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This was first posted by Captain Wingnut in VIP. Despite a request that he repost it on the general forums he was too modest to do it, so not to waste a good thing - here it is. Thank you Captain, and to the rest of you...Enjoy. Shabs could really Pull the Trigger at any time. However, He and the other powers to be are wise men and very in tune with the limitations and outcomes of what these actions could, and will do. I believe their primary concern (I would put it at about 98%) is and will be all about what the RV actions will do TO, and FOR Iraq, while their secondary concern (the remaining 2%) will be what the RV actions will do, for and to, the rest of the world. Okay, so my percentages may be slightly off, but in the end I'll bet I'm close. As with a gun that is loaded and cocked, Pulling the trigger, can happen at anytime but pulling the trigger on any whim or at any time is not always the best or SAFEST action. No different than holding a loaded and cocked gun in your house. You probably wouldn't pull the trigger in your house, simply because you could! That would just NOT be a smart thing to do! I mean pull the trigger just because you could. Right? Even though you have it loaded and ready to go you would wait for the Right Time and the Right Place. Iraq knows that the world is watching, (and panting and drooling) for them to pull the trigger, and I'll bet Shabs has his finger on that trigger 99% of the time. But he's got to patiently wait for the right time to present its self. Yes, they know that the rest of the world is holding IQD. That fact came totally by Iraq's design by selling it at auction to the world. This was their way of making enough money to keep the lights on (so to speak). They also knew (and know) that the auctions would not work if EVERYONE buying IQD did not see a Future Value in it. That's the old; What's In It For Me, idiom. The IQD auctions work, not because people around the world want the notes for a colorful substitute for wall paper, they want them because of their perceived future value. Everything we purchase, currency or commodity is done for it's value, current or future. The value in IQD is future OIL. I believe from all that they do and say, that they KNOW, that the rest of the IQD holding world is WAITING on them to make it more valuable than it was at auction. (Auctions have a kind of "Implied" contract for future value and only work when the buying party sees greater immediate or future value in the item over what is paid for it.) Do they LIKE the fact that the rest of the world holding IRQ is waiting on them like vultures circling? NO! It's painfully obvious that they don't want to OWE anyone, any more than they absolutely have to, but they also know that they created this monster by their auctions, and even though they did it to keep the lights on they know they will have to follow through with it and give that future value or WAR will come right back to their doorstep as too many governments, let alone individuals, have put serious money into their infrastructure via IQD purchases at auction. Can they do anything about the IQD held around the world? Yes, but their options are very limited. Can they do anything about the IQD held in Iraq? ABSOLUTELY! Anything they want or need and we're seeing this right now more than ever. I'll cover this more in a minute. Too many posts here and elsewhere are from people who so badly want or need the RV to save them from their financial misery and because of that misery (or greed or desire) they begin to look at the RV through the lenses of their own needs and not what is actually happening or needed from those who will actually do it. This myopic view tends to lead one astray down wishful paths of speculative dreaming. We have a saying; "Boots on Soil" or in other words; BEING THERE! If we first put our boots (in this case our minds) on soil, in Iraq and then take our speculation forward, many times we have a totally different paradigm of the events. It's the difference from looking OUT versus looking IN and knowing the difference between the two. Myopic view points come from people looking IN while trying to convince themselves and others that they are looking OUT!! Please don't take me to say or think I'm an authority or have any special info here that no one else has or can get. I just study what I can and apply it with as much prudence as possible to make my opinions! We know that there are multiple reasons for Iraq NOT to RV (albeit they get fewer day by day) and we myopically (and logically) have multiple reason for them TO RV if not immediately. They have been on this path the entire time and when it is finally done, we will all look back and probably say; "Yup, probably couldn't have happened any other way for the circumstances." Here is a link where they officially announced their intentions to Re-Denominate their currency with a general date of occurrence (within one year). The article was back on Feb 6, 2010 Iraq Planning Currency Redenomiination Note in the article that they had INTENDED for this to only take a year from the time of the press release AND Note that they fully expected to have TWO currencies on the street simultaneously... The timeline didn't work for political and occupational reasons, but the idea was sound. I'll address this a little later. It's been almost two years now and we've seen many positive steps completing this but they didn't make that timeline either as we've also seen set back after set back. I'll also cover these in a minute The question always pops up; Do they have to, or is it a MUST, that they be OUT of Chapter VII before they RV their currency? To my knowledge, the answer is NO. Sovereign countries have the right to do what they want with their currency. Would it BENEFIT them to RV while in Chapter VII? Again I believe NO is the answer. This entire EVENT must be done with minimal negative impact to the country of Iraq. So being out of Chapter VII is probably desirable prior to RV as well as having everyone "In Country" on the same page legally... i.e., Erbil and HCL laws. OKAY, Here's how I see the timeline. 1. HISTORY: Iraq needs income and because their GDP (oil production) is so low after Saddam, Iraq begins to sell IQD to the world as a primary income commodity. Commodities are sold, auctioned and traded for two reasons, intrinsic or future value and we all know as I said before, that the world is not buying dinar for its intrinsic (wall paper) value. 2. Iraq does NOT want to, and should NOT RV their currency while massive triple zero notes are "In Country" as this could easily cause civil war to break out, or inadvertently finance terrorism, not to mention their citizens becoming too rich too fast to even care about working and building up their country, plus about 30 more negative reasons. If Iraq wants to be like Qatar they can certainly get there, but they will need years of stability first, riches for the people second. If they make the people rich first, they will not be stable. If you don't know about Qatar a neighbor to the south of Iraq you should study it. Everything there is FREE to Qataris. EVERYTHING! All based on their crazy rich Natural Gas reserves. So how do they do that? They have to get their people to GIVE UP their triple zero IQD notes willingly and quickly, and preferably BEFORE they pull the trigger on the RV. But HOW? Originally I believed they were going to RV "In Country" and use TWO currencies as noted in the news. They would have put a higher Value on the the new LOWER denominations, and kept the current value on the higher denominations (basically keeping the same value for their monetary system but with two different currencies). They would allow both currencies to co-mingle on the streets and quietly and systematically remove the triple zero notes. The banking system would then just retire the higher notes as they came through in exchange for smaller notes just like all banking systems retire worn out currency. HOWEVER, in-fighting, and excessive political delays in passing laws that should be in place to protect this exchange have eaten up much of the time allotted and now Iraq is coming down to the wire and seriously needing value to their currency to continue. Not to mention that if they took that "In Country" route, they might just have all of the other nations VERY upset with them because it would look as if Iraq was snubbing the world and going back on their "Implied Contract for Value" from the auctions, and Iraq can NOT afford to have the WORLD mad at them right now. TODAY The World and mainly the U.S. wants to be repaid for 10 years of giving and giving. Plus, Iraq is now Sovereign, and every foreign company doing business with Iraq who are there to help them build their infrastructure back and allow them to come out of this on top wants to be paid with something other than Pretty WALL PAPER!! The problem is that it is seriously taking TOO long. Currency auctions without backing up your currency with higher value, (in this case oil) have a tendency to drive inflation UP And backing up or strengthening the currency is... WAIT FOR IT.... The TRIGGER you're looking for to for the RV. Inflation is a fickle thing. Below 10% is typically controllable by the Central Bank and Government but as it approaches 10% it will start to grow exponentially. And that becomes a nightmare that is quickly out of your control. Iraq can not afford out of control inflation because it will destroy them faster than a civil war. Shabs knows this and the world has seen Iraq teetering on this edge for a while now. That's why I believe he has his finger on that TRIGGER 99% of the time because as soon as he can RV their currency it will KILL inflation. THEN IT HAPPENED... Dr. Shabs had an idea. He saw something happening in the world that could get them back on track and in control,,, FAST. The European EVENT. In October-November 2011 the European economic melt down started a phenomenon. The phenomenon was this: European's out of their fear of the Euro failing were trading Euro's for USD on a massive scale so much so that the USD started to climb in value around the world just from demand. Note: There are posts all over during this time frame with people wondering why the change in dinar value. It was only because the US Dollar was getting slightly stronger because of world demand that changed the value against the dinar... CBI had done nothing to change its value. So, Shabs has his number one "mini me" Saleh, "Leak" word that the IQD was weakening against the USD Just a LEAK. WAS IT TRUE? Yes, but only half so. As I said, the IQD was truly weakening against the dollar but because of European events, not because of the Iraqi events. Now if you were "Boots on Soil" in Iraq at that time, you would have noticed something else happening. You would have noticed that there were less and less US DOLLARS in circulation. Combine THAT with Saleh's "Leak" and it might just PANIC you into thinking that your country's monetary value was AGAIN falling off the edge of the world. WHAT'S THE GOAL? The ULTIMATE Goal NECESSARY to make the RV possible with the least injury to Iraq, would be to get the Iraqi people to Voluntarily and Quickly, TURN IN their Triple Zero Notes!!! TRUTH; The real reason for less USD on the streets (in the market place) was because all of the US troops had just left and no more NEW USD was coming into the market place on paydays!! You may sneer and ask; How could they do this and get away with it? They can do this very easily because communication in Iraq is still not up to speed for the common people. They only have an hour or two (at best) of electricity each day and the only other news they have is the GAZETTE (the Governments Newspaper) and word of mouth!! Okay, so the SCARE tactic worked. Trillions of dinar has poured into Iraqi banks for almost 2 months now due to the panic, Iraqi citizens RAN to the banks trading IQD for USD because they were feeling like their own countries money was AGAIN loosing value and the True VALUE was in the US Dollar. So here's where we come to your observation SDB MIKE I believe you're right, that Shabs will wait until there is a MINIMAL amount of dinar in country, BUT I believe that day is closer than you think. The problem that I have posed in our think tank for a LONG time is this: If all you have on the streets of Iraq is triple zero notes and you RV the notes to HIGHER value, HOW DO YOU MAKE CHANGE without lower denominations?? You've got to get the lower denom's onto the street, OR Have an alternate way to make change! Shab's figured out how to do this in THREE EASY STEPS And it's happening RIGHT NOW! 1. Get the people to turn in their IQD for USD ---DONE, in the history books 2. Restore confidence in the IQD __a. Raise the value of the IQD against the USD slightly ---DONE... HAPPENED LAST WEEK 1170 to 1166 __b. Press release that "All is Well" ---HAPPENED TODAY CBI Restores Confidence in IQD 3. Revalue the currency to Match the USD already on the streets, Now they can release the lower IQD denominations (that match the currency already on the streets) and retire the USD as it comes into the banks replacing it with IQD of equal value. This is the Magical Pixie Dust for the Iraqi government and CBI. 1. Iraqi People get rid of their 000 notes VOLUNTARILY and FAST 2. Iraqi People use USD for their TEMPORARY monetary system and now have the ability to make change. 3. CBI can easily control how fast the new currency goes out to the street without stressing the country or economy. HOW DOES THE CBI CONTROL IT? If the CBI wants the exchange of USD for IQD to occur faster, all they have to do is put more confidence in the IQD versus the USD... (i.e., revalue it again just slightly higher 1.16 USD to 1 IQD) That will trigger another massive "fear of loss" exchange event and would ensue and USD would fly off the street for IQD. Another Teaser Note: 1.17 to 1 is the just the opposite of current CBI exchange rate of 1 to 1166 (just move the decimal points to 1.166!!) and THIS amount fits PERFECTLY with their wants and projected budget needs. As I said earlier, the Iraqi Government and CBI knows the rest of the world is watching and they do NOT want to owe anyone any more than they possibly have to, so they can NOT afford to send up a signal flare saying WE'RE ABOUT TO RV... because that would be a BUY, BUY, BUY signal... which would crush them. Right now if they change the auction rate too much they will send up the RV flares and cause a world buying spree, but with USD already on the streets the RV can come with a wave of the wand or Pull of the TRIGGER! While this event was not designed for the rest of the world, it still works GREAT for EVERYONE. I believe that I saw an article (perhaps someone can find it and post it) that stated that they already have LOWER denom's printed and ready to go.... So where are they keeping them? They're probably in secure CBI warehouses.... NOT in the BANKS. If they were to start moving the lower denoms to the banks THAT folks would be a signal worth acting on... But if the Iraqi citizens are using USD and can already MAKE CHANGE for sales in the market place, The CBI can now do the RV without any fanfare or notice and afterward, move their lower denom's to the banks unencumbered. Okay, we're finally seeing this ALL come to fruition. Just a week ago we saw the CBI change their artificial float rate from 1170 to 1166 which was the first step in reassuring the Iraqi people that their IQD is getting stronger. Which by the way, the Iraqi people no longer have in great quantity. This should already be wetting their appetite for their IQD again. (This action is like taking your foot off the gas pedal as you approach the exit coming off the freeway/turnpike) and TODAY Shabibi took action to slow it down even more... CBI seeks to restore confidence in the local currency against the dollar (This is totally akin to applying pressure to the BRAKE to slow the vehicle down as you prepare to make the BIG TURN to a new direction as you get off the speedway.) If I were looking for a SIGN that the CBI was believing that they were seeing the LAST of the Triple Zero notes trickling in from "In Country", THIS WOULD BE IT. With this article, the CBI now wants the Iraqi citizens to Have Faith in their IQD...OVER THE US DOLLAR... AGAIN! The people are now using USD and can make change. Here you go, They can now RV and have TWO currencies on the street at the same time as I showed you above. All the government needs to do now is get the Iraqi people to exchange their USD for IQD And the way they do that is to RV... Then they can swap out the USD for IQD at their own pace, without panicking the world into massive buying of dinar and owing even more. So, the next step in my humble opinion is the RV YEA!!! and simultaneous release of lower the denominations. This of course will come just as soon as they have the final security and laws in place to protect the event. We're seeing all of the positive movement from Iraq to finalize many laws and budgets this week, and it would appear that they have just about dotted all of their 'i's" and crossed all of their "T's" Go RV. Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1kamiThB4 Read more:

Three Cheers for Obama! He destroyed the Clinton Political Machine - Driving a stake thru the Heart of Hillarious's Presidential aspirations--something no Republican was ever able to do. Remember when a Hillarious Presidency scared the daylights out of you! He killed off the Kennedy Dynasty - No more Kennedys trolling Washington looking for booze and women wanting rides home. American women and freedom are safer tonight! He is destroying the Democratic Party before our eyes! Dennis Moore had never lost a race - quit Evan Bayh had never lost a race - quit Byron Dorgan - had never lost a race - quit Harry Reid - bid for re-election doesn't look good These are just a handful of the Democrats whose political careers Obama has destroyed! By the end of 2010 dozens more will be! In December of 2008 the Democrats were on the rise. In the last two election cycles they had picked up 14 senate seats and 52 house seats. The press was touting the death of the Conservative Movement and the Republican Party. In one year Obama put a stop to all of this and will probably give the house, if not the senate back to the Republicans. He has completely exposed liberals and progressives for what they are. Every generation seems to need to relearn the lesson on why they should never actually put liberals in charge. He is bringing home the lesson very well! Liberals tax, borrow and spend - check Liberals won't bring themselves to protect America - check Liberals want to take over the economy - check Liberals think they know what is best for everyone - check Liberals aren't happy till they are running YOUR life - check He has brought more Americans back to conservatism than anyone since Reagan In one year he rejuvenated the Conservative Movement and brought out to the streets millions of Freedom Loving Americans. Name me one other time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in taking back America ! In all honesty one year ago I was more afraid than I had ever been in my life. Not of the economy, but of the direction our country was going. I thought Americans had forgotten what this country was all about. My neighbors, friends, strangers proved to me that my lack of confidence of the greatness and wisdom of the American people was flat out wrong. When the American People wake up, no smooth talking teleprompter reader can fool them! Obama woke up these Great Americans Again I want say Thank you Obama! So, Lets Recap "2009".........what a year! WOW!!! 1. The American people inaugurate a half-Arab president with a total of 142 days experience as a US Senator from the most politically corrupt state (city) in America whose governors have been ousted from office. The President's first official act is to order the close of Gitmo and make sure terrorist’s civil rights are not violated. (Honest mistake?) 2. The U.S. Congress rushes to confirm a black Attorney General, Eric Holder, whose law firm we later find out represents seventeen Gitmo Terrorists. (An honest mistake?) 3. The CIA Boss appointee, Leon Panetta, has absolutely no experience. 4. We got the second most corrupt American woman (Pelosi is #1) as Secretary of State; bought and paid for. (You can put lipstick on a pig, but it still stinks!) 5. We got a Tax Cheat for Treasury Secretary who did not properly file his own taxes for 12 years. (He misspoke!) 6. A Commerce Secretary nominee who withdrew due to corruption charges. (Another honest mistake???) 7. A Tax cheat nominee for Chief Performance Officer who withdrew under charges. (Hmmm... Another screw-up?) 8. A Labor Secretary nominee who withdrew under charges of unethical conduct. (Ok, maybe this person was just plain stupid.) 9. A Secretary HHS nominee (Daschle) who withdrew under charges of cheating on his taxes. (I'm running out of excuses for these idiots!!) 10. Multiple appointments of former lobbyists after an absolute campaign statement that no lobbyists would be appointed. (Dear God, I am getting a headache!) All this occurred just during the first three weeks. . . But who's counting? America is being run by the modern-day Three Stooges; Barry, Nancy and Harry and they are still trying to define stimulus..."it's spending!!!" The congress passes the $800,000,000,000 (that's $800 billion) pork-loaded spending bill where the government gives you a smidgen of your tax dollars ($13 per week), making you feel so good about yourself [stimulated], that you want to run out to Wal-Mart and buy a new Chinese-made HDTV! Only with the Liberals... Pray for our country. Here's the good news though - Obama took Air Force One to Denver to sign the stimulus package, wasting as much as 10,000 gallons of fuel OR 24 JOBS FOR ONE YEAR. Don't you just love hypocrites? Obama went to the International Olympic Committee to have them choose Chicago for a host city, he failed. Obama went to Copenhagen to lecture them on global warming, he failed Obama went to New Jersey to promote the Democratic candidate for governor, he failed, Obama went to Virginia to promote the Democratic candidate for governor, he failed. Obama went to Massachusetts to promote the Democratic candidate for senator, he failed. Speaking of praying, Obama has now been president for a full year and yet he & wife (first lady) Michelle, the Christian family they claim to be, have not attended church since the inauguration. Obama is the 1st president in history who did not attend any Christmas religious observance. He must miss Reverend Wright! And finally, he is the 1st president to remain on vacation after a terrorist attack. In these times 'I'll keep my God, my freedom, my gun and my money. Anyone that supports this insanity can keep "THE CHANGE".

Kapperoni Chat - Post By Kaperoni Dinar Alert Forum 01/26/2012 Kaperoni quick chat 1/25/2012 12 noon CST Kaperoni: Just a quick chat. Kaperoni: I have been out with the flu the past few days, but I have been still reading articles and documents. I wanted to give you an update based on articles I have read. I am not providing links, but they are all in the forums if you question it. Kaperoni: Parliament stated this past week that they would not take up economic laws until after the Budget is passed. Kaperoni: We know from previous articles that one of the economic laws is an “accounting law” that needs to pass before Shabibi can RV the currency. Kaperoni: There was an article about 3 –4 weeks ago that said they expect to pass the budget by mid February. Kaperoni: So we can make a fairly educated assumption that the RV will not occur till after this timeframe. Kaperoni: My view is watch for the budget, then watch for parliament to take up the economic laws. We then may be very close. Keep in mind, the political issues remain an issue and may delay or impact this. Kaperoni: I’ll be back soon when I feel better. Kaperoni: Take care, Kap ...

This RV is IMHO being massively manipulated by the "creatures" that want nothing more than to pad their interest coffers. This is a world wide RV for way more currencies than just the dinar. Can you imagine how many corrupt politians and dictators are throwing road blocks on this road? I feel very confident that the intel that is coming out about an imminent RV is solid. I, in my own humble way have been able to verify a few of the claims. Banks are screaming for this to be done. Banks have loud voices! O has definitely has a loud voice, he and his creatures from Chicago. Their political future is at stake. It is a losing future as far as I can see, but great money can buy alot of great manipulation. They need this great money to continue their manipulation. Our great horned buddy George Soros has got his tenicles wrapped around this big time, and he has got alot of manipulation power.The Federal Reserve is probably the biggest long tailed creature involved in this. They have alot at stake. Their manipulators are historically the most powerful players in games like this. At some point soon, the creatures will come together and pull the trigger. The little people will fight like like brides at a 70% off sale to get their dinar cashed and into their accounts. Most of them will then lose all of their money in less than 5 years. More manipulation. How bout we become observers of this manipulation instead of participants? How bout we calmly and with great wisdom go forth after this RV and INVEST our blessing wisely. Is there a better way to pay these manipulators back for all of this stress than to do what they don't want us to do and actually grow our new found wealth? Corvettes, Lamborgini's, boats, planes? You've got to be kidding. Set yourelf up with income producing investments. Make an actual written business plan with your financial advisor. Stick to it. Review it every year! Adjust it. My sister who got a very large inheritance (I gave my half to her), in just 4 years lost her home to foreclosure, filed for bankruptsy, lost all of her and her husband's retirement and is being bled dry with co-payments from health problems. I feel terrible that I gave her my half of the inheritance, thought I was helping, instead, I probably facilitated her downfall.. No good deed goes unpunished. Keep in mind that you are about to face a HUGE change in your life. Will it really matter if it goes for a few weeks more? Are you ready? Maybe you just need this time to really think about what is in store for you. Lots of positive and also ALOT of negative. What are your negatives? Have you even thought about them? I know you are alll dreaming about the positives. But you will be shocked at how quickly the negatives will come into play. I'm not trying to be a wet blanket, I'm trying to advise you how you can use this period of waiting as a productive time. Make a list of things that will be immedately effected by this windfall both positive and negative. Marriages will fail, families will stop speaking to each other, hearts will be broken. Are you ready for all of this? How do you know if your advisors are trust worthy? How are you planning on choosing your advisors? Have you all thought of this? Ask questions, lots of them. If you don't know what to ask, then find someone who does and ask them to help you, pay them to help you. This time of waiting is for a reason.

What about a baby's right to choose? Liberals chastise conservative's pro-capital punishment views, even though that person has had a chance to be "viable", and failed - yet, they are happy to encourage killing a baby even before it has had an opportunity to do anything. IMO, the women's choice was to engage in an act that may or may not have produced another human. THAT is the choice, and nobody has taken it from them. Abortion is contraception for the selfish.

Just found the Judges response. Heh, that guy is a hero. finally, someone is standing up to the corruption. 214 State Capitol ● Atlanta, Georgia ● 30334 ● (404) 656-2881 ● (404) 656-0513 Fax www.sos.state.ga.us The Office of Secretary of State January 25, 2012 VIA REGULAR MAIL & EMAIL Michael Jablonski260 Brighton Road, NEAtlanta, Georgia 30309michael.jablonski@comcast.com RE: Georgia Presidential Preference Primary Hearings Dear Mr. Jablonski:I received your letter expressing your concerns with the manner in which the Office of StateAdministrative Hearings ("OSAH") has handled the candidate challenges involving your client andadvising me that you and your client will "suspend" participation in the administrative proceeding. WhileI regret that you do not feel that the proceedings are appropriate, my referral of this matter to anadministrative law judge at OSAH was in keeping with Georgia law, and specifically O.C.G.A. § 21-2-5.As you are aware, OSAH Rule 616-1-2-.17 cited in your letter only applies to parties to a hearing. As thereferring agency, the Secretary of State's Office is not a party to the candidate challenge hearingsscheduled for tomorrow. To the extent a request to withdraw the case referral is procedurally available, Ido not believe such a request would be judicious given the hearing is set for tomorrow morning.In following the procedures set forth in the Georgia Election Code, I expect the administrative law judgeto report his findings to me after his full consideration of the evidence and law. Upon receipt of thereport, I will fully and fairly review the entire record and initial decision of the administrative law judge.Anything you and your client place in the record in response to the challenge will be beneficial to myreview of the initial decision; however, if you and your client choose to suspend your participation in theOSAH proceedings, please understand that you do so at your own peril.I certainly appreciate you contacting me about your concerns, and thank you for your attention to thismatter.Sincerely,Brian P. Kempcc: Hon. Michael Malihi (c/o Kim Beal - kbeal@osah.ga.gov)Van Irion, Esq. (van@libertylegalfoundation.org)Orly Taitz, Esq. (orly.taitz@gmail.com

WASHINGTON | Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:15pm EST WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has warned Iraq not to "blow this opportunity" to become a prosperous, unified nation, U.S. Secretary of State Hillarious Clinton said on Thursday, saying it must start to act like a democracy and embrace compromise. Iraq has suffered its worst political crisis in a year with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's move to arrest Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi last month, which has raised fears of renewed sectarian violence following the U.S. troop withdrawal. Speaking in a question-and-answer session with State Department employees, Clinton said U.S. ambassador to Iraq James Jeffrey has taken the lead in urging Iraqi politicians including Maliki, a Shi'ite, to settle their differences peacefully. "He is constantly ... reaching out, meeting with, cajoling, pushing the players, starting with Prime Minister Maliki, not to blow this opportunity," she said. "This is an opportunity to have a unified Iraq and the only way to do that is by compromising." Hashemi, a Sunni, was accused of running death squads. He has denied the charges and sought refuge in Iraq's semi-autonomous Kurdish region, where he is unlikely to be arrested. The current political crisis threatens to break up the country's fragile coalition government, raising fears it could slip back into the sectarian carnage that broke out following the 2003 U.S. invasion. Clinton said despite the downfall of Saddam Hussein, whose Sunni-dominated regime oppressed Iraq's Shi'ite majority, Iraqis' "minds are not yet fully open to the potential for what this new opportunity can mean to them." She said the United States would do whatever it could to help "but at the end of the day, Iraq is now a democracy but they need to act like one and that requires compromise." http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/26/us-iraq-usa-idUSTRE80P1MG20120126

Ezekiel 35, the Arab-Israeli War Before Ezekiel 38 By Bill Salus ProphecyDepot.com Many end times experts believe the “Gog of Magog” invasion described in Ezekiel 38 and 39 is nearing the time of its prophetic fulfillment. Russia’s seemingly inseparable alliance with Iran, Turkey’s increased disdain toward Israel, and Libya’s uncertain future all suggest that the stage is rapidly setting for the fulfillment of the Magog invasion of Israel. All of these countries along with several more appear to be part of the Russian coalition that mounts this massive attack. Putting the icing on the cake is the fact that Iran’s apocalyptic leadership wants to wipe Israel off the map and is on the verge of producing nuclear weapons. Certainly all the above, coupled with a host of other unmentioned indicators provides just cause to consider that the Ezekiel 38 prophecy could soon occur. But what about the war prophesied in Ezekiel 35? Is it conceivable that the war of Ezekiel 38 could precede the last days Arab–Israeli conflict predicted three chapters earlier? Below are several excerpts about this Arab–Israeli war that have been borrowed from my recently released book called Revelation Road, Hope Beyond the Horizon. An exhaustive biblical commentary of Ezekiel 35 is provided in the section entitled “The Ezekiel 35–Psalm 83 Connection.” Ezekiel 34:13, 36:24, 37:12, 38:8, and 39:27-28 all talk about the Jews being re-gathered out from the nations of the world back into the Holy Land of Israel. By the time one reads through Ezekiel 34-39 they are left with the indelible impression that in the last days, the Jews will be re-gathered into Israel. There is absolutely no way to draw any other conclusion! Therefore, it stands to reason contextually that because Ezekiel 35 is huddled in the midst of the above chapters, it must have some association with the Jews, Israel, and the end times. Pivotally Ezekiel 35:5, which will be displayed below, informs that the Arabs possess an ancient hatred of the Jews that prompts Arabs to shed Jewish blood in the end times. Presuming mankind has been plunged into this final perilous period, a comprehensive study of Ezekiel 35 should underscore the present Arab-Israeli predicament in the Middle East. Below is a verse by verse study of Ezekiel 35. Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying, “Son of man, set your face against Mount Seir and prophesy against it, and say to it, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Behold, O Mount Seir, I am against you; I will stretch out My hand against you, And make you most desolate; I shall lay your cities waste, And you shall be desolate. Then you shall know that I am the LORD (Ezekiel 35:1-4, NKJV; emphasis added). Ezekiel begins with the word “moreover,” which implies a continuation from the previous chapter 34. Ezekiel 34, concluded with an end-times’ depiction of the Jews being re-gathered into Israel, restored as God’s people, and being blessed. From other Scriptures, we recognize that Israel becomes blessed during the messianic kingdom, but before this is re-gathered in a condition of unbelief in preparation for judgment. Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum aptly points this out in his excellent book called The Footsteps of the Messiah. He says “The Bible speaks of two distinct worldwide regatherings (of the Jews). First, there is to be a worldwide regathering in unbelief in preparation for judgment; specifically the judgment of the Tribulation. That is to be followed by a second worldwide regathering in faith in preparation for blessing, specifically, the blessing of the Messianic Kingdom.” [1] Presuming his assessment is correct we are to recognize that the re-gathering of Jews into Israel occurs over time, and involves a two-step process. The inference from Ezekiel 35:1-4 is that at some point during the two-step restoration process of the nation Israel, Mount Seir does something to aggravate the Lord. Four times the prophet uses the word against, evidencing the Lord is provoked to anger to act against Mount Seir. Two times he uses the word desolate. Far beyond a divine disciplinary hand-slap, Mount Seir will experience desolation. The severity of punishment points out the seriousness of Mount Seir’s crime. Mount Seir finds a definite historical connection with Esau and his Edomite descendants. However, as this article will later point out, it also represents more Arabs than just the Edomites. Who exactly is the Mount Seir of Ezekiel 35? What are they guilty of? Lastly, at what point in the two-step regathering process does Mount Seir experience desolation? Because you have had an ancient hatred, and have shed the blood of the children of Israel by the power of the sword at the time of their calamity, when their iniquity came to an end (Ezekiel 35:5, NKJV). Fortunately, we don’t have to look farther than verse five to find out what Mount Seir is guilty of. Because of their historical hatred of the Jews, the Arabs spitefully shed Jewish blood. The spilt blood angers the Lord; not just any blood, but Jewish blood. Furthermore, Ezekiel declares the power of the sword is used to shed this blood. This means the Arabs’ war against Israel. This passage also identifies the timing of the Arab war. It occurs during the calamitous end times. Regarding the calamitous end times, the American Standard Version (ASV) translates Ezekiel 35:5 more succinctly as an end times event. The ASV reads as follows: “Because thou hast had a perpetual enmity, and hast given over the children of Israel to the power of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time of the iniquity of the end;” Therefore, as I live,” says the Lord GOD, “I will prepare you for blood, and blood shall pursue you; [Arabs] since you have not hated [shedding Jewish] blood, therefore blood shall pursue you” (Ezekiel 35:6, NKJV). Arab blood for Jewish blood is the remedial requirement determined by the Lord. This is the curse-for-curse-in-kind specification in Genesis 12:3. The Arabs severely curse Israel, and in turn will be similarly severely cursed. The Lord preferred the Arabs would have abandoned their ancient hatred of the Jews. The inhumane treatment of the Jews by the Nazis during the Holocaust should have prompted empathy from the Arabs, but verse six informs they still hated the Jewish bloodline. Thus I will make Mount Seir most desolate, and cut off from it the one who leaves and the one who returns. And I will fill its mountains with the slain; on your hills and in your valleys and in all your ravines those who are slain by the sword shall fall. I will make you perpetually desolate, and your cities shall be uninhabited; then you shall know that I am the LORD (Ezekiel 35:7-9, NKJV; emphasis added). Again Ezekiel repeats the sentiment of verse three: Mount Seir will be most desolate. The mountains, hills, valleys, and ravines will be filled with the slain and the cities will be abandoned. In the aftermath, the Arabs will realize that the Lord had His hand in the massive slayings. Ezekiel 35:3 declares the outstretched hand of the Lord causes the desolation, but here in verse eight we discover the Lord’s weapon of choice is the sword. Ezekiel 25:14 may hold an important clue as to how the sword in the Lord’s outstretched hand represents the IDF executing judgment upon Edom: “I will lay My vengeance on Edom by the hand of My people Israel [iDF] that they may do in Edom [Mount Seir] according to My anger and according to My fury; and they shall know My vengeance,” says the Lord GOD (Ezekiel 25:14, NKJV). This passage finds definite association with a military judgment upon the Edomites, who hailed from ancient Mount Seir. Esau’s Edomite descendants will be forced to recognize the Lord’s hand of judgment when the IDF takes vengeance against them. It is important to note that the Edomites are listed first within the Psalm 83 Arab confederacy, as the “tents of Edom.” In my book called Isralestine, in the chapter called "Whodomites, Who are the Edomites Today," I carefully connect the Palestinian refugees, through several historical waves of migration, with the tents of Edom. Today the Edomites have ethnic representation within the Palestinians. It is additionally important to note that the massive slaying of Edomites described in Ezekiel 35:7-9 by the IDF has not occurred yet. After Ezekiel wrote, many Edomites were slaughtered by the Seleucid king Antigonus around 312 BC. However, this episode did not involve the IDF at the time, disqualifying it as a fulfillment of Ezekiel 25:14. Subsequently, around 126 BC, the Jewish high priest John Hyrcanus fought and killed many Edomites. But, his IDF victory did not fill the mountains, hills, valleys, and ravines with the slain and cause the abandonment of the cities. To the contrary, Hyrcanus allowed the surviving Edomites, who were called Idumeans at the time, to remain and repopulate within their cities as long as they converted to Israel’s religion of Judaism. In addition, neither of the Antigonus or Hyrcanus victories occurred in the end time’s fulfillment of Ezekiel 35:5. “‘Because you have said, “These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess them,” although the LORD was there, therefore, as I live,’ says the Lord GOD, ‘I will do according to your anger and according to the envy which you showed in your hatred against them; and I will make Myself known among them when I judge you. Then you shall know that I am the LORD. I have heard all your blasphemies which you have spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, “They are desolate; they are given to us to consume.” Thus with your mouth you have boasted against Me and multiplied your words against Me; I have heard them’” (Ezekiel 35:10-13, NKJV). Ezekiel uses the word because three times in this chapter, and verse ten begins with the second usage. The first because dealt with the ancient hatred in verse five and the second now addresses the Arab motive. The Arabs seek to possess two nations and two countries. Because the Arabs harbor an ancient hatred, they shed Jewish blood. The reason they shed this blood is to destroy the Israelis and possess Israel. Ezekiel 35:10 says, "These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess them." At the time Ezekiel wrote, approximately 2,600 years ago, Israel was a divided country. There was the northern kingdom, commonly referred to as Israel or Samaria, and a southern kingdom, called Judah. Prior to Ezekiel’s time, in 722 BC, the northern kingdom was conquered by the Assyrians, and subsequently in 586 BC, the Babylonians conquered Judah. The Hebrew word for nations is goy, and for countries is erets. Goy identifies Gentiles, nations, or peoples; whereas erets deals more specifically with the earth and its lands, territories, or regions. Ezekiel is probably declaring the Arabs seek sovereignty over the Jewish people and their previously divided lands. Being omniscient and omnipresent, the Lord possesses the unique “fly on the wall” advantage of sitting in on all confidential Arab meetings, past, present, and future. Ezekiel summarizes the Anti-Semitic gist of these meetings for us by revealing the Arabs declare blasphemies against the mountains of Israel. Ezekiel notates the Arabs are angry, envious, hateful, and boastful people in their hatred of the Jews and their God Jehovah. They believe Israel’s desolation evidences Israel’s God is weak, and the land (mountains) of Israel belongs to the Arabs. Below are some specific Arab quotes taken from the Bible, regarded with destroying the Jews and possessing the land of Israel; “Because you have said, ‘These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess them’” (Ezekiel 35:10). “They [mountains of Israel] are desolate; they are given to us to consume” (Ezekiel 35:12). “Aha! The ancient heights have become our possession!” (Ezekiel 36:2). “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation, that the name of Israel may be remembered no more” (Psalm 83:4). “Let us take for ourselves the pastures of God for a possession” (Psalm 83:12). Jordan, identified by the Psalm 83 members of Moab and Ammon, has also made troubling comments along these lines. Zephaniah 2:8 informs us of the following; I [the Lord] have heard the reproach of Moab, and the insults of the people of Ammon, with which they have reproached My people, and made arrogant threats against their borders. This disposition of Arab hatred and desire to dispossess Israel of their land was prophesied in Psalm 83. The Psalm warns that the Arabs will confederate, form a crafty plan, and attack Israel. Their mandate is to destroy the Jews and erase the name of Israel forever. Psalm 83:12 informs us the goal of the confederacy is possession of the land of Israel. They don’t want a two-state solution, wherein Jews and Arabs co-exist side-by-side in peace; rather, they want one more Arab State of Palestine. Since Ezekiel 35:5 suggests the Arab war occurs in the calamitous end times, it appears that it could occur in the near future. “Thus says the Lord GOD: ‘The whole earth will rejoice when I make you desolate. As you rejoiced because the inheritance of the house of Israel was desolate, so I will do to you; you shall be desolate, O Mount Seir, as well as all of Edom—all of it! Then they shall know that I am the LORD’” (Ezekiel 35:14-15, NKJV). These verses, like Ezekiel 35:6 above, come out of the Genesis 12:3 foreign policy. The Arabs rejoiced when the Jews dwelt outside of their homeland in the Diaspora and Israel lay desolate. In turn, mankind will rejoice at the conclusion of the Arab–Israeli conflict. Who is Ezekiel 35 Identifying as Mount Seir? Ezekiel 35:15 says “O Mount Seir, as well as all of Edom,” and then repeats, “all of it,” alluding to the entirety of Edom. This implies that Mount Seir represents more than Edom; something in addition to Edom. Ezekiel 36:1-5 identifies Mount Seir as the surrounding nations encircling Israel including “all Edom.” ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Because the enemy [Mount Seir] has said of you, ‘Aha! The ancient heights have become our possession,’”’ “therefore prophesy, and say, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Because they made you desolate and swallowed you up on every side, so that you became the possession of the rest of the nations, and you are taken up by the lips of talkers and slandered by the people”—‘therefore, O mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD! Thus says the Lord GOD to the mountains, the hills, the rivers, the valleys, the desolate wastes, and the cities that have been forsaken, which became plunder and mockery to the rest of the nations all around—‘therefore thus says the Lord GOD: “Surely I have spoken in My burning jealousy against the rest of the nations and against all Edom, who gave My land to themselves as a possession, with wholehearted joy and spiteful minds, in order to plunder its open country”’ (Ezekiel 36:2-5; NKJV emphasis added). Ezekiel specifies, the rest of the nations all around with all Edom, are the slanderous people that seek to make Israel desolate and possess it. The people all around Israel comprise the “inner circle” of Arab states and terrorist populations listed in Psalm 83:6-8. The “inner circle” is a phrase coined in Isralestine to identify the Psalm 83 nations in contrast to the “outer ring,” to identify the Ezekiel 38:1-5 Gog of Magog invaders. The territories located inside the pentagon of the Psalm 83 image represents the rest of the [Mount Seir] nations all around with all Edom. Mount Seir seems to be the representative term for the Arab confederacy of Psalm 83. Although there was a literal Mount Seir that was home to the Edomites, the use of mount, or mountains, in Scripture can also identify rulers, governments, or hierarchies. [2] Conclusion It appears as though Ezekiel 35 finds direct correlation with the war prophesied in Psalm 83. If so, Ezekiel 35 identifies the Arab countries that surround Israel today. They do not appear to be the same countries identified in the coalition described in Ezekiel 38. Therefore, Ezekiel seems to be describing two distinctly different end times wars. The fact that Ezekiel’s chapters 34-39 appear to read chronologically, suggests that the Arab war of Ezekiel 35 precedes the Gog of Magog invasion of Ezekiel 38 and 39. http://www.bibleprophecyblog.com/

We await your taking the requested action, and as we do so, we will, of course, suspend further participation in these proceedings, including the hearing scheduled for January 26. If the Judge has any balls he will say "bite me" and have the hearing. But every Judge in the past that has tried this, has retired before the hearing and the hearing was dropped. Big money will always win, just buy yourself out of trouble. Dont you wish we could write a letter to the judge and tell him/her to "forget it" I know the Barry lovers here will (-) me, that is ok, I can live with that.

So, I am a very new member of the group, and this is my first post. Since the first part of Janaury, I have sat very quietly as I observed, read, and evaluated all of the postings from what appear to be a truly good group of members. I am so totally out of my element its not even funny. Having said that, I am in the banking industry, and work for a very well known large bank. I have a deep background in analyzing information, and restructuring defaulted mortgages according to our Investors SPA (Servicing Pool Agreements). I represent the underdogs, those on the verge of losing their homes, some hours away from a Foreclosure Sale. I negotiate, or mitigate Investors losses while analyzing borrowers current financial data. I say that to say this, I have a mere pettance invested in this, enough that when the dinar revalues I am able to bring my own mortgage current, as my family has also been hit hard by the economy, and my self employed husband, who is a humble house painter, hasnt had any work since last year, when I was forced to leave college in the middle of a semester to go back to the only thing I knew how to do (underwrite mortgages) Do I wake up every morning a little jacked up that this thing hasnt happened, well yes I do, do I kick my husband when he is already down, and say hurtful things to him because he cant find any type of job worthy of the only trade he has ever known? NO, because my anger would be displaced, and I couldnt take back my comments. What I am trying to say here, is life is a gamble. I am a fifty one year old wife, mother, grandmother, college student and mortgage underwriter who wants the same exact thing I believe all of you guys want. The quicker the better, lets just all remember that regardless of the information, and how accurate or over embelleshed it may be until the rate posts you have two choices. You can chose not to check in and read what is being posted only to say something in reply that you can look back on years from now and think about what a jerk you appeared to be while you invoked your 5th ammendment rights to free speech, OR you can simply remind yourself that we are all human, and in the heat of the moment may say things normally we wouldnt. Sometimes I'm sorry just isnt an option especially when it's left for all the site to see what a butt head you appeared to be in print. WOOSAH my new friends.

Gee sorry guys... i did not mean to hurt anyone's feelings here at DV. Just been a rough few years of listen to Okie stuff and It really is just...welll darn right upsetting to have someon, I mean golly gee to give anyone give one once of credibility to Okie and or anyone associated with him. We have people in here with serious financial issues listening to he and his followers and dag gonnit I just can't stand to see somneone make just down right dangerous commenst like what was posted regarding credibility. My sincerest apologies and if you guys would be so kind as to not - for my momentary slip in judgement I would really appreciate it. From this point on nothing but postive comments I promise, cross my heart and hope to RV..... As a matter of fact I changing from to With warmest regards

Now I'm as big of an OKIE basher as anyone, but as an AA member, and a son of an 89 year old mom with alz, and having 61 3/4 years behind me, I am afraid I have to stand up for Okie and Perry and myself. I had a near photographic memory when I was a kid. We performed a neighborhood play when I was 8. My brother wrote the script (about 10 - 12 pages), I read it twice, and not only did I remember my leading role part, I remembered everyone else's too. This is not meant to toot my horn, merely to show how good my memory was. You know what they say? The memory is the second thing to go! Nowdays I can't remember where I put my keys 45 seconds ago, forget not only names of people I just met, but also name of people I've known for years. So you young whippersnappers make fun of all of us who suffer from "senior moment" I just say.........Now what was I talking about?

I usually post in VIP but I'll start this one here for ALL. People ask why I believe the rate change from 1166 to 1170 is such a BIG DEAL? Iraq: IQD Rate Change from 1170 to 1166 MY OPINION: For the first time in over THREE years the IQD's artificial programmed rate changed. It was not a change because the dollar or any other currency in the world got stronger or weaker over the IQD. It was not a change caused by greater or less oil production in Iraq or elsewhere. It was not a change because of terrorism or war. As simply as I can put it... Iraq just showed the BUSINESS WORLD (and perhaps more importantly, The Iraqi People) that THEY are in control of their currency and its value. It would appear that just a few weeks ago (somewhere in the first part of January 2012) Iraq passed the 3 year sequester from the IMF and for that 3 years kept hyperinflation away AND did that while NOT changing the value of their currency ONE IOTA for those 3 years. That is a feat that very few people in this world are smart enough to do but Iraq is blessed to have one of the smartest financial WIZARDS in the world... Dr. Sinan Al-Shabibi at the helm. Now a Sovereign country and out of their 3rd year of balancing war, occupation, GDP, treaties, sanctions, and all of their affairs while most of their money was taken away and put into trust accounts for reparations from Saddam's handiwork, they come out and demonstrate that THEY ARE IN CONTROL. This small and almost INSIGNIFICANT change is a HUGE message to the WORLD and the Iraqi people... WE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE VALUE OF OUR CURRENCY. If there were ever any doubts, from anyone in-country or abroad this small movement has dispelled them ALL. They don't have to be out of Chapter 7 to revalue their currency although they may WANT to be free of C7 for political, security and financial stability reasons. They don't have to have HCL, Erbil, a totally seated government or anything else in place to change their currency's value, although I believe they probably should have them in place for political, security and financial stability as well. To me, Dr. Sinan Al-Shabibi just announced to the world that HE (they) are in charge and can pull the trigger ANYTIME they want. Are they going to pull the trigger because you or I want or desperately need them to? Not on your life, or mine. They will do it when it benefits THEM the most. That leaves us here, thinking like we're there, and watching everything that they do for those subtle little hints. Could they blow it and melt down politically and ruin the whole thing for them (and us)? Sorry to say this but; YES, that could happen. The one thing to keep in mind when you begin to DOUBT if this will EVER happen... (yes I find myself riding that roller-coaster occasionally too) is that THEY NEED THIS more than most people can even imagine. Revaluing their currency is something THEY need and when (not if) it happens, many people all over the world will be blessed. I just hope and pray that everyone who receives that blessing is prepared to work it... (parable of the Talents) versus squander it. If you aren't a member of VIP, and you are watching this unfold before your eyes,,, You'd better find a way... hook or crook to get your VIP membership NOW! The BENEFITS of being in VIP (if you have any Dinar or plan to buy some) definitely out weigh the cost. You'll learn many things in VIP that will make you a smarter winner. Adam had some PHENOMENAL specials running for membership... perhaps Adam or any mods, if you're watching, you can add the link for VIP special rates... if they're still available. http://iqd.me/l/order Use coupon code 20for2012 to get a 20% discount. Read more: http://dinarvets.com...1#ixzz1kcwoaqqM My comments from VIP on RV Triggers See you all in the VIP section and on the best beaches...

Could it be that the bank collects fees when opening up accounts? just saying....they don't really care if you're going to use the account or not. They will make money on set-up fees, minimum balance fees, maintenance fees, ect.... So it doesn't mean the RV is guarranteed or close to happening......my banker will let me open up any kind of account I wish as long as I pay their fees.

I think the 3rd meeting was actually one of his AA meetings that he forgot about when you consider the stuff he says.

26 Jan 2012 Kuwait gets $1bn in Iraqi reparation: UN Text size GENEVA, Jan 26, 2012 (AFP) - The United Nations released $1.02 billion (774 million euros) in Iraqi compensation to Kuwait on Thursday in the latest payment of a war reparation scheme that began in 1994. The payment brings the total compensation paid over Iraq's invasion and occupation of Kuwait to $35.4 billion. A further $17 billion is due. The UN Compensation Commission was created in 1991 as a subsidiary organ of the UN Security Council. Its mandate is to process claims and pay compensation for losses and damage suffered as a result of the invasion of Kuwait that year by Saddam Hussein's regime. Iraq is required to put five percent of its oil and gas revenues into the reparations fund. http://ae.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidANA20120126T113048ZFVI53/Kuwait_gets_1bn_in_Iraqi_reparation__UN

dont like the guy either, but can do without the racial comments

Obummers attorneys showed. I couldn't hear what was said, but they left. It looks like the judge did not allow a continuation, and the obummer crowd walked out. So now the evidence is being presented against barry and there is no one there to dispute it. The stream servers are packed, but I found one that has enough bandwidth to hear the audio portion. Live Stream This could be HUGE folks. They are making history in Georgia right now. Obama is out of passes, and elitist arrogance wont get him anywhere. Prayers are being answered, the truth is coming out. What next I wonder? either Binden will take POTUS and pardon Obama, in which case there will never be prosecution for the treason, or, everyone associated with obama will be deemed no eligable because they got there through the illegal obama election. No matter what, it will surely by appealed. Doesn't that MAKE YOU MAD? instead of just proving he is telling the truth, obama would rather try to use pathetic legal procedure to never have to prove anything. Right now they have a document expert testifying about the fake bc.

Dinarlarry is a newbie, all newbies bring in post that may be something we already know or heard of. But to cut them down about their spelling is not fair. Newbie brought us a story. Did we focus on the story... or did most of us focused on the spelling. I for one understood the point that was coming across regarding this post. I for one will by pass the mistakes and absorb the message. I for one struggle with spelling, sometimes my brain is working faster than my fingers on the key board. The point is we are all trying to deliver to the site and it may be with words of wisdom, articulate words, simple forms of words and yes misspelled words. The DV family is here to keep each other informed, educated and positive. Please don't be to harsh with the Newbies. As far as McCain, his words are sometimes misguided words. I hesitate to put to much faith in him, along with a lot of the other politicians. Sorry if I've misspelled words or use in the wrong tense.

I am from Oklahoma City. I now live in Norman (25 miles south of OKC). Watching the evening news last night I almost threw up. Yes it is true he did this. Here in Oklahoma it seems they will let anyone in the legislature. You would not believe the things that come from our capital. There is a senator or rep ( I don't remember ) named Sally Kern. She told the state a load of homophopia stuff a few times that actually got national attention. She was also caught carrying a firearm in the capital once. As much as I love my state, I also am very embarrassed by it too. Watching the Thunder play last night I was so happy and proud of our state, then this guy Shorty comes on the news speaking about this bill he has brought forth. Oh my goodness. I can just shake my head an tell you people we are not all like that. lol

I would have to disagree. McCain is most definately a close second but that dipsh!t in the Oval Office has him beat hands down for the most ignorant sob on the planet...jmo

We've said it before and it was right THEN and continues to say it right NOW: Keep watching the Sunday through Thursday Currency Auctions. So long as the "OFFICIAL CBI BANK SITE" continues to show almost 2-dozen banks DUMPING their toilet-paper dinars at this toilet-paper rate, there IS NO RV, and will be NO RV THAT DAY! You can SAVE both the agony of your hearing more of their "make-it-up-as-they-go" BULLS*IT and wasting more of your valuable time even READING okie or jonnywg or Frank or anything whatsoever from PTR! Adam has done a pretty good job of NOT vomiting-out pure GARBAGE. Pay attention to him and WATCH the OFFICIAL Iraqi Central Bank Website! You'll avoid a LOT of unnecessary and disappointing headaches from the likes of okie and friends! If BANKS dump their toilet paper dinars for toilet paper pay. . .WHAT makes anyone even BELIEVE that an RV of THOUSANDS of times it's present value would also happen on that SAME DAY??? Do you think these DOZENS of participating banks are totally CLUELESS? There is almost NO commonality between what happened in Kuwait and what IS happening in Iraq!

There are those who look at this speculation like a glass half empty, and there are those who look at the glass half full, I choose to believe that there is water in the glass. Fox news is main steam media - GARBAGE like rag magazines. You have to look beyond the main stream, because if this was main stream I wouldn't have taken the risk. There is plenty of good research that supports a positive outcome. Real documentation, not mainstream news. So dont let that kind of "news" influence your confidence, especially now during times of elections. The deadline for the troops to leave Iraq was agreed upon long ago. They have the support of the UN.

Thanks 20MillionDinar for one of the best posts I've read on DV. I've been giving what you said a lot of thought. Yes, there is a downside to all this. People always say that you find out who your friends are when times are tough. While that may be true, you really find out who your friends are when things are really good, or you have something that others want. My Mom used to always say that you don't wear your big jewelry to meet a friend for coffee when that friend has fallen on hard times. We just have to remember that our country, like the rest of the planet, has fallen on hard times. Most people in the world don't even have access to toilets or running water. And here we're in the middle of high unemployment, a foreclosure crisis, and more people living in poverty. So, am I going to get nice things? Sure. Travel to nice places? You bet. But vulgar displays of wealth have never been my thing, nor am I going to put any nice things I get before God. The most important thing for me is making sure that I don't squander this and leave something for the next generation. We're about to get a windfall. So how do we make it grow? Also, those of us that are helpful (like you I gave my brother my inheritance and it was gone in 12 seconds), remember that you cannot help everyone, nor should you enable anyone who you know is irresponsible. I already have my list together of who is receiving help. It's a short list. I know what organizations I will support. All things we need to think about. And yes, I am also researching post RV investments. I am coming out of a lean season and making sure I am never in this position again. This has left a really bitter taste in my mouth. I know money isn't everything but lack of it sucks. I don't want to go through this again. I am going to remember it forever, sort of like how our grandparents that lived through the depression don't waste resources. I get it now. Anyway, sorry for rambling. Thanks again for your post.

I just read a very informative explanation of what another Dinar Vet believes ...it's a long read, but stick with it...it has made me feel a lot better about all of this ( hope it's okay to copy and paste). Very excellent read; Below is Written by captain wingnut SDB Mike, Here's my Opinion. It will be long however, in the form of Timelines, History and of course my Educated Opinion on them all. First, I think you're looking at the right stuff and totally On Base,,, And if they (Iraq) continue to make headway like they're doing it just may be SOONER than you guess... As far as my research, knowledge, intel, timelines, conclusions and intuition goes I believe the "Gun" is already loaded and cocked, and with that I also believe that Shabs could really Pull the Trigger at any time. However, He and the other powers to be are wise men and very in tune with the limitations and outcomes of what these actions could, and will do. I believe their primary concern (I would put it at about 98%) is and will be all about what the RV actions will do TO, and FOR Iraq, while their secondary concern (the remaining 2%) will be what the RV actions will do, for and to, the rest of the world. Okay, so my percentages may be slightly off, but in the end I'll bet I'm close. As with a gun that is loaded and cocked, Pulling the trigger, can happen at anytime but pulling the trigger on any whim or at any time is not always the best or SAFEST action. No different than holding a loaded and cocked gun in your house. You probably wouldn't pull the trigger in your house, simply because you could! That would just NOT be a smart thing to do! I mean pull the trigger just because you could. Right? Even though you have it loaded and ready to go you would wait for the Right Time and the Right Place. Iraq knows that the world is watching, (and panting and drooling) for them to pull the trigger, and I'll bet Shabs has his finger on that trigger 99% of the time. But he's got to patiently wait for the right time to present its self. Yes, they know that the rest of the world is holding IQD. That fact came totally by Iraq's design by selling it at auction to the world. This was their way of making enough money to keep the lights on (so to speak). They also knew (and know) that the auctions would not work if EVERYONE buying IQD did not see a Future Value in it. That's the old; What's In It For Me, idiom. The IQD auctions work, not because people around the world want the notes for a colorful substitute for wall paper, they want them because of their perceived future value. Everything we purchase, currency or commodity is done for it's value, current or future. The value in IQD is future OIL. I believe from all that they do and say, that they KNOW, that the rest of the IQD holding world is WAITING on them to make it more valuable than it was at auction. (Auctions have a kind of "Implied" contract for future value and only work when the buying party sees greater immediate or future value in the item over what is paid for it.) Do they LIKE the fact that the rest of the world holding IRQ is waiting on them like vultures circling? NO! It's painfully obvious that they don't want to OWE anyone, any more than they absolutely have to, but they also know that they created this monster by their auctions, and even though they did it to keep the lights on they know they will have to follow through with it and give that future value or WAR will come right back to their doorstep as too many governments, let alone individuals, have put serious money into their infrastructure via IQD purchases at auction. Can they do anything about the IQD held around the world? Yes, but their options are very limited. Can they do anything about the IQD held in Iraq? ABSOLUTELY! Anything they want or need and we're seeing this right now more than ever. I'll cover this more in a minute. Too many posts here and elsewhere are from people who so badly want or need the RV to save them from their financial misery and because of that misery (or greed or desire) they begin to look at the RV through the lenses of their own needs and not what is actually happening or needed from those who will actually do it. This myopic view tends to lead one astray down wishful paths of speculative dreaming. We have a saying; "Boots on Soil" or in other words; BEING THERE! If we first put our boots (in this case our minds) on soil, in Iraq and then take our speculation forward, many times we have a totally different paradigm of the events. It's the difference from looking OUT versus looking IN and knowing the difference between the two. Myopic view points come from people looking IN while trying to convince themselves and others that they are looking OUT!! Please don't take me to say or think I'm an authority or have any special info here that no one else has or can get. I just study what I can and apply it with as much prudence as possible to make my opinions! We know that there are multiple reasons for Iraq NOT to RV (albeit they get fewer day by day) and we myopically (and logically) have multiple reason for them TO RV if not immediately. They have been on this path the entire time and when it is finally done, we will all look back and probably say; "Yup, probably couldn't have happened any other way for the circumstances." Here is a link where they officially announced their intentions to Re-Denominate their currency with a general date of occurrence (within one year). The article was back on Feb 6, 2010 Iraq Planning Currency Redenomiination Note in the article that they had INTENDED for this to only take a year from the time of the press release AND Note that they fully expected to have TWO currencies on the street simultaneously... The timeline didn't work for political and occupational reasons, but the idea was sound. I'll address this a little later. It's been almost two years now and we've seen many positive steps completing this but they didn't make that timeline either as we've also seen set back after set back. I'll also cover these in a minute The question always pops up; Do they have to, or is it a MUST, that they be OUT of Chapter VII before they RV their currency? To my knowledge, the answer is NO. Sovereign countries have the right to do what they want with their currency. Would it BENEFIT them to RV while in Chapter VII? Again I believe NO is the answer. This entire EVENT must be done with minimal negative impact to the country of Iraq. So being out of Chapter VII is probably desirable prior to RV as well as having everyone "In Country" on the same page legally... i.e., Erbil and HCL laws. OKAY, Here's how I see the timeline. 1. HISTORY: Iraq needs income and because their GDP (oil production) is so low after Saddam, Iraq begins to sell IQD to the world as a primary income commodity. Commodities are sold, auctioned and traded for two reasons, intrinsic or future value and we all know as I said before, that the world is not buying dinar for its intrinsic (wall paper) value. 2. Iraq does NOT want to, and should NOT RV their currency while massive triple zero notes are "In Country" as this could easily cause civil war to break out, or inadvertently finance terrorism, not to mention their citizens becoming too rich too fast to even care about working and building up their country, plus about 30 more negative reasons. If Iraq wants to be like Qatar they can certainly get there, but they will need years of stability first, riches for the people second. If they make the people rich first, they will not be stable. If you don't know about Qatar a neighbor to the south of Iraq you should study it. Everything there is FREE to Qataris. EVERYTHING! All based on their crazy rich Natural Gas reserves. So how do they do that? They have to get their people to GIVE UP their triple zero IQD notes willingly and quickly, and preferably BEFORE they pull the trigger on the RV. But HOW? Originally I believed they were going to RV "In Country" and use TWO currencies as noted in the news. They would have put a higher Value on the the new LOWER denominations, and kept the current value on the higher denominations (basically keeping the same value for their monetary system but with two different currencies). They would allow both currencies to co-mingle on the streets and quietly and systematically remove the triple zero notes. The banking system would then just retire the higher notes as they came through in exchange for smaller notes just like all banking systems retire worn out currency. HOWEVER, in-fighting, and excessive political delays in passing laws that should be in place to protect this exchange have eaten up much of the time allotted and now Iraq is coming down to the wire and seriously needing value to their currency to continue. Not to mention that if they took that "In Country" route, they might just have all of the other nations VERY upset with them because it would look as if Iraq was snubbing the world and going back on their "Implied Contract for Value" from the auctions, and Iraq can NOT afford to have the WORLD mad at them right now. TODAY The World and mainly the U.S. wants to be repaid for 10 years of giving and giving. Plus, Iraq is now Sovereign, and every foreign company doing business with Iraq who are there to help them build their infrastructure back and allow them to come out of this on top wants to be paid with something other than Pretty WALL PAPER!! The problem is that it is seriously taking TOO long. Currency auctions without backing up your currency with higher value, (in this case oil) have a tendency to drive inflation UP And backing up or strengthening the currency is... WAIT FOR IT.... The TRIGGER you're looking for to for the RV. Inflation is a fickle thing. Below 10% is typically controllable by the Central Bank and Government but as it approaches 10% it will start to grow exponentially. And that becomes a nightmare that is quickly out of your control. Iraq can not afford out of control inflation because it will destroy them faster than a civil war. Shabs knows this and the world has seen Iraq teetering on this edge for a while now. That's why I believe he has his finger on that TRIGGER 99% of the time because as soon as he can RV their currency it will KILL inflation. THEN IT HAPPENED... Dr. Shabs had an idea. He saw something happening in the world that could get them back on track and in control,,, FAST. The European EVENT. In October-November 2011 the European economic melt down started a phenomenon. The phenomenon was this: European's out of their fear of the Euro failing were trading Euro's for USD on a massive scale so much so that the USD started to climb in value around the world just from demand. Note: There are posts all over during this time frame with people wondering why the change in dinar value. It was only because the US Dollar was getting slightly stronger because of world demand that changed the value against the dinar... CBI had done nothing to change its value. So, Shabs has his number one "mini me" Saleh, "Leak" word that the IQD was weakening against the USD Just a LEAK. WAS IT TRUE? Yes, but only half so. As I said, the IQD was truly weakening against the dollar but because of European events, not because of the Iraqi events. Now if you were "Boots on Soil" in Iraq at that time, you would have noticed something else happening. You would have noticed that there were less and less US DOLLARS in circulation. Combine THAT with Saleh's "Leak" and it might just PANIC you into thinking that your country's monetary value was AGAIN falling off the edge of the world. WHAT'S THE GOAL? The ULTIMATE Goal NECESSARY to make the RV possible with the least injury to Iraq, would be to get the Iraqi people to Voluntarily and Quickly, TURN IN their Triple Zero Notes!!! TRUTH; The real reason for less USD on the streets (in the market place) was because all of the US troops had just left and no more NEW USD was coming into the market place on paydays!! You may sneer and ask; How could they do this and get away with it? They can do this very easily because communication in Iraq is still not up to speed for the common people. They only have an hour or two (at best) of electricity each day and the only other news they have is the GAZETTE (the Governments Newspaper) and word of mouth!! Okay, so the SCARE tactic worked. Trillions of dinar has poured into Iraqi banks for almost 2 months now due to the panic, Iraqi citizens RAN to the banks trading IQD for USD because they were feeling like their own countries money was AGAIN loosing value and the True VALUE was in the US Dollar. So here's where we come to your observation SDB MIKE I believe you're right, that Shabs will wait until there is a MINIMAL amount of dinar in country, BUT I believe that day is closer than you think. The problem that I have posed in our think tank for a LONG time is this: If all you have on the streets of Iraq is triple zero notes and you RV the notes to HIGHER value, HOW DO YOU MAKE CHANGE without lower denominations?? You've got to get the lower denom's onto the street, OR Have an alternate way to make change! Shab's figured out how to do this in THREE EASY STEPS And it's happening RIGHT NOW! 1. Get the people to turn in their IQD for USD ---DONE, in the history books 2. Restore confidence in the IQD __a. Raise the value of the IQD against the USD slightly ---DONE... HAPPENED LAST WEEK 1170 to 1166 __b. Press release that "All is Well" ---HAPPENED TODAY CBI Restores Confidence in IQD 3. Revalue the currency to Match the USD already on the streets, Now they can release the lower IQD denominations (that match the currency already on the streets) and retire the USD as it comes into the banks replacing it with IQD of equal value. This is the Magical Pixie Dust for the Iraqi government and CBI. 1. Iraqi People get rid of their 000 notes VOLUNTARILY and FAST 2. Iraqi People use USD for their TEMPORARY monetary system and now have the ability to make change. 3. CBI can easily control how fast the new currency goes out to the street without stressing the country or economy. HOW DOES THE CBI CONTROL IT? If the CBI wants the exchange of USD for IQD to occur faster, all they have to do is put more confidence in the IQD versus the USD... (i.e., revalue it again just slightly higher 1.16 USD to 1 IQD) That will trigger another massive "fear of loss" exchange event and would ensue and USD would fly off the street for IQD. Another Teaser Note: 1.17 to 1 is the just the opposite of current CBI exchange rate of 1 to 1166 (just move the decimal points to 1.166!!) and THIS amount fits PERFECTLY with their wants and projected budget needs. As I said earlier, the Iraqi Government and CBI knows the rest of the world is watching and they do NOT want to owe anyone any more than they possibly have to, so they can NOT afford to send up a signal flare saying WE'RE ABOUT TO RV... because that would be a BUY, BUY, BUY signal... which would crush them. Right now if they change the auction rate too much they will send up the RV flares and cause a world buying spree, but with USD already on the streets the RV can come with a wave of the wand or Pull of the TRIGGER! While this event was not designed for the rest of the world, it still works GREAT for EVERYONE. I believe that I saw an article (perhaps someone can find it and post it) that stated that they already have LOWER denom's printed and ready to go.... So where are they keeping them? They're probably in secure CBI warehouses.... NOT in the BANKS. If they were to start moving the lower denoms to the banks THAT folks would be a signal worth acting on... But if the Iraqi citizens are using USD and can already MAKE CHANGE for sales in the market place, The CBI can now do the RV without any fanfare or notice and afterward, move their lower denom's to the banks unencumbered. Okay, we're finally seeing this ALL come to fruition. Just a week ago we saw the CBI change their artificial float rate from 1170 to 1166 which was the first step in reassuring the Iraqi people that their IQD is getting stronger. Which by the way, the Iraqi people no longer have in great quantity. This should already be wetting their appetite for their IQD again. (This action is like taking your foot off the gas pedal as you approach the exit coming off the freeway/turnpike) and TODAY Shabibi took action to slow it down even more... CBI seeks to restore confidence in the local currency against the dollar (This is totally akin to applying pressure to the BRAKE to slow the vehicle down as you prepare to make the BIG TURN to a new direction as you get off the speedway.) If I were looking for a SIGN that the CBI was believing that they were seeing the LAST of the Triple Zero notes trickling in from "In Country", THIS WOULD BE IT. With this article, the CBI now wants the Iraqi citizens to Have Faith in their IQD...OVER THE US DOLLAR... AGAIN! The people are now using USD and can make change. Here you go, They can now RV and have TWO currencies on the street at the same time as I showed you above. All the government needs to do now is get the Iraqi people to exchange their USD for IQD And the way they do that is to RV... Then they can swap out the USD for IQD at their own pace, without panicking the world into massive buying of dinar and owing even more. So, the next step in my humble opinion is the RV YEA!!! and simultaneous release of lower the denominations. This of course will come just as soon as they have the final security and laws in place to protect the event. We're seeing all of the positive movement from Iraq to finalize many laws and budgets this week, and it would appear that they have just about dotted all of their 'i's" and crossed all of their "T's" Go RV. Read more:

SDB Mike, Here's my Opinion. It will be long however, in the form of Timelines, History and of course my Educated Opinion on them all. First, I think you're looking at the right stuff and totally On Base,,, And if they (Iraq) continue to make headway like they're doing it just may be SOONER than you guess... As far as my research, knowledge, intel, timelines, conclusions and intuition goes I believe the "Gun" is already loaded and cocked, and with that I also believe that Shabs could really Pull the Trigger at any time. However, He and the other powers to be are wise men and very in tune with the limitations and outcomes of what these actions could, and will do. I believe their primary concern (I would put it at about 98%) is and will be all about what the RV actions will do TO, and FOR Iraq, while their secondary concern (the remaining 2%) will be what the RV actions will do, for and to, the rest of the world. Okay, so my percentages may be slightly off, but in the end I'll bet I'm close. As with a gun that is loaded and cocked, Pulling the trigger, can happen at anytime but pulling the trigger on any whim or at any time is not always the best or SAFEST action. No different than holding a loaded and cocked gun in your house. You probably wouldn't pull the trigger in your house, simply because you could! That would just NOT be a smart thing to do! I mean pull the trigger just because you could. Right? Even though you have it loaded and ready to go you would wait for the Right Time and the Right Place. Iraq knows that the world is watching, (and panting and drooling) for them to pull the trigger, and I'll bet Shabs has his finger on that trigger 99% of the time. But he's got to patiently wait for the right time to present its self. Yes, they know that the rest of the world is holding IQD. That fact came totally by Iraq's design by selling it at auction to the world. This was their way of making enough money to keep the lights on (so to speak). They also knew (and know) that the auctions would not work if EVERYONE buying IQD did not see a Future Value in it. That's the old; What's In It For Me, idiom. The IQD auctions work, not because people around the world want the notes for a colorful substitute for wall paper, they want them because of their perceived future value. Everything we purchase, currency or commodity is done for it's value, current or future. The value in IQD is future OIL. I believe from all that they do and say, that they KNOW, that the rest of the IQD holding world is WAITING on them to make it more valuable than it was at auction. (Auctions have a kind of "Implied" contract for future value and only work when the buying party sees greater immediate or future value in the item over what is paid for it.) Do they LIKE the fact that the rest of the world holding IRQ is waiting on them like vultures circling? NO! It's painfully obvious that they don't want to OWE anyone, any more than they absolutely have to, but they also know that they created this monster by their auctions, and even though they did it to keep the lights on they know they will have to follow through with it and give that future value or WAR will come right back to their doorstep as too many governments, let alone individuals, have put serious money into their infrastructure via IQD purchases at auction. Can they do anything about the IQD held around the world? Yes, but their options are very limited. Can they do anything about the IQD held in Iraq? ABSOLUTELY! Anything they want or need and we're seeing this right now more than ever. I'll cover this more in a minute. Too many posts here and elsewhere are from people who so badly want or need the RV to save them from their financial misery and because of that misery (or greed or desire) they begin to look at the RV through the lenses of their own needs and not what is actually happening or needed from those who will actually do it. This myopic view tends to lead one astray down wishful paths of speculative dreaming. We have a saying; "Boots on Soil" or in other words; BEING THERE! If we first put our boots (in this case our minds) on soil, in Iraq and then take our speculation forward, many times we have a totally different paradigm of the events. It's the difference from looking OUT versus looking IN and knowing the difference between the two. Myopic view points come from people looking IN while trying to convince themselves and others that they are looking OUT!! Please don't take me to say or think I'm an authority or have any special info here that no one else has or can get. I just study what I can and apply it with as much prudence as possible to make my opinions! We know that there are multiple reasons for Iraq NOT to RV (albeit they get fewer day by day) and we myopically (and logically) have multiple reason for them TO RV if not immediately. They have been on this path the entire time and when it is finally done, we will all look back and probably say; "Yup, probably couldn't have happened any other way for the circumstances." Here is a link where they officially announced their intentions to Re-Denominate their currency with a general date of occurrence (within one year). The article was back on Feb 6, 2010 Iraq Planning Currency Redenomiination Note in the article that they had INTENDED for this to only take a year from the time of the press release AND Note that they fully expected to have TWO currencies on the street simultaneously... The timeline didn't work for political and occupational reasons, but the idea was sound. I'll address this a little later. It's been almost two years now and we've seen many positive steps completing this but they didn't make that timeline either as we've also seen set back after set back. I'll also cover these in a minute The question always pops up; Do they have to, or is it a MUST, that they be OUT of Chapter VII before they RV their currency? To my knowledge, the answer is NO. Sovereign countries have the right to do what they want with their currency. Would it BENEFIT them to RV while in Chapter VII? Again I believe NO is the answer. This entire EVENT must be done with minimal negative impact to the country of Iraq. So being out of Chapter VII is probably desirable prior to RV as well as having everyone "In Country" on the same page legally... i.e., Erbil and HCL laws. OKAY, Here's how I see the timeline. 1. HISTORY: Iraq needs income and because their GDP (oil production) is so low after Saddam, Iraq begins to sell IQD to the world as a primary income commodity. Commodities are sold, auctioned and traded for two reasons, intrinsic or future value and we all know as I said before, that the world is not buying dinar for its intrinsic (wall paper) value. 2. Iraq does NOT want to, and should NOT RV their currency while massive triple zero notes are "In Country" as this could easily cause civil war to break out, or inadvertently finance terrorism, not to mention their citizens becoming too rich too fast to even care about working and building up their country, plus about 30 more negative reasons. If Iraq wants to be like Qatar they can certainly get there, but they will need years of stability first, riches for the people second. If they make the people rich first, they will not be stable. If you don't know about Qatar a neighbor to the south of Iraq you should study it. Everything there is FREE to Qataris. EVERYTHING! All based on their crazy rich Natural Gas reserves. So how do they do that? They have to get their people to GIVE UP their triple zero IQD notes willingly and quickly, and preferably BEFORE they pull the trigger on the RV. But HOW? Originally I believed they were going to RV "In Country" and use TWO currencies as noted in the news. They would have put a higher Value on the the new LOWER denominations, and kept the current value on the higher denominations (basically keeping the same value for their monetary system but with two different currencies). They would allow both currencies to co-mingle on the streets and quietly and systematically remove the triple zero notes. The banking system would then just retire the higher notes as they came through in exchange for smaller notes just like all banking systems retire worn out currency. HOWEVER, in-fighting, and excessive political delays in passing laws that should be in place to protect this exchange have eaten up much of the time allotted and now Iraq is coming down to the wire and seriously needing value to their currency to continue. Not to mention that if they took that "In Country" route, they might just have all of the other nations VERY upset with them because it would look as if Iraq was snubbing the world and going back on their "Implied Contract for Value" from the auctions, and Iraq can NOT afford to have the WORLD mad at them right now. TODAY The World and mainly the U.S. wants to be repaid for 10 years of giving and giving. Plus, Iraq is now Sovereign, and every foreign company doing business with Iraq who are there to help them build their infrastructure back and allow them to come out of this on top wants to be paid with something other than Pretty WALL PAPER!! The problem is that it is seriously taking TOO long. Currency auctions without backing up your currency with higher value, (in this case oil) have a tendency to drive inflation UP And backing up or strengthening the currency is... WAIT FOR IT.... The TRIGGER you're looking for to for the RV. Inflation is a fickle thing. Below 10% is typically controllable by the Central Bank and Government but as it approaches 10% it will start to grow exponentially. And that becomes a nightmare that is quickly out of your control. Iraq can not afford out of control inflation because it will destroy them faster than a civil war. Shabs knows this and the world has seen Iraq teetering on this edge for a while now. That's why I believe he has his finger on that TRIGGER 99% of the time because as soon as he can RV their currency it will KILL inflation. THEN IT HAPPENED... Dr. Shabs had an idea. He saw something happening in the world that could get them back on track and in control,,, FAST. The European EVENT. In October-November 2011 the European economic melt down started a phenomenon. The phenomenon was this: European's out of their fear of the Euro failing were trading Euro's for USD on a massive scale so much so that the USD started to climb in value around the world just from demand. Note: There are posts all over during this time frame with people wondering why the change in dinar value. It was only because the US Dollar was getting slightly stronger because of world demand that changed the value against the dinar... CBI had done nothing to change its value. So, Shabs has his number one "mini me" Saleh, "Leak" word that the IQD was weakening against the USD Just a LEAK. WAS IT TRUE? Yes, but only half so. As I said, the IQD was truly weakening against the dollar but because of European events, not because of the Iraqi events. Now if you were "Boots on Soil" in Iraq at that time, you would have noticed something else happening. You would have noticed that there were less and less US DOLLARS in circulation. Combine THAT with Saleh's "Leak" and it might just PANIC you into thinking that your country's monetary value was AGAIN falling off the edge of the world. WHAT'S THE GOAL? The ULTIMATE Goal NECESSARY to make the RV possible with the least injury to Iraq, would be to get the Iraqi people to Voluntarily and Quickly, TURN IN their Triple Zero Notes!!! TRUTH; The real reason for less USD on the streets (in the market place) was because all of the US troops had just left and no more NEW USD was coming into the market place on paydays!! You may sneer and ask; How could they do this and get away with it? They can do this very easily because communication in Iraq is still not up to speed for the common people. They only have an hour or two (at best) of electricity each day and the only other news they have is the GAZETTE (the Governments Newspaper) and word of mouth!! Okay, so the SCARE tactic worked. Trillions of dinar has poured into Iraqi banks for almost 2 months now due to the panic, Iraqi citizens RAN to the banks trading IQD for USD because they were feeling like their own countries money was AGAIN loosing value and the True VALUE was in the US Dollar. So here's where we come to your observation SDB MIKE I believe you're right, that Shabs will wait until there is a MINIMAL amount of dinar in country, BUT I believe that day is closer than you think. The problem that I have posed in our think tank for a LONG time is this: If all you have on the streets of Iraq is triple zero notes and you RV the notes to HIGHER value, HOW DO YOU MAKE CHANGE without lower denominations?? You've got to get the lower denom's onto the street, OR Have an alternate way to make change! Shab's figured out how to do this in THREE EASY STEPS And it's happening RIGHT NOW! 1. Get the people to turn in their IQD for USD ---DONE, in the history books 2. Restore confidence in the IQD __a. Raise the value of the IQD against the USD slightly ---DONE... HAPPENED LAST WEEK 1170 to 1166 __b. Press release that "All is Well" ---HAPPENED TODAY CBI Restores Confidence in IQD 3. Revalue the currency to Match the USD already on the streets, Now they can release the lower IQD denominations (that match the currency already on the streets) and retire the USD as it comes into the banks replacing it with IQD of equal value. This is the Magical Pixie Dust for the Iraqi government and CBI. 1. Iraqi People get rid of their 000 notes VOLUNTARILY and FAST 2. Iraqi People use USD for their TEMPORARY monetary system and now have the ability to make change. 3. CBI can easily control how fast the new currency goes out to the street without stressing the country or economy. HOW DOES THE CBI CONTROL IT? If the CBI wants the exchange of USD for IQD to occur faster, all they have to do is put more confidence in the IQD versus the USD... (i.e., revalue it again just slightly higher 1.16 USD to 1 IQD) That will trigger another massive "fear of loss" exchange event and would ensue and USD would fly off the street for IQD. Another Teaser Note: 1.17 to 1 is the just the opposite of current CBI exchange rate of 1 to 1166 (just move the decimal points to 1.166!!) and THIS amount fits PERFECTLY with their wants and projected budget needs. As I said earlier, the Iraqi Government and CBI knows the rest of the world is watching and they do NOT want to owe anyone any more than they possibly have to, so they can NOT afford to send up a signal flare saying WE'RE ABOUT TO RV... because that would be a BUY, BUY, BUY signal... which would crush them. Right now if they change the auction rate too much they will send up the RV flares and cause a world buying spree, but with USD already on the streets the RV can come with a wave of the wand or Pull of the TRIGGER! While this event was not designed for the rest of the world, it still works GREAT for EVERYONE. I believe that I saw an article (perhaps someone can find it and post it) that stated that they already have LOWER denom's printed and ready to go.... So where are they keeping them? They're probably in secure CBI warehouses.... NOT in the BANKS. If they were to start moving the lower denoms to the banks THAT folks would be a signal worth acting on... But if the Iraqi citizens are using USD and can already MAKE CHANGE for sales in the market place, The CBI can now do the RV without any fanfare or notice and afterward, move their lower denom's to the banks unencumbered. Okay, we're finally seeing this ALL come to fruition. Just a week ago we saw the CBI change their artificial float rate from 1170 to 1166 which was the first step in reassuring the Iraqi people that their IQD is getting stronger. Which by the way, the Iraqi people no longer have in great quantity. This should already be wetting their appetite for their IQD again. (This action is like taking your foot off the gas pedal as you approach the exit coming off the freeway/turnpike) and TODAY Shabibi took action to slow it down even more... CBI seeks to restore confidence in the local currency against the dollar (This is totally akin to applying pressure to the BRAKE to slow the vehicle down as you prepare to make the BIG TURN to a new direction as you get off the speedway.) If I were looking for a SIGN that the CBI was believing that they were seeing the LAST of the Triple Zero notes trickling in from "In Country", THIS WOULD BE IT. With this article, the CBI now wants the Iraqi citizens to Have Faith in their IQD...OVER THE US DOLLAR... AGAIN! The people are now using USD and can make change. Here you go, They can now RV and have TWO currencies on the street at the same time as I showed you above. All the government needs to do now is get the Iraqi people to exchange their USD for IQD And the way they do that is to RV... Then they can swap out the USD for IQD at their own pace, without panicking the world into massive buying of dinar and owing even more. So, the next step in my humble opinion is the RV YEA!!! and simultaneous release of lower the denominations. This of course will come just as soon as they have the final security and laws in place to protect the event. We're seeing all of the positive movement from Iraq to finalize many laws and budgets this week, and it would appear that they have just about dotted all of their 'i's" and crossed all of their "T's" Go RV.

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Panetta just announced on Fox that we will be cutting 70,000 US ARMY soldiers and 20,000 Marines. We send them to protect our freedom and Obama fires them when they get home, We are going the wrong way folks.

Alright ... I get what U.S. is trying to do by telling them that they must compromise and get along with each-other. My problem with this scenario is .... DO YA ACTUALLY THINK THEY ARE GONNA LISTEN TO US WHEN WE (U.S. Goverment) IS GUILTY OF THE EXACT SAME THING RIGHT NOW? The Democrats and Republicans can't get along, can't agree on anything, are self-serving, and don't give a 'flying U Know What' about the country or it's people. The Iraqi government was spawned by the U.S. government ... With that being said .... Didn't they learn from us and why should WE expect them to act any differently? Just sayin' ....

Is this really true????????? If you figure out what selling your home has to do with Health Care, please let me know. Does it make you wonder what else is in that bill?.................j Fw: If you own a home, better read this... You better read now!!!! THIS WILL BLOW YOU AWAY !!!!! The National Association of REALTORS is all over this and working to get it repealed, before it takes effect. But, I am very pleased we aren't the only ones who know about this ploy to steal billions from unsuspecting homeowners. How many REALTORS do you think will vote Democratic in 2012? Did you know that if you sell your house after 2012 you will pay a 3.8% sales tax on it? That's $3,800 on a $100,000 home, etc. When did this happen? It's in the health care bill and goes into effect in 2013. Why 2013? Could it be to come to light AFTER the 2012 elections? So, this is "change you can believe in"? Under the new health care bill all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% Sales Tax. If you sell a $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation who often downsize their homes. Does this make your November and 2012 vote more important? Oh, you weren't aware this was in the Obamacare bill? Guess what, you aren't alone. There are more than a few members of Congress that aren't aware of it either . I hope you forward this to every single person in your address book. VOTERS NEED TO KNOW .

We all have our 15 minutes... Thanks all.. I was just about to repost it... been real busy at the office!! Here's the essay with links What will trigger the RV? What are the timelines and events that will finally kick this off? This question was posted in the VIP section of which I gave this reply. The VIP members suggested that I post it in the General Forums for everyone. JUST THINK WHAT YOU'RE MISSING BY NOT BEING IN THE VIP!! Here's my Opinion from 40,000 feet on: 1. What I believe will be the trigger for the RV and 2. What the potential rates would logically shake down to. This is an ESSAY in the form of Timelines, History and of course my Educated Opinion on ALL of the pertinent issues. OKAY...Ready? As far as my research, knowledge, intel, timelines, conclusions and intuition goes I believe the "Gun" is already loaded and cocked, and with that I also believe that Shabs could really Pull the Trigger at any time. However, He and the other powers to be are wise men and very in tune with the limitations and outcomes of what these actions could, and will do. I believe their primary concern (I would put it at about 98%) is and will be all about what the RV actions will do TO, and FOR Iraq, while their secondary concern (the remaining 2%) will be what the RV actions will do, for and to, the rest of the world. Okay, so my percentages may be slightly off, but in the end I'll bet I'm close. As with a gun that is loaded and cocked, Pulling the trigger, can happen at anytime but pulling the trigger on any whim or at any time is not always the best or SAFEST action. No different than holding a loaded and cocked gun in your house. You probably wouldn't pull the trigger in your house, simply because you could! That would just NOT be a smart thing to do! I mean pull the trigger just because you could. Right? Even though you have it loaded and ready to go you would wait for the Right Time and the Right Place. Iraq knows that the world is watching, (and panting and drooling) for them to pull the trigger, and I'll bet Shabs has his finger on that trigger 99% of the time. But he's got to patiently wait for the right time to present its self. Yes, they know that the rest of the world is holding IQD. That fact came totally by Iraq's design by selling it at auction to the world. This was their way of making enough money to keep the lights on (so to speak). They also knew (and know) that the auctions would not work if EVERYONE buying IQD did not see a Future Value in it. That's the old; What's In It For Me, idiom. The IQD auctions work, not because people around the world want the notes for a colorful substitute for wall paper, they want them because of their perceived future value. Everything we purchase, currency or commodity is done for it's value, current or future. The value in IQD is future OIL. I believe from all that they do and say, that they KNOW, that the rest of the IQD holding world is WAITING on them to make it more valuable than it was at auction. (Auctions have a kind of "Implied" contract for future value and only work when the buying party sees greater immediate or future value in the item over what is paid for it.) Do they LIKE the fact that the rest of the world holding IRQ is waiting on them like vultures circling? NO! It's painfully obvious that they don't want to OWE anyone, any more than they absolutely have to, but they also know that they created this monster by their auctions, and even though they did it to keep the lights on they know they will have to follow through with it and give that future value or WAR will come right back to their doorstep as too many governments, let alone individuals, have put serious money into their infrastructure via IQD purchases at auction. Can they do anything about the IQD held around the world? Yes, but their options are very limited. Can they do anything about the IQD held in Iraq? ABSOLUTELY! Anything they want or need and we're seeing this right now more than ever. I'll cover this more in a minute. Too many posts here and elsewhere are from people who so badly want or need the RV to save them from their financial misery and because of that misery (or greed or desire) they begin to look at the RV through the lenses of their own needs and not what is actually happening or needed from those who will actually do it. This myopic view tends to lead one astray down wishful paths of speculative dreaming. We have a saying; "Boots on Soil" or in other words; BEING THERE! If we first put our boots (in this case our minds) on soil, in Iraq and then take our speculation forward, many times we have a totally different paradigm of the events. It's the difference from looking OUT versus looking IN and knowing the difference between the two. Myopic view points come from people looking IN while trying to convince themselves and others that they are looking OUT!! Please don't take me to say or think I'm an authority or have any special info here that no one else has or can get. I just study what I can and apply it with as much prudence as possible to make my opinions! We know that there are multiple reasons for Iraq NOT to RV (albeit they get fewer day by day) and we myopically (and logically) have multiple reason for them TO RV if not immediately. They have been on this path the entire time and when it is finally done, we will all look back and probably say; "Yup, probably couldn't have happened any other way for the circumstances." Here is a link where they officially announced their intentions to Re-Denominate their currency with a general date of occurrence (within one year). The article was back on Feb 6, 2010 Iraq Planning Currency Redenomiination Note in the article that they had INTENDED for this to only take a year from the time of the press release AND Note that they fully expected to have TWO currencies on the street simultaneously... The timeline didn't work for political and occupational reasons, but the idea was sound. I'll address this a little later. It's been almost two years now and we've seen many positive steps completing this but they didn't make that timeline either as we've also seen set back after set back. I'll also cover these in a minute The question always pops up; Do they have to, or is it a MUST, that they be OUT of Chapter VII before they RV their currency? To my knowledge, the answer is NO. Sovereign countries have the right to do what they want with their currency. Would it BENEFIT them to RV while in Chapter VII? Again I believe NO is the answer. This entire EVENT must be done with minimal negative impact to the country of Iraq. So being out of Chapter VII is probably desirable prior to RV as well as having everyone "In Country" on the same page legally... i.e., Erbil and HCL laws. OKAY, Here's how I see the timeline. 1. HISTORY: Iraq needs income and because their GDP (oil production) is so low after Saddam, Iraq begins to sell IQD to the world as a primary income commodity. Commodities are sold, auctioned and traded for two reasons, intrinsic or future value and we all know as I said before, that the world is not buying dinar for its intrinsic (wall paper) value. 2. Iraq does NOT want to, and should NOT RV their currency while massive triple zero notes are "In Country" as this could easily cause civil war to break out, or inadvertently finance terrorism, not to mention their citizens becoming too rich too fast to even care about working and building up their country, plus about 30 more negative reasons. If Iraq wants to be like Qatar they can certainly get there, but they will need years of stability first, riches for the people second. If they make the people rich first, they will not be stable. If you don't know about Qatar a neighbor to the south of Iraq you should study it. Everything there is FREE to Qataris. EVERYTHING! All based on their crazy rich Natural Gas reserves. So how do they do that? They have to get their people to GIVE UP their triple zero IQD notes willingly and quickly, and preferably BEFORE they pull the trigger on the RV. But HOW? Originally I believed they were going to RV "In Country" and use TWO currencies as noted in the news. They would have put a higher Value on the the new LOWER denominations, and kept the current value on the higher denominations (basically keeping the same value for their monetary system but with two different currencies). They would allow both currencies to co-mingle on the streets and quietly and systematically remove the triple zero notes. The banking system would then just retire the higher notes as they came through in exchange for smaller notes just like all banking systems retire worn out currency. HOWEVER, in-fighting, and excessive political delays in passing laws that should be in place to protect this exchange have eaten up much of the time allotted and now Iraq is coming down to the wire and seriously needing value to their currency to continue. Not to mention that if they took that "In Country" route, they might just have all of the other nations VERY upset with them because it would look as if Iraq was snubbing the world and going back on their "Implied Contract for Value" from the auctions, and Iraq can NOT afford to have the WORLD mad at them right now. TODAY The World and mainly the U.S. wants to be repaid for 10 years of giving and giving. Plus, Iraq is now Sovereign, and every foreign company doing business with Iraq who are there to help them build their infrastructure back and allow them to come out of this on top wants to be paid with something other than Pretty WALL PAPER!! The problem is that it is seriously taking TOO long. Currency auctions without backing up your currency with higher value, (in this case oil) have a tendency to drive inflation UP And backing up or strengthening the currency is... WAIT FOR IT.... The TRIGGER you're looking for to for the RV. Inflation is a fickle thing. Below 10% is typically controllable by the Central Bank and Government but as it approaches 10% it will start to grow exponentially. And that becomes a nightmare that is quickly out of your control. Iraq can not afford out of control inflation because it will destroy them faster than a civil war. Shabs knows this and the world has seen Iraq teetering on this edge for a while now. That's why I believe he has his finger on that TRIGGER 99% of the time because as soon as he can RV their currency it will KILL inflation. THEN IT HAPPENED... Dr. Shabs had an idea. He saw something happening in the world that could get them back on track and in control,,, FAST. The European EVENT. In October-November 2011 the European economic melt down started a phenomenon. The phenomenon was this: European's out of their fear of the Euro failing were trading Euro's for USD on a massive scale so much so that the USD started to climb in value around the world just from demand. Note: There are posts all over during this time frame with people wondering why the change in dinar value. It was only because the US Dollar was getting slightly stronger because of world demand that changed the value against the dinar... CBI had done nothing to change its value. So, Shabs has his number one "mini me" Saleh, "Leak" word that the IQD was weakening against the USD Just a LEAK. WAS IT TRUE? Yes, but only half so. As I said, the IQD was truly weakening against the dollar but because of European events, not because of the Iraqi events. Now if you were "Boots on Soil" in Iraq at that time, you would have noticed something else happening. You would have noticed that there were less and less US DOLLARS in circulation. Combine THAT with Saleh's "Leak" and it might just PANIC you into thinking that your country's monetary value was AGAIN falling off the edge of the world. WHAT'S THE GOAL? The ULTIMATE Goal NECESSARY to make the RV possible with the least injury to Iraq, would be to get the Iraqi people to Voluntarily and Quickly, TURN IN their Triple Zero Notes!!! TRUTH; The real reason for less USD on the streets (in the market place) was because all of the US troops had just left and no more NEW USD was coming into the market place on paydays!! You may sneer and ask; How could they do this and get away with it? They can do this very easily because communication in Iraq is still not up to speed for the common people. They only have an hour or two (at best) of electricity each day and the only other news they have is the GAZETTE (the Governments Newspaper) and word of mouth!! Okay, so the SCARE tactic worked. Trillions of dinar has poured into Iraqi banks for almost 2 months now due to the panic, Iraqi citizens RAN to the banks trading IQD for USD because they were feeling like their own countries money was AGAIN loosing value and the True VALUE was in the US Dollar. I believe that Dr. Shabs will wait until there is a MINIMAL amount of dinar in country, BUT I believe that day is closer than many people think. The problem, that I have posed in our think tank for a LONG time is this: If all you have on the streets of Iraq is triple zero notes and you RV the notes to HIGHER value, HOW DO YOU MAKE CHANGE without lower denominations?? You've either got to get the lower denom's onto the street, OR Have an alternate way to make change from a business transaction! Shab's figured out how to do this in THREE EASY STEPS And it's happening RIGHT NOW! 1. Get the people to turn in their IQD for USD ---DONE, in the history books 2. Restore confidence in the IQD __a. Raise the value of the IQD against the USD slightly ---DONE... HAPPENED LAST WEEK 1170 to 1166 __b. Press release that "All is Well" ---HAPPENED SUNDAY CBI Restores Confidence in IQD 3. Revalue the currency to Match the USD already on the streets, Now they can release the lower IQD denominations (that match the currency already on the streets) and retire the USD as it comes into the banks replacing it with IQD of equal value. This is the Magical Pixie Dust for the Iraqi government and CBI. 1. Iraqi People get rid of their 000 notes VOLUNTARILY and FAST 2. Iraqi People use USD for their TEMPORARY monetary system and now have the ability to make change. 3. CBI can easily control how fast the new currency goes out to the street without stressing the country or economy. HOW DOES THE CBI CONTROL IT? If the CBI wants the exchange of USD for IQD to occur faster, all they have to do is put more confidence in the IQD versus the USD... (i.e., revalue it again just slightly higher 1.16 USD to 1 IQD) That will trigger another massive "fear of loss" exchange event and would ensue and USD would fly off the street for IQD. Another Teaser Note: 1.17 to 1 is the just the opposite of current CBI exchange rate of 1 to 1166 (just move the decimal points to 1.166!!) and THIS amount fits PERFECTLY with their wants and projected budget needs. As I said earlier, the Iraqi Government and CBI knows the rest of the world is watching and they do NOT want to owe anyone any more than they possibly have to, so they can NOT afford to send up a signal flare saying WE'RE ABOUT TO RV... because that would be a BUY, BUY, BUY signal... which would crush them. Right now if they change the auction rate too much they will send up the RV flares and cause a world buying spree, but with USD already on the streets the RV can come with a wave of the wand or Pull of the TRIGGER! While this event was not designed for the rest of the world, it still works GREAT for EVERYONE. I believe that I saw an article (perhaps someone can find it and post it) that stated that they already have LOWER denom's printed and ready to go.... So where are they keeping them? They're probably in secure CBI warehouses.... NOT in the BANKS. If they were to start moving the lower denoms to the banks THAT folks would be a signal worth acting on... But if the Iraqi citizens are using USD and can already MAKE CHANGE for sales in the market place, The CBI can now do the RV without any fanfare or notice and afterward, move their lower denom's to the banks unencumbered. Okay, we're finally seeing this ALL come to fruition. Just a week ago we saw the CBI change their artificial float rate from 1170 to 1166 which was the first step in reassuring the Iraqi people that their IQD is getting stronger. Which by the way, the Iraqi people no longer have in great quantity. This should already be wetting their appetite for their IQD again. (This action is like taking your foot off the gas pedal as you approach the exit coming off the freeway/turnpike) and TODAY Shabibi took action to slow it down even more... CBI seeks to restore confidence in the local currency against the dollar (This is totally akin to applying pressure to the BRAKE to slow the vehicle down as you prepare to make the BIG TURN to a new direction as you get off the speedway.) If I were looking for a SIGN that the CBI was believing that they were seeing the LAST of the Triple Zero notes trickling in from "In Country", THIS WOULD BE IT. With this article, the CBI now wants the Iraqi citizens to Have Faith in their IQD...OVER THE US DOLLAR... AGAIN! The people are now using USD and can make change. Here you go, They can now RV and have TWO currencies on the street at the same time as I showed you above. All the government needs to do now is get the Iraqi people to exchange their USD for IQD And the way they do that is to RV... Then they can swap out the USD for IQD at their own pace, without panicking the world into massive buying of dinar and owing even more. So, the next step in my humble opinion is the RV YEA!!! and simultaneous release of lower the denominations. This of course will come just as soon as they have the final security and laws in place to protect the event. We're seeing all of the positive movement from Iraq to finalize many laws and budgets this week, and it would appear that they have just about dotted all of their 'i's" and crossed all of their "T's" Go RV.

Thanks to everyone for clearing up my post. I should have calculated from at least 1936. However, who knows what the hell is the truth... hopefully it's cleared up some sort of way. I do believe that Obama administration has pumped the brakes on the direction we were going on some critical matters and I surely hope our country continues to turn around; no matter how slowly. If the court finds real deception in BC, some will be happy but overall damaging for America at large. BTW: I always ignore sportfisher... I understand his dislike for me. We're cool like that!

Check the status of these statements they are correct.........Wake up America

Who in the heck is Macaine????Wait is he talking about John McCain????if you are talking about John McCain, he has been talking about that ever sense the US pulled out of Iraq... I have to totally disagree with you on him being the dumbest.....

Skybear - you enjoy the controversy of all of this. You love to make people worry and do it under the guise of being concerned for others welfare of not getting their $$. That they have been mislead supposedly. Do you forget we are all adults ... we are all responsible for our decisions. Stop trying to bully people into your way of thinking and if you dont believe in this investment - MOVE ON .. go play poker or take up knitting or whatever floats your boat. you certainly dont belong here if you dont support the people who are here trying to hang on.

Is this John McCain, the Senator.................he's an idiot anyways . Just gettin' face time......... he don't know squat !!

Maybe. Maybe not. Who knows? They are for sure going through growing pains, but what new "democracy" has not? IMO they have as good of a shot of making it as anybody else. Keep in mind, their "Democracy" is totally different than ours, or anyone else's for that matter. Cultures are different. When countries that are historically under dictatorship become more self governing, chaos always ensues. We will see this forever. Heck, the USA was a mess with in-fighting following the Revolutionary war. That is exactly what brought on the Civil War almost 100 years later. Things evolve. I can only keep the faith. Frankly, I care less about any RV than I do about seeing folks have freedom from tyranny. If I make a few bucks, great. If not and I lose my investment, no problem. I've lost investment $ before and I only invested what I could afford to lose to begin with. jmo.

Dinarlarry, Are you old enough to be on this site? I cannot believe you are more than 5 and scheduled to start school next week. What are you saying.....

Well I just lost my cookies.... Just like any American, if we were summon to show for Court we would have to abide by the law. Not being present just makes him looks...I just can't say it, its not very nice. Now I wouldn't call that a leader, maybe more of person trying to hide when an issue comes up. I like this Judge :D Hope he stands firm.

Yota, thanks for bringing this to the site. This is a long read, but mesmerizing !! I am passing this on to several of my friends. As for me, history has never been a passion -- this, however, instills passion in me to learn more. Your post has been worth every minute of the time that it took to read, and I pray that hundreds, and hundreds times hundreds - ad infinitum, -- read it. People seem to not realize that the Bible is history, and more importantly, prophetic. This post is a study in history, and for those of us whom are believers, prophetic as well. Thanks again, Yota.

I thought if they did not get HCL voted on, the 2007 agreement would be enacted. Truthfully I am beginning they throw article after article into the media, all contradicting the other so no one knows what they are really doing. Maybe thats their secret weapon....confusion.

Clueless is the word YOU used so answer me this...Do you think Shabbs is clueless or maybe he does have a plan that only he knows. Why does anyone want to own this " worthless toilet paper " then? Answer me that because there's a lot of very intelligent people involved here. Probably smarter than you and I put together. Look at all the angles before you beat this drum you propose! Quad

Skybear.................you are a real piece of work. You used to come on here ranting how there would never be a RV because the CBI was selling pallet loads of IQD daily at the foreign currency auctions, using your misunderstanding of the auctions as a negative on this speculation. Now......................here you are ranting there will never be a RV because the banks are buying foreign currency with there IQD going back to the CBI, making it a negative on this speculation. So......................if your have any IQD, you should just sell it and find something to do that is more fun for you.................GO FISHING!..............for fish.............. and......................if you don't hold any IQD...............why are you here???....................GO FISHING...................for fish..........................><> If.........................you are doing this because you think that if everyone stops buying IQD it will RV.......................then OK..............but that won't work .............GO FISHING!

Thanks for your perspective, jimmielee333. +1 for you. My business partner for 10+ years was a brilliant and wonderful (african american) man. I hate to categorize him as other than a man, but for my point I include the parenthetical expression. I know that he would take being referred to as a monkey as one of the worst words you could call him. I guess that rock is still there for some, jim! Too bad.

Speeding Senior A retired man in Florida bought a brand new Mercedes convertible. He took off down the road, flooring it to 80 mph and enjoying the wind blowing through what hair was left on his head. “This is great,” he thought as he roared down I-75. He pushed the pedal to the metal when he spotted a highway patrol trooper in his rear view mirror–blue lights flashing and siren blaring. “I can get away from him with no problem,” thought the man and he flew down the road at over 120 mph! Then he thought, “What am I doing? I’m too old for this kind of thing.” He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the trooper to catch up with him. The trooper pulled in behind the Mercedes and walked up to the man. “Sir,” he said, looking at his watch. “My shift ends in 30 minutes and today is Friday. If you can give me a reason why you were speeding that I’ve never heard before, I’ll let you go.” The man looked at the trooper and said, “Years ago my wife ran off with a Florida State Trooper, and I thought you were bringing her back.” The trooper replied, “Sir, have a nice day.”

this topic has been hammered to death at this stage ......... every week same auction question comes up ...... there selling dollars and buying dinar back from the banks.

"Frst I hold a PHDorganizational behavior for over 30 years." I hold a minor in English and I question your sobriety. Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1kaGgcgSS

Biden’s Blindness Thursday, January 26, 2012 2:01 The morning after President Obama gave his opening campaign lie, I mean his 2012 State of the Union address, Vice President Joe Biden appeared on the CBS This Morning show. They also hosted House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, but only gave Cantor one third the time that they gave Biden, which is no surprise ever since they started their new line-up of hosts earlier this month, the show has been extremely openly biased for Obama and the Democrats. Vice President Biden was interviewed by anchor Charlie Rose. As I listened to the interview, Biden’s prejudicial biases came shining through. Listen to a couple of the questions Rose asked Biden and then read Biden’s responses: Rose: “Many looked at that State of the Union address and said it was an address to the state of the union but it was also the opening of a political campaign and that it was almost a campaign message of which the center element was fairness.” Biden: “Well, that’s been the essence of what we’ve been talking about from the beginning Charlie. When we ran we talked about this being about the middle class. Look, the bargains have been broken with the middle class and I know that Mr. Daniels, er Gov Daniels, and others have talked about class warfare or we’re picking people, but the bottom line is simple. The middle class has been hammered, they’ve been hammered and we think we should be focusing on what’s fair is to give them a shot. That’s where our focus on manufacturing, there’s good jobs there. They’re coming home. That’s why we focused on education. That’s part of the middle class dream that you can have a kid go on to college, go on to school after high school. And that’s why we focused on the whole notion that we’re going to go out there and make sure middle class people get a fair shot…Without the middle class growing nothing happens good in this country. Nothing happens that’s positive and they’ve not been growing. They deserve a piece of the growth.” Rose: “The essence of this speech was the military metaphor. The President brought it up at the beginning, he brought it up at the end. The military he said works together. Does the administration also bear some responsibility for the paralysis in Washington in which two sides are not working together?” Biden: “Look, Charlie, I don’t think so. This President came in with open arms. He said look I’m willing to talk to anybody. I’m ready to sit down. And by the way we did on major, major issues. Sit down with Republican leadership and in fairness to them we made deals that we thought we could have, could have a deal. I shook hands a couple of the leaders saying okay, we can do that and they’d call back and say, Joe I can’t deliver that. I can’t get it done. What happened was the election, 2010 elected a group of Republicans that are a minority but seem to be the tail that’s wagging the dog. The President has reached out in every way…” Biden’s response to the first question almost made me choke on my breakfast. He made it sound like Obama and his administration were the champions of the middle class. He talked about giving the middle class a ‘fair shot.’ The Obama administration hasn’t given the middle class a fair shot since they took office. In the three years of the Obama reign, the middle class had been steadily shrinking and the poverty class has been increasing as has the wealthy class. The middle class has been hit the hardest in jobs and foreclosures. Biden was truthful when he said, “Without the middle class growing nothing happens good in this country. Nothing happens that’s positive and they’ve not been growing.” However it appears that the Obama administration doesn’t want the middle class to survive or experience a positive growth. A truly socialist nation only has two classes, the wealthy elite and the rest which are generally living in poverty and this is exactly what Obama has been striving towards. Biden’s response to Rose’s second question was absolutely delusional when he said that the Obama administration is not responsible for any of the paralysis in Washington. Does Biden forget that Obama has announced on more than one occasion that he would not consider any action of the Republicans unless it contained the provisions that Obama proposed? Does Biden also forget how many times Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said that the Senate would not consider any bills that came from the House unless they contained the provisions that the Democrats insisted on? Does Biden forget that the Republican House sent a dozen jobs bills to the Democratic Senate who rejected one and refused to even read the other eleven? Does Biden forget that BOTH House Republicans and Senate Democrats publicly insisted on holding their ground on the payroll tax cut issue a couple months ago? Biden must be completely blind and stubbornly ignorant of anything going on in Washington if he can honestly say that the Obama administration bore no responsibility for the paralysis in Washington. And being that blind and stubborn, perhaps the Democratic Party should drop the jackass as their symbol and replace it with Biden, but then again, there’s really no difference, is there? http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1677/355/Biden_s_Blindness.html

I don't understand this one bit. Haven't we read a bunch of articles in the past week that said there was an agreement in place??? These people are pissing me off so bad.

Thank you for the last line about Kuwait... there is ZERO commonality... 1990 Kuwait had billions in circulation and 2011 Iraq has 10's of trillions... History shows us what's going to happen.