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  1. Parliament end the first and second reading for (11) bill 4.2.2012 | (Voice of Iraq) - add comment - Baghdad (news) ended the House of Representatives in the morning session which was chaired by Najafi, and the presence of (210) vice reading the first and second of (11) law, including the law of the official language. source said representative (agency news) said on Saturday: The House of Representatives ended in its eighteen attended (210) deputies and headed by Osama Najafi first and second readings of some important laws. He pointed out: that the meeting was the first reading of the labor law and the first reading of the proposed law the grant of monthly sports heroes and bill for the care of women that do not support her proposal Welfare Act childhood. He explained: that the House of Representatives ended the first reading of the draft law on Iraq's accession to the Convention on the Protection and Promotion of the Diversity of Cultural Expressions. He added that there are laws that have been read a second reading, including Provident Fund Act Alkmarki and the integration of Bank of the Socialist Bank of Mesopotamia. said: that the most important laws that has had a first reading at today's meeting is the official language of the draft law will be the introduction of the Kurdish language in addition to the Arabic language to accompany the currency in which the deletion of zeros in the time of the later date. Read more: http://www.sotaliraq.com/mobile-news.php?id=42045#ixzz1lQFtcWog I guess they talking about what gonna be on them, I thought they was having 3 languages to include English.
    12 points
  2. The good news? Here goes: First, in their article yesterday about what would be voted on today, there was no mention of this reading. Obviously, somehow, it got re-prioritized and moved up on their schedule. Fabulous! Secondly, we've all seen them use crazy names for these bills, whether it is from poor translation or.......when they just hack a line out of the bill and call it that. Examples in this same article are: -bill for the care of women that do not support her proposal Welfare Act childhood -first reading of the proposed law the grant of monthly sports heroes Understand what I mean? Just because they're referring to the "languages" doesn't mean that that's the subject of the bill. The bill is about CURRENCY - that's a good thing to hear? Damn right it is. Thirdly, I never believed that they would even mention any currency law that they would be acting on in the press. Remember, they control the media's access to parliament. My belief was that if the bill for currency ever came up, that they would excuse the media from the session, and do both readings consecutively, behind locked doors. They called this a "first reading". It is entirely possible (IMO) that they did both. All right, you all can hit me now, but not in the face, OK?
    10 points
  3. Obama defied a direct court order to produce the documentation proving he is eligible to be a Presidential Candidate..he did not comply with the subpoena. If anyone else would have done that, like you or I, we would have been cited for contempt, thrown in jail, and fined. I'm not saying one way or another if he is, or is not a naturalized citizen, but he should have set an example by respecting and upholding the law, and appeared in to end all of this ruckuss once and for all. What does he have to hide? The burden of proof lies with Obama, read the order below: http://www.art2superpac.com/UserFiles/file/Swensson-PowellvObama,NoticetoProduce,GeorgiaBallotAccessChallenge.pdf You really think it's OK for a sitting US President to be above the law? He has trampled the Constitution over and over again since being elected, and backpedaled too many times to count. Oh, and just in case you're wondering, I'm NOT a Republican..I'm an American who wants a President who will stand for the Constitution, not special and corporate interests. I realize he is not the first bad president we've had, but enough is enough. If you wish to continue to buy into his used car salesman bit, and guzzle the hope-n-change Kool-aid, you may be in for one hell of hangover when you finally snap out of it.
    10 points
  4. Dear Deenarians, A couple of weeks ago I posted some interesting information regarding the removal of USD as the primary method of exchange with a target date of Feb. 1st attached. And, indeed, on Feb. 1st the auctions stopped and we gained some significant credibility with those of you who exhibit both sensibility AND manners. Well, guess what folks...our good friend Duckhead reached out and got a very detailed update from a mutual buddy that maintains contact with this contractor that we originally mentioned. The information is as follows and at this point I would like to state several obvious facts: 1.) The monetary change occurring in Iraq is exceedingly complicated with many layers of informed participants. Thus, the separation of those in Iraq with actual knowledge of the proceedings vs. those who appear to be bereft of any intelligence whatsoever regarding the deenar. 2.) Duckhead is awesome for bringing this update to us and deserves many kudos from us all. 3.) SteveL, we see you looking so go ahead and copy and paste this to your site as well. I am 200% certain that Our intel is as good or better than yours, so go ahead and make fun if it helps you sleep at night. Good night folks, SSI Dear SSI, Ok, I posted the other day that we had a call in to our contractor buddy in Iraq. Our local friend heard from him today. This is in no way any special intel or date and rate predictions, simply passing on some information that I would want any other member to share with me if they had the contact. I think you will find the information interesting and goes along well with what we on the net are seeing in the articles. He works as a state department contractor in Baghdad. These are a few of the points that he made. Some good and some not so good. Our buddy that was speaking to him today asked him what the mood seemed to be like in Iraq. The contractor said that there seemed to be a very pessimistic outlook from the Iraqi citizens with respect to the blocs coming together to end the disputes between them. There is a very strong undercurrent of in fighting that few Iraqis that he knew thought would ever end. He also said that he as well as other contractor friends of his were ready to get out of Iraq as they feel as if they cannot trust many of the Iraqis. He was asked about hearing any rumblings of the borders closing and he said he has heard nothing in that regard. The conversation then moved to discussing currency. I found a couple of things interesting in this regard as it plays into what we hear on the forums and through articles everyday. He was asked about the removal of the USD from circulation as we discussed at the beginning of this thread. He said that in the beginning of their stay, they were being told that the removal of the USD from the streets was to be completed by the first of this month. He said that there was unexpected resistence by the citizens to turn the dollars over. The assumption was that with all of the "propaganda" coming from the CBI with regard to a "strengthening dinar" the citizens would be easily convinced to surrender the USD. Then in mid project, there were new objectives or a change in CBI plans and they began releasing more USD on the streets again. (hence the 2 consecutive weeks with $200,000,000) auctions. This puzzled many but the citizens embraced it because they trust the USD. Recently now, the auctions have basically stopped as a result of the flow of USD to Iran. This apparently concerns the CBI tremendously. According to the contractor, the border crossings are very tight and people crossing are scrutinized. Two of his contractor friends acutally had immunity leave (or something like that) to travel freely and they were arbitrarily detained for three days when trying to cross into Kuwait last week. According to the contractor, at least he and his friends are ready to get out of Iraq. The contractor also has regular conversations with who he says is a top guy at the US embassy. He said this person says that everything is in place to implement a monetary change in Iraq. This person says that he feels that the USD are in the streets by design as the lower USD denominations will be used temporarily with the new denominations for the dinar in order to have small enough notes to make change in the market easily.This will stay the case until ALL of the new denominations are in the market place and Iraqi citizens have restored their faith in their own currency. He also said that many of the Iraqis have specifically told him that they will not relenquish the USD until their currency can be used instead. He assumes this means that in order to accomplish what they want, the dinar will need to be at least on par with the USD. This also created an atmosphere where the large (3 zero) notes would be handed over without much question. This obviously was a masterful plan. Anyway, I know I have rambled a bit but I wanted to pass this along as a follow up. Like I said, this is no claim of sensitive intel, so "In Iraq" critique this all you want, but I thought this was interesting if nothing else. DH
    9 points
  5. sounds like some one got to him or his family
    9 points
  6. Hey folks, DH just sent me this ad on that goes on our update tonight. Very interesting: I forgot to mention something important. He said that the private contractors have been told that they can no longer be paid in USD! And they are getting impatient because they haven't been paid since they were told this.. cant believe I forgot that. That's huge. He said if they aren't paid soon, they will all leave. Fyi- this guy isn't private so its not him saying this.
    8 points
  7. And I'd like to post some updates: Oakie and Bulldog were caught wondering a KFC parking lot near RTE 12 in Oklahoma City wearing nothing but thong underwear holding up signs saying "It RV'd!!! Doesn't anyone believe in the term 'NUFF SAID' anymore?" Dan and Tony's mini-van was infiltrated by girl scouts to whom they owe money to for unpaid cookie orders. Word is they paid in 50 Dinar notes and claimed the revalue would happen within the week. That was in 2004. Obama and the Bush's screen names are BellGrits, Debtarheelgirl and Bluedog. Footforward took 3 steps back. He is negative 12 feet now. Med needs a new Mailman. Breitling was just named "employee of the month" for ISX internet marketing. Phoenix was caught in an earth quake in Virginia while drinking IceHouse beer and celebrating the alignment of the celestial mamogram. (whatever that is) It was revealed that Scooter has no legs. Hence the name. Studley's only background in currency trading is swapping a dollar for a cheeseburger at the local McDonalds in Otawa, Kansas. Adam's real name is Mich Egelstien. And last but not least, Bondlady will need exactly that. So I've heard. Apparently she walked out of 'Chico's' without removing the plastic sensors on her new sweat pants. Well, I am off to dinner. Enjoy the weekend! Hugs to all invested!
    6 points
  8. only? that would be incredible.
    6 points
  9. Me Personally, I've only been invested for a little over a year now but I'm sure that those who have been in this for 7 or 8 years, certainly wouldn't agree that there has been ANYTHING QUICK about it!
    6 points
  10. My thoughts exactly! I thought this judge was leaning the other way a few days ago? My dog is more eligible (and qualified) to be president than this imposter!
    6 points
  11. This is from me: I just verified content of video with someone on my team here who speaks Arabic fluently. I asked him to translate . . . Note: I have never mentioned the dinar to him before today! He said . . . All they’re talking about is dropping the zeros off the currency and raising its value. He started talking about how much it costs now and what it will become after. They were saying. . . They want Implemented by next year but most of parliament wants it done earlier. Most of parliament is in agreement and are positive. About 20% minority doesn’t want it done because it will create too much overseas importation and that’s its not good for national economy. They mentioned that it’s a decision that could happen at any moment! Me: so if I had a 25K note after they revalue him: then said it would be worth . . . he paused and said holy ****. Just thought I’d share. GO RV http://vodpod.com/watch/16037305-video-economic-conference-on-dropping-of-the-zeros-not-translated?pod=
    6 points
  12. If your not a christian and try to live with christian values in your life then this posting is not of interest to you.It has been signed into law now that churches or any faith based organization that has employees will have to start paying for birth control now or be fined $2000.00 per year for not doing so. Seperation of church and state which has been driven into our heads for years has also some what restrained the govt from attacking the churches because they wanted to drive the christian faith into a corner and not be bothered with it. Now faith based organizations and christians is being strong armed by the govt to choose whether they will violate the law and pay the fines or go against christian principles and use church contributions to pay for it. Using money given for God's work to pay for birth control is wrong and will be condemed. The insurance lobbyists and the ACLU is celebrating a victory right now because this is the beginning of driving a stake into the heart of the christian faith. This is the first assault deep inside the church by our govt and it will not end there. God has tried for many many years to get people to recognize that we are responsible for letting this his christian values be driven into a corner and this nation is suffering the consequences. Its not hard to understand the term you will reap what you sow. This assault is just to get inside the door. It will effect all christian faiths. So with God looking down on us and wondering why we are willing to let a few dictate our freedom that he give us to stand up and fight agaisnt the evil thats coming. He intentions for his children was to live in a prosperous land free to choose for ourselves to except his blessings or deny them. He gave us intelligence enough to know when things is right or wrong and how to correct them and over the years we have choosen to back down and let the atheists rule. More and more of our children are being taught that muslims is to be accepted is the coming way of life. People i am sorry if any of this offends you and if it does take it up with God i am sure he has a good answer for you. Islam is not about christians values it is about CONTROL over the masses and Obama is talking about his christian faith out of one side of his mouth and making assurances to uphold muslims out of the other....The Bible says to beware of wolves in sheeps clothing, we have been warned of people who talk a good game and rule against you while your back is turned..........I firmly believe that God the creator of life is getting close to the last tick of the clock for mankind to see the error of his ways and correct them. Those who can't see or will not pay attention to the signs of the times does not understand how things are lining up just as the prophecies said they would. He is not going to step in and heal our lands with people doing the things they are doing.When the time comes for the seperation of good and evil God is going to say to his son Jesus time shall be no more and there is crying and screaming because people missed their chance to be saved. Those who believe in God this will be a welcome site and for the rest of mankind, it will be a sad sad day. If you are a christian we must pray for all non believers that they will see the light before time draws to a close......... Heavyduty053
    5 points
  13. I don't know who the P.I. group is. I know who Shabibi is and he is saying 1 to 1 so I'll take he's rate anyday and I really believe he is more reliable than P.I... Oh heck I forgot about our friend Okie oh well..
    5 points
  14. Military Rules The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps! Eleanor Roosevelt Marine Corps Rules: 1. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one. 2. Decide to be aggressive enough, quickly enough. 3. Have a plan. 4. Have a back-up plan, because the first one probably won't work. 5. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. 6. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun whose caliber does not start with a '4.' 7. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive. 8. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. (Lateral & diagonal preferred.) 9. Use cover or concealment as much as possible. 10... Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours. 11... Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose. 12... In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived. 13... If you are not shooting, you should be communicating your intention to shoot. Navy SEAL's Rules: 1. Look very cool in sunglasses. 2. Kill every living thing within view. 3. Adjust Speedo. 4. Check hair in mirror. US Army Rangers Rules: 1. Walk in 50 miles wearing 75 pound rucksack while starving. 2. Locate individuals requiring killing. 3. Request permission via radio from 'Higher' to perform killing. 4. Curse bitterly when mission is aborted. 5. Walk out 50 miles wearing a 75 pound rucksack while starving. US Army Rules: 1. Curse bitterly when receiving operational order. 2. Make sure there is extra ammo and extra coffee. 3. Curse bitterly. 4. Curse bitterly. 5. Do not listen to 2nd LTs; it can get you killed. 6. Curse bitterly. US Air Force Rules: 1. Have a cocktail. 2. Adjust temperature on air-conditioner. 3. See what's on HBO. 4. Ask 'What is a gunfight?' 5. Request more funding from Congress with a 'killer' Power Point presentation. 6. Wine & dine ''key' Congressmen, invite DOD & defense industry executives. 7. Receive funding, set up new command and assemble assets. 8. Declare the assets 'strategic' and never deploy them operationally. 9. Hurry to make 13:45 tee-time. 10. Make sure the base is as far as possible from the conflict but close enough to have tax exemption. US Navy Rules: 1. Go to Sea. 2. Drink Coffee. 3. Deploy Marines And the next... (You've got to love the military, and God bless them all.) U.S. Navy Directive 16134 ( Inappropriate T-Shirts ) The following directive was issued by the commanding officer of all naval installations in the Middle East (It was obviously directed at the Marines.) To: All Commands Subject : Inappropriate T-Shirts Ref : ComMidEast For Inst 16134 / / 24 K All commanders promulgate upon receipt . The following T-shirts are no longer to be worn on or off base by any military or civilian personnel serving in the Middle East : 1. 'Eat Pork or Die' [both English and Arabic versions] 2. 'Shrine Busters' [Various. Show burning minarets or bomb/artillery shells impacting Islamic shrines. Some with unit logos.] 3. 'Goat - it isn't just for breakfast any more.' [both English and Arabic versions] 4. 'The road to Paradise begins with me. [Mostly Arabic versions, but some in English. Some show sniper scope cross-hairs.] 5. 'Guns don't kill people. I kill people.' [both Arabic and English versions] 6. 'Pork. The other white meat.' [Arabic version] 7. 'Infidel' [English, Arabic and other coalition force languages .] The above T-shirts are to be removed from Post Exchanges upon receipt of this directive. In addition, the following signs are to be removed upon receipt of this message: 1.. 'Islamic Religious Services Will Be Held at the Firing Range at 0800 Daily.' 2.. 'Do we really need 'smart bombs' to drop on these dumb bastards?' All commands are instructed to implement sensitivity training upon receipt ***
    5 points
  15. The judge and his family were probably threaten.
    5 points
  16. OK, I just got this from my friend thru an email but then I called him to get it first hand. Now this email response is not what we want to hear so don't start hitting the neg button yet...... Email; Hi #####,,...(Stryker) Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you. Below is the information you were waiting on. In the video it is saying that the Central Bank and the Iraqi Government are discussing removing two zeros from the dinar to lessen the value and change the currency. It still hasn't been decided yet. So $25,000 would be 250.00. Have A Good Night OK, like I said I called him to get his thoughts....and to share what I know because I think it has been before Christmas since we talked. I ask him if he thought it was propaganda or did he think it sounded like that is what they were going to do. He said here lately they have been talking about several ways they could do it but he thought it is possible. I brought him up to date on the article that point to the examples of a possible 1 : 1 value and gave him this example; the new 200 dinar note would be worth what 200,000 is now and that would be close to $200.00 USD make it equal to the dollar..I ask him if that made sense and he said yes..one dinar to one dollar.... Then I ask him if he has heard anything about this and he said he has heard that it could be the same as the dollar but that's not what this video is saying and I said i know that is what is strange and confusing. I ask if they were talking about anything else and he said yes but it all came down to this, lots of talk about something is going to happen but they just are not sure what because they haven't decided yet. I ask him if he has heard them ever say removing two zero's before and he said no... He said he was watching Iraqi TV on cable channel the other night and they were talking about government getting together to get problems solved soon, meetings this weekend. There's that word soon is again. We hung up...his wife had dinner ready. OK, that's all...lopsters have your way.....but I think they are just as in the dart as we are....we wait and see.... Lets not all jump to conclusions..... we just don't know...it may happen this way but I don't think so.....
    5 points
  17. Absolutely no proof again that he is legitimate. This stinks of corruption again. The issue will never be resolved until the documents are brought forward and undeniable proof is brought forward. He will not do it because he cannot do it. I know I would gladly let anyone see my birth certificate if I was wanting a office in government or a high paying job with a federal firm. Just because a judge that was unwilling to recuse Obama has now decided he has to for whatever reason said there was insufficient evidence to try Obama on this does not mean it is right as Obama needs to be vetted. As does Romney. Or anybody wanting to be our President. Not a done deal for me. Obama is a proven liar who will lie about everything or anything. He is living a life of deceipt and lies.
    5 points
  18. http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/?p=4138 Editor’s Note: The hearing was before Judge Michael Malihi of the Georgia state Office of State Administrative Hearings. David Farrar, Leah Lax, Thomas Malaren and Laurie Roth, represented by California attorney Orly Taitz, who has handled numerous cases concerning Obama’s eligibility; David Weldon represented by attorney Van R. Irion of Liberty Legal Foundation; and Carl Swensson and Kevin Richard Powell, represented by J. Mark Hatfield. This hearing took place in the courthouse lacated at: 230 Peachtree Street N.W., Suite 850 Atlanta, Georgia 30303 on January 26th 2012 at 9am EST. Docket Number: OSAH-SECSTATE-CE 1215136-60-MALIHI Given the testimony from today’s court case in Georgia, Obama has a lot of explaining to do. His attorney, Jablonski, was a NO SHOW as of course, was Obama. The following is a nutshell account of the proceedings. Promptly at 9am EST, all attorneys involved in the Obama Georgia eligibility case were called to the Judge’s chambers. This was indeed a very interesting beginning to this long awaited and important case. The case revolved around the Natural Born clause of the Constitution and whether or not Obama qualifies under it to serve. More to the point, if found ineligible, Obama’s name would not appear on the 2012 ballot in Georgia. With the small courtroom crowded, several in attendance could be seen fanning themselves with pamphlets as they waited for the return of the attorneys and the appearance of the judge. Obama himself, who had been subpoenaed to appear, of course was nowhere near Georgia. Instead, Obama was on a campaign swing appearing in Las Vegas and in Colorado ignoring the court in Georgia. Over the last several weeks, Obama’s attorney, Michael Jablonski, had attempted several tactics to keep this case from moving forward. He first tried to have it dismissed, then argued that it was irrelevant to Obama. After that, Jablonski argued that a state could not, under the law, determine who would or would not be on a ballot and later, that Obama was simply too busy with the duties of office to appear. After all these arguments were dispatched by the Georgia Court, Jablonski, in desperation, wrote to the Georgia Secretary of State attempting to place Obama above the law and declared that the case was not to he heard and neither he nor his client would participate. Secretary of State, Brian Kemp, fired back a letter hours later telling Jablonski he was free to abandon the case and not participate but that he would do so at his and his clients peril. Game on. 5 minutes. 10 minutes. 15 minutes with the attorneys in the judge’s chambers. 20 minutes. It appears Jablonski is not in attendance as the attorneys return, all go to the plaintiff table 24 minutes after meeting in the judge’s chambers. Has Obama’s attorney made good on his stated threat not to participate? Is he directly ignoring the court’s subpoena? Is he placing Obama above the law? It seems so. Were you or I subpoenaed to appear in court, would we or our attorney be allowed such action or, non action? Certainly not. Court is called to order. Obama’s birth certificate is entered into evidence. Obama’s father’s place of birth, Kenya East Africa is entered into evidence. Pages 214 and 215 from Obama’s book, “Dreams from My Father” entered into evidence. Highlighted. This is where Obama indicates that, in 1966 or 1967 that his father’s history is mentioned. It states that his father’s passport had been revoked and he was unable to leave Kenya. Immigration Services documents entered into evidence regarding Obama Sr. June 27th, 1962, is the date on those documents. Obama’s father’s status shown as a non citizen of the United States. Documents were gotten through the Freedom of Information Act. Testimony regarding the definition of Natural Born Citizen is given citing Minor vs Happersett opinion from a Supreme Court written opinion from 1875. The attorney points out the difference between “citizen” and “Natural Born Citizen” using charts and copies of the Minor vs Happersett opinion. It is also pointed out that the 14th Amendment does not alter the definition or supersede the meaning of Natural Born. It is pointed out that lower court rulings do not conflict with the Supreme Court opinion nor do they over rule the Supreme Court Minor vs Happersett opinion. The point is, to be a natural born citizen, one must have 2 parents who, at the time of the birth in question, be citizens of the United States. As Obama’s father was not a citizen, the argument is that Obama, constitutionally, is ineligible to serve as President. Judge notes that as Obama nor his attorney is present, action will be taken accordingly. Carl Swinson takes the stand. Testimony is presented that the SOS has agreed to hear this case, laws applicable, and that the DNC of Georgia will be on the ballot and the challenge to it by Swinson. 2nd witness, a Mr. Powell, takes the stand and presents testimony regarding documents of challenge to Obama’s appearance on the Georgia ballot and his candidacy. Court records of Obama’s mother and father entered into evidence. Official certificate of nomination of Obama entered into evidence. RNC certificate of nomination entered into evidence. DNC language does NOT include language stating Obama is Qualified while the RNC document DOES. This shows a direct difference trying to establish that the DNC MAY possibly have known that Obama was not qualified. Jablonski letter to Kemp yesterday entered into evidence showing their desire that these proceedings not take place and that they would not participate. Dreams From My Father entered. Mr. Allen from Tuscon AZ sworn in. Disc received from Immigration and Naturalization Service entered into evidence. This disc contains information regarding the status of Obama’s father received through the Freedom of Information Act. This information states clearly that Obama’s father was NEVER a U.S. Citizen. At this point, the judge takes a recess. The judge returns. David Farrar takes the stand. Evidence showing Obama’s book of records listing his nationality as Indoneasan. Deemed not relevant by the judge. Orly Taitz calls 2nd witness. Mr. Strunk. Enters into evidence a portion of letter received from attorney showing a renewal form from Obama’s mother for her passport listing Obama’s last name something other than Obama. State Licensed PI takes the stand. She was hired to look into Obama’s background and found a Social Security number for him from 1977. Professional opinion given that this number was fraudulent. The number used or attached to Obama in 1977, shows that the true owner of the number was born in the 1890. This shows that the number was originally assigned to someone else who was indeed born in 1890 and should never have been used by Obama. Same SS number came up with addresses in IL, D.C. and MA. Next witness takes the stand. This witness is an expert in information technology and photo shop. He testifies that the birth certificate Obama provided to the public is layered, multiple layered. This, he testifies, indicates that different parts of the certificate have been lifted from more than one original document. Linda Jordan takes the stand. Document entered regarding SS number assigned to Obama. SS number is not verified under E Verify. It comes back as suspected fraudulent. This is the system by which the Government verifies ones citizenship. Next witness. Mr. Vogt. Expert in document imaging and scanners for 18 years. Mr. Vogt testifies that the birth certificate, posted online by Obama, is suspicious. States white lines around all the type face is caused by “unsharp mask” in Photoshop. Testifies that any document showing this, is considered to be a fraud. States this is a product of layering. Mr. Vogt testifies that a straight scan of an original document would not show such layering. Also testifies that the date stamps shown on Obama documents should not be in exact same place on various documents as they are hand stamped. Obama’s documents are all even, straight and exactly the same indicating they were NOT hand stamped but layered into the document by computer. Next witness, Mr. Sampson a former police officer and former immigration officer specializing in immigration fraud. Ran Obama’s SS number through database and found that the number was issued to Obama in 1977 in the state of Connecticut . Obama never resided in that state. At the time of issue, Obama was living in Hawaii. Serial number on birth certificate is out of sequence with others issued at that hospital. Also certification is different than others and different than twins born 24 hours ahead of Obama. Mr. Sampson also states that portion of documents regarding Mr. Soetoro, who adopted Obama have been redacted which is highly unusual with regards to immigration records. Suggests all records from Social Security, Immigration, Hawaii birth records be made available to see if there are criminal charges to be filed or not. Without them, nothing can be ruled out. Mr. Sampson indicates if Obama is shown not to be a citizen, he should be arrested and deported and until all records are released nobody can know for sure if he is or is not a U.S. Citizen. Taitz shows records for Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama, showing he resides in Hawaii and in Indonesia at the same time. Taitz takes the stand herself. Testifies that records indicate Obama records have been altered and he is hiding his identity and citizenship. Taitz leaves the stand to make her closing arguments. Taitz states that Obama should be found, because of the evidence presented, ineligible to serve as President. And with that, the judge closes the hearing. What can we take away from this? It’s interesting. Now, all of this has finally been entered OFFICIALLY into court records. One huge question is now more than ever before, unanswered. WHO THE HELL IS THIS GUY? Without his attorney present, Obama’s identity, his Social Security number, his citizenship status, and his past are all OFFICIALLY in question. One thing to which there seems no doubt. He does NOT qualify, under the definition of “Natural Born Citizen” provided by SCOTUS opinions, to be eligible to serve as President. What will the judge decide? That is yet to be known, but it seems nearly impossible to believe, without counter testimony or evidence, because Obama and his attorney chose not to participate, that Obama will be allowed on the Georgia ballot. It also opens the door for such cases pending or to be brought in other states as well. Obama is in it deep and the DNC has some…a LOT…of explaining to do unless they start looking for a new candidate for 2012. Defining “Natural Born Citizen” Tags: court, Craig Andresen, eligibility. georgia, liberty legal foundation, Obama, taitz, the national patriot This entry was posted on Thursday, January 26th, 2012 at 925am and is filed under Craig Andresen, Obama. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
    4 points
  19. CNN. Broadcasting From Shabbi's Office While Firing Up Some Huge Cigars ! The IQD Team Feb. 2, 2012 Highlights/Summary & Replay of CC Conference Call Replay - Feb. 2, 2012 [/url] 760-569-7699 Pin 769478# Thanks to Mark for the summary Dinar Banker answers all the FAQ questions about cash in procedures including their new policies effective Feb 1. for the 1st hour Great information shared by Dinar Banker - Thanks Dinar Banker from The IQD Team Highlights/Summary of Tonights News: Mike Recaps and summarizes the Latest incredible News from Iraq... Another Great News Night..... Mike's summary: Huge movement and News from the Central Bank of Iraq We've seen them go to protect their dollar We've read they have stopped the auctions Read they are Basil Compliant with the auctions...making sure they know who is buying and selling so they can cut out countries coming in and taking their reserves... They keep on talking about the change of the exchange rate and what we have been seeing over the last week and a half is They say something and then they go do it... This is Huge... Huge... the whole auction thing and everyone seeing that the auction dollars are lower is Huge because they are limiting the number of people who can be in those auctions and who can have those dollars because they have to declare who they are and where they are going...thats huge!! Helps them manage and stabilize their economy and helps them manage and keep their currency from being devalued or inflated by other countries coming into to take their wealth from all of that I have to tell you that is amazing amazing movement on the CBI Turning our eyes to Parliament and whats going on there... They have met three or four times in a row..reading bills and moving things along.... Cabinet Ministers meeting Maliki trying to get along with everybody now and loosening his stance.... saying as long as the constitution says we can do it we are fine with it...he's trying to play by the rules now Looks he is going to try to do what he wants to do by the rules which is good ..because as it goes and they get movement on Erbil and they get that power sharing agreement before the National Conference happens where they are going to choose the direction for their country from a political standpoint almost like a big convention....they are getting ready to come together and move forward Last thing we were waiting to hear about and read about is how are we going to get the wealth to the people Read about a couple of people from Parliament tells us what they want to do to get the wealth to them One member tell us there is money in the budget and we have can take it from here and here and we have the money from the border crossings....this is how we can pay to get more money in the hands of the people All positive steps on everything we said we wanted to have to go forward and it is moving fast...... It is moving at breakneck speed and I believe the next time they meet will be even better As soon as Parliament gets done with the things they need to get passed... CBI has the green light to go forward to do what they want to do Reminder Holiday coming up for Iraq People this weekend and CBI will be closed.... VERY VERY GOOD DAY....MORE POSITIVE STEPS FORWARD FOR IRAQ AND US GETTING BETTER ALL THE TIME GET R DONE The I.Q.D. Team, Ltd.'s News Articles Coverage for Thursday, Feb. 2, 2012 ECONOMY Abtan: Delete the zeros dinar a bold step and its impact will be greater if placed within the plan US DOLLAR NO LONGER OFFERED AT CBI AUCTIONS NOW SOLD THROUGH BANK TELLERS ECONOMY: Central Bank of Iraq closes its weekly session with huge sales drop Hard cash reserves ‘more than $60 billion,’ says Iraqi Central Bank Central Bank to take a new policy to avoid the dinar exchange rate affected by the neighboring countries Central Bank required banks to disclose their customers to get the foreign currency GOVERNMENT MP: al-Alwani, warns of "serious repercussions on the Iraqi economy due to smuggle millions of dollars and big quantities of gold to Syria and Iran Tahir: IS decides the return of its ministers to Cabinet Maliki does not mind Allawi Council strategic policy!! Finance Committee in the House of Representatives seeking to establish a fund to give financial stake of oil imports to the citizen Iraq's Parliament holds its Thursday session with attendance of al-Iraqiya MPs Alwani stresses the need not to pass the budget without the approval of the allocation amounts for each citizen of the oil imports NEWS ARTICLES LINK What a great night of news, analysis and discussion and Q & A ...listen to the call for all the rest of the news shared....we are getting closer every day......GET R DONE
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  20. Wow...great find my brother yota...wow, wow, wow.....OK this is the first sign that it is really in Parliament. I don't care if Bondlady is right or wrong...she keeps trying to figure this out for all of us.... this is great news.....part of Erbil Agreement is the Kurdish language on the notes meaning Erbil is about to be completed. An earlier article about article 140 money in the 2012 budget for the distribution of funds to the people.... I believe this could all be done and now they could just be spinning it out to everyone....don't count that theory out....we have heard in the past that something was already done months before they talked announced it....anyway this is great news... :rolleyes
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  21. Glad to share. We are just lucky to happen to have someone over there willing to share with us.
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  22. judge folded like a cheap lawn chair didn't do anything but snuff it out just like everyone else has, I was hoping for some backbone. This didn't prove that Obama is eligible, just referencing a previous case determined by a forged Birth Certificate. Then nothing about the fake SS# was ever pursued.
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  23. I really wish that thar Rv thingy would happen.... Id watch me sum nasker and eat sum deer sausage if it would.
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  24. Every move they make undermines our sovereignty as a nation. It's a surge towards the NWO. We should have gotten out of the UN years ago. The money they want to distribute from off shore drilling is the UN's way of getting their hands on more money because they know the citizens of the US are about to say enough is enough. We're not going to allow congress to steal from us any longer and give to an organization that wants to take away our sovereignty. Same with the gun control. When sales in December of arms goes up dramatically don't think that doesn't get the attention of the self proclaimed elite. Most importantly, as a christian nation we need to get back on our knees and pray first and foremost and then be obedient to what the Lord instructs us to do. 2 Chronicles 7:14-16. God have mercy and bless this nation
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  25. WOW you missed it, Bummer!! We all cashed in, and hangin in vagas.
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  26. Word is that this challenge cost a little less then the Johnny Depp Halloween Party the White House threw. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/these-are-the-pictures-of-the-white-houses-alice-in-wonderland-party/
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  27. Still doesn't change the fact he's a crappy Prez...the country is sinking, and he's drilling holes in the bottom of the boat.
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  28. Let Me Know If They Need Any Help .....
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  29. I HAD A FRIEND OF MINE THAT IS LEBANESE , OWNS A STORE NEAR MY HOUSE LISTEN TO THE VIDEO, HE SAID THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT LIFTING THE ZEROS, AND MAKING NEW MONEY TO GO ALONG SIDE OF IT, ALSO IF THEY REVALUED THERE DINAR IT WOULD MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR THERE PEOPLE... AND HE CONTINUED TO SAY IF THE PALISTINEIANS NOT SURE IF I SPELLED THAT RIGHT,,IF THEM AND ISREAL WOULD LEARN TO GET ALONG IT WOULD MAKE NUCH MORE PEACE, WHAT I GOT OUT OF IT, IS THAT IT IS THE SAME AS WE HAVE BEEN READING ABOUT, I HOPE THIS HELPS...I TRIED LOL
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  30. CNN. The Clown News Network. Our Guru Can Beat Up Your Guru ! February 4th, 2012 08:56 am · [b.I.W.] ok jay you tell me what statement you have read in those iraq news storys that you would be willing to bet your house on are facts??? [JayP] the question is.. why would not they NOT do that [3-BALL] hey Marcus Curtis [JayP] I would be willing to bet my house on it TODAY [MarcusCurtis] hello room [b.I.W.] on what [MarcusCurtis] Hi 3-ball [JayP] every redenomination has gone down that way.. regardless if we like it or not.. [b.I.W.] like it or not [JayP] they ALL call it a deletion of zeros.. [JayP] removal of zeros..elimination of zeros.. etc.. [JayP] that is what they call it… [b.I.W.] im not a dreamer or a pumper [JayP] and in every case.. they redenominated [b.I.W.] you think im giving pumper ammo …. lmao [MarcusCurtis] k the topic is redenomination? [*Tenmillion] 2008 ~ GOI spent over (IQD) 4 trillion (USD 3.7 billion) domestically in both May and June, and over IQD 3 trillion (2.5 billion) in July. Yet current account balances at the CBI remain high as it continues to remove IQD from the economy by appreciating the dinar against the dollar through its foreign exchange (FX) auctions. To keep inflation in check, the CBI has soaked up IQD 17.9 trillion (USD 15.1 billion) through FX auctions so far in 2008; over the same period, the GOI has transferred IQD 17.9 trillion for domestic expenditures. [b.I.W.] really [JayP] I know your not… [JayP] hi Marcus! [MarcusCurtis] Hi jayP how are you? [*Tenmillion] hi Marcus! [MarcusCurtis] I got my own view concerning RD [JayP] Great! Fun topic this evening! [b.I.W.] you guys believe what you want i will believe what i want imho those (000) ARE A TOOL THE CBI USES TO EFFECT THE MOVEMENT OF THE IRAQI DINAR [MarcusCurtis] Hi Ten how are you [*Tenmillion] wonderful [JayP] and they are thinking that maybe the CBI Numbers are not true because it does not jive with the numbers of the currency outside of the banks [*Tenmillion] lol [b.I.W.] ok bro [b.I.W.] i said [b.I.W.] i think somebody’s numbers are off [JayP] Well, we would just have to agree to disagree there that is all BIW.. I respect your opinion.. but I will just go based on historical facts.. [3-BALL] I don’t think they have 27+T outside [MarcusCurtis] even if they only have 10 trillion they can’t raise the value to 1.00 with that muc [b.I.W.] now iraq news storys are historical facts LMAO [b.I.W.] Now i have heard it all [3-BALL] Marcus how about a dime to begin ? [*Tenmillion] MarcusCurtis What is your opinion on Iraqi NEWS ARTICLES? [MarcusCurtis] well there is one thing that I don’t understand [b.I.W.] HI MARCUS [JayP] BIW… C’mon bro.. you know as well as I do.. I am talking about every nation that did the same thing [MarcusCurtis] according to wikileaks files i have read [MarcusCurtis] one of iraqs stated purpose id to dedollarize [JayP] I am not just talking about Iraqi articles [MarcusCurtis] does anyone agree with this? [*Tenmillion] yes, I agree [JayP] yes.. they have stated that as well Marucs.. [3-BALL] which would put them at least $1 [*Tenmillion] they would like to de-dollarize [MarcusCurtis] It is pretty well documented [MarcusCurtis] so if they want to dedollarize they have a problem [MarcusCurtis] if they rd they only have at the current figure outside of banks 25 billion in dollar value [parrish] Not at all. I think they RD and raise the rate. [MarcusCurtis] that is not enough to dedollarize [MarcusCurtis] so whats Iraq going to do? [b.I.W.] and for the record i never said they were not going to redenomate. I said the (ooo) storys were tools the cbi used. I feel that they will have to issue new currency but in order to do that they will have to add value to the new currency or they will be in the same boat they are sailing now… too much paper [MarcusCurtis] They need to expand the currency supply in order to fill the gap for the dollar [MarcusCurtis] now… [MarcusCurtis] consider that the budget is some 90 trillion in dinar [b.I.W.] i agree marcus [b.I.W.] lmao [MarcusCurtis] they don’t have that much in circulation [MarcusCurtis] that is dollars converted to dinar JayP] What is the US Budget [MarcusCurtis] they need around a 500 billion dollar value for their currency to replace the dollar [MarcusCurtis] at the lowest a trillion at the highest [MarcusCurtis] so this means if they RD they need to expand the currency supply 50 times to cover what the dollar does [MarcusCurtis] point to one RD where this was done [MarcusCurtis] even in a hybrid [JayP] Marcus.. do you know what the money supply was when they had a rate of 3+? [MarcusCurtis] A hybrid would be a two for one ratio [MarcusCurtis] just as an example [MarcusCurtis] kind of like france did [MarcusCurtis] and a few others [b.I.W.] thats easy it was less than what they exchanged in 2003-04 [MarcusCurtis] If Iraq does an RD they are stuck with the dollar for a long while to come [MarcusCurtis] thats if they RD straight accross [MarcusCurtis] not sure the exact number [MarcusCurtis] of the money supply [MarcusCurtis] I am not saying it will be 3.00 [MarcusCurtis] or even a 1.00 [MarcusCurtis] my only point is an RD is not always something that provides stability [3-BALL] their budget is 120T dinar [3-BALL] and with 30T dinar out [MarcusCurtis] thats just the budget [JayP] that is true.. and many times.. after a Rd.. many countries had to do it again after that.. [3-BALL] doesn’t seem feasible to me [JayP] but that does not stop them from doing it though.. [MarcusCurtis] what about money for circulation and for the people to use [MarcusCurtis] I am not saying that will stop it [MarcusCurtis] I am saying there may be a sliding scale combined with an RD [MarcusCurtis] to take the currency down to where they need it [3-BALL] I don’t see them rd until after rv [b.I.W.] stop with the cover the budget in dinar [b.I.W.] no [JayP] well, that I can agree with which would be possible.. a possibility I can live with,.. [b.I.W.] they have dollars [MarcusCurtis] And now with dollars getting scarce they can’t afford to make a lot of mistakes [b.I.W.] the budget is in dollars [JayP] because we would more likely come out ahead that way [MarcusCurtis] the budget is in dollars but the convert and give a dinar value [b.I.W.] their budget is dollars [MarcusCurtis] well most of it [b.I.W.] heres kool email we found [b.I.W.] Sept. 5, 2008 ~ The CBI, which had injected IQD 8 trillion (USD 6.7 million) worth of new dinar notes earlier in 2008, informed us that it expects a cash shipment of IQD 800 billion (USD 670 million) to arrive shortly. This shipment will consist of 32 million IQD 25,000 (USD 21) denomination notes and be sufficient to meet roughly one week of cash demand. The CBI has ordered a total of approximately IQD 3 trillion (USD 2.5 billion). (Note: TREASATT advocacy and efforts with the CBI led to the GOI being willing to accept currency printed at DeLaRue’s Nairobi, Kenya facility, which has spare line capacity. This should allow regular cash shipments to begin. [b.I.W.] same email as the others [b.I.W.] so imho they are facts [b.I.W.] those (000) stroys are just that [JayP] facts or not.. it does not take from what why currently have out there.. [JayP] the 000 stories are not stories.. they are quotes.. [JayP] quotes that Shabs or Saleh have never come out and stated are lies [JayP] nor are lies by them.. [MarcusCurtis] heres the thing [*Tenmillion] but Jay….in 2008…did the CBI numbers reflect that post up there? [JayP] and I do not think that the CBI would just put out fake CBI numbers in their financial indicators.. [MarcusCurtis] point to one RV that was over 50 percent during the entire history of money [b.I.W.] 2008 ~ How the CBI handles growing demand for the dinar will be critical, in particular on expectations management and injecting dinar liquidity into the market. The TF-BSO consultant notes the CBI is taking this situation very seriously, and when she was at the CBI this morning all the key managers were going to a meeting on the issue. She also said she had never seen such a long line of armored trucks snaking around the block waiting to get dinars in her entire three years consulting with the CBI. The CBI also issued an immediate press release today to dispel the rumors of sudden appreciation to 1,000 dinar per dollar or lobbing off any zeros to the exchange rate. The CBI’s foreign currency auction’s daily volume has fluctuated, but not substantially diminished. [b.I.W.] The CBI also issued an immediate press release today to dispel the rumors of sudden appreciation to 1,000 dinar per dollar or lobbing off any zeros to the exchange rate. [JayP] Marcus.. never.. I have never seen an instant RV that high [b.I.W.] seems like when they want to say something they do [b.I.W.] all im saying [MarcusCurtis] exactly JayP [MarcusCurtis] There has never been one [JayP] BIW… your own thing you posted proved my own point.. [JayP] they said it right there… [JayP] The CBI also issued an immediate press release today to dispel the rumors of sudden appreciation to 1,000 dinar per dollar or lobbing off any zeros to the exchange rate. [b.I.W.] correct and that was an offical statement [MarcusCurtis] So if you believe the RV will happen overnight and everyone will have a windfall then you got to believe in something that has never happened [b.I.W.] not some micky mouse web site [JayP] they are saying right there.. that they are denying the rumors.. [JayP] right… [JayP] and it goes with exactrly what they articles are saying!!! [b.I.W.] i think that was in their web site bro im looking now [JayP] no 1000x increase.. no lobbing zeros off rate.. meaning.. that if they delete zeros.. it is not just off the rate.. [JayP] it is a redenom.. [b.I.W.] like i wish just 1 of those (000) storys would be then i would shut up [JayP] BIW… you just posted that.. [JayP] that isn exactly what they articles are and have been saying.. [*Tenmillion] the issue is …..ARE the 3 zero news articles credible? [JayP] that they would delete the zeros (which is a redenomination) [3-BALL] NO [*Tenmillion] can we believe them? [3-BALL] NO [JayP] NOT a 1000x increase [JayP] which would only involve lobbing zeros off the rate [b.I.W.] jay i never said they would not delete the zeros… where did you get that from? [MarcusCurtis] I can’t get over the amount of different information about this in news articles [MarcusCurtis] its like watching fox and msnbc at the same time Raffi] MarcusCurtis [b.I.W.] i just said since the normal tools a cbi governor has at its disposal doesnt work in iraq [*Tenmillion] right…so can we believe everything we read??? [b.I.W.] ok lets look at what they can do [JayP] well, I have been watching those articles closely.. and they have all stated the same thing about the deletion of the zeros.. and they have also been clear… 25K would be 25.. 50K would be 50.. etc [b.I.W.] they can lower intrest rate [b.I.W.] wont work they dont loan money [MarcusCurtis] we can’t believe everything we read or hear in the media [b.I.W.] you can sell bonds [MarcusCurtis] I do think the CBI has to be transparent [b.I.W.] only sell to banks wont work [b.I.W.] ok what other tools does a cbi governor have to use [JayP] well, true Marcus.. but if we banked on that with Nigeria, Romania, Turkey, Zimbabwe, etc.. we would have lost a lot of money.. [JayP] and I think that we are making a grave mistake if we discredit the same stories Iraq media is putting out [MarcusCurtis] true Jay [*Tenmillion] they can use the auctions to draw in dinar [*Tenmillion] no? [MarcusCurtis] but even with a RD it leaves the issue of how are they getting rid of the dollar [parrish] So JayP what is the end result? [MarcusCurtis] and how are they going to expand the currency supply [JayP] well, let me ask about the auctions for a moment.. because Ten brings something up that I think is another important topic.. [MarcusCurtis] because they will need to expand the base by a great deal [MarcusCurtis] ok [3-BALL] so a simple rd won’t get it done [JayP] well, that is true Marcus.. but that is why i am curious about what the supply was when they did have a 3+ rate… [JayP] but about the auctions.. [MarcusCurtis] I am not sure I think it was around 40 trillion [MarcusCurtis] but don’t quote me [JayP] I do not think that it was that high.. [JayP] I actually think that it was in the billions.. [MarcusCurtis] but the economy is different you can’t go by that [MarcusCurtis] I meant 40 billion sorry [JayP] it was one of the 4 times I blew the HD [parrish] 27 billion [b.I.W.] but they are selling dollars at the auctionand getting payed in dinar [JayP] yes… I think that is about where it was Parrish.. somewhere between 30 and 40B [JayP] so logically.. [MarcusCurtis] thats back when oil was 15 to 20 dollars a barrel too [JayP] if they RD… [JayP] they can have a $2 rate.. [JayP] so logically.. [JayP] still be covered by the Fx reserves 100% [JayP] and have ample supply [b.I.W.] but they are selling dollars at the auction and getting payed in dinar [JayP] yes… I think that is about where it was Parrish.. somewhere between 30 and 40B [MarcusCurtis] thats back when oil was 15 to 20 dollars a barrel too [MarcusCurtis] the problem is the economy is structured differently today [MarcusCurtis] you’ve got to account for inflation [b.I.W.] since when does a country have to cover its money 100 percent [parrish] Actually 3+ [JayP] BIW… [MarcusCurtis] and you got to account for rebuilding [JayP] you know as well as I do.. [JayP] the CBI has stated that [JayP] this is what they want.. [b.I.W.] you think the imf is holding gold for the usa to cover all it’s paper [JayP] and they have stated they have, and desire to have the strongest currency in the region.. and that is what they are referring to [b.I.W.] why does iraq have to cover all it paper? [MarcusCurtis] I don’t know [JayP] not the USA we are talking about BIW.. [MarcusCurtis] I do know the IMF is the third largest holder of gold [JayP] Iraq.. it is what they have stated [b.I.W.] well you want to throw other countrys into things [b.I.W.] just saying [JayP] BIW.. we do not back our dollar 100% by Fx reserves [JayP] but Iraq does… [JayP] and has stated their desire to do so [JayP] that is the difference [JayP] but a redenomination is a redenomination.. no matter what country you talk about.. [b.I.W.] Where the IMF Gets its Money [b.I.W.] The quota system Each member of the IMF is assigned a quota, based broadly on its relative size in the world economy, which determines its maximum contribution to the IMF’s financial resources. Upon joining the IMF, a country normally pays up to one-quarter of its quota in the form of widely accepted foreign currencies (such as the U.S. dollar, euro, yen, or pound sterling) or Special Drawing Rights (SDRs). The remaining three-quarters are paid in the country’s own currency [JayP] I know, but a redenom.. it does not affect the money they hold.. [*Tenmillion] So Jay….how would they solve the problem of a limited money supply after an RD? [MarcusCurtis] according to lyndsey williams the IMF gets money from oil sales too [b.I.W.] so they pay a percentage of what they are going to print ?? [JayP] in this scenario… that point is not relevant since it would be a revenue neutral for them [b.I.W.] http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/finfac.htm [JayP] the IMF is not holding Dinar as a speculator that it would gain in value [b.I.W.] im asking how much iraq has to give the imf to print 30 trillon dinar [JayP] well, Ten.. they would need to print.. but I am not sure they would be too limited imo.. [*Tenmillion] I think they would like for it to gain in value at this point to help Greece, etc. LOL [MarcusCurtis] BIW [JayP] I wish that were true Ten.. [b.I.W.] ok im asking a real question here [3-BALL] Greece and etc. [b.I.W.] how much you think iraq had to give the imf to print 30 trillon dinar? [MarcusCurtis] Don’t know the answer [b.I.W.] 10 percent [onemillion] well lets some facts straight…. for one thing i never said it was not going to redenominate [kwekubruni] i am his cousin brother by a different mother [JayP] well, to his point.. the CBI has stated that it would cost about 153B to create the new notes.. which they stated would be 30B [onemillion] i have alway said they would come out with a 25 a 10 a 5 a 1 a 1/2 and maybe a 1/4 note [onemillion] this is a what i said long time ago [onemillion] as for the (ooo)storys [onemillion] i never said they were fake [onemillion] i said they were a tool used by the cbi [MarcusCurtis] In a Redenomination scenareo how can they dedollarize and expand the dinar currency to the amount they need if they RD straight accross? [JayP] ok.. [*Tenmillion] my question too [JayP] well, here is my response to that.. [MarcusCurtis] k [JayP] for one.. I am not entirely convinced that a total M2 money supply of nearly 69B if they were to redenom today would be insufficient.. [MarcusCurtis] even so that is not enough [JayP] so I would need to get more info to say that it would be.. [JayP] If it weren’t then there is no reason they could not print if they can.. which I see no reason that they could not.. but either way… [*Tenmillion] so we are assuming no RV….just a straight Redenomination? [JayP] yes.. straight Rd… but.. that is the other thing ten.. they technically could Rv with it as well though.. [*Tenmillion] right….but the question….I think….was just a redenomination [DDF] JayP why do you think a rd? [JayP] I mean.. I guess they could if you look at what they money outside of the bank would be today if they were to [MarcusCurtis] If they need 500 to 1 trillion in dinar for their economy after an RV and they wind up with 25 billion after RD thats a lot to print [MarcusCurtis] or even expand the base by that much [MarcusCurtis] they need a healthy base but it will take time to expand it [JayP] DDF.. in all fairness.. not that I think they will RD so much as that I am just saying that is definitely what they CBI wants to do.. and that the articles are correct in what they were quoting the CBI as saying.. [MarcusCurtis] they need at least 90 billion just for the budget [JayP] that is what started the whole discussion.. [MarcusCurtis] not counting what they need for circulation [MarcusCurtis] and money for people to save [MarcusCurtis] and money for rebuilding [MarcusCurtis] so the question is why redenominate straight across [Chuckles] and then what is the real loss in the scenario? [MarcusCurtis] to shrink it down to here they need the supply they would just do a hybrid RD [MarcusCurtis] The object is to remove the dollar [DDF] MarcusCurtis what is a hybid [MarcusCurtis] which currently fills 75 percent of the gap [JayP] Now that is something that I can consider as a possibility.. I mean they point to nations like Romania and Turkey that did not do any sort of hybrid, however, that does not mean that they would not do that… [MarcusCurtis] hybrid is a redenomination process where they don’t RD staight across [JayP] so, I can buy into the hybrid scenario.. [MarcusCurtis] for example they may give a ratio of 2 for 1 and adjust the currency higher in value [MarcusCurtis] to have the supply they need [MarcusCurtis] the problem here is Iraq stated they want to remove the dollar because they are heavily dollarized [MarcusCurtis] but the dollar accounts for 80 percent of their budget [Chuckles] this is what happened with the Euro because so manycountries did it at once some had a (hybrid/mix) of exchanges LINK [MarcusCurtis] and it is in circulation around Iraq [MarcusCurtis] thats why it’s a big deal if there is a dollar shortage [3-BALL] the dollars are leaving the country and now shabs has tostop that [MarcusCurtis] yes he does [MarcusCurtis] and how does he do that [MarcusCurtis] dollars flow in [MarcusCurtis] because oil is sold in dollars [MarcusCurtis] so over time the dollars gone will be replaced [Chuckles] as Marcus has stated with reserves each country allows to set what foreign reserves they will accept so when a nation decides to switch currency ISO/GSS whatever you have to take into account all these aspects [Chuckles] we see this with Iraq not wanting the Iran currency [MarcusCurtis] right chuckles [DDF] so that means I should just sell my dinars if it is going to be a rd? [DDF] on ebay [Chuckles] they don’t want to pay dollars for Riyal Chuckles] hence we see a restriction [MarcusCurtis] no that means the that there is still the possibility to make money off the dinar even in the event of an RD [MarcusCurtis] but… [MarcusCurtis] I doubt it will be a majic windfall that makes everyone millionares overnight [MarcusCurtis] you could still make some serious money from it [MarcusCurtis] but not the amount a lot of people think [JayP] I think that long term, no matter what, even in a straight RD.. [MarcusCurtis] because in a hybrid lop there is a sliding scale [JayP] providing that we can find a trader to exchange for us.. that with the new notes, there is no doubt going to be money made.. [MarcusCurtis] durring the trade you don’t trade straight accross [cls] do i have to be heavily invested to make ,, some big bucks ??? [MarcusCurtis] kind of what france did [MarcusCurtis] even Turkey’s redenomination was not straight accross [JayP] it also depends on what you consider big bucks though cls.. [DDF] so if rd what will a 25,000 note be worth [JayP] well, according to the CBI quotes.. a 25K note worth 21.5 USD [MarcusCurtis] I do know that in order to remove the dollar and use the dinar exclusively in Iraq you would need to greatly expand the dinar from what it is now during an RD [JayP] well, according to the CBI quotes.. a 25K note worth 21.5 USD [MarcusCurtis] In a basic rd A 25,000 note would be 25 [kwekubruni] jayp…that means it would 860k usd per million iqd/ [JayP] realistically though Marcus.. in a hybrid a 25K can be worth 215.00 though.. [kwekubruni] ? [MarcusCurtis] but the value compared to the USD could be 2 dollars to one dinar [JayP] would you agree with that possibly Marcus? [MarcusCurtis] which means that that note would be worth 50 us dollars and 25 dinars [MarcusCurtis] yes JP that is realistic [MarcusCurtis] even a little conservative [MarcusCurtis] but the new notes will be worth more compared to the usd [MarcusCurtis] thats how you make the money [Chuckles] though in every redenom the actually value historically goes down, correct? Initially [*Tenmillion] oh thanks Chuckles lol [MarcusCurtis] you can go anywhere from braeking even to gaining 10,000 to 50,000 per million in this senario [Chuckles] just reminding folks of precedence [JayP] whew.. finally.. I am not the one with something less than promising…. lol [MarcusCurtis] that is equvilant to a rate of 1 cent to 5 cents [MarcusCurtis] in the fictional RV [MarcusCurtis] but that is still not a bad deal [MarcusCurtis] there is the possibility you could lose everything too [MarcusCurtis] nothing is set in stone [Chuckles] yeah 250 would be a sweet spot [JayP] Chuckles ! [Chuckles] to 1 [MarcusCurtis] yes it would [Chuckles] like the swiss dinar, wait that was 150..crap [Chuckles] oops, don’t blame blame the crown [Chuckles] rofl [MarcusCurtis] Ok I will blame the umm crown royal no more drinking for you [*Tenmillion] crown royal??? [*Tenmillion] LOL! [Chuckles] LOL! [MarcusCurtis] are you driving home tonight [Chuckles] 12 hour days rot your brain [MarcusCurtis] give me your keys [Chuckles] no Im home now, thank dog [Chuckles] nobody knows but it’s sure a good education for sure
    3 points
  31. Psalm 109:8 ~ "Let his days be few and brief; And let others step forward to replace him."
    3 points
  32. HOW DO YOU FIND THIS STUFF???These guys on the call are so funny!! Not quite as good as Abbott and Costello's "Who's On First" but they had me laughin' They talk about how unbiased they are, and in the same breath, they talk about how credible their uncorroborated and therefore incredible info is!!! They speculate about the rate, get everyone excited with so called "Credible" information (credible from someone that they can't / won't name or validate just someone they know in the UK, who has a secret screen!!!) Hey if this GUY is so credible and has such a cool SECRET screen, why didn't they INVITE him onto THAT call??? Don't you know that if ONE guy has a REAL secret screen, OTHERS will have it TOO? That means that MANY people would already be talking about this rate from their secret screen knowledge!! If you can't CORROBORATE the information, it probably is NOT true. This guy on the call CRACKS ME UP He says; "we want to come out here and talk to you as friends. We have no motivation for this" Yea, RIGHT!!! Their motivation is to get their Andy Warhol 15 minutes. Man, you've gotta be wearing pretty HIGH boots to be slogging around in this stuff!! I can't take it... This is totally why I stay away from calls like this! Too much laughter is painful. My ribs hurt too much! Okay,,, Lets play with this just for fun... On the call they SPECULATE 3.88 IQD to 1 USD which is 25.77cents For all you non mathematicians if the rate is what they speculate on this call (25.77 cents IQD:USD) You'll get (without cash in fees) $257,731.96 USD per $1M IQD NOT BAD.. I think everyone would be ECSTATIC with that Okay,,, just so you can see the difference in what the decimal point does... Oh First let me say this... the USD is the PEG so the RATE will ALWAYS be compared against the USD,,, NOT the IQD so it will look like this .00085763 : 1 (that is USD : IQD) (to find the rate just divide 1 USD by the rate .00085763 and you get = 1166 IQD) Which is the CURRENT RATE that is shown as 1:1166 Okay, If the rate were to adjust to .26 IQD the rate would look like this 1 : 0.26000000 Which it won't but if it did, it mathematically translates to $3.84615385 USD per $1 IQD Now that's a GREAT deal... That would mean $3,846,153.85 USD for every $1M IQD I don't want to hurt your feelings by saying this so be prepared... I don't see an initial RV of anything more than 1:1 (maybe a few pennies higher) If Dr. Shabibi was listening to that call, He might easily want to come in at 10cents and let all of those people cash in first. You KNOW they'd do it... They'll believe anything. Then a week or even a month later, he could kick it up to a buck and save his county a TON of dough! Here's what I know for sure... 1. The current rate is 1:1166 2. A change in the rate MUST be backed up by something of equal value, Labor or natural resources. Iraq has serious natural resources to back up a change in the rate, and Iraq NEEDS the positive change in the rate to REBUILD their country. 3. Iraq will revalue their currency to benefit THEM, not US (or U.S.). 4. NO ONE has a secret screen, or magic mirror, or crystal ball, or Ouija board that can tell them what the rate is going to be... NO ONE! 5. The only people I trust on this is Adam and my think tank. You shouldn't even trust me! Hey, I worked for the Government! I've flown over Area 51 (Groom Lake, NV) It does exist by the way! I've seen it with my own eyes. Hey folks,,, Have fun and LYAO listening to this stuff... Stay GROUNDED (did I just say "Stay Grounded"... bad Wingnut,, FLY Be FREE!!) Go RV
    3 points
  33. http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/?p=4138
    3 points
  34. Iraq List received messages reveal a “positive” from al-Maliki to resolve the differences FEBRUARY 4TH, 2012 Baghdad, February 4 (Rn) – The Iraqi List led by former Prime Minister Iyad Allawi on Saturday, announced that it has received positive messages from Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki include earnest resolve the outstanding issues, particularly the application of agreements Arbil, partnership and balance in addition to the guarantees of the formation of the Council of strategic policies. Has escalated the crisis between the coalition and Iraqi rule of law against the backdrop of the judiciary to issue an arrest warrant for Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi for his support of “terrorism”, is regarded as false accusations Hashemi and confessions made by the protected elements of the “fabricated”. And seeks President Jalal asked me to end the political crisis through building a conference or a meeting at the level of national leaders put the blocks in which all the problems and agree on solutions. The leading figure in the list Dhafir al-Ani told the Kurdish news agency (Rn), “The meeting which brought together three of the ministers of Iraq with al-Maliki was at the invitation of the latter to discuss resolving the political crisis,” noting that “the meeting was successful and was discussed outstanding differences between Alaitlavien very seriously and openly and Minister for the positive spirit touched the Maliki became clear through a statement his office, who welcomed the return of Iraqi MPs to the Council. “ Three of the ministers of the Iraqi List, are the Ministers of Education, Science and Technology, and Agriculture met last week with Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and expressed their intention to return to cabinet meetings as close to Maliki. Ani explained that “Iraq has received positive messages from al-Maliki about his desire to resolve outstanding issues, particularly the application of agreements Erbil and file processing partnership and balance”, but he also said, “until there are guarantees and the formation of the Policy Board.” He noted that the “positive messages through informed by President Jalal Talabani.” He reported that the Iraqi leadership in the waiting list in the coming days, “the assurances and statements translate into action.” According to the Iraqi List, it is subjected to marginalization and exclusion and accused al-Maliki exclusivity in decision-making, but decided to return to the days before the meetings of the House of Representatives with the continued boycott cabinet meetings. http://translate.google.com/translate?act=url&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www.aknews.com/ar/aknews/4/287996/
    3 points
  35. The Kuwaiti dinar rate is .27 ....... .27KWD = $1USD also $3.60USD = 1KWD Theres two ways to look at an exchange rate
    3 points
  36. Even .26 is great. I would have enough to pay for my back surgery from hurting it from all the backflips I will be doing because it RV'd. pp
    3 points
  37. Im still looking towards a 1:1 exchange! Keep it simple for everyone!!
    3 points
  38. whatever we get on this investment I believe will bless us Remember, if it's too low, maybe we won't have a narrow window to exchange the dinar and can ride the elevator to whatever floor looks the best!
    3 points
  39. Lets also just focus on if it RV's, we can exchange the currency we are holding onto for electronical cash. Don't worry with whats printed just yet. It still can happen anyday as long as they are getting along.
    3 points
  40. After watching this again, I liked it. Ron Paul silenced Piers (and probably the world) for a minute when he said, 'then let the British kids go over there and die.' Ron Paul loves Americans so much it almost brings a tear to my eye. I hope the people see that. Paul: Everything they're saying about Iran we said about Iraq and they're all lies. And how many men died? 8500 Americans died. 44,000 come back crippled. Morgan: I agree with you about Iraq. I, as a newspaper editor back in Britain, I opposed the war in Iraq vigorously and loudly for two years. Paul: Then you should oppose us going into Iran. Morgan: I think Iran is a different situation. Paul: Why? Morgan: Because I think that they would, if they could, consider attacking Israel. And if you're America you can't let that happen and the Israelis are looking to America for leadership, aren't they? [Emphasis added] Paul: Why shouldn't they depend on the British? Why don't the British take care of them? They use to have...they have a lot of influence over there. Let all the British kids go over there and die. I mean, why is it assumed that we are the policeman of the world? That it is our moral obligation. Besides, we're broke. Morgan: But aren't there times when you have to be the policeman of the world? Paul: No! Morgan: Really? [sounds surprised] Paul: It is not. We're to provide for our national security. We do not have the authority. We do not have the money. And we don't have the moral authority to do this because it leads to trouble.
    3 points
  41. AJAnderson (AJ’s Intel): OOM 2/3/12 FEBRUARY 3RD, 2012 Good Morning, Today the dollar is settling in at around 78.86. In my opinion the “lock down” at the UST is doing some good keeping the USD from slipping down further as certain countries buy up tons of gold and silver. This came from a UST insider in a call to me yesterday. I have not been able to get in contact with my UST person. Gold is at 1751.50, silver 34.05 and crude at 96.92 down a few dollars today. These are the causes of the USD slide downward and I hope they get this turned around in the near future. No CBI acution today as this is Iraq’s Holy day. The IQD is still showing 1166 and 1164, so not RV today. The echange rate on the IQD is .0008552. In the Iraq News: in the coming days in order to solve this problem by setting the exchange rate, as well as the purchase price, the price of the Central Bank will be a new price in order to put the market in a balanced manner. “ see more: http://www.uragency.net/ur/news.php?cat=news&id=7827 We are seeing very positive news comming out of Iraq in the last few days. In my opinion Iraq has a big problem with the smuggling of USD to Iraq and Syria. Right now the USD is the CBIs wealth and if it leaves the country that will poss as a problem with releasing the lower denominations into the market place of Iraq in the comming weeks. In my opinion we are very close to the RV and things look very positive. The RV is in the hands of the CBI and GOI of Iraq. God Bless, AJ
    3 points
  42. People love to attack 'birthers'. Mainly, IMO, it is because they are willing to take a stand and those who like to attack them do not like anyone who takes a stand against the status quo. If Obama had nothing to hide then he would not have made this an issue. No one else initially made this an issue. If you remember back a few years ago, it was Obama who made his birth certificate an issue by not submitting it when it was first asked of him and when he was first required to do so. But, in normal style, the mainstream media gave him a pass for not doing this either. Now as time has passed on the media has demonized anyone who asks about the birth certificate forgetting that Obama was the one making this an issue. There are no records on this man. People need to pull their heads out of their butts and ask why! Why are there no records of him, his past, his parents, his childhood, his relatives. This man does not exist. No one is this invisible unless there is a reason he has had his records sterilized.
    3 points
  43. Now this IS an answer with grace. Good job!! Me, too. I've been a sucker far more often than I care to say. And also for worse things. For example--my first husband. <grin>
    3 points
  44. Please see link, I love it when Obama says he visited 57 states..Maybe he thinks Kenya is one of them!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtRbIz-GHo8&feature=related
    3 points
  45. For the record, and if u look at my history... I'm no pumper. Just relaying what was said. The holy **** was him realizing on his own what was likely about to happen. We ain't all pumping. Take it easy folks!
    3 points
  46. That intel is more accurate than 99% of the intel found in the forum.
    3 points
  47. There are no "lies and propaganda here". The fact of the matter is, institutions affiliated with churches ARE required now by law to pay for birth control. Are churches exempt? Yes but this is a back door attack on churches by forcing their institutions that are supported by donated dollars from the church to take part in a practice that is clearly against the beliefs of said church. In no way is that a lie or is it propaganda. It's truth.
    3 points


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