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  1. Is that what your going to say when you are moved into a UN interment camp? How about when the mass genocide begins, still all lolly pops and unicorns? you are a complete waste of good air. There is no excuse for your denial and delusion.
    18 points
  2. dont let the lopsters get you all down. this article from yesterday states they have 58 trillion DINAR in there reserve! why oh why would iraq lop 58 trillion worth of dinar, its roughly 30% more than they claim to have in circ. how this is going to work is like this.....lopsters grab a pen.......... iraq is going to rv close to $1.00 then they will suck all the dinar from out of country 8-12 trillion dinar (pure guess, but i am close) then they will go up to the value it is worth probably $2.50-$3.00 see iraq has plans on making trillions on this deal, its not about the investors, its about iraq, and we are a simple problem for iraq to take care of lopsters, why would they lop 58 trillion they currently have in there hands? answer is...........they wont...
    16 points
  3. Iraq to call on UN to respect its sovereignty 9/17/2011 3:06 PM BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: Iraqi Foreign Ministry’s Undersecretary, Lubeid Abbawi, has said on Saturday that his government’s delegation scheduled to attend the United Nation’s meetings in New York would call on the International Organization to “respect its sovereignty and support its exclusion from Charter 7.” “Iraq shall attend the UN General Assembly’s meetings in its 66th session in New York, in a delegation to be led by President Jalal Talabani, to be accompanied by Foreign Minister Hoshiar Zibary,” Abbawi told Aswat al-Iraq news agency. He said that President Talabani would deliver a speech in the meeting, to cover the achievements and missions facing the political process in Iraq and its foreign relations, adding that “Iraq shall call on the world for further solidarity with it in the economic development, respect of borders and sovereignty, as well as supporting its efforts to be exempted from Article 7.” The UN’s General Assembly holds a session in September every year, attended by all its 192 member-states of the World Organization, with each state delivering its speech in the session, in order to raise its recommendations to the other UN bodies, each according its specialization, such as the Security Council and the International Court of Justice, etc. SKH (TI)/SR http://en.aswataliraq.info/Default1.aspx?page=article_page&id=144886&l=1 well lets hope they are able to let kuwaits port issue go and build there own port fao as from last weeks articles it looked like it could be a trade off for chapter 7 and im all about that lol...have a great day...BL
    12 points
  4. There were a couple off topic posts that took nasty turns in the last few days. We are all stressed out waiting for whatever is going to happen, happen, just to put an end to this crazy ride, one way or another. Most of us that are lucky enough to still be working are earning less than we did just a few short years ago. One of my friends sent this to me. For sure, the path that our life is forced to take is not always the way we planned or dreamed. THREE TREES Once there were three trees on a hill in the woods. They were discussing their hopes and dreams when the first tree said, 'Someday I hope to be a treasure chest. I could be filled with gold, silver and precious gems. I could be decorated with intricate carving and everyone would see the beauty.' Then the second tree said, 'Someday I will be a mighty ship. I will take Kings and queens across the waters and sail to the corners of the world. Everyone will feel safe in me because of the strength of my hull.' Finally the third tree said, 'I want to grow to be the tallest and straightest Tree in the forest. People will see me on top of the hill and look up to my branches, and think of the heavens and God and how close to them I am reaching. I will be the greatest tree of all time and people will always remember me.' After a few years of praying that their dreams would come true, a group of woodsmen came upon the trees. When one came to the first tree he said, 'This looks like a strong tree, I think I should be able to sell the wood to a carpenter, 'and he began cutting it down. The tree was happy, because he knew that the carpenter would make him into a treasure chest. At the second tree the woodsman said, 'This looks like a strong tree. I should be able to sell it to the shipyard.' The second tree was happy Because he knew he was on his way to becoming a mighty ship. When the woodsmen came upon the third tree, the tree was frightened because he knew that if they cut him down his dreams would not come true. One of the woodsmen said, 'I don't need anything special from my tree, I'll take this one,' and he cut it down. When the first tree arrived at the carpenters, he was made into a feed box for animals. He was then placed in a barn and filled with hay. This was not at all what he had prayed for. The second tree was cut and made into a small fishing boat. His dreams of being a mighty ship and carrying kings had come to an end. The third tree was cut into large pieces, and left alone in the dark. The years went by, and the trees forgot about their dreams. Then one day, a man and woman came to the barn. She gave birth and they placed the baby in the hay in the feed box that was made from the first tree. The man wished that he could have made a crib for the baby, but this manger would have to do. The tree could feel the importance of this event and knew that it had held the greatest treasure of all time. Years later, a group of men got in the fishing boat made from the second tree. One of them was tired and went to sleep. While they were out on the water, a great storm arose and the tree didn't think it was strong enough to keep the men safe. The men woke the sleeping man, and He stood and said 'Peace' and the storm stopped. At this time, the tree knew that it had carried the King of Kings in its boat. Finally, someone came and got the third tree. It was carried through the streets as the people mocked the man who was carrying it. When they came to a stop, the man was nailed to the tree and raised in the air to die at the top of a hill. When Sunday came, the tree came to realize that it was strong enough to stand at the top of the hill and be as close to God as was possible, because Jesus had been crucified on it. The moral of this story is that when things don't seem to be going your way, always know that God has a plan for you. If you place your trust in Him, God will give you great gifts. Each of the trees got what they wanted, just not in the way they had imagined. We don't always know what God's plans are for us. We just know that His Ways are not our ways, but His ways are always best. May your day be blessed. And until we meet again, may God cradle you in the palm of His hand.
    12 points
  5. So let's see here... If someone cares about their country and thinks Obama might be an illegal President, they are a Tea Party member. If someone just doesn't like Obama because the country is going into the toilet, they are called a racist. If someone wants change and supports Ron Paul and the Constitution, they are called a terrorist. My question for you is....what do we call someone with your attitude?
    12 points
  6. NIGHTLITE Why are you here? Why do you hang around this website and keep parroting the same blues? Don't you know we hear your opinion? "It's going to LOP " you stated about a thousand times. You won't make a profit, so why waste your time here? (according to your theory) The only thing that makes sense is you are here only to cast doubt, discouragement and shame...not a great use of your time, is it? Go away.
    10 points
  7. Regardless of what is posted.. The truth is There is more proof of Obama being a Fake then being Legit.. Everyone has to except that fact.. Fema camps, ration cards are the way of the future. Unless we change and wake up from this matrix or Alice in wonderland story we have all been lead to believe that is truth.. We're losing water, fossil fuels, the threat of nuclear attacks, and advanced technologies that we leave us to be decimated. The current faction as we know it have communist American hating monger 's in office we aren't safe.. This is the coffee everyone needs to be waking up to smell.
    9 points
  8. did you read the article? it says 58 trillion in dinar...stein optical buy one get one free! lose value? on a rv'ed dinar, thats called profit. how will they pay? with the rv'ed dinar i already went over that. if there is any other help you need, just keep posting, i can then shake my head in disbelief, and then i will shred whatever your pointless incorrect info is. you have dinar? if you do you would understand i am trying to help........your welcome really? use your head, follow along......when it rv's there money rv's as well and it makes the dinar worth more, then it gets converted into wealth, then they take what is owed out, and whats left after the payouts is considered profit in this situation......not really that hard to understand. guru lie, buddy i forgot more about the dinar than you know. what have you been on here 13 days? thanks for sharing your knowledge, lol
    9 points
  9. Thanks for evening me out. As you know, I don't really like this outcome. Like you and everyone else, I think it stinks. And, while I can see the logic behind it, I also see the distrust and confusion it is bringing. Sometimes we know what we should do, and end up doing what we have to do; usually two different things entirely. Take a drink and loosen up. But don't throw in the towel. I haven't. It does look a little bleak, but it ain't over till it's over. No need to filter the entire bottle yet... I am here because I own dinar, and add something to the discussion. If you are so threatened by that, take your own advice. I know what the possibilities are, and can face reality. I also know there is still a very real profit potential, but not what everyone was promised. If you can't live with anything less than being a millionaire, write a will and get your affairs in order. I prefer to ride it out until the end; knowing what the possibilities are. Why are you here? Have you ever taken part in a discussion here other than to disparage others?
    9 points
  10. Video: Wayne Madsen: Obama's Confirmed Indonesian Citizenship and Bogus Social Security Number - 9/15/11 - VIDEO HERE Last Of A Dying Breed: Investigators Wayne Madsen and Robert S. Finnegan at Obama statue in the courtyard of the public school he attended as an INDONESIAN CITIZEN. It was illegal for ANY foreigner at that time to attend ANY public school, and Madsen now has the Indonesian Law Statues to prove it, along with the documentation to prove Obama's attendance. So just exactly what WAS Obama's citizenship when he attended school here? MORE HERE: http://www.freepeoples5thestate.com/2011/08/living-dangerously-in-jakarta.html http://tinyurl.com/3uj2dea
    8 points
  11. If I Am Translating This Correctly (And I Believe I Am)... They Are Now Saying That The Dinar Currently In Circulation (Yes The Ones We Have) Will Change In Value As Well Once The Revaluation Takes Place... Deputy Governor of Central Bank of Iraq the appearance of Mohammed Saleh, said that the current categories of currency not fit with the current economic situation and future developments in the present and the future of the Iraqi economy. Saleh said in a statement today it received ( and the Iraqi News Agency Information / INA ) said: In the lightof economic conditions and volatile financial pressure and monetary inflation that has befallen our country before, and led to negative effects on the regularity of the commercial market and the labor markets and production and living standards of citizens, it has generated distortions Many structures, economic relations, among which was the Activity block cash many zeros of little value and in a manner not commensurate with the future developments in the present and the future of the Iraqi economy, which requires a solution to these conditions and offal, and these solutions reform the management of currency cash through the structure and the deletion of zeros to control the flow and management of the monetary cost of the cluster optimally. He added that the trading bloc cash exporting more than 30 trillion Iraqi dinars to the various groups and reflected by the number of securities traded $ 4 trillion paper money is the product of a long period of inflation and economic decline, rising, for example, the index of consumer prices Bassas 1993 from 100 to 200,000 in the midst of 2003, which means that the item that was sold for 100 dinars became sold for 200,000 dinars … And so on. Under such circumstances, the deterioration of the value of the coin currency rose greater than 25 dinars to 25,000 dinars, which means that inflation is added, these zeros *. He stressed: that the denomination of the current fit with the current economic situation and the next. For example, and before the outbreak of the Iran-Iraq war was a category of 25 dinars equivalent to $ 75 purchasing power of the time or the equivalent in the present 300 thousand dinars. I said inflation in the country over three decades of zeros to the currency, although this did not raise those zeros of the purchasing power of the largest category of the coin is 25 thousand dinars, which is equal to today’s $ 21. We need today to restructure the currency. Valasfar mean large cluster of large cash in circulation today of about 30 trillion dinars, which requested the circulation of cash directly and significantly to the cost of sorting and counting and it takes time and spatial properties and security. In the price system, is the price is expressed in exchange value and thus the structure of costs and payments of salaries and the Cubs and eventually become Akiem all transactions not commensurate with the needs of the country into a cash management system consistent with the restructuring of the real sector and price levels reached. The country needs a monetary system is easy to handle small groups and large reflect the real cost of thatstructure. The Deputy Governor of Central Bank: Maalmana especially as inflation means rising prices of his own money,money priceOn goods and services (ie, how much money we need in exchange for package of goods andservices .. the more increase the amount of money allocated in exchange for the package itself means that there is inflation or a rise in the price of money). Note that the value of money is inversely proportional with the price of money, especially if Maalmana that price is the value of goods and services expressed in cash. Since the money is anything agreed upon the community to become a medium of exchange and store of value and unit of account, the money (legal) issued by the Monetary Authority under the law and with the strength of the discharge of the receivables and is seen as a social institution Social Institution Increase the efficiency of the economy and its economic efficiency in moving the exchange of such money or social institution, and vice versa. And ended in favor of his statement by saying: I have led inflation continued to rise in number currency from 23 billion dinars in 1991 to about 30 trillion dinars at the present time, high largest category of currency from 25 dinars to 25,000 dinars, over time, thus making inflation, new figures for the currency in circulation add three zeros, which increased the nominal amount of cash operations and arranged the production costs of large quantities of them were accompanied by operations, storage, and distribution of the promise and the counting and auditing standards and the accompanying double, helped the growing operational risk associatedOperational Risk In the light of stability. http://************.com/2011/09/17/deputy-governor-of-cbi-existing-currency-categories-to-fit-with-the-current-economic-situation-and-future-in-iraq/
    8 points
  12. Kaperoni's Chat Friday 9/16/2011 @ 4pm CST from DAt Forum [kaperoni] Let’s get started. [kaperoni] First, I want to go back and set some timelines…. [kaperoni] Here are some key dates and events [kaperoni] 3rd Conference of Ambassadors July 17th-24th teaching them and giving them a presentation on the delete 3 zeros for explanation at their respective states. [kaperoni] Tuesday, 16/8/2011 - Central Bank Governor; Shabibi, with Mr. Haider Abadi, the Finance Committee of the Council of Representatives, where they discussed what could be called the "touches on the final project," [kaperoni] Now, lets see how that relates.. [kaperoni] Now, on the CBI website they have their Laws and Regulations posted. If you click on Laws, and go to page 10, you will see this paragraph. [kaperoni] "4. If the CBI proposes to issue a regulation pursuant to this Law, it shall publish a draft of the proposed text of the regulation in a form and in a manner determined by it to be best calculated to bring the proposed regulation to the attention of the domestic financial sector and the general public. The draft shall be accompanied by an explanation of the purpose of the proposed regulation and a request for comments within a specified time of not less than one month after the date of publication of the draft. The CBI shall have regard to any comment received and issue the final text of the regulation accompanied by an account in general terms of the comments. The procedure set out in this paragraph shall not apply if the CBI determines that the delay involved would be a serious threat to the interests of the financial system or hinder the effective conduct of monetary policy, provided that such decision by the CBI shall be explained in the preamble to the regulation." [kaperoni] Now, just last weekend we got this quote from an article titled… [kaperoni] “Representatives discuss deleting zeros currency on Sunday - Sept 10th” [kaperoni] And a quote.. [kaperoni] "The head of the economy and investment representative Ahmed al-Alwani, had announced earlier in the interview with "Twilight News" that his committee will be discussed with a number of consultants and specialists of the project submitted by the Central Bank, which provides for deletion of zeros from the current currency.” [kaperoni] Then we heard on Monday from Deputy Central Bank Governor Mohamed Saleh in this article… The Central Bank of Iraq latraga on deleting zeros 2011-09-13 [kaperoni] "Delay draft deleted three zeros from the currency of Iraq very wrong and we must accelerate the process of deleting zeros for the advancement of economic reality." [kaperoni] Then we saw on Tuesday this article and quote… [kaperoni] Iraq .. Custody of the Economic Commission for new dinar - September 13, 2011 [kaperoni] “Economic Committee in the Iraqi parliament lifted its reservation on the project three zeros from Iraqi dinar,” [kaperoni] this is getting good. [kaperoni] Now, just a few days ago we heard from the CBI… [kaperoni] Restructuring of the Iraqi currency: the project to delete the three zeroes and the cost of cash transactions Wed, 15/09/2011 [kaperoni] “The appearance of Mohammed Qasim” [kaperoni] “Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq” [kaperoni] “In light of economic conditions and volatile financial pressure and monetary inflation that has befallen our country before, and led to negative effects on the regularity of the commercial market and the labor markets and production and living standards of citizens, it has generated distortions many structures, economic relations, among which was the Activity block cash many zeros of little value and way that is not commensurate with the future developments in the present and the future of the Iraqi economy, which requires a solution to these conditions and offal, and these solutions reform the management of currency cash through the structure and the deletion of zeros to control the flow and management of the cost of the cash block optimally.” [kaperoni] And we see this quote also confirming the need to do this now… [kaperoni] “We need today to restructure the currency.” [kaperoni] And... [kaperoni] “The country needs a monetary system is easy to handle small groups and large reflect the real cost of that structure.” [kaperoni] And this one…last one...lol [kaperoni] “So Has prepared the Iraqi Central Bank strategic long-term viable future, when the availability of the appropriate opportunity and gradually according to clear instructions and regulations, guidelines provide protection of the rights and interests to suit the stage of prosperity ahead, “ [kaperoni] Ok…so we know the CBI is ready. [kaperoni] We know that the CBI has followed the Laws to implement this to the letter…and we see that the law states 30 days notice. [kaperoni] I showed you that above [kaperoni] Now, that 30 days could have started with the presentation on 8/16/2011, or it could have started on 9/14/2011. [kaperoni] When Parliament gave Shabs full support [kaperoni] In any case, we know the following… [kaperoni] The people are unemployed and frustrated [kaperoni] There are high levels of poverty [kaperoni] Investment is in essence on hold [kaperoni] The budgets are growing and a portion of those budgets would benefit with a better exchange rate [kaperoni] The banking sector desperately needs an international currency [kaperoni] Iraq needs a new currency that is less arithmetic with numbers that are less numerous on the level of the accounts of the federal budget, budgets of banks and companies [kaperoni] They need to reverse the trend of negative effects on the regularity of the commercial market and the labor markets and production and living standards of citizens [kaperoni] And they need to lower inflation, which is reaching dangerous levels in regard to this policy - 7.68% for Aug. [kaperoni] Therefore, we can conclude that the CBI will do this within the next 30 days. [kaperoni] IMO, this could be as soon as this weekend (if the 30 day window started 8/16) [kaperoni] or it might go out as far as Oct 15th if the window started on 9/14. [kaperoni] I tend to think, based on the recent article attempting to create a negative effect on the CBI’s efforts, we are closer to this than later. [kaperoni] Now, I need to put this in perspective [kaperoni] There are many that still don’t feel that this can happen, that the currency will not be honored at face value at the new exchange rate. They are believers of the LOP theory. [kaperoni] Lets that a brief look at Turkey as an example… [kaperoni] First, a LOP, as some call it, would be an abandonment of the current economic monetary policy. They would be saying, in essence, that the current policy has failed and we have no choice but to start over sort of speak. [kaperoni] That type of action has several side effects. First it would be saying to Shabibi, who has spent 7 years controlling inflation and lowering it to 3% (last Oct) and managing a stable exchange rate for over a year, that your efforts were not successful. [kaperoni] Telling one of the best economists in the world that..Dr. Shabibi [kaperoni] That is not going to happen and is factually an incorrect assessment of his work. In fact, Shabibi himself has stated numerous times… “there was a lot for Iraq to learn from Turkey.” And “a time so that the entire market does not have to shut down during the transition period” [kaperoni] You see, he is stating that good economic policies prevents such an event, and would have to occur in a LOP situation (complete shutdown and replacement). He is not going to do that. He is going to do a gradual substitution of notes. [kaperoni] Large 3 zeros out and small bills in. [kaperoni] It also states to the world that such action would cause a loss of IMF assistance, and a danger of them losing guarantees on credit and major foreign creditors to further finance reconstruction. [kaperoni] Again, another reason this will not happen. [kaperoni] Any such event would be a new currency and a SWIFT code change would be required…and that make no sense when they just a few months ago were recognized with the New Iraq Dinar (NID). Iraq is not introducing a new currency, just new lower denominations. [kaperoni] As well, we can look at numbers [kaperoni] At the time of the event, inflation was 40%, and the Turkish Lira was 1,800,000 to $1 USD. 1,000 times greater than currently in Iraq. [kaperoni] All of these conditions do not exist in Iraq. [kaperoni] Their policies are sound, their relationship with the IMF is under the frequent review (Standby Agreements), and World Bank, Paris Club have benchmark achievement goals for Iraq under the signed agreements that are frequently reviewed. [kaperoni] Done
    8 points
  13. The Truth About Libya -- Not Shown On Your TV Failing to depose Gadhafi after months of bombardment and brazen assassination attempts, NATO propaganda machine upped its campaign of calumny against the Libyan leader accusing him of atrocities which Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and other reputable human rights watchdogs can find no evidence of. That did not stop NATO from sending its ICC attack dog, Luis Moreno Ocampo to indict the Libyan leader for war crimes and issue an international arrest warrant. The North African country has Africa's largest crude oil reserve. It's therefore no surprise that Western powers which unconvincingly claim to be "protecting civilians", are colluding with genocidal Arab supremacists to grab Libya's oil. Unfortunately neither Russia nor China wised up to the West's deception of masking their true agenda in Libya with lies about "protecting civilians", otherwise they would have vetoed UN resolution 1973 which ostensibly authorized NATO's intervention. Not that a Russian or Chinese veto would have made much difference, as Sarkozy et al had already concluded plans to topple Gadhafi, with or without UN mandate. France has also admitted arming the Libyan rebels in direct contravention of the UN resolution 1973. In a similar vein, America invaded Iraq without UN authorization to among other objectives establish Iraq as a beacon of democracy in the Middle East. We can all see how Iraq's democracy is flourishing with violent Jihadists running amok, Sunnis and Shiite bombing each other's mosques and neighborhoods. More than half of Iraq's 700,000 Christians have been killed or chased out of the country as their churches are bombed and many were severally attacked by Islamists in supposedly democratic Iraq. This was a secular country under Saddam in which women were not obliged to wear Hijab, and Christians thrived unmolested with one of them - Tariq Aziz - rising to become Saddam's deputy. So much for establishing democracy in Arabia. More recently in post-Mubarak Egypt, the Tantawi-led junta has been hobnobbing with the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood which has pledged to fully implement Sharia, while attacks on Coptic Christians continue. Even in better-enlightened "moderate" Tunisia where the Arab uprising started, there has been an upsurge in radical Islam. There's a reason secular/quasi-secular dictators like Mubarak, Gaddafi, Ben Ali, Assad etc abound in the Arab world. They are the only ones who can keep Islamists at bay. Hold an election, and a totalitarian Islamist group like Hamas (Gaza), Al-Wefaq (Bahrain) or FIS (Algeria), which cannot be trusted to sustain meaningful democracy will seize power, as Muslim Arabs have no inkling what democracy is all about. Hence a Zogby/University of Maryland poll conducted last year found that 84% of Egyptians endorse death penalty for Muslims who leave Islam. It is therefore baffling that the West is again making the same mistake of naively supporting Libyan rebels to establish "democracy," despite intelligence and news reports severally linking these rebels with Al-Qaeda. Perhaps even more telling is the fact that there have been no Islamist terrorist attacks or threats thereof against NATO for bombing Libya, as there have been against US troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. On the contrary, Al-Qaeda is in support of deposing Gadhafi. Something is terribly amiss when Al-Qaeda and America are on the same side. In accordance with the Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya (deception), Libyan Islamists have now assumed low profile until the clueless NATO dethrones Gaddafi. If Islamists are then prevented from taking over, they will make Libya hell for the few true secular leaders. Just ask neighboring Algeria what happened after FIS, the Islamist party won election but was denied power...some 150,000 Algerians lost their lives in the ensuing conflict. Add to Libya's brewing jihadist cauldron, resurgence of primordial rivalries among her contending tribal clans - post-Gadhafi Libya might end up like post-Saddam Iraq, or even worse - Somalia. This is particularly so as reports from towns the Libyan rebels conquered indicate they are an undisciplined bunch of rampaging thugs - hardly the sort of people that can build democracy. Consequently many of the supposedly liberated residents of Qawalish fled after rebels recently took over. Thus contrary to the popular corporate media narrative, the so-called Arab awakening isn't really about freedom or democracy, it's primarily about economics. If the uprisings were really about freedom & democracy, the Saudi monarchy (obedient to the West) which runs the most repressive Arab tyranny would be the first to go. MUST WATCH Credits for the music: Memory Lane by Netsky Memory Lane vs Happiness Happening from Mash Up Mix 2010 by The Cut Up Boys Some of what I have found out about Libya & Muammar Al Qaddafi since the brutal, illegal invasion of Libya by Rothschild owned NATO forces. Not only have I learnt that Qaddafi is NOT a dictator (he stood down after setting up direct democracy) but his people have something to teach us about freedom & independence! I ask all reading this to do whatever they can to oppose the New World Order, NATO, the UN & our corrupt politicians. Please read Qaddafi's Green Book. Download link: http://911-truth.net/other-books/Muammar-Qaddafi-Green-Book-Eng.pdf The draft UN report on human rights in Libya before the NATO bombings & invasion. http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/16session/A-HRC-16-15.pdf Library Of Congress Country Study Of Libya http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+ly0067) http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+ly0069) Sherrie's blogspot. http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2011/08/truth-about-libya-watch-thi... Article by David Rothscum. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27956.htm Landdestroyer is another great blog. http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/09/libyan-rebels-listed-by-us-state.html Gagnauga is an Icelandic blog. I have posted the translated link. Please follow. http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=is&u=http://gagnauga... Lizzie Phelan, Independent journalist http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/05-09-2011/118962-Free_Tripoli_do... http://www.voltairenet.org/Witnessing-the-Transition-to-fear Top 10 Myths In The War Against Libya http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/08/31/the-top-ten-myths-in-the-war-against-l... Another truth Blog. Please support them by following. http://newsfromatlantis.blogspot.com/2011/03/brit-ish-murder-of-freedom-in-li... Northwestnationalists blogspot. http://northwestnationalists.blogspot.com/2011/03/gaddafi-is-not-mad-or-dicta... The Ones Killing Civilians is NATO http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/06-09-2011/118973-killing_nato-0/ DJOsiris Blog http://djosiris.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2011-09-03T11%3A09%3A00-07%3A... The real reason for NATO attacking Libya Libyan Children Are Crying... NATO Crimes & Mass Media lies exposed Libyan Women speak about Gaddafi. Media Lies about Libya & Gaddafi. Gaddafi's speech to Libya & the World 1st July 2011 (1/2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0XsF03fNM4 Gaddafi's speech 1st July 2011 (2/2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEL76Ed0ne4 NATO leaders guilty under US code of providing material support to terrorists by Tony Cartalucci http://www.infowars.com/nato-leaders-guilty-under-us-code-of-providing-materi... Thank you to all people seeking the truth. ================================================================================================ Just something to think about, after all he was an allie of the West but refused to take part in an attack on Iran and wanted their own gold backed Dinar. Watch his speech at the UN or his July speech with 2 million Libyans and you will see how aware he is to the powers running the world and what they want to achieve. Only then will you see the lies and propaganda put out by the Main Stream Media while innocent women and children are being slaughtered by the thousands. Is he a perfect leader? I don't think any are, but what business is it of ours? Listen and you will hear the majority of his people don't think so.
    8 points
  14. Just read this, it is Sept. 17th in Iraq, and Sept 16th here in Los Angeles. Here is the link: Chapter 7 almost complete Iraq and Chapter 7, U.S. Strategic Framework Agreement ~ Iraq and Kurdistan Working on Obligations to Get Out From Under Chapter 7 17/09/2011 Presidencies of the three stresses the need for strengthening the relationship with Washington Within the strategic framework agreement BAGHDAD - morning While confirming President Jalal Talabani, the need to strengthen frameworks, strong friendship between Iraq and the United States, stressed Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki on the need for continued cooperation between the two countries in all areas within the strategic framework agreement. This came during a meeting in separately in Baghdad yesterday with Deputy U.S. Secretary of State William Burns. He said a presidential statement received «morning« copy that Talabani stressed during the meeting: »the importance of expanding relations between the parties and that the United States continues to support the new Iraq, especially that this step will be channeled in the interest of the two peoples and Riqehma. Continues ... With regard to developments in the political arena, said President of the Republic that he is pushing ahead with his efforts to provide a climate conducive and encouraging to soften the atmosphere down to the implementation of existing agreements between the political blocs and the development of the political process in the country, according to the statement. In the center of the last meeting , said the statement had been an exchange of views on the events and developments in the Middle East, as Talabani stressed the importance of it flows into the changes in the interest of the march of democracy and openness in the Middle East and its peoples yearning for freedom and democracy. For his part, Burns «the importance of the continuation of President Talabani in his special session with the political parties and encourage them to dialogue and communication for the development of joint action and national partnership that will support stability, progress and prosperity in Iraq », reiterated his country's commitment to supporting the Iraqis and their political process and their experience of democracy, the statement said. To that stressed Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki during a meeting with Burns, the need for continued cooperation between Iraq and the United States in all areas within the strategic framework agreement. A statement by Maliki's office received a «morning« copy of it: that Burns reiterated his country's support for the Iraqi government in all efforts to maintain Iraq's stability and prosperity, and build a genuine partnership in all areas, in addition to the subject of arming and training Iraqi forces, also presented a vision of his country about the current situation in the region. He said Maliki, according to the statement: «the need to meet the demands of the masses calling for the arbitration will of the people and the granting of freedoms and continue the dialogue in accordance with peaceful means«. For his part, search House Speaker Osama Najafi with Undersecretary of the Ministry of State for Political Affairs William Burns ways to develop bilateral relations. A statement by the Office of Najafi received a «morning» copy of it: »that the two sides discussed ways to develop bilateral relations in the fields of development and life and scientific«. He added: »The Forum touched on the themes relevant to the Iraqi issue and the issue of regional and whole region «. Also reviewed and Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari with Burns relations, Iraq - U.S. and the vision of Iraq to the latest developments and developments of Arab and regional issues. The Web site of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) had been in the meeting dealt with relations and Iraq's obligations towards the family International and complete the march out of the provisions of Chapter VII. The two sides affirmed their keenness to «achieve constructive partnership in the bilateral relations based on common interests. Alsabaah Paper
    8 points
  15. 7 points
  16. Old = 1200 Dinar = 1 Dollar New 1000 Fils = 1 Dinar New 200 Fils = $1.00 US ==> 200 Fils x 5 = 1000 Fils = 1 Dinar = $5.00 US -
    7 points
  17. i am not trying to be a cocky idiot, but we never had the number of dinar in reserves. it was never know iraq would never lop 58 trillion in dinar, that is the most obvious, apparent situation, so the loppers, who think they are smarter than everyone, are wrong, they would never lop. you guys have to understand, they will rd, after the dinar has worth, so all these articles are correct, they will rd, but only after the raise the value, and clear all the dinar off the streets, its pretty weasy to understand, the loppers are so overbearing, its hard to see reality..... sorry loppers....but its true
    7 points
  18. Why do you want to know how much Dinar everyone has? That's like asking people you work with, how much they are paid. -
    7 points
  19. Billions over Baghdad 09/15/2011 (Dinar Recaps Ed: This emailed to us from Dave. Not sure of the origins or validity of the claims stated.) For those doubting the validity of the upcoming revaluation of the Iraqi dinar, feel free to pass this on to them: The article below, Billions over Baghdad, written by John B. Taylor, under secretary of the Treasury from 2001 to 2005, and the author of “Global Financial Warriors”, is a concise explanation of the beginnings of the plan to devalue, print a new dinar currency, then revalue (RV) the Iraqi dinar. It was first conceived by Cheney & Greenspan, et al, and then put into action before the first shot was ever fired in the Iraqi War. It also gives credibility to GW Bush when he expressed many times as to how this war would pay for itself, namelyOIL. Iraqi oil at less than $33/barrel coming to the USA. The 3-5 trillion Iraqi dinar currently held by the US treasury will be returned to Iraq beginning 6 months from now in exchange for oil at the lower price. This, in part, is how Iraq will finance this revaluation. One barrel of oil will cost the US roughly 6 dinar currently held by the US Treasury. That barrel of oil actually costs Iraq from $1.00 to 4.00 to produce. This equates to approximately $.20 to $.50 per dinar (not the $4+ connected to the upcoming RV). Spread the costs of this exchange of dinar for oil out over several years or decades amidst the back and forth commerce of unprecedented proportions between the two countries, and it is clear that the actual costs of dinar for oil will hardly be felt at all. Iraq will gain so much from international trade and commerce following the rebuilding phase currently underway, that, from this alone, the sum total of the RV could be financed. This is not really hard to imagine when you understand that the FOREX market itself moves (circulates) over 4 trillion dollars worth of currency in a single day. International commerce trades much more than that in a day. The key here is "back and forth". The same money will be recycled many times in many ways, and from this, bills get paid. In 2003 the new Iraqi currency series was sent by ship, and also flown by twenty seven 747's, into Iraq right during the war. That new series is the very SAME dinar that we all presently hold awaiting its revaluation. Bottom line is this: The events in Iraq are part of a long standing plan. Now, over 2 million Americans hold an average of 1 million dinar. Every government in the world owns large amounts of dinar with the expectation of leveraging their countries into a lower state of debt. (Have you wondered why the papers have reported numerous "forgiveness of debt" deals being made at national levels lately?) Most of us, as average American citizens, are only involved in this investment because the election for a new Prime Minister of Iraq last March (2010) was inconclusive, resulting in a 9 month delay (to Dec 15th) to confirm Maliki as the PM. Tens of thousands got wind of this investment during that 9 months. This was followed by another five months to complete the technical infrastructure on the banking and FOREX sides, iron out the last minute back room deals, settle all Chapter 7 requirements, negotiate the payment of debts, and officially form the Iraqi government/cabinet with the final Security Minister being positioned and announced concurrently with the RV. On Feb 25th, 2011 the Iraqi Minister of Trade formally requested being granted permanent membership into the World Trade Organization as a fully fledged member, rather than as an observer member. Such an appointment can only be made if all Chapter 7 sanctions have been removed and their currency is tradable on the open market. (via Google Translator) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&prev=hp&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.aknews.com/ar/aknews/2/220831/ Word has spread 'round the globe, partly due to the diligent efforts of the dinar forums, which have complied vast amounts of research, data and first hand intel, in an effort to determine, and plan for, the two most important pieces of information associated to this grand event – "the rate" and "the date". 120+ countries will see changes in their currency values along with Iraq upon the initiation of this unprecedented event. Each nation's currency rate will ultimately (if not immediately) be based mostly on the nation's assets (precious metals, oil, gas, GDP, etc.). See the article in Business Line "Drifting Back to the Gold Standard" http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/columns/s-s-tarapore/article2032360.ece?homepage=true The revaluation of the Iraqi dinar is the beginning of the greatest wealth transfer in the history of modern man. The economic structures of the world are currently undergoing their most profound change in economic history. I anticipate that we will see the biggest economic boom the world has ever known taking shape over the next 50 years. We are all part of this history now being made! Now is the time to prepare the foundation for your future of abundance so you can devote yourself to the pursuit of your purpose and your passions. Be diligent, study, learn and prepare! May your brightest dreams become physical reality, xyz Below is the article that reveals just how the plan to RV the Iraqi dinar got started and who was behind its implementation: February 27, 2007 Op-Ed Contributor Billions Over BaghdadBy JOHN B. TAYLOR http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/opinion/27taylor.html Stanford, Calif. EARLIER this month, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform held a hearing that criticized the decision to ship American currency into Iraq just after Saddam Hussein’s government fell. As the committee’s chairman, Henry Waxman of California, put it in his opening statement, “Who in their right mind would send 360 tons of cash into a war zone?” His criticism attracted wide attention, feeding antiwar sentiment and even providing material for comedians. But a careful investigation of the facts behind the currency shipment paints a far different picture. The currency that was shipped into Iraq in the days after the fall of Saddam Hussein’s government was part of a successful financial operation that had been carefully planned months before the invasion. Its aims were to prevent a financial collapse in Iraq, put the financial system on a firm footing and pave the way for a new Iraqi currency. Contrary to the criticism that such currency shipments were ill advised or poorly monitored, this financial plan was carried out with precision and was a complete success. The plan, which had two stages, was designed to work for Iraq’s cash economy, in which checks or electronic funds transfers were virtually unknown and shipments of tons of cash were commonplace. In the first stage, the United States would pay Iraqi government employees and pensioners in American dollars. These were obtained from Saddam Hussein’s accounts in American banks, which were frozen after he attacked Kuwait in 1990 and amounted to about $1.7 billion. Since the dollar is a strong and reliable currency, paying in dollars would create financial stability until a new Iraqi governing body was established and could design a new currency. The second stage of the plan was to print a new Iraqi currency for which Iraqis could exchange their old dinars. The final details of the plan were reviewed in the White House Situation Room by President Bush and the National Security Council on March 12, 2003. I attended that meeting. Treasury Secretary John Snow opened the presentation with a series of slides. “As soon as control over the Iraqi government is established,” the first slide read, we plan to “use United States dollars to pay civil servants and pensioners. Later, depending on the situation on the ground, we would decide about the new currency.” Another slide indicated that we could ship $100 million in small denominations to Baghdad on one week’s notice. President Bush approved the plan with the understanding that we would review the options for a new Iraqi currency later, when we knew the situation on the ground. To carry out the first stage of the plan, President Bush issued an executive order on March 20, 2003, instructing United States banks to relinquish Mr. Hussein’s frozen dollars. From that money, 237.3 tons in $1, $5, $10 and $20 bills were sent to Iraq. During April, United States Treasury officials in Baghdad worked with the military and the Iraqi Finance Ministry officials — who had painstakingly kept the payroll records despite the looting of the ministry — to make sure the right people were paid. The Iraqis supplied extensive documentation of each recipient of a pension or paycheck. Treasury officials who watched over the payment process in Baghdad in those first few weeks reported a culture of good record keeping. On April 29, Jay Garner, the retired lieutenant general who headed the reconstruction effort in Iraq at the time, reported to Washington that the payments had lifted the mood of people in Baghdad during those first few confusing days. Even more important, a collapse of the financial system was avoided. This success paved the way for the second stage of the plan. In only a few months, 27 planeloads (in 747 jumbo jets) of new Iraqi currency were flown into Iraq from seven printing plants around the world. Armed convoys delivered the currency to 240 sites around the country. From there, it was distributed to 25 million Iraqis in exchange for their old dinars, which were then dyed, collected into trucks, shipped to incinerators and burned or simply buried. The new currency proved to be very popular. It provided a sound underpinning for the financial system and remains strong, appreciating against the dollar even in the past few months. Hence, the second part of the currency plan was also a success. The story of the currency plan is one of several that involved large sums of cash. For example, just before the war, Saddam Hussein stole $1 billion from the Iraqi central bank. American soldiers found that money in his palaces and shipped it to a base in Kuwait, where the United States Army’s 336th Finance Command kept it safe. To avoid any appearance of wrongdoing, American soldiers in Kuwait wore pocket-less shorts and T-shirts whenever they counted the money. Later, American forces used the found cash to build schools and hospitals, and to repair roads and bridges. Gen. David Petraeus has described these projects as more successful than the broader reconstruction effort. But that wasn’t the only source of dollars. Because the new Iraqi dinar was so popular, the central bank bought billions of United States dollars to keep it from appreciating too much. As a result, billions in cash accumulated in the vaults of the central bank. Later, with American help, the Iraqi central bank deposited these billions at the New York Federal Reserve Bank, where they could earn interest. Finally, when Iraq started to earn dollars selling oil, the United States transferred the cash revenue to the Finance Ministry, where it was used to finance government operations, including salaries and reconstruction. Many of these transfers occurred in 2004, long after the financial stabilization operation had concluded. Iraqi Finance Ministry officials had already demonstrated that they were serious about keeping the controls they had in place. The 360 tons mentioned by Henry Waxman includes these transfers as well as the 237.3 tons shipped in 2003 in the stabilization. One of the most successful and carefully planned operations of the war has been held up in this hearing for criticism and even ridicule. As these facts show, praise rather than ridicule is appropriate: praise for the brave experts in the United States Treasury who went to Iraq in April 2003 and established a working Finance Ministry and central bank, praise for the Iraqis in the Finance Ministry who carefully preserved payment records in the face of looting, praise for the American soldiers in the 336th Finance Command who safely kept found money, and yes, even praise for planning and follow-through back in the United States. John B. Taylor, under secretary of the Treasury from 2001 to 2005, is the author of “Global Financial Warriors.” People, this plan was not intended for us it was to be shut out of our lives so we couldn't even get in, thank you for those of you who were bold enough to make the masses aware of this investment, we all owe you our blessings and good favor in your future endeavors when this comes to a close!!
    6 points
  20. Found this article from The Financial Reader (londonfunds.com). It's dated january 30th of this year. I'll make it easy for you LOPsters, pay attention to the bold and underline. Iraqi Dinar revaluation is imminent, backed by a powerful Iraqi economy Posted on January 30th, 2011 by Jason Masters Iraq is expecting to undergo a interval of large financial growth supported by a rise in overseas investment in oil production and infrastructure. Iraq is a country populated by 30 million people with active and well educated workforce. Iraq is extremely enticing to overseas investors as foreigners can own Iraqi corporations outright, they’ve got a flat tax charge of 25% and also most significantly, they have the ability to repatriate earnings as they see fit. Despite the fact that President Barack Obama formally confirmed the end of US combat operations in Iraq, it may take some time before the country comes back to a being a peaceful and stable place. Meanwhile the country stays a risky nation. There is still political unrest and violence. Underlying this instability, Iraq is in fact a potential economic giant, and it’ll slowly but definitely return to after 30 years of flat or no development and unrest. Indicators of economic recovery began in 2009, when Iraq awarded 12 new oil production contracts to international oil production corporations. Iraq has the highest share of under exploited oil fields. Nearly all of Iraq’s oil fields are within the south of the nation in the Shia controlled area, the place there is relative stability. This is extremely optimistic for the overseas oil companies and for oil manufacturing as it will not be hampered by any political unrest or instability. Iraq has the fourth largest oil reserves on earth after Saudi Arabia, Venezuela and also Iran. Currently, its oil production is estimated at 2.5m barrels a day, which does not make them one of the largest oil producers within the world. All these new oil production contracts will be a considerable boost to the rocky financial system and also will in addition give a considerable stream of overseas investment into the country’s overlooked oil infrastructure. Oil manufacturing in Iraq is anticipated to rise to much more than 10 million barrels per day by 2020. By this date, it is estimated that Iraq would be 1 of the biggest oil suppliers, 2nd only to Saudi Arabia and Russia. If right now’s oil prices stayed steady, this could drastically enhance Iraq’s probable oil revenue. At this production fee they’ll anticipate revenues from oil to be $280 billion a yr, a huge rise from the present degree of $70 billion a year. Oil money from the growing oil manufacturing is underpinning the expansion in Iraq, as it is catching up to meet the pent-up need for homes and also better infrastructure. With political stability and proper management of this massive progress charge in Iraq, the country has the potential to be 1 of the richest within the area and also to be a large player on the global oil stage. On the rate of growth in oil production, Iraq’s GDP could quadruple per capita, as the increase in revenues from oil will convert Iraq from having a financial deficit to having expected financial reserves in excess of an estimated $350 billion. This would put Iraq on an equal footing with its close oil production neighbours like Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and UAE. It can after that now not need to have a loan from the International monetary fund to maintain its stability of payments. One of the largest factors affecting Iraq’s economic growth could be increasing its nationwide safety and also stability. Iraq’s economic development is prone to be influenced by domestic politics and also political instability. They’re anticipating a possible new oil regulation, that will imply that speculators will see changeable times in front because the legal and regulatory environment for the oil industry is absolutely changeable. Iraq will need to beat all these problems to ensure that it supplies the proper infrastructure like highways, electricity and also water to allow the foreign international investments to produce the improvement in oil production. The Iraqi Dinar and also Revaluation Iraq’s currency is the Iraqi Dinar and also is traded beneath the forex code as IQD. The Iraqi central bank announced in 2010 that they were planning to redenominate the Iqd, to make cash transactions easier. They intend to drop three zeros from the nominal value, but maintaining the actual value of the dinar the same. What this means is that the one thousand IQD (pre redenomination) and the 1 dinar (put up redenomination) would be valued as the same quantity in US dollars. Even though the announcement was made in December and was anticipated to happen by the end of 2010. There is nonetheless no indications of this going on and no extra announcements have been made by the central bank. The current rate of exchange between Iraqi dinar and also the USD is 1167 dinar to a dollar. There has been great fluctuations within the exchange rate of the Iqd, as speculators and investors have been shopping for dinars on the basis that there will be a revaluation in some unspecified time in the future within the near future. The New Iraqi Dinar (IQD) is just not yet traded on the open foreign exchange market however you may order Iraqi Dinar via a foreign alternate forex trader or from a banking institution. Many of them will purchase it back from you however the price may be at a discount. As the IQD isn’t being actively traded, there is not much liquidity in this currency. Foreign currency speculators have been expecting a revaluation of the Iqd for 7 years. The Iqd is expected to be revalued alongside the same foundation that the Kuwaiti dinar was revalued after the 1st Gulf War. At that point in time, the Kuwaiti Dinar fell from its pre conflict levels. When oil production restarted. The foreign currency regained all its original worth. Investors holding the Kuwaiti dinar on the time noticed profits of over 3000% on their investment. This higher anticipated profit has shaped very big expectations that on the revaluation of the Iraqi dinar and also many individuals are speculating that this shall be an asset with an extremely high profit. With the increase in GDP, fiscal stability within the improving Iraqi economy. Economic professionals predict to see the Iraqi dinar to be revalued to more efficiently value the underlying economy. This revaluation has been anticipated for a while, but can only happen when all the nation’s issues have been overcome. In the event you mean to invest within the Iraqi dinar, just keep in mind like some other trade, the worth can increase besides fall.
    6 points
  21. Please Tell Me that Bear Season has Started ....
    6 points
  22. Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona has constituted a special law enforcement posse to investigate allegations brought by members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party that the birth certificate Barack Obama released to the public April 27 might be a forgery, WND has learned. The posse, under the authority of Arpaio's office, will consist of two former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys, headed by Michael Zullo, a retired police detective originally from Bergen County, N.J. Autographed copies of Jerome Corsi's "Where’s the Birth Certificate?" are available only from the WND Superstore WND confirmed with Zullo and with Arpaio's office that the investigation into the Obama birth certificate has been sanctioned fully by Arpaio's office. The investigation, they said, will be conducted with "utmost diligence," and the investigators will be authorized to utilize subpoena power. Arpaio spokesman Lt. Justin Griffin told WND that Arpaio's posse will consist entirely of volunteers and will avoid incurring any cost to the taxpayers of Maricopa County. "I am very grateful that Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a sincere man of his word and a fearless, patriotic American," Brian Reilly, a spokesman for the Surprise Tea Party, told WND. The document in question, which has been described as a fraud by numerous analysts and experts in imaging, documents and computers: Reilly had less kind words for his representatives in Washington, D.C. "Congress should be ashamed," he said. "They didn't even have the backbone to uphold their constitutional oaths of office to initiate this investigation." Arpaio's move is unprecedented in that WND research can find no other instance in United States history in which a county sheriff's office has undertaken an investigation of a document pertaining to a sitting United States president. Arpaio's decision follows a meeting held in his office Aug. 17 with a group of Surprise Tea Party representatives, including Reilly. Four days later, the group presented a formal letter to Arpaio expressing concern that should Obama use a forged birth certificate to prove his eligibility for the 2012 presidential ballot in Arizona, the voting rights of the residents of Maricopa County could be irreparably compromised http://tinyurl.com/3ge88y9
    6 points
  23. this is probably, and i don't want to be disrespectful in any way, a load of horse****.
    6 points
  24. i am sure you are a great guy-gal, but i am done debating you, you are making no sense, i told you what was going to happen, i would think a thanks would in order, but instead you want to argue, and make no sense at all good luck
    6 points
  25. Haven't you realized your wrong yet, you took one statement of a 3 page article and it tells you re-denomination, you have to be kidding 95% of this article talks about revalue and nothing about re-denomination but restructuring, yu lopsters really don't pay attention to anything unless it fits your agenda, just like our helpless Prez!!
    6 points
  26. Do you know that the proper procedure for any country to remove itself from chapter 7 is to comply with the stipulations set by chapters 4 & 6 which Iraq had special provisions granted by chapter 4 to allow them leeway on the chapter 7 stipulations the final thing is they need to be an internationally recognized currency which as of Sept. 1, 2011 they are and they have to have a value reflective of their worth for their currency so basically we are waiting for them to revalue and then they accept the responsibility of a full chapter 8 member in good standing...the country itself does this on their own there is no vote they already had it accepting them providing they could complete the tasks to be able to accept their own responsibility! read the IMF chapter policies it explains it step by step and even states Iraq was granted special provisions to help them speed up the process. although the rest you pointed out I agree with!
    5 points
  27. 5 points
  28. Smartest think I've seen posted on here. If you will really sit back and think about it for a minute, a person that really, really knows their stuff is not going to be sitting on a forum arguing with everybody that will reply to them on whether it will RV or LOP. They are all want - to - be experts sitting at home or work trying to feel important. The true experts in currency and politics wouldn't waste their time. Not a second of it. So don't listen to any advice online. Except for this So Says.................DayTrader
    5 points
  29. http://mrctv.org/videos/carville-obama-time-panic Carville To Obama: Time To Panic Arch-liberall and longtime Democratic strategist James Carville says it's time for Obama to "panic" and "demand change" from the direction his administration is headed. Is Obama looking like a one-term President? Carville to Obama: "This is not working, not politically, not economically, not anything.." goes on, "..the hour is late and the need is great.." Best Regards..
    4 points
  30. THE GIRL FROM IPANEMA-ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM: AQUA DE BEBER-ASTRUD GILBERTO: TIME TO SAY GOODBYE: ANDREA BOCELLI AND SARAH BRIGHTMAN
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  31. The law concerning the CBI says that the CBI is independent of the government of Iraq, but that they should give a proposal to the parliament before making policy changes, allow 30 days for parliament to consider, and take seriously any comments that they get from the parliament. However if in the opinion of the CBI, notifying the parliament and then waiting the 30 days on a particular policy change would create an emergency, they have power to make any monetary policy that they believe is absolutely necessary - in other words they don't have to get permission for anything but they should give courtesy unless they think it's an emergency. If they told parliament that they were going to RV, the word WOULD leak out. How do you tell anything to 200+ people and expect it not to reach the public? Shabibi is one of the world's smartest economists. He may not be bound by the government of Iraq, but he knows that he must deal with the laws of economics - just like the laws of physics, you can break them but you had better be prepared to deal with the consequences. The CBI is privately owned; he does have bosses - just not Maliki, or Allawi, or others in the GOI - to which he must answer. So, he can RV whenever he and the people who own the CBI decide to - but he knows if they do so at the wrong time or in the wrong way, chaos might ensue - and even the mighty Rothschilds, with all of their great wealth - have some limit to their ability to exert control over millions of pissed-off people. The Erbil, HCL, Chapter 7, are all things that may not absolutely constrain Shabibi and the CBI owners from RVing - but logic tells us that they might be very wise to wait for these things to RV, and they probably will. Hope that helps.
    4 points
  32. There seems to be a consensus here that the IQD will do 'something' relatively soon. There's the issues of HCL, Ch. 7, GOI etc which have been talked about as having great importance or other trains of though indicate they are mere details. Whatever The CBI has been issuing statements lately in a furious fashion. The indications point to removing the 3 zeroes; for all intents and purposes a LOP. Whatever Most here seem to be in agreement that the Iraqi money supply is grossly inflated. Numbers range from 20-27 trillion in circulation. RV'ing that amount of currency at even 1:1 would make Iraq's money supply worth 20-27 trillion dollars. This is more than the USA has out on the street. It's pretty much unsustainable. Whatever Here's the caviot: The CBI has been buying dinars in exchange for USD's to the tune of $200 million (give or take) per auction. At 5 or even 4 days a week for the last 5 years...that's a hell of a lot of Dinars they would have removed from circulation, effectively drastically reducing the money supply (an in effect 'removing' the zeroes from the currency). Now there are documents showing their money supply out there, but we don't know how accurate it is and not sure if it accounts for notes being removed from circulation via the auctions. So wouldn't removing a bunch of notes out of circulation yield the same results as simply lopping 3 zeroes off the notes? Sure it would. The end result is the money supply has been shrunk. It is evident that the CBI will not be 100% accurate towards their intent. If they were to telegraph their punches, speculators would go wild and storm the market. As of late I have been soured by the way things have been slooooooowly creeping along and have developed a negative feeling towards this investment. After some common sense re-evaluating of the situation (above) has made me feel a little better. One thing for sure is that any opinion (lop or non-lop) is pure conjecture and only the good Doctor knows for sure how this thing will play out. It comes down to how one defines 'removal of zeroes' or 'renomination'. For all we really know, the RV process has been ongoing for years now in the form of redenominating the IQD via the auctions. THEN the RV. People are saying they will RD then RV. Hell, maybe the RD part has been going on right under our noses for years now. Maybe it's time for the RV part to occur. Just some thoughts.
    4 points
  33. I read voraciously and I am trying to become a novelist, but I am amazed at you people who can read this and make some sense of it. Maybe I just can not concentrate and wish some one could in 50 words or less explain why this is a positive article. I see the Cubs were mentioned. Is Iraq going to buy the Cubs. No, seriously, all these articles are just mind blowing, but I commend those of you who understand it. I'm a dummy. Probably will get a lot of agreements on this.
    4 points
  34. They aren't going to tell us what they are really doing! Either way, RD + RV or what we all would like to see, RV + RD, they aren't going to let it slip. They know thousands of major investors, and I don't mean currency speculators (us included), are waiting for the CBI, IMF and the World Bank to get all Iraq's ducks in a row. These investors will secure GOI, provincial and municipal government contracts to build billions and billions of dollars worth of much needed infrastructure. That's just the tip of the iceberg! Billion's and billions more will pour in to construct private sector oil, mining, agricultural, manufacturing, commercial and retail projects to name a few. Nobody, and I mean nobody is going to get a heads up prior to whatever shape their monetary reform will take. To do so would spook these investors chomping at the bit to turn ground in lucrative Iraq! Stability is key. They want world investors to believe in Iraq, not think that major speculators (not most of us), are going to eat Iraq alive before any real progress is made. That is why no one can make heads or tails out of all the conflicting reports coming out of Iraq's media. This is just the way they want it! To tell us directly their monetary plans, would in my opinion, set them up for complete failure at bringing a strong and wealthy Iraq back on the world stage as a major player! It can't be long now!
    4 points
  35. Central Bank: the new currency will be printed in three languages ​​by the Constitution The Central Bank of Iraq to the new currency that will be the deletion of zeros will be printed in three languages, Arabic, Kurdish, English, applied as indicated by the Constitution, pointing out that the old currency will be dispensed gradually. The central bank adviser said the appearance of Mohammed in a press statement on Saturday: that the new currency will be printed in three languages: Arabic, Kurdish and English, the real opportunity to apply what was referring to the Iraqi constitution, stressing that the old aunt will not be canceled immediately after issuance of the new, but will be gradually dispensed with. Saleh pointed out: there is no difference in the currency on the new rights at the exchange rate and the purchase, saying: When you want to buy dollars to (1200) dinars, we will buy and dinar (200) fils. He added that the project to delete the zeros approved by the Department of the Central Bank has been forwarded to the Council of Ministers and MPs, if approved by the government it will be worked by hand. The central bank adviser that the purpose of the project to delete the zeros of the three is to reduce the large numbers of objectionable transactions, which will reach trillions, and the blocks will be shortened without cash disparage and wealth or income, they are all be fixed. And that the project will be working gradually, and differs from the previous project, which began at the end of the year (2003) and continuing until the end (2004), and expected to take the project over a broader time frame and continues to years and thus we note that the old currency will gradually disappear.
    4 points
  36. Here's my take on the 12 day theory (set the 12 days of Christmas) 12 Pumpers Pumping 11 Buyers Jumping 10 Forums Humming 9 Callers Calling 8 Bankers Stalling 7 Confirmed Cashouts? 6 Rumors Stirring 5 More Days To Waaaaaaait 4 X is crashing 3 Clans a clashing 2 Leaders Bashing and a Shabibbi in a money tree.
    4 points
  37. Hmmmm , Ok true that , However since than a new thing has emerged , World , and I repeat World balancing (a monkey wrench) there is a missing number in World economics and currency balancing (all currencies will contribute) of the 4 (major) suspects (limits set) and the Economics with each of these, china won't do the 40% needed (more money more freedom = Democracy) , Something has to (thru world fit) establish status Quo . VND at 3 cents, MO. (Kuwait and china did small adjustments ) There is a missing number !! The power's of the world can infact milk that!!! IQD is not taking the full burden !! anthing above Kuwait is on the sholders of the rest of the world . Agreed it is 4 + but not for us (u and I) ! .86 IQD dosn't fit yet same, with cash, in time left to grow in Feds coffers , will change the world .. I still see missing number as start rate is "Petro dollar value" * (at present 1 USD) and the feds increase reserves as that hit's over 4.15 in time . For Iraq Buying at 1 dollar than selling (multiple times ) up to 4.15 , erases the zeros with Trillions in profit (no Lop) end the end Low denom's (I mean their penny will be close to our nickle) Anyway Just do the math , for me I don't sweat the small stuff . Just a missing number , and I am just a speculator . So all don't sweat the small stuff , Everything is small stuff . Try to find that place in you , that is amused by all this . Take a deeeeep breath wewwww Relax let the mud settle Keep your day job ,
    4 points
  38. Ok, Answer this: Mohammed has 100,000 Dinar in his Bank Account, and then you have Achmed who has 4, 25,000 Dinar Notes in his hand. When they RD, Moahammed is still going to have 100,000 Dinar in his Bank Account and Achmed is going to get screwed when he trades his notes in for 100 Dinar, because he doesn't have his Money in a Bank Account. I can guarantee you there will be revolution in the streets if that happens. *
    4 points
  39. 10% for the year they re-denominated after they did so it went down prior too it was floating between 38-45% and that is where it stabilized the spike was in 2001-2002 where it was in the 60% range, know the facts don't just spew your trash around and expect others to pick it up! yes when hyperinflation spikes it hits a peak and settles down some then they RD, dude I was stationed in Turkey and watched them first hand go through their process they had exchange rates of 1,800,000 : 1 USD where Iraq has 1170 : 1 and has held steady on inflation for 5 years at low rates they just now started climbing when other markets globally have started going crazy...I minored in economics in college as well and own a business and have worked in the auto finance industry I think I am capable of understanding, actually I when I was stationed in Turkey were you even able to drive? You compare Turkey all the time yet the numbers are so upside down from each other you are truly clueless and it shows! Go read the articles yourself to find your links I'm tired of messing with you, and doing all the homework for you, cause you can't prove Shabibi didn't say it so now we are square! Regardless, you can have fun finding it in the 40-50 CBI articles that have come out in the last 2-3 weeks
    4 points
  40. Yes we know inflation was bad back in the 90's and up to 2007 what you are not saying is it has been under control for 5 years and remained steady no other country in the world has ever done that they all re-denominated the instant their hyperinflation spiked in order to do what you just said like Turkey, but this far into this it would not help and would hurt only a little but still hurt the Iraqi economy to re-denominate. Dr. Shabibi is one smart man he's so smart he worked for the IMF and wrote a lot of the good IMF monetary policy restructuring their bad policy elements so I think he knows what he is doing...the best part is he is not a Muslim but a Christian and well guess what he reads the bible and he knows that it states Iraq (AKA ANCIENT BABYLON) would rebuild and become the financial power they once were the richest country in the world...even better he also stated a form of this first he said Iraq would be the strongest currency in the middle east and then he said not only the middle east but the world!! This will not occur with a re-denomination a revalue with a restructuring of the currency yes, another thing Dr. Shabibi said he was doing, also introducing a 100,000 dinar hmmm why if you are just going to re-denominate, well simple he is not going to re-denominate he is going to restructure put low denominations in the market place and bring back the large notes destroying some to strengthen over time raising the rate more, after a revalue! Well what would the other large notes like the 100k, 50k, 25k, 10k, and 5k be for you say? Another easy one, simplified transactions between banks and between countries on large transactions! Next well why so many notes in circulation another easy one, he is going to reduce it some as they come into the CBI but destroying them but also his goal as he stated is to become a reserve currency so when you are a reserve currency you must have a certain number of notes in circulation and are required more than most countries. considering he has well around 30 trillion now and most of the other wealthy countries of the middle east have 7-9 trillion with Kuwait having the strongest value at $3.63 : 1 KWD and only about 4 million people they have much more in circulation than they need Iraq has 30 trillion with 34 million people hmmm do the math who has a stronger currency and who has a higher inflation rate? Do you get it, you are in this investment for a reason and it is to become wealthy, there is a reason for it to do GOD'S bidding when you do become wealthy by spreading the word of Jesus and the Bible through Christianity or Judea! Be a Good Steward with your wealth so it lasts and many generations can benefit from your foresight, hope, and faith!! He or She's not an idiot just misinformed, I got it covered and there is many more to help with his education before he gets frustrated any longer, we are studied and here to help!
    4 points
  41. Your arrogant, condescending attitude is surpassed only by your ignorance on the subject. The only ship that has sailed is O's so-called presidency. Nobody spends millions to cover up who they are unless they have something to hide. I will believe the specialists before I'd listen to your opinion. The document is a fake, both of them. That will be proven and the only dead horse to beat is the Democrat party at large for foisting this phony on the American people. I have full faith that Obama is a fraud from beginning to end. Just go ahead and try to research his background. The truth paints a very obvious picture and a disturbing pattern. Only someone that want's to be deluded and believe lies buy this mans lies. Just sit back and listen for a change before you pass judgment on others. It is you that will most certainly be stuffing down the crow soon. It's your choice to believe what you want, but please be prepared to admit your wrong. You have zero facts to back up you arrogant proclamation, if so, PLEASE PLEASE BRING IT. You don't, you never will, because it's not there. He was born in Kenya and all the phony documents can't change reality. It will come out eventually. You need to get over Obama and find someone new to serve you some fresh Kool-aid of any flavor maybe. Tea is good. Kool-aid .. bad.. How much Dinar would you like to wager on this one. 100,000 Dinar says he is fake. Put you money where your mouth is, if you're so positive.
    4 points
  42. Well said, if rtrusty and others just "got over it" then there would be no hope. These types will be begging for help once the SHTF, but most of us will have already been prepared and ready.
    4 points
  43. To be honest, I have more than I need, but less than I want. That's exactly how much I have. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
    4 points
  44. i had to leave for 5 minutes.......i cant believe your still losing this fight, i would of thought pride would of set in, and you would be looking for a floatation device, because you were drowning.... good night everyone............ p.s hit the books tonight, and i will be back to shred anything you have at some point tomm.
    4 points
  45. man your definition and the Arabic cultural definition of removing 3 0's are 2 different things brotha, I hate to be the bearer of bad news for you on that, but when they talk about removing 3 0's they mean they are going to bring them back into the CBI and get them off the streets, by removing the 3 0's from circulation and pulling them into the bank vaults and destroying a large portion of they will still keep some to use for large purchases which the CBI even said, meaning when an Iraqi citizen goes and gets a loan for a 25,000 dinar car the bank they use to finance the loan will send a 25,000 dinar note to the dealerships bank to complete the transaction also to transmit large trade purchases why you say well the shipping and security costs of sending well lets say they have to pay China 100 million for building homes that's a lot to ship and secure now if they can constitute it with well 1,000 x 100,000 well they can ship that in a small briefcase with 1 or 2 armed guards rather than well a couple trucks and 8-10 guards you can do the math on that and realize it's a simple process and they did say they would come out with 100,000 dinar notes so why would you think they are going to completely delete the 3 0's they never did just to those outside of the banks like the citizens and investors, common sense states that is exactly what they will do with that line of reasoning, it's not rocket science and gooble-de-**** monetary policy which is the cause of the crisis we see in the US and the EU right now, we wouldn't be in this position if they had kept it simple like Shabibi has done with his reform of the CBI for the last 8 years!!
    4 points
  46. Iraq committed to UN obligations in order to find a way out of CH VII Posted: September 16, 2011 Iraq said on Thursday it was committed to carrying out its outstanding obligations in order to find a way out of the UN Charter’s seventh chapter, on financial boycott. The position was announced by Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, who received US Deputy Secretary of State William Burns at his office, according to an official Iraqi statement. The two sides discussed Iraq’s obligations towards the international community and its relations as a result, in addition to the need to continue its path towards a safe exit out of the UN sanctions. The two officials also discussed US-Iraqi relations, Iraq’s position on matters related to nearby regional developments and the need for a productive partnership in bilateral relations based on mutual interest. Burns had earlier met the Iraqi President, Jalal Talabani and Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki, during which discussions focused on Middle East political developments.[/b] http://bit.ly/qLCJS1[/b]
    4 points
  47. Dude, you are very disrespectful at times. Someone just congratulated you on a new child and then you turn around and tell someone else that they are as whiny as a pregnant female. I hope YOU grow up and stop being such a condescending antagonist! There are other guys like Dalite that belive just like you do and I have NEVER seen them say such immature things. I saw on another persons profile that both you and him got warned by the mods to cool it or he was gonna vote to have both of you kicked of permanently! It's not the message that you have that people don't like, it's the way you say it dude. I am sick of the tone in your posts. Lots of other people are too! I hope having a kid will mello you out. I hope you will treat your new family with more respect that you do the people here.
    4 points
  48. So how does that make the ISX report a scam?? Pretty bold claim with no proof to validate the "scam" alert. Who really cares if he pumps the ISX report?? If you feel the report has value , buy it. If you feel it has no value , dont buy it.
    4 points
  49. No, keepm, the reason people question you is why would you put out a bunch of negative posts about an investment that you believe will only net you a few thousand dollars at best. It does not make sense. It is your constant negative posting that has every one confused. If I invested in the dinar and then felt, this was going nowhere, I would move on and not be on the site hours a day. You know you are aggravating people and maybe that is your mission. Or, you are some great oracle who is trying to stop people from buying dinar. At this juncture, I think any new purchasers of dinar are foolish because this investment may never happen just because civil war may occur first. What I do not understand is why do you post? No, don't say you are watching out for your investment. If you can only make $5K on it, you would be lucky to come out with $5 an hour for the time you put in. I just think you get some sort of perverted pleaseure out of knowing that your posts, in general, make people feel bad. Nobody is making a decision about their investing because of you. Just another mystery of the dinar.
    4 points


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