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  1. [kaperoni] Many of you know I have a great friend who I met a few years ago. He is an Arabic translator and has many times interpreted the articles and links I have sent him. [kaperoni] His contribution to figuring out this information is simply invaluable. His insight has simply again been invaluable to us a team working to achieve the same goal. He has my full trust and I have tremendous respect for his dedication. [kaperoni] Thank you my friend the Arabic translator! [kaperoni] Now, in recent days there have been several articles out pertaining to the dinar. Articles that say, in essence, the preparations are done and they are ready to move ahead with the new currency of Iraq…the lower denominations. [kaperoni] Tonight, I will share the links to these articles and provide insight from my Iraqi translator friend. His translations often pick up information that the standard translator does not such as Google, Bing. etc. [kaperoni] Here is the first article.. [kaperoni] Central decides to restructure the Iraqi currency [kaperoni] http://www.microsofttran ··· 47913%2F [kaperoni] Here are my friend’s views… [kaperoni] “This article basically states that CBI intends to release a new currency, and that this plan was agreed upon with CBI in conjunction with the IMF as part of Iraq’s plan [kaperoni] for strategic long-term economic development and that the IMF would continue to support the Iraqi economy.” [kaperoni] Do you see what he said? [kaperoni] This is the plan for them to move forward as the IMF is their guidance. [kaperoni] “The article states that the new denominations will reach up to 100 Dinars. [kaperoni] This means that the highest bill that will be in circulation will be a 100 Dinar bill. [kaperoni] The rate must be realistic with that note being the largest. [kaperoni] There will be other smaller bills, but the article does not specify what they are going to be (if they will be 1, 5, 10, etc). They state that this will help with payments and purchases [kaperoni] and make those transactions easier for people and for government transactions, such as paying for war reparations. The article also states that this is a change in tune from what was said earlier in the year, when the GOI denied that there [kaperoni] would be any changes to the currency.” [kaperoni] Here is the next artricle… Advisor to the Central Bank’s “by the people”: “Structuring currency” includes lifting of the zeroes and the issuance of new categories [kaperoni] http://translate.googleu ··· 583%2B%2 [kaperoni] From my translator friend… [kaperoni] “This one also re-states what the previous articles have said and really discusses more of the reasons for the removal of the 3 zeros and the new lower denoms, which are the same [kaperoni] reasons that we talked about before, such as giving more purchasing power to a smaller amount of notes (instead of big bills with little purchasing power) and facilitating private and government transactions and reducing inflation and [kaperoni] strengthening the Iraqi economy, etc. “ [kaperoni] Now here is the last one…Pay close attention to this article….Maliki’s meeting of independent bodies [kaperoni] http://translate.google. ··· 66-.html [kaperoni] We are going to key in on the bottom paragraphs here, as these are statements from Shabibi himself the head of the CBI…. [kaperoni] “The bottom statement, the one from Shabibi, states that there will be an upcoming change with the Dinar within the next week to no more than 10 days. He says that there [kaperoni] will be lower denominations in the Dinar, and that he understands that people may be worried about how the new currency will work, but he says that there should be no reason for people to worry about it because it is all really simple mathematical calculations [kaperoni] and they will quickly learn and get the hang of it. The last part to the statement is not well worded, but from what I understand it is something along the lines of they [kaperoni] are waiting for a final vote (I assume he is talking about parliament or the council of ministers) and that all the people that were needed for the vote were not present, but they working to get it set up where everyone who needed to be [kaperoni] present for the vote would be so they could vote and complete the last step needed.” [kaperoni] Ok, we now have confirmation of the RV window! [kaperoni] More from my translator friend … [kaperoni] ” It truly sounds promising to me! As I have mentioned when we’ve talked previously, I wouldn’t be worried about the vote because CBI is independent and they have basically [kaperoni] made up their mind that they are going to RV and they have printed all of this money obviously if they plan to do it within 7-10 days, so I don’t think they would have gone through all this trouble if they knew that there was a chance that it could [kaperoni] be blocked or not approved. I truly believe the vote is just a “legal formality” and that CBI is going to get this done either way. “ [kaperoni] “And truly, 7-10 days is just around the corner, which would be the 30th to the beginning of July, and that is the date that we have been watching out for. “ [kaperoni] That is the end of this chat. I believe we now know the window of the RV, and it is in the month of June. [kaperoni] Kap
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  2. * Today, 11:15 AM RESPONSE FROM MILLIONDAY ON THIS ARTICLE FROM CHAT [millionday] A LOP IS A TOOL THAT IS USED TO DROP THREE ZEROS ECONOMICALLY FROM A COUNTRY`S INFLATION - [millionday] THEREFORE -- THE INFLATION HAS THREE ZEROS (MUST BE A 1000 OR ABOVE) [millionday] SIT ON HANDS NOW [millionday] THE CURRECNY HAS THREE ZEROS [millionday] THE PRICES HAVE THREE ZEROS [millionday] A LOP IS AN INFLATION TOOL [millionday] THE INFLATION IN IRAQ IS 6.6% THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY FOR THEM TO LOP [millionday] IF YOU DONT SIT ON YOUR HANDS -- YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE ME UPSET [millionday] THE LOP IS USED WHEN ALL THREE ECONOMIC INDICATORS ARE SHOWING THREE ZEROS [ millionday] THE INFLATION PERCENTAGE [millionday] THE PRICES [millionday] THE CURRENCY [millionday] IN THIS CASE THEY ARE NOT LOPPING [millionday] THE REASON THAT IT IS CONFUSING SOME -- THEY REFUSE TO READ [millionday] IF SOMEONE COMES IN HERE WITH THE COMMENT THAT IT IS GOING TO LOP -- KNOW THAT THEY ARE HERE FOR ONE OF THREE REASONS [millionday] 1) THEY ARE LOST [millionday] 2) THEY DONT READ AND HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ECONOMIC TOOLS [millionday] 3) THEY JUST DONT LIKE HAPPY PEOPLE [millionday] THEY CALLED THE CURRENCY "THE THREE ZERO CURRENCY" WHEN THE CHANGE WAS MADE IN IRAQ [millionday] THE CITIZENS ARE THE ONES THAT READ THEIR NEWS [millionday] THEIR NEWS IS WRITTEN FOR THE CITIZENS JUST AS OURS IS -- SO REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE ARE READING IT THEY ARE WRITING TO THEIR CITIZENS [millionday] THE PRICES IN THEIR COUNTRY WILL REFLECT THE NEW CURRECNY [millionday] IF YOU READ THEIR NEWS AS IF YOU WERE SITTING IN THEIR COUNTRY -- IT MAKES ALOT MORE SENSE -- [millionday] THE REPORTS OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY ARE NOT CONTRADICTING -- IT IS JUST MEANT FOR GLOBAL NEWS [millionday] UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE ARTICLE [millionday] ALSO -- REMEMBER THAT WHEN KUWAIT RVD -- THE WORLD WAS TOLD FOR A WEEK THAT THEIR CURRECNY WAS USELESS AND WE DID NOT HAVE INTERNET ACCESS AS WIDESPREAD AS IT IS NOW -- OR THE INVESTORS THAT WE HAVE NOW -- [millionday] DO NOT CONFUSE LOP WITH THE REVALUE OF THIS COUNTRY -- REMEMBER WHAT WE HAVE SAID AT PD AND TRUST US [millionday] 1) CURRENCY HAS THREE ZEROS [millionday] 2) INFLATION HAS IT TOO (ABOVE 1000) [millionday] 3) PRICES HAVE THREE ZEROS [millionday] ALL AT ONCE millionday] THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPECT PLEASE RETURN TO YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAMMING
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  3. Folks, I think it’s pretty obvious by now an attack has been launched against DV and we were all blind-sided by the speed with which it came. It appears most people are just feeding into it as a way of venting. This website and the majority of real people and mostly real and professional intel is the biggest threat to the other so-called dinar sites. It is clear where this attack came from and it’s purpose. I’m sure many, if not most, of you have noticed the sudden and somewhat organized assault coming from newbys. Anyone ever seen newbys with so much info before? I’m waiting.........................Of course not. Anyone can pick up an old computer at a garage sale for a couple bucks and hide behind a new ‘MAC address’ and remain anonymous. Doesn't take a genius. First it was Scooter in the crosshairs, then Keep, and now Adam has been put in question. OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE. Stevie Wonder could see this. Let’s get thing back together around here and start acting like the DV family once again and focus on the reason we’re all (well most of us) here.
    10 points
  4. Props man. My brother did 2 tours over there and he said you have to be over there fighting and see the things the soldiers see for the war to make sense. He backed Bush 100% after serving in Iraq and I will take his word over the backseat drivers that stay here in the US and just spout off things that they hear from the media.
    10 points
  5. I wrote this 2 days ago when the article below 1st came out. Before everything went to Heck and a Hand Grenade. It may no longer be valid but a couple of my friends told me to post it anyway. Its long but I think worth the read. Take care…drox. Friends... Have any of you considered this article below may mean something entirely different? I have said to watch for the articles containing 100,000 Dinar notes amongst the numerous 3 zero ones, for nearly a year. You see, Saleh likes to mix in the 3 zero articles in bunches and sends us all in a tizzy whenever he does, right? Saleh is the front man for the CBI. His job is to orchestrate the greatest marketing medium known to mankind on behalf of the CBI. No, no…not Multiple Level Marketing you Rudy fans. GOSSIP! Nothing travels at such velocity as gossip. That’s why his articles always start off with “the appearance of…”. He makes each article and event! You see, I believe they methodically use the 3 zero lop articles to set up the GOI and particularly Maliki into believing that a redenomination is what they (the CBI) want. Propositionally, I think they want something else. Plan B. By law, the CBI must present their proposal to the Council of Ministers and Parliament even though they are an independent and transparent body. It is my belief that the (CBI) wants to act disappointed that the GOI will refuse a redenomination and will choose a pre-conceived Plan B instead. AKA…the 2nd option. Could it be what Shabs wanted all along? A mis-direction? You see... they know Maliki is a greedy, conniving, control hungry, manipulating scoundrel that wants to keep his people poor, in fear, and needy so that he can be the dictator he dreams of being. The dictator handbook for dishonorable and wayward souls 1st chapter states: People follow power when they are most desperate. Shabs knows that Maliki wanted to take the CBI foreign currency reserves to pay for the budget deficits and some other costs. Maliki announced this publicly and Shabs said absolutely not to the Parliament and really to the world. He said the CBI is a transparent and independent body from the GOI. He said that if you need the money so bad then the GOI could effectively borrow from the private reserve accounts at the private banks. But Maliki wanted no part of that. He wanted to take money not borrow money. He wanted to put the currency even further behind the 8ball. Why would anyone want to do that if they intended to RV a currency? That would take away the vital support mechanism that props the currency up in the first place. The answer is Maliki has ZERO intentions of bringing wealth to his countrymen. Why else has he kept them in the dark (literally)? This is important. I have noticed numerous things Shabs does to get what he wants fully knowing how the BS politics will play themselves out. In some ways, Shabs runs the country through these end-around decisions. Maliki ends up being the dog on the leash. He thinks he has all the power out front but really Shabs is tugging on the leash showing him where to go. Part of my theory is that the best thing Iraq could do would be to NOT lop/RD even though that would probably make the most sense on the surface to the CBI. It would be the easiest fix to get rid of the ridiculous money supply and would make the currency credible and would ease the use of cash transactions. Problem is... I believe it limits their future currency exchange growth potential. Here's why: If it lops, it might someday grow to $3. Big whoop in the long haul, a 3times increase. Certainly helpful to Iraqi's and we could make a nice little 300% profit. But then what? As Iraq develops into the major economy of the Middle East and "The Hub", does the future exchange rate keep growing to $10, $20, etc over the years? Not likely... IMO. So... that leaves them with the problem right now of way too much money supply and a minuscule exchange rate that lacks POP. 1170iqd to $1 doesn't exactly scream out "Look at us World we are players now" does it? So...let’s find another way. If you haven't guessed, I do not believe that the "Ghost fils" exist at all. Ghost fils are the lower denominations rumored in existence. I also think that the notion of removing 3 zeros from the notes is a kind of a silly notion without a re-denomination attached to it. That is something gurus manifested to cover past erroneous predictions and to make sense of the barrage of 3 zero re-denomination articles over the years. It got carried forward to present day and has been repeated sooo much and sooo often that it is believed as truth. (Notice my so's had 3 zeros?) If you believe it... frankly I don't blame you. It is the only way to make sense of the crazy RV numbers people have led you to believe. I mean no disrespect to you by saying that, you may be right and we certainly all hope you are! I simply ask you to remove yourself from that mindset for a minute and consider a new possibility or paradigm. I believe this article below is saying they are considering the 100,000 notes. They are offering up an "off the cuff" plan B scenario for Maliki and the GOI so they have 2 options to present in front of them. Either Re-denomination or maintain the existing currency but add a 100,000 note to it to assist in day to day cash transactions. The GOI is in a budget cash crunch. Creating a whole new currency would be very expensive and confusing when the people are already poor and confused. They would have to develop a whole new currency with the Kurdish language on it as the constitution mandates. If they introduce the 100,000 notes, that will effectively tell us that they will not LOP and will kick that can down the road. That is what we all want right? No lop and the ability for the currency to go up. This will buy time for Maliki to eventually get booted out because of his obstruction and so that the GOI can finally kick start this economy and get some things done. Shabs has done his part. He has the banking industry improving daily. He has kept inflation down and is getting the banks to lend money. He is working on the money supply problem by increasing private bank reserves amongst other things. He has built up the CBI reserves magically. So…Plan B is the introduction of the 100,000 iqd notes. It would cancel or postpone a redenomination. It would ease cash transactions in the marketplace by helping the Iraqi carry less cash. It would be cheaper to introduce 1 denomination then all of them. It will buy the CBI time to find a way to decrease the money supply substantially. It will buy the GOI time to pass laws, improve security and infrastructure, and most importantly promote employment through a massive job creation focus. It will buy time to address corruption. All of these things are necessary for a more stable environment to support a significant increase to the exchange rate. All of the citizens must be able to participate in a RV and not just the top 1/3rd ot the population. Otherwise it will fail. Thus, I am not saying RV crazy anytime soon. I am laying out a road map that in time will allow this investment to move up considerably. The situation in Iraq must be able to support an RV. Important steps need to fall into place. My hope is they intend to get near the Saudi's. I believe that the HCL has everything to do with the release of a true RV. It is vital. The political sectarian divide isn't working. If you create a dividend system in Iraq for lets say 25% of the oil revenue. It will be distributed to regional and local governments and onto each citizen. This provides power to the people and a sense of ownership. It takes the enticement of power right out of the politician’s hands. This is the only way Iraq will have a government that works democratically in my opinion. A peaceful Iraq is an economic force to be reckoned with. When the people have a share in the wealth then those people will insure its success and growth. They will shun the detractor/corrupters because they have a vested share now. This will provide a huge credibility to Iraq internationally. The exchange rate will inevitably go up as foreign investment and foreign currencies pile into the country. In time I think the GCC will beg for Iraq to be a member and could be the nugget Shabs is looking at. That would save the expense of a redenomination wouldn’t it? In the meantime, Iraq and Saudi Arabia will become friendly competitors trying to best one another. Your investment in Dinar could turn into a true lucrative opportunity. Below is my take on the CBI restructuring of currency article. I edited it with strike throughs and my interpretation of my bridge words in parenthesis in red. Feel free to respectfully crush my theory now! In the meantime I will work on another post as to the why and how it needs to be this way. Be well. (drox) The Central Bank of Iraq, Wednesday, that he decided to restructure the local currency in order to develop(assist) the payment system in the country. The appearance of Mohammed Saleh told the Kurdish news agency (Rn) that "the Central Bank of Iraq has decided to start implementing a strategic and long-term specializes (plan) in the restructuring of the local currency for the development (assistance) of the payments system in Iraq." He added that "the central bank will raise the level of the local currency and the development of new currencies up approach to (to compete with) U.S. $ 100 ( Remember: $100 = 100,000iqd notes roughly), which would address the economic gap in the system of financial payments in the country." He continued that "the project to (of) restructuring of the local currency, which started gradually need(s) to (the) support (of) the government and parliament (so)that it will hold purchasing power compared Palmdjulat (to other) economy(ies)." He expressed (to) the IMF in August / August, his support of the Iraqi economy in the event of having a number of economic measures including the privatization of banks and raise three zeroes from the currency local and honoring debt and compensation is the responsibility of Iraq. The Iraqi government has denied conducting any change (to) in the local currency this year to reduce inflation. The local currency of Iraq has passed in the history of change(d)s to several (times), most recently in 2004 when the former Governing Council replace currency of the previous symbol of the former regime. The main tasks of the Iraqi Central Bank to maintain price stability and the implementation of monetary policy, including exchange rate policies, and management of reserves of foreign currency, and the issuance of currency management, as well as the organization of the banking sector.
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  6. And how does that help the economy and strengthen the currency against all the neighboring countries.....It doesn't, time to go back to school.
    9 points
  7. Did everyone read Adam Montana's chat from the other day. You would be advised to look it up and read it whether you are new to this site or not. For some time the foul mouth posters has been getting worst and i am glad to see Adam talking a stand against it. Its not just some of the new people it is some of the old as well and they will even admit that they rub people wrong, its their character. I'm not gonna call no names, you know who you are but hey so does the Mods and all of us. I am glad Adam has finally had enough and warned everyone about NEGATISM AND DISRESPECT. If your intenions is to be negative and or be disrespectful toward a fellow dinar member you better think again before you post. I am not one to get beside myself because of anothers foul mistakes but when it happens over and over again that shows me they are in need of someone to show them a different way or show them the door which ever comes first. This is his site he is the sole owner, and he just stated he is tired of DISRESPECT AND NEGATIVE BEHAVIOR and has put out the warning that he is done with it. So am i and many others. I appeal to all who is thinking about posting against another to think about it. We are a Dinar family here and the rebels have got to be dealt with. Now is the time to help the Mods clean up this site and make it a shinning example for all to see. Adam has never asked much from us only to read the rules governing this site and abide by them. Treat others with respect or keep your fingers off the keys.
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  8. [bondLady] ok here goes [bondLady] im gonna take u all back to jan 2011 [bondLady] when the imf 1st started tellin iraq to raise there reserves and raise there exchange rates [bondLady] the imf is very importantant to iraq [bondLady] to the world [bondLady] but because iraq is tryin to rebuild every thing not only its country but its economy and its currency [bondLady] imf gave loans to iraq [bondLady] and when u take a loan from the imf [bondLady] its like in a sense u just took a loan from the godfather [bondLady] the imf expects any 1 who takes money from th to follow there advice [bondLady] they cant make a country rv [bondLady] but they can advise them because they took imf money [bondLady] and if the country refuses to do what the godfather the imf says they want them to do or advises them to do [bondLady] they send the UN in which is basically the godfathers muscle [bondLady] no country wants to be on sanctions [bondLady] or be kept on sanctions [bondLady] so in jan 2011 the imf advised iraq to raise there exchange rates an to raise there reserves [bondLady] Board of Executive Directors at the IMF advised to raise the prices of exchange and the increase in foreign reserve Board of Executive Directors at the IMF advised to raise the prices of exchange and the increase in foreign reserve Sunday, January 9, 2011 Council discussed the Executive Directors of the Fund International Monetary ways to reduce the volatility of capital flows across borders, and enhance their role in supporting economic growth and stability and the protection of the financial system, but differing views and attitudes of the case without reaching an agreement that allows change the terms of agreement «Bretton Woods», who founded the IMF and World Bank international law, including allowing the establishment of an international legal framework to address the issues associated with the movement of so-called «hot money capital. Did not disclose the Board of Directors unveiled the nature of the differences, but only the reference in the statement that some managers indicated a willingness to discuss the amendment of the Agreement Constitution, [bondLady] while I felt the majority was that it was premature to begin discussions on the issue, before subjecting capital flows for further analysis, and study the practical experiences» Member States. According to the statement that «the managers (from what appears to be few enthusiastic to the question of establishing a legal framework), they noted that volatile capital flows have played a major role in the global financial crisis, both increase the vulnerabilities and shocks to be transmitted across the border, arguing that these flows are lacking governed by the international road map [bondLady] like the international rules governing trade in goods and services, as well as the international monetary arrangements. The Directors agreed on the need to strengthen the IMF's role in matters relating to capital flows, on the basis of the responsibility entrusted to him b «iPod» on the stability of the financial system. The decision to implement the plan of the Board of Governors, the highest authority in the Fund, adopted at its annual meeting in October (October) the past, and sentenced to «deepen» Role of IDA in the affairs of exchange rates and capital flows, which they considered of «vital to the functioning of the economy and the stability of the system Cash global ». Spokeswoman Monetary Fund Caroline Atkinson in a press conference, that the Fund is working on an extensive analysis of capital flows and their engines and the experiences of Member States, [bondLady] noting that a preliminary study presented by the Foundation to the meeting of Board of Directors, which included a package of measures which States, especially emerging economies, which have made it a revival of their economies and high yielding investment, compared with developed countries more attractive for foreign investments, applied to reduce the dangers of these flows. Among the key actions in the package reduce the risks available to emerging economies, the target levels of huge flows of capital seeking high returns, highlighted Atkinson increase reserves states of hard currencies, and allow their currencies to the national high exchange rates, in addition to procedures secondary aims to strengthen the capacity of financial sectors Banking and resistant to shocks, such as a precautionary measure, which resorted to Brazil last week, it ordered the banks to raise levels of reserves. And according to recent estimates by the institutions concerned with the affairs of the emerging economies, [bondLady] the private investment that flowed to emerging markets Chairperson last year, exceeded most forecasts as Nahzat 820 billion dollars, registering an increase Tnov 40 percent, compared to 2009. And are expected to maintain these capital flows, which are direct investments in stocks of productive projects about 40 percent of the total volume, to maintain the level if not a slight increase this year. The share of five emerging economies of the Arab president, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Morocco and Lebanon in 2010 about $ 60 billion, double the level recorded in 2009. Attracted oil and gas projects in Saudi Arabia and the UAE the bulk of direct investment, while financial markets regained some of the Arab, especially Egypt, the attractiveness of investments in shares. [bondLady] However, the Fund has published several reports which confirmed that the fight against the repercussions of the global economic recession through the programs of investment and government spending and support the capacity of financial and banking sectors to resist shocks, sapped the energy savings for many emerging economies. A report, foreign currency reserves of the fund, which he published last week, the emerging economies strengthen reserves resumed strongly in the second half of 2010, but at a slower pace than the previous year. In the first nine months of 2010, the balance of emerging economies rose by 7.8 percent to 5.9 trillion dollars [bondLady] while the reserve that used by States in the form of the Chairman of the financing of imports, rose 10 percent in the same period of 2009, to 5.17 trillion dollars. But the accumulation of reserves of hard currency is in itself a strong indication that the emerging economies, especially China, which is unique to about 45 percent of the balance of these economies (2.65 trillion U.S. dollars), is not enthusiastic about the item relating to raising the exchange rates of their national currencies of the package of measures which it deems Fund «appropriate» to combat the threat of capital flows. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ar|en&u=http://www.iraq4allnews.dk/ShowNews.php%3Fid%3D4315&prev=/translate_s%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3Dhttp://www.iraq4allnews.dk/%26sl%3Den%26tl%3Dar&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1 [bondLady] ok now im gonna bring in my chat from when i did this post from march 16th \ [bondLady] now [bondLady] this article from the imf [bondLady] isnt nameing iraqs name here but its the very only country it can be [bondLady] because it speaks of [bondLady] a emerging new economy [bondLady] infrastructure [bondLady] a new rate [bondLady] and increase ur reserves to suport the new rate [bondLady] iraq is the only 1 that fits all this it is iraq [bondLady] and right after this came out [bondLady] 24 hrs later [bondLady] iraq comes out and says [bondLady] hey we raised our reserves [bondLady] thus letting u an i know [bondLady] this article is about them [bondLady] as i already knew iraq was the only country rebuilding a country and a new emergeing economy at this time [bondLady] [bondLady] so they raised there reserves but not there exchange rate' [bondLady] so with in 48 hours after the cbi says this [bondLady] the imf sent there muscle in the UN [bondLady] and the un and the imf have been there ever since [bondLady] so then [bondLady] a week or so ago [bondLady] i showed yall a article that said the imf the cbi iraq an some other financial group all comes to an agreement [bondLady] now the imf is all about world economys and exchange rates [bondLady] so then a few days ago [bondLady] right after the imf an cbi comes to an agreement [bondLady] the us treasury comes out [bondLady] an passes new laws about brokers and cash ins of currencys [bondLady] remember ali and his no ledger to ledger [bondLady] the irs wants there do off of this [bondLady] when we cash in [bondLady] so they made an passed laws to be able to keep track and get there tax dollars from us [bondLady] so then the same time [bondLady] within 24 to 48 hrs after this is released [bondLady] a iraqi bank comes out [bondLady] askin for protection from the cbi an the goi/parliment [bondLady] protect our funds against [bondLady] laundering and corruption [bondLady] against huge cashins basically [bondLady] not to damage there banks imo [bondLady] so then the next thing 24 hrs later [bondLady] the cbi comes out [bondLady] an talks about putting a umberella around its reserves to protect them [bondLady] so all 3 of these things come in back to back [bondLady] there fixin to rv an need to be protected from every 1 cashing in all in 1 day imo [bondLady] or basically like that [bondLady] if 15% or less is left of the 000 left in circulation [bondLady] an everyone did it all at once dayum [bondLady] so let me try to stay on track here [bondLady] so robertdinaro brot me a article today [bondLady] and wanted me to break it down for him [bondLady] and i read it 5 or 10 times and im askin myself am i smart enuff to do this [bondLady] i could be wrong on some of this stuff [bondLady] not any thing above i know im right on that stuff [bondLady] but this article [bondLady] leaves some things to it that i dont wanna be wrong in so u all are gonna have to just take this as my opinon [bondLady] because i neever not only wanna be wrong but i never want to hurt any 1 by doin the rv date all the time or givein a rate [bondLady] or sayin it is a rv when in fact im not sure [bondLady] so let me bring it in its a very important article imo [bondLady] ok this was my chat about that imf article [bondLady] dated march 16th 2011 [bondLady] so one of our members [bondLady] robert dinaroh [bondLady] brot us a article [bondLady] and ill bring this in too [bondLady] keep in mind imf was from jan 2011 [bondLady] and the next 1 is from march 2011 [bondLady] Governor of Baghdad calls for agents to receive payments for compensatory and ration distribution to citizens The governor of Baghdad, Dr. Salah Abdul-Razzaq Agents ration card to receive compensatory payments for the lack of the ration card items from the General Company for Foodstuff Trading and distributed to citizezs. Dr. Salah Abdul-Razzaq said in a statement issued by the Information Office said on Wednesday that "the amount of money has been transferred to the State Company for Foodstuff Trading, which launched the amounts of compensation for the lack of ration card and delivered to the agents and distributed to citizens." The governor pointed out that "the amounts allocated to the province of Baghdad, which identified a number Nfosha of the Ministry of Finance estimated 108 billion and 223 million dinars will be distributed among the 7.214 million people, [bondLady] according to ministry statistics will be required to the ministry to increase the amount if rates were to prepare the citizens of Baghdad more than a calculated," referring to "Meet Earlier the Minister of Commerce and chaired a meeting with representatives of the Ministry of Commerce to discuss the mechanism of the distribution of awards to the shortage in the ration card items and conservative and put instructions and controls to facilitate the exchange rate mechanism amounts to the citizens in the coming days through the use of centers ration agents and the ration card for the delivery of funds to the citizens after allocated to them by banks. [bondLady] He noted Dr. Abdul-Razzaq said that "instructions and controls to maintain will be circulated between the agents and citizens, and banks for the purpose of the work which, while the distribution of money to beneficiaries as well as the identification of each agent the number of families that will be distributed with the amounts in each batch by 200 family maximum and secure the remaining funds for the families that do not decline to receive the amounts. [bondLady] Noting that "the province and the provincial council to oversee the distribution of money among citizens as well as direct supervision of the receipt of proxies for the amount of money from government banks after sending representatives from local councils with him at the receipt and according to the guidelines established for the agents of the province. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.ikhnews.com/news.php%3Faction%3Dview%26id%3D10049&ei=Hy6BTeOdHMXi0gG10dCHCQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB4Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.ikhnews.com/news.php%253Faction%253Dview%2526id%253D10049%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1R2ACAW_enUS365%26prmd%3Divns [bondLady] now this was my chat that had to do with this article [bondLady] as this article was the beginning of the media campaign to inform the iraqi people [bondLady] of there new currency [bondLady] how to spend there public money [bondLady] and schooling them in the exchange rate [bondLady] theres no need to school them in the 1170 exchange rate [bondLady] theve been dealng with that crappy rate for goin on 3 years [bondLady] so i think we can assume there will be a different rate than 1170 [bondLady] now let me bring in my comments [bondLady] ok gonna try an break this down [bondLady] the amount of money has been transferred to the State Company for Foodstuff Trading, which launched the amounts of compensation for the lack of ration card and delivered to the agents and distributed to citizens." The governor pointed out that "the amounts allocated to the province of Baghdad, [bondLady] which identified a number Nfosha of the Ministry of Finance estimated 108 billion and 223 million dinars will be distributed among the 7.214 million people, [bondLady] we originally thot it was about 3 millon people on basically welfare [bondLady] its a lot more [bondLady] out of about 30 millon people over 7 millon is on welfare [bondLady] now pay attention to what this says [bondLady] according to ministry statistics will be required to the ministry to increase the amount if rates were to prepare the citizens of Baghdad more than a calculated," [bondLady] prepare the citizens for a rate of increase [bondLady] man i hope im right about this if im not [ BondLady] no 1 can throw tomatoes at me [bondLady] Meet Earlier the Minister of Commerce and chaired a meeting with representatives of the Ministry of Commerce to discuss the mechanism of the distribution of awards to the shortage in the ration card items and conservative and put instructions and controls to facilitate the exchange rate mechanism amounts to the citizens in the coming days through the use of centers ration agents and the ration card for the delivery of funds to the citizens after allocated to them by banks ". [bondLady] the awards is the 15,000 dinars promised [bondLady] for delayin the ration cards [bondLady] and with it [bondLady] instructions [bondLady] and controls [bondLady] to facilitate the exchange rate [bondLady] mechanisim amounts [ [bondLady] to the citizens in the coming days [bondLady] now hes talkin about 2 different sets of people here [bondLady] the bennificarys is the 1s on welfare [bondLady] the citizens even tho they all are is the ones not on welfare [bondLady] so hes tellin all the leaders of all the provinvces to give all the people instructions about the exchange rate [bondLady] why would they need instructions about the exchange rate [bondLady] 1170? [bondLady] 1170? [bondLady] they wouldnt there well aware of that crappy rate [bondLady] but if it was a new rate [bondLady] they would need to know about there new purchaseing power [bondLady] with a new rate [bondLady] instructions and controls to maintain will be circulated between the agents and citizens, and banks for the purpose of the work which, while the distribution of money [bondLady] to beneficiaries as well as the identification of each agent the number of families that will be distributed with the amounts in each batch by 200 family maximum and secure the remaining funds for the families that do not decline to receive the amounts. " [bondLady] benifisarys is the people on welfare [bondLady] the others are the ones who have declined welfare [bondLady] and secure the remaining funds for the families that do not decline to receive the amounts. [bondLady] see what im sayin [bondLady] Noting that "the province and the provincial council to oversee the distribution of money among citizens as well as direct supervision of the receipt of proxies for the amount of money from government banks after sending representatives from local councils with him at the receipt and according to the guidelines established for the agents of the province." [bondLady] there sayin were gonna be watchin u and no more coruption [bondLady] we want recipts for every thing [bondLady] we wanna know exactly where all this money goes an to who [bondLady] to beneficiaries as well as the identification of each [bondLady] see they wanna make sure that every 1 promised gets paid [bondLady] every 1 has a number like our ss number [bondLady] ok that was roberts article [bondLady] ok so we see from these 2 articles [bondLady] the imf's hand in things here [bondLady] and then shabibis restructuring and raising the zeros on the dinar [bondLady] the media campaign started on march 4th 2011 [bondLady] to make the people aware of changes comming [bondLady] he didnt say im gonna make ur life worse [bondLady] he said im gonna make ur life better [bondLady] he says im gonna teach u all about the exchange rate [bondLady] and how u will be able to buy more with ur new money than u can now [bondLady] hes tryin to teach them so people cant rip them off [bondLady] in markets or crooks or scam artist [bondLady] he dont want them to be taken advantage of [bondLady] with the removal of the 000 from the dinar [bondLady] they might believe it devalued [bondLady] when in fact it revalued [bondLady] or raised in value [bondLady] he doesnt want them to be scammed [bondLady] so he had this media campaign 3 months ago [bondLady] that was basically over on june 4th [bondLady] and then the cbi has come back in an says [bondLady] hey our media campagnes finished [bondLady] and im ready to get on with it [bondLady] in a week to 10 days im releasing the new money ive been teaching u all about [bondLady] and your gonna be able to buy more [bondLady] but it wont help the economy that much because the private sector is whats gonna help the economy [bondLady] this new money will help u carry less cash an buy more [bondLady] so i hope this has helped to take you back down one of my chats memory lane and i hope u all learned something from it and that this chat has calmed fears and answered questions [bondLady] ty all [bondLady] drops the mic and walks off
    7 points
  9. My gut is telling me to go on a diet.
    7 points
  10. As far as the chat you're speaking of, I didn't see a "lot" of negative or disrespectful comments. I saw comments from members who expected more from the chat other than a pitch for the VIP membership. I personally thought that "most" of the comments were in no way out of line at all. It seems to me that those who play on every single word that Adam types thinks that anyone who questions or disagrees with him is crossing a line that's forbidden to cross. Regardless of who owns the site, moderates it, dedicates a lot time to it, etc., EVERYONE has to respect each other. And trust me, I've seen a lot of unwarranted snide comments from quite a few members including Adam and some of the moderators. So the fact that you're putting Adam on a pedestal and excluding him from your "NEGATISM [which isn't a word] AND DISRESPECT" warning that you're trying to convey to ALL members is, in my opinion, wrong. Delete his name and "moderators" from your post and direct this to all members. No one should be exempted. What I've noticed is that some of staff and the members who have been here for a long time that think that they have a right to say anything they want and when questioned they reply with some cocky, arrogant response as if their time or position here makes them better than others. Sorry but it doesn't. Also some just need to have thick skin. Even if someone is attempting to attack you personally why get bent out of shape if you know that person knows absolutely nothing too personal about you other than what you expose on this site? Those who intentionally attack someone personally usually have more of an issue with themselves than they do with the person they're going after. In closing, I wish members like yourself would stop trying to defend other members especially Adam and the moderators. You're intentions are great but they're in the positions to step up at anytime to try and bring peace to this forum. If they don't then I highly don't that those speaking for them will. This is just my opinion which should be taken as just that. But regardless of my opinion which wasn't shared to disrespect anyone, I'm sure I'll get negative marks. Oh well... life goes on.
    7 points
  11. 6-23-11 Frank’s Thursday Night Intel Call By DebTarHeelGirl New people have gotten involved with this blessing at the last minute – welcome Thursday of last week – I gave a broker advertisement for Dinar – I am just make the calls to this broker to help you get dinars at a low price. My broker for the dinars said for me today at 2pm to stop selling dinar orders for him via your phone calls due to the lower denoms possibly being out in Iraq now. We have stopped as of 2pm today. Great evidence that this RV will happen very, very soon – when the blessing happens it will skyrocket – gold should go down and the $$ go up cause the blessing is coming… Kuwait Kurds are in Control – pay attention to Kuwait – they need to be satisfied – they were raped in front of the world – Kuwait needed to be satisfied – they were treated with respect and dignity and quick answers and the Emir came over in Jan and Feb and March our PM went to see him – last year the asked for – the Iraq Dinar was printed in 2004 but Kurds made it clear we want our bodies back – the crates filled with those bodies Saddam gassed and buried in the sand - no penny higher than our currency when you come out – the currency has the Kurd language now on the new lower denoms… the new currency is now from the Kurds – many phases that we feel are a delay of this blessing – no there have been phases to get this done. A new currency had to be printed. They demanded this new currency and its done as of a few months ago and Shabibi will take this to the laws to use this currency and have a rate with it. When gas went to a dollar a gallon folks went crazy – then the 80’s it raised again and then 90’s we got use to $2-$3 rate - NO president ever released the oil reserves yet – all fo a sudden Obama released 60 million barrels of oil today – see below the article The U.S. Department of Energy said it will release 30 million barrels of oil from the Strategic National Reserve to alleviate Libyan oil supply disruptions, in the midst of already-plummeting oil prices. The U.S. release is part of a 60 million barrel increase in supply announced Thursday by the International Energy Agency, which includes the U.S. as one of its 28 member nations, "in response to the ongoing disruption of oil supplies from Libya." The U.S. Energy Department said the reserve is at the "historically high level" of 727 million barrels. "We are taking this action in response to the ongoing loss of crude oil due to supply disruptions in Libya and other countries and their impact on the global economic recovery," said Energy Secretary Steven Chu. "As we move forward, we will continue to monitor the situation and stand ready to take additional steps if necessary." Meanwhile, Libya is still locked in civil war, as rebels aided by NATO airstrikes try to unseat Mohammar Gadhafi. Oil prices fell more than 4.5% Thursday, as investors signaled disappointment over a bummer of a speech by Fed chief Ben Bernanke. Oil prices plunged $4.71 to $90.89 per barrel. Prices edged down about 1.5% in Wednesday's session following Bernanke's speech. Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke issued a gloomy forecast of the economy on Tuesday, triggering a stock decline of 0.7% on Wall Street. "Bernanke's statement about the 'slowing pace of recovery' was the key to this down move," said Dan Dicker, former oil trader and author of "Oil's Endless Bid: Taming the Unreliable Price of Oil to Secure Our Economy." In particular, he highlighted the stagnant job market and the potential impact of the Greek fiscal crisis. He projected that unemployment would "come down very painfully and slowly." Dicker said that oil prices were also "under pressure from growth slowdowns." Tom Kloza, chief oil analyst for the Oil Price Information Service, said the increasing value of the U.S. dollar is also "putting downward pressure on oil." He also said, "The oil futures markets is dominated by the huge institutional money managers who move tens of millions of dollars moment by moment in and out of positions in crude. Since about 3 p.m. yesterday [Wednesday] afternoon, they have been liquidating their long positions." Story posted 2011.06.23 at 10:26 AM EDT ________________________________________ © 2004-2011 LSN, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Why would our President release this oil now – its only 90 a barrel now – its dropping. We have begged him for a LONG time to sign it – he signed it today – we want this oil in our infrastructure – the stock market went ballistic today – they know what is about to happen – you know this blessing is coming – are you really prepared? Are you ready…. So the President finally signed something and he releases the oil as we are about to use very quickly as he will be able to replace that oil at the same time next month On Tuesday June 21, 2011, 10:25 am EDT CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Bank of America Corp. said on Tuesday that it will nearly double the size of its staff of financial advisers serving its "preferred customers," those with investable assets of $50,000 to $250,000........ http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Bank-of-A ... l?x=0&.v=1 & http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/0 ... -plus.html ) Source: Bank of America. Merrill Lynch Global Wealth Management (MLGWM) represents multiple business areas within Bank of America's wealth and investment management division including Merrill Lynch Wealth Management (North America and International), Merrill Lynch Trust Company, and Private Banking & Investment Group. As of March 31, 2011, MLGWM entities had approximately $1.5 trillion in client balances. Client Balances consists of the following assets of clients held in their MLGWM accounts: assets under management (AUM) of MLGWM entities, client brokerage assets, assets in custody of MLGWM entities, loan balances and deposits of MLGWM clients held at Bank of America, N.A. and affiliated banks. This reflects a change in calculation methodology effective March 31, 2011. MANY Banks are increasing their agents- were doubled also – FOR US to take care of OUR TAXES Lower denoms are using 1,5,10, 20 and 50s – they add their own black market value to it – now the CBI is about to add a TRUE value to it and raising the value up. 1am this morning, the CBI has decided to execute the plan and will do this to adding value to the IQD – it started today telling the people increase the value of their national currency and introduce the lower denoms up to 100 dinar – they are finished lifting the zeros… Same article below came out in August – the PAST TENSE has already started this Industrial Bank to reduce loans to promote new projects, industry, and employment Posted: June 23, 2011 by THE CURRENCY NEWSHOUND - Just Hopin in Iraqi Dinar/Politics Tags: Baghdad, Director-general, Iraq, List of banks in Iraq, Loan, middle east, Ministry of Industry (Iraq), Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs 0 Industrial Bank reduces interest loans to industrialists by 50% Started the Industrial Bank developed a comprehensive plan to promote the reality of industrial in Iraq in cooperation with the Ministry of Industry and Minerals and the Federation of Iraqi Industries. The Director General of Industrial Bank and Agency Mohamed Abdel-Wahab Abdel-Kader said the board of directors develop a plan to promote the reality of industrial in Iraq in cooperation with the relevant industry, which includes facilitate the process of granting loans to industrialists as well as to fund projects for the purpose of building factories, buying machinery and raw materials with advanced features to facilitate the functioning of the wheel of industry in Iraq. He said Abdul Wahab said the industrialists Almtlkin in their industrial and Tlkahm in repayment of loans that were taken from the bank during the last period we will schedule a payment to be from three to seven years in addition to reducing the interest on the amounts in their possession by 50%, where it is re-cost loan to the bank and all of these plans is to develop the wheel of development in Iraq and create jobs for unemployed young Iraqis registered in the records of the Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs. Indicating that the loans were recently approved and is estimated at 15 million dinars for the construction of factories for industrialists young and those who do not have the ability to build factories working on the development of industry in Iraq, as well as loans to be granted for the purchase of cars productivity of the industry has the ability to take loans to build factories and also for a car production and that the bank is ready to grant loans together. He explained that the Board of Directors of the Bank to provide a study of the central bank to reduce interest rates that are taken for the loans granted to industrialists, this also will contribute to the development of the economy in Iraq. He drew attention to the meetings will continue with the Ministry of Industry and Minerals and the Federation of Iraqi Industries for the development of the industry in both Iraq and its potential as well as available to the Council of Ministers – Department of Economic and contributing actively to the development of the economic process in Iraq. http://wp.me/pZC7o-8My At Least 25 of these employees coming to the infrastructure companies has to be Iraq Citizens Industrial Bank to reduce loans to promote new projects, industry, and employment Posted: June 23, 2011 by THE CURRENCY NEWSHOUND - Just Hopin in Iraqi Dinar/Politics Tags: Baghdad, Director-general, Iraq, List of banks in Iraq, Loan, middle east, Ministry of Industry (Iraq), Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs 0 Industrial Bank reduces interest loans to industrialists by 50% Started the Industrial Bank developed a comprehensive plan to promote the reality of industrial in Iraq in cooperation with the Ministry of Industry and Minerals and the Federation of Iraqi Industries. The Director General of Industrial Bank and Agency Mohamed Abdel-Wahab Abdel-Kader said the board of directors develop a plan to promote the reality of industrial in Iraq in cooperation with the relevant industry, which includes facilitate the process of granting loans to industrialists as well as to fund projects for the purpose of building factories, buying machinery and raw materials with advanced features to facilitate the functioning of the wheel of industry in Iraq. He said Abdul Wahab said the industrialists Almtlkin in their industrial and Tlkahm in repayment of loans that were taken from the bank during the last period we will schedule a payment to be from three to seven years in addition to reducing the interest on the amounts in their possession by 50%, where it is re-cost loan to the bank and all of these plans is to develop the wheel of development in Iraq and create jobs for unemployed young Iraqis registered in the records of the Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs. Indicating that the loans were recently approved and is estimated at 15 million dinars for the construction of factories for industrialists young and those who do not have the ability to build factories working on the development of industry in Iraq, as well as loans to be granted for the purchase of cars productivity of the industry has the ability to take loans to build factories and also for a car production and that the bank is ready to grant loans together. He explained that the Board of Directors of the Bank to provide a study of the central bank to reduce interest rates that are taken for the loans granted to industrialists, this also will contribute to the development of the economy in Iraq. He drew attention to the meetings will continue with the Ministry of Industry and Minerals and the Federation of Iraqi Industries for the development of the industry in both Iraq and its potential as well as available to the Council of Ministers – Department of Economic and contributing actively to the development of the economic process in Iraq. http://wp.me/pZC7o-8My The loans has to be backed by money – High interest rates have to be reduced cause the currency Nadia came on the call to tell a story born in Baghdad – Caldeon people is her heritage – she is Christian Caldeon – gave her testimony. Most recently there are 1000s of people who have come to know Jesus right there in Iraq – she continued with the word of the love of God in the Iraqi people there now in Iraq. WOW WOW WOW says Delta and now Delta interprets in Arabic the following article – unbelievable –Monday Shabibi said 7-10 days lots are unfolding now in front of our eyes. - the article that came out today and I read it and posted on forum to show that the CBI introduced the new currency lower denoms up to 100. They will have a 1,5, 10,20, 50, 100 dinar = then they said that on wed the CBI decided to fix the structure of the Iraq Currency and they started executing this plan of this currency and it will be along term kind of plan and it indicates the two denoms will co-exist. The bank says that they will revalue the national currency – this is their announcement of the RI-RV – TODAY on TV today they showed the Iraq people introducing the lower denoms up to 100 notes and in 48-72 hours we should have the pictures of the lower denoms in use by the 28th We are looking for Sun – Mon – Tuesday for the RI- RV – Shabibi will be back in Iraq on Saturday – do not think the processing of parliament articles are current - they are recycling old articles so be extremely careful – do not need parliaments approval just only to cancel a currency of the CBI after the revalue - they have a strategy of pulling of the larger denoms. Delta states on Frank’s call = By July 1st Iraq has to be ready to conduct business – by June 28th they have to have the rate increased and introduce the new lower denoms or they will never go international with their currency which has to be done by July 1st – it could have happened today – but Delta was told and it was confirmed that Shabibi has to be in Iraq to have this happen, We are looking on Sunday to see the lower denoms and the revalue take place – it will be hand in hand coming out together – no later than Tuesday everything has been done – this is what I have been told here in Iraq today. They introduced the new lower denoms Wed-Thurs but for the official start of lower denoms use will come this early Sun or Mon and no later than Tuesday with a rate increase no matter what. Be ready as Shabibi did say on the 20th of June that in 7-10 days they will have this done. Frank states all the articles we study coming out now are showing PAST TENSE - that this is done – they are showing their “hands’ now to us – we are about to partake of this blessing anytime. Delta stated today on Iraq TV they mentioned and confirmed the DFI accounts today that they do have control of the money – its now complete. If this is our last conference call I just want to say I so appreciate all of you and I do thank you and feel you are a family. Everyone is saying their goodbyes on Frank's call as though this is the last major conference call - WOO HOO! Frank will have a Monday call if this RV does happen so it will help those who need guidance. When RV takes place look for fireworks on front page – also the rate will be in RED. Mass email will be sent out to all who have been on any of our sites when the blessing occurs. END OF CALL
    7 points
  12. Yes, and if my aunt had balls she'd by my uncle!
    7 points
  13. I was at work this morning when a client told me he was leaving for Iraq on Friday. He brought it up, I asked, I wonder how the dinar is doing? He said do you have some and I said yes, he said that his company just got the contract for a electronics deal they have been working on and it was based on a revalued currency and he will be there for three weeks. I said really! He said yes and that I should hear something within a week, I said that I hoped it was 1 to 1 with the dollar, he said I think you will see closer to 3. This actually happened today, I am always skeptical but he was very informed of what his company is doing. I hope this is true, he did say before the end of the month I should know!
    6 points
  14. I dont know if it has already posted here, but I just got this via email.. Date: June 23, 2011 11:17:34 AM PDT Subject: FW: Dinar Banker update Interesting update. Jim They are definitely going to be at major airports. MSP is included. They expect to be operational within 42hrs after the announcement of an RV RI. Appointments can be made on line or by phone. If you have purchased from them they will email you with notification of RI RV and their team will begin calling minutes after the announcement directly to your phone to arrange an appointment. Each transaction is $150.00 fee. So if you cash in an amount and then want cash back or any other separate function performed like lower denoms etc....each transaction is $150 more. They are considering doing groups away from the airport depending on the number of people and total amount of dinars involved. They will not do group appointments at any bank. They also feel most people will be able to do this at the airport location. The location at the airport will be in a back protected area and in a back office arrangement. The location and entrance will be only disclosed at the confirmation of your appointment and must be kept confidential for all concerned. The UST or other other types of agents may be spot checking these locations....however they will not be a part of your transaction. They said it is NOT true that 15% will be taken out of the cash in procedure. If the bank has some arrangement, they do not know, but they are NOT involved in anything except getting your cash in into your bank via the wire. You will see it on the screen there as pending....you may use your cell phone to verify with your banker contact, but the appointments are meant to go quick in order to process many appointments. Only your bank can answer questions about length of time for pending, etc. You may arrange for up to $10,000 in cash....but this must be arranged in advance..Remember the $150 fee for any additional transaction. If you want a certified check or any other special needs this also must be arranged in advance. Dinar trade also has made it clear they will be open in all areas as previously arranged. According to my last call, all cash in procedures remain the same as previously announced. Happy to pass this on in case it answers questions for anyone in our group. Ready to receive our blessing for us and for the iraqi citizens. [debgirl] Delta states on Frank’s call = By July 1st Iraq has to be ready to conduct business – by June 28th they have to have the rate increased and introduce the new lower denoms or they will never go international with their currency which has to be done by July 1st – it could have happened today – but Delta was told and it was confirmed that Shabibi has to be in Iraq to have this happen, We are looking on Sunday to see the lower denoms and the revalue take place – it will be hand in hand coming out together – no later than Tuesday everything has been done – this is what I have been told here in Iraq today. They introduced the lower denoms was Wed-Thurs but for the official start of lower denoms use will come this early Sun or Mon and no later than Tuesday with a rate increase no matter what. Be ready as Shabibi did say on the 20th of June that in 7-10 days they will have this done.
    6 points
  15. [bondLady] my opinion for what it’s worth on this is that in 2003 all the 14 notes were printed then i couldn’t believe it if they hadn’t of released the 50 iqd note then but they did and that was in 2003 and since then the Kurds per the Erbil agreement requested there Kurdish language be put on the currency and rightfully so because saddam put them thru almost as much as he did the Kuwaitis and there they richest part of Iraq per oil they deserve to be recognized and have their language on the notes but because they had already printed them imo the article says***He added that the benefit of “the new currency that will be printed****** after the deletion of zeros******* will contain the Kurdish language in addition to Arabic, as well as some pictures that refer to the heritage and civilization of Iraq and symbols of Iraqi scientists and intellectuals.” *******see it’ll be printed after the deletion of the zeros, which to do that imo will be to use the lower denoms they already have an possibly by the next rv they will have printed the new Iraqi Kurdish paper, thus still keeping the contract of Irbil with the Kurds…all imo hope this helps and hope I’m right… [bondLady] this was a convo i was having with another person on a diff site [bondLady] zaborniake, on 23 June 2011 – 11:23 AM, said: Ok. So the new lowers are printed post RV and get the new language. It makes sense. I don’t see how this changes anything to the negative. It’s what they’ve been saying all along. Remove the large notes, RV, introduce the lowers. Once the lowers without the language are introduced, they’ll print the new ones after all the initial kinks are worked out. No? that’s the way i see it….they can’t IMO just get rid of the zeros without already having a replacement for them…they already had them IMO but after they feel reasonably sure they’ve removed all the 000 from all over the world then they would IMO come out with all new paper….BondLady [bondLady] back to news searches [cranster] BondLady so you’re saying they will have a second printing of lower denoms with Kurdish language on it? [grashopa] BondLady ….I thought that the fils were part of that agreement….and would suffice [bondLady] my scenario is [bondLady] yes it would make perfect sense to come out with the coins and they be the Kurd language [bondLady] and i pretty much always thot that [bondLady] but when it says paper [bondLady] that’s not coin [grashopa] understood [bondLady] so unless there’s a translation thing [bondLady] yes but I’ll try to say this real fast and then get back to it [cranster] BondLady hopefully we’ll find out soon [bondLady] but when they released the 50 iqd in 2003 [bondLady] that tells me imo [bondLady] they had all the denominations [bondLady] otherwise why the 50 [bondLady] and this is high dollar to make [bondLady] in 2005 they said they had 14 denoms [bondLady] if u add them all up that we see an then add the ld’s we don’t see [bondLady] that makes 14 [bondLady] each dinar imo cost like 5 to 7 cents apiece to make [grashopa] including the fils [bondLady] to reprint right now when there broke [bondLady] would cost them billons [bondLady] do they have billons to spend for this right now? [bondLady] or would it not be wise to use the ones they have [cranster] so release what they have already printed now, rv, then print the new bills with Kurdish language [bondLady] and then in like next yr or by 2013 have their economy booming [bondLady] and then fulfill the rest of Erbil [bondLady] as they already have the promise the fed gov will do this for the Kurds [bondLady] that’s the way i see it [cranster] makes sense [bondLady] why waste a brand new [paper that was so expensive to make [bondLady] an just trash trillions of it [bondLady] it says AFTER THE DELETION [bondLady] then they would make the new [bondLady] they can’t do this without a currency [bondLady] what would they use to take its place until they’re pretty sure they have them all [bondLady] see what I’m sayin [cranster] but to be able to afford to print the new they need to raise the value of the currency first [bondLady] this scenario will have to play out for us to know for sure [bondLady] and we don’t have long to wait to see either [bondLady] there gonna release them per shabs a week to 10 days puts it around the 28th to the 30th [bondLady] imo [bondLady] anywhos [grashopa] I just can’t see em printing new currency right now…..they do have the fils….and it does contain the Kurdish language [cranster] BondLady exciting times fo sho [grashopa] we went over this 6mo ago [bondLady] i need to get back to news its Friday and I’m really having to look for news today it’s there holy day and a lil quiet so far [bondLady] yes we did gh [bondLady] i agree [bondLady] i think there gonna use the ld’s in the same batch as the 50 [bondLady] then make new later on when there up an runnin [grashopa] I agree to that [bigdinaros] they gonna release the lower denoms at 28th to 30th of June? [cranster] bigdinaros the evidence points to that distinct possibility [bigdinaros] that means rv [cranster] bigdinaros we’ll just have to wait and see, no rates and dates here [bigdinaros] I know [cranster] bigdinaros but exciting times for sure [bigdinaros] but when they release the smaller denoms, they would have a hard time not rving [bondLady] per shabs yes big [bondLady] shabs said [bondLady] he was gonna release them but it wouldn’t change nothin [bondLady] he said the decision lies within the house and the gov [bondLady] basically he’s done what he was supposed to do [bondLady] an if u all read my 1,2,3 to rv [bondLady] shabs took his findings an how much currency [bondLady] was in country and out an gave them a rate the cbi reserves could handle [bondLady] it’s up to the house of reps to pass his laws he brot [bondLady] or basically his rate an approve the releases of the ld’s [bondLady] so the next day maliki gets to chose his own ministers and they move on to a majority gov without allawis interference [bondLady] so we wait and see [bondLady] maliki told the world he’d release the ld’s in a week to 10 days [bondLady] he didn’t say rv [bondLady] he said it wouldn’t change nothin [bondLady] because the decision still sits in the house [bondLady] an imo they’ve been waitin on the gov to be set [bondLady] an shabs tryin to curb inflation [bondLady] pushed the issue to get them to sit [bondLady] imo [bondLady] hope all that helped [bigdinaros] sure [bondLady] i really need to get back to the news [grashopa] BondLady ….but I thought that vote was on the monetary policy [bigdinaros] but they have to rv, can´t buy anything with smaller denoms [bondLady] shabs controls monetary policy not the house [grashopa] and the banks qualifying the participate in the auctions
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  16. Something you said made me think of something. The articles that are coming out say that three zeros were "added" to circulation when the economy was faltering and inflation was rampant. Adding zeros meant the addition of large notes (25K, 10K, etc) in to circulation. Now, that being the case, why would anyone interpret "removing" three zeros to mean anything other than the exact opposite of what they meant by adding three zeros? It's the removal of the large notes!
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  17. Picture 6-23-11 Ray The CBI has already presented to request to the Ministers to delete the three zeroes, which they approved. It then went to Maliki for his approval and signature. He approved and signed it and then it was sent to Parliament for their vote of approval. I haven't heard if they have voted on it yet or not. I'm still trying to find out. The new currency has already been printed, in Switzerland, and has been shipped to Iraq. It is being stored in the Green Zone and heavily guarded. The new currency does have Arabic and Kurdish language both on the new bills. This is the currency that people in Iraq will be exchanging their current dinar for the new dinar. We will be cashing ours in here for US Dollars at the new RV rate. No LOP. 6-23-2011 Hawaiimtt Most off the intel today is true... the only thing I want to also bring to you is that the rate will not come in low and then rise.. it will come in High and stay strong and that is fact....Just want people to be clear of that as some people are pushing low rate but that is just not true. We are looking great tonight after London market opens. The CBI doors do not need to be open for Rate to go live. 6-23-2011 Delta THIS ARTICLE JUST CAME FROM IRAQI NEWSPAPER...I DID READ IT IN ARABIC. IT LOOKS LIKE THE CBI DID START THE EXECUTION OF THE PLAN. BASED ON THIS NEW INFO WE MIGHT SEE SOMETHING TONIGHT. 6-23-2011 Med with the pending removal of three zeros, it is important to put a disclaimer on the website stating that it could mean various things, including the issuance of a new currency... 6-23-2011 Athena The dfi funds have not been released yet, they were suppose to today and has not happened. Some banks were ping{ing} today and it was the real ping, not the pings we have heard about for months, this was from the cbi and it is the real deal. There was another ping also that I will not say what it is about but they are about ready if you read between the lines.
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  18. JMW- I am a bit disappointed in myself after reading my prior post and your response. I sincerly hope that you have not actually drawn the conclusion that you posted above. If so, I owe you and this site an appology. I would hope those words were written in anger rather than true insight. You do know me, Im the guy that is quick with a smile, loves my family more than life itself, and yes on occasions lashes out at someone in anger. I have been a fighter all my life. If I have offended you or your way of life I truly appologize. I am currently in the fight of my life and this scenario that played out was a vehicle to explode with some of my inner frustrations. I truly believed, what I posted was fact. The entire peice is based on information I could find. More over, both you and drox brought points to be considered and researched that I had not seen. Some of the points shown do not seem to apply to my posted opinion. I still cant find or rather see how to fit them in. I will certain have to agree to disagree with you on some of it if for no other reason than I wont debate an issue I know nothing about. My agenda at this point is to survive both the cancer and the RV. Once again if my negative responses and anger have left you or anyone on this site feeling anything less than darn good, then I truly appologize. I still have alot to learn... "God bless you and yours, with all the goodness only he can provide" With my utmost respect, Quietlearner
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  19. Just wanted to say hello and that I love this site. I have learned so much from all of you and and can't wait for this RV to happen.
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  20. NOTHING MORE THEN A WAY TO DRIVE INVESTORS TO DUMP DINAR IN ORDER TO BRING THE BIG BILLS. BACK TO CBI OR EVEN TO TAKE THEM OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE NOVICE INVESTOR. The onrush of lop articles are published at least four times a year and we all have seen it over and over and over the past three years. Of course I could be wrong but really? Please, remember what Shabibi said at the International Meeting in Jackson Hole, Wyoming in October of 2010. Almost all directors or all Central Banks were present as well as many others. You can find these the reports and articles in that time frame right here at Dinar Vets. God Bless America!
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  21. Well, at least the shipping is free.
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  22. I'm sure you're right. They probably just added all those personal bankers to handle all the wealth being accumulated by general contractors and real estate agents, over the last several months...
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  23. Here's some REAL facts for ya, not about the dinar but they had me ROTFLMAO! Maybe they will give u a smile or 2! They are in the off topoic forum! If you yelled for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days you would have produced enough sound energy to heat one cup of coffee. (Hardly seems worth it.) If you farted consistently for 6 years and 9 months, enough gas is produced to create the energy of an atomic bomb. (Now that's more like it!) The human heart creates enough pressure when it pumps out to the body to squirt blood 30 feet. (O.M.G.!) A pig's orgasm lasts 30 minutes. (In my next life, I want to be a pig.) A cockroach will live nine days without its head before it starves to death. (Creepy.) (I'm still not over the pig.) Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour. (Don't try this at home ; maybe at work.) The male praying mantis cannot copulate while its head is attached to its body. The female initiates sex by ripping the male's head off. (Honey, I'm home . What the...?) The flea can jump 350 times its body length. It's like a human jumping the length of a football field. (30 minutes. Lucky pig! Can you imagine?) The catfish has over 27,000 taste buds. (What could be so tasty on the bottom of a pond?) Some lions mate over 50 times a day. (I still want to be a pig in my next life...quality over quantity.) Butterflies taste with their feet. (Something I always wanted to know.) Right-handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left-handed people. (If you're ambidextrous, do you split the difference?) Elephants are the only animals that cannot jump. (Okay, so that would be a good thing.) A cat's urine glows under a black light. (I wonder how much the government paid to figure that out.) An ostrich's eye is bigger than its brain. (I know some people like that.) Starfish have no brains. (I know some people like that, too.) Polar bears are left-handed. (If they switch, they'll live a lot longer.) Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex for pleasure. (What about that pig? Do the dolphins know about the pig?) Now that you've smiled at least once, it's your turn to spread these crazy facts and send this to someone you want to bring a smile to, maybe even a chuckle. In other words, send it to everyone! (and God love that pig!) Read more:
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  24. " In the longer term, Saleh said a redenomination is needed wherein three zeros will be dropped so that the 25,000 Iraqi-dinar banknote -- currently the largest denomination -- becomes a 25-dinar note." This leads me to believe that, when they do revalue a 25,ooo dinar note will be worth face value 25,ooo dinar..But after a time limit (In the Longer term) the 000's will be dropped or taken away and it will then be the new 25 dinar note.
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  25. listen do you guys remember when i told you my buddy John went to the U.S commerce Shabbs said himself there is so much PROPAGANDA regarding their news its insane. Honestly i've read saleh's quotes and he always contradicts himself, Stop worrying we wait and see this plan hasn't even been submitted to parliament its trying to put out misinformation when the RV is upon us its his job to do so. That is a FACT!!!!!!
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  26. Why would you want to? It’s AC Report and he is an idiot…
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  27. This is exactly the attitude Heavy is talking about ......... I for one am sick of it. For one it makes it hard to read some of the threads when you got some smart ass posting nonsence every few posts or they just go way over the top to get someone. it's not smart or clever to bash someone else, it really shows your true colours ...... Yellow .
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  28. Kincaid: Is the FBI Investigating Obama? By Cliff Kincaid June 23, 2011 6:45 am In a front page story about a major FBI terrorism investigation, The Washington Post has reported that the targets include “Chicagoans who crossed paths with Obama when he was a young state senator and some who have been active in labor unions that supported his political rise.” The implication is that the trail could lead to the White House. This is an unusual investigation that does not primarily involve Islamists. Instead, it is focused on elements of the old international communist networks that many people mistakenly thought had faded away with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Those under investigation are suspected of providing support to foreign terrorist organizations such as the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in the Middle East, a Marxist group. The Post called them “Colombian and Palestinian groups designated by the U.S. government as terrorists.” The investigations came into public view last September when the FBI raided the homes of several “activists,” as the Post called them. Some lived in Chicago. One of the targets, Tom Burke, was a union organizer for the Service Employees International Union (SEIU). He was so confident he would get a fair shake from the Post that he provided the paper with a photo of himself shaking hands with Barack Obama. The other apparent intention was to send a message to the President and Attorney General Eric Holder that any investigation of Burke might lead to Obama. The Post suggested that investigations of labor union activists might jeopardize their support for Obama’s 2012 presidential run. Indeed, it could therefore threaten his re-election bid, if investigations determine that the activists did more than “cross paths” with the President. Deep inside the article, in the 29th paragraph, we find out that some of the “activists” are associated with a group known as the Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO), a Marxist-Leninist organization. Burke is a member of the FRSO, which the Post admitted was “far left.” The obvious question is why Obama, as a state senator in Illinois, would ever have “crossed paths” with such people. The answer goes beyond just union support for the candidate. The “far-left” networks that include the FRSO, the Communist Party USA, the New American Movement, and the Democratic Socialists of America backed and even spawned Obama’s political career. Don’t forget that Weather Underground leaders Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn hosted a fundraiser for his first run for political office. The same networks also backed CIA Director Leon Panetta’s career when he was a congressman from Santa Cruz, California. This helps explain why Obama would pick Panetta, with no intelligence background, to run the intelligence agency. They are cut from the same cloth. Nevertheless, on Tuesday, the Senate voted 100-0 in favor of Panetta’s nomination as Secretary of Defense. It was a classic case of “head in the sand” politics, ignoring not only Panetta’s long-time relationship with Communist Party member Hugh DeLacy but his record as a congressman in undercutting then-President Reagan’s pro-defense policies at every turn. Obama and Panetta were players in the “progressive” community, which since the days of Henry Wallace, presidential candidate of the Progressive Party, has had a red tint. Obama had his own communist mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party member under FBI investigation for 19 years, while Panetta gave DeLacy, who had traveled to China to meet with Soviet and Chinese intelligence agents, sensitive reports on U.S. military matters. Any notion that Panetta had no awareness of DeLacy’s Communist affiliation was obliterated when Panetta in 1983 inserted a tribute to DeLacy into the Congressional Record, praising his resistance to “McCarthyism.” Former FBI agent Max Noel once told me that the Bureau used to investigate candidates for federal employment by analyzing Character, Associates, Reputation, and Loyalty to the United States. The first letters in those words make up the acronym CARL. By the standard of “A”—Associates—Panetta flunks. But so does Obama. Another sensitive case involves Huma Abedin, a top aide to Secretary of State Hillarious Clinton and wife of disgraced Rep. Anthony Weiner. Walid Shoebat and Ben Barrack have reported that Arab newspapers have revealed that Huma Abedin’s mother is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a group whose goal is to subvert Western civilization. Jamie Glazov of Front Page Magazine asks Robert Spencer, “There is a remote possibility that Abedin is actually being deceptive in her marriage to Weiner to follow Muslim Brotherhood instructions and to infiltrate the U.S. government, correct?” Spencer replies, “Certainly. That is a very real possibility, and it should be investigated. But the only ones who have the means to do so are mainstream media journalists who are either clueless or complicit.” It may also be the case that the FBI never investigated Abedin’s background. As the FBI does not vet presidential candidates for national security purposes, we know there would have been no FBI investigation into Obama’s own background, associations, loyalty, and overall fitness for office. The FBI only probes those being considered for some federal positions under the president. They should have therefore investigated Panetta. But there is no indication that he was ever properly vetted. Now he is confirmed as Secretary of Defense because conservative Republican Senators were apparently afraid of being accused of McCarthyism for questioning his past associations. On the other hand, the “progressives” are raising hell with Obama and want him to rein in the FBI. They want to further emasculate the agency charged with ferretting out subversives and terrorist support networks. As the Post noted, “nine members of Congress have written letters to the administration” complaining about the FBI probe of Burke and other activists. The Post even noted that another one of the targets of the investigation, a union organizer named Tracy Molm, managed to arrange a meeting with Holder himself. One of these congressional members is Muslim Rep. Keith Ellison, the foremost critic of Rep. Peter King’s hearings into radical Islam in America. “Shortly after the raids,” Ellison said, “I made inquiries to the FBI field office for more information. FBI Special Agent Boelter confirmed that an investigation was ongoing. He informed me that due to the pending nature of the investigation, he was prohibited from sharing any further information. However he gave me assurance that the purpose of the searches and service of subpoenas was not to punish or to suppress protected First Amendment activity.” Pro-Marxist activist Medea Benjamin has said she managed to have a few words with Holder as well to complain about the probes. She is with the Code Pink group that travels to Gaza to meet with the terrorist group Hamas. She is also a staunch ally of Adam Kokesh, the “Russia Today” TV star who openly admits that he functions as a paid Russian agent of the Vladimir Putin regime. Holder is receptive to this kind of appeal because of his friendship with Obama and record as Deputy Attorney General in the Clinton Administration for facilitating pardons and clemency for terrorists from the Puerto Rican FALN and Weather Underground. It is this record that puts the current investigations by the FBI in serious jeopardy. The Post article has to be seen as a signal to Holder from those around Obama that he must act quickly to close down these investigations before they get too close for comfort to the Oval Office. First, however, he has to make sure that the congressional investigations don’t get too close to Holder himself. It won’t look good for the Attorney General to be personally implicated in knowledge of the federal gunrunning schemes now under Congressional investigation that provided weapons to Mexican narco-terrorist cartels. The evidence already shows that federal authorities let guns fall into the hands of known criminals. --- Cliff Kincaid is the Director of the AIM Center for Investigative Journalism, and can be contacted at cliff.kincaid@aim.org.
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  29. I understand your anxious about all of this, but in the big scope of things, what it is, is what it is. You have spent your hard earned cash in hope of a better future for you and the family, same as all of us. At this point there is not a thing we can do, except sell, and that is not an option for either of us. Personally, I do not believe any of us has a thing to worry about, except what to wear to the bank on cash in day. So my advice is take a big breath, relax and crack a softdrink. Were just about there. pp
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  30. FACTS TO ADD ON IF YOU DO NOT MIND!! FROM IMF B. Monetary and Exchange Rate Policy 14. The authorities remain committed to ensuring the independence of the CBI. A ruling by Iraq’s Federal Supreme Court also noted that while the CBI is part of the country’s executive apparatus, it is by law independent in its decisions and operations. Total government and public sector deposits 29.2 TRILLION DINAR The DFI and associated immunities were extended by the UN Security Council to end- June 2011. The authorities remain committed to establishing a successor mechanism that includes a single oil revenue account that would be subject to the same principles of accountability and transparency as currently apply to the DFI. In the meantime, the authorities continue to make progress in addressing remaining claims and liabilities from the Saddam-era and will ensure that they maintain appropriate legal counsel to handle any further claims that may emerge (a new continuous structural benchmark). The reviews of government bank accounts and the stock of advances clearly show the need to move toward introducing a single treasury account (STA). The authorities--single treasury acct = dinar instead of $'s share this view. As a first step of moving ahead with what will be a lengthy process, staff of the Fund and the Bank will assist the authorities with advancing the process for establishing a Financial Management and Information System (FMIS), an important step in the process of moving toward a STA, by helping to determine a set of core functionality requirements (a new benchmark for end-May 2011). As a transition to a STA, the authorities also plan, with the assistance of Fund technical assistance, to streamline cash management in the short run already by granting a larger role to the CBI in the Treasury’s banking arrangements and thus to reduce outstanding cash balances (a new benchmark for end-June 2011). *This last part is talking of the fact of removing the large (25k notes) outstanding cash balances and bringing in a STA (single treasury not dual (dinar only) NO dollar* Well here we are in the END of JUNE.... Hang on Folks... This could get interesting!! Roll RV http://www.imf.org/e...2011/cr1175.pdf
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  31. It seems to me, if the 3 zeros are lifted from the IQD, then .00086 to 1 USD would change to .86 to 1 USD. If an Iraqi was being paid 234,000,000 IQD a year ($20,000 USD) before RV, then post RV he would be paid 23,400 IQD to equal $20,000 USD (or something similar). Today, both currencies are used, but because of the "fixed rate" of the Dinar, it takes a thousand times more Dinar to buy what a Dollar costs. (Hence, the 5,000 and 10,000 and 25,000 Dinar notes, instead of 1 Dinar, 5 Dinar, 10 Dinar, 20 Dinar, 50 Dinar and 100 Dinar. Even 1,000 Dinar were not needed with an abundance of 1 Dollar bills...) Isn't that how the IQD would adjust relative to the USD? If 3 zeros are being lifted, or the 1,000 to 1 exchange is being changed to essentially 1 to 1, then employment contracts in IQD would be adjusted to reflect the new parity with USD. Why couldn't large IQD in circulation co-exist for time as they get exchanged for smaller denoms? With the value of the IQD now equal with USD, it means you can use a 1 Dinar or a 1 Dollar note. The price of bread would not stay at 2300 Dinar, because then it would also cost 2300 Dollars. The Dinar would change relative to the Dollar, not vice versa. After an official RV, then Dinar in country could converted for Dollars according to the official exchange rate. All the Finance ministry has to do is broadcast the their national currency is now worth the same or MORE than the USD, the currency of their America conqueror. The proud Iraqi who wants all American gone, will gladly conduct business in Dinar exclusively, and charge a premium for Dollars if possible. Does that make sense? You cannot simply lop the value off a 5,000 Dinar without also lopping the value of a 100 Dinar note. If you did, the 100 Dinar note would be worth a fraction of a penny. Does that make sense? What does make sense is to change over to new value of currency, and therefor make the lower denoms worth something, and you only do that by making the large denoms worth much, much more. That requires exchanging for small denoms, and phases out the need to use USD 1, 5, 10, 20 and 100 notes. By making Dinar worth slightly more, there is no benefit to exhanging to USD unless traveling out of country. I also can see that after an RV making the Dinar equal to the Dollar, lowering the amount of Dinar necessary to buy products by a factor of about 1,000 to 1, the CBI could then turn around and increase the value of the Dinar by tripling the value relative to the Dollar....making it 3.60 Dinar to 1 Dollar. That would then give Iraqi's 3 times the buying power of before, so then if they were being paid only 23,400 Dinar a year, it would then be equivalent to $60-70,000 USD. Now that would make even those poor Iraqi much happier, putting them way ahead of inflation! This is just my humble opinion, I am not a college graduate, but I adhere to the KISS philosopy of life. God Bless America,,,,America, Bless God! Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/71731-central-bank-declares-its-readiness-to-start-deleting-zeros-from-the-iraqi-currency/page__st__60#ixzz1Q8BpE9Xk
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  32. Hi Bondlady Thank you for the work that you do. I personally believe that the person who needs to work on their attitude might be you? Drox was not at all demeaning to you, nor did he attack you. What he stated was true, and his response to you does in no way make him 'miserable'. What is troubling is the manner in which you completely avoided every detail that he asked your opinion about. I know that drox is not a 'miserable' person, and you have revealed much by the manner in which you responded, and the attitude in which you revealed by your childish accusation. It would be nice if you took the time to address his questions, without the added slap in the face at the end, which is truly both unprofessional and wrong. I think people expect a little more from you than what you just revealed and responded with. All my best! Jim ---
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  33. Bullet points from this radio blog Phoenix says that CBI stating that they are going to raise the 3 zeros (IMF demands it) that THIS IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE RV. He says in past that they’ve always said that they “were planning”, “had plans for” ,etc,but now they saying that they are “doing it”, that this IS the announcement!!!!!!!!!!! He says that IMF is watching them, that Paris Club is watching them, that they wouldn’t be saying this without it is going to happen, and soon. He says that CBI is always very careful, very measured, in what they say, and that this is a tremendous statement because it IS the announcement!!!!!! He is going to weekly shows after the rv, and he has cancelled his daily shows in July. He says that in the UAE, they said that they were going to rv, and they didn’t right away, and it was a big problem, because everyone hung onto their money, so there was a big currency problem, and the government finally had to come out and say that they were not revalueing the currency because of the immense problems that it caused in the economy, and that Iraq could not handle this kind of problem at this time. HE SAYS THAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT IS DONE AND JUST WAITING ON THE RATE TO CHANGE! HE SAYS THAT PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD ARE READING THE SAME THING THAT WE ARE READING AND IT WILL HAPPEN VERY VERY SOON!
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  34. I never post anything because I think most of this is hype. I was off this afternoon and I thought all day wether or not I should post this and knew that most would not believe me. I can tell you that it did happen, I did not prompt it, and this man told me his contract was only good if there was a revalued currency. Oh well that is just my two cents. He is leaving Friday.
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  35. I felt it was time for me to put in my two cents. A lot of other unqualified people seem to get to voice their opinion or their “facts” and “sources” so I felt I would share what I have learned, went through and experienced in my time in this investment. I have been in this investment only since October of 2010. I was introduced into this investment by my father who is a very successful business man and investor. Not every investment he has made has turned into wheel barrels full of cash to the bank but he has won more then he has lost. I believe you win some and lose some and I think any successful investor will tell you that. When educated briefly on this investment I felt an incredible amount of confidence in the information I was given. I am sure you all saw the dollar signs in your eyes and you were overtaken with excitement and joy like I was. All the things you were going to be able to do, all the people you would be able to help and all the places you could now choose to go. And there is nothing wrong with that! Why invest into something if you don’t see the potential like that or get feelings of hope and prosperity. The next part is where I learned my lesson and I hope none of you or very few of you fell into what I did. When this investment was brought to my attention I was given the basic facts. My dad didn’t tell me and my siblings about this so we could go put everything we had and all our eggs in one basket. My dad never invested that way and he sure as heck didn’t ever teach us to invest that way. But as we are all grown individuals we make our own decisions and it was up to me to do what I felt was best. And truthfully I made the worst decision I possibly could have made in this investment. The information I was presented with was the basic information of how the Iraqi Dinar got to what it was worth today and how it use to be worth $3.20 before the invasion of Kuwait. Obviously the information I was given expanded off of that but I was just given the basic history. After that I allowed all my hopes, education and decisions be influenced by “gurus” on the computer of the dinar world. It isn’t their fault and I am sure not all of them are pumpers but I am trying to now help as many people as I can to not fall into the same trap I did. Please keep in mind I am not blaming them every decision I made good or bad was my choice and my own doing. But I am sure like a lot of other people you aren’t educated in currency, other countries policies/procedures and have more confidence in other peoples “information” because they are “educated” or have top notch “sources”. If I would have consulted my dad first he would have advised me to not do what I did, but like most kids you think your way is better then your parents and I made my decisions based on emotions rather then logic. Most all the “gurus” were saying how the dinar was going to revalue anytime, at the latest right around Thanksgiving, Christmas or New Years. I was so convinced by the information and sources all the gurus were sharing to the dinar world I had to buy more dinar. It was going to revalue any day so I had to buy as much dinar as I could and do it as many different ways as possible to maximize my money. As you can see the greed just overtook me and there was no stopping me on my path to acquire as much dinar as possible. So, what did I do? Well I maxed out my personal credit line and bought millions and millions of dollars worth of dinar. I also took some money and did a few reserves because who wouldn’t loan me money to pay off the balance when the money was going to revalue any day for $3 plus. Well Halloween passed then Thanksgiving, Christmas and then New Years. But wait I still believed these “gurus” I still had faith in their information because after all they were the ones with “high level” contacts all throughout the world within different government agencies and on the ground contacts right there in the heart of Iraq. Everyone kept saying any day any moment just a few last details, or little minor hold ups and then the dinars going to revalue. Then I finally realized as I had no money left, I couldn’t afford to put gas in my car, buy food or I couldn’t pay any of my bills that I was basing everything I was doing on someone sitting behind a computer who I didn’t know. I was letting a screen name of someone on a dinar website to have so much influence on my thinking and decisions. How could I justify that to my family? The companies or people I owed money to? Yeah, but dinarguru123456 (made that name up) said it’s going to happen anytime. How ridiculous and immature could I have been to allow such an influence on my life? If the information these gurus’ posses were so accurate or correct don’t you think they would be spending their time and energy on the people they KNOW and LOVE? Why would anyone sit on the computer, host conference calls and devote hours of writing/talking to random people across the world they are most likely never going to meet? Really….. Think about that! If YOU had such classified information about ANYTHING a free concert, 75% off of clothes at a major retail store or a countries currency set to RV any hour and you could make millions, do you think you would hop on line and tell random strangers or tell the people you have REAL relationships with? Well most people who care about their character, morals and values would choose to share that information with their loved ones. Don’t get me wrong there are a lot of people in the dinar world who spend a lot of time in trying to restore the balance. And what I am encouraging you guys to do is try and separate your emotions from this investment and educate yourselves and find the avenues on line if you feel the need to be involved in that aspect that would cause the least amount of harm to yourself, your family and your wallet. That’s exactly what I did after making my mistakes. I decided to stop putting my hopes and dreams into the “gurus” and I decided I would do the best I can to educate myself on the dinar. I am not telling any of you to do this but this is what I did for myself. I went back and read news articles as far back as 2003 till now. I read not only on what’s happening in Iraq but what’s happening with other countries that have investment or a personal interest in what’s going on in Iraq. I have read about currency, the Forex, the stock exchange and etc. keep in mind this is all my own doing, I am not sitting in some college class listening to an instructor. But what I am doing is learning as much as I can as quickly as I can. Since around the end of January I stopped putting my faith and decisions in the gurus and guess what? A lot of those same “experts” are saying the same exact things they were in October when I was first introduced to the dinar. And guess what? People are still listening to them and making financial decisions based on them!! I know everyone wants to hear this investment is happening today or tomorrow! I am no different I want it to happen too! But I changed my thinking and I hope some of you adopt this thinking because if you do then you won’t be disappointed! I changed my way of thinking to the worst possible thing that could happen! What I mean is if this thing doesn’t actually revalue to the end of 2012 (haven’t really heard anyone say past 2012 and from my reading and educating myself I wouldn’t see it going beyond that time frame either) then who cares that’s the worst possible time it could happen. Or what if the dinar only revalues at $0.01? Then who cares that’s the worst possible thing that could happen. I am not saying to have the same expectations or opinions as me, I am just encouraging you to find the worst possible outcome of date and rate for yourself so you are prepared for that and if it happens sooner or RV’s higher then what you expected then great that’s just icing on the cake. Believe me I know the struggles of being in debt, out of work and feeling like there is no where to turn. But feel blessed and know there is hope because this investment is REAL and ONE day (maybe today, maybe in another year) it is going to revalue and it will change your lives. The only thing we can ultimately control is ourselves there is nothing you can do to influence the people in the decision making process of the RV to have this happen quicker. We really are small fishes in this investment compared to the grand scheme of things they are trying to accomplish in Iraq and the rest of the world. And as much as we want it to happen today in reality there is still a bunch of things left to accomplish in Iraq. From a completed government, issues with other countries, contracts with companies, the proper people in position to be able to handle the dominions that will start falling once there is a RV. As much as I do want it to happen I personally believe the longer it goes without happening, the more things that get accomplished in Iraq, the stronger the country becomes with a weak currency will justify and make the RV rate that much higher because the country has more things in place to support a higher currency. So, good things can still come by this taking longer then we would want. If you are fortunate enough to be able to purchase more dinar from now and until it RV’s then your bank account just got that much stronger, you can find ways to capitalize post RV in other areas if you position yourself now (maybe a bank account in Iraq, the stock exchange in Iraq, etc) it just made your investment portfolio that much stronger, it might make the RV rate higher because of more things in place! Who knows! But try and find the positives and try and give yourself the most amount of opportunity to be successful once this blessing does take place. Take a break from all the hype, Intel and rumors please do yourselves that favor. I know I walked away from the online dinar world for a few months until I knew I would be able to remain emotionally unattached to people’s predictions. I know for myself I needed to RV my priorities, values and commitments I had in place. A lot of you have family and other things that DESERVE your attention and every second you sit on line crossing your fingers, or putting all your energy into the online dinar world is just taking away valuable time and efforts from the people who love you. And I know in my case anyway it wasn’t fair to them and they certainly didn’t deserve that type of disrespect. We always try to justify things for our benefit but there is no way IMHO you can justify pouring all your efforts on line if you have people depending on you. Just something to think about anyways….. Mr. Whomp Whomp
    4 points
  36. I kind of got lost when the sheet was draped over the cage, the magician waved his wand, the sheet was removed, and the blonde assistant had disappeared.
    4 points
  37. Correct Easy, also the dinar did not lose value due to hyperinflation, the UN crushed the dinar which had a false value created by Sadaam. It was devalued so iraq had no purchasing power. It was a punishment. Saleh is the BS minister. Dont get too upset.
    4 points
  38. Bottom line is everyone is speculating and no one knows what will happen.
    4 points
  39. I DONT BELIEVE ITS SMOKE... ITS RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE BUT IT DOES SAY OVER A LONGER TERM SO THERE MAY STILL BE SOME HOPE. OUR BEST HOPE IS FOR A LOW RV AND A CASH IN PERIOD...
    4 points
  40. YOU CAN'T FIX.......................STUPID!!!
    4 points
  41. As a conservative, I was against the war also, at least the US involvement in the war. I do think it was a just war (Saddam was a despot who killed his own people) - it was just not OUR war. The nations around him who truly were at risk should have taken care of him. He was no real threat to us, in my opinion. So although I disagreed with President Bush strongly on the war and his reasonings and even the way that he did it, at least he went through Congress which he is Constitutionally required to do- and I do think he is an honorable man. Honorable men can be wrong. I believe he truly felt for the young men (and women) who lost their lives for this sad excursion. For all the bad press he has gotten, it would be truly ironic if his Dinar plan helped restore the USA and helped change the world in such a profound way. You've got to give men their due.
    4 points
  42. Great post...I agree with you...They make me sick also!!!!!!
    4 points
  43. Two things: First is that I'm going to tell you a short story. This little story was posted by me elsewhere (can't remember which thread), so I'll just say it again here in the hopes that more people will see it, and that I can give a little clarity and shed some light. Once upon a time ... ok, imagine that, by some miracle, you happen upon a $1,000 USD American bill. Doesn't matter how ... ok, let's say you find it on the street (like I said ... by some miracle.) Right now, you wouldn't be able to spend it as such, because those $1,000 bills have been taken out of circulation. It's not like you can go to the supermarket, buy a pack of gum and say, "Can you break this?" No, not so much. Even if you wanted to buy something for $999, they would still look at you funny because they'd think it's fake! No one has seen a $1,000 bill in ... how long? Like, ever, right? Now ... having said that, if you take that $1,000 bill to your bank, your bank would, in fact, break it, and give you ten $100 bills, or 100 $10 dollar bills, or any other permutation that bring you to your $1,000. You would STILL HAVE the thousand dollars ... just not THE BILL, because the $1,000 bills have been lifted from circulation ... which is another word for saying 'raised,' which brings me neatly to the second thing ... It's all in the translation from Arabic to English. The people who translate the posts into English, by and large, use euphemisms, analogies and other words for saying common words like 'REMOVE,' or 'take away'. English is not their first language. ARABIC is ... which is why we keep seeing that they're going to lift, or raise the three zero currency. They are removing the large bills from circulation ... a thing that DOES NOT AFFECT the bill's VALUE! GO RV !!!!
    4 points


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