. Now that he's handled his situation, he is back in business. I don't think that implies an RV, sorry. [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] ayrnay22 Question for u Adam is it possible that the us could or has implemented something similiar to the Marshall plan that they did with Germany after ww1 also the germany government was better off than iraqs and it took 25 years for the Marshall plan to get an rv of 1.65:1 this was viewed as a success what are your thoughts on this scenario . [Adam Montana] That WAS a success, and it did take a long time. However, Iraq's situation is different and I expect it to go different. To get to the root of your question... yes, it could take much longer than we hope, expect, or want. There's nothing we can do about it, we can only be patient. [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] scottch Adam, first of all let me thank you for everything you do for all of us. It has been said that the UN Security Counsil will meet in June and that the meeting will be about Iraq and chapter 7, how do we know what the meeting will be about? It has also been said that Iraq will not or has postponed the deletion of zeros from the IQD; however i have read articles on the forum stating that the Central Bank of Iraq is still planning to delete the zeros, what is your take on it? And last, what are the chances of us really seeing an RV this year, or could we be waiting until next year? . [Adam Montana] We don't know for sure what will transpire at any of these meetings. We can speculate [Adam Montana] The CBI has withdrawn their intent to remove the 0's by September [Adam Montana] and like I've said, the RV could happen tomorrow or it could take a few more years. [Adam Montana] After 8 years... what's a couple more? [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] Rubberband King Good day to you Adam and kcw, and thanks for all you do to keep us DV people level headed and grounded. My question is for the people that are currently overseas. When the RV does occur will your text be sent international as well? Thanks in advance. . [Adam Montana] yes. The text system works for all numbers, even international [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] chess ADAM: Is Okie REALLY Obama's alter ego?.....misdirection personified! thank you ADAM: Do you believe there is really 30-35 trillion IQD currency out there? thank you . [Adam Montana] I think my weatherman pays Okie to be constantly wrong, because it makes him look better. In fact, all the people that think he is paid by dinar dealers are probably wrong. It's the National Weather People that pay him to be wrong. [Adam Montana] regarding the amount of currency out there, nobody knows. The CBI lies about that and pretty much everything else. . [kcw] RobLe Hi Adam, my question is: How is it that Iraq has been removing large Dinar notes for some time now in preparation for revaluing their currency and we here in the US have endless supplies. We can go to any of MANY banks and private companies and purchase the large denomination Iraq Dinar? Each day in the US the word gets out and more and more people are purchasing the Iraq Dinar. It is as though there is an endless supply here in the United States. This just doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain this? Thanks . [Adam Montana] There isn't an endless supply, and I think the amount US Dinarians hold is less than you would imagine. [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] localcats If Iraq is supposed to join the WTO in June, wouldn't they need an international recognized currency? . [Adam Montana] Sure wouldn't hurt! [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] Rogue Knight Adam, what are your thoughts on such a large CBI DATA Change ? 2012 Forecasts GDP - real growth rate 12.6% Budget deficit/GDP 10.0% Current account deficit/GDP 4.5% Net foreign reserves $60B . [Adam Montana] Ah, good old CBI numbers again! I have some thoughts on this, but I'll keep it simple. First, keep in mind that these are only forecasts, not actual numbers. Second, if they are accurate, this could be GREAT news! But finally, third: the CBI lies. They misdirect, and they don't have a stellar record for accuracy. The only thing I count on the CBI for is to do what is in Iraq's best interest. That's one of my main reasons for staying in this investment so long. [Adam Montana] Think about it: Has the RV happened yet? No. BUT has the value of the Dinar steadily risen since 2003? YOU BET IT HAS. I'm staying in this investment because unlike so many of our 401ks, this one continues to go UP in value. RV or not, I like my chances here. [Adam Montana] That's my on the matter. As always, don't buy the "hype" - look at the facts and don't invest more than you can afford to SIT ON. [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] GameChanger Adam, thank you for all you do. I get the sense that every week is the same old thing and you give us the same old (yet it's the only thing you can do) information. So, rather than take your time and asking the same questions week after week, can you give us a few reliable sources where we can check on a daily basis (or weekly) so we can have a sense of what's going on? This site is great and provides that but we are always looking for verification, confirmation, he said/ she said. I'm optimistic and hopefully this get's going soon ie. RV. Would rather not take up your time and be able to get things as close to the source as possible. Thanks again. . [Adam Montana] See the next question for some good sites [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] waitingondinar Hi Adam, Is there any truth to the articles listed at: http://iraqdailytime...r ••• ly-times one article talks about the lifting of the Zeros almost completed. Another article I read said they want Malaki and misinformation was put in print stating the Iraqi's wanted him out of office. I usually check the following sites for news: Aswat al Iraq, Iraqi News Agency, AK News, and Iraqi Daily Times. . [Adam Montana] I'll add Buratha and of course - the DinarVets news section. Those are all great sources for current information. I think the DV news section probably trumps all, thanks to our amazing newshounds here [Adam Montana] waitingondinar, you have a good question but we have no way of predicting what will happen. I addressed this in last weeks chat in more detail [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] Danomite Adam, thanks again for all you do! My question is concerning an article I read in the news section posted by Cheevo titled " Shabibi Speaks". Shabs is quoted as saying that the project to delete the zeros of the Iraqi Dinar, which is expected to see the light of day the first of next January... My question is, does this now move our timeline out to January of 2013 or is this more smoke and mirrors? . [Adam Montana] Smoke, maybe... but like I said, the "plan" has been temporarily aborted at this time. They said the same thing back in 2010, and it was aborted then as well. [Adam Montana] i'm sure they will say it a few more times before this is all over [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] securityguy Adam; Some weeks ago in an earlier chat I asked you if you felt Maliki was the bad guy and possibly was holding up this RV for his own personal gain and to maybe make Shabbi look bad. You basically felt that was not the case. Has your feelings on this point changed? Do you currently feel they would go to the extrems of booting both S and M, and if they did, would you still be on the "September Train"? . [Adam Montana] That's funny - "S and M" The politics in Iraq fit that description! My feelings are the same now as last time I addressed it. I think we win in both situations. [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] Saint Adam, as always great to be on board this train, kcw for posting so quickly after live chat. Adam do you think what is going on with the Russian troops on deployment getting ready to help Iran militarily will have any affect on the talks going on in Iraq at this time, and if so how will this affect all the prep work already done for the RV ? Gooooo RrrrrrVvvvvv . [Adam Montana] I don't see it as a major factor, but if the UN sees this as a threat then they might move quicker on the Chapter 7 issue. This would be a good thing for us [Adam Montana] next please! . [kcw] disciple7 Adam with talks of this possibly boiling down to the end of 2012 do you still feel that the US presidential election has nothing to do with the RV? or do you think that O will try to use this as a tool in his favor to turn people to vote for his re-election? Thank you Thanks for this site, albeit I sometimes have to trade sleep for my IQD fix when I'm on a hot load and can only take a 10 hour break (which includes dinner and breakfast . [Adam Montana] You are very welcome for the site! It was always my intention to be responsible for building a site that allowed people to talk about BOTH sides of this investment, as opposed to so many other sites that simply ban anyone who isn't completely "Kool-Aided up". I think I've done a good job there, and it's a good feeling. Your appreciation makes it even better. [Adam Montana] Regarding the POTUS, if he can use it in his favor we all know he will. If the Dianr RVs within 3 months of the election, major jobs will be created, unemployment would see a huge improvement, and Obama would take credit for all of it. He'd win by a landslide. [Adam Montana] Will that happen? I don't know, we'll have to wait and see [Adam Montana] Ok, sorry for the short interruption today! Thanks for being patient and waiting for me. Oh! One more announcement [Adam Montana] A couple times a year I like to donate ad space to charities. I asked the members here what charity they wanted to see it given to this time, and there were THIRTY suggestions! [Adam Montana] We have a very generous community here, and I'm proud to be part of it [Adam Montana] unfortunately I can't give all thirty charities the ad space, so we will take a final poll to determine the lucky recipient. [Adam Montana] I'll send an email out to the members with the link shortly, please be sure to vote [Adam Montana] and finally, there's a 20% off for any VIP upgrades...but that is ending this Sunday [Adam Montana] if you are due for renewal or wanted to get in VIP, do it now! Here's the link: http://iqd.me/l/order [Adam Montana] and the code for the discount is "20for2012" [Adam Montana] That's it, thanks everyone, GOO RVVVVVVVVV!!!!! and have a wonderful day [Adam Montana] thanks everyone. one of our amazing mods will have the chat posted shortly, you can follow up there. [Adam Montana] have a great day everyone!
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  31. I have had enough! The scandals with the GSA, Secret Service, the EPA Administrator in Region six with his 'crucify them' comment. And, today the scandal with our Labor Department to ban children from working on family farms! What an OUTRAGE! What has this country come to under this Administration? If you are not infuriated by now then your apathy and indifference may result in a country our forefathers NEVER invisioned! What we are witnessing in America is Marxism taking root! How do I know this? I have lived it outside these borders and watched the elite marxists and their corrupt policies consume a once proud country to begging for a hand out! WAKE UP AMERICA we may be next!!
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  32. Apologize, wasn't able to edit my post. It is www.myspace.com/RevelationSky. Got a heart for scum that hurt others. so do I win?
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  33. Miskebam, You are the real deal and it is in your best interest to separate from a con job. The attorney is a good idea. There may be some things flowing down the pipe towards Lonnie. Pretty sure you already knew this. I'm sure from your sincerity that whatever you do it will takeoff. Kelley
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  34. So....If an oil company wanted to make the current administration look ineffectual and stupid, they might sell their refined product to China & India Gasoline in this country is high in price because of supply & demand. there is just enough supply left here after selling to these other countries, to cause the price to rise O'blah has been rightly blamed for this IMO, because of his stance on drilling. All coastlines are closed except for LA. But, is it really the oil companies figuratively flipping the bird at the EPA & the current Administration? Maybe I only have this feeling, because its what I would do
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  35. 4-25-2012 SWFloridaGuy: Some seem to feel the need to make fools of themselves week after week. It's entertaining I guess, if you like train wrecks. This is a very complicated process and we can't expect to always get 100% accurate information from any one particular source and I do appreciate that we have so many working toward a common goal, but that is absolutely no excuse for the irresponsible, unrealstic, manufactured, daily hype so many find it necessary put the rooms through on a daily basis. Unfortunately, when they post they don't also name the source which is usually a bogus prosperity package memo, nesara report or a 3 letter contact who has already proven himself to be misinformed at best. How many times do you go back to a garbage source before you realize it's garbage? By thinking they can pinpoint this or give us a play by play, they only prove they don't have a basic understanding of how involved this is. Genuine contacts, while confirming this revaluation will happen, are the first to explain they don't have all the answers and that's because they actually have a grasp as to its complexity. Many newbies who don't know the history of these "intel providers" base financial decisions upon their reports, and this has also affected some very close friends of mine in a very negative way, which is why I chose to post this. To newbies: Be skeptical of anyone claiming to know the date or rate, do your own research and treat rumors as rumors, not fact. Listen to people who report responsibly and offer a balanced approach to avoid the roller coaster. I get asked a lot who I think that group is, my personal favorites are: Capt Nemo, Studley, Kaperoni, Banker Ghost, Med, Mailman17, Poppy3, BWM, BGG, Arizona Heat, Vic1, Longfellow, Scotti G, Duckyboy, Bear5642, Bondlady, Randy Koonce, Miskebam, Sykes, Pheonix, Breitling, Historian, Delta, Ray, Steve and a few others. They may not always agree with each other but they post responsibly. When it comes to this investment, I've been wrong many times myself and am only expressing my opinions. Moving on, Parliament sources reported that the chapter VII removal is right around the corner, due to the return of bilateral relations between Iraq and Kuwait. This progress is what will lead to Iraq returning to the international environment and regaining their full sovereignty. We speculate that the UN Security Council will not release them until they raise their exchange rate. Although that is not a direct stipulation, it is a bargaining chip they use when diplomatic measures fail and one that is on our side. The international community is pressuring the major oil companies not to sign any new contracts with Iraq or the KRG and suspend all operations until the HCL/Article 11 is implemented which will bring Erbil back to the table. Tuesday the Iraqi list boycotted another preparatory meeting and this added pressure may finally bring a resolution. The Economic Commission is pushing for the restructuring of the dinar and the issuance of the LDs. They argue that the time is right to remove the zeros and raise the exchange rate. Iraq will benefit from this project in many ways and it's the only way for them to return as economic leaders not only regionally but globally. I don't know the timing and I don't pretend to, but I do know that our investment is solid and this story has a happy ending for us all.
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  36. Here's my sign
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  37. I think the reasion the flow has stoped or reversed is because there is no money left for the illegals we are tapped out ,I think it time to raid another country .....like I've said befor ....give them one month to get out ....or be charged with domestic terrorist,if that don't make them run don't know what will...and GO RV
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  38. Smee i to have seen a drastic change in the last two years especially in the way news is brought, the kinds of posts coming in to read and also the way that Adam approaches the chats with us. Not being critical of him but seems like he does his chats in a different hurried mindset than he used to. One thing i noticed is he was more upbeat in times past but still i respect him and i guess i has a lot on his plate with the business he is running. It is a wonderful thing that he does spend the time to address a chat for us and i give thanks for that. I have also noticed that the movement of members now would rather read, particpate in posts that sometimes skirts the rim of rude, sometimes dirty than a post of something good. The trend has moved from what it used to be and the interest of readers has changed. For example last week i tried to start a post of natural remedies for helping all of us and incouraged everyone to reply with a remedie, cure for health issues that all could benefit from and got very little participation and the ones that did reply were good ones and i thank you for that. It drawed over a 1000 views but for some reason people would not offer a reply of anything they knew of or their grandmother told them and it just faded on off into the dark but yet one other post of anything from jokes to dirty stuff can run forever. I am not complaining about this i am making a comparsion to how what readers want these days. I just wished the natural cure post had kept going because a lot of people would have benefited from it. Heavyduty053
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  39. Keylime, you are such a blessing to us tonight. Thank you for reminding us of HIS love for us. He is an awesome God and your words speak to my soul!
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  40. This just floored me... maybe I'm easily impressed... but it really shows creativity at it's best! Link: (sorry, I couldn't get it to open in Youtube).
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  41. Hey Wealthhhound, I have some ideas. First of all, this conference call is your idea and you are the leader of this group. So to manage it better, I suggest you take ownership of the room by treating it like a classroom, perhaps have the rules posted at the beginning. No talking without being recongized, etc., whatever you choose. If you treat it like a classroom with you as the instructor, you can either call on people or you can have attendees raise their hands if they want to speak and wait for you to call on them. They can do this by chiming in the room and being recognized by the moderator (you), (I've heard this done, but don't know the process), or you can have people type in "hand up" and then you can call on them. Also time limits fas each speaker jumps in to contribute might work. I tried to jump in a few times and take back ths conversation, Just spent too many years teaching adults, i guess, but later I realized that in this forum it is not my job to control it. Sorry for my interruptions, but lthe old firehouse horse always wants to run to the fire. haha And like I said, I just spent too many years teaching large college classes, and to do that effectively and successfully, I had to own the room, which meant I had take ownership of it. But I do know this--as long as you have a clear agenda and take control, it will go amazingly better. This was just our first time with such a large group, and to be quite honest, I thought it went amazingly well given that none of us had experienced so many people in the room, most of whom are willing to speak up. haha I loved bamagirl's accent. I could just sit and listen to her for hours.<grin> It'll get better as we go along. I am sure of it. Enjoy the Eker conference. You'll come home a changed woman. LOL Fran
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  42. Adam I think Ski misunderstood is all, she is never disrespectful to you or your comments....
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  43. Amen...it is hard for me to pray for the RV, I am always afraid I am wanting it for selfish reasons and to an extent I am but I also plan to be a help in this world....so I stay on the fence on whether it's okay to pray for it..
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  44. mmmmmmmm --- kind of the {thinking i had this week } need too have a back up plan !!!! also going too keep mine {little bit i have } and give it too my great grand son ,,i do not have yet,, by then ,,,this will be found on the antique road show ,,and worth 50 hundred thousands {like the iraq folks spell } 500,000 .oo hahahaha ! but don`t kich the guys getting out,,, we do not know what they are going through on their side of life ,, although ,,,25 million is a butt load ,,,someone PUMPED THE HECK OUT OF THAT POOR GUY
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  45. It's funny how BondLady said she discovered the Economic Data change, she discovered it here after fnb posted it. but I liked scooter's breakdown, thanks for the post.
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  46. You must be TimS that got booted and has a little sand in his GiNER!!!! Personally If I lose it all, I was prepared to do so..... Does anyone have any OFF..... Bugs are gettin bad round here!!! :lmao:
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  47. I would rather take a chance on Romney than give Obama another chance at flying around in OUR planes spending OUR tax money giving his family fantasy vacations fit for a King. I don't believe a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. A vote for Romney is a vote AGAINST Obama. All I care about at this moment is getting that POS out of the White House. I'll take my chances with Romney. He may continue on the PTB course, but not at the pace Obama is on. Maybe, by then, the rest of the American people will have awakened to what is really going on.
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