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I have been dormant on the board here since November, lurking daily but not posting. I cannot give you hard intel as I have no sources, just 30 years of business experience as an owner and employer. I have this sneaking feeling that we are about to see everything come to fruition. Based on piecing together the puzzle here is my synopsis of why it should happen in the next 14-30 days max. 1. US treasury personnel in Iraq since middle of February: I believe they are there for 2 reasons, to help facilitate the RV/RI and to ascertain how many dinar are possibly inside the continental US after the value change. 2. The immediate banking changes that were revealed today are suspiciously geared toward investors like those who are outside the normal grouping of financial speculative, IE currency investors. Nothing is on the horizon that I can find in this economy to spur the changes in regulations except the possibility of a few million Americans having windfall profits. 3. Regulators know that in a matter of weeks the best and brightest planners will find loopholes in the new regulations. This expedites the need for the regulations to be closely placed to the event about to occur. They fully expect the rate to be at a level which will prompt a major portion of those invested to move to a liquidity position, cash out, rather than hold on for the possibility of saving several percent on creative financial moves. 4. The quick upswing of oil pricing is hastening the pressure on Iraq to do this while budgetary deficits will be overshadowed by record revenues. You can be certain that they are looking at the recent past spike to 150 per barrel and the subsequent reduction to 50 per barrel as a point of reference. Timing is everything when valuations may vacillate. 5. The information leaking, albeit slowly, as to Iraq's entrance as a full member of the WTO. While many current investors jumped on board due to the vague reference of the Kuwaiti RV the big boys look for more concrete evidence before moving in to this investment; IE entrance to the WTO. 6. The Arab Summit coming up in a few weeks time. Totally necessary for Iraq to enter the playing field not as a bottom feeder but at the head of the class. 7. Discord among the populace. Events in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Iran are fueling the process. You can guarantee the US has made their position clear that the welfare of the Iraqi citizen will be placated if they can provide substantial financial sustenance for the citizenry. 8. Activity among the providers of Dinar in the US. We are now seeing a major shifting from the top traders in dinar to focus on the RV/RI. These players would not be making the moves they are if they did not have some intuition that the game is about to end. I could give about 50 more reasons as to why we are closing in but I think you get the gist of where this is heading. Let's be patient and see what other events transpire over the next week. I for one would not be surprised to wake up in the morning and find out I need to alert my personal banker of an incoming transfer larger than usual!21 points
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I have noticed how the closer it seems an RV may occur, the more frustrated people are getting in their responses to such simple questions. All the poster wanted to know about a PREDICTED RATE, not a factual. Predicted meaning a guess. We can all guess and hope what a rate may be. What is the harm in saying "Hey, I predict from what I have read it will be anywhere from 10 cents to 10 dollars."? Why is it the ones who seem to have more experience in deducing information, are popular in their posts, and just plain popular here in the site say, "I believe in what I have read and calculated, the rate may be 1 dollar!", and get all kinds of pluses and "attaboys", and tons of thanks for making such a statement? Just because someone is learning and asks questions to learn gives no merit to be answered in such a way as to be told; "No one knows so stop asking stupid questions." In my opinion, that is rude and hurtful. But what do I know, I am still fairly new here also. I have watched people go from responding in a polite, cordial and respectful way to now being rude and thoughtless. If you don't like the question, why respond in such a disrespectful way? I miss the helpful and "let me point you in the right direction" responses. I know it is frustrating. More so for those who have been on this journey for a very long time. But stay the course and don't lose focus. If you attain such great wealth as you imagine the RV will deliver, and you are impatient and rude to others, will you then become the rich snob that so many people detest? I haven't invested enough to defend if I will or not, but I know it is not in my nature. I live by the most important rule my mother taught me: "TREAT OTHERS AS YOU WISH TO BE TREATED. LOVE LIKE YOU WANT TO BE LOVED. CARE LIKE YOU WANT TO BE CARED FOR." Sorry, I have just gotten disappointment overload seeing another rude response. Good luck to us all. May everyone's dreams and wishes happen as they imagine. David - SonOfAtomicVet18 points
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Currency Auctions Announcement No. (1852) The latest daily currency auction was held in the Central Bank of Iraq on the 10-MAR-2011. The results were as follows: DetailsNotesNumber of banks15 Auction price selling dinar / US$1170 Auction price buying dinar / US$----- Amount sold at auction price (US$)165,254,000 Amount purchased at Auction price (US$)----- Total offers for buying (US$)165,254,000 Total offers for selling (US$)----- Exchange rates Dollar's exchange rates / in Baghdad markets Oil is off a bit from Tuesdays highs but still extremely painful at the pump Gold rolling downhill presently after running in a two day channel Zeroes ... near ... with cash accounting for 2.09M or 1.26% of the total I just sent my group last night's KTFM post. Tuesday's was very cryptic ... Wednesday he said that only the newbies would have a hard time understanding Tuesday's post. Not so. Wednesday's is a bit of a tease for Thursday's chat ... it did answer some questions ... but it was a tease. Now most of you know that I am indeed a fan of Frank26 but I'm going to complain just a bit this morning ... you see he has asked members listening to the Thursday chat NOT to post what was said. Here's my problem with that ... when I had lots of time I spent it scouring the news/net for info about the IQD RI/RV ... as does he ... hours and hours ... but when my wife comes home ... I'm not spending 30 minutes on a chat much less 1.5-2 hrs (or more) ... just not happening ... my relationship with my wife (next to God) is the most important thing in my life! I'm banking the time with her! Traditionally (Monday chat is still transcribed), I would read a transcript the next morning (thankful to those who recorded and transcribed) and I could cover it in 15-20 minutes tops ... and remain apprised of where his team was regarding intel/info/supposition etc. ... and I value that. And NO ... I'm not blasting or taking a shot at Frank26, his team, or KTFM ... as I appreciate them and their work immensely. I just think that this is a policy that they didn't think through completely. It might raise participation numbers, set records or whatever ... in practice it is counter productive for those of us serious about trying to stay on top of Iraq/IQD AND put our family above our investment. That said I would really appreciate it if that were to change ... as would the "hard core" portion of my group! OK ... enough of that ... I saw some requests for me and so forth the last couple of days ... the truth is this ... I didn't think I had anything to say that ADDS anything ... so I didn't! That's all. If I spend the time to do this I want to contribute in some way ... I hate it when my time is wasted ... I don't want to waste anyone else's. And ... the news the last two days (with a couple of exceptions mostly posted later in the day) just seemed like section B C D and even F of the local paper ... do you know what I mean? Nothing worthy of front page ... even on section B! They just didn't seem to be worth commenting on. Then almost simultaneously ... every bit of intel I had coming on three different fronts dried up! I know ... makes you wanna' go hmmmmmmmmm ... doesn't it? Let me look at this mornings news ... whoaaaaaaaaa ... that was scary ... I clicked the wrong button and ended up in the rumor section ... narrowly escaped ... OMGosh, you really need flame retardant underwear in there! Let me try again ... OK now that I have voiced my displeasure with not posting the Thursday CC I'm going to quote Frank26 and his team (I told you ... I like and appreciate them ... they just made a decision without thinking it out completely ... that's all). Frank26 and his team pointed out that al-Maliki is busy playing the clown doing everything he can to get your attention and draw it away from Shabibi (whom you haven't seen in a long while), the USTreasury reps, and the CBI ... and this mornings news would bear that out ... (he also said that when you see Shabibi again ... it will be time to do some serious praising and thanking!) A source reveals that al-Maliki will not submit candidates for the ministries of security today because of the many differences between his and blocks Al-Maliki establishes a new dictatorship. The government accused of deception on the same بالاستحواذ on public property Al-Maliki Demands the parliament more powers to remove ... and the list goes on. This one was voiced by one in my group as a huge problem ... Major oil pipeline sabotaged by insurgents ... I agree that it isn't optimum but it only transfers 1/4 of their exports ... additionally, I believe that it is one of three that they have (one through Syria and one to Basra) ... and will probably drive the price of oil up and possibly cover their loss of delivery by means of price. To me it speaks more to the fact that al-Maliki does need to "crap or get off the pot" ... just sayin'! Started to get all excited about this one ... The Central Bank of Iraq: Iraq, succeeded in providing a cover of foreign currency ... turns out it's another Mohammed Saleh article ... repeat don't believe until corroborated elsewhere Here's my favorite ... Deputy Prime Minister: Al-Maliki should resign if there is no response to the demonstrations. No wait ... this is Iraqi Federal Court standstill about independent bodies Oh ... Sam R. told me to give a shout-out to Alza C. ... hi Alza! That's all that I have time for this morning but I don't see anything else (yet) worth talking about. Peace to all Doc3115 points
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Re: $$ Central Bank of Iraq: Iraq has succeeded in providing cover for foreign currency $$ Enoch8 Today at 4:27 pm Enoch8 wrote:Had a couple requests to take a look at this article..... This title is certainly interesting..... however, in digesting the content, "Why do I get the feeling, whoever was reporting on this seems to be afraid to really say anything?" "The Central Bank of Iraq adviser said on Thursday that the bank has succeeded in providing financial cover for foreign currency in addition to that he managed the success of price stability of the Iraqi dinar." This sounds like an answer to the article from yesterday, "Iraq-Business News: Iraq May Legislate on Currency Exchange" My response to that article was that the banks seemed to be more concerned about liquidity and solvency, in the event of an RV, because by far the greatest cash flow in Iraq is foreign currency, I.E. USD and Euro, because they do not have but about $7 Trillion IQD in the whole country, unless they convert that liquidity, to digital. Let's say, the Central Bank of Iraq system, has half of that, which is only about $3 Billion Dollars, based in IQD, and the remaining Stock and Quasi Stock is in USD, mostly. {I know, this is a very rough estimate, but my bet is this is pretty close....close enough for giving this example, anyway.} The M2 is around $52 Billion, including all cash and digital, if I understand that right..... (could be off..... but again, good enough for this example.) Even if, Iraq is allowed 20% Fractional Reserve of the IQD, that means they can only support about $15 Billion USD worth of IQD, but have only $3 Billion USD worth of it to support that, (assuming they were able to digitize roughly 17 to 18 Trillion IQD), there are still 2 basic problems, they have. 1. IQD is not recognized internationally, so it would still have to be supported by USD, which is already being supported by the actual holdings of USD, which is also costing them a premium, for international transfers, because the IQD is not recognized. That alone represents a huge loss to the banks, in handling such transactions, as one would imagine, due to the premiums paid out to the larger international banks, for covering such activity. 2. The IQD held, does not hold any value of it's own, so the liquidity backed by IQD, is not valid outside of Iraq. If it were to become recognized, it would solve the first problem, but create a new problem, because there would be an immediate run on the banks, at the current rate of exchange, due to demands for international holdings. Why is this so? At the current rate of exchange, what little IQD is held by Iraq, would be consumed immediately, to demand for hard cash holdings, not to mention forex. Forex alone, runs about $4 Trillion per day. How long do you think, $3 Billion in IQD would last? I think maybe about the first hour of trade would cause a run and a bank holiday, at the current rate of exchange. So, what this article is suggesting, is that the CBI and Banks of Iraq, are certainly strong enough, to handle the transactions of foreign currency, but would not last even one hour, if the IQD became internationally recognized, at the current rate of exchange. Let's further this example, and suggest, that the entire amount of IQD in print, (based on news releases from CBI,) is 27 Trillion. Let us say, that Iraq could, (as if that were possible,) to buy back the entire cash supply at the current rate, (which is ridiculous, but let's just say for now, they could). The entire stock would cost them about $25 Billion of their existing reserves, which they could easily do and they would still have half of their foreign reserve left to easily support the entire 27 Trillion IQD. Here would be the problem: That is still only about $25 Billion worth of IQD, with only the Fractional Reserve ability, to place $125 Billion worth of IQD, into circulation, digitally. Again..... even with the entire supply, even if that were possible to recapture at the current rate, again, within the first hour of trading in the world market, there would be a run on the banks and Iraq would be left with no IQD left in their vaults, even because the people would grab it up, much less international trading. My guess is, nothing under a $1 to 1 IQD rate, could keep that from occurring, once the IQD is put on the open market. So..... this article is saying, they are strong enough to support the Dollar, but they could never support the IQD at the current rate of exchange. It has to be strong enough and with enough value, to stop a run on the banks, due to the demand. That is simple economics 101. Here is another way to look at this: If the CBI is strong enough to support the USD at $1 to $1 less a percentage, offset by the auctions, then it is also able to support a $1 to 1 IQD rate, unless the eternal demand is too great at $1.00, that there is still a run on the banks. My own calculations based on the MOP projections, would indicate, that for EOY 2010, the value would have to be set at a minimum of $1.36 in 2010, but closer to $1.75 for the years 2011 through 2012, which even then, many believe would still be to low, to fend off a run, because future speculation over the coming 5 years, shows that value to be about double that. Now, if that is so, and my own calculations are showing the 5 year plan value to be supportable at as high as $3.93, also based on MOP projections and calculations, along with the IMF Dejure Rate of $.00342 for EOY 2009, adding an additional $7 Billion to the Reserves from 2009 reports, should reflect a Real Rate of +/- $.00393 for EOY 2010. Drop the 3 zeros, means to shift the decimal 3 spots to the left = $3.93 REER. Now, here is why I am showing you this: If you have been listening to what people like Scooter or Rudy have been talking about, it would be a fair assumption, to say, world forex giants and multi international corporations, would jump on forex prices with the expectation of doubling or tripling their returns, but you would also have players driving down prices on those markets, if the rate is set too high, by playing the shorts on the market. That activity, known as 'Orbits' in circulation, is much of what sets the tempo and value, which is regulated by the amounts in circulation, proportionate to demand, but supported by the actual Reserves, of the Host Nation, supporting and backing that currency. If the price is too high, CBI and GOI have to sell of all their wealth to pay for their own paper, and they loose the value to inflation and have to destroy what they bought with their wealth. If it is too low, it is paid for buy the markets and does not cost them a dime, but they would have a run on the banks. So, what is a Bilderberger to do? The answer, is they have to come out at a value, that is just right, low enough to attract just the right amount of investors, that the market pays for the revaluation, yet high enough, to keep out, over-speculation, as to keep from having a bank run. My guess is, that would be about 1/3 to 1/2 of the projected 2010 amount of the REER, of $3.93. That is roughly $1.31 to $1.92, which is also consistent with the Qualitative vs Quantitative ratios of the percentage increases reflected in the Feasibility Study and the 5 Year Plan, of the Ministry of Planning. So...... this was a long explanation, in an effort to fill in the blanks, as to what the above article, is saying. They are saying they have the funds to continue using the Dollar and Foreign Currencies, as a banking policy for Iraq, but as we see, they are also saying, they need a Banking Law and Central Bank Law, of which both have been in Parliament already, and are among the 200 plus laws in Parliament, yet to be addressed and ratified. If you are confused about this, don't feel bad. I have been studying this for a full 7 years and am still struggling to grasp and comprehend the big picture. Much of what is going on with this, is still contained in 'Classified Documents' and is also a moving target, that changes daily. It is 'Live' and 'Fluid'. Be glad you are in this investment. I know of no better place to be positioned so far ahead of the curve. You are in the right place at the right time.13 points
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"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness.....it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair..." This is but a part of Charles Dicken's "A Tale of Two Cities", perhaps the best opening paragraph of any literary work. He ends it with "In short, the period was so far like the present"..... So, here we are. Life sucks. People that have jobs probably hate them - live for the week-end, but dread Sunday nights. We, in general think poorly of the world, and, as such, think poorly of the people of the world. Yes, there are some great people who we interact with every day, or at least we hear about people doing great things. But, in general, we do not see too many, nor hear of their goodness. The media does not talk about the goodness of people very often. Why? They run a business and they feel that their readers and viewers only want to hear things that deal with "the winter of despair". Are we nearing Armageddon? People felt secure that we were not - one reason being is that "the Anti-Christ" hasn't appeared. Yet many felt this wasn't true because there was always George W. Bush to blame. He could be the Anti-Christ, but now even the most strident of all Bush bashers have had to back down because maybe he wasn't so bad, after all. Hillarious looked like a good candidate for the job, but when satan interviewed her, he thought she was too mean for the job, and that giggle/snort. But now, maybe there is someone coming to the forefront of our consciousness, someone who speaks in psycho babble, has dark hair, kind of athletic looking. He could be a movie star. Well, truth is he is, or at least was. yes, Charlie Sheen is the Anti-Christ. This is perfect casting, but he has a tough job ahead of him. You see, we are entering "the spring of hope". People are not mean spirited or uncaring (excluded from this are the ladies, who cut you off in their BMW's while using their cell phones). Most people are fantastic. Just look at this site. Look at the kindness; the caring that you can see through their posts. Oh, even the mean ones are kind of cool. The Dinar experience is coming to a close, All things are pointing to it. How about the new rules haded down to DT. Do you think the Feds would come up with all these new laws-to serve one purpose - fill in the loop-holes of not paying tax on the revaluation of the Dinar. So, it is coming. This week-end, a group of people have arranged for a pan cake breakfast for my grandson who has fought and beat leukemia. When I first heard of this, I thought how great. There will be donations of items and silent auctions. This would help defray the incredible hospital bills. My grand son in the past 16 months has had 100 operating procedures, over 400 doses of chemo. His many hospital stays would mean being tethered to a bed for 5 days each time, and every time I visited him he was bouncy, healthy and of good cheer. I knew he was cured because the best barometer of a person's physical status are not the tests, but the demeanor of the person himself. He would get shots in his thighs and wouldn't cry, maybe a tear would roll down his cheek. His courage has been like nothing I have ever seen. He will be two in April and he has already accomplished more in his life, given people hope-inspired far and above any one I know. His story has made the newspapers. Well, we are having this pancake breakfast - no big deal, except that they are now expecting over 2,000 people to come. So, don't tell me people are jaded or we are in "the winter of despair". Americans are looked upon as being greedy capitalists. I think you/we are great. By the way, his name is Noah. Thanks and remember that you will be blessed shortly. God will judge how you handle this blessing.13 points
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It is believed that the "new dinar" that they are referring to are the lower denoms. FYI.13 points
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As i read some of these posts on here about our responsibility to settle up with the IRS after the RV, most will do the right thing and pay whatever the percentage is and be happy that we were afforded this opportunity of a lifetime to be a part of. First let me say that i don't won't to pay a penny more in taxes than needed but i realize it is a part of life and one we can't escape from. True, our tax system is broken and it seems like it is one sided on who pays the most and who gets the breaks. Enough to aggrevate, YES. But think about it for a minute, the world's tax system has been corrupt since the time of Rome. " Jesus said render everything that is Ceasar's unto Ceasar and everything that is God's unto God. Do we have a choice, Yes, and with this choice will come consequences. 1. Remember what you had before you were able to be apart of this event. This made it possible to have dreams beyond any imagination we could of had before. The percentage of return on this investment is astronomical. Does it transform the mind, Yes, thoughts start creeping in '' HOW CAN I GET AROUND TAXES, HOW CAN I HIDE MY WEALTH FROM THE TAX MAN. DREAMS BECOME SATTLED WITH GREED AND CAN OVERPOWER COMMON SENSE. If you think the IRS will not tap you at some point you are badly mistaken. Most of the time they will wait a period of time after they have you on radar so as to achieve maximum interest and penalities which you will pay. Sounds like i am connected to the IRS don't it, NO, not me i have just taken time to write this so maybe a least one person will not be caught in such a mess. You cannot beat the tax man on this event. 2. Remember what i said earlier about where you are at before the RV and how much you are going to gain when this occurs. The gains of wealth will bless many and will afford dreams that was never thought possible, change the lives of many just waiting for a hand up. Now with that said i want each one to read this and think about which way you will proceed when the RV happens and taxes are due. We already know that the Govt. wants the taxes to be paid upon the transfer of this event monies any waiting period will gain interest. Should everyone check every avenue of investment yes, but let me say this.....The IRS will know who and how much when this happens. My theory is this. I am going to pay my taxes on whatever the amount is, will i like it "NO" but if i satisfy the IRS i won't have to fear an audit with astronimical interest and penalities, plus i can enjoy life without worry about the govt. taking everything i have because of stupidity on my part. I'll gret my teeth and give Ceasar what is due, because i have to remind my self, before the DINAR life was ordinary, after the RV life will be fascinating. Please, do what is legal and acceptable, don't play the game of greed to save from paying a few dollars that you wouldn't had if not for the Dinar. Take what you have after satisfying the IRS and have a good life. I quarantee it will still be more than you had to begin with......This is just my opinion, i do not want on the IRS radar, because they never let you off. Good luck to all in whatever you decide.12 points
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10:08 PM [Adam Montana] I'm only going to chat for a few minutes 10:09 PM [Adam Montana] then I'll take questions 10:09 PM [Adam Montana] from the MODS 10:09 PM [Adam Montana] the MODS will call the names of the people who are in line 10:09 PM [Adam Montana] then the floor will opn 10:09 PM [Adam Montana] with this many people 10:09 PM [Adam Montana] if you interrupt you get booted 10:09 PM [Adam Montana] sorry 10:09 PM [Adam Montana] 10:09 PM [Adam Montana] not really 10:09 PM [Adam Montana] 10:09 PM [Adam Montana] ok 10:10 PM [Adam Montana] first off I want to invite everyone to chat every Wednesday at 9CST from now until the RV (or bunny-ear) is announced 10:10 PM [Adam Montana] yeah, I said "l o p" 10:10 PM [Adam Montana] I'm not a sugar coater 10:10 PM [Adam Montana] I'm not here to pump up sales 10:10 PM [Adam Montana] and when things look grim, I'll tell you 10:10 PM [Adam Montana] i want to discuss two things real quick tonighjt 10:11 PM [Adam Montana] 1 is something I said a few weeks ago 10:11 PM [Adam Montana] about Egypt 10:11 PM [Adam Montana] I know everyone at the time said "Bah! adam you're on drugs what does Egypt have to do with Iraq?" 10:11 PM [Adam Montana] well 10:11 PM [Adam Montana] what does Egypt have to do with the US then? 10:11 PM [Adam Montana] i think by now you've all seen the gas prices 10:12 PM [Adam Montana] so obviously Egypt DOES affect us, and of course it affects Iraq even more 10:12 PM [Adam Montana] matter of fact... Egypt controls a major pathway for OIL, which is what 80% of Iraq's wealth hinges upon 10:12 PM [Adam Montana] ok so I said I wasn't going to sit and sugar coat stuff 10:12 PM [Adam Montana] the crisis in Egypt DOES affect us 10:12 PM [Adam Montana] BUT I have a silver lining feeling about this... 10:13 PM [Adam Montana] while I think it's delaying an RV that could possibly have happened already 10:13 PM [Adam Montana] the GOOD news is with gas so high 10:13 PM [Adam Montana] I think this could help the Dianr come out higher than I thought before 10:14 PM [Adam Montana] if you want to read more about how Egypt is affecting this situation, and why it might be holding it back - here's a link to get you started: 10:14 PM [Adam Montana] http://iqd.me/l/6y 10:15 PM [Adam Montana] sorry my copy-paster isn't working 10:15 PM [Adam Montana] must be the chat slowing it down 10:15 PM [Adam Montana] ok so that's my take on Egypt - it's affecting the progress but it's not a deal breaker 10:15 PM [Adam Montana] and although it might hold it up - it could actually bring the come-out value higher 10:15 PM [Adam Montana] ok 10:16 PM [Adam Montana] next thing 10:16 PM [Adam Montana] a lot of people are talking about this recent California issue 10:16 PM [Adam Montana] AB 2789 10:16 PM [Adam Montana] Sorry I can't copy-paste so it's going to take me longer to type the links 10:16 PM [Adam Montana] if you want to read the bill, it's at this link: 10:17 PM [Adam Montana] http://iqd.me/l/6x 10:17 PM [Adam Montana] basically it affects Money Transmissions 10:17 PM [Adam Montana] more specifically, it affects businesses that trade in money orders, etc 10:17 PM [Adam Montana] this could have a compound effect 10:18 PM [Adam Montana] which will make it tricky to do business with certain people in California 10:18 PM [Adam Montana] but it won't make it impossible 10:18 PM [Adam Montana] i think we all know what happens when legislature gets "tricky" 10:18 PM [Adam Montana] tricky = expensive 10:18 PM [Adam Montana] this is going to affect our spread, if it affects anything 10:19 PM [Adam Montana] I know certain dinar dealers have stated they will not charge a spread 10:19 PM [Adam Montana] but a spread will already be built in no matter what 10:19 PM [Adam Montana] so this affects our bottom dollar 10:19 PM [Adam Montana] there are several ways around this 10:19 PM [Adam Montana] VIP members, I will send an email shortly about how our partner banks and investment firms plan to help us 10:20 PM [Adam Montana] avoid extra fees due to the cumbersoem new laws 10:20 PM [Adam Montana] but my point is 10:20 PM [Adam Montana] this won't stop anyone from doing a ledger to ledger transfer 10:20 PM [Adam Montana] you're just going to be limited to certain "vendors", or businesses 10:20 PM [Adam Montana] which means they will charge more 10:20 PM [Adam Montana] but you will still be able to cash in 10:21 PM [Adam Montana] that covers most of it 10:21 PM [Adam Montana] VIPs grab the latest version of RV Intel at this link if you don't have it already: 10:21 PM [Adam Montana] http://iqd.me/l/rvintel 10:21 PM [Adam Montana] it's free for VIP members 10:21 PM [Adam Montana] mods, I'll do questions now 10:21 PM [Adam Montana] please call one name at a time 10:21 PM [Adam Montana] members, thank you for your patience! 10:22 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] Adam Montana #1 is Rayson 10:22 PM [Adam Montana] I know the chat goes slow with this many people 10:22 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] Rayson Rayson?? 10:22 PM [Adam Montana] Rayson shoot! Keep it short please! 10:22 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] 5 10:22 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] 4 10:22 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] 3 10:22 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] 2 10:22 PM [Adam Montana] Rayson if you need a second to type just say so 10:22 PM [Kit] Why can't we just cash in at Bank of America or some large bank? Won't all the large banks have the same rate? And isn't their fee built into the spread? 10:22 PM [Rayson] Are we able to get a hold of tax professionals that are familure with 10:23 PM [Adam Montana] anyone else who is already in line please pre-type 10:23 PM [Rayson] the Dinar pre RV in our area 10:23 PM [Adam Montana] but don't hit ":enter" until you are called 10:23 PM [Adam Montana] Rayson is that a VIP question? 10:23 PM [Adam Montana] I'll answer it but please no more VIP questions 10:23 PM [Adam Montana] we can do that in the VIP forum 10:23 PM [Rayson] TY 10:24 PM [Adam Montana] honestly, everyone here can find a tax professional 10:24 PM [LadyRo] Hi, First time here and I'm excited about it! Best wishes to all 10:24 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] done 10:24 PM [Adam Montana] anyone can find a tax professional that knows about foreign currencies 10:24 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] *****please read the header before typing******* 10:25 PM [Adam Montana] I have interviews MANY, and when you start getting to know the people in those fields that are experts in this matter 10:25 PM [Adam Montana] people pay for VIP because I have done this work 10:26 PM [Rayson] Do you have a list of them in our local area 10:26 PM [Adam Montana] so Rayson, the answer is Yes. Please post other VIP questions in the VIP section though, this is an open chat for all members and it's not fair to waste their time with these questions 10:26 PM [Adam Montana] next question please 10:26 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] Straightshot 10:26 PM [straightshot] We have heard it said that the Iraq can not /will not be accepted as member of WTO without an RV… is that true?… cite example(s) of other devalued currency(s) that are accepted by WTO…(?) thanks 10:26 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] Straightshot Straightshot Straightshot 10:27 PM [Adam Montana] Straightshot, i won't list examples because it's not true 10:27 PM [Adam Montana] common sense tells us that they won't get in with a worthless currency 10:27 PM [Adam Montana] and I think common sense tells us that the currency can't remain worthless forever 10:27 PM [straightshot] ty 10:27 PM [hurricanewayne] 833 in chat omg thats got to be a record 10:27 PM [Adam Montana] so to me this is a common sense thing 10:27 PM [happanne] Where do we access your investment opportunities? 10:27 PM [Adam Montana] happanne that's VIP info 10:27 PM [Adam Montana] next question please 10:28 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] tevye02 10:28 PM [markie] how much do you need to open a warka, minimum, Marc 10:28 PM [tevye02] Thanks for everything Adam - What do you or your sources think has to happen in the completion of the GOI for the RV to happen? Anything? what do we want to watch for in the news? 10:28 PM [Adam Montana] everyone please understand i'm not here to push VIP - I'm here to answer as many questions as possible in the time i have 10:28 PM [waitingondinar] adam what is left to be completed before they can finally RV??? 10:28 PM [Adam Montana] tevye02 good question 10:29 PM [Adam Montana] the GOI is so close to being completed I would have a hard time giving an exact answer to that! i think it's completed enough to have the RV 10:29 PM [Adam Montana] one pen stroke is enough to make it complete 10:29 PM [Adam Montana] but again 10:29 PM [Adam Montana] I'm NOT here to sugar coat this 10:29 PM [Adam Montana] when there is trouble in the Middle East 10:30 PM [Adam Montana] it affects the world 10:30 PM [Adam Montana] and Iraq is very much affected by it 10:30 PM [Adam Montana] if WE are seeing $5 gas prices 10:30 PM [Thankudad] pleasantvalleySunday have question 10:30 PM [Adam Montana] due to how scared the world is that we won't be able to get oil out of Iraq 10:30 PM [Adam Montana] why would iraq be allowed to get that "credit" they need to RV? 10:30 PM [Adam Montana] it won't happen until the crisis in Egypt simmers down 10:31 PM [Adam Montana] I know EVERY "guru" out there will say i'm wrong 10:31 PM [Adam Montana] but it's the truth, even if it's not the most pleasant thing to hear 10:31 PM [Adam Montana] now 10:31 PM [Adam Montana] it might be a week! 10:31 PM [Adam Montana] or it might be amonth 10:31 PM [Adam Montana] or it may be a little longer 10:31 PM [Adam Montana] but I don't think much 10:31 PM [Adam Montana] thanks for the question 10:31 PM [Adam Montana] next please 10:31 PM [tevye02] Thanks for the honesty adam 10:31 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] uncs 10:31 PM [uncs] adam so many questions, one guru says the 15th, one says the 18th, one says HCL must be done and do we know if the 3 positions are filled? does Ali get a heads up and what does his intel say! Thanks for your web site! 10:32 PM [Adam Montana] uncs thakns for the question 10:32 PM [uncs] thanks pleasant valley 10:32 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] 10:32 PM [Adam Montana] A lot of people are goign to get a heads up before Average Joe 10:32 PM [Adam Montana] but it won't be much 10:32 PM [uncs] what about HCL you think its done 10:33 PM [Adam Montana] Ali and other dealers like TD. DB, etc... myself and a few other people with large groups.... we might get a few hours notice before it hits the news 10:33 PM [Adam Montana] but that's the most 10:33 PM [Adam Montana] ok now about the HCL 10:34 PM [Adam Montana] that's a tricky topic 10:34 PM [Adam Montana] but I'll simplify it 10:34 PM [Adam Montana] It can happen either way 10:34 PM [Adam Montana] for those that are new 10:34 PM [Adam Montana] HCL = hydro Carbon Law 10:34 PM [Adam Montana] at the moment, due to some unfinished business and some unlifted restrictions, Iraq isn't able to export oil as a regular business 10:35 PM [Adam Montana] think about that - if a bread factory couldn't sell bread, what do they do? 10:35 PM [Adam Montana] exactly what Iraq is doing. 10:35 PM [Adam Montana] NOTHING 10:35 PM [Adam Montana] as soon as they get that license to sell, they are rockin! 10:35 PM [Adam Montana] now it works the other way too 10:35 PM [Adam Montana] money controls everything 10:35 PM [Adam Montana] and there's nothing that can't be fixed by throwing money at it 10:36 PM [uncs] what about the three positions you think tomorrow? 10:36 PM [Adam Montana] so if Iraq RVs and they have VALUABLE CURRENCY and CREDIT, the HCL can be lifted pretty quickly 10:36 PM [Adam Montana] regarding the positions 10:36 PM [Adam Montana] if you've kept up with the news 10:36 PM [Adam Montana] we're looking at this week or next for some major changes 10:36 PM [Adam Montana] in political seating 10:36 PM [Adam Montana] so we just need to be a LITTLE patient on that one 10:37 PM [uncs] do you think the UST representatives are still in iraq 10:37 PM [Adam Montana] friends 10:37 PM [Adam Montana] it's not like 2006 when there wasn't even a government 10:37 PM [Adam Montana] we HAVE it now! 10:37 PM [Adam Montana] we're not far off, we can't be 10:37 PM [Adam Montana] look at the whole picture 10:37 PM [uncs] thanks bro thanks all LOVE YA ALL 10:37 PM [Adam Montana] you'll see that Iraq has came SO FAR in not very much time. 10:37 PM [Adam Montana] ok next 10:37 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] dano2771 10:37 PM [Adam Montana] PVS you 10:38 PM [Adam Montana] are amazing 10:38 PM [dano2771] i like the thought of higher gas price = higher come out. IYO how long before we see the 3.22 benchmark? also where can we look for a letter of intent to rv 10:38 PM [allardj2x] what are UST repesentavies i am new to all this 10:38 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] tanks dear 10:38 PM [dano2771] ty 10:38 PM [Adam Montana] dano2771 ok that's a rate question 10:38 PM [Adam Montana] i won't give a prediction 10:38 PM [Adam Montana] BUT 10:38 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] allardj2x take notes and research 10:38 PM [Adam Montana] my opinion was always .10 to a dollar 10:38 PM [Adam Montana] with higher oil value, I'll raise my estimate a quarter or so 10:39 PM [Adam Montana] so how long until $3.22 - I'm saying 10-15 years after the RV 10:39 PM [Adam Montana] sorry to all of you that thought I'd say 3 weeks 10:39 PM [Adam Montana] next question please 10:39 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] Upgradable 10:39 PM [upgradable] With all the activity and instability in the ME, why has the US press completely avoided any coverage of the Iraqi demonstrations and related issues? 10:39 PM [dano2771] Adam Montana ty 10:39 PM [Adam Montana] dano2771 yw 10:40 PM [Adam Montana] Upgradable they're too busy watching Democrats not go to work in Wisconsin 10:40 PM [upgradable] 10:40 PM [fsavahge] is that all you can say? 10:41 PM [Adam Montana] I'm sorry I don't have a good answer to that one 10:41 PM [mlay901] pleasantvalleySunday I have a question, please add me to the list. TY 10:41 PM [Adam Montana] next question please 10:41 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] icfaith 10:41 PM [icfaith] Hi Adam. Thank you for your time. What was the actual date that Kuwait had their RV and what was the rate? I heard it was just a day or so long. Been trying to find it but never could. Thanks in advance. Also, I have enjoyed this room alot, thanks. Also thanks PVS! 10:41 PM [upgradable] There just seems to be such a blatent 10:41 PM [upgradable] n/m 10:41 PM [Adam Montana] icfaith good question 10:41 PM [icfaith] ty 10:41 PM [Adam Montana] I don't have it handy 10:41 PM [Adam Montana] but i have it in my book 10:42 PM [icfaith] which one please? 10:42 PM [Adam Montana] if you're VIP it's here: http://iqd.me/l/rvintel 10:42 PM [Adam Montana] if you're not VIp you can get it 80% off here: 10:42 PM [Adam Montana] http://iqd.me/l/80off 10:42 PM [icfaith] thanks Adam for a great site! 10:42 PM [Adam Montana] icfaith yw! 10:43 PM [Adam Montana] ok a couple more, we're pushing 45 minutes now 10:43 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] legggman24 10:43 PM [newmonies] with the US Treasury saying no ledger to ledger allowed: How do we transfer our dinar from us to warka account? 10:43 PM [leggman24] is the new us treasury rules what we have been waiting on for the rv to happen, or is that just a major sign that its coming really soon? thanks adam 10:43 PM [Adam Montana] I know we all have important stuff to do 10:43 PM [Adam Montana] or sleep to catch up on 10:43 PM [Adam Montana] leggman24 ty 10:43 PM [Adam Montana] which treasury rules? 10:43 PM [Adam Montana] my wife is a CPA I get buried with financial information every night 10:43 PM [Adam Montana] i need a link 10:44 PM [leggman24] its a new set of rules for cashing in. treasury updated march 2011. 10:44 PM [Adam Montana] areyou talking about the California law or something different? 10:44 PM [leggman24] no, its nation wide. 10:45 PM [Adam Montana] ok I don't want to answer unless I know exactly which code or rule you're referring to 10:45 PM [Adam Montana] feel free to post it in the forum if you find a link, sorry! 10:45 PM [Adam Montana] 2 more questions please 10:45 PM [Adam Montana] thank you all for being so polite 10:45 PM [leggman24] i saw them on db website. i will post it and get the link. thanks 10:45 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] double_duce_duce 10:46 PM [double_duce_duce] TY what is your intake on the L O P ? And did the UN lift the remaining sanctions? 10:46 PM [Adam Montana] I know many of you were hoping to hear "RV TUESDAY!!!!" and i appreciate that you all respect my stance. I won't do that 10:46 PM [Adam Montana] double_duce_duce it's a possibility, but I don't think they will do that 10:46 PM [Adam Montana] there's a lot of money to be made FOR IRAQ, not just for us. 10:46 PM [double_duce_duce] very true 10:46 PM [Adam Montana] the remaining sanctions are not completely lifted, i think there are 4 small sections that are still hanging on 10:46 PM [Adam Montana] these are small though 10:47 PM [double_duce_duce] Ty very much 10:47 PM [Adam Montana] i was VERY hesitant to make a prediction 3 years ago 10:47 PM [Adam Montana] today I am much more ready to say we are CLOSE! 10:47 PM [double_duce_duce] I was conserned about the rumors about l o p 10:47 PM [Adam Montana] thanks double_duce_duce 10:47 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] LAST but certainly not least ......skyview 10:47 PM [skyview] In the Iraq National Development Plan, Dated 2010, Page 57 says " The future strategy of the monetary structure is to continue improving the dinar's exchange rate in a gradual, studied manner, using indirect tools provided by monetary policy"...Might this preclude a sudden RV rate change? 10:47 PM [double_duce_duce] Tyvm for you time 10:48 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] we will start a Q & A thread for those who still have good questions 10:48 PM [Adam Montana] skyview i hope so!!!! I don't have it in front of me though 10:48 PM [skyview] I'll post a link of the plan in the forum 10:48 PM [Adam Montana] I hate to close on an answer like "i hope so" 10:48 PM [Adam Montana] but i don't want to keep everyone in here for hours 1 10:48 PM [teddybear] Adam, Your opening dialog could have been done on a FREE conference call service that holds 1,000 callers - want another 1,000 folks- just conference in another free line. I do this for a living. Contact me if interested in the resource. Yes, you can mute all caller lines. 10:48 PM [coorslite21] so one more 10:48 PM [rivertube] go dinar 10:48 PM [mordiaky] pleasantvalleySunday thought I was the first to go? what happen to my spot on your list? 10:48 PM [Adam Montana] i'd rather if you all went back to your families, snuggle with your loved ones 10:48 PM [Adam Montana] this will happen, we just don't know when 10:48 PM [Adam Montana] best regards all11 points
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Yeah, clearly i'd be the one w/ no friends. I was just trying to offer something that I hadn't heard before. If its already been posted and/or debunked, my apologies to all. I can't keep tabs on dinar every minute of day like some folks.9 points
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You guys need to lighten up on puff26. If you know anything about Ray and Steve you know that they aren't lopsters. They obviously are talking about the new lower denoms that will be introduced as the higher denoms are removed. I'm not saying that I believe this source, but the message isn't the re denomination of the dinar but the RV of the dinar.9 points
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You need to chill. He passed it on from DD and asked for no one to bash. It's ok, cause obviously you can't read, so let me help you! This section is called RUMORS. Don't know what it is? Go look it up! And he said he was simply passing information along. Oh, you don't like that? Well why don't you go take some Xanax and get off the forums, jerk.9 points
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IRRATIONAL, ILLOGICAL, IDIOCY. IT"S FOOLS LIKE YOU THAT HAVE GOTTEN US IN THIS MESS!!!9 points
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Hello Everyone, I have really missed reading DV for the last two weeks as I was in the Middle-East. Something strange is going on and I don't think Maliki or Shabibi is behind it. While I was there, I spoke with many, many Iraqi's about every topic including the Dinar. I watched countless of news reports from hundreds of Middle-Eastern channels that I didn't even know existed. Everything I heard and watched were quite different than what is being reported here in the States. There is something more to the Dinar not RVing and I wish I could put my finger on it. I remember several months ago economist were predicting oil to reach $120.00 a barrel and we are almost there. Hmmm! The Revolution in the Middle-East is being fueled by outside influences, not just in country. What I did observe is that the demonstrations in Iraq still had a civilized tone to them and were unlike Libya or Egypt, in spite of their horrible living conditions. Water from the sewers were up to the middle of their legs, streets were polluted with trash and the kids were playing in this mess. It was awful to say the very least. Borders from Iraq were being heavily monitored and they were not letting anyone come in or out unless you had legitimate clearance to do so. I even had to have my Iris scanned! Alot of things that I have read from these sites are just not the true picture in the M.E. For example, in Jordan, there were only approximately 25 people protesting after praying in the Mosque, yet when I watched CNN, it appeared to be thousands! Syria has been totally calm and could care less, going about life as usual. We will see if that changes. The Syrians are very happy with life there. Egypt has become a disaster. There are thousands and thousands of hard core prisoners that are roaming the streets and crime is on the rise. Trash and the stench will knock you off of your feet. I have never seen such unsanitary conditions as in Egypt. Streets have miles and miles of garbage piled up everywhere. There is no security and no real Government enforcing anything currently. Libya is a whole different story. In my opinion, this is where most of the U.S. and the West will be focusing on for the time being and I know the oil is playing a huge role in all of this. So, as far as the Dinar and Iraq, all I can say is I hope and pray something happens soon, because things just aren't adding up. Iraq is in a mess and there is absolutely no reason why this should not have RV'd by now. If Shabibi was the one in full control, I believe he would have done it by now. This is not just my opinion, but it is everyone's opinion that is an Iraqi. We all think that the Iraqi Government are just puppets for now. Shabibi could have finished this off a long time ago, so the real question is who and what is stopping him and why?8 points
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* Okie Oil Man Chat: G.E.T. 3/10/11 March 10th, 2011 01:54 pm · Posted in CHATS & POSTS (Iraqi Dinar Info) Mar 10 9:22 AM [janna] 8:32 AM [OKIE_OIL_MAN] good morning america and ships at sea–i am like dolly parton this morn–my cup runneth over–there are so much going on and has happened there are no place to start (but it’s all good). I am sure by now all is aware of the clarification from the us treasury regarding tax statues 988 and statue 525–that our investment being in the capitol gains has been recognized. From what i am getting the final seats of the ministrial depts are all settled –meaning–now the complete gov of iraq is formed and opens the door for shabbi to do what he stated in regards to re-valuing iraqi currency once gov is all complete.–another indication of the absolute immenence of this r/v occurring is iraq’s ascension to the w t o scheduled next wednesday. A prerequisite being–that iraq has an internationally recognized currency. Something of monumental importance that will be overlooked by those that have not been following closely the kuwait and iraq situation is that monday the emir of kuwait will be in bagdad monday–that tells us the rest of the story [OKIE_OIL_MAN] the last time the emir of kuwait was in baghdad he went home and gave the citizens of kuwait a lot of money–this time i think it will be the iraq’s that will receive the blessings–short wait time for us–i feel now through next wed will tell the tale–we are looking at the r/v right smack dab in the middle of the eyes. (okieism) [OKIE_OIL_MAN] i have it from a source in the us treasury banking committee that the usa has been working on the revisions and clarification of this rare occurrence since last september and just now felt a need to make public what needed to be clarified so we will know what to expect and how this will be handled so all dinars will be tracked and accounted for and also adding new tax payers to the system that may have in the past evaded taxes and will no longer be able to do so * DonnieR Rumor: don't promote other sites 3/10/11 March 10, 2011 01:56 pm · Posted in RUMORS (Dinar Revaluation) · Comments Off We have received word that we are very very close. It is extremely difficult at this moment to obtain any solid confirmed details as to when the RV is going to take place. We were told it’s not weeks any longer, it is hours or a few more days. Everyone needs to start preparing by contacting a CPA, Tax attorney, Financial Adviser etc. in order to cashing in a timely manner. Get busy folks, when Shabibi pushes that button I’m holding in my hand, we are off to the races and you don’t want to be left behind. Pray for the Iraqi people and our troops! Donnie Tags: no tags * CAGEtrucker Rumor: don't promote other sites 3/9/11 March 10, 2011 01:06 am · Posted in RUMORS (Dinar Revaluation) · Comments Off [CAGEtrucker] just got off skype call make your own decisions on it, treat as RUMOR if you want. Good things happened today he would not get specific but he said the visitor was the head of IMF he said it appears from all info they got from several places that we will see this on anytime from now to 3/14 and it will be in the 3/15 basket from IMF, not sure how that make sense but good news anyway. his interpretor told him the uncle in the GOI told him with the removal off all UN sanctions Iraq is ready to move forward. DO NOT shoot the messanger just sharing what I heard ok. THANKS [mikeysue4] Hawkster maybe you really are [4HisGlory] Robinredhed …ty8 points
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Ok gang, thought you might find this of interest. After seeing the new cash in procedures from DT and DB, I thought I would do a bit of investigating of my own. I went to Tampa Dinars site and clicked on cash in procedures. There was no change there. The site still said you could buy gold, said nothing about ledger to ledger transfers, or any of the other things we have been seeing today. I then decided to call them. The lady I spoke with was quite pleasant and I asked her if there had been any changes to their cash in procedure. She told me no. I then proceded to tell her what was being put out there by some of the other dealers. She asked me if I would hold for a moment and let her double check. After a couple of minutes she came back on the phone and told me that I was absolutely correct. She said her manager checked DB's site and it was true. Now my question to her was, "Why would you have to look at another traders site"? Why would you have not gotten the same info from the treasury dept? She was a little flustered and said she did not know. I then ended the call. Two minutes later, I went back to their site and guess what? Yep, the site is now showing the same info as the other two. So tell me friends; Are we now being directly pumped by the traders themselves? I hope I'm wrong and welcome your comments. Those of you who have read my posts should know, I'm not making this up. Whatcha think?7 points
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I got this email to DD off of the DD site and thought it was very interesting and worth passing on to you guys. Enjoy.... March 9th, 2011 10:08 pm · Posted in CHATS & POSTS (Iraqi Dinar Info) Hey daddy forgot to mention this in my last e-mail and its a Fact, our contact was called over by an Iraqi Official to come to Iraq to sign off, or get ready to sign quickly on the pending contracts we’ve got with Iraq. Now mind you, he’s been there 4 times last year, ready to sign off, and as the Dinar folks are feeling the frustration of the Iraq Government to stick to the plan, and commit, but they find excuse after excuse. Our companies have felt that same frustration. Last Time our contact was there August of 2010. At that time they actually told our contact that until the full GOI was in place, they wouldn’t move forward, the contracts that is. Our contact has many connections in and around Iraq, including inside the government. He said after another disappointing trip in Oct 2010 that he wouldn’t be going to Iraq again until he was invited personally, and that the following two things had to happen: 1.The Government had to be place (FIRMLY) 2.The Iraqi’s had to RV their currency, to reflect price on contract At that Time, I never even gave Iraqi Dinar a second thought, (Wish I would of LOL). All I knew is that he wouldn’t be going back unless those 2 things happened, and no contract would be signed. Just this past Saturday after he had conversations with people over there he left almost immediately. He’s in Greece right now just in hanging mode for the word to come from Iraq to sign off.. In addition, I’m working on a HUGE contract that I know is for Iraq, but its all hush hush if you know what I mean, and that it has come to a complete hault as of today!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were told that they were waiting on some things to come through to move forward. THAT WAS TODAY!!! They never told us what they were waiting for, but dealing with them the last year, they never do. LOL! All I can say is I’m not vested heavy in the Dinar, but vested a lot more is when the RV happens on the contracts that I’m associated with. Very big $$$ that will last monthly, and for years to come.. I’ve read the rumors , and really don’t get to excited since MY life isn’t going to change with 200,000 dinar, but I didn’t want to post this info anywhere, but the above is true, which tells me The RV is coming very very soon. I don’t know dates or rate. All I know is my personal dealings with Iraq, and I have more to gain with the RV to happen, then cashing in Dinars. My gain would be those contracts getting signed. You can put this in your own words if you want I think the Folks that have been waiting a long time for this to happen (again I’m in it 4 weeks). I think if they are patient a little longer, its coming!! Very, very soon actually. Thanks,7 points
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Eye brow pluckers are authorities on foreign currencies!7 points
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No doubt they are pumping the consumer. My feeling is this 99.9% of all rumors come from traders! Save yourself money and stop buying from traders. Use the US banking system.................7 points
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I agree, you sit on your smug A$$ and lob volleys at those of us that have taken the time to serve and ensure your rights to be an IDIOT! I fought and lived by phrases like "Death Before Dishonor" probably outside the realm of your vocabulary or Guts, for some of us it is a creed to live and die by. You DAMN right I protest and speak up about things with our government that are dead wrong and daily robbing us of our basic rights and freedoms that were promised in the constitution. You make me sick. JMO FFS. Peace.7 points
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Nighthk11 Chat: DV (Private Site) 3/10/11 10:30am March 10th, 2011 02:56 pm · Posted in CHATS & POSTS (Iraqi Dinar Info) Nighthk11 10:30 pst 3/10/11 10:21 AM [Nighthk11] Good Morning DV- Hope all are well- I would like to clarify some issues that I have read from some members- First and foremost- Maliki does NOT have the votes needed to get anyone “Selected” The reversal of the SFC along with the coming together of Allawi- Sadr- and Hakim have severely limited Maliki’s power- add to this 80 deputies that have basically said they will withdraw from parliament because of Maliki and his actions 10:22 AM [Nighthk11] All this indicate that he has gone too far and really incurred the ire of the politicians- so his power base is greatly diminished- If he wants to keep his job- He will play good 10:22 AM [chloe] SISTANI TOO NIGHT 10:23 AM [Nighthk11] Articles about “Banking Reform” and protection of bank assets is an IMF requirement- Shabs is closing the loop with the final regulations for IMF so that they can activate- Hence the “New Laws” in parliament for banking protection/Money Laundering 10:24 AM [Nighthk11] The WTO ascension is scheduled for 15 March with Iraq being the focus of this meeting on 25 March- so it would be advisable for their currency to be on the market before that date 10:25 AM [kelsguy1113] Nighthk11 is it important for them to have the currency dealt with before the 15th or are they going to wait till after? 0:26 AM [Nighthk11] There is currently nothing to stop this- new advice concerning US treasury rules for dinar holders is NOT an accident- they have prepared and are giving clear instruction for those who wish to cash in- It is simply control of the amount of dinar that is in the US- along with projected revenue for the gov’t and control of the dinar outside the Iraqi area 10:27 AM [Nighthk11] I would say the absolute drop dead date for the dinar to be international is prior to 25 March 2011- On that date the WTO meet is all about Iraq and it’s inclusion to the WTO 10:29 AM [Nighthk11] Their induction is absolutely necessary for them to proceed with re-construction and move to a free market economy- The hold up is as I said before these laws were not passed by parliament and they were not ready- that is why we are seeing them announced at this time- to forfill IMF requirements 10:30 AM [Nighthk11] I do not know Okie or any of the other people who are giving their 2 cents but some of their info is correct- 10:32 AM [Nighthk11] There has been talk of 2 RV’s for Iraq one inside and the world – This will not work because when the Iraqi people discover that outside Iraq the rate is higher- they will either riot or take their money to other countries to cash in- Iraq should have thought of this before- It is an internal matter 10:33 AM [Nighthk11] With Allawi and his council- watch what they do- Barzani is headed to Baghdad to get with maliki and Allawi to deal with the final aspects and breathe life into this council- everything is on track 10:33 AM [Nighthk11] watch what they do 10:34 AM [Nighthk11] This is no longer just about Iraq it is about the entire world and re-setting the world’s economies so that we have stability- 10:37 AM [Nighthk11] There should be some good news coming out of Iraq in the next few days that will lead us to have a good feel for what is really going on there and how close Shabs is to triggering the RV- Actions by the US Treasury should be enough to let all know just how close this thing really is 10:38 AM [Nighthk11] So I say again- watch what they are doing- the answer is there 10:38 AM [Nighthk11] Thanks BBL- All take care6 points
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IF YOU CAN READ THIS WITHOUT LAUGHING THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU. ONLY A MAN WOULD ATTEMPT THIS... Pocket Tazer Stun Gun, a great gift for the wife. A guy who purchased his lovely wife a pocket Tazer for their anniversary submitted this: Last weekend I saw something at Larry's Pistol & Pawn Shop that sparked my interest. The occasion was our 15th anniversary and I was looking for a little something extra for my wife Julie. What I came across was a 100,000-volt, pocket/purse-sized Tazer. The effects of the Tazer were supposed to be short lived, with no long term adverse affect on your assailant, allowing her adequate time to retreat to safety...?? WAY TOO COOL! Long story short, I bought the device and brought it home... I loaded two AAA batteries in the darn thing and pushed the button. Nothing! I was disappointed. I learned, however, that if I pushed the button and pressed it against a metal surface at the same time, I'd get the blue arc of electricity darting back and forth between the prongs. AWESOME!!! Unfortunately, I have yet to explain to Julie what that burn spot is on the face of her microwave is from... Okay, so I was home alone with this new toy, thinking to myself that it couldn't be all that bad with only two AAA batteries, right? There I sat in my recliner, my cat Gracie looking on intently (trusting little soul) while I was reading the directions and thinking that I really needed to try this thing out on a flesh & blood moving target. I must admit I thought about zapping Gracie (for a fraction of a second) and then thought better of it. She is such a sweet cat. But, if I was going to give this thing to my wife to protect herself against a mugger, I did want some assurance that it would work as advertised. Am I wrong? So, there I sat in a pair of shorts and a tank top with my reading glasses perched delicately on the bridge of my nose, directions in one hand, and Tazer in another. The directions said that: a one-second burst would shock and disorient your assailant; a two-second burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a major loss of bodily control; and a three-second burst would purportedly make your assailant flop on the ground like a fish out of water. Any burst longer than three seconds would be wasting the batteries. All the while I'm looking at this little device measuring about 5" long, less than 3/4 inch in circumference (loaded with two itsy, bitsy AAA batteries); pretty cute really, and thinking to myself, 'no possible way!' What happened next is almost beyond description, but I'll do my best. I'm sitting there alone, Gracie looking on with her head cocked to one side so as to say, 'Don't do it stupid,' reasoning that a one second burst from such a tiny li ole thing couldn't hurt all that bad.. I decided to give myself a one second burst just for heck of it. I touched the prongs to my naked thigh, pushed the button, and... HOLY MOTHER OF GOD. WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. WHAT THE... !!! I'm pretty sure Hulk Hogan ran in through the side door, picked me up in the recliner, then body slammed us both on the carpet, over and over and over again. I vaguely recall waking up on my side in the fetal position, with tears in my eyes, body soaking wet, both nipples on fire, testicles nowhere to be found, with my left arm tucked under my body in the oddest position, and tingling in my legs! The cat was making meowing sounds I had never heard before, clinging to a picture frame hanging above the fireplace, obviously in an attempt to avoid getting slammed by my body flopping all over the living room. Note: If you ever feel compelled to 'mug' yourself with a Tazer, one note of caution: There is NO such thing as a one second burst when you zap yourself! You will not let go of that thing until it is dislodged from your hand by a violent thrashing about on the floor! A three second burst would be considered conservative! A minute or so later (I can't be sure, as time was a relative thing at that point), I collected my wits (what little I had left), sat up and surveyed the landscape. * My bent reading glasses were on the mantel of the fireplace. * The recliner was upside down and about 8 feet or so from where it originally was. * My triceps, right thigh and both nipples were still twitching. * My face felt like it had been shot up with Novocain, and my bottom lip weighed 88 lbs. * I had no control over the drooling. * Apparently I had crapped in my shorts, but was too numb to know for sure, and my sense of smell was gone. * I saw a faint smoke cloud above my head, which I believe came from my hair. I'm still looking for my testicles and I'm offering a significant reward for their safe return! PS: My wife can't stop laughing about my experience, loved the gift and now regularly threatens me with it! If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!6 points
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I think its mandatory to buy more Dinars every time Okie gives us a time frame!6 points
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O.M.G., I'm rich! Silver in the Hair Gold in the Teeth Crystals in the Kidneys Sugar in the Blood Lead in the Ass Iron in the Arteries And an inexhaustible supply of Natural Gas. I never thought I'd accumulate such wealth. Have a wonderful day !!6 points
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Always planned on keeping it simple. Cash in, have money wired to my bank. Pay Uncle Sam his due ( I think this will be taxed as ordinary income, not capital gains, so that is what I am planning on). I am proud to be an American, and am grateful to have even had the opportunity to be a part of this investment, and will be more than happy to do my part to help reduce the ridiculas financial situation plaguing this country. After all, in prison I hear they barter with cigerattes, not money!6 points
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There is lot of speculation all over DV today questioning the integrity of the new regulations put on line by many dinar sellers sites. Implying "pumper talk" My thoughts.... I find it very hard to believe any dealer let alone Ali would post information about government regulations unless they are true? He has a multi million dollar organization, One lie would damage his credibility to all who have purshased from his company and any future relationships with his banks. It would diminish his standings as a buyer to the US treasury starting false accusations from quoting false government information.... Your thoughts?6 points
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I believe the email said, "getting ready to exchange the current dinar for the new dinar". Not saying it is true, but seems like you are jumping the gun a bit. It is a rumor, just treat it like one and move on.6 points
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To be honest, I wasn't impressed with the chat. There was nothing said that I personally have not heard before. 10 - 15 years to get to 3.22? No way!!! This would put the IQD in the same arena as other currencies that have virtually no value at all. Consider that Iraq has an oil reserve in the billions with only about 30% of the country being surveyed, gas reserves that are through the roof, gold, garden of eden, babylon, the only country with two rivers for import and export, actual farm vegetation , artifacts from the beginning of time and EVERY country in the world biting at the bits to help rebuild, the support of the World Bank, IMF and the UN, not to mention that their financial structure is being rebuilt with the most modern technology available. Adam, I am willing to bet you all of my dinar..that once this currency is tradable, that it will not take 10-15 years to reach 3.22..What say you??? Where are your facts to back this up? You said that you don't make predictions about the rate or date? You just did and it was a ridiculous one..This is just my opinion in response to your chat...I hope that the next one will be more informative for the people who have waited to hear from you.6 points
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Some people need to follow the old saying. If you can't say something nice don't say nothing at all. Instead of taking out on someone what you should be taking out on your self. No one held a gun to your head and made you get into this investment so if you don't believe or like what someone is posting just click the back button and go on.But hey thats just my feelings about all this rude degrating that is going on.6 points
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Don't bash me here. I want a straight out RV like we all do and no RD/RV allowed. This update just drains my energy to stay grounded but glad it was posted still the same. Before I poke holes in it I want to say.... I hope Adam is right that even though iqd may lop he doesn't think it will. I hope Adam is wrong and that it comes in higher than .10 on a usd. I hope Adam is wrong that it may take years to reach over 3.00..otherwise I may be too senile by then and mistaken my notes for 100,000 candy bars and mistakingly eat them. My take on the update.... >> Last Time our contact was there August of 2010.>> >> Our contact has many connections in and around Iraq, including inside the government. He said after another disappointing trip in Oct 2010 >> Hmmmm last time there was it August or October. Thank goodness there arn't any RV dates quoted we'd be back to square 1. Just this past Saturday after he had conversations with people over there he left almost immediately. He’s in Greece right now just in hanging mode for the word to come from Iraq to sign off..In addition, I’m working on a HUGE contract that I know is for Iraq, but its all hush hush if you know what I mean, and that it has come to a complete hault as of today!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hmmm So why did THING ONE run to Greece to expedite a trip to Iraq to await signing the contract and THING TWO's ...contract comes to a screeching hault? Shouldn't THING TWO complete it and join THING ONE in Greece? >>We were told that they were waiting on some things to come through to move forward.>> Hmmmmm...Well darn.LMAO LOL GOOD LUCK ON THAT WAITING THING..TAKE A NUMBER AND GET IN LINE BEHIND US.waiting on some things to come through to move forward... >>HUGE contract that I know is for Iraq, but its all hush hush if you know what I mean>> HMMMMM..No, I don't know what you mean, HUSH HUSH because HUGE contracts are about the only real news, currency speculators can find. HMMMM....Well shoot...maybe THING ONE should ask THING TWO , if he has any unused skymiles he could donate, seeing he may be stranded in Greece for a while because>>The Iraqi’s had to RV their currency, to reflect price on contract>>now the numbers are ALL wrong and there is only so many times ,you can tour Athens. >>All I can say is I’m not vested heavy in the Dinar, HMMMM....LMAO...OF course you're not!! and that little lead tells me its not too late for me to buy some tonight or this weekend!! >>I’ve read the rumors , and really don’t get to excited since MY life isn’t going to change with 200,000 dinar, but I didn’t want to post this info anywhere, but the above is true, which tells me The RV is coming very very soon. HMMM... I only invested what my family was comfortable doing and now the RV is very soon!!! OH WAIT!!! I could always chuck this months budget since the RV is upon us, skip a bill and buy more since 200,000 isn't going to change a life. >>At that Time, I never even gave Iraqi Dinar a second thought, (Wish I would of LOL). All >> HMMMM.....AGAIN....OF COURSE YOU DIDN'T, and AWWW I'm so sorry,...BUT ....We're so smarther than you, and we'll GO out and BUY SOME MORE right now because somehow its too late for you to buy more but not too late for us? Pleeezzzzze!! Oh I want this to be over and for so many reasons....GO RV !!!before I punch myself in the face...LOL Wishwell116 points
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Click the Support link at the bottom of the site, send me a link to the software, I'll look into it. Glad to see we still have a reason for teachers in this world. (i have always said there is a possibility, nothing changed. )6 points
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We are going to make about a 1,000% on our investment. We did nothing to earn this kind of return. We were told time and time again that the tax would be 35%. Our government is in trouble. We lost 4500 great men. It is pay back time. So, instead of getting 10 mill, you get 6 mill. what are you people bitching about? Where is your Honor? You are being Ugly Americans. Enjoy your blessings. You will have more than you need. We have to get the deficit down and this will provide a chunk. It was the plan since 2003. Stand up for your country.6 points
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It is amazing how some folk's have something bad to say about a rumor. Thanks for the information you shared with us even though its a rumor. Just maybe one of these rumor are gonna come through and I hope I have used the correct spelling. I am still a newbie go RV baby.6 points
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Only my second post, am usually a watcher and observer, but had to share this one for what it is worth. we have a group of investors with Dinar and one of our group just now got a call from her banker that the rumor running around the banks in Atlanta, GA is that the RV will occur the 15th of this month. Strictly a rumor, but from a solid source. We'll see.5 points
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This may be something and it may be nothing. I don't mean to get everyone too excited, but Forex has changed like I have never seen it before. I watch forex all day and night. I see the changes it makes and I always keep track of what the IQD is doing. As of 7:33 am EST, Thursday morning, the Bid rate is 1,146.3000 and the ask price is 1,189.7000. Now I know that this seems like it s nothing, however, the Bid price has never been this low before. This is honestly the first time I have seen it like this. Now I know there will be those here that say, "Yea, it fluctuates, it goes there daily!" Well I'm here to tell you - they are lying. As I said, I watch Forex all day and I have never seen the IQD at this bid price. Now it may go back up and we will be back where we started, but maybe it won't. We will see soon enough. Once again, this has not happened before, regardless of what the know-it-all nay-sayers think. http://www.forex.tradingcharts.com/quotes/index.php?sym=usdiqd&Submit=Go&tz=GMT5 points
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Can you see it now? How is everyone tonight? I greet you in the name of our Father and His Son and the Holy Ghost. Last night I gave you a post that caused a few of you to scratch your heads and say……..what in the world did he just post? LOL……..for you old timers I am sure you understood 90% of what I wrote. It is the newbies that suffered the most along with those that read the c/p of my writings at other sites. On our last CC many of you wanted us to share with you what we knew at that time. I apologized to you yesterday and gave you some of our studies because we knew that all of the info would be released today. Tomorrow on our CC I plan to talk…….DELTA is already going crazy talking to himself because he was anxious to talk to you on Monday. I told him to stand down and he did. I love my Team and they are my gift to you. IMO all gifts should be appreciated. Even if presented from a Blue Couch or on top of a mountain. So what in the world was I talking about yesterday……..what in the world happened today in the world? Our government did something to surprise us this morning. Team was not surprised ……….we just thought we could share all that we knew on our CC last Monday…….but we couldn’t at that time. Tell you what……..let me give you a hand to understand my post from last night and our government’s activities today by sharing some of the phone calls that I logged in my notes. Let’s have fun……..please enjoy. Greetings this is Frank may I help you? Frank did you see that our government changed some laws on how we can EXCHANGE CURRENCY and move it across state lines? How we cannot CASH IN for anyone else from now on? Ledger to Ledger are no longer valid and they want a straight wire transfer? Sure did. Do you think it has anything to do with the RI? Because all of us here think that it has to do with Hedge funds. Some guy gave millions back to his customers in fear that the US market will crash and he didn’t want to be responsible for their losses if that should happen. Is our government trying to control the movement of our money in case we have a financial collapse in America? Big Brother is becoming too big for his britches? The timing haunts me because I don’t think it has anything to do with the RI. I think it has a lot to do with the potential downfall of our American government and its banking systems. Nope. Is that all you have to say? Nope………first I want you to pay close attention to who received this memo. Was it not Ali at Dinar Trade? Is Ali a Hedge Fund Broker? You silly rabbit. The laws have to do with CURRENCY AND CURRENCY EXCHANGE. Not the activities of Hedge Funds. I can tell you much more but join me on my CC tomorrow night. Hi this is Frank may I help you? Frank there is a rumor that our government is going to declare bankruptcy on the 15th of March. It’s about time don’t you think? EXCUSE ME?! It should not be news to you that our deficit and the lack of a budget for 2011 could possibly bring this to reality. But between you and I ……..I would not throw my hands up in the air and say the sky is falling. Instead …….I would say that the odds are much greater that a new Pope was announced due to all the white smoke that we are seeing. Hi this is Frank can I help you? Frank where did the new laws concerning currency exchange and wiring come from? The UST. Is that good or bad? May I ask you is it good or bad that the UST has been in Baghdad for over a month now? Do you think they made these new laws while they were locked up behind closed doors with S and the CBI? Hi DELTA. Frankie Frankie!!! Now can we talk tomorrow on the CC? LOL……..Si Si !!! Do you have today’s Iraqi TV report? Yes I do but I have to ask you something. Hedge Funds became quite a problem in January. Why would they wait three months to pass laws protecting citizens from these brokers? The laws from the UST that came out today have nothing to do with the HF. It mainly affects people exchanging outside of the US. People inside of the US will adjust. No American is going to go outside of the country to exchange………well at least this will prevent that. I think it’s important that US citizens only exchange inside of the US. I agree with you DELTA because the US has the MOST IQD’s in their Federal Reserves ………I think even more than China. I see these laws having nothing to do with Hedge Funds or a rumor of bankruptcy for our government. I see them being created for something that is soon to happen with our investment. Frankie Frankie these laws are good for you and me. Did you notice that the UST sent the memo to Ali who lives and does his business in California? LOL…….coincidence? I suppose……..LOL. Yes DELTA these laws are very interesting along with their timing. They say we cannot exchange a foreign currency for gold unless it is exchanged into USD first. BRILLIANT!!! Give me your taxes baby and for that matter add more strength and stability to the USD because it’s kind of weak right now. When countries buy the mass amounts of oil from Iraq some will buy it with USD. Yes DELTA these laws intrigue me because they encourage me about my investment. God only knows if they were intended to affect the IQD exchange. But logic says for me to pay close attention and NOT LOOK IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. Anything else from Iraqi TV today? YES!!! That’s why I said we can talk now. You don’t have to point and stare at the country of KU any more because they announced that the Emir of KU is coming to see M this coming Monday on the 14th. We can talk Frankie Frankie. Did they say if he was bringing the last banana peel of CH7? Because if he gave that to M then that lifts the shackles on their sanctions that will allow them to raise the value of their currency. TOTAL FREEDOM. TOTAL SOVEREIGNTY. The Emir of KU would look MARVELOUS to the whole ME. Wow……..he forgave Iraq and we will now all be blessed by the IQD’s RI. They did not go into details but we will watch them carefully and see what they say tomorrow morning. Did they say anything else DELTA? Yes M sent the resumes which they call CV to parliament. These were the final candidates for the missing cabinet minister positions. Looks like they will be accepted tomorrow. Anything else Sir? Yes and it’s just like you and I have been saying. Iraqi TV said that the president of parliament told them all to STOP TALKING and PASS LAWS!!! They use the example of when they met last month and spent the whole day talking about the events in Egypt. They adamantly said to stop wasting days by just talking. GET TO WORK AND PASS LAWS !!! Did they really…….LOL. They sure did Frankie Frankie plus they kept saying they are trying to do so many things ASAP! Our government is trapping currency inside the USA with these new laws. The Emir of KU is paying a visit to M and the last two times they met in January and February tons of wealth were distributed to the people of KU. I have a feeling it will happen again but not just to Kuwaitis. I hope to receive all of our intel before our CC starts tomorrow night. I want my intel to tell me that the Emir is going to sign some papers in front of M on Monday. Do you want me to give them the files on 15th through the 20th? Yes……..talk your heart out. It’s our turn now. You take care DELTA and as always tell your group I am very proud of them. They know who I am but I want them to know more of my past. Tell them to read the front page of USToday when they get it tomorrow. You will see Francisco Villa plastered all over the paper. I will give you the count for them tomorrow on this article. Take care my dear friend. Remember as you said WHEN WE SEE S AGAIN IT WILL BE FOR THE RI !!! Yes ….. That line is all over the internet now ….LOL! See you tomorrow on the CC Frankie Frankie. No……..we talk tomorrow on the CC. Take care. KTF, Frank5 points
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You know you're a Dinar Redneck when... ...RV no longer makes you think of a camper ...you can name Iraq's Minister of Finance, but no one in the US Treasury ...all your "bookmarked sites" are Dinar related ...you have added a FOREX app on your phone so that you can check it on breaks ...you have set up local time and "Iraq time" on your pc's desk top.5 points
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Jesus told me just take whatever it come to you and don't be greedy.5 points
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Shabbibi has been unusually quiet since the team from the US treasury dept. Has entered Iraq. Personally I feel that enough is done in the GOI for the trigger to be pulled. As with any global impacting deal there are factors not based on Iraq alone. My opinion, and mine alone, is that the US has the final say in when the trigger is pulled. The banking changes today, which caught everyone by surprise, were to me a major indicator. Do not underestimate the total amount of tax revenue this could generate, let me extrapolate. If there are 3 million US citizens holding 1 million dinar each this totals 3 trillion Dinar. If the Dinar Rv's at 1 to 1 this is a windfall profit of 3 trillion dollars. At a 35% tax rate, which by today's regulations cannot be avoided by transferring to a trust or commodity, this equates to 1.05 trillion dollars in tax revenue. Do you think the government is not involved or interested in this exchange? I think Shabbibi is waiting on the all clear from the US!5 points
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WARNING!!! DO NOT CLICK ON THE ABOVE LINKS!! PUMPER ALERT!!! NEWBIE ROBERT IS A POSER! i'm pretty sure wesley is out and doing what he wants too. check out his latest films at google... i'll pay what i have to but only what I HAVE TOO and i'm not paying anything without a fight... you can be a sheep if you want to. it's your right, and so is what i want to do. i am sorry to tell you this fellow dinar adventurer but THE FED is a private corporation. It originally came into prominence to loan Woodrow Wilson's GO money after the war. read his own quote about his circumstances... PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON: "A great industrial Nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the Nation and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world - no longer a Government of free opinion no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men". (Just before he died, Wilson is reported to have stated to friends that he had been "deceived" and that "I have betrayed my Country". He referred to the Federal Reserve Act passed during his Presidency.)5 points
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The problem is folks we have ever since 1871, have a rouge de-facto corporate government called the United States! The Country we were all told about and fell in love with is the De-Jure Republic that was not convene after the Civil War. For more information go Here!5 points
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hang in there guys!! I am trying to clean this up!!! Sorry about that!!!! I had it copied just fine but it went crazy when I posted it!! Thanks Dogmatic1 for the backup!!5 points
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I think the whole thing about seating the ministers was a smoke screen from day one. I think the HCL is, as well. Somebody has a plan for this RV and it is coming soon and everything is in place, but we do not know the plan. I think the RV is more dependent on having the machinations in place to handle it. A big step was the FED laws about currency exchange. The banks may not be ready. The Rothchilds are trying to squeeze one more buck out of the oil. Whatever, in a short while all our hot air will be meaningless and we will wonder why we wasted our time.5 points
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Trying to beat the system no matter how right you are in your stance is like chasing a cow in a field with no fences. The fault lies with the American people. They would rather watch some sporting event and swig some beer rather the learn who they are and where they live. There are way to many sheeple who would say I will pay my tribute and bow to their masters. "If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers." ~ Thomas Jefferson5 points
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The group of people I have gotten into this with all bought from Ali. He is for the lack of a better word a real down to earth man. I have enjoyed two cc with him and spoken with him personally in these calls. Before you imply or implicate to defame someones character you should have more solid evidence. ALI stands to loose allot as he is a currency dealer and sells more than just Dinars, his reputation is all he has. Further if he was as you say a fraud he would have been hung out to dry by the US Treasury. His license is current and up to date has been since 2004. Peace.4 points
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Regarding the naming of sources, I'd remind everyone that the last time someone did that, it rebounded back on them in a very negative way. If I had a source I considered reliable, I wouldn't name him/her on this forum either, simply because I wouldn't want to inflict on them the many, many resulting calls, e-mails, etc. from people who just HAD to "verify it for themselves." That would border on harassment, and I have too much respect for my friends and business acquaintances to ask them to endure that kind of punishment. JMO.4 points
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CASH IN, PAY THE TAXES THEN, BE DONE WITH IT AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO ALWAYS LOOK OVER YOUR SHOULDER FOR BIG BROTHER4 points
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[OKIE_OIL_MAN] good morning america and ships at sea. So much going on it is hard to put it in a sequence that is easy to follow--so here it is in sound bites--the timing of the us treasury in its latest ruling is very indicative of the immenence of the r/v in essense of being able to know just exactly how much dinar is in the usa and it's ruling will give it a way of tracking dinar for tax reasons as well as economic implications of that much money to be put in circulation. Of paramount importance also is the un releasing completely iraq from all sanctions--thus finally iraq will be a soverign country. Also as i have stated previously the meeting at parliment will be the most crucial day of our lives as investors. Maliki has been given authority to name the remaining ministeral positions and simply present them to parliment. This gives him a little more authority that has been previously thought.also next wed iraq is supposed to assend to the position of being a full pledged member of the w t o . [OKIE_OIL_MAN] tommorow will be as paul harvey used to say----the rest of the story [OKIE_OIL_MAN] tommorow officially the gov of iraq will finally be formed--remember what shabbi has said?--that will be the r/v [Dee1031] Okie_Oil_Man are you saying we may also see rv tomorrow too? [OKIE_OIL_MAN] DEE-NO [iris] what if I wanted to give ane million to my church, How could I do this without taxes [OKIE_OIL_MAN] iris-give them dinar--post r/v--they will have not tax implications if their a 501-3-c [OKIE_OIL_MAN] so much information-------so little time [OKIE_OIL_MAN] cage-few people even can fathom the degree and involvement necessary to furnish intel and don't seem to appreciate it enough to show common courtesy--i will gladly trade places with anyone on this forum and listen to your intel if it comes from valid sources [OKIE_OIL_MAN] i think personally we can relate to d-day the 6th of june 1944---after tommorows parliment meeting4 points
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ROFL....my bad? Can you tell the passion that went into that? Somethings I just will not let slide under the RADAR. We all have the right to an opinion, but not to speak lies and trash. The Tea Party had nothing to do with any of this, no this started over 30 yrs ago with bad foreign policy and poor financial constraints compounded onto each other. IMO Myself included we should ALL be ashamed as Americans for how we have let our beautiful country slip into the night unseen only a vague memory of ounce great fullness, a symbol ounce of Power and commanding respect finally a symbol to the world for FREEDOM! In the service when I was in Frankfurt Germany President Reagan was arriving on Airforce One, some of the people I spoke with had been waiting 2 days! Just to get a look at the symbol of Freedom, little American flags in hand waving and cheering. Sadly that is gone. JMO. Peace.4 points

