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Hello Everyone!! Like all of you, I have been coming on here for many months watching and scratching my head. I am sure that many of you wonder about the same things as I do. "Why do they really need to RV? How do these people who post as experts find out about secret meetings, conversations and secret delivery of documents"? What the IMF says and does as well as the UN, insinuating they have these stealthy contacts that funnel intel to them. I personally know high ranking army officers with state department contacts and they hear nothing about these rumors I was always under the impression that "INTEL" meant that there was an inside person secretly channeling information to someone and NOT reading articles and guessing and calling it intel. I became very frustrated and decided I would watch these forum sites from afar as a guest, never posting but instead using this as a part of my intel gathering plan. A little about my background. I was CEO of 2 energy companies, one in Shenzhen China,( US Tax and regulatory laws do not allow manufacturing in the US) and an engineering company in the southern US. We engineered complex critical back up systems for applications such as banks, military, NASA and many others. I have been through curency changes in China in 06 and found first hand how they affected my business just as much as unstable commodity prices such as lead, a major component of energy storage devices. In these 20 years, I made many friends and connections around the world and just by the nature of my position and the work we did, was able to meet people in high places. I decided to work on these connections to see if I could get closer to the truth about Iraq and not just by reading and trying to interpret news articles. I felt that unless I could find some true insiders then i would be forever reading these bogus reports of an RV/RI that never seems to happen. In this post and the following post i will reviel my methods and how i received the information. It will be up to you to believe or not but I wanted to make one more point. I am heavily invested in the dinar. I believe one thing from FACTS i have uncovered. Someday the dinar will be worth more than it is now UNLESS they erupt in civil war or the like. The first place i looked was Bank of America. I have a GREAT family member who graduated top in his class with double finance degrees from a top university. After paying his dues, he became the VP of currency research for BofA New York City. Wow, who could be better to start. I called hime last november and explained the entire sceneario and he began doing behind the schenes research and when he came home for Christmas he reported to me in person that BofA has no idea about these claims and that it was not even an approved, tradable currency and the rest of the complicated report was not good. SO I said thanks and discounted that because i felt that even in his position, maybe he was still an outsider and did not know. It did tell me one thing though, the people who report rumors that this bank branch manager/teller who were geting training regarding the dinar and all the other bank reports were just plain bs, PLAIN AND SIMPLE I have family members who graduated from Georgetown and Stanford and they were my next targets to see if i could get some world currency experts within their staff who could give me some perspectuive of why they would RV/RI not knowing that i would come accross the PHD professor that actually worked as a consultant for the US government within the banking system in Iraq. His job was to audit the main banks, TBI and CBI to see and report how to bring these banks into compliance for doing business globally. I was surprised when he answered my email and we wrote back and forth many times. His comments are shown below. Please read below; The Iraqi Dinar is NOT likely to be re-valued in the near future. The reasons are: 1) The noise about re-valuing the Dinar had arisen to keep the Dinar's value in line with the price of oil which had crossed $80 at NYMEX recently. The new pessimistic reports on the U.S. economy have depressed oil prices below $75. 2)Even as late as Jan 2010 the Central Bank of Iraq was selling gold to DEFEND the Dinar against a depreciation. 3)I believe that the revaluation of the Dinar will require a Prime Minister's approval. Neither the Central Bank nor the Parliament will be willing to make such a major policy move. If you would like me to do more rigorous research, let me know. Sincerely, Obviosly I entered into a consulting agreement with him to research more and to utilize his contacts and i will keep you all posted if you want me to, just say the word. THe CBI Has said they plan a redenomination before end 2010. They say in in all official CBI,GOI and IMF documents. Altering the face value of a currency without changing its foreign exchange rate is redenomination and NOT a revaluation. All the heads say this is just smoke and mirrors but never give concrete reasons why this is impossible but i ask all of you, why would they not remove zeros. Everyone still gains, just not 10,000%. For example, I have 20 million dinar that i paid a little over $17,000 USD. I have 800 bills 25,000 dinar. If they removed the zeros I would have 800 bills at 25 dinar and if they then RV to $3.22 my investment would be worth $64,400, a 378% gain instead of a gain of a $63,192,500.00. They would remove the three zeros without spending trillions and still have an RVed currency. Where does it make sense for Iraq to do the later. I would love the later believe me BUT WHY ????????????????? Truth MUST make sense to be the truth!!!! I have more research going on now and if you all are interested i will post regularly when i have news. Some I could post now but it is not complete and i made a promise to myself to never post until i have a complete verifyable picture. Another point I want to make and have everyone think about. Frank26 boasted recently he has 11,000 members and if we assume that half buy dinars from Ali and we assume further that they average 1 million dinar each, (i have 20 mil) then we see that there is about 5.5 billion dinar purchased which means that Ali needs over $ 17 billion US dollars ready for the cash in. He said he owns a bank. Does anyone know the name of this bank? I for one feel that it is a bit far fetched to be able to get $17 billion quickly. Does anyone else see what i am saying?? Another point, all these websites are very profitable, some more than others. Need I say more? In conclusion, I am not here to burst bubbles. I just want truth. This is a slow drawn out process but I am spending money and my time to dig past the news articles, past Med chats, Past Franks blue couch to slowly get to the sources that can tell us whether this will or will not happen. If I offend people because they think i am negative and I ruin their day to day dream pattern, I wont post anymore. ( BTW I walk the beach every morning dreaming what I would do with this money so I do understand) but if you want someone who can slowly and patiently gather TRUE INTEL I will do so. Please let me know. Thanks

I hesitated on even posting to this post to start with. I usually dont like to reply to peoples first posts. I will say there is no bashing in mind with this post, but there are so many holes in your post i thought i was looking at swiss cheese. I dont know who you are or the people you have said you have talked to, but if you paid them any money, get a refund. The first person you went to needs to do some more research. First the RV was orginally based upon 60 dollar per barrell oil. Now when you do the math, they pump 2.5 million barrells per day, that comes to $200,000,000.00 per day. Minus anything they have to pay to companys. So if they pump lets say 200 days a year. More than likely more, but just using it as an example. That would mean they make $40,000,000,000.00 per year. Now keep in mind i am low balling everything, but this is in us dollars. $40 trillion minus anything they have to pay to companies. So that you make an RV not only possible, but very much needed. I have not even gone into the fact they are the #1 producer of natural gas in the world. I havent even included that into the fold. Now for them to make this kind of money, they have to be out of chap. 7. That is all common knowledge. The CBI and the IMF are the ones in control of the RV. It has nothing to do with the prime minister. I have no idea where your guy came up with this one. As for your second guy, the CBI has came out in the last month and released a statement that stated the will be bringing in the 000's. What that means is they will be taking in as many as possible and exchanging them out. Nowhere in there press release did they mention anything about a lop. The CBI is not going to come out and day, HEY WORLD WE ARE DOING A RV AND MAKE EVERYONE MILLIONS. They are going to use wording that would make it seem like they will lop or redom. This is not the case. After reading Scooters report, which i really advise everyone to do, you will see that the budget already has the RV in it and is already in law. I do appreciate your time and effort you have put into your post. Like i tell all new people that come here and post for the first time, do your own homework. This site is the best for information without all the hype. And remember, GO RV!!!!!

What do you call a Democrat holding Dinar after the RV? A Republican.

I invested in the Dinar right after the Dinar was made official in 04, I threw a million Dinar in a cooler in my super cluttered garage and decided to forget about it for 30 years except the yearly look at XE to see what was going on. I had zero thought of it as a get rich quick scheme. It was a long term investment. But I have to ask you guys, "Has this recent rumor given you insane drive as it has me?" You see I have nothing, I do construction and it is horrible for us right now, so I am at the bottom and have nothing to lose, but this talk of RV has given me this mystical drive, I feel like a high performance machine. I wake up in the morning and yell out the window as loud and obnoxious as I can, lets go make some m#thrf#$*& Dinars!!!!! I buy a drink and I'm " damn that cost me 1600 Dinars. My friends think I'm crazy now, I know I am. As I tell my friends the next few months coming up are the past to me, cause I doesn't matter, all that matters is keeping my day job, my night job, and the RD/RV. I have sold everything, EVERYTHING I own and thrown away the rest, I literally have nothing now except a few clothes, my pistol (Walther P99 $500), my vehicle and tools for work. I am streamline so I don't have to worry about anything but working for Dinars, I'm moving into a $250 a month trailer and loving life to the fullest. And if this all goes to crap and fails on us, I had one hell of a Dinar generating ride and nothing but great memories! Kind of like a wild college vacation to Las Vegas and waking to a tiger from the zoo with a clown Whig on licking my feet and my eye brows shaved off and butt cheeks super glued together.. For you guys who have nothing I tell you this is one hell of a rush! This is called hard charging - balls to the wall!! You ever seen crank? That's me but I'm chasing Dinars:) I'm interested in hearing if anyone else is this driven for Dinars? I've heard the people who say you shouldn't put everything into this or any investment, I think it is relative to the individual, so lets hear some stories already. Lovin and livin brothers. PNixon

Why this RV Must Occur The Mandate for Iraq and its People This event is not about individual investors, politicians , or oil. It’s about the survival of the Iraqi people. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ DV TEAM, This is the second of a series of three POST. The topics and sequence are listed below: 1. The Major Problems 2. Inflation, Consumer Pricing, and REAL VALUES 3. The Intervention and Partners Part Two is below and I hope you enjoy. The Third post will be within the next 72 hours --- that's when we have more fun!!! Have a great evening, Scooter _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

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FROM A PORTION OF YOUR POST: THe CBI Has said they plan a redenomination before end 2010. They say in in all official CBI,GOI and IMF documents. Altering the face value of a currency without changing its foreign exchange rate is redenomination and NOT a revaluation. All the heads say this is just smoke and mirrors but never give concrete reasons why this is impossible but i ask all of you, why would they not remove zeros. Everyone still gains, just not 10,000%. For example, I have 20 million dinar that i paid a little over $17,000 USD. I have 800 bills 25,000 dinar. If they removed the zeros I would have 800 bills at 25 dinar and if they then RV to $3.22 my investment would be worth $64,400, a 378% gain instead of a gain of a $63,192,500.00. They would remove the three zeros without spending trillions and still have an RVed currency. Where does it make sense for Iraq to do the later. I would love the later believe me BUT WHY ????????????????? Truth MUST make sense to be the truth!!!! Thanks for being REAL about the potential of what COULD happen that of course no one wants to happen. One small correction is that the gain on your original investment is only 278% if you subtract the 17,000.00 USD that you put into this if my calculation is correct. Still not a bad return unless you compare it to the DREAM everyone has of 4000% increase. I would rather have the 4000% increase as well. I know the word which is not to be talked about (LOP), IMO, that would considerably hurt our dream of investment, would also hurt a number of other things like: The Powers that be that Own Dinar in the US, like politicians, decision makers, influential foreign policy types, including potentially OBAMA would all be screwed like us little investors. The deficit would not be helped in any way, thus not helping the democrats with elections if even possible. The US would not receive a considerable amount of cash from the taxes paid by these investors. Thus my conclusion is that if this happens (LOP and PEG or 1 to 3.86 range): Either OBAMA is going to be very unsuccessful at helping the economy of the US during this process or OBAMA will be extremely successful at a complete and utter destruction of the US economy with absolutely NO WAR repayment as intended by Bush in the first place. In either case, perhaps IRAQ does not care one way or the other about the other nations and will perhaps self destruct with poor decisions now and in the future. Either way Babylon will be rebuilt some day to fulfill prophesy, IMO.

Conscious / URGENT .. Iraqi leaders are holding an important meeting at the home of Iyad Allawi General supervisor Conscious / Baghdad / m k Al-Iraq News (INA) - 17/8/2010 @ 9:21 pm The leaders of the Iraqi coalition shortly before an important meeting at the home of the Iraqi president of a coalition Iyad Allawi to discuss the latest political developments and recent statements by Prime Minister Nuri al -Maliki, who was considered as a component of the Iraqi Sunni Arab. A source close to the media Iyad Allawi, in contact with Reporter (and the Iraqi News Agency Information / INA) "The meeting was held at the home of the presence of the Iraqi president of a coalition comprising the political leaders of Iraq to discuss the latest political developments and the statement of the current prime minister , who believed that a component of the Iraqi Sunni insurgency in Iraq." The source noted that "the conferees will hold a press conference after the completion of the meeting for the withdrawal of a response to these statements, and other issues." http://al-iraqnews.net/new/ajeel/21756.html

Was this already posted on Dinar Vets??? I never saw it... So here it is (perhaps again) * TiaC Post: 8/17/10 (Dinar Vets?) AUGUST 18, 2010 · POSTED IN CHATS / POSTS TIDBIT: I’m not sure where this was originally posted. It was emailed to me by a member here, and the posting said, “Dinar…” so I never got the last part. Anyway, if anyone of you knows where this was originally posted, I’d appreciate it, and I’ll update the header. Thanks! – DD Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 3:01 AM Just want to pass some information, which has been verified for me, about what is happening in Iraq. I was first told the following early evening Sunday the 15th 2010. I waited until I received multiple validations from highly placed individuals directly in the thick of things. These are individuals in the Middle East I have personally known from more than 20 years. I know there are some who would say, “OK, where’s the link?” The only link you are going to be able to see is, I assure you after the fact, and 2 to 3 days after. The following is what I was told on 3 separate occasions from the individuals I addressed in the above paragraph. The PM of Iraq is Allawi. Talibani and Sastani follow in presidential positions. Allawi the PM of Iraq signed the documents to activate the Revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar. In other words everything is done completed finished. You are no doubt asking “When will we know/hear/see the RV has actually taken place?” IMHO – the announcement will be not a whopping media blitz. It will be very understated without much fanfare. For those individuals Ali of Dinar Trade has indicated he will be sending those who purchased from him an email with the information about the revalued dinar, along with the rate. IMHO would a rate of $4.02 to $4.12 shock me? NO due to the information I was given privy too. As the the next magic question ‘When’ There is only one way I can answer that question. Would it shock me to wake up Tues morning or Wen morning and find an email from the currency company informing me the dinar has revalued…NO it would not. Would it shock me to find the new valuation for the dinar on Forex or other stock/currency websites? No it would not. Would it shock me to call my bank and they tell me they are accepting the dinar and the dong? No it would not. In other words…we are all breathing on the revaluation…it’s that close to being tangible. IMHO – if you tend to believe the Iraqi RV will be steeped in big parades and parties…won’t happen this month Remember this is Ramadan and everything is very low key..very low key to say the least. Blessings to All TiaC My Oh My, If TiaC post is correct, anyone who is presently discouraged will wake up with NO WORRIES here real quick. It sure would be nice to be taken by surprise by an unsuspected RV, perhaps sooner than all of us expected. News reports never make any sense as we all know. We just never know. Can I get a Woop-Woop??? <div><br></div><div>(Found on DD site)</div>

KTFM Conference Call - Tuesday, 08-17-10 Part 1 Frank's speech was missed due to the conference call not working correctly. 1st 10 min of intro is on the conference call recording...due to tech difficulties 99% of you took what I did in a positive manner and learned from it and we need to pray for people like this - I am not going to reveal private information that use to be with KTFM and its not my styles... I wish this would STOP and I deal with this every day of my life for the last 2 years... they touch my family and I disclosed it on purpose and we needed to show the lesson I was trying to listen to them.. My voice is not angry but loud for senior citizens so they can hear me better. WOW the devil did a good job to mess up and not hear my introduction and not understanding what i just said so go back and listen to it on recording tomorrow. Angelquest is here with us...Frank states he was just slammed today and asked her to assist him tonight... There were two meetings and mechanisms on how to protect Iraq's money. Relieving debt given up to creditors - they are forgiving creditors of their debts... 2nd part of our CC starts now... the first part you can hear on recording.. RECAP Way back in April 2010 last week of May we told everyone of the 1...2........3 steps to be accomplished to see RI == we were told that 1 and 2 the certification and the announcement of officials would literally happen side by side and the seating and rate in it would take a while. When in April May June July and Aug we had to break down step 3, it was not going to happena nd how to disect it and we did as a team- we raised teh FRANK O METER twice during that time period due t intel we had - no one had military intel but it was none of our busniess and Maliki it was none of our busines with his goonies... Step 3 had to be broken down into 3 time frames - 1st one coered from the 16 of July to the 26 of July - that time period we were wattin for them to tell us whot he elected officlala were - 27th to the 3rd we were epecignnt to sit the official s ad 4th to 16th we were expecign themt o release the RI - one of it has happened or HAS IT? My contact are very alert and sharp and acute of whats going oni - when I tell you that Parliament is seated, if it seated with Leon Spinks teeth gap - they are seated.. if uou do not appreciate that my team is sharing that with me and I share with you GO HANG UP NOW and go away and find your own team and own intel and own site and either share it and keep it to your self and DO NOT INSULT me or my team by making stupid comments in the sense of me... The GOI has been seated - Yesterday as source from Spain said to our team member that and he could see the newspaper headlines dsas =- Welcome to the PM of Iraq - Allawi - alot are saying that its a hint - YES they seated a LONG TIME AGO but its none of our business -if we knew what they were doing we may do silly things- the less we know the less speculation... YES THEY ARE and I don't go out of my way to THINK - SIT STILL GOD WILL HELP YOU... Think really hard... Darline can I pick on you? Pretend with me you are negative and say NO they are not seated - HOW DO YOU KNOW she askes - Frank says because my intel tells me this - OK she says, so theya re seated why are we waiting - beacuse its none of our business to tell us behind closed doors of the GOI and they dont' want t tell us over 6 months now - this is such a epic moment in the world - but you can't be told right now and understand that - and don't believe me - go away - what did Spain papers say - She said Allawi is PM of Iraq- who elected him? The PM is elected by the parliament and the people - the parliament selected the PM and HAD TO BE SEATED TO DO SO = so do you want to still argue with me about this?/ SEE they are seated since they have a PM - NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND the stress I go through? I am tired of people saying stupid things - I don't mind opinions but this is a great land with freedom of speech but use it constructive manner and not suck our the inner spirit God has brought us too.. i am mad at the devil for stealing the first 15 min of the this recording - I am sad as I had LOTS to say int he spirit.... Step 3 had to be dissected into three sections the first time frame we presented OH another ROCK - I DO NOT GIVE DATES FOR THE RI _ I am not that stupid anymore I did it twice in 09 twice I am sorry but NO MORE... I make no dates anymore.... stop saying everythign I predicted is wrong - I DON"T PREDICT or PROPHECY and you are the one creating dates to fulfill your needs.... WHO IS IN CONTROL - very few listen - Richie Chops he new what I was saying the whole time... LISTEN TO ME when I say something is in important then listen as i am trying to give it to you in our home..KTFM 3 step - 1st time frame DID WORK - 16 - 26th - they sat them down and yes M was there...and remember other sources called and said they got in - how long were they in session - about 12 hours did they get pizza delivered - ha joke - but they were in session - we had Breakaway go our of her way to find the right way to the media... the media had to come to the US to tell what they can tell us what we want them to tell us - and we read it andwe all say WOW and we say pay attention to AQ 's post - you are not listening - we are posting the good ones to help you 27th to the 3rd didn't work - and we felt Aug 4th this is it...and i had companies calling me they the Ch7 was not passed and all were angry - even China - and all people were biting me cause it didn't happen On the 1st of Sept we will be gone less troups but some will be there - 10-20 thousand - we will be there and its your ballgame and they have to take care of it and they are scared but working at it guess what else on Dept 1st - no more money honey -it will be really cut back - they are scared of that - less money more accountability - they are in a hurry and getting things done... they argue and bicker but there is progress... The last section the 3rd time frame -there is proof everywhere they have done all that - seated having meetings and yes a hint comes once in a while - they do not want us to KNOW EVERY DAY so hints come - the GOI throws out these hints NOT THE MEDIA...DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY SAY ONLY WHAT THEY DO.... 1-2% don't watch - they panic = dumb - relax and quit complaining and if you don't liek what I say - at my table then go find another home to steal food from cause you are not from mine... How far will this last time frame go? I don't care and go back and read my EF HUTTON post - that's all you need to know Shabibi made statement in Jan, march and now listed their 3000's and redominate our currency - it will be RE-denominated with the lower denoms it will happen this year end of story - plain and simple it will happen - shabibi separates him self form the GOI - all things I share new causes excitement and you want more... sit still Reverse engineering is a good thing I pat myself on my back - cause YOU Stab me on my bakc - instead of goign forward looking forward for this blessing - t-137 days OR LESS - OR LESS they give us NOV and DEC to cash in - iF GOD whispered in y our ear you would be able to cash in in NOV - give thanks for that time and QUIT complaining and asking and depending it - if you elan on this and not the everlasting Cross something is wrong.. priorities - yes we need money and I have problems - I get creditors that call me... I know what you are going through... I hold God's hand and pray and tell him I am hurting and I laugh with him - we are here to fill God's plan and stand the test of time and not be shamed when grace brings you home.. DID HE NOT BRING THIS BLESSING TO YOU - hang in there -I love you those that are laughing the most - If I could sit with you an make you smile would you call me a liar as you do now? No if you did I would love you still cause that's the only thing I know to do... Posted by: MAX - zzz KTFM Conference Call - Tuesday 08-17-10 Part 2 On Mondays I will post much Tuesday here i am on CC call Wed the articles that I tell AngelQuest and now Walking Stick to post Thursdays they will also post and tell you intel. I am tired I carried this for a long time and I suppose I should continue to absorb this punishment - its getting personal they touched my wife and now its getting toooo personal - my back ground the foods I eat - its necessary for you to understand why I need to change my how I produce to you... Remember I used to post every day before... I do this cause if you are naked I want to clothe you and hungry feed you - I will not lie to tell you anything cause GOD makes me accountable and I am a believer and by grace I am a saved Christian .... Numbers are different are like a rhythm a color a shape to them and combined they say alot and for some reason words do that too and they are there...Cedar Point is here in Ohio and my son was in the car - long day wife and grandkids in back and my son asked can you still do what you used to do - I said you knwo your old man how baout if I giev you a word - O Danny boy he said Old Man - up ahead on turnpike headed west and there was a beautiful bright green sign that said O'Danny's boy bar and grill and he said wow you can do it and I said ok want me to do it again as it comes in 3 - and I said ESPN and a huge billboard lit up really bright with Frank Madden and Michael don't for get Monday night football on ESPN and his son said can you do it again and I said I don't want tooo 1=- what happened this week to cause much excitement - about our investment - Lots of celebration in Iraq - its AKRE a city that is up in the northern park of the Kurdistan region and they are celebrating the GOI and putting up banners and they have confirmed that ehy have banners flying up on the building they are stating DEMOCRATIC - the have to be sovereign they have to have GOI says AQ - AQ another piece of intel - article sir that I mentioned that everyone knows that Frank and me have been saying its been done since June and July- TODAY they took 300 parliamentary people to another country to get this done...if they did this how could Frank by lying? Contractor called us this AM out of Iraq that he knows they GOV is seated but can't prove it but the people know it - then he said - like last week that company had all their employees RESIGN their contracts cause other Iraq monies coming.... HE SAID TODYA that these people KNOW and its excitement in the air and his statement Frank once they seat their GOI this RI will happen pretty soon... Conversation with ALI agrees once the HCL on seconds you will see the blessing of the RI - still the same in January and now after the elections middle of April or May - Ali said he was looking for the HCL but he said I think that once we see the GOI seated itself things will move along very quickly for you and I... I like patterns I study them and collect them. Ali came back from opening for 4 banksa nd you are anxious for the parliament to be seated - I like taht and i agree with him =- its all done and we need them to SIT and revealwaht has been hdiding Where are we on the Frank o meter - we are at 9.97 for a very good reason.. how many months are left in the year - 3 months take away one for exchange and what do you get... remaining bullets makes the 9.97 very well calculated... it will go to 9.98 on the 1st of SEPT IF WE SEE what we are looking for... Breakaway figured your code- NO they did not received CH7 and CH 8 is being looked at Formally announce the GOI WHEN? I believe - the 23rd is a Monday to look for the CBI - 4 individuals in this bank is related to the 23rd - is it the seating or release of lower denoms? Not sure keep that date also in prayer - this is NOT AN RI DATE I am giving you NOOOO... do you hear me - do not say I said another date I DID NOT... DON'T HURT PEOPLE I GIVE NO DATES.... There is a progression for all announcements - we wanted them to seat first - they sat down but not telling us anything - the were supposed to remove M but no they are using more time but GET THIS DONE - we are pulling out on the first - they take the media hide everything - yes they sat but it has to be official - they have not released the rate or officials yet - we need to see them do their things first... My avatar is telling you I am done with my research and intel and I am celebrating that deep that this blessign will happen in the time frame of T-137 days and counting OR LESS therefore I celebrate with the fireworks int the background - YOU WILL CELEBRATE when you see them on the forum... Time requirement on stock exchange to be recognized for 30-45 days??????? is this correct Frank? Frank says that it will effect it in any shape and form and once its recognizable its instant with rate and currency... In your gut opinion - IYGO - do you think RI will happen in August.. No Frank says ... 23rd something is going to happen but not sure but gut feeling not sure at all... Posted by: MAX - zzz KTFM Conference Call - Tuesday 08-17-10 Part 3 It was posted in the forum that fiscal year of Iraq or world or US senate calendar to RI? There is no sense in trying to make any one understand one fiscal calendar so we went with the end of this year Shababi said in the year of 2010 so we took inside of those number o days lies the blessing in my opinion of the lower denoms replacing the higher denoms 93% now back to Iraq. Richie Chop was on and Frank greets him.... Rich says that prayer is needed over 61 people were that were going to join the army and were killed today... GOD BLESS YOU ALL.... Next week Richie be with us... lot to happen on the 23rd to talk about.... Caller from 530 area code - Tony in CA When is the rate going to be determined? The rate was frozen when we US invaded Iraq - we worked out a deal 0 the Marshal Plan to take over everything and we gave them monopoly money to use for us to get them back to normal.. IN 2003 the rate was $3.22 by Sadam - and the was frozen and one charter to not do any business with world said they would not be able to reinstate the rate til conditions are met - the frozen locked in rate will be reinstated once again is $3.22 and will add 20% in a few months. Richie Chop has to leave and proud of you... Jan wants to sing something to you.... Frank and Jan sing THE SOUL TRAIN - together - he posted today Aint' No Stopping Me Now song today - have any of bigger than big boys yards been set up with equipment - yes Who is the new oil minister? AQ Opinion - NO one will like this but you put me on the spot - I think that it will be.. NOT CLEAR to me.... - they have major problems so one of the delays could be with an oil minister being picked and acting like a bit like "Maliki" not that nasty or power but stubborn attitude - give it up - reminds me of the electric guy... putting everything in my pocket is NOT my job??? ha The Devaluation of the DONG is triggered by China - if they say jump V says how high sir? It has happened by china 4 times this year - notice the dong goes down each time - its reciprocal ... the oil is interesting if we don't see anything at the beginning - the middle of the month it goes down.... The oil will shoot high on Monday in anticipating something happening on Monday... the 23rd may happen so watch the oil - NO ITS NOT ANOTHER DATE - just watch the 23rd.... When you order Dinars make sure you ask for your discount from KTFM in the promo box.. SO THERE... Hey builder - those PM's you were talking about thank you Skyhawk fast for 48 hours YES THANK YOU and FOCUS ON GOD it cleanses you...its important to fast... closer to GOD AQ said fasting and prayer is great - today I visited a site today on ( can't hear site name?? They have a message countdown to world premier of 2 days 12 hours and so many minutes - what does this mean? AND sky hawk requested today we fast for 48 hours - that matches.... There is a Hawaiian radio station pipeline to paradise - when you go see him - Paul he knows about KTFM but nothing about dinars and he played HE TOUCHED ME and he dedicated it to all of KTFM Family and Frank and Jan...He knows it as a Christian site... Frank plays the promo... Posted by: MAX - zzz KTFM Conference Call - Tuesday 08-17-10 Part 4 How was that promo ???!!!! we are known all over the Pacific islands!!! Caller from area code 651 Mike in Florida - appreciation give to Frank - Can't log in and register - problems on site - Frank gives advice to how to solve this issue with caller... Caller from area code 609 - Dinar King out of FLorida - thanks Frank This is not a dinar question.. My brother is here getting a liver transplant could you pray for him tonight - for Kenneth - Frank states this prayer request is MORE important than anything we could ever do regarding this Dinar...so Frank prays - AMEN!!! my question is where do you think we stand would this be wrapped up before end of month? Frank asks did you just get on and caller says yes I was at hospital and football field with son... so yes he just got on... YES we think on the 23rd something may happen with banking system, lower denoms - gov info and its coming from a GREAT SOURCE something will happen on the 23rd and by the end of year it has to happen... One more call.... Should we be concerned about Iran and Israel problems? We can't mess with those kind of questions - blue couch time - in the land of IS the prep has been going on for a long time that land of bears and eagles we have to finish and get paid and go pretend you are interested in another country - and people are getting paid -when this blessing occurs it will take care of what is needed. THIS WAS Part of the plan and they know it... China is down.. why.....did you ever stick you stick in a hornets nest - I DID I had 102 bites and my cousin did too - do not mess with a hornets nest - some are saying how high do you want me to jump - yes they are angry and they take that attitude cause they owner the world - Kissinger and Nixon opened a Pandora box and this country still owns the world and the US ended up renting us out... we owe everything including kitchen sink and pipes and BUT THEY want this blessing as much as they do - this blessing is part of the plan to pay them off... WCinthai (sp?) is on the call... DETROIT LIONS FAN I am... maybe this year we may do better.... Jan took my bricks away so she got me some blue sponges to throw at TV when they play... We are ending this call now but one thing left - thanks to Jose... Crittermom says asks a question in Spanish and Frank answers in Spanish... Thanks Joe for helping KTFM family - First part of call was recorded - please listen as it was about what I did this AM on the forum and why... Jose will do all he can to make that part available right after this call tonight... TO KTFM Family - this is for you: Mary did you know that your son died for me? Frank26 Of course I did.... (voice of AQ) Mary did you know that I love your son very much - Frank26 Of Course I do.... (voice of AQ) Then Frank sings the song : Mary Did You Know... Absolutely beautiful... wow And now you know Frank26 God Bless KTFM (voice of AQ) GOD BLESS YOU KTFM FAMILY.... ALOHA Posted by: MAX - zzz

You must acquire the decoder ring to get the full message. Just kiddin. I saw a rainbow and at the end of it was a pot of gold. As I reached down to grab it a little green man that looked like Maliki ran off with it screaming not yet. That's about the time the dog starting licking my face and I woke up. Oh well. Thanks Woody for the inspirational post. Our dreams will come true one day. God Bless Semper Fi ;)

[karina] scooter what up [plantrus] What will the rate be? [scooter] Sheree they say that in every contract in the world --- the only way to verify [scooter] is check [sheree] plantrus better watch it, you might get booted! [scooter] So sherry [scooter] sheree [scooter] have you checked and verified [scooter] hmmmmm [scooter] karina karina karina karina karina karina [EagleEye] Scooter Scooter GE good to see you back you have part 3 for us ? [sheree] Scooter I'll leave that to you, ty! [plantrus] Why [karina] Scooter buddy [sheree] plantrus , no dates or rates from the scooter! [scooter] maEagleEye EagleEye EagleEye ---- not yet ----- I think were still gettting readers on number one my friend [Dogmatic1] Scooter Impatient bunch, aren't we? [scooter] Sheree Just what neighbors do [karina] rdhce [scooter] hmnmn [sheree] Scooter I really liked #2 myself, will #3 be even better? [EagleEye] Scooter n#1 and #2 also [scooter] Dogmatic1 Yes [scooter] but [scooter] EagleEye [scooter] machobra [scooter] you have my curiosity with the BIS -- not with the 19 countries -- that's been scheduled for 18 months [plantrus] Sheree I don't mean anything I just want info [sheree] 10/10 would be too late for the deadline [scooter] Tell me about the 19 Trillion [sheree] plantrus , I'm just playin' with you! it's all good [scooter] lplantrus We're all goooood [machcobra] Scooter actually the figure is 42 trillion, much of it has to do with markets and a whole lot of other things. [scooter] such as? [machcobra] trusts [scooter] 42 usd's huh? [machcobra] yep [scooter] Now you have my curiosity [racbluto] [sheree] Scooter are you invested in the other 19 countries, any good opportunities there other than the VND? [machcobra] did the VND rise a bit? [scooter] Because the Chinese have been buying our debt via the Treasury Bonds at a rate of 55 - 65 Billion a month for the past 36 months [Dogmatic1] machcobra no it devalued [scooter] Do you know how much they have in USD's [machcobra] oh [scooter] Less than 2.5 Trillion [scooter] I want to know how the BIS has 42 Trillion [scooter] at their hands [Dogmatic1] Scooter maybe they got an advance for the dinars - [scooter] machcobra machcobra machcobra NP -- How are you to know that --- no big deal -- but I am going to investigate that little rumor Moderator Notice: um like what ....cause if you missed it I most assuredly did [pleasantvalleySunday] [scooter] Dogmatic1 --- Scooter just shaking his head back and forth [scooter] [scooter] Moderator Notice: I'm copying now [EagleEye] [dinarrv9911] Scooter Is the ISX going international by Oct. 31 still on schedule? [sheree] Scooter if the IQD RV's before the other currencies, what would you suggest we get in on? [mturbo21] scooter i've read 42 billion also--on dd site [scooter] Sheree Sheree Sheree NOOOOOOOOO [machcobra] Scooter, ever hear of a little pink sheet company called CMKM Diamonds? [scooter] We did this three nights ago [scooter] we had a fight remember [scooter] [sheree] Scooter we di [sheree] did [sheree] me? [don1164] dongs next [sheree] Scooter] I can't give advice -- not license -- just Trained FOREX guy... [sheree] I want to invest in the VND, you think no? [scooter] economy kind of guy with a passion for the fundementals [sheree] Scooter okay, let me ask this way, are you invested in the VND? [sheree] [don1164] hi scooter [barboza] Scooter What's your take on a common currency for the Persian Gulf? [scooter] don1164 don1164 [scooter] Barboza Now that's a great question [don1164] hey scoot whens next prediction bud? [scooter] That's a very very very good question [scooter] one that I'm still thinking about [scooter] not about the single GCC currency -- but [Dogmatic1] Barboza Scooter yes! I was wondering about that, myself! [scooter] how Iraq will land [scooter] will they glide in gracefully [scooter] or come in crashing [machcobra] Scooter how do I send you a link? [scooter] machcobra just PM or hit my profile [scooter] I'll delete once I get it [barboza] Scooter Thank you for your input! [scooter] don1164 No predictions for scooter [scooter] sorry [scooter] Barboza I wasn't done though [bart456] They will come in crashing, you know thats a rowdey bunch [scooter] this one is tricky [ Scooter] bart456 That means they'll start with a higher rate and crash downward [racbluto] Iraq does nothing gracefully [scooter] [scooter] I'm serious [scooter] Yea -- but they might not have a choice [sheree] Scooter I'll just listen this time [EagleEye] any idea how high based on the numbers you've studied [scooter] Barboza I need to get back to you on that answer my friend ---- [scooter] EagleEye EagleEye EagleEye EagleEye EagleEye ---- [machcobra] Scooter I click on your name and just says message notify? Not sure what I am doing wrong. [scooter] Stratospheric [barboza] Scooter Great! I appreciate your patience with me! [scooter] [scooter] [scooter] Barboza Barboza Barboza Patients [scooter] never! [don1164] me and scooter go way back [sheree] Scooter so we better lock in quick huh? [don1164] buy your vnd people [scooter] machcobra You can't send me a note [scooter] hmmmm [scooter] Better get rid of some of the old emails [pleasantvalleySunday] don1164 you name dropper you ... just teasin ya don1164 [machcobra] Scooter I guess not [machcobra] k 1:50 PM [don1164] LOL 11:51 PM [scooter] Sheree No --- that's not what I said at alll my dear 11:51 PM [scooter] don LOL 11:51 PM [sheree] Scooter I'm just joshin ya 11:51 PM [sheree] LOL 11:51 PM [scooter] I know --- 11:51 PM [scooter] machobra --- brb -- let me check 11:52 PM [machcobra] k Chat so far..... Thanks Scooter

Oh my goodness! Hold on to your Dinar and do not liquidate! The most important thought or action right here and right now is to remain FAITHFUL being certain that this miracle of the RV will happen. Do not allow yourself to empower the logicians who claim it cannot be because 1+1 is 2. If there wasn't more then that solution then the miracle of America would not be here as a beacon of Freedom and Wealth to Humanity. It is on our money, remember this words, "In God We Trust!" Please try to keep that Motto on your lips and in mind. IN GOD WE TRUST!! Blessings. God Bless America and God Bless Iraq too!

Basic research says... truthseeker has only ONE post today. That's it... 1! one! uno! Oh... And he has posted nothing else. nothing (ever). I am sorry unless he comes with facts. Which the people like scooter and others has done. He will only get one read. Thank truthseeker for the post. But my dog disagrees with you. And she as a brother who works for BofA with a degree here in Charlotte, NC.

Subject: Tennessee Football This is a statement that was read over the PA system at the football game at Roane County High School , Kingston , Tennessee , by school Principal, Jody McLeod "It has always been the custom at Roane County High School football games, to say a prayer and play the National Anthem, to honor God and Country." Due to a recent ruling by the Supreme Court, I am told that saying a Prayer is a violation of Federal Case Law. As I understand the law at this time, I can use this public facility to approve of sexual perversion and call it "an alternate life style," and if someone is offended, that's OK. I can use it to condone sexual promiscuity, by dispensing condoms and calling it, "safe sex." If someone is offended, that's OK. I can even use this public facility to present the merits of killing an unborn baby as a "viable! means of birth control.." If someone is offended, no problem... I can designate a school day as "Earth Day" and involve students in activities to worship religiously and praise the goddess "Mother Earth" and call it "ecology.." I can use literature, videos and presentations in the classroom that depicts people with strong, traditional Christian convictions as "simple minded" and "ignorant" and call it "enlightenment.." However, if anyone uses this facility to honor GOD and to ask HIM to Bless this event with safety and good sportsmanship, then Federal Case Law is violated. This appears to be inconsistent at best, and at worst, diabolical. Apparently, we are to be tolerant of everything and anyone, except GOD and HIS Commandments. Nevertheless , as a school principal, I frequently ask staff and students to abide by rules with which they do not necessarily agree. For me to do otherwise would be inconsistent at best, and at worst, hypocritical... I suffer from that affliction enough unintentionally. I certainly do not need to add an intentional transgression. For this reason, I shall "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's," and refrain from praying at this time. " However, if you feel inspired to honor, praise and thank GOD and ask HIM, in the name of JESUS, to Bless this event, please feel free to do so. As far as I know, that's not against the law----yet." One by one, the people in the stands bowed their heads, held hands with one another and began to pray. They prayed in the stands. They prayed in the team huddles. They prayed at the concession stand and they prayed in the Announcer's Box! The only place they didn't pray was in the Supreme Court of the United States of America - the Seat of "Justice" in the "one nation, under GOD.." Somehow, Kingston , Tennessee Remembered what so many have forgotten. We are given the Freedom OF Religion, not the Freedom FROM Religion. Praise GOD that HIS remnant remains! JESUS said, "If you are ashamed of ME before men, then I will be ashamed of you before MY FATHER.." If you are not ashamed, pass this on . Father God oh hear our prayer, Lord forgive us please As we stand up for AMERICA and pray on bended knees ~ (poem by Kitty Frye) I'm not one bit ashamed to pass this on, Are you?

* SVISSER Post: DDT 8/17/10 (Keeping it Real and Keeping it Simple) August 17, 2010 · Posted in CHATS / POSTS Keeping it Real and Keeping it Simple I watch this site day after day to see one “guru” after another make claims that we will see the RV on such and such a day, or after a certain UN meeting, or during the holy month of Ramadan as a gift to the people… blah blah blah blah blah. This is a simple answer as to “When we will have our RV” but unfortunately so many various pieces of intel have clouded the issue. I am writing this in an attempt to return to the simple and obvious. Question: The singular most important justification for the UNSC authorizing war against IRAQ and imposing Ch7 on the nation of Iraq was what? I will give you a hint… we saw Gen Colin Powell address the UNSC with a bunch of photos and intel describing Iraqs capability and possession of….. Thats right WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION! Back several months ago when we saw a push to take Iraq out of CH7, (this was the big push prior to the election), there were two major hurdles that the country of Iraq could not overcome. The IAEA had not completed their inspection/Audit of Iraq. The Iraqi Parliment had not voted on a very important piece of legislation that had to do with the “Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty”, specifically the “IAEA Additional Protocols”. Additional Protocols are so important because they are rules specific to Iraq. 88 other countries have signed the Additional Protocols for their specific countries, however the problem with Iraq is that as much as the executive branch has said yes we will honor the additional protocols, nothing has been ratified by their parliment. There is “No official law” backing these protocols, simply just a pledge by Maliki. Not good enough! You may remember when the Obama administration wanted to “vouch” for Iraq being in compliance with the audit after the caretaker govt said they would abide, and very wisely the UNSC said NO Way! The IAEA is official nuclear watchdog for the UN on anything nuclear. The UN demanded that it be done right. So the IAEA completed their work with the audit however the parliment has not been re-seated therefore there is no official government to vote these additional protocols into law. NO ADDITIONAL PROTOCOLS…. NO REMOVAL FROM CHAPTER 7. IMO you will not see an RV without removal from Ch7. The simple reason is leverage. Iraq will not give up the only bit of leverage that remains to force or shall I say entice the UNSC not to just forget about them. The international community wants an RV yes, however without the UNSC dealing with the “reason” we went to war in the first place, Iraq will not get what they need! Simply put… Once the Government is finally seated, then look for an announcement on the additional protocols. Chapter 7 will follow very quickly and then you will get your RV. Following this logic, your emotions will stay in check and you will not be subject to the emotional roller coaster that we get so sick of! This will free your up your time and allow you to live your life free of the dinar drama without selling them off and forgeting this investment! The investment IS REAL and it will happen, but so are the emotions. Significant damage can be done to relationships when you allow the dinar rumors and gurus to drive hopes based on “intel” that does not address the basic reasons for the war in the first place. Hang tough and may God Bless us all!

Congressional Reform Act of 2010 1. Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below. A. Two Six year Senate terms B. Six Two year House terms C. One Six year Senate term and three Two Year House terms Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. 2. No Tenure / No Pension: A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. 3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security: All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, Congress participates with the American people. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, server your term(s), then go home and back to work. 4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. 5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. 6. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. 7. Congress must equally abide in all laws they impose on the American people. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. Or go to jail, if appropriate. 8. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void effective 1/1/11. The American people did not make this contract with congressmen, congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. If you agree with the above, pass it on to all in your address list. If not, just delete.

Dear Dinar Investors, Based upon recent events in the Dinar World, it appears we are nearing the completion of this journey. While we have experienced false starts in the past, all evidence points toward this coming to fruition shortly. When the actual news breaks, it will be displayed on the various forex boards and on bank websites. It will probably be announced on national news because of the recent coverage given the dinar by major news networks. You will also get an email from Ali at Dinar Trade explaining the recent change and his cashing in process. 1. Cashing in your dinars. Most of the banks will not be handling the cashing in process for several days after the announcement. Ali has promised the CBI, (Central Bank of Iraq), rate which will be better than the local banks. He will charge $150 per million dinar and $24 per bank wiring account. This will be less than most banks who will want to charge 2-4%. Ali has also committed to freezing the rate when you call and make your appointment. He will have several offices available nation wide. 2. For most people this will be the largest financial gain of their lives. It would be easy to just go hog wild, cash in the dinar, and have a spending spree deluxe. We are expecting tax consequences involving the gain from this investment. While some feel it will be treated as capital gains and will be considered regular income. That means it will be taxed at the highest rate. 3. Of course you are at choice in deciding to share your blessings, BUT remember the ever present IRS is watching. You may give the dinar away as a gift, but you will want to do it IN DINAR and not in dollars! If you cash it in, then give it away, you pay the tax consequences as ordinary income and the amount you share, (anything over $13,000 per year, per person), is subject to Gift Tax. This tax is actually accumulated and assessed on your estate when you die. While it has some influence at the moment, it may have a HUGE effect on things later. While gifting is a wonderful thing to do, you will want to provide a Gifting Statement to each person you bestow the dinar upon. DONATE TO CHARITIES IN DINAR, NOT IN DOLLARS. YOU WILL STILL GET THE SAME DEDUCTION IN REVALUED DOLLARS WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY THE TAX CONSEQUENCE FROM CASHING THEM IN! 4. Banking will become very important as you deal with this kind of money. FDIC will cover up to $250,000 in any interest bearing account and unlimited coverage for non interest bearing accounts. I would contact one of the major banks, (Wells Fargo, Chase, Bank of America, etc.) to get an account in their private banking. (Yes, they do have private banking for the wealthy.) These accounts have a variety of guaranteed coverage and are not readily accessible at the local branches. Your local credit union may be nice, but I would discourage you from putting all your money there. It will be discovered and you may be thronged by investment opportunities of all kinds, both legitimate and not. You will also want to spread your wealth to several banks in case of an unforeseeable change in the industry. 5. For some of us, this is our retirement. Make sure you get counsel on the best way to ensure the safety and return on your investment. The CRT is a great entity to reduce the taxes and guarantee your principle. Another perspective to consider is a possible change in the US Dollar. Look upon investments that will be secure in the future. Real estate, precious metals, and other investments that can provide liquidity if needed. There is an option to exchange your dinar for gold bullion with Dinar Trade. If you want the physical wealth, I would look at coins, (especially silver), for your personal possession, and NOT bullion. Recently it was discovered that gold bullion was laced with another metal to offer the weight, but not the value. (This does not mean Ali’s bullion will be laced, just that it was discovered recently in the US mints.) Coins are measured in several ways to guarantee the quality and are easier to exchange than taking a knife, peeling off a sliver of gold, and then trying to trade it for bread. Read more: http:

NEAR THE IRAQ-KUWAIT BORDER — The last U.S. combat troops were crossing the border into Kuwait on Thursday morning, bringing to a close the active combat phase of a 7½-year war that overthrew the dictatorial regime of Saddam Hussein, forever defined the presidency of George W. Bush and left more than 4,400 American service members and tens of thousands of Iraqis dead. The final convoy of the Army’s 4th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, based at Fort Lewis, Wash., was about to enter Kuwait shortly after 1:30 a.m. (6:30 p.m. Wednesday ET), carrying the last of the 14,000 U.S. combat forces in Iraq, said NBC’s Richard Engel, who has been traveling with the brigade as it moved out this week. “We won! We won! It’s over! We brought democracy to Iraq!” a soldier shouted as fellow soldiers celebrated their arrival in Kuwait this week. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38744453

August 18, 2010 Bank of England: Iraq on the verge of an economic recovery A shipping source said that oil exports from the port of Basra in southern Iraq rose yesterday to 56.1 million barrels per day after fell to 720 thousand barrels per day before two days because of reforms in the pipeline. While Chief Executive of the Bank (IHS.. Me. C) British Branch argued that Iraq is on the verge of "economic recovery". The source, who asked not to be named, said "The rate of flow from the port of Basra to take on the rise after the reforms have achieved in some sectors of the export pipeline yesterday evening." He stated that three ships being loaded with crude and there are six ships at anchor waiting for the download. In the meantime, Chief Executive of the Bank of Iraqi unity (IHS.. Me. C) British unit looks forward to opportunities to finance projects in infrastructure and open more branches gradually in light of Iraq's reconstruction. "Said James Hogan, Chief Executive Officer (IHS.. Me. C) Iraq," Iraq on the verge of the next stage of development, we move beyond security considerations and enter the economic recovery. "He added that the Bank of England re-enter Iraq in 2005 when he bought 70% of the bank's domestic peace. Owns (IHS.. Me. C) 16 branches across Iraq and plans to open between four to six additional branches among the twelve months to eighteen the next. The Bank of England working in Iraq since the beginning of the last century, where he began to work through the Imperial Bank of Persia up to Iraqi banks were nationalized in 1964. Includes the Iraqi banking sector seven state-owned banks and 36 private banks expected to merge gradually, especially after called the organizers of Iraq to remove all the banks minimum capital of 250 billion Iraqi dinars (9.213 million dollars) by 2014. Hogan said that in the case (IHS.. Me. C) Iraq, the new requirements of capital means that he will raise the current capital of 57 billion dinars, nearly five-fold in the next five years. "Once a new government takes, it will focus on the most likely to next year's budget and we will see capital spending, supported by a large new infrastructure projects such as roads and the demand for cement and the establishment of telecommunications infrastructure." Hogan said that (IHS.. Me. C) is currently working with an international organization did not identify buy cement factories in Iraq and the bank hopes that by the order of these agreements and funding

Yep ... if 1/2 M IQD is your risk tolerance level ... fine. It it's 50M ... good for you. I often tell my group that the day it RI/RV's will be the best and worst day of your life! It will be the best for obvious reasons ... hey, at $.10 it's 100X what you paid for it. Higher ... just more astronomical. It will be the worst because you are going to see that if you had postponed that vacation, not spent $300 at the bar and restaurant last weekend, waited for that new car, bought the kids what they needed while you waited ... etc, etc ... you COULD have bought more dinar and changed not only your life but many others! Some on this site will call you (PNixon) greedy because they simply don't understand your drive and they themselves don't have a plan to help others ... only themselves. While your (PNixon) initial presentation does sound a bit "on the edge" ... I do applaud your commitment ... you will have the last laugh. A few things: 1)make sure that you really do have things in perspective ... losing things, downsizing to accomodate, financial pressure ... all are huge stresses. Make sure you REALLY are OK 2) plan out your tax strategy 3) find a cause that you are passionate about and intend to support when your wealth arrives ... focus on them ... work for them ... instead of an obsession for dinars you will foster a love for helping others yet accomplish the same thing that you are aimed at now ... but with peace of MIND. 4) promise yourself something nice ... it needn't be extravagant ... just something that you've always wanted ... your BODY will work for you with less objection to the pain, loss of sleep, or whatever. 5) plan your investment strategy so that you will NOT live off of the principal ... but off of the interest ... that way you will have it into perpetuity ... enabling you to endow something upon your death. 6) be at peace You are the first person on this site to espouse a drive to accumulate wealth that I have seen. Everyone seems to have bought into the "if I've arrived at my risk tolerance, then everything else is greed". What nonsense. They've just arrived at their risk tolerance ... period. If you have a purpose larger than yourself it will be impossible to acquire enough ... prepare yourself for that ... Before you bashers get going ... my wife and I run a 501©(3) charitable organization that feeds, clothes, houses, educates, and provides medical care for sick, needy, and orphaned kids around the globe. PNixon ... providing that your post isn't a spoof or you aren't out of control ... then again, I applaud your drive. Peace Doc31 Thanks for the post

The government can do that because we as a people allow them to. By voting in liberal and socialist individuals into the House and Senate the American people are giving up there rights to personal financial freedom. The politicians know darn well if they want to increase government liquidity they should lower taxes and not raise them. I know that sounds strange on the face of it, but it has been proven time and time again. They want there power. They want to control every aspect of our lives. In order to do that they must take away the only thing that gives individuals power and that is there money. The politicians then redistribute that wealth to people who don't pay taxes and those people get to vote themselves more money by putting the same crooked politicians back in office. Benjamin Franklin said that once we as a people can vote ourselves money we will no longer have a democracy. Sorry to say we are there. There are just to many non producers who benefit from government hand outs and each one of them has a vote. What needs to be done is educating the public on how if you're getting money now in the short term that it will eventually collapse because the people who are paying the taxes will eventually realize it's just not worth working your butt off and having to pay Uncle Sam the majority of what you made. No wonder there are so many people who fudge on there tax returns. If tax laws were fair the government wouldn't have to worry about people cheating on their returns. There wouldn't be a need for so many government employees and those people would be in the private sector actually producing income instead of sucking off the government. Sorry for the long rant. Don't forget after the R/V if it is possible try and donate just a little bit to some military or veterans organization. They are the ones who have given so much of themselves for us to be here where we are now. May God bless us all especially our brave men and women in uniform.

Not only did I get to kiss and tuck my two girls into bed tonight but I get to read your post in total safety...... Thank you so much for your sacrifice and your gift to all of us... I pray this RV is huge and timely for ppl just like you.... Please stay safe and you and your family are in my paryers.....

Well, the only rush i get, is getting home. Im sitting in Baghdad working rite now. Newly married to my best friend, i have 2 kids at home, and they are with my ex...(yeah, not too thrilled about that).... The rush i am feeling is like a plane ticket home and out of this God Forsaken Country!! so the RV will be a blessing from God, a blessing that will let me be with my family. God Bless everyone. May lifes blessings be upon you ALL!

Too funny ... from 15% to 45% ... why quibble ... it's theft, passed unconstitutionally ... did I mention the new 17,000 jobs that the administration created? ... 17,000 new IRS agents ... what are they for? ... uh, huh

My next door neighbors are from Iraq. The husband still works over there and comes home only a couple of times a year. he recently came home and after giving him time to settle in and get caught up, so to speak, I ventured over to meet him and have some discussion. after some mundane conversation, I managed to swing the conversation around to the investment of the Dinar. he told me that the Iraqi people are very grateful for all the U.S. investment in their country and that they see it is a very positive way. As for the RV, which as you can imagine, I was very excited to hear about, He said this. This will come only after all the political processes are out of the way. It could come in the very near future, but that even in Iraq, this is thought of as a very necessary maneuver in joining the world money markets. He cautioned however that the American people should not get too caught up in the investment arena as there is never rhyme nor reason to the Iraqi political process. As I was weighing his comments and saying my goodbyes, he put his hand on my shoulder and said " The revalue of the Iraqi currency is just one way that we will pay back the American people for following that great man, George Bush, and freeing us from tyranny". Before I could respond the door closed.. GO RV !!!!!!!!!!

President Obama: Muslim Missionary? (Part 1) by Chuck Norris (more by this author) Posted 08/17/2010 ET More than they have been at any other time in U.S. history, our First Amendment freedoms of speech and religion are in jeopardy. As if recently passed "hate crime" laws and a politically correct culture weren't bad enough. Now our president is using international pressure and possibly law to establish a prohibition against insulting Islam or Muslims. Let me remind us how we got here. Speaking for most Founding Fathers in his day, John Jay, the first chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, appointed by George Washington himself, said, "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest, of a Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." Two hundred years later, President Barack Obama has denied America's rich Judeo-Christian heritage before the eyes and ears of other countries, as he publicly declared in Turkey on April 6, 2009, "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation." Then there was Cairo in June 2009, when President Obama vowed to establish "a new beginning between the United States and Muslims." He continued: "I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed. That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn't. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear." Therein lie two of the most unique U.S. presidential religious passions and missions in the history of the U.S. First, "I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear." Second, to create a "partnership between America and Islam." (Notice the partnership is between our country and a religion, not other countries or Arab states. That's key!) Roughly six months later, in February, President Obama appointed Rashad Hussain to serve as his special envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference, an intergovernmental body of 56 Muslim countries, which also forms an official body represented in the United Nations. (Where is the same treatment from this White House for countries that uphold Judeo-Christian religions and values? Or any other religion?) President Obama rejoiced, "I'm proud to announce today that I am appointing my special envoy to the OIC, Rashad Hussain. ... A close and trusted member of my White House staff, Rashad has played a key role in developing the partnerships I called for in Cairo." In 2007, then-President George W. Bush explained the initial purpose for an OIC representative: "Our special envoy will listen to and learn from representatives from Muslim states and will share with them America's views and values." But President Obama has upped the OIC ante considerably. The White House purports from its website that special envoy and hafiz Rashad Hussain "will deepen and expand the partnerships that the United States has pursued with Muslims around the world since President Obama's speech in Cairo." Again, notice the differences between the Bush and Obama plans with the special OIC envoy, from Bush's mission to "listen to and learn from representatives" to Obama's mission to "deepen and expand the partnerships." The world also just learned recently from the assistant secretary for public affairs in the State Department, P.J. Crowley, that the White House repeatedly has sent to the Middle East as an American ambassador of peace the Islamic fundamentalist and executive director of the ground zero mosque, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who is teaching on Muslim life in America and promoting religious tolerance. But doesn't one who called the U.S. an "accessory" to 9/11 just a few weeks after the tragic event and one who still refuses to call Hamas a foreign terrorist organization seem a strange choice for a U.S. ambassador of peace who promotes religious tolerance? It is absolutely no surprise, therefore, though gravely unfortunate and disappointing for our commander in chief, that last Friday night, while celebrating Ramadan at a White House dinner, he shared with a gathering of Muslims that he is in favor of building the mosque near ground zero! And he repeated his strong advocacy the next day, too. White House spokesman Bill Burton reiterated last Saturday, "What he said last night and reaffirmed today is that if a church, a synagogue or a Hindu temple can be built on a site, you simply cannot deny that right to those who want to build a mosque." But I could not agree more with Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son was killed at the World Trade Center on 9/11: "As an Obama supporter, I really feel that he's lost sight of the germane issue, which is not about freedom of religion. It's about a gross lack of sensitivity to the 9/11 families and to the people who were lost." And Debra Burlingame, a spokeswoman for some 9/11 families and the sister of one of the pilots killed in the attacks, summed it up perfectly: "Barack Obama has abandoned America at the place where America's heart was broken nine years ago and where her true values were on display for all to see." President Obama is not just rebooting America's image in the Muslim world. He's deepening and expanding Islamic belief, practice and culture around the world, like a Muslim missionary. Next week, I will discuss how the Obama administration has changed course in just this past year regarding passing anti-First Amendment defamation of religion resolutions, as well as demonstrate how Obama has been prejudiced in his treatment of Christianity versus Islam. Mr. Norris is a Martial arts master, actor, and concerned citizen. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38585

Kuwait... So Iraq still owes some $23.5 Billion to you? Wow what a bummer. Tell ya what.... since I am President of the United States I am gonna throw my weight around. Make some decisions and get Iraq to pay that balance in full for you. Sound good? Thought so. But first... I want you to know that we bailed your butts out big time. Oh man, I wouldn't even want to think what would have happened had our boys not got there when we did. Hell... you might've become the 5th political bloc representatives in this Iraqi election had we let them continue their march back then. That would have screwed up the elections even more if that was even possible, hahahaha chuckle haha... but I digress. Well, as you know... things are tight here in the U.S and I want you to know your first installment payment is due for paying us back for saving your hind side. The funny thing about it is it just so happens to be about $23.5 Billion. Weird huh? Tell ya what, since we are still on duty over in Iraq... Why don't you call Ban Ki Moon and waive those Iraqi debts reparations. Ya know... call it good with Iraq, and we will collect from them instead in lieu of your debt to us? I know you are disappointed but chin up... You can still call yourself a Kuwaiti instead of an Iraqi today! Thanks for the chat and it was good to see you again. Shall we consider this matter closed?

woop woop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could this be a GREAT sign? Democracy in order, Sovereign Iraq????? I am going from Tampa to Miami right now to Tell OBAMA, in case he is unaware. Troops are out Early before the end of the month, and the report actually came from an AMERICAN REPORTER. THIS REPORT COULD BE TRUE!!! A HUGE THANKS TO OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN FOR THEIR WORK AND LIVES!

ds2, So far everyone has thanked truthseeker for this post. Currently, he has a (+) 14. Some may disagree with his conclusion, but there is no argument. It appears to me that most of us are encouarging him to provide even more info from his contacts. I believe that this is a good thread let him keep it going. All the best Lgraham

I though that I would share these two news articles I found. Sorry if old but I thought it was very interesting how the bloomberg article refers to things being done in a few days. Now the question is????? What do the iraqi's consider a few days. Could a few days mean after Ramadan? Enjoy this first link. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-17/reclusive-cleric-sistani-playing-role-to-end-impasse-in-iraq.html Here is the second article. After reading this I get the opinion, and the message to me is this...The U.S. is rolling out boys, you better get your **** together quick or you are going to fall victim to military insurgents and we may never get our country to where we want it. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/18/world/middleeast/18baghdad.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss Best of Luck guys and gals! Go RV

The lop has always been a possibility ... I still contend that it is still improbable because besides its initial value to the Iraqi's it fails to accomplish ... even deters further or ANY investment in Iraq. The real question according to this post is 378% (278% adjusted for investment buy in) a big enough incentive to buy and/or keep buying. If you figure 3.5% it would take decades to accomplish the same thing in the states. In fact, discounting a civil war ... this is a "no brainer" ... just do it and quit fretting situation. Indeed, in my view ... this is a well written dissertation on his coming to terms with a lop ... something that most of us did months or years ago. Many of you failed to notice that he does walk on the beach imagining the enormous gain without the lop which sounds like the rest of it. Peace Doc31 Thanks for the post

why is it when someone makes a post that goes against what medic, frank, scooter, adam etc say there are those that think the person who posted it is wrong? maybe they are right. just because it isn't what we all want to hear doesn't make it wrong. and just beacuse truthseeker has only posted 1 post doesn't mean he is wrong, he could very well be right. it is no worse than all the others who have posted "intel" and "contact" info that hasn't been right. just because some of the guys who run these sites say something doesn't mean they are right. no one knows who these guys are or who anyone is on these sites. these sites do make money, some more than others. it is easy to look up a websites worth it takes just a few minutes. i hope when this is all said and done we all make a nice profit. but then again nothing is for sure in this world and to have a closed mind is just crazy. we aren't guaranteed we will even break even in this. after all it is speculation. look at the dong. it was posted it just devalued and all these gurus said for months it was going to RV along with the dinar. the dong RV'd all right it's value went down not up. i want this as much as the next guy but i only spent what i could afford so if i don't make anything i will not go bankrupt. i will be disapointed but not living on the street because of it. if and when it happens i pray we all get what we want out of it. until then we wait to see the outcome.

One thing is theTRUTH and that is the dealers and all of these websites are making a killing on all of us. The fire wont burn unless you put wood on it!!! Believe me I'm invested also and only time will tell! The worlds most valuable commodity is information. Thanks for sharing yours.

Knowledge is power. Keep it coming. Thanks for your efforts.

Thanks for the info! Please keep posting... dont worry about the few neg people who might not like what you say, Its truly best to hear and assimilate all views/scenarios to make better decisions that effect our families and lives. Thank you.

I like the way you think. I actually have been thinking the same thing for quite some time now. Especially when you add in the fact that often the news is old a week, a month, etc. It is very confusing. Imagine what it must be like for the Iraqi people. They must need Fox news over there. Maybe we could send O'reilly over there for a month or two. That should shake some things up. A couple of interviews with Allawi, and then with Maliki and the truth would be on the table....Wow!! what an idea.....

mailman17 says to (12:33:49): OUTSIDE OF THE DFI, IRAQS FROZEN ASSETS WORLDWIDE ARE ESTIMATED TO BE BETWEEN 750 BILLION AND 1 TRILLION DOLLARS HOWS THAT? THATS WHATS FROZEN AND CONSIDERING THEY ONLY HAVE TO BACK UP THEIR CURRENCY WITH 25% (CALLED FRACTIONAL BANKING) AND SUPPORT FROM THE IMF, THAT IS WHY 3 BUCKS OR BETTER ARE VERY MUCH ATTAINABLE BAM BAM TO KEEP YOU GUYS FOCUSED ON THE BIGGER PICTURE I LIKE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX…IT KEEPS ME SANE…LOL fbrant says to (12:39:15): MM, do you still think this might POP within the next week? mailman17 says to (12:39:31): SEATING OF THE GOVT?…YES VERY POSSIBLE RV WILL COME AFTER THE UN MEETING THEY NEED CHAP 7 LIFTED EITHER WAY, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A FULL FUNCTIONING GOVT FOR SANCTIONS TO BE LIFTED CONQUEST says to (12:40:51): when is the next UN meeting? mailman17 says to (12:40:57): AND I TRULY BELIEVE ITS DONE AND IN THE WORKS…JUST NOT ANNOUNCED TO THE PUBLIC eagle1 says to (12:41:03): and with most of 000s called in, 3+ is even more very attainable… mailman17 says to (12:41:11): NEXT WEEK, I BELIEVE, BUT BUT BUT THEY CAN CALL A MEETING ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT CONCERNING IRAQS SANCTIONS AND THATS WHAT I THINK WAS SCHEDULED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AT THE LAST MEETING MOONS ULTIMATUM ONCE AGAIN…THATS JMO LETS HOPE I AM AT LEAST HALF RIGHT…({) THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THIS IRAQ LEFT IT UP TO THE UN TO DECIDE THE BORDER DISPUTE WITH KUWAIT AND KUWAIT GOT WHAT THEY WANTED WITH NO CRYING FROM IRAQ THAT IS HUGE KUWAIT MANAGED TO GET A FEW WELLS IN THE DEAL THAT PRODUCE SOME MIGHTY FINE TEXAS TEA AND LAND THEY CAN TRY TO BLOW AS MUCH SMOKE UP OUR a*s AS THEY WANT….WE AINT GONNA FALL FOR IT MED, MYSELF BF, GG AND THE OTHERS KNOW DIFFERENT WE ARE KINDA LIKE A MINI CIA LOL ONLY BETTER LOL THE ONLY THING I CANNOT CONTROL IS THE PRICE OF STAMPS…YOUR ON YOUR OWN ON THAT ONE…LOL AND ALSO ONE MORE THING IF ME AND MED AND BF AND THE OTHERS EVER THOUGHT FOR ONE MOMENT THAT THIS INVESTMENT WASNT GONNA PAY OFF WE WOULD HAVE BEEN GON A LONG TIME AGO I AM SIMPLY LIKE YOU GUYS…AN INVESTOR PLAIN AND SIMPLE IF I THOUGHT THIS WASNT GONNA PAN OUT….I WOULDNT BE HERE FOOD FOR THOUGHT AND I DO MY HOMEWORK SO THATS WHY WE ARE ALL HERE AND…WE NEVER SUGARCOAT THATS THE BIG THING STRAIGHT UP AND FROM THE HIP AND THAT FILTERS DOWN TO ALL OF YOU NO DROOLERS ALLOWED LOL AND NO RUMORS WE GET MORE OUT OF THE FACTS AND BECAUSE OF THAT…WE HAVE COLLECTED A VERY NICE INTEL BODY A TRUSTED INTEL BODY NO COUSINS OF BROTHERS SISTERS CRAP AND THATS WHAT MAKES US NUMBER ONE AND DV BEING THE THINK TANK MOST OF THE STUFF THAT COMES HERE PAASES DV FIRST HELL, MOST SMALL COUNTRIES DONT HAVE THE NETWORK WE HAVE HERE…LOL WANNA KNOW WHY? CAUSE ITS A TRUSTED NETWORK JUST SMALL TOWN AMERICAN AT ITS BEST LOL BAM’ WHATS NICE ABOUT FACTS IS THAT WHEN THEY ADD UP….THEY USUALLY COME TO A CONCLUSION AND IF YOU ADD UP 7 YEARS WORTH THEN YOU GET BAM I HAVE DONE MORE HOMEWORK ON THIS INVESTMENT THAN I DID IN ALL OF THE YEARS IN CHICAGO PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM…LOL THAT WAS A JOKE lawlesslucy says to (13:10:44): why do u think that if israel attacks iran we will still see an rv? mailman17 says to (13:10:57): I DONT THINK THEY WILL ATACK WHY? TOO MUCH AT STAKE lawlesslucy says to (13:11:27): for who? mailman17 says to (13:11:33): GLOBAL 38cabo says to (13:11:40): why would they release that info now ?? mailman17 says to (13:11:57): GOOD QUESTION..WHY? lawlesslucy says to (13:12:09): threatened them? mailman17 says to (13:12:14): MAYBE? ISRAEL IS INVESTED TOO…REMEBER THAT I THINK THE THREAT OF ISRAEL IS REAL BUT I THINK TIMING IS EVERYTHING AND NOW IS NOT THE TIME MAYBE LATER THOUGH guardian says to (13:13:42): i’m hearing bolton says israel only has a few days to take out iran’s nuclear reactor before the fuel rods are inserted mailman17 says to (13:13:44): WHO KNOWS? NO I DONT LUCY GUARDIAN…THE UN WILL GET INVOLVED FIRST KO15 says to (13:14:21): lots going on mailman17 says to (13:14:27): WAY LOTS LOL YES ISRAEL IS TOUGH THEY HAVE THE SECOND BEST AIR FORCE IN THE WORLD THATS BIG ANYWAY…STAY POSITIVE AND FOCUSED PEEPS…OUR DAY IS COMING…JUST WAIT FOR IT OK BEHAVE PEEPS…LATER Read more:

Hahahaha, yeah maybe so. That is the perfect prescription doc, I'll be damned sure to talk to the professionals at GID Associates tomorrow!!! You have my word:)

After being interviewed by the school administration, the prospective teacher said: 'Let me see if I've got this right. 'You want me to go into that room with all those kids, correct their disruptive behavior, observe them for signs of abuse, monitor their dress habits, censor their T-shirt messages, and instill in them a love for learning. 'You want me to check their backpacks for weapons, wage war on drugs and sexually transmitted diseases, and raise their sense of self esteem and personal pride. 'You want me to teach them patriotism and good citizenship, sportsmanship and fair play, and how to register to vote, balance a checkbook, and apply for a job. 'You want me to check their heads for lice, recognize signs of antisocial behavior, and make sure that they all pass the final exams. 'You also want me to provide them with an equal education regardless of their handicaps, and communicate regularly with their parents in English, Spanish or any other language, by letter, telephone, newsletter, and report card. 'You want me to do all this with a piece of chalk, a blackboard, a bulletin board, a few books, a big smile, and a starting salary that qualifies me for food stamps. 'You want me to do all this and then you tell me. . . I CAN'T PRAY? Lars Nielson Jr.

Things I will never do after an RV: Drive a Lamborghini Blow all my money in Vegas Live in a state with state income taxes Tell all my family and friends "Guess what??? I'm RICH!!" Buy generic toilet paper Eat at McDonalds Take the bus or drive 1000 miles to save a few bucks Buy dinar Try to translate a document from Arabic to English Rip a CD I checked out from the library to save the money it would cost me to buy it Complain about the price of oil/gas Read anything posted by a dinar guru Drive a car with over 100K miles on it Work a job I don't like because I need the money Vote for Obama

another site: INTEL! August 17, 2010 · All, I just want you to know that I believe we will see an RV…. SOON! I feel strongly my time line (by end of Oct) remains intact. I will NOT reveal any details to back my proclamation, but I do feel we will be blessed sooner than you may think. As I’ve been saying recently, please hang in there…. just a while longer… Go Dinar! another site

الاقتصادية : بين تقييدات منظمة التجارة العالمية وحاجات السوق العراقية Economic : between the limitations of the World Trade Organization and the needs of the Iraqi market <P style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; DIRECTION: ltr" align=justify> د. D. أيسر ياسين Acer Yassin أحرزت الجولات التجارية متعددة الأطراف تقدما كبيرا في تحرير المبادلات العالمية من الرسوم الجمركية والقيود الكمية. Made rounds of multilateral trade major progress in liberalizing world trade from customs duties and quantitative restrictions. لكن هذا التحرير غير كامل لأنه يعاني من ممارسات تؤثر تأثيرا سلبيا على اقتصاديات البلدان النامية. But this liberation is not complete, because it has practices adversely affect the economies of developing countries. وتعد سياسات مكافحة الإغراق في مقدمة هذه الممارسات. The anti-dumping policies in the forefront of these practices. أولاً: ما هو الإغراق؟ First: What is dumping? يعرف الإغراق بأنه حالة من التمييز في تسعير منتج ما وذلك عندما يتم بيع ذلك المنتج في سوق بلد مستورد بسعر يقل عن سعر بيعه في سوق البلد المصدّر، وتشكل الفروقات في الأسعار هذه تجارة غير منصفة تسبب ضرراً للإنتاج في الدولة المستوردة وقد يصل سعر البيع في الدولة المستوردة إلى مستويات منخفضة جداً وما دون التكلفة يستهدف بشكل مقصود إزالة منافسين يصنعــون منتجــات شبيــهة أو يــؤخر قيــام صناعة بسبب وجود واردات من السلعة بأسعار إغراق. Defines dumping as a situation of discrimination in the pricing of a product when it is sold that product in the market for an importing country at less than the selling price in the market of the exporting country, and are differences in the prices of this trade is fair cause harm to the production in the importing country may end up selling price in the State imported to very low levels and below-cost targeted deliberately remove competitors making similar products, or delay by the industry because of imports of the commodity price dumping. وتنص المادة السادسة من الاتفاقية العامة للتجارة والتعريفة (الجات GATT) الذي اقتبسته اتفاقات أوروغواي على ان الإغراق يسمح بإدخال سلعة معينة منتجة في دولة ما إلى سوق دولة أخرى بسعر أقل من قيمتها العادية. Article VI of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT GATT) Uruguay Round accords, which borrowed that dumping allowed certain commodities produced in the State to market another country at less than normal value. وتعرف الجات، الإغراق بعملية توزيع إنتاج بلد معين في أسواق بلد آخر بسعر أقل من السعر الطبيعي normal price، وترى أن تطبيق هذه السياسة قد يلحق أضراراً ببعض الصناعات ولاسيما الصناعات الناشئة، ويعوّق بناء صناعات جديدة في الدول التي تتعرض لسياسة الإغراق. Known as GATT, dumping the process of distributing the production of a particular country in the markets of another country at less than normal price of normal price, and believes that the application of this policy may damage some industries, especially emerging industries, and obstructs the building of new industries in countries affected by the policy of dumping. حتى تكون سياسة مكافحة الإغراق منسجمة من الناحية القانونية مع التنظيم التجاري العالمي يجب أن تتوفر فيها ثلاثة شروط: To be consistent anti-dumping policy in legal terms with the organization in the world trading must fulfill three conditions: * الشرط الأول: على الدولة المستوردة تحديد حجم الإغراق الذي يصيبها. * The first condition: the importing country determine the size of dumping that it touches. ويتم ذلك بمقارنة السعر المحلي للسلعة مع سعرها المخصص للتصدير. This is done by comparing the domestic price of a commodity with the price for export. يجب أن يكون الأول أقل من الثاني. I must be less than the second. وهنالك أسلوب آخر يتمثل بالمقارنة بين كلفة إنتاج السلعة في البلد المصدر مع سعر بيعها للخارج. There is another method of comparing the cost of producing goods in the exporting country with the price of selling out. يوجد إغراق إذا كانت قيمة كلفة الإنتاج أعلى من سعر البيع. There is dumping if the value of the cost of production higher than the selling price. يسبب هذا النوع من الإغراق خسارة مؤقتة للمصدر بهدف احتكار سوق البلد المستورد لاحقا، الأمر الذي يربك العلاقات التجارية القائمة أساساً على المنافسة. Cause this type of dumping a temporary loss of the source view to monopolizing the market of the importing country later, which confuse the trade relations based primarily on competition. * الشرط الثاني: على الدولة المستوردة إثبات الضرر الذي تتحمله، الضرر هو إذن الشرط الأساسي لتحريم الإغراق، ويبرر الإجراءات التجارية ضده. * The second condition: the State imported burden of proof of damage, the damage is therefore a prerequisite for the prohibition of dumping, and a justification for trade measures against it. وعلى هذا الأساس ليست هنالك أي حكمة أو فائدة من مكافحته عند عدم وجود الضرر كأن لا تنتج الدولة المستوردة سلعة مماثلة حاليا أو في المستقبل المنظور. On this basis, there are not any wisdom or the benefit of control in the absence of damage was not produced in the importing country like product now or in the foreseeable future. * الشرط الثالث: يجب ألا يكون مبلغ الرسوم الجمركية المفروضة على السلعة محل الإغراق أكبر من الفرق بين سعر استهلاك السلعة في الدولة المصدرة وسعرها في البلد المستورد، كما يتعين ألا تكون الرسوم منحازة، إذ لا يجوز فرضها على سلعة دولة دون سلعة مماثلة لدولة أخرى. * The third condition: must not be the amount of customs duties imposed on the wheels of dumping is larger than the difference between the price of consumption goods in the exporting country and its price in the importing country should also have no fees are biased, it can not be imposed on a good state without a commodity similar to other countries. من الناحية المبدئية يجب محاربة الإغراق عندما يقضي على القاعدة الرئيسية للتجارة السليمة وهي المنافسة، لكن المشكلة تتعلق بكيفية حساب هوامش الإغراق والجهة التي تحدد درجة الضرر وحدة التدابير المتبعة لمعالجته. In principle should be required when anti-dumping on the main base of trade competition is good, but the problem of how to calculate dumping margins and the body that determine the degree of damage and the unit measures in place to deal with it. هذه التقديرات متروكة لكل دولة بصورة انفرادية الأمر الذي يؤدي إلى اتخاذ إجراءات تعسفية، فعلى سبيل المثال يستوجب التنظيم التجاري العالمي أن تزول إجراءات مكافحة الإغراق فورا عندما تكون قيمة استيراد السلعة محل الإغراق ضعيفة، وتم الاتفاق على أن تكون هذه القيمة أقل من 3% من مبلغ واردات السلع المماثلة. This estimate is left to each state individually, leading to arbitrary action, for example, requires that the World Trade Organization anti-dumping actions disappear immediately when the value of imported goods replace dumping weak, it was agreed that this value is less than 3% of the amount of imports of similar goods. الدولة المستوردة هي التي تتولى حساب هذه النسبة وتستطيع بالتالي محاربة أي سلعة حال إثبات أن قيمتها تفوق تلك النسبة. The importing country is to compute this ratio and therefore unable to fight any good case to prove that their value exceeded that percentage. ترمي إجراءات مكافحة الإغراق في حقيقتها إلى منع أسواق الدول الصناعية على المنتجين من البلدان النامية الذين أثبتوا جدارتهم، خاصة في ميدان المنسوجات والملابس. Aimed at anti-dumping actions, in fact, to prevent the markets of industrialized countries on developing country producers who have proven their merits, especially in the field of textiles and clothing. أصبحت مكافحة الإغراق أخطر سلاح ضد تحرير التجارة العالمية، وسوف يستمر هذا الوضع فترة طويلة، ولا شك أن التنظيم الجديد للتجارة العالمية يستوجب إلغاء إجراءات مكافحة الإغراق بعد مرور خمس سنوات اعتبارا من تاريخ تطبيقها، لكنه يسمح أيضا للدول المستوردة بالاستمرار بها لمجرد شعورها باحتمال عودة الضرر بعد انقضاء هذه المدة. Become anti-dumping most dangerous weapon against the liberalization of world trade, will this situation continue for a long time, no doubt that the new organization of world trade requires the abolition of anti-dumping measures after five years from the date of application, but also allows importing countries to continue for the mere sense of the possible return of the damage After the expiry of this period. ثانياً:كيفية تحديد الإغراق II: How to determine the dumping تحدد القواعد الدولية أن عملية إثبات حالات الإغراق تمر بعدة مراحل هي: Set of international rules to prove that the process of dumping is passed through several stages: 1. 1. تقديم شكوى إلى الجهاز المختص بمكافحة الإغراق في الدولة المتضررة من الإغراق. Filed a complaint with the competent organ of anti-dumping in the state affected by the dumping. 2. 2. استيفاء الشكوى حيث لا بدَّ أن يتوفر في الشكوى عدد من الشروط، أهمها أن يكون مقدم الشكوى إحدى الشركات العاملة في الصناعة المتضررة من الإغراق، وأن يؤيِّده فيها ما لا يقلّ عن نصف عدد المنتجين العاملين في نفس الصناعة بدولته. Meet the terms of the complaint must be available in the complaint a number of conditions, notably that the complainant is a company operating in the industry affected by the dumping, and is supported by at least half the number of producers working in the same industry, its country. 3. 3. التأكّد من أن الضرر الواقع على هذه الصناعة سببه الإغراق وليس عوامل أخرى. Make sure that the damage to the industry caused by dumping and not other factors. 4. 4. إخطار حكومة الدولة القائمة بالإغراق للدفاع عن نفسها. Notify the Government of the State existing dumping to defend itself. 5. 5. اتخاذ قرار بفرض رسوم جمركية إضافية على السلعة المستوردة المغرقة للسوق. Decision to impose additional duties on dumped imported commodity to the market. 6. 6. إبلاغ منظمة التجارة العالمية بهذا القرار. Notified to the WTO this resolution. ثالثاً: أثر سياسات الإغراق على الواقع العراقيبشكل عام ان سياسة الإغراق لها ايجابيات على السوق والمستهلك والصناعات المحلية ولكن لمدى قصير جداً… Thirdly: the impact of dumping on the ground that the policy in Aeraguibckl dumping her positives on the market and the consumer and local industries, but very short range ... ومهما كان هذا التأثير الايجابي فتشكل نهايته تأثيراً سلبياً اما تأثير سياسة الإغراق على الصناعات المحلية فهو يضعفها وينعكس على القوى العاملة وخصوصاً الفنية أو المتخصصة فأما تتحول إلى أعمــال غيــر فعــالـــة أو تفكر بالهجرة وكذلك استقـــلال المــواد الخـــام ثم إعادة تصديرها ومنع استفادة الصناعات الوطنية من الخامات المحلية.. Whatever this positive effect constitute the end of a negative impact The impact of dumping on domestic industries is weakened and is reflected in the workforce, especially technical or specialized Either turn to the work of non-effective or are considering migration as well as the independence of the raw materials and then re-exported and the prevention of use of national industries from local materials. . اما من جانب تأثيرات الإغراق فهو يزحف نحو منظومة الأمن الوطني من خلال التأثير على الأمن الغذائي للمستهلك والصناعات ذات العلاقة من خلال استخدام الغذاء كوسيلة لفرض الإرادات للدول الصناعية فضلاً عن عدم توفرها بالأسعار المعتدلة ولا بالجودة المناسبة وهذا كله ينعكس على توازن السوق المحلي والذي ينعكس حتماً على جمهور المستهلكين.وفي ظل ضعف نظم الرقابة وعدم وجود المؤسسات ولا الصناعات ولا برامج للتنمية ولا استقرار مع وجود مقاصد إستراتيجية تجعل السوق العراقي مستهدفاً في منهج الدول المتقدمة للإغراق مما يفقد جمهور المستهلكين بشكل مباشر حقوقهم وخياراتهم، ومنظومة حمايتهم. Either by the effects of dumping is creeping towards the system of national security through the impact on food security for consumers and related industries through the use of food as a means of imposing wills of industrialized nations as well as the lack of availability of prices moderate and adequate quality and all this is reflected in the balance of the local market, which is reflected inevitably audience of consumers. In the weak control systems and the absence of institutions and industries, programs for the development or stability with the purposes of the strategy that will make the Iraqi market targeted in the curriculum of the developed countries to dump than they lose consumer directly to their rights and options, and system protection. رابعاً: عيوب آليات الإغراق في منظمة التجارة العالمية على الواقع العراقي Fourth: The disadvantages of the mechanisms of dumping in the WTO on the Iraqi reality أهم العيوب والمشاكل التي تعاني منها منظمة التجارة العالمية في إطار سياسة الإغراق للبلدان المصـــدرة الرئيســـة للغـــذاء وانعكاساتها السلبية على السوق وحقـوق المستـــهلك وحمايته: Most defects and problems of the World Trade Organization under the policy of dumping the main exporting countries for food and its negative repercussions on the market and consumer rights and protection: 1. 1. أن منظمة التجارة العالمية تسمح باستخدام بعض الأدوات التي تحد من حرية التجارة مثل الحماية في حالات الطوارئ ورسوم مكافحة الإغراق والرسوم التعويضية والتي تمثل أدوات استثناء هامة تمكن البلدان المتقدمة من استخدامها في حالات الضرر الذي تتعرض له هذه البلدان الطرف الأقوى بوجه المنتجات المصدرة من قبل البلدان النامية. The World Trade Organization allow the use of some tools that limit the freedom of trade, such as protection in cases of emergency and anti-dumping duties and countervailing duties, which are tools for exception important enabling developed countries to use in cases of damage to these countries, the stronger party in general of products exported by developing countries . في حين ان البلدان النامية ومنها العراق لا يتيح لها القدر الأكبر لممارسة وتطبيق هذه الاستثناءات لانخفاض مرونة الطلب على الاستيرادات وحاجتها الماسة الى مختلف أنواع السلع وهي بصدد القيام بالمشاريع الإنمائية او لسد حاجة السكان من السلع والخدمات. While the developing countries, including Iraq did not allow her the bulk of the practice and application of these exceptions to the low elasticity of demand for imports and the urgent need to the various types of goods are going to do development projects or to fill needs of the population of goods and services. 2. 2. اهتمام المنظمة ومن وراءها البلدان المتقدمة بموضوع اتفاقية حماية حقوق الملكية الفكرية فلن يكون امام العراق والذي يحتاج الى التكنولوجيا او الخبرة في الزراعة الا المشاركة في الاستثمار الأجنبي المباشر الذي يمتلك حق الملكية وما في ذلك من سيطرة على أنشطة السوق المحلية والمغالاة في الأسعار الزراعية . Attention of the Organization is behind the developed countries the subject of the Convention on the protection of intellectual property rights will not be to Iraq and who needs the technology or expertise in agriculture, but participation in foreign direct investment, which has the right to ownership and the control over the activities of the local market and excessive agricultural prices. 3. 3. يعاني العراق من بطالة وعدم وجود فرص عمل متاحة للعديد من السكان النشطين اقتصاديا وخصوصا ممن تركوا أراضيهم الزراعية وبالتالي اللجوء الى قطاع الخدمات والذي لا يزال ضعيفا ومحدودا نسبيا لاسيما تلك مستويات الدخول والمستوى المعاشي لهم. Iraq suffers from unemployment and lack of job opportunities available for many of the economically active population and especially among those who left their agricultural land and therefore resorting to the services sector, which is still relatively weak and limited, especially those income levels and living standards for them. المتعلقة بالبنوك والمصارف والتأمين وانتقال الأموال والسلع ومجال الاتصال والنقل ومجالات الخدمات الهامشية الأخرى وعلى أساس ذلك شكل تحرير تجارة الخدمات المتطورة تكنولوجيا خطورة لاتقل عن خطورة تحرير السلع الزراعية حيث عدم القدرة على المنافسة وما يسبب ذلك من انعكاسات على المستهلك جراء ارتفاع أسعار هذه الخدمات فضلا عن فقدان العديد لفرص عملهم وما في ذلك من انخفاض مستويات الدخول والمستوى المعاشي لهم. Of the banks, banking, insurance and the transfer of funds, goods, communication, transportation and service areas marginal on the basis of the form of liberalization of trade in services technologically advanced gravity of not less than the seriousness of liberalization of agricultural commodities for the inability to compete and cause the impact on consumers due to high prices of these services as well as loss many opportunities for their work and that of low income levels and living standards for them. 4. 4. التعامل الخاطئ مع اتفاقيات منظمة التجارة العالمية، اذ تتخلص بعض الحكومات، ومنها العراق، من جميع سياسات الحماية لصناعتها الوطنية غير مستفيدة من الاستثناءات التي تمنحها الاتفاقيات للدول النامية سواء استثناءات تشريعية أو زمنية لتأهيل صناعتها الوطنية ومساعدتها على تجاوز وضعها الراهن وتأهيلها للمنافسة العادلة وعدم تمييز بعض الحكومات بين مفهوم الاحتكار ومفهوم حماية الصناعة الوطنية من منافسة غير متكافئة ، اذ تتخلى الحكومات عن دورها بدعوى محاربة الاحتكار. Deal wrong with the WTO agreements, as get rid of some governments, including Iraq, of all protection policies to make them national non-beneficiaries of the exceptions granted by the conventions of the developing countries, whether exceptions to legislative or time for the rehabilitation of industry the national and help them overcome the current status and qualify for fair competition and non-discrimination of some governments between the concept of monopoly, and the concept of protecting the national industry to compete with unequal, as Governments would relinquish its antitrust grounds. 5. 5. انفتاح السوق المحلية العراقية على أسواق الدول المجاورة بدون دراسة دقيقة وبدون ضوابط وهو الامر الذي نتج مع الغاء قانون التعريفة الجمركية لعام 1975 من قبل بريمر، الأمر الذي أدى إلى نتائج سلبية على الاقتصاد العراقي تمثلت في انخفاض موارد الدولة وكثرة البطالة وإغلاق العديد من الصناعات وهروب العملات الصعبة الى خارج البلد. Openness of the domestic market of Iraqi neighboring countries without careful consideration and without controls, something which resulted in the abolishment of the Tariff Act of 1975 by Bremer, which led to negative results on the Iraqi economy was in decline in state resources and the large number of unemployment and the closure of many industries and the flight of currency difficult outside the country. وان تباين الظروف التي تعمل فيها الصناعة المحلية مقارنة بالظروف التي تعمل فيها الصناعة الأجنبية والتي تغرق بها الأسواق المحلية، مما شجع تمتعها بجودة وأسعار منافسة الامر الذي سهل إغراق الأسواق المحلية، وفي المقابل عدم قيام الحكومة بالدور الواجب عليها لخلق منافسة متكافئة من خلال تهيئة الظروف المماثلة للصناعات المحلية. And the varying circumstances in which they operate local industry compared to the circumstances in which it operates industry foreign and dumped on local markets, which encouraged its quality and competitive prices, which facilitated flooding of local markets, and in return not to the government its due role to create a level playing field by creating conditions similar local industries. 6. 6. ضعف دور مؤسسات المجتمع المدني في مجال التثقيف والتوعية وكشف المخاطر الصحية والاقتصادية لسياسة الإغراق على الفرد والمجتمع والاقتصاد وهناك أسباب أخرى غير مباشرة تؤدي إلى إغراق السوق المحلية بالبضائع الأجنبيــة منها: ثقل الأعباء الضريبيـــة والجمـركيـــة التي تدفع الى مقاومتهـــا بمختـــلف الطرق والوســـائل ومنها التهريب الفســـاد المالي والإداري في المنافذ الجمركية وتعقد الإجـــراءات المعتمدة المؤدية الى زيادة النفقات على الاستيراد فضلا ً عن مساهمة العديد من المتنفذين في عملية التهريب. Weak role of civil society institutions in the field of education, awareness and detection of health risks and economic policy of dumping on the individual and society, economy and there are other reasons not directly lead to flood the market with local goods, foreign ones: the weight of the burden of tax and customs duties paid to resistance in various ways and means, including smuggling, financial and administrative corruption in customs officials and the complexity of the procedures adopted leading to increased expenditures on imports as well as the contribution of many of the influential in the process of smuggling. 7. 7. عدم وجود آليات واضحة لمكافحة التهريب بالرغم من إقرار مجلس النواب لقانون حماية المنتجـــات العراقيـــة والذي ظــل عاجـزاً عن وضــع الآليـــات المطلوبــة لتشخيـــص حدوث الإغراق وحجمه وأثره وربطه بالسلعـــة المستوردة. The absence of clear mechanisms for anti-smuggling despite parliament's approval of Law on the Protection of Iraqi products and which has been unable to develop the mechanisms required for the diagnosis of dumping and its size and impact and linked to imported commodities.

Well if it is over, lets get those troops home to their families... GOD BLESS AMERICA................. and can we get an RV already!!!!!!

Nothing in this world is a sure thing except of course death and taxes and lots of taxes, lol. I don't bash and dont mind reading this, but I have to respectfully disagree. I dont disagree because I am waiting on pins and needles for an RV, I tend to disagree because there is too much other info out there disputing some of what truthseeker has to say. This post probably belongs in the L-O-P section too since that was mentioned and I disagree with a L-O-P simply becasue it wont help Iraqi citizens or the rest of the world. Ever since 2005 the value of the dinar has been talked about in legal documents with the UN, the U.S and the IMF and it is mentioned that the 3 (000"s) would be removed however the new bank notes would gradually be released and be replacing the old larger bank notes over time until they are all collected. The dinar value would be implemented first and then the older notes traded in. This has been in reports since 2005 and in every single year since then. As I heard in a chat last night: is this a pipe dream or not? Is this an IF or is it a WHEN? I believe whole heartedly it is a when..... GE is sending $3 billion worth of equipment into IRAQ on Aug 27 and they are going to be paid in Dinars and US dollars. They have over $20 billion worth of work in IRAQ. This is huge news and if you dont think the dinar will float up or RV or RI and be worth a lot of money then you are not thinking clearly.

It's more like "Hope You Can Survive The Change" You know, there used to be a few people who supported the Obamanomics on this site, where are they now? The wise never got on the Ship of Hope!

@ cris: Thanks man. When I think of any millionaire, first question in my head is "how much was he willing to sacrifice to get where he is today". I'll tell everyone right now, I'm willing to sacrifice! @ brandedbabe: No regrets either way. Good night everyone it has been a pleasure talking with yall ! But, I gotta wake soon and "make some m#therf%#$@ Dinars!!!!!" PNixon

Meeting August 22nd ~ Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan, Bahrain, Egypt, Turkey, Iran, Iraq and the Arab League ... related article link ~ Sunday, August 22nd Iraq - Arab league - Interior ministers of Iraq's neighbors meet in Manama, Bahraine to discuss Iraq's Security Situation ... 8/17/2010 Arab League to participate in meeting of Iraq''s neighbors Cairo, The Arab League announced on Tuesday its participation in a meeting of Iraq's neighboring countries' interior ministers, due in Bahrain on August 22. The meeting will contribute to supporting stability in Iraq, and neighboring countries are responsible for promoting stability and security in Iraq, Deputy Secretary-General of the Arab League, Ambassador Ahmed Ben Helli said. Several meetings have been held by Iraq's neighboring countries to discuss ways to strengthen cooperation and security between them, which includes border control, inflitration prevention, combating terrorism and organized crime. The countries participating in the meeting are Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan, Bahrain, Egypt, Turkey, Iran, Iraq and the Arab League. http://articlesofinterest-kelley.blogspot.com/2010/08/meeting-august-22nd-kuwait-saudi-arabia.html