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  1. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conference Call 3-10-11 Part 1 Darline states: Maliki's speech was to parliament today - they are working passing laws - he spoke about the 5 year plan with Kuwait and Iraq - Frank asks What did Shabibi said? He said he would adjust the exchange value of the dinar to equal the budget... it has been said often by Shabibi... Ration cards today - Iraq Econ Committee refused the proposal to put the supervision under old counsel so they want to leave it with the trade ministers... that's the hold up of the cards going out- they need to move the bad guys out of the way and they need the rate too! Guest on the call - was in Iraq for 34 months - she keeps in contact with many that she met while stationed there... a contact called her 2 days ago that works for one of the ministries - they spoke of the dinar - and he eluded that his Iraq "money" would be worth a lot more soon for when they arrive in the US to live. She states their work ethic is different than ours- they walk to work, get searched work a bit then they pray 5 times a day, then they take breaks and this is why it takes them so long to accomplish anything. Now she is getting calls they are even hearing on TV that their currency is about to increase in value. The Iraqi friend that lives here in the states, his family is still over there in Iraq... and they have not been paid yet nor do they protest as they feel its going to get ugly unless change comes. Frank opens with a song and a prayer... Darline gives an article: The Central Bank of Iraq adviser said on Thursday that the bank has succeeded in providing financial cover for foreign currency in addition to that he managed the success of price stability of the Iraqi dinar. - aknews.com - Darline states that Saturday Iraq will be visited by Tony Blair of England - Delta and Darline feel something is happening real SOOM... Frank has always said we need the GOI before Shabibi to release the rate.... so we know the authors and Kurds are in control - IMF UNSC and World Bank and Shabibi takes orders from THEM. Frank apologizes to everyone that he was in error he interpreted that last year Shabibi was waiting for a completed seated GOI to give rate but HE DOES NOT GIVE rate till he is told too... Darline said the GOI is only needed to cover up rate but not formally needed. - the Parliament is the gov structure and allows laws to be passed - does S need parliament - NO says Frank - but right now there is NOT enough of an GOI yet and does S need a full GOI seated? It is our opinion that the 3 ministers are active working now completely and In our opinion what we are seeing about them written is SMOKE, BOLOGNA. In our opinion the GOI is formed and M is not keeping the missing ministers in his pocket - he is keeping control of their power... Monday Ali will be on the conference call... The Emir of Kuwait visited M in January and he arrived and went home in same day...then he spreads the wealth - 2 years worth of food for whole country - how can you do this in a 12 month budget? Them M goes to see Emir quick visit - the next day the Emir gave out more money to the country again... 40% of their budget to the people after both visits. The Emir is coming back to bring papers to Maliki Monday - for him to sign - those papers are??? In Franks opinion the campaign in Iraq was to make amends to Kuwait to bring democracy to Iraq - it failed and make a prophet from Dinars to pay Kuwait - and Telabani in Dec asked Kuwait what ever you want we will do it and told that to the UNSC - Kuwait was raped in front of the world in the 90's - those responsible were not... We went after Saddam for what he did to Kuwait... Now Kuwait is in love with Iraq and sitting pretty and he is coming Monday to see M an he is bringing the final pieces of Chapter 7... Chapter 7 is full sovereignty to do what ever they want with their currency - the Emir will look like a hero... The US treasury is still there working and new laws began in January being made and yesterday they were introduced in the state of California...lots are happening and we are confused but lots is going on and nuggets are being shown like gold as to what they are doing.... This Coming Monday this may be a nugget too.... Kuwait and Iraq was so fragile and they needed to make up - THEY HAVE... Darline says in order for them to get the signature for the release of the BLANK does the BLANK need to be RV'd first? The GOI is established fully working and all the ministers are there - the control of the power - of Defense, Interior and Security... Darline asks why would a country like Kuwait give a signature to something that will set Iraq free who has not set Kuwait free cause they have not RI's their money...? Kuwait is asking for a piece of the oil pie... can't get a pie unless you RI and you cant RI unless the Emir signs the paper to set them free... without the RI the papers are worthless - the papers come first as its the keys to the shackles that will allow them to RI - we do NOT need the GOI but we need the EMIR to be pleased so he can tell the UNSC he is ready so the RI can happen... The whole ME is unstable and its all due to oil so it went up and now its stabilized at $100 mark - #1 in oil - Saudia Arabia is #1 in oil - Iran is # 2 and Iraq is # 3 - watch says Frank - Iraq will become # 2 today, tomorrow real soon.... Oil went down to $102 a barrel today. Part 2 Watch who moves up to # 1 in oil soon - Iraqi is said to be the safest in the ME - how ironic says Frank. The laws the US Treasury laws came out in January and it was just release yesterday to us to see. Today pay close attention to the Emir of Kuwait... Iraq TV talked about the Emir coming all day on the TV - to solve outstanding debt issues between Iraq and Kuwait and to set aside past issues between the two countries... TV said today Parliament is meeting with M to pass laws - quit wasting time and do it... Beginning of Feb the GOI officially met and they spoke to stop talking and pass the laws and the cabinet is positive and in an upswing... Darline said the 3 ministers - on the forum someone said they are referred to the 3 wise men.... Telabani was at the UN in Dec and he told Kuwait and we will do anything and in January the EMIR came to Iraq - they NEVER do that ever - now Feb and March things you and I want are happening for us with their visits - the Emir will be a part as Kuwait is heavily invested in Iraq. They have many contracts that need to be fulfilled by the new rate... They can join the WB and WTO but what good will it do with used toilet paper as their currency- they wont have any voice or any right to vote or any prestige with no authority - NONE so they need their currency to be internationally recognized they need Chapter 7 and sovereign - I am asking GOD please consider to allow this to happen when you want it to so be it - I pray help the people of Iraq and I say for us too Iraq and Kuwait have worked out a 5 year plan to resolve their issues - so there is no need for chapter 7 - what else would they be bringing to sign? Kuwait wants Iraq to RV due to the contracts signed and due to the piece of the pie of oil they want.... Has Iraq satisfied Iraq enough - so Monday will tell the story... 99% of chapter 7 was signed off in December - the IMF and UNSC etc could finish it - but Frank feels that IHO - he feels they are making a side deal with the Emir and Maliki - I pray it is over the Chapter 7 - they will be free to raise their value when this is released... GOI is sitting and now the authors say they are in charge and Kurds are in control... Kuwait is the answer to our investment in Frank's opinion... 28th of Feb the green light was given to Shabibi to RI the Dinar... Why has he not done it? Is he waiting for April 30th - waiting for changes with the IMF- maybe.. Next week is big - I do NOT trust Maliki - the authors are with him now - all things needs to come to an end soon due to the inflation rising... Darline says that the article says today - the bank has succeeded in providing financial cover for foreign currency. Something is done and it is getting done and today M tells Parliament that its their fault that the protesters are protesting next week - what - they are mad at Maliki not parliament ... Darline says the WTO needs to be done by the 15th also... she feels that the 15th is important the WTO - USA budget is nest week - the authors are there and their buddy Tony Blair is coming and the Emir is coming so the 15th looks very promising... the combo of Kuwait and Iraq will be a good defense against Iran down the road - Kuwait will not give the keys to Iraq until Iraq pleases the world, Darline says that there is no way that anyone would give freedom to any one without a guarantee of a piece of their investment... Part 3 Frank feels this will be an RI - $3.22 to start but with the OIL today, its having to be recalculated now and the rate could be an RV of $3.86 the rate may be in high threes or low fours - the contracts I know of are in the high $3 range.... there will be a Saturday Parliament meeting - Delta should cover this.... Hilary Clinton will be in ME to discuss Libya... Fishman1969 - #10 says activation of economic forum in all areas will be discussed by parliament on Saturday - Frank what do you think? The Emir of Kuwait wants investments to flood Iraq cause Kuwait gets a commission on investments in Iraq - it would behoove them to RI so they can be introduced to the world or Kuwait will not make a penny... SMOKE today and Saturday's meeting they will cover 10 items and one being an economic plan - and CBI and S has this plan figured out and Kuwait is coming on Monday and Tuesday is the WTO deadline... Darline says that we could have our money ready by the 20th to have a party on a beach... Frank states Ali is grateful for all those that prayed for his wife that was in a auto accident and she is doing so fantastic due to the prayers - she was put on a ventilator and now she is home... Ali will be on Frank's conference call on Monday 3-14-11. Delta states that GWB is in Iraq according to a text message within the hour 9:30pm eastern time Thursday... Frank is going to find out now.. All the issues is going to come to an end with Emir's visit on Monday with a 5 year plan - finish the chapter 7 issues too. As a government of Iraq it will be important for them to be out of 7 and they can be sovereign at that point. The business to Kuwait getting business from Iraq will make him look like a hero... We got the National Security Counsel created for Allawi is different from the Minister of Security, Defense and Interior and Planning ministries We do have the GOI and now by the constitution they gave M a month to put these ministries together but he did not need all the ministries in in order for him to continue with the GOI only 50% was needed... and Shabibi wanted all the sensitive ones including the planning minister who reports the inflation so it was needed too... THE WB, WTO, IMF and CBI needs to see the GOI in in order to release the rates - M can stall those positions can be stalled for next 6 months if he wants to by law - yes pressure will come but technically he can stall... He has the control as Executive and to revalue before the ministers were in M would be in control which would be a bad thing - so getting the ministers in would help the control to not be in the hands of M... THE USA paid for reforming of the banks - they have to listen to IMF and World Bank to benefit Iraq and everybody- Iraq will never fail, thats why they are taking their time - win win situation... Today the parliament it was amazing to see such a change of the attitudes very happy and are passing laws very fast.... they have about 200 of laws to be passed - the GOI is the ministries - the parliament passes laws within the cabinet. Their vacation starts on April 13th and they will only take 2 weeks instead of 2 months - the parliament member gets $38,000 a month for their salary... Their 1170 rate is causing them to loose money - Today M threatened in a nice way all the ministries will get fired if they don't do a good job...that's why they are moving very fast to not be like Egypt - and if M does not show improvement they may take confidence out of him - very urgent and serious in parliament - no one heard about the budget anymore - They need to adjust the exchange rate - that's what we are waiting for... Caller from area code: 484 - Jim - Bush is he over in Iraq right now? Frank is waiting for the response from his team... Biden is not in Iraq but not in US either right now... Blair is headed to Iraq Saturday.... Delta says WOW WOW We will talk Monday about the new tax laws announced today....with Ali... Caller from area code: 859 - Rick - Biden is in Russia to help them get into the WTO - Bush, possibly could be in death valley with his family... caller feels that confirmation of this happening is proven IHO about today the USA GOV says how they are concerned about where and how our money is going to be handled. What do you feel Frank are the Iraqi they able to see past the delay that it is coming or will they continue to riot till they see results? Frank says the people now see that they are telling the people they will do what they promised and now the people will continue to demonstrate if they do not get what they want. Momentum will become more violent if this does not happen. Part 4 Caller from area code: Bill from Florida - Delta question - has M on Iraq TV - did he announce he would announce the 3 ministries - yes M has pressure to do this... Interior will be off Maliki's list and Security will be from Kuwait's list... He has to do this as there is lots of pressure on M right now - time frame is with in the next week he can't drag it out again... Caller from area code: 301 - Valentine - Emir and M would sit on Monday to sign papers - at that time the papers get signed to satisfied the Chapter 7 final issues - would that let Shabibi set his own rate - Frank says no he has to do what the authors of the plan say to do... they need the father's guidance to do this... Shabibi can't take over and change the rate.... Delta says they need 85% approval from the IMF members for the rate.... Shabibi should put the rate back to 70's 80's time frame at $3.22 and now that rate is worth about $4.00+ now - This caller asked could this RIDE be over next week or would we have to be over by April or more...? Frank said look at this phrase we came up with - the day you see Shabibi it may be the day you see the RI - lets see what he does - Delta says that the IMF update will be April 30th for the exchange rate so it has to happen before that date... but the pattern is the UN exchange rate changes last march 2010 and has not changed yet this year yet... March 1st came and went = the list on their site all the countries have changed already but not the Iraq currencies. Maliki told he authors to execute the plan - and now they will install the national currency and give it value. Frank states the day you see Shabibi, lets see what he does - and he has been missing for about 3 weeks...and last time he was seen he said they would add to the value of the Dinar - about 1 month ago ... $3.22 is Saddam's rate and it held that a while cause of the oil - but its not their true rate which was $2.40 to $2.60 true foundation rate... then add what the minister of finance added - $3.108 and then it would go to $3.86 and it will shoot to $4+ very quickly... Caller from area code: 919 Antonio - article 140 checks being distributed do you know of anything to farmers? Frank says he knows nothing - Delta says that the statements come n TV they will give away checks to those people but nothing solid came out about this.. no money at all - the CBI has the most of the money... RECAP from Darline: IMHO..................From today till Tuesday are HIGH ALERT DAYS............We have the the central bank article that is saying they have gotten the RV amount....we have M going to finish the economic plan and implement on Saturday....Parliament is meeting on Saturday and JMHO but the ministers MAY be announced.....THE Authors are in Iraq.....Tony Blair will be in Iraq on Sat.........The Emir of Kuwait is coming on Monday.........The UN Operational Rates are listed on 13th (sat) effective 15th Tuesday.............So in the RECAP all is in line to bring the coaster to a stop so we shall see........Stay alert, vigilant, prayerful, and BE ORGANIZED........ Call ends with a song by Je'sus and a prayer by Debtarheelgirl. Thanks to Barb_A for your assistance to me during the call. __________________
    14 points
  2. Finally he admits he is a MUSLIM and He WAS BORN IN KENYA.. You got to see it to believe it.. God help us all.. He said it. NO one twisted his own words.. What now CHRIS MATTHEWs
    13 points
  3. dude joined before you an has more post than you. how is that a newer person? piss in your own cereal, dont swing this way. this ride is coming to an end and pretty dang quick.
    12 points
  4. I know that you guys put out lots of intel and have "teams" combing through tons of info to try and find whats news worthy. Here is my question for you. Here we are, the dawn of ANOTHER deadline! THis time its the WTO deadline. All of you "gurus" insinuaite that in order for Iraq to have a world recognized tradeable currency they need to be in the WTO!!!!! And According you all of y'alls intelligence that date / "deadline" is this coming Wednesday! You all say that the RV must occur to be accepted into the WTO. So, here is my question for ya........Drum roll please!!! What makes you think they are going to meet this deadline? They have yet to meet one deadline, any deadline! So, what makes you think they will meet this one! Just trying to keep people grounded. I know that you won't post on this site because you have to play the politics. So just answer this question in one of your threads. Thanks
    11 points
  5. Yep it's Friday so no CBI auction ... I thought it worth posting the oil and metals though ... and here is why Obviously the Iraqis missed the wave that was set up for them ... Oil $106 ... Gold $1443+ ... Silver over $36.50 ... my ... my ... what a shame ... perfect waves don't come along often ... nice ones ... good ones ... but rarely perfect! The set up seemed surreal ... intel blocked (gag order??) ... news articles fit only to take to the out-house for ... well you get the picture ... al-Maliki actively trying to distract us so that we won't see Shabibi/the UST reps/CBI at work. More riots ... police and citizens killed. What a waste! As I typed this with only a half cup of coffee in me ... I realized that I was lightly humming the 1966 hit by the Mamas and the Papas ... "Monday, Monday" ... I chuckled and quickly switched to something only slightly more current ... the 1974 Jimmy Buffet hit "Come Monday" which seemed only right as it is more geographically appropriate for me. Still chuckling but remembering that they had missed another wave I began to go through the song list brought to us by other members here ... It's been Such A Long Time - Boston It's A Long Way There - Little River Band We Ain't Got Nothing Yet - Blues Magoos Celebration - Kool & The Gang Only The Strong Survive - Jerry Butler Sooner or Later - Grass Roots I Like Dreaming - Cliff Richards Fleetwood Mac - Little Lies Highway To Hell Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up Theme song from Beverly Hillbillies "Another One Bites the Dust" by Queen "Wouldn't It Be Nice" Beach Boys "Daydream Believer" Monkeys "They're Coming to Take Me Away" Bangles "Manic Monday" Money-Pink Floyd Help-Beatles Wont Get Fooled Again-The Who Patience-Guns&Roses Can't Always Get What You Want-Stones The Boomtown Rats...I don't like Mondays. Randy Montana, "Tuesdays Gone" Calloway - I wanna be rich Annie Lennox - Why Livin' On a Prayer - Bon Jovi And with that I had laughed my way into a better mood ... I realize that I didn't address a single news article today ... I just wasn't in to it ... if I've wasted your time I apologize ... I needed some encouragement and I wanted to set the tone for the weekend with my wife. Light ... fun! My thanks to Kc7zzn for setting up the poll that elicited these great musical ideas for entitling our journey as well as all of you who contributed above ... you made me laugh! A dear friend of mine recently accused me of posting some things on only "Sanka in a Dixie Cup" ... (a nice way of saying ... I had "phoned a couple in") ... and perhaps that is what I've done here. But if you needed to be encouraged and laugh a bit after a rough non-productive week watching clowns ... and this made you smile ... even a little ... then my time wasn't wasted here. Live ... love ... laugh ... smile! Peace to you all and a great weekend! Doc31 PS After my post yesterday someone did transcribe and post Frank26 chat ... thanks to all responsible including KTFM, Frank26, staff/group/etc and whomever put in the time to transcribe. www.cbi.iq
    10 points
  6. When the Music Stopped... (For those who are unaware: At all military base theaters, the National Anthem is played before the movie begins.) This is written from a Chaplain in Iraq : I recently attended a showing of 'Superman 3' here at LSA Anaconda. We have a large auditorium that we use for movies as well as memorial services and other large gatherings. As is the custom at all military bases, we stood to attention when The National Anthem began before the main feature. All was going well until three-quarters of the way through The National Anthem, the music stopped. Now, what would happen if this occurred with 1,000 18-to-22- year-olds back in the States? I imagine that there would be hoots, catcalls, laughter, a few rude comments, and everyone would sit down and yell for the movie to begin. Of course, that is, only if they had stood for The National Anthem in the first place. Here in Iraq 1,000 soldiers continued to stand at attention, eyes fixed forward. The music started again, and the soldiers continued to quietly stand at attention. Again, though, at the same point, the music stopped. What would you expect 1,000 soldiers standing at attention to do?? Frankly, I expected some laughter, and everyone would eventually sit down and wait for the movie to start. No!!. . . You could have heard a pin drop while every soldier continued to stand at attention. Suddenly, there was a lone voice from the front of the auditorium, then a dozen voices, and soon the room was filled with the voices of a thousand soldiers, finishing where the recording left off: "And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that our flag was still there. Oh, say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave, o'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave." It was the most inspiring moment I have had in Iraq , and I wanted you to know what kind of U.S. Soldiers are serving you! Remember them as they fight for us! Pass this along as a reminder to others to be ever in prayer for all our soldiers serving us here at home and abroad. Many have already paid the ultimate price. Written by Chaplain Jim Higgins, LSA Anaconda is at the Ballad Airport in Iraq , north of Baghdad . Please share only if you are so inclined. God Bless America and all of our troops serving through out the world.
    10 points
  7. The Polite Way to Pee During one of her daily classes, a teacher trying to teach good manners, asked her students the following question: 'Michael, if you were on a date having dinner with a nice young lady, how would you tell her that you have to go to the bathroom?' Michael said: 'Just a minute I have to go pee.' The teacher responded by saying: 'That would be rude and impolite, What about you Sherman, how would you say it?' Sherman said: 'I am sorry, but I really need to go to the bathroom. I'll be right back.' 'That's better, but it's still not very nice to say the word bathroom at the dinner table. And you, little Johnny, can you use your brain for once and show us your good manners?' Johnny said:'I would say: Darling, may I please be excused for a moment? I have to shake hands with a very dear friend of mine, whom I hope to introduce you to after dinner.' The teacher fainted!
    8 points
  8. I do believe that we will see this early next week. Maybe Tues. or Wed. The Kuwaiti premier is coming to town Monday. He is speculated to be coming to sign off on the final chapter 7 sanctions and then we really will be able to say that the rest of the world is not stopping them. At that point it will be all on them. I do feel like we will see this soon after Monday. I do not believe they can even try to RV until Kuwait releases them from the final sanctions, so here's hoping and praying. These are just my thoughts alone. No intel but that seems to be what they are hurrying up to pass laws this weekend for. I believe they are trying to be ready to do everything when those final papers are signed. So everyone have a great weekend and stay positive above all. Positivity conquers all.
    8 points
  9. You guys need to lighten up on puff26. If you know anything about Ray and Steve you know that they aren't lopsters. They obviously are talking about the new lower denoms that will be introduced as the higher denoms are removed. I'm not saying that I believe this source, but the message isn't the re denomination of the dinar but the RV of the dinar.
    8 points
  10. just figured it out. the IQD will Revalue on 21 December. 2012
    7 points
  11. DAMMIT, Look what those of you who voted for this man GOT! The enemy is at the helm and running us into the proverbial ROCKS. I do not possess enough knowledge to even begin to ask whats next? can he be arrested? Impeached? WTF he even swore an oath before the NATION with his HAND ON THE BIBLE!!!This video is REPULSIVE! Now I know why he bowed to the Saudi King and Kissed his hand! This makes me SICK to the very core of my being!
    7 points
  12. Hello Everyone, I have really missed reading DV for the last two weeks as I was in the Middle-East. Something strange is going on and I don't think Maliki or Shabibi is behind it. While I was there, I spoke with many, many Iraqi's about every topic including the Dinar. I watched countless of news reports from hundreds of Middle-Eastern channels that I didn't even know existed. Everything I heard and watched were quite different than what is being reported here in the States. There is something more to the Dinar not RVing and I wish I could put my finger on it. I remember several months ago economist were predicting oil to reach $120.00 a barrel and we are almost there. Hmmm! The Revolution in the Middle-East is being fueled by outside influences, not just in country. What I did observe is that the demonstrations in Iraq still had a civilized tone to them and were unlike Libya or Egypt, in spite of their horrible living conditions. Water from the sewers were up to the middle of their legs, streets were polluted with trash and the kids were playing in this mess. It was awful to say the very least. Borders from Iraq were being heavily monitored and they were not letting anyone come in or out unless you had legitimate clearance to do so. I even had to have my Iris scanned! Alot of things that I have read from these sites are just not the true picture in the M.E. For example, in Jordan, there were only approximately 25 people protesting after praying in the Mosque, yet when I watched CNN, it appeared to be thousands! Syria has been totally calm and could care less, going about life as usual. We will see if that changes. The Syrians are very happy with life there. Egypt has become a disaster. There are thousands and thousands of hard core prisoners that are roaming the streets and crime is on the rise. Trash and the stench will knock you off of your feet. I have never seen such unsanitary conditions as in Egypt. Streets have miles and miles of garbage piled up everywhere. There is no security and no real Government enforcing anything currently. Libya is a whole different story. In my opinion, this is where most of the U.S. and the West will be focusing on for the time being and I know the oil is playing a huge role in all of this. So, as far as the Dinar and Iraq, all I can say is I hope and pray something happens soon, because things just aren't adding up. Iraq is in a mess and there is absolutely no reason why this should not have RV'd by now. If Shabibi was the one in full control, I believe he would have done it by now. This is not just my opinion, but it is everyone's opinion that is an Iraqi. We all think that the Iraqi Government are just puppets for now. Shabibi could have finished this off a long time ago, so the real question is who and what is stopping him and why?
    6 points
  13. Come on people, these posts that speculate less that 1 to 1 rate is about as far fetched in my book as 6.00 is. Unless there is a 2 part RV thin who will gain. If the US is looking for tax dollars to fill in the holes then i fail to see where a measly 1.00 will help compared to what millions of Dinar cashed in will bring in taxes.......what will a 1.00 help in Iraq when all the other oil producing nations will be yelling and screaming because the US has been so instrumental in setting up this, so now we have all the oil producing nations yelling discrimination and favoratism. The world would laugh at the very thought of such a wimper. What would Kuwait say after they expressed their opinion to the UN and IMF to start out somewhere around what their's is. We got enough hatred in the world already why stir up some more. I just hope it RV's to a sensible rate for all involved.
    6 points
  14. I found this on DD's site, I don't go there that often, It is a rumor from Okie Oil Man. I like to beleive him and wish that this is a true statement but as I used to say in the Marines Semper Gumbie (Always Flexable). Dont let life take you for a ride, Take Life for a ride and show the bull the horns. "* Okie Oil Man Chat: G.E.T. 3/11/11 March 11th, 2011 01:12 pm · Posted in RUMORS (Dinar Revaluation) [OKIE_OIL_MAN] good morning America and ships at sea. First let me offer my prayers for all the victims of that horrible earth quake that is causing the tsunami waves and pray lives are spared. You should see publicly tomorrow (Saturday) the Intel furnished you Wed or Thurs be made public. Tomorrow the laws will be finalized and everything set in motion for the r/v (pending no more surprises) the complete Gov of Iraq will be announced. Also the Emir of Kuwait will sign the final papers of chapter 7 sanction release on Monday. The new news is the presence of US dignitaries and English representatives all now converging on Baghdad. There presence represents Intel within itself. Shabibi is ready to release the r/v at a moments notice and he is entirely in control with the Parliaments blessing–watch for a large celebration within the next few days in Iraq–will equate to celebrations held after being liberated. Now I repeat now is our time–just sit back and watch history being made in the next few days..my blessings to you all—–okie oil man [OKIE_OIL_MAN] I hope the ships at sea I was addressing also is still floating [OKIE_OIL_MAN] there are nothing but positive news coming out of sources and they are already counting their chickens (so to speak) [OKIE_OIL_MAN] this is a bitter sweet day with all going on–I considered not posting out of respect for those who are suffering but felt the news on the positive side may help subside the bad news–surely hope so— [OKIE_OIL_MAN] everything that happens has a purpose–all part of God’s plan–we just fail to read and understand his plan most of the time" I could not put the link to this site but it is located on DD's site in the rumor's section if you want to see for yourselves
    6 points
  15. Nighthk11 Chat: DV (Private Site) 3/10/11 10:30am March 10th, 2011 02:56 pm · Posted in CHATS & POSTS (Iraqi Dinar Info) Nighthk11 10:30 pst 3/10/11 10:21 AM [Nighthk11] Good Morning DV- Hope all are well- I would like to clarify some issues that I have read from some members- First and foremost- Maliki does NOT have the votes needed to get anyone “Selected” The reversal of the SFC along with the coming together of Allawi- Sadr- and Hakim have severely limited Maliki’s power- add to this 80 deputies that have basically said they will withdraw from parliament because of Maliki and his actions 10:22 AM [Nighthk11] All this indicate that he has gone too far and really incurred the ire of the politicians- so his power base is greatly diminished- If he wants to keep his job- He will play good 10:22 AM [chloe] SISTANI TOO NIGHT 10:23 AM [Nighthk11] Articles about “Banking Reform” and protection of bank assets is an IMF requirement- Shabs is closing the loop with the final regulations for IMF so that they can activate- Hence the “New Laws” in parliament for banking protection/Money Laundering 10:24 AM [Nighthk11] The WTO ascension is scheduled for 15 March with Iraq being the focus of this meeting on 25 March- so it would be advisable for their currency to be on the market before that date 10:25 AM [kelsguy1113] Nighthk11 is it important for them to have the currency dealt with before the 15th or are they going to wait till after? 0:26 AM [Nighthk11] There is currently nothing to stop this- new advice concerning US treasury rules for dinar holders is NOT an accident- they have prepared and are giving clear instruction for those who wish to cash in- It is simply control of the amount of dinar that is in the US- along with projected revenue for the gov’t and control of the dinar outside the Iraqi area 10:27 AM [Nighthk11] I would say the absolute drop dead date for the dinar to be international is prior to 25 March 2011- On that date the WTO meet is all about Iraq and it’s inclusion to the WTO 10:29 AM [Nighthk11] Their induction is absolutely necessary for them to proceed with re-construction and move to a free market economy- The hold up is as I said before these laws were not passed by parliament and they were not ready- that is why we are seeing them announced at this time- to forfill IMF requirements 10:30 AM [Nighthk11] I do not know Okie or any of the other people who are giving their 2 cents but some of their info is correct- 10:32 AM [Nighthk11] There has been talk of 2 RV’s for Iraq one inside and the world – This will not work because when the Iraqi people discover that outside Iraq the rate is higher- they will either riot or take their money to other countries to cash in- Iraq should have thought of this before- It is an internal matter 10:33 AM [Nighthk11] With Allawi and his council- watch what they do- Barzani is headed to Baghdad to get with maliki and Allawi to deal with the final aspects and breathe life into this council- everything is on track 10:33 AM [Nighthk11] watch what they do 10:34 AM [Nighthk11] This is no longer just about Iraq it is about the entire world and re-setting the world’s economies so that we have stability- 10:37 AM [Nighthk11] There should be some good news coming out of Iraq in the next few days that will lead us to have a good feel for what is really going on there and how close Shabs is to triggering the RV- Actions by the US Treasury should be enough to let all know just how close this thing really is 10:38 AM [Nighthk11] So I say again- watch what they are doing- the answer is there 10:38 AM [Nighthk11] Thanks BBL- All take care
    6 points
  16. I wonder why i get a (-) for showing what he said.. Must be a lib because you can't attack the substance to the story you attack the messenger.. COWARD...
    6 points
  17. It is believed that the "new dinar" that they are referring to are the lower denoms. FYI.
    6 points
  18. Re: $$ Central Bank of Iraq: Iraq has succeeded in providing cover for foreign currency $$ Enoch8 Today at 4:27 pm Enoch8 wrote:Had a couple requests to take a look at this article..... This title is certainly interesting..... however, in digesting the content, "Why do I get the feeling, whoever was reporting on this seems to be afraid to really say anything?" "The Central Bank of Iraq adviser said on Thursday that the bank has succeeded in providing financial cover for foreign currency in addition to that he managed the success of price stability of the Iraqi dinar." This sounds like an answer to the article from yesterday, "Iraq-Business News: Iraq May Legislate on Currency Exchange" My response to that article was that the banks seemed to be more concerned about liquidity and solvency, in the event of an RV, because by far the greatest cash flow in Iraq is foreign currency, I.E. USD and Euro, because they do not have but about $7 Trillion IQD in the whole country, unless they convert that liquidity, to digital. Let's say, the Central Bank of Iraq system, has half of that, which is only about $3 Billion Dollars, based in IQD, and the remaining Stock and Quasi Stock is in USD, mostly. {I know, this is a very rough estimate, but my bet is this is pretty close....close enough for giving this example, anyway.} The M2 is around $52 Billion, including all cash and digital, if I understand that right..... (could be off..... but again, good enough for this example.) Even if, Iraq is allowed 20% Fractional Reserve of the IQD, that means they can only support about $15 Billion USD worth of IQD, but have only $3 Billion USD worth of it to support that, (assuming they were able to digitize roughly 17 to 18 Trillion IQD), there are still 2 basic problems, they have. 1. IQD is not recognized internationally, so it would still have to be supported by USD, which is already being supported by the actual holdings of USD, which is also costing them a premium, for international transfers, because the IQD is not recognized. That alone represents a huge loss to the banks, in handling such transactions, as one would imagine, due to the premiums paid out to the larger international banks, for covering such activity. 2. The IQD held, does not hold any value of it's own, so the liquidity backed by IQD, is not valid outside of Iraq. If it were to become recognized, it would solve the first problem, but create a new problem, because there would be an immediate run on the banks, at the current rate of exchange, due to demands for international holdings. Why is this so? At the current rate of exchange, what little IQD is held by Iraq, would be consumed immediately, to demand for hard cash holdings, not to mention forex. Forex alone, runs about $4 Trillion per day. How long do you think, $3 Billion in IQD would last? I think maybe about the first hour of trade would cause a run and a bank holiday, at the current rate of exchange. So, what this article is suggesting, is that the CBI and Banks of Iraq, are certainly strong enough, to handle the transactions of foreign currency, but would not last even one hour, if the IQD became internationally recognized, at the current rate of exchange. Let's further this example, and suggest, that the entire amount of IQD in print, (based on news releases from CBI,) is 27 Trillion. Let us say, that Iraq could, (as if that were possible,) to buy back the entire cash supply at the current rate, (which is ridiculous, but let's just say for now, they could). The entire stock would cost them about $25 Billion of their existing reserves, which they could easily do and they would still have half of their foreign reserve left to easily support the entire 27 Trillion IQD. Here would be the problem: That is still only about $25 Billion worth of IQD, with only the Fractional Reserve ability, to place $125 Billion worth of IQD, into circulation, digitally. Again..... even with the entire supply, even if that were possible to recapture at the current rate, again, within the first hour of trading in the world market, there would be a run on the banks and Iraq would be left with no IQD left in their vaults, even because the people would grab it up, much less international trading. My guess is, nothing under a $1 to 1 IQD rate, could keep that from occurring, once the IQD is put on the open market. So..... this article is saying, they are strong enough to support the Dollar, but they could never support the IQD at the current rate of exchange. It has to be strong enough and with enough value, to stop a run on the banks, due to the demand. That is simple economics 101. Here is another way to look at this: If the CBI is strong enough to support the USD at $1 to $1 less a percentage, offset by the auctions, then it is also able to support a $1 to 1 IQD rate, unless the eternal demand is too great at $1.00, that there is still a run on the banks. My own calculations based on the MOP projections, would indicate, that for EOY 2010, the value would have to be set at a minimum of $1.36 in 2010, but closer to $1.75 for the years 2011 through 2012, which even then, many believe would still be to low, to fend off a run, because future speculation over the coming 5 years, shows that value to be about double that. Now, if that is so, and my own calculations are showing the 5 year plan value to be supportable at as high as $3.93, also based on MOP projections and calculations, along with the IMF Dejure Rate of $.00342 for EOY 2009, adding an additional $7 Billion to the Reserves from 2009 reports, should reflect a Real Rate of +/- $.00393 for EOY 2010. Drop the 3 zeros, means to shift the decimal 3 spots to the left = $3.93 REER. Now, here is why I am showing you this: If you have been listening to what people like Scooter or Rudy have been talking about, it would be a fair assumption, to say, world forex giants and multi international corporations, would jump on forex prices with the expectation of doubling or tripling their returns, but you would also have players driving down prices on those markets, if the rate is set too high, by playing the shorts on the market. That activity, known as 'Orbits' in circulation, is much of what sets the tempo and value, which is regulated by the amounts in circulation, proportionate to demand, but supported by the actual Reserves, of the Host Nation, supporting and backing that currency. If the price is too high, CBI and GOI have to sell of all their wealth to pay for their own paper, and they loose the value to inflation and have to destroy what they bought with their wealth. If it is too low, it is paid for buy the markets and does not cost them a dime, but they would have a run on the banks. So, what is a Bilderberger to do? The answer, is they have to come out at a value, that is just right, low enough to attract just the right amount of investors, that the market pays for the revaluation, yet high enough, to keep out, over-speculation, as to keep from having a bank run. My guess is, that would be about 1/3 to 1/2 of the projected 2010 amount of the REER, of $3.93. That is roughly $1.31 to $1.92, which is also consistent with the Qualitative vs Quantitative ratios of the percentage increases reflected in the Feasibility Study and the 5 Year Plan, of the Ministry of Planning. So...... this was a long explanation, in an effort to fill in the blanks, as to what the above article, is saying. They are saying they have the funds to continue using the Dollar and Foreign Currencies, as a banking policy for Iraq, but as we see, they are also saying, they need a Banking Law and Central Bank Law, of which both have been in Parliament already, and are among the 200 plus laws in Parliament, yet to be addressed and ratified. If you are confused about this, don't feel bad. I have been studying this for a full 7 years and am still struggling to grasp and comprehend the big picture. Much of what is going on with this, is still contained in 'Classified Documents' and is also a moving target, that changes daily. It is 'Live' and 'Fluid'. Be glad you are in this investment. I know of no better place to be positioned so far ahead of the curve. You are in the right place at the right time.
    5 points
  19. I believe this is our month! "March 2011 to see an RV... Based on all recent confusing news that we read daily, it is consistenly inconsistent but somewhat great!!! I hope that makes sense because thats exactly what it is... Bottom line, progress is being made... I have so much faith and based on my personal research, i'm 95% sure something great is getting ready to happen... Just wait and see!!! I'm not giving a day and i'm definately not giving a rate... Bottom line we won't be disappointed... the blessing is "almost" here!
    5 points
  20. The smoke and mirrors part is certainly believable. The rest . . . . I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks for the post, GasCan. Love your handle. Maynard
    5 points
  21. I got your back, your doing fine now. Peace.
    5 points
  22. If you listen to me with DD on DD's Radio Tidbits, my source has told me late 2012. I gave my reasoning on the call and it is too long to get into here. I am not attempting to promote DD, I am just sayin'. Dr. J My source did say 10/17/10 but on 10/7/10, my source told me it would not happen until 2012. I waited until 10/14/10 to share the news as I wanted it double and triple checked by my source. You can go back and read my posts in this board because this is where I announced it. In fact, DD was ticked off at me that I announced it here first and not with him. Again, I am not promoting DD, I am just sayin'. Dr. J I have a friggin' minus 15 because I have been SPOT ON up to this point. I am done with this site under 10/14/11, one year to the day that I predicted NO RV until 2012. On 10/14/11, I'll be back with a post..."HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW?!?!?!" See you all then 'cause nothing is happening until late 2012... Dr. J
    5 points
  23. This should be required reading for every man, woman, and child in the United States, Canada, the UK , Australia, and New Zealand .. 63 and I'm Tired By Robert A. Hall I'm 63. Except for one semester in college when jobs were scarce and a six-month period when I was between jobs, but job-hunting every day, I've worked, hard, since I was 18. Despite some health challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks, and haven't called in sick in seven or eight years. I make a good salary, but I didn't inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, there's no retirement in sight, and I'm tired. Very tired. I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to people who don't have my work ethic. I'm tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it. I'm tired of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace," when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family "honor"; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren't "believers"; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for "adultery"; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur'an and Shariâ law tells them to. I'm tired of being told that out of "tolerance for other cultures" we must let Saudi Arabia use our oil money to fund mosques and mandrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in America and Canada , while no American nor Canadian group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance. I'm tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate. I'm tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it off? I'm tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers, and politicians of both parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes, or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I'm tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor. I'm real tired of people who don't take responsibility for their lives and actions. I'm tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination or big-whatever for their problems. Yes, I'm damn tired. But I'm also glad to be 63. Because, mostly, I'm not going to have to see the world these people are making. I'm just really sorry for my grandchildren. Robert A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam veteran who served five terms in the Massachusetts State Senate. There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance to make a difference. " I'm 63 and I'm tired. If you don't forward this you are part of the problem.
    5 points
  24. Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution Regardless of any personal preferences (weather a Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever), I’m sure you’d be interested if the law applied to you would be different for those whom are suppose to represent you. That is why I passed this on to you. Monday on Fox news we learned that the staffers of Congress family members are exempt from having to pay back student loans. This will get national attention if other news networks will broadcast it. When you add this to the below, just where will all of it stop? 35 States file lawsuit against the Federal Government Governors of 35 states have filed suit against the Federal Government for imposing unlawful burdens upon them. It only takes 38 (of the 50) States to convene a Constitutional Convention. This will take less than thirty seconds to read. If you agree, please pass it on. This is an idea that we should address. For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that members of Congress could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn't seem logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly don't care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop. If each person that receives this will forward it on to 20 people, in three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one proposal that really should be passed around. Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: "Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States." Pass this along and be one of my 20. THANKS!
    5 points
  25. Received this in an email and thought I would share with you. I Believe... That just because two people argue, It doesn't mean they don't love each other. and just because they don't argue, It doesn't mean they do love each other. I Believe... That we don't have to change friends if we understand that friends change. I Believe.... That no matter how good a friend is, they're going to hurt you, every once in a while and you must forgive them for that.   I Believe....... That true friendship continues to grow, even over the longest distance. same goes for true love. I Believe... That you can do something in an instant that will give you heartache for life. I Believe.... That it's taking me a long time to become the person I want to be.   I Believe... That you should always leave loved ones with Loving words. It may be the last time you see them.   I Believe.... That you can keep going long after you think you can't.   I Believe.... That we are responsible for what we do, no matter how we feel.   I Believe... That either you control your attitude or it controls you.   I Believe.... That heroes are the people who do what has to be done when it needs to be done, regardless of the consequences.   I Believe.... That my best friend and I can do anything or nothing and have the best time..   I Believe.... That sometimes the people you expect to kick you when you're down will be the ones to help you get back up.   I Believe... That sometimes when I'm angry I have the right to be angry, but that doesn't give me the right to be cruel.   I Believe... That maturity has more to do with what types of experiences you've had and what you've learned from them and less to do with how many birthdays you've celebrated.   I Believe..... That it isn't always enough, to be forgiven by others. Sometimes, you have to learn to forgive yourself.   I Believe... That no matter how bad your heart is broken, the world doesn't stop for your grief.   I Believe.... That our background and circumstances may have influenced who we are, but, we are responsible for who we become. I Believe... That you shouldn't be so eager to find out a secret. It could change your life forever.   I Believe.... Two people can look at the exact same Thing and see something totally different.   I Believe... That your life can be changed in a matter of hours by people who don't even know you.   I Believe... That even when you think you have no more to give, When a friend cries out to you, you will find the strength to help.   I Believe... That credentials on the wall do not make you a decent human being. I Believe... That the people you care about most in life are taken from you too soon. The happiest of people don't necessarily have the best of everything; They just make the most of everything they have.  
    4 points
  26. Currency Auctions Announcement No. (1852) The latest daily currency auction was held in the Central Bank of Iraq on the 10-MAR-2011. The results were as follows: DetailsNotesNumber of banks15 Auction price selling dinar / US$1170 Auction price buying dinar / US$----- Amount sold at auction price (US$)165,254,000 Amount purchased at Auction price (US$)----- Total offers for buying (US$)165,254,000 Total offers for selling (US$)----- Exchange rates Dollar's exchange rates / in Baghdad markets Oil is off a bit from Tuesdays highs but still extremely painful at the pump Gold rolling downhill presently after running in a two day channel Zeroes ... near ... with cash accounting for 2.09M or 1.26% of the total I just sent my group last night's KTFM post. Tuesday's was very cryptic ... Wednesday he said that only the newbies would have a hard time understanding Tuesday's post. Not so. Wednesday's is a bit of a tease for Thursday's chat ... it did answer some questions ... but it was a tease. Now most of you know that I am indeed a fan of Frank26 but I'm going to complain just a bit this morning ... you see he has asked members listening to the Thursday chat NOT to post what was said. Here's my problem with that ... when I had lots of time I spent it scouring the news/net for info about the IQD RI/RV ... as does he ... hours and hours ... but when my wife comes home ... I'm not spending 30 minutes on a chat much less 1.5-2 hrs (or more) ... just not happening ... my relationship with my wife (next to God) is the most important thing in my life! I'm banking the time with her! Traditionally (Monday chat is still transcribed), I would read a transcript the next morning (thankful to those who recorded and transcribed) and I could cover it in 15-20 minutes tops ... and remain apprised of where his team was regarding intel/info/supposition etc. ... and I value that. And NO ... I'm not blasting or taking a shot at Frank26, his team, or KTFM ... as I appreciate them and their work immensely. I just think that this is a policy that they didn't think through completely. It might raise participation numbers, set records or whatever ... in practice it is counter productive for those of us serious about trying to stay on top of Iraq/IQD AND put our family above our investment. That said I would really appreciate it if that were to change ... as would the "hard core" portion of my group! OK ... enough of that ... I saw some requests for me and so forth the last couple of days ... the truth is this ... I didn't think I had anything to say that ADDS anything ... so I didn't! That's all. If I spend the time to do this I want to contribute in some way ... I hate it when my time is wasted ... I don't want to waste anyone else's. And ... the news the last two days (with a couple of exceptions mostly posted later in the day) just seemed like section B C D and even F of the local paper ... do you know what I mean? Nothing worthy of front page ... even on section B! They just didn't seem to be worth commenting on. Then almost simultaneously ... every bit of intel I had coming on three different fronts dried up! I know ... makes you wanna' go hmmmmmmmmm ... doesn't it? Let me look at this mornings news ... whoaaaaaaaaa ... that was scary ... I clicked the wrong button and ended up in the rumor section ... narrowly escaped ... OMGosh, you really need flame retardant underwear in there! Let me try again ... OK now that I have voiced my displeasure with not posting the Thursday CC I'm going to quote Frank26 and his team (I told you ... I like and appreciate them ... they just made a decision without thinking it out completely ... that's all). Frank26 and his team pointed out that al-Maliki is busy playing the clown doing everything he can to get your attention and draw it away from Shabibi (whom you haven't seen in a long while), the USTreasury reps, and the CBI ... and this mornings news would bear that out ... (he also said that when you see Shabibi again ... it will be time to do some serious praising and thanking!) A source reveals that al-Maliki will not submit candidates for the ministries of security today because of the many differences between his and blocks Al-Maliki establishes a new dictatorship. The government accused of deception on the same بالاستحواذ on public property Al-Maliki Demands the parliament more powers to remove ... and the list goes on. This one was voiced by one in my group as a huge problem ... Major oil pipeline sabotaged by insurgents ... I agree that it isn't optimum but it only transfers 1/4 of their exports ... additionally, I believe that it is one of three that they have (one through Syria and one to Basra) ... and will probably drive the price of oil up and possibly cover their loss of delivery by means of price. To me it speaks more to the fact that al-Maliki does need to "crap or get off the pot" ... just sayin'! Started to get all excited about this one ... The Central Bank of Iraq: Iraq, succeeded in providing a cover of foreign currency ... turns out it's another Mohammed Saleh article ... repeat don't believe until corroborated elsewhere Here's my favorite ... Deputy Prime Minister: Al-Maliki should resign if there is no response to the demonstrations. No wait ... this is Iraqi Federal Court standstill about independent bodies Oh ... Sam R. told me to give a shout-out to Alza C. ... hi Alza! That's all that I have time for this morning but I don't see anything else (yet) worth talking about. Peace to all Doc31
    4 points
  27. This was posted yesterday but nobody commented, isnt this the greatest news to be heard in years??? 10-03-2011 | (Voice of Iraq) – Political Bureau of the Community of the new Iraq 3$ per day for each Iraqi citizen and the abolition of the ration card one of the most requested proposals from the public to improve their standard of living is the allocation of the amount of ($ 3) for every Iraqi citizen a day, Maisawi (90) dollars per month, the family consisting of (5) members deserve (450) per month. With the abolition of the ration that drain the state budget in addition to reducing staff career and Labor is responsible for the ration card and the judiciary at financial corruption and administrative facilities for decades to ration materials, import and storage in the warehouses of the Ministry of Commerce and distributed to agents and manipulation in the type of material. Note that this amount will reduce the burden of the poor of Iraq, an amount not significant to the Iraqi state budget amounting to about ($ 90 billion) annually. The Political Bureau of the Community of the new Iraq http://tinyurl.com/4vynynp
    4 points
  28. This is an obvious fake. I mean come on! I want to know the truth. I don't want someone faking something to turn me against him. I want the truth to stand out. I want valid reasons for catapulting this lame president out of office, not something trumped up! Why lie about him? All the lies only cover the truth, and the truth is, he lied. Not about where he was from, but about his change. He didn't change anything. All the fatcats are still in place. All the polititions and still doing their little dances while they swipe our money. Get us to concentrate on their little conspiracy theories, while they make their backroom deals that only benefit them, and their buddies. <Deep Breath> Ok, I know I am a newb to this board, and I am probably gonna get bashed for this, but go ahead. If you would prefer that someone spoon feed you lies, instead of truth, then you are doing exactly what they want! (I still like you though)
    4 points
  29. Some knuckleheads just have no sense of humor. They want their precious ideals cradled. It's absurd you have so many negatives. I gave you a Plus 1 to try and reverse it.
    4 points
  30. That was good. But I heard some where between 3:22 and 5:74 am.
    4 points
  31. One of the frequent "thoughts" being posted in this thread seems to be the validity of deadlines, and what MUST be. And there are two ends to that tail. First what makes us think there is any requirement for the RV, made by anyone, Iraq or any of the alphabet soup organizations, that must be met before the RV can happen? Or the RV MUST happen before said organization will allow membership, or forgive debts, or in any way make nicey-nice with Iraq. I think for the most part it is all stuff that is posited by someone who knows just enough to be dangerous ... and is taking for granted certain things, deadlines and MUST do, for example, that just do not exist. they may be common sense but since when has common sense entered into any of this? But we believe them because we WANT to, we NEED to. It means that if there is some reason other than the whim of some Iraqi politician that is controling the date, or rate, then it must, it will, it absolutely cannot fail to happen. That would be a happy thing. Guaranteed Rv if only certain rules of deadlines are met. Now for the other side of this tail. If indeed the RV is not a valid assumption in regards to what others feel must happen, let us assume also therefor that Iraq, and Iraq alone, that being the self serving, inexperienced and badly counselled politicians of the GOI, are the only ones responsible for the RV. Why do we believe that anything they say they will do, any accomplishment they vow to achieve, any step they say is next, whether it be a law, or a ruling, or just someone's whim ... why do we believe it will be so? We have no proof, absolutley no proof, that any of these people will do what they say they will. Even Allawi, who I thought of as the best hope, the most honest of the bunch, if that word can apply to any of them, has become one of those who cries wolf at every turn. He is leaving to live in Britain, but then he is back and will take on a special job made just for him but then he doesn't get the cooperation he wants so he threatens to leave the GOI altogether but then decides to stay but not in the position they want him in but the threat is still there that he will up and leave. and so on and so on and ... you get the idea. So, why do we keep falling for the GOI following any of their scheduled progress or meeting any of their own deadlines? Because we WANT to. We NEED to. A lot of investments are occasions of making a decision to invest, putting money into the investment either in a lump sum or payroll deposit or whatever, and then walking away. Few investment actually give us, the investor, the opportunity to see, or think we see, what is happening at ground zero. How many other investments can be followed as closely as this one? Of course the information isn't always right but not because it starts out wrong. Along the way the Iraqi politicians back off or change their little timy minds (sorry, couldn't resist), or give in to some pressure internal or external, and even their own timelines go kaflooey and of course deadlines are not met. But this is the kind of investment we can watch, and get more involved in, even it if is only with words. And we do get involved, with words, and lots of them. Why? Because we WANT to, we NEED to. This is an investment that is so close, a very personal thing, much moreso than investing in a green fund or a handful of penny stocks or the kind of blue chips you buy, stick in the safe deposit box and forget about. This is a daily progress, or supposed to be anywaya, sort of investment. Most of us are not big time experienced investors. We are learning at one heck of a rate through this one though. Why? Because we WANT to, we NEED to. So keep up the discussions. Real discussions. Points to ponder, experiences to share, and hope to keep us all relatively sane. There are no guarantees in life, and no guarantees in this investment. But there is hope, and challenge, and we WANT that, because we NEED that. Good luck to us all ... smee2
    4 points
  32. Central Bank of Iraq: Iraq has succeeded in providing cover for foreign currency . Baghdad, 10 March (Rn) - The Central Bank of Iraq adviser said on Thursday that the bank has succeeded in providing financial cover for foreign currency in addition to that he managed the success of price stability of the Iraqi dinar. ـ". He said the appearance of Mohammed Saleh told the Kurdish news agency (Rn) that "the Iraqi Central Bank was able to success by providing a cover for foreign currency, notably in successful monetary policy and compatible with the nature of the Iraqi economy." ". He added that "monetary policy pursued by the Central Bank of Iraq focuses on the need to deepen the financial system in Iraq through the revitalization and modernization of a permanent Iraqi banks and other financial institutions." ". He explained that "the Bank is working according to the vision of monetary and financial fit with the nature of the Iraqi economy and consistent with the general structure of the international economy that Iraq follow the steps in the economic advancement of the World as part of the global economy, not isolated him." ي. The Central Bank of Iraq in the second of February last that the Board of Finance Sitoss payments in 2013, according to the plan developed by the Central Bank. . The central bank last week that the government and private banks began using the electronic clearing system. ة. And the World Bank allocated $ 10 million to restructure state banks and activate the electronic dealings. . Announced earlier in the unit restructuring Iraqi banks for that unit has been extended and banks for a period of one year because of security concerns.ة. Iraq had decided in early 2006 to restructure banks in order to get rid of heavy debt. . The Ministry of Finance of Iraq for its efforts during the next year to develop an integrated plan to develop e-government banks and financial relations in the activation of this aspect. 85 %. The Iraqi government is still limited in its financial transactions on the government banks approved by 85%. . And called on the Ministry of Finance earlier in the Iraqi Central Bank to take resolute action in granting licenses for the establishment of private banks. http://www.aknews.com/ar/aknews/2/223685/?tpl=advanced_search.tpl&S_type
    4 points
  33. ..you are either a braver, richer , smarter, or dumber man then me...i dont have anywhere near that invested and still come here everyday for my fix
    4 points
  34. CASH IN, PAY THE TAXES THEN, BE DONE WITH IT AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO ALWAYS LOOK OVER YOUR SHOULDER FOR BIG BROTHER
    4 points
  35. Don't bash me here. I want a straight out RV like we all do and no RD/RV allowed. This update just drains my energy to stay grounded but glad it was posted still the same. Before I poke holes in it I want to say.... I hope Adam is right that even though iqd may lop he doesn't think it will. I hope Adam is wrong and that it comes in higher than .10 on a usd. I hope Adam is wrong that it may take years to reach over 3.00..otherwise I may be too senile by then and mistaken my notes for 100,000 candy bars and mistakingly eat them. My take on the update.... >> Last Time our contact was there August of 2010.>> >> Our contact has many connections in and around Iraq, including inside the government. He said after another disappointing trip in Oct 2010 >> Hmmmm last time there was it August or October. Thank goodness there arn't any RV dates quoted we'd be back to square 1. Just this past Saturday after he had conversations with people over there he left almost immediately. He’s in Greece right now just in hanging mode for the word to come from Iraq to sign off..In addition, I’m working on a HUGE contract that I know is for Iraq, but its all hush hush if you know what I mean, and that it has come to a complete hault as of today!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hmmm So why did THING ONE run to Greece to expedite a trip to Iraq to await signing the contract and THING TWO's ...contract comes to a screeching hault? Shouldn't THING TWO complete it and join THING ONE in Greece? >>We were told that they were waiting on some things to come through to move forward.>> Hmmmmm...Well darn.LMAO LOL GOOD LUCK ON THAT WAITING THING..TAKE A NUMBER AND GET IN LINE BEHIND US.waiting on some things to come through to move forward... >>HUGE contract that I know is for Iraq, but its all hush hush if you know what I mean>> HMMMMM..No, I don't know what you mean, HUSH HUSH because HUGE contracts are about the only real news, currency speculators can find. HMMMM....Well shoot...maybe THING ONE should ask THING TWO , if he has any unused skymiles he could donate, seeing he may be stranded in Greece for a while because>>The Iraqi’s had to RV their currency, to reflect price on contract>>now the numbers are ALL wrong and there is only so many times ,you can tour Athens. >>All I can say is I’m not vested heavy in the Dinar, HMMMM....LMAO...OF course you're not!! and that little lead tells me its not too late for me to buy some tonight or this weekend!! >>I’ve read the rumors , and really don’t get to excited since MY life isn’t going to change with 200,000 dinar, but I didn’t want to post this info anywhere, but the above is true, which tells me The RV is coming very very soon. HMMM... I only invested what my family was comfortable doing and now the RV is very soon!!! OH WAIT!!! I could always chuck this months budget since the RV is upon us, skip a bill and buy more since 200,000 isn't going to change a life. >>At that Time, I never even gave Iraqi Dinar a second thought, (Wish I would of LOL). All >> HMMMM.....AGAIN....OF COURSE YOU DIDN'T, and AWWW I'm so sorry,...BUT ....We're so smarther than you, and we'll GO out and BUY SOME MORE right now because somehow its too late for you to buy more but not too late for us? Pleeezzzzze!! Oh I want this to be over and for so many reasons....GO RV !!!before I punch myself in the face...LOL Wishwell11
    4 points
  36. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT MALIKI IS NOT INTERESTED IN RV? (That is NOT his priority! ) WHY? Since nobody is saying it……. I will stick my neck out. M is only interested in staying in absolute control…….and if possible indefinitely! Consider this: 1) Over the last 6 years or so, he has stacked his cronies in the police the military and intelligence…. Journalists disappeared/killed; secret torture prisons to force confessions to collaborate as evidence to support his own political allegations,etc 2) Same with the media (especially TV station)…he controlled more than 90% of them. He recently shut down an independent station on some pretext! 3) Missing billions…probably a substantial part to create and maintain his personal power structure……. 4) Internal and international deadlines habitually ignored with impunity (whilst creating an impression each time that it’s being complied with….. (deliberately allowing dis-information for Intel to feed the experts and the gurus…..) 5) Whilst on one hand appearing to submit to the demands of the US, he has got in bed with Iran…… it’s lip-service at his best! 6) The US backed Barzani initiatives (since Oct 2010)to enable the formation of GOI by allowing Allawi to share political power is being dumped at the moment ….whilst at the same time giving the impression that he is trying to confirm the last 3 security ministerial appointments! He even recently objected to Chalabi from his own party! (Chalabi is not a “yes” man) 7) He even tried to take over CBI……through the Federal Court. 8) He put Shabibi in the bad light by apparently ( albeit quietly) instructing him to announce RV when the understanding with Shabibi is that the security of the country be assured with the expedient appointment of the suitably qualified candidate as minister FIRST….before RV can be announced publicly. (Not to be dubbed, Shabibi declined…) In short, M has 2 very powerful weapons at his disposal: 1) His complete control over the security forces (military, police and intelligence and to a lesser degree the judicial system) and the media (including TV) 2) His final decision on the RV……… being the PM. Therein lies his cunning/genius in: 1) deceiving everybody else with his empty promises with whatever excuses he can come with (remember, he controls the press……..etc) Hence, the procrastinations. 2) creating distraction when the heat is turned up on him by directing focus elsewhere. (Do you think the recent unrest at Barzani hometown is coincidental?) 3) setting the stage for his next move in this political show-and don’t tell. 4) changing his allegiance to suit his political plans (He may have not articulated it…..he realized his future is no longer with the US…) IMO, this is the bottom line: 1) The RV is his life-saver: He will only does it if he is assured of his control of his position as PM or if his life depends on it. 2) It would not surprise me if he exercises his default authority as the chief –of- staff and declare emergency if the oppositions foments widespread uprisings. He gets to stay on as the ultimate authority–by default. What’s more scary would be the terror plan to eradicate any more opposition under whatever pretext! Sorry, if this is an overly sober assessment of what I believe many many Intel failed to eventuate. Until and unless M is removed peacefully or otherwise………. we have to wait longer . With Allawi (and Barzani) out-maneuvered and Shabibi temporary outwitted, he will go about projecting himself as a statesman. There are indeed larger geo-political under-currents. Will leave it till the next time………. Suffice to say that M has greater ambitions that many (me included) have given him credit for. As a consummate chameleon, and awesome opportunist, I believe we are witnessing another power-mad but very cunning operator that will help mould the middle-east future…… Meanwhile, we have to wait and pray………………..
    3 points
  37. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki recently refused the demands of protesters for drastic changes in the political process, cancelling the elections and dissolving the constitution. He claims that Iraq has seen a marked progress in all provinces, most importantly in regard to the provision of funds for the ration card items. The Council of deputies will evaluate Al Maliki’s achievements through a period of 100 days to see if he’s right. What’s interesting is that he says that the state will most definitely protect any protesters, as it is committed to protecting public funds and property. He pointed out that the government has dealt with the demonstrations in a civilised, democratic and constitutional manner! What about those martyred while demonstrating on February 25? And why did the security guards use excessive force leaving three journalists injured? Last Friday, the government used the same methods adopted by Mubarak to cut off roads thus preventing protestors to arrive at Tahrir Square, in the heart of Baghdad — they cut off access to cross the bridge towards the Green Zone, which houses the headquarters of a puppet government and the largest US embassy in the world persists. All heads of tribes were warned of dire punishments if any member of the tribe participates in these hostile protests and the Baathists were the blamed for the mess. The Iraqi police surrounded the headquarters of the Communist party because some of its members were active participants in these protests and also coordinated with left wing parties. They demanded that the communist party should evacuate the area which they control during the American occupation. This great movement carried out by the young people who have had access to Tahrir Square, paved a way for a poetry festival and manifested in public art and outdoor collective songs — thousands of participants demand freedom and independence and accuse the government of looting the fortunes of the country. Stark contrast Despite strict security measures imposed by the occupation government, including imposing a curfew on cars and motorcycles and the closure of bridges republic (Sinak), which is the only access point for the Green Zone, it also prevented citizens from walking and closed the ports to prevent the numbers coming in as well as cordoned the areas with barbed wires. Around 500 government spies were left to roam along with the protesters warning them to evacuate Tahrir Square or to face dire consequences of death and killing without any mercy or pity. People’s Revolution wants a regime change ousting the US occupation and its political games in the region. The Iraqi people have realised the deception that they are facing by welcoming the US Army and the false promises they got of democracy, human rights and economic prosperity. The Iraqis have now discovered after eight years that these promises were a mirage — which has turned Iraq into a failed state governed by a set of sectarian and ethnic parties. This government couldn’t even live upto to its promise providing basic services like education or medical to its people. What is certain is that this ‘new Iraq’ is very different from all other Arab countries. For the simple reason that it is occupied. There is a presence of more than fifty thousand American troops with foreign security on its territory, and it is within the fortified military base. There is also the debilitating impact of corruption and unemployment. On Friday, February 4, hundreds of thousands of protestors walked calling for their basic rights that is taken for granted by others. On the ‘Day of Dignity’ rebel Iraqis raised flags and slogans shouting: ‘Liar, liar Nouri Al Maliki’, ‘Yes, to democracy and fighting corruption’, ‘Where is the oil money?’ ‘O Maliki … rubbish commander’, ‘People want to drop the puppet government’ with stark images of a finger amputated and writing in blue ink: ‘We regret’, referring to the farce called elections in Iraq. Iraq is a rich country. Its annual income is more than eighty billion dollars from oil exports, however, the majority of the population live below the poverty line. On the other hand, the privileged members of parliament get monthly salaries that are on par with or even more than their counterparts in Sweden, Switzerland and the US not to mention income through foul means. Al Maliki and his group are now convinced that the Iraqis are against them, especially those who made fun at the injustices that were done to the Shiites and respect given to the “Religious References”. They cannot justify that “Saddam followers” are scarecrows, especially the Muslim Shiite Arabs in the South who had been killed during Saddam’s regime. Most of the deputies of this farcical Parliament were not elected but were selected. Bahaa Alaragi revealed to the official channel Al Baghdadiya that only 16 deputies were instated in the parliament out of the 325 deputies elected. The revolution will inevitably triumph in Iraq like in other Arab countries like Tunisia, Egypt and Libya, and many more similar revolutions are expected in more Arab countries in the near future. The D-Day for Iraqis is Friday, March 11 in Tahrir Square in Baghdad. There’s been a clarion call for the entire country to march, protest and get heard on what they call the “Right of Friday.” Link - http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/iraqis-have-had-enough-1.772942
    3 points
  38. This is the man if you remember owed $250k in back taxes that he had to clear up prior to his acceptance to his current position. He is so disconnected to the real picture it is laughable at best. LOL.....He needs to read the world news a bit more to discover his printing more money makes no damn difference to the world now. JMO.....he is unqualified for the job he holds and in general is a complete IDIOT. Peace.
    3 points
  39. How bout Okie not posting anymore "intel" from "sources" because he's FOS!!!!!!! jus say'n........
    3 points
  40. Dude.................shuddup. RUMORS SECTION! Go Stand in the Corner. Nuff Said.
    3 points
  41. Bush is there to cash in on his dinars in order not to share half with Obama. Makes sense to me. This is a very good sign.
    3 points
  42. They party everyday at the White House........There not working they don't have to, we keep sending them money no matter what they do..........I know if I had money coming to me for nothing I would be partying all the time to......But I hope there is some truth to this rumor.
    3 points
  43. I still do not understand how people can support government controlled health care. I agree that things were once too much in favor of the doctors, and now they favor the insurance companies. To give someone else the authority to say what you deserve and what you do not deserve is outrageous. Yes, you can keep your child that refuses to get a job on your insurance until they are 26. Yes, you can go to a hospital and get service. What they do not tell you, and what most people fail to realize, is that the service you take for granted will change. An inflamed gall bladder that needs to be removed will be treated with antibiotics of the smallest power. And then when they don't work, it will be treated with a medium powered antibiotic. And if that doesn't work, it will be treated with a high powered antibiotic. And then when all of that fails they will schedule surgery - and how far out that is, will depend on your age. It will come from a book read by someone with a high school education deciding what to do with your illness based on percentages. So you have cancer that has a 10% survival rate? The survival rate is so small that it will be deemed unworthy to spend the cash to even attempt to treat that. Oh, your child has leukemia? Your grandmother broke her hip? Your 60 year old father had a heart attack? For the government to insist that you have anything, and we as the people allowing that, is opening the door for more control of our lives. Think about it. If the government insists that we all have health care because some people do not realize it's importance what's to stop them from going further? Oh, let's say that a study is ran and GM is deemed safer than Ford. The government steps in because they do not believe that we can make our own decisions and decides that everyone must have a GM car instead of a Ford. Guns kill people. The law abiding citizens do not realize this. So let's take away their guns. Most citizens can not add or multiply or are not smart enough to check out the nutrition facts on the back of a can of soda. So let's make the soft drink companies put the exact amount of calories on the front of a can. No, we don't care if they will pass the cost off to the citizens. Video games are desensitizing children. Let's get rid of them altogether. Marilyn Manson caused that kid to go in and shoot up that school. Let's get rid of all of that type of music. Ten years later, someone else gets elected, decides that if they can get rid of one type, let's get rid of every bit that pesky rock and roll. Bicycles are the #1 cause of spinal injury in children. Let's get rid of those while we're at it. Don't forget to earmark that bill and add trampolines and swimming pools because they are #2 and #3 on that list. Keep your right to choose. Bash away all you want. The one's bashing are the one's that want to control things because they feel you are not smart enough to decide for yourself anyway.
    3 points
  44. At this point and time im thinking RV realy does mean Recreational Vehicle
    3 points
  45. * Okie Oil Man Chat: G.E.T. 3/10/11 March 10th, 2011 01:54 pm · Posted in CHATS & POSTS (Iraqi Dinar Info) Mar 10 9:22 AM [janna] 8:32 AM [OKIE_OIL_MAN] good morning america and ships at sea–i am like dolly parton this morn–my cup runneth over–there are so much going on and has happened there are no place to start (but it’s all good). I am sure by now all is aware of the clarification from the us treasury regarding tax statues 988 and statue 525–that our investment being in the capitol gains has been recognized. From what i am getting the final seats of the ministrial depts are all settled –meaning–now the complete gov of iraq is formed and opens the door for shabbi to do what he stated in regards to re-valuing iraqi currency once gov is all complete.–another indication of the absolute immenence of this r/v occurring is iraq’s ascension to the w t o scheduled next wednesday. A prerequisite being–that iraq has an internationally recognized currency. Something of monumental importance that will be overlooked by those that have not been following closely the kuwait and iraq situation is that monday the emir of kuwait will be in bagdad monday–that tells us the rest of the story [OKIE_OIL_MAN] the last time the emir of kuwait was in baghdad he went home and gave the citizens of kuwait a lot of money–this time i think it will be the iraq’s that will receive the blessings–short wait time for us–i feel now through next wed will tell the tale–we are looking at the r/v right smack dab in the middle of the eyes. (okieism) [OKIE_OIL_MAN] i have it from a source in the us treasury banking committee that the usa has been working on the revisions and clarification of this rare occurrence since last september and just now felt a need to make public what needed to be clarified so we will know what to expect and how this will be handled so all dinars will be tracked and accounted for and also adding new tax payers to the system that may have in the past evaded taxes and will no longer be able to do so * DonnieR Rumor: don't promote other sites 3/10/11 March 10, 2011 01:56 pm · Posted in RUMORS (Dinar Revaluation) · Comments Off We have received word that we are very very close. It is extremely difficult at this moment to obtain any solid confirmed details as to when the RV is going to take place. We were told it’s not weeks any longer, it is hours or a few more days. Everyone needs to start preparing by contacting a CPA, Tax attorney, Financial Adviser etc. in order to cashing in a timely manner. Get busy folks, when Shabibi pushes that button I’m holding in my hand, we are off to the races and you don’t want to be left behind. Pray for the Iraqi people and our troops! Donnie Tags: no tags * CAGEtrucker Rumor: don't promote other sites 3/9/11 March 10, 2011 01:06 am · Posted in RUMORS (Dinar Revaluation) · Comments Off [CAGEtrucker] just got off skype call make your own decisions on it, treat as RUMOR if you want. Good things happened today he would not get specific but he said the visitor was the head of IMF he said it appears from all info they got from several places that we will see this on anytime from now to 3/14 and it will be in the 3/15 basket from IMF, not sure how that make sense but good news anyway. his interpretor told him the uncle in the GOI told him with the removal off all UN sanctions Iraq is ready to move forward. DO NOT shoot the messanger just sharing what I heard ok. THANKS [mikeysue4] Hawkster maybe you really are [4HisGlory] Robinredhed …ty
    3 points
  46. 1234 Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 26-January 11 Posted Today, 04:24 AM or Ali his business is in some type of trouble.. Fraud? It doesn’t take a Genius to steal from people, it just takes Balls look at Berne Madoff. Me personally I got into it when I got here so there wasn’t an outside influence for me just the knowledge of what happened in Kuwait. I took a look around and figured it was a gamble but what the H@LL I bet on worse thing before and they have blown up in my face. I often sit and think about who these people actually are and where they actually came from. Adam Montana and Ali are ghost’s in cyberspace I have never seen a picture of these men or talked to anyone who has. This could be my fault keep a very small circle of friends in the Dinar World. Mostly the ones that are always in trouble, or lurking in the background. The movie Scareface comes to mind when I think of Adam for some reason the main character Tony Montana and his motto The world is mine. How much of your world does Adam truly control? Another point that could be made here in the Middle East Adam is considered the first Man it is also used in the Turkish language to define males. Therefore, if you want to start a conspiracy I have just given you a few blocks to build with. Me personally I don’t think the Feds are in cahoots with the Iraqis to take anything from any of you I just thing you all spent to much time worrying about something that you can’t control. (ie the RV) it isn’t rocket science when these people have had enough they will make their voices heard. Then and only then will something be done to improve the lifestyle of the masses. Madman Out
    3 points
  47. Always planned on keeping it simple. Cash in, have money wired to my bank. Pay Uncle Sam his due ( I think this will be taxed as ordinary income, not capital gains, so that is what I am planning on). I am proud to be an American, and am grateful to have even had the opportunity to be a part of this investment, and will be more than happy to do my part to help reduce the ridiculas financial situation plaguing this country. After all, in prison I hear they barter with cigerattes, not money!
    3 points
  48. WARNING!!! DO NOT CLICK ON THE ABOVE LINKS!! PUMPER ALERT!!! NEWBIE ROBERT IS A POSER! i'm pretty sure wesley is out and doing what he wants too. check out his latest films at google... i'll pay what i have to but only what I HAVE TOO and i'm not paying anything without a fight... you can be a sheep if you want to. it's your right, and so is what i want to do. i am sorry to tell you this fellow dinar adventurer but THE FED is a private corporation. It originally came into prominence to loan Woodrow Wilson's GO money after the war. read his own quote about his circumstances... PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON: "A great industrial Nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the Nation and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world - no longer a Government of free opinion no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men". (Just before he died, Wilson is reported to have stated to friends that he had been "deceived" and that "I have betrayed my Country". He referred to the Federal Reserve Act passed during his Presidency.)
    3 points
  49. It would seem by your tone that you get YOUR news from Rachel Maddow or Chris "a chill is running down my leg" Matthews. No. Maybe it's Katie Couric or "even" Stephen Colbert... These are all extremely reputable and known to never skew the news. Give us a break.
    3 points
  50. I am NOT gloating...trust me, I am in this too! Weren't you one of the many bashers???? Dr. J P.S. Sorry, it is NOT happening on 11/2/10!
    3 points


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