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9:17 PM [keepmwlknfny] hows it going sonny? 9:17 PM [audrey williams] hey sonny1 9:17 PM [bumper64] hey sonny1 9:17 PM [sonny1] hello everyone, hope everyone is good 9:17 PM [audrey williams] sonny1 hi everything still going as u thought 9:18 PM [sonny1] audrey williams better 9:18 PM [audrey williams] sonny1 really 9:19 PM [audrey williams] sonny1 tell us about it 9:19 PM [bubbie] sonny1 hey!!! 9:19 PM [Motorco] sonny1 good to hear 9:19 PM [sonny1] yep, according to iraq they had 30 trillion out in currency, and now their claiming the got 21 trillion back with this reducing liquidity process 9:19 PM [bOBBY ROMERO] sonny1 sonny1 sonny1 sonny1 sonny1 9:19 PM [beefcake] sonny1 whats up bud 9:19 PM [dantz57] sonny1 What does that mean? 9:19 PM [sonny1] hey bobby, hey moneyfreak, how you been 9:19 PM [keepmwlknfny] sonny1 so then they are saying they only have like 9 trillion out in circulation? 9:19 PM [Marpat] sonny1 that's bad isn't it?: 9:20 PM [sonny1] beefcake hey 9:20 PM [MoneyFreak] hey sonny1 9:20 PM [linda55] hey sonny1 how are you tonight 9:20 PM [sunglass] Marpat no Marpat what sonny1 said is good 9:20 PM [sonny1] keepmwlknfny thats what their saying 9:20 PM [Motorco] sonny1 so that could possible let the rate float higher? 9:20 PM [sonny1] Motorco possibly 9:20 PM [sonny1] hey linda, im grrrrrrreat 9:21 PM [sonny1] its funny how this came together so quick 9:21 PM [sonny1] WayneC777 is that the final number 9:22 PM [jimbobcookie] hey sonny welcome back 9:22 PM [sonny1] thats crazy, the rv could maybe, and i say maybe be closer to 2.00 9:22 PM [sonny1] MoneyFreak saddam era 9:22 PM [sonny1] jimbobcookie hello 9:22 PM [sunglass] sonny1 you know why the auction was cancelled for 3 days today? 9:23 PM [beefcake] sonny1 do still think they will have a exchange time line for big notes? 9:23 PM [sonny1] beefcake yes i do 9:23 PM [Marpat] sonny1 wooohooo 9:23 PM [beefcake] sonny1 not what i want to hear 9:23 PM [machcobra] sonny1 how come your RV value keeps changing? 9:24 PM [sonny1] Sunglass i dont know why, and i thought it was the t-bill auction and it was canceled 3 days before the auction 9:24 PM [sonny1] beefcake you will be happy at the bank though 9:24 PM [sunglass] sonny1 thanks 9:24 PM [beefcake] sonny1 yeah your right 9:24 PM [sonny1] machcobra circumstances, and i said maybe 9:25 PM [Marpat] sonny1 Thank you for bringing good news!!! 9:25 PM [bOBBY ROMERO] sonny whats ur most outside date.? 9:25 PM [machcobra] sonny1 don't get me wrong, would much rather see 2.00 than 1.40 9:25 PM [sonny1] i find it hard to believe they got back 20-24 trillion, the only way this would of happened is something like a reverse auction 9:26 PM [bOBBY ROMERO] sonny whats ur most outside date.? 9:26 PM [sonny1] bobby romero july 26th 9:26 PM [keepmwlknfny] sonny1 ive always thought their currency autions was a front for them actually buying back their own money.... 9:26 PM [sonny1] at the latest 9:26 PM [bOBBY ROMERO] sonny1 bar none? 9:26 PM [beefcake] sonny1 i thought that they bought iqd back in the auctions not sold 9:26 PM [sonny1] beefcake the wording of the auction is how much they sold 9:26 PM [sonny1] bobby romero yep 9:27 PM [bOBBY ROMERO] sonny1 im withu bro..on ur coat tails.. yee ha 9:27 PM [unitedrich] sonny1 sorry Im late, but what made you increase your amount to $2.00? 9:27 PM [sonny1] MoneyFreak are you still in iraq 9:27 PM [MoneyFreak] sonny1 afghanistan now 9:27 PM [sonny1] how you doing 9:28 PM [sunglass] sonny1 speculating based on that rumor if true 9:28 PM [sonny1] Unitedrich i said maybe, and because of the dinar they took back in 9:28 PM [MoneyFreak] sonny1 good actually guys this is his son in law and im on his cause he wanted me to ask you guys but i just got off the phone with him and he says hi everyone 9:28 PM [unitedrich] sonny1 ok thx 9:28 PM [sunglass] sorry sonny1 just tryin to help ;( 9:28 PM [sonny1] MoneyFreak tell him to get home soon-safe 9:28 PM [linda55] sonny1 , do you know when it will rv 9:28 PM [MoneyFreak] sonny1 he doesnt get real good inet service at his new camp 9:29 PM [sunglass] Unitedrich i was tryin to help sonny 9:29 PM [sonny1] linda55 if i knew the date for sure........i wouldnt be on the internet, but the latest is july 26th 9:29 PM [bOBBY ROMERO] sonny1 whatta bout dat VND VND ting? 9:30 PM [sonny1] WayneC777 if thats true, and their not b.sing it smells like an rv 9:30 PM [sonny1] BOBBY ROMERO no nothing about it 9:32 PM [sonny1] we are sooooooo close, their telling us whats happening, turn up you volumes folks......... 9:32 PM [sonny1] your 9:32 PM [lambert] sonny1 9:33 PM [chas32] sonny1 thanks. 9:33 PM [bOBBY ROMERO] sonny1 thk u 9:33 PM [sonny1] happy gilmore reference 9:33 PM [audrey williams] sonny1 have yu talked to Adam ..does he feel the same 9:33 PM [Marpat] sonny1 Thank you for your encouragement!! 9:33 PM [sonny1] audrey williams havent talked to him 9:34 PM [audrey williams] sonny1 ok just wondering if he heard the same...or anythin from his cbi dude 9:34 PM [linda55] sonny1 , i could squeeze the puddin out of you , you are so sweet 9:34 PM [sonny1] linda55 9:35 PM [sonny1] Bumper64 you get some 9:35 PM [bumper64] sonny1 nope!! thats why no return date!! j/k 9:35 PM [sonny1] Bumper64 i gotta teach you how to close. 9:36 PM [bumper64] sonny1 Sometimes you just might not want to close after talking to her 9:36 PM [sonny1] 9:37 PM [gwright] sonny1 my goodness who'd a thunk 9:37 PM [audrey williams] sonny1 thank you for the info...so encouraaging 9:37 PM [sonny1] well gotta go, its looking great everyone, keep your chins up. plus reducing liquidity is a major step towards a rv. it gets iraq an actual figure....... very good......very good........later all 9:38 PM [unitedrich] sonny1 gnite 9:38 PM [Lacey] sonny1 ty 9:38 PM [bumper64] sonny1 later bro 9:38 PM [bigrocks85] sonny1 bye thanks 9:38 PM [Marpat] sonny1 Thanks again!!!! 9:38 PM [bOBBY ROMERO] sonny1 sonny1 sonny1 bye guy 9:38 PM [trishberg] thank you sonny1

Med Chat: Dinar Speculator 6/7/10 8:30pm June 8, 2010 · Posted in CHATS / POSTS Med: SONNY CALLED ME ABOUT A 5 DINAR NOTE THAT IS POSTED ON DVII Med: THAT SOMEONE BROUGHT BACK FROM IRAQ Med: I LOOKED AT IT FOR HIM Med: AND THE NOTE IS FROM 1941-12-1 Med: SO HE WAS A BIT BUMMED Med: HERE HE THOUGHT IT WAS ONE OF THE NEW ONES Med: THEN I POINTED OUT THE DATE OF ISSUE Med: ON THE NOTE Med: OK NOW TO THE REST OF THE STORY Med: AND YES IT IS VERY GOOD NEWS Med: IT IS ABOUT THE FEAR OF THE LOP Med: AND THE CONTINUED TALK OF REMOVAL OF THE 3 ZERO’S Med: AND THAT 25K NOTES WILL BE 25 DINAR NOTES Med: WE HAVE BEEN CONSULTING IN HIS FRIEND QUITE ABIT Med: WHO IS A RETIRED PROFESSOR OF MIDDLE EASTERN ECONOMICS Med: AND SONNY TALKED TO HIM FOR AN HR ABOUT SOME OF HIS AND MY CONCERNS Med: HERE IS THE GOOD NEWS AND IT IS EASY TO UNDERSTAND Med: IF YOU ARE LOPPING Med: AND GOING TO REMOVE THE ZERO’S FROM THE NOTES THAT ARE 1K AND ABOVE Med: THEN YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO NEED TO REMOVE THEM FROM LIQUIDITY Med: NO REASON WHAT SO EVER Med: THEY WOULD HAVE VERY LITTLE TO COVER IN THE WAY OF LIQUIDITY Med: AND IT WOULD NOT MATTER IF THEY HAD 9 TRILLION OR NOT Med: OR 32 TRILLION IQD OUT Med: BECAUSE THAT 32 TRILLION IS ONLY WORTH 32 BILLION USD Med: APPROX.. Med: AND THEY HAVE MORE THAN THAT IN CBI ITSELF Med: AND YOU ONLY NEED 25% TO COVER YOU LIQUIDITY Med: SO THE ONLY REASON YOU NEED TO REMOVE LIQUIDITY SONNY’S FRIEND SAID Med: IS THAT THOSE LARGE DENOMS WILL BE WORTH THE FACE VALUE Med: A 1K WILL BE WORTH 1000 DINAR AND SO ON Med: SO THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO LOP COMING Med: DO YOU ALL UNDERSTAND HOW I EXPLAINED IT aceandspeed: yes thank you Med: SONNY’S FRIEND IS THINKING THAT WE ARE NOT WAITING FOR THE NEW GOVT TO FORM Med: THAT ONLY PARLIAMENT WILL BE SEATED Med: AND THAT ALL INDICATIONS AND ACTIONS BY THE CBI Med: ARE POINTING TO A RATE CHANGE SOON Med: OK ACEAN WHAT IS THE ? aceandspeed: You kind of answered it already. But,, with the removal of all the liquidity is there a time frame for them to rv in order to keep purchasing power and speculation plus last minute investors in check? I hope I asked that right? Med: NO BECAUSE BY REMOVING LIQUIDITY IT ONLY STRENGHTENED THE PURCHASING POWER OF THE IQD Med: BY LESS LIQUIDITY AND THE SAME FOREIGN CURRENCY ASSETS Med: YOU HAVE MORE STRENGTH IN THE CURRENCY Med: BUT ONLY IN IRAQ Med: AND STRENGTH IN THE CURRENCY ALSO COMES FROM THE PEOPLE USING IT AND THEM HAVING CONFIDENCE IN IT email70818: Would they pull out that much currency so fast and easy if they planned on rv months away Med: OK IT WASN’T FAST Med: IT WAS BEING DONE SINCE JULY OF 08 the baroness: Groovgal still talking $3.00 Groovgal: 2.30 – 3 + masterkim: Med I have a ? on an article. Med: SURE MK masterkim: http://www.********************.com/showthread.php?15168 Med: LET ME READ IT Med: OK I HAVE IT Med: OK THIS IS HOW PARLIAMENT IS GOING TO GO Med: THEY WILL BE CONVENING THIS WEEK Med: THEY WILL SWEAR IN THE NEW WINNERS OF THE SEATS Med: THEN PARLIAMENT WILL BE SUSPENDED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE Med: UNLESS THERE IS AN EMERGENCY AND PARLIAMENT IS NEEDED TO MAKE A DECISION Med: THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE DISCUSSIONS GOING ON RIGHT NOW Med: BETWEEN THE IRAQI LIST, INA AND SADRISTS AND KURD ALLIANCE Med: APPARENTLY THE COALITION WITH MALIKI IS DEAD Med: AND HE IS OUT Med: THE SADRISTS STATED TODAY THAT THEY WILL NOT BACK ANY CANDIDATE FROM THE RULE OF LAW Med: NO MATTER WHO IT IS Med: THIS WAS SADR’S PAYBACK TO MALIKI FOR BETRAYING HIM Med: AND AFTER READING WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THEM Med: YES MALIKI DID BETRAY SADR Med: WHO BACKED MALIKI Med: GOT HIM ELECTED Med: AND THEN MALIKI HAD THOUSANDS OF SADRISTS ARRESTED AND IMPRISONED Med: AND THEN HE ATTACKED THE MEHDI ARMY Med: AND FORCED SADR INTO EXILE IN IRAN masterkim: That was a very, very low life thing Maliki did to Sadr. Med: YES IT WAS masterkim: So, since the professor said they may RV without the PM being known, this becomes a mute point? butterfly: med, is them callin the session then suspending it the same thing they did in 2005? Med: NO Med: THEY CANNOT GO INDEFINATE Med: IN FACT Med: THEY ONLY HAVE 15 DAYS TO VOTE ON THE PRESIDENT dooda: so a vote is not needed for an RV at this point….it is not considered a change in “law” anymore? it is just up to the IMF to release? or do you think that there will be some needed discussion within parliament? Med: NO PARLIAMENT HAS NO SAY IN AN RV Med: NONE Med: IT WOULD TAKE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO DO IT Med: AND THEY WON’T DO IT Med: IF THE CENTRAL BANK SAYS IT IS TIME Med: AND THE IMF AGREES Med: THEN THE PM CAN ANNOUNCE IT Med: NOW ALSO THE PM CAN GO TO THE IMF Med: AND REQUEST THAT THEY REVALUE OR REBASE IT ON HIS REQUEST Med: THE IMF HAS SET THE POLICY FOR THE CENTRAL BANK Med: AS WE KNOW FROM SHABIBI’S 08 INTERVIEW Med: THERE POLICY WAS DEVELOPED BY THE IMF Med: AND UNDER THE NEW SBA Med: THEY HAVE THE SAME AUTHORITY Med: BUT IF THEY WERE TO FORCE AN RV Med: AND IT FAILED Med: THEN THE IMF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LOSS Med: WHICH WOULD BE TRILLIONS Med: SO THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CAUTIOUS Med: AND ARE LETTING THINGS JUST PLAY OUT Med: AND THEY ARE VERY WELL Med: NOW PARLIAMENT CANNOT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION Med: SUSPEND INDEFINATELY Med: THEY MUST NOMINATE A PRESIDENT Med: IN 15 DAYS FROM THE 1ST MEETING Med: AND THEN THE NEW PRESIDENT MUST CALL THE WINNING BLOC TO FORM Med: WITHIN 15 DAYS Med: AND AS WE KNOW SO MANY THINGS CHANGE HERE Med: THE DYNAMICS ARE SO CRAZY Med: AND I AM SURE THE REASONS FOR THE ACTUAL SUSPENDING WILL COME OUT SOON Med: IN FACT IN THE ARTICLE IT SPECIFIES WHAT I ADDRESSED masterkim: Since Sonny’s friend said we may only be waiting for the parliament to be seated, who would go to the IMF in place of the PM if there is no PM? Med: CBI Med: OR THE IMF THEMSELVES Med: CAN DO IT masterkim: Will the CBI do it do you think? Med: NO CLUE Med: BUT THEY DIDN’T DO ALL THIS FOR NOTHING Med: 3 MONTHS AGO THEY SAID THEY WEREN’T READY Med: BUT THAT WAS AN ETERNITY AGO masterkim: And you just addressed the IMF reasons for being conservative on forcing it. Med: YES Med: TOO MANY OTHER OF THE SO CALLED GURUS Med: DON’T EVEN LOOK AT THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION Med: OR THE ACTUAL ECONOMICS OR THE LIQUIDITY ISSUE THAT WAS THERE Med: OR THAT FACT THAT MALIKI ALMOST CREATED A CIVIL WAR Med: AND DESTABILIZED THE ENTIRE COUNTRY keep it real: yes they still see this RV at 3+, and i find that hard to believe Med: WHAT GG WAS SAYING WAS NOT A DEFINATE RATE THAT HIGH Med: THERE WERE TWO SCENARIOS SHE DISCUSSED WITH ME Med: AND THEY HAD TO DO WITH WHAT WOULD TO DO THE LEAST DAMAGE TO THE IQD Med: WHEN INVESTORS TURNED IN THE IQD Med: AND WOULD IT LEAVE ROOM FOR WEALTHY TO JUMP IN AT THE LAST MINUTE Med: WE ALL REMEMBER THE OIL DON’T WE Med: IT SHOT TO ALMOST $150 A BARREL Med: THROUGH INVESTORS MANIPULATING THE RATE Med: THEN THEY CASHED OUT Med: AND WHAT HAPPENED Med: IT PLUMMETED Med: TO UNDER $40 Med: AND IT THREW COUNTRIES LIKE IRAQ INTO A TAILSPIN Med: BECAUSE IT TOTALLY SCREWED UP THEIR BUDGETS Med: AND IT THREW US INTO A CRISIS Med: NOBODY WAS DRIVING ANYWHERE Med: NOBODY WAS BUYING CARS Med: HUNDREDS OF DEALERSHIPS WENT UNDER Med: SEE THE DOMINO EFFECT OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF THE IQD SKYROCKETED BY MANIPULATING INVESTORS Med: AND THEN CASHED OUT BILLIONS Med: THE IQD WOULD TANK LIKE THE YAUN DID Med: DID I EXPLAIN IT OK Med: TO UNDERSTAND keep it real: yes u did, perfect Got-UR-back dino: May I still ask your take on cbi halting t-bill auctions? any significance to rv? Med: GOT UR BACK Med: NO Med: NOTHING Med: SONNY AND I AND THE PROFESSOR DISCUSSED THIS ALSO Med: HE FELT IT HAD NO INFRANCE geezer12: Med, doesn’t that explain why the IQd would get hit hard by big specualtion if they came out <1 Med: THEY AREN’T SURE Med: IT IS A FLIP Med: OF THE COIN Med: AND SO FAR Med: IRAQ HAS CALLED HEADS ALL THE TIME Med: NOT KNOWING IT WAS A DOUBLE SIDED TAILS COIN trainwreck74: Med…I saw a pic of the supposed 5 dinar note and it looks exactly like a 5k note, but red. A hoax? Med: NO IT IS NOT A HOAX Med: IT IS AN ACTUAL 5 DINAR NOTE Med: BUT IT IS FROM 1941 Med: THE DATE IS ABOVE THE WATERFALLS Med: NOBODY NOTICED IT UNTIL I DID WHEN I WAS ASKED TO CHECK IT OUT FOR MY FRIEND Med: THEN HE SAW IT TOO Med: IT ALSO HAS NO SECURITY FEATURES ON IT Med: IF YOU LOOK AT THE 1 DINAR NOTE I HAVE POSTED Med: THE NEW SECURITY FEATURE IS VERY PREVALENT moonbeam: Med, do you know if there is a date on all the notes? Med: NOT SURE trainwreck74: Med…why is the 5k note so similar? Did they use old printing plates to save money? Med: LOOK AT OURS TRAINWRECK Med: REALLY EXCEPT FOR THE COLOR Med: DID THE DOLLAR REALLY CHANGE Med: WHEN WE WENT FROM THE BROWN BILLS TO THE GREEN Med: I HAVE A $20 BROWN Med: AND REALLY YOU CAN HARDLY TELL THE DIFFERENCE kenstrip: med grovgals friend and sonnys friend both said only parliament has to be seated for rv.did cb projectionest or ***** agree with this Med: WELL THE PROJECTIONISTS WANT THE GOVT SEATED Med: BUT ***** DOES NOT FEEL THAT THEY NEED A PM Med: TO RV Med: HE SAID HE WISHES THAT HE HAD ONE RUMOR ABOUT THE NEW DENOMS REALLY PAN OUT Med: THAT SOMEONE TRUSTWORTHY ACTUALLY SAW THEM

Central Bank of Iraq makes plans for private sector support 08.06.2010 Emad Jassim Deputy Central Bank Governor Ahmed Bureihi that the Bank's plans moving toward consolidation of private-sector work to breathe life back into business life and urban, industrial and investment. Bureihi explained that the integrated program of action put under the supervision of experts, economists and academics to implement these plans, despite the constraints, and said the biggest obstacle to the implementation of those plans is the lack of confidence in government and private banks, which is a bridge of convergence between the Bank and who wish to receive loans encourage their work, as well as non- confidence commitments of traders and entrepreneurs and growing fears of security and political conditions are very unstable, so they exaggerate the application of safeguards do not give loans easily, because it is responsible before the central bank for the return of financial receivables, and they should be cautious in granting loans, making it apply the instructions of the Central Bank of the a lot of obstacles and difficulties. Bureihi stressed that the central bank began cutting interest loans, which recently arrived at 6% in an attempt to push for the revitalization of the private sector and to overcome the difficulties the monetary and banking to enable the dealers or owners of factories and workshops for private or holders of commercial projects range from in order to activate their business and to continue their projects of different varieties to run workforce after they invaded Iraqi markets of imported goods has also prevented the development of national industry, and stopped most of the industrial companies and factories with a production history and reputation of the task and the great work. Although the steps and measures have been welcomed the central bank and the complacency of many of the owners of capital, but that those concerned with economic affairs and found that the policy of the CBI is still inadequate and poorly understood and clear in some cases. The expert said the economic peace Sumaisem to a discrepancy and contradiction in the ECB's monetary and fiscal policy or economic, as the reduction of interest rates of loans that would lead to an increase in inflation, by injecting large amounts, with assurances the Central Bank of the necessity and importance to improve the value of the Iraqi dinar. http://translate.goo...n&hl=en&ie=UTF8 If your trying see the original article you need to click the ecomomy tab and you will see it. Sorry, Carla

I'm sticking with Sonny on this one.... there are reasons why they must RV sooner than October. They have signed contracts and over 100 US companies ready to move in and fulfill those contracts. They're not going to be paid with toilet paper. Go RV!!!!

Phoenix update: June 7th 2010 Update: Well, well, well. I spy with my little eye.....forum after forum all proclaiming the same things. I see thousands of people who have fallen into the trap of becoming emotionally vested into the political situation in Iraq for no reason at all. I see claims of "facts" being made with no proof. One of the most common so called "facts" goes something like this: Quote from one of the forums: (Quote) "NOW GOING ON THE FACTS OF THE MATTER WHAT ARE THEY REALLY ... DID ALLAWI STATE THAT HE WANTS AN RV OF THE DINAR? YES". (End Quote) Wow...now that is quite a claim being made by all of the forums! I say that is NOT a fact but total BS. I challenge anyone to please provide proof of this statement with a link right to Allawi himself saying this. I dare to say it cannot be found because it is nothing less than a fabrication and lie. Here are some real facts: Fact: The Prime Minister of Iraq has NOTHING to do with the exchange rate of the Iraqi Dinar. Fact: If the next Prime Minister is Maliki or one of his close right hand men it will NOT delay the removal of Chapter 7 or the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar in any way. Fact: 4 weeks ago a delegation from the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) came to Iraq to meet with Maliki and the President of Kurdistan on the future of Iraq. Fact: The CFR delegation did NOT meet with Allawi or anyone from his party. This visit from the CFR to see Maliki was an indication to all with eyes to "see" that the "King Makers" (the CFR) had made their choice. So here we are...it appears that this week we will see the Parliament seated in Iraq and also the announcement of the new Prime Minister. This is good and is needed for the forward progress in Iraq and with the economic situation that will effect all investors involved with Iraq and the Iraqi Dinar. BUT! Please stay grounded! If you have fallen into the emotional trap set by most of the forums and have allowed yourself to be wrongly lead to believe that if Maliki or one of his men become Prime Minister that all will be lost take heart....for that is NOT the case!~ If Maliki or one of his right hand men become the next Prime Minister of Iraq all is well. In fact...do not be surprised to see glowing commentary about Maliki and his record and his future vision for Iraq from sources such as "News Week" and "Time" just to name a few. As I have said before many times....things are not as they seem. But after sitting back for 4 weeks watching this cross forum "myopic" misinformation I just had to speak up. I am seeing way too many people being painted into an emotional corner by forum leaders all over and in doing so setting thousands of people up for a great emotional let down for no reason at all. Speaking of "myopic' misinformation....the word "myopic" means : a lack of foresight or discernment : a narrow view of something And this "narrow view" of the true situation being put forward by all of the forums combined with false information is a classic set up for the emotional turmoil and let down of thousands of people who blindly follow the forum leaders and I hope that this post will help some to stay balanced and hopeful when the results of this weeks announcements in Iraq are made public. All in all it is all good. Hang in there. Phoenix

Some people are like the crabs at the bottom of the bucket, pulling other people down with their negative opinions. Are we crazy for thinking we will be rewarded $500,000 to 1 milliion off a thousand dollar investment...I must admit..it does sound crazy but if it will ever happen....This is the TIME for it. We are in the eye of the PERFECT STORM. Good Luck everyone and DON't EVER be the crab at the bottom of the bucket pulling someone down in life!!! Go RV July 1st .86 cents

As of now, there is not an international exchange rate that dictates the value of the New Iraqi Dinar. The currency came out in 2003 and people who have bought the Dinar with Dollars have helped double the Dinar's value. The current value is based off current program exchange rate determined by the IMF and the Central Bank of Iraq. If you want to buy the currency, you cannot go to a bank and get it. You need to use the services of registered money brokers to buy the New Dinar and exchange it for the currency you like when the international exchange rate is set. Hold a Stake in Iraq's Success Consider this: prior to the Gulf War, you needed $3,200,000 to buy 1 million Iraqi Dinars. However, today you can buy the same number of Iraqi Dinars for $1,199. Did you know that the US has invested over $ 200 billion for the future of Iraq so far and committed to investing much more in the future? Due to this, speculators are buying the New Dinar up in billions. Currently, you can buy close to 100,000 New Iraqi Dinars for $100. They have the world's third largest identified oil reserve and with the new government, they have been tapping into it. A number of oil companies are expressing interest in the Iraqi oil reserves too, and it won't be long before the Iraqi Dinars will be worth a lot more. Even in the midst of all the chaos and political uncertainty, the Iraqi dinar has managed to appreciate by 25% (since 2003) and forecasters predict continued appreciation. With confidence in the currency, stability and growth are sure to follow shortly and it is definitely a good idea to be a part of it!

ddw1263 and Rhnda, You don't have to be negative to share facts or opinions. I think it is your negative attitude rather than opposing opinion that bothers folks here. People make investments based on personal decisions, right or wrong. Please, go do something good for yourself, which probably has nothing to do with posting on a forum for dinar investors. luckylucy

Traconesu02, Thanks as always for taking the time to post these chats for everyone to read!!

.............funny how two nay-sayers posted back to back, likely from the same URL, how much do they pay you to try to discourage people from buying more dinar?............how many other sites do you spin your web on?..........notice they both use the same "quote base timestamp/post#".........this is just a chain yanker folks,........and we do have people on the ground in Iraq, no 25,000=25 exchanges are taking place there,............baaah-FOOOEY, YOU'VE GOT NO INTEREST THEN YOU HAVE NO PURPOSE HERE, CLOSE THE DOOR BEHIND YOU ON YOUR WAY OUT

Allawi looking preparations to form a government with al-Hakim by pepper - Dinar Speculator Published on 06-08-2010 @ 05:45 AM 08/06/2010 BAGHDAD (Agencies): Amid the political movement witnessed by the political blocs and the quest to form a government of national partnership with the participation of all parties and not to marginalize or exclude any political component, or a national received Mr. Ammar Hakim, head of Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council yesterday evening, 7 in his office in Baghdad, Iyad Allawi, prime-based Iraq and the delegation accompanying him. During the meeting, discuss the latest developments in the political scene, in Iraq and to strive to overcome obstacles to forming the next government. In a press statement following the meeting, Allawi stressed that the consultation that took place today is an extension of the consultation is continuing with the Supreme Council of the days to address the previous regime, noting that there is broad consensus of views regarding the need to speed up the formation of the government after the parliament as soon as possible, as has been talk of the task in the way of calming the atmosphere and pave the way for formation of a government doing what in the service of the Iraqi people, stressing that this meeting has been characterized by openness and the need to gather the political forces that won that did not win to start the dialogue and serious negotiations on forming a government involving all constituents of the Iraqi people, valuing the role played by the coalition Iraq's national political parties to attract and open to serious dialogue in the interest of the country. For his part, Hakim said that the dialogues circuits had been marked by frankness and transparency for the coordination and cooperation between Shazly state of law and the national and the Iraqi List and the Kurdistan Alliance and lists winning the other, hinting that there is a serious will to hold the House of Representatives and speed up the formation of the government and there are perceptions very common in connection with the nature of true partnership required for the next stage and the prospects for a genuine resolve dilemmas more coordination, communication and serious meetings in the next few days. The meeting was attended both by the Vice-President Adel Abdul-Mahdi, and Reda Jawad Taqi, Mohsen Hakim, political advisor to the President of the Supreme Council and the Iraqi List, Sheikh Jamal and Sheikh Adnan melon Aldenbos and Sheikh Hussein al-Shaalan.

Ok people....lets put our heads together for a moment and think about it all...now of course this is just my opinion and I want to hear everyone else's thoughts as well but i thought i would bring a different kind of thinking to the table and see what you all think...here goes.....ok we all know that translating all these articles is a headache to say the least...they speak a different language and also use a completely different vocabulary of words to communicate their messages compared to our language, they dont use the same words we would to describe the same thing....keeping that in mind lets talk about all these conflicting articles that come out talking about removing/deleting the zeros and redenominating and how it relates to a RV...basically them saying that they want to remove the three zeros or delete them could be there way of simply stating getting rid of the higher bills....now for them to do that it would only make sense that they would have to raise the value of the currency and put out the smaller bills to retract all of the bigger bills to be destroyed or whatever it is they plan on doing with them....that being said thats what we all want...plain and simple...we want them to remove the zeros, by them doing that, change of some sort will need to take place....we have all heard about the newer smaller denoms waiting to be released, nothing about newer bills of the same that are out now 25k, 10k etc etc.....so again thats good...but of course the smaller denoms we wont see until the currency gains value cause otherwise they would be worthless!! Redenomination is what we also want...and that is in itself is changing to the smaller bills...changing the currency by making smaller denominations of bills to be used which wouldnt make much sense for them to do at the current value so again they will need to change the currencies value...which again is what we want.....they say that a 25k note will be equal to 25 dinar note....if you think about it they could be meaning that the new 25 dinar note would have the same PURCHASING power as an old 25k note when they change the rates and values....not that the 25k note is actually only going to be 25 dinar....a 25k dinar note will still be 25k dinar no matter how you slice it....it would be almost like saying well sir your 100 dollar bill is only 1 dollar....i dont quite think that it works that way....please someone step in and tell me if im just completely out of my mind in these thoughts hahaha....anyways what your bill has printed on it will never change...they have to honor what you have point blank...not to mention that we would all be pretty much exchanging our dinar for US dollars....not dinar for more dinar....so no matter how you say it if the exchange rate is lets just say 86 cents and you hand them a 25k note, your giving them 25k dinars which would give you 21,500 US dollars when exchanged....thats why i believe the whole exchanging window is for so that you dont get screwed because lets face it, Iraq cant afford to screw anyone over with the position they are in....then after a certain point they will render those largers bills useless or null and void when they get pretty much all of them collected....and i think alot of that has to do with the fact of problems of counterfitting the bills...yes they were very smart in designing the new bills but when it comes to money people where there is a will there is a way...and i have talked to a couple of our troops fresh from Iraq and listened to them talk about all the problems of counterfitting the newer bills so i dont think im just pullin that one out of my arse....he was told thats PART of the reason for all the talk of deleting or removing the zeros from circulation, of course there are other bigger reasons but that has a little play in things...why do you think the US changes the bills every so often? so really when you see all these removing the zeros/ redenomination articles dont get scared or worried....i think its all really meaning what we want to hear them say...that they are changing the value of their currency and putting it closer in value to the american dollar...they are just using words that we arent used to using to describe the same actions....what they say and what it actually translates to in our language could very well be different....i mean hell alot of them dont even recognize the term revalue in itself....they just know their money will be worth more and that the value is changing....if you take all the articles and think what makes more sense or what would be the simplest explanation, ( cause thats usually the case) are all these articles coming out conflicting information and confusing the world on purpose or could they actually all in one way or another mean the same thing, that they are going to remove the bigger bills cause they wont need them when they raise the value of their currency.... i mean come on people we know they are not going to be taking steps back, only foward...they cant move backward and expect people to invest in their country...that just doesnt make sense no matter how you try to explain it...they are a growing country and can only come up in the world from what they were previously....now let me remind you this is all one mans opinion in the matter....just putting my thoughts forward and seeing what others think about this....please feel free to comment and add your own ideas and opinions....i mean hell we are all here for the same reason so we should get together collectively and see what everyones ideas on the matter are.....and last but not least........GO RV!!! YA DIG?!?! hahaha i have to add that yes ive had a lot to drink before writing this but hey its been on my mind for the longest and you know what they say about true thoughts and feelings coming out when your drunk hahaha....oh well......had to get it out there....nothing better to do this late at night.....

AngelQuest Post: NEWS ARTICLES - 6/8/10 KTF Missions - by JANIB June 8, 2010 · Posted in DDT - CHATS / POSTS Our JANIB found yet another article from today showing the parliment has been seated and is meeting…….THANKS JANIB dont work tooo hard at work….catch you later…Thanks for all you do… Allawi: The size of pressure on us in the next phase will reduce the physical liquidation Posted 08/06/2010 03:01 PM Firas al-Qaisi of Baghdad: The head of the Iraqi List, Iyad Allawi The existence of the conspiracies being hatched against the Iraqi List, noting that the list is still offering more of the martyrs who are the title of the new Iraq which will be for all Iraqis, he said, expecting to increase the elements of the pressure on the Iraqi in the next phase, which could reach to the extent of physical elimination, but this is not to give , because the faith in the country and the people more of these methods, as he put it. Allawi said in a speech at the meeting of the day, and was attended by representatives of Iraq in the next parliament: the plots will not increase the Iraqi List, but determined to liberate Iraq from the chaos, oppression and exclusion of the opposition. ” how can he meet if they say no meeting has been called to seat the parliment….. He Allawi that the battle will be tough between extremism and moderation, between national forces and the forces that want Iraq to remain in the quagmire of sectarian and that this battle will be tough and will not end in a day or two but will take a long time to come out of Iraq from the neck of the bottle. He Our brothers in the repressed regime colonies, and others Talthm ablation techniques, arbitrary, and unjust persecution. ” Allawi and the new MPs were not authorized in the media, only to persons authorized to declare. Noting that there are attempts to divide the Iraqi National List, these attempts will not succeed and will be in vain to the dustbin of history. Increased That there are members of the Iraqi National List have been subjected to the temptations of certain sites and gave them money to push them towards leaving the Iraqi National List, but they stayed on their adherence to the list Iraqi national project integrated. He Some articles of the constitution written in haste, and all international norms and democratic experiences explicitly emphasizes that the list that won the elections form the government even though it won only one vote. Adding The dialogues that took place and drafts written between the political blocs to indicate this is a clear and explicit. __________________ Good Day, JaniB Here's a link to an article that shows they met on Monday 7 June:

Chief, Feel free to ramble all you want! I'll listen. You have no idea how much respect I have for you and what you are doing over there! Army-68 thru 77. Son-22yrs in just finished Sgt. Major acadamy. Iraqi freedom-pushed from Kuwait to Mosul. So, I understand somewhat what you deal with and worry about on a daily basis. Above all else be safe! I believe you know more than all the speculators and gurus put together because you can see what is going on and ask questions. I look forward to all the info you supply and share with us. God Bless!

Scooter chat 06-07-2010 Outside Source (S****r) 20:10:31 [scooter] Good Evening 20:10:35 [scooter] I hope all is well with you because I am doing outstanding!!!! 20:10:52 [scooter] First, I want to thank everyone over the last couple of weeks for their support and kind remarks --- Those comments mean a great deal and add significant motivation to dig deeper. Again, thank you all!!!! 20:11:12 [scooter] Now, on to the chat and latest research. 20:11:33 [scooter] Tonight we will be digging into the following document from the IMF ---- 2010 International Monetary Fund ---- March 2010 ----- IMF Country Report No. 10/7 20:12:08 [scooter] Let’s just say I encountered an EPIPHANY in several areas and we’ll talk through them tonight ! 20:12:54 [scooter] In fact -- after reading this material 20:13:00 [dbcooper] Scooter yes sir! as good as could be expected! 20:13:06 [scooter] I almost changed my date prediction 20:13:13 [scooter] It was that good 20:13:35 [scooter] Oh wait a minute --- I don't have a date prediction -- sorry 20:13:51 [scooter] First, If you haven’t seen this post ----{ LINK Unavailable - See Post #4 in Thread} 20:14:06 [scooter] Please review it at your earliest ----- It’s very telling in terms of the RV ---- Right now I am waiting for my Genius Mathematical minded Economic guru Wife to calculate this out and tell me what the rate projection is. In due time --- it’s going to cost me!!!! 20:14:42 [scooter] When you review this -- remember --- the IMF will speak to you in several languages 20:14:52 [scooter] There's real gdp 20:15:08 [scooter] and now they've turned the channel and are speaking in Nominal GDP 20:15:18 [scooter] Nominal Exchange Rates 20:15:21 [scooter] Nominal is a key word 20:15:38 [scooter] And look at the footnootes at the bottom 20:15:49 [scooter] Secondly 20:16:04 [scooter] Look at the 2010 vs 2011 period 20:16:20 [scooter] You'll start to see the significance of this Development Plan --- DPL 20:16:40 [scooter] Essentially, This post is a Debt Sustainability Study ----- They want to know if Iraq can sustain the debt after the RV ---- Obvioiusly the results are very good --- please review at your leisure! 20:17:36 [scooter] The second item I wanted to talk about are the Annex Pages and PIN's (public information notice's 20:17:46 [scooter] Very good stuff at the end of the document 20:18:22 [scooter] before I jump to deep -- I wanted to show you how the IMF expressed the current exchanged rate 20:17:53 [scooter] Now -- 20:18:58 [scooter] this comes from the same document and dated December 31, 2009 20:19:08 [scooter] IX. Exchange rate arrangement: The Central Bank of Iraq has been conducting foreign exchange auction on a daily basis since October 4, 2003. The central bank followed a policy of exchange rate stability which has translated in a de facto peg of the exchange rate since early 2004. 20:19:31 [scooter] Notice the de facto peg 20:19:44 [scooter] However, from November 2006 until end 2008, the CBI allowed the exchange rate to gradually appreciate. As a result, the exchange rate arrangement of Iraq was reclassified to the category of crawling peg effective November 1, 2006. 20:20:00 [scooter] I love this 20:20:20 [scooter] A "Crawling Peg" --- Completely intentional! 20:20:30 [scooter] Since the start of 2009, the CBI returned to its earlier policy of maintaining a stable dinar. Consequently, the exchange rate arrangement of Iraq was reclassified effective January 1 2009 as a stabilized arrangement. 20:21:18 [scooter] Essentially --- Shabibi was free to resume a "Crawling appreciation of Value --- 20:21:36 [scooter] Cracks me up ---- Drove us crazy --- but there is a point 20:22:07 [scooter] The second thing that I thought was imperative to show ----- DBCooper You might like these 4 items 20:22:21 [scooter] Iraq continues to avail itself of the transitional arrangements under Article XIV. Iraq has a generally unrestricted current account regime and a significantly liberalized capital account. However, four measures (plus one exchange restriction maintained for national or international security) have been identified to give rise to exchange restrictions subject to IMF approval, namely, 20:23:19 [scooter] Essentially -- here are the rules of engagement for people and companies inside of iraq --- Even the terrorist will be tracked 20:23:34 [scooter] (i) the requirement to pay all obligations and debts to the government before proceeds of investments of investors, and salaries and other compensation of non-Iraqi employees may be transferred out of Iraq. 20:24:33 [scooter] Iraq must pay all its obligations --- Paris Club takes care of this 20:24:37 [scooter] (ii) the requirement to submit a tax certificate and a letter of non-objection stating that the companies do not owe any taxes to the government before non-Iraqi companies may transfer proceeds of current international transactions out of the country 20:25:27 [scooter] Essentially ---- Corporations better pay the tax before nationalizing any funds ---- 20:25:42 [scooter] If you recall --- this tax stamp was discuss 4 weeks ago 20:25:58 [scooter] (iii) the requirement that before non-Iraqis may transfer proceeds in excess of ID 15 million out of Iraq, the banks are required to give due consideration of legal obligations of these persons with respect to official entities, which must be settled before allowing any transfer. 20:26:59 [scooter] That's similar to the US and the $10,000 rule 20:27:15 [scooter] except this is 15 million IQD's 20:27:23 [scooter] (iv) Iraqi balance owed to Jordan under an inoperative bilateral payments agreement. 20:28:11 [scooter] ---- There hasn't been much news on Jordan and the refugees cost --- but it does top the $1. 4 Billion mark -- 20:28:14 [scooter] I don't know where they stand on this part 20:28:21 [scooter] But I am finding out --- 20:28:41 [scooter] My hope is that my good friend Armondtoth will be able to share this information 20:28:47 [scooter] Finally --- 20:28:56 [scooter] In addition, one exchange restriction maintained for security reasons should be notified to the IMF under the framework of Decision 144-(52/51). 20:29:23 [scooter] This is for the terrorist !!!! --- Some very staunch rules 20:29:28 [scooter] are tied to this !!! 20:29:32 [scooter] Now 20:29:43 [scooter] With that said ---- Here's the good stuff 20:30:19 [scooter] **Government Approves 5-year Development Plan ~ The plan’s investment program includes More than 2,700 projects worth Nearly $186 billion U.S. dollars related articles ~ Political first: 650 billion dollars worth of investments in Iraq International Compact with Iraq launched July 2006 - Annual Reviews 2007-2010 ... April 27, 2010 Government Approves 5-year Development Plan BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: The Council of Ministers on Tuesday approved the five-year development plan (2010-2014), according to an official spokesman for the Iraqi government. “The council approved today (April 27) the five-year development plan after taking into consideration the proposed adjustments by some ministries,” Ali al-Dabbagh told Aswat al-Iraq news agency. 20:31:05 [scooter] Now -- we new about the announcement 20:31:31 [scooter] but we didn't know that it was valued at 650 Billion dollars 20:32:07 [scooter] That -- ladies and gentlemen -- is a huge amount of funds for a populace of 31 million people!!!!!!! 20:32:32 [scooter] Here's the best part 20:33:03 [scooter] This comes from that same IMF document from earlier 20:33:13 [scooter] Financing the budget deficits in 2010–2011, would require additional financial support to fill a financing gap projected at almost $5 billion, even after mobilizing substantial amounts of domestic financing and utilizing the recent SDR allocation of $1.7 billion 20:33:33 [scooter] Read this carefully 20:33:54 [scooter] Against this background, the authorities have designed an economic program for 2010–11 that aims to maintain macroeconomic stability during the period of political transition (parliamentary elections are scheduled for early March 2010) and deepen structural reforms, particularly in the areas of public financial management, the financial system, and oil sector transparency. 20:34:40 [scooter] During the period of political transition 20:35:06 [scooter] That is when they were initially p*****ng to rv this bad boy!!!! 20:35:26 [scooter] The election screwed it up by several months and now they are playing catch up 20:35:36 [scooter] T 20:35:47 [scooter] Epiphany 20:35:48 [scooter] for me 20:36:07 [scooter] We know the two government banks 20:36:27 [scooter] are getting their balance sheets reformatted on june 30 20:36:43 [scooter] We are very very close!!!!! 20:36:58 [scooter] Here's some more 20:37:03 [scooter] This amount, together with disbursements from the World Bank under a Development Policy Loan and support from some donors, is expected to cover the financing gap for 2010–11. An important objective of the authorities’ fiscal program is to contain current spending in order to gradually reduce the budget deficit and make room for additional investment. 20:37:50 [scooter] Specifically, current spending in both 2010 and 2011 will be kept broadly unchanged in NOMINAL terms at 2009 levels.. 20:38:05 [scooter] There's the word nominal again !!! 20:38:30 [scooter] Finally ---- 20:38:46 [scooter] Here's what the executive Board Assessment says 20:39:01 [scooter] I'm sorry --- of the IMF 20:39:02 [scooter] and World Bank 20:39:06 [scooter] “They welcomed the authorities’ strong commitment to consolidate macroeconomic stability and advance the structural reform agenda, particularly in the areas of public financial management and the banking sector. Directors underscored the importance of steadfast implementation of the economic program, which would help unlock much needed resources from other donors and multilateral development banks.” 20:40:28 [scooter] the economic program is the RV folks ---- The approval is done --- They have green light once the debt is settled and they statistics are working !!! 20:40:49 [scooter] With that --- I conclude tonights chat ---- Thank you --- and have a great evening!!!! See Part 2 below in thread - Post #4

This will blow you away by me saying this: Thank you God and the majority of voters for allowing Obama to get elected. Now before you blast me into little pieces, let me explain. It took the country of Japan to bomb the crap outta Pearl Harbor to get the American people together for WWII even though they knew full well Europe was being devestated by Hitler and the world needed our help but the public did not want to get involved. As Admiral Yamamoto was quoted as saying, " All we did I fear was wake the sleeping giant". Meaning all that Japan did was unite us. We kicked butt after. Now why did I say what I did the first sentence? Because the liberals has been systematically dismantling the Constitution and the American way of life for years. The Libs changed the banking laws and investment laws and the Dot Coms rose high and then bust as well as the Enron scandal. Then, Clinton and crew deemed that owning a house was not the American dream, but a right. So the housing laws was changed and the credit lending laws were majorly loosened to allow anyone basically to buy a house. We see where that got us. Most importantly, they have tried to make it politically correct to take God out of everything we do. So.....with the election of Obama, surrounded by Pelosi, Reed, Dodd, Frank and Billery Clinton, this has created the perfect storm. What they have done is awaken the silent majority...FINALLY. It is our jobs to take this anger and frustration to the polls this November and Nov 2012. by then, man do we have ALOT of work to do to undo the mess these wackos has got us into. It will not be too late to fix what has been done, but if these clowns are re-elected, the USA will cease to exist as the best country in the world IMO and just be another broke Euro nation.

Ya know if you try and apply logic to the US Dollar you won't be able to come up with a logical answer. H*ll the Fed doesn't even print the M3 figures anymore and unless you can go around that and get a guesstimate of money supplies that is anywhere close to accurate then your guess will be as good or bad as anybody else's. Try it. I have. Gets real confusing real quick and believe me I do not confuse very easy. Throw in Fractional Reserve Banking, the principles of Fiat economies, and a whole lot of self serving politicians then I can assure you logic is right out the door. Considering how much debt the US has can you claim that as logical when you consider present and past budgets enacted by the Federal government? No you can't. Look I guess what some of the folks here,(me included), are saying SteveG and Rhnda is that we have heard all of what you say before. We have. In fact we hear your point of view all the time. That's fine but make no mistake. Your point of view is nothing new and as such too me what is so galling about your posts is that you seem to think yours is the only right one to believe. Now really. What exactly makes you so smart over the next guy. Well it doesn't matter really. I have as many others have done our research and we disagree with you and Rhnda. However by the retorts and your attitude of arrogance it would seem you should think I should believe you and thats that. By that standard I should just let you think for me huh. Well sir I respectfully disagree. I have my own opinion and I'm not about to impose my point of view on you as you and Rhnda have. Indeed you have. Your opinion is yours. So what? Thanks for sharing. Now what? Plus as Bigfoote68 queried why are you on a Dinar Investment forum trying to convince people who do believe in it that they are illogical? I mean what is the point. That would be like going on to a Ford Mustang forum and yelling that the Chevy Camaro is better and all you people are stupid. What is the point of that? Did I ask you for your help? No I didn't. You just joined in May and without a so much as a "by your leave", you then expound your opinion like you were the absolute only opinion of any worth. Huh? Now thats where I do get confused. You see having been subjected to your opinion so many times like everybody else on this forum I get confused because you seem to think your opinion is so important you would dismiss all of the members as what...stupid for believing in their investment? Ok so I am stupid. However I don't need you to come to my forum and accuse the owner of soaking the members for cash,(as Rhnda did), and have you remind me how stupid I am. If I choose to be stupid it's my stupid business and having you here to remind me as you have is like a yap yap dog looking for attention at 6:00 am before I have had my coffee. Now that is stupid. I don't like those little yap yap dogs that do that. If that little yap yap dog knew how much I'd like to silence their never ending yapping they would leave the area ASAP. If you keep yapping I would suggest you consider what I'm saying. I mean what is the point? Now of course if you would like to engage in some educated and respectful conversation then by all means hang around. But for the love of God stop that annoying yapping little puppy!! There are ways to have your opposing opinion and still engage in respectful conversation with out all the yapping. "Thank you for proving my point." I found that to be exactly what I am saying. Disrespectful. No rebuttal just a snide comment. BTW Rhnda. As to my earlier request for information as to how you came about your conclusions. Just skip it. I am no longer interested as what and how you got this all figured out. I know I am being rude but the more I read your post the more I realized you were the being the same. Plus some of your numbers were so off I just can't see the benefit of any further conversation. So again. Just skip it. Oh don't worry. I won't engage in the never ending responses you seem to provide to all who disagree with your oh so important opinion because as I write this I become disinterested in your opinion because as I said I have heard your opinion so many times before and as I said I don't need or want your help to save me from being stupid. However having said all of that I want YOU to have a......Nice Day. Once again I find myself drawn into all this negativity and to all my fellow members here on this forum I apologize for my negativity but having said that sometimes a person has to say what they have to say and that is all I'm gonna say about that. I am actually a very nice guy.....But not today. .

New Iraqi parliament to convene for first time next week; choosing president is first task Published June 08, 2010- | Associated Press Released in Fox News BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraq's newly elected lawmakers will convene for the first time next week, though the political power struggle over who will lead the next government appeared far from resolution. The legislature's first task will be to choose a president and parliament speaker. But after an inconclusive election, rival factions are struggling to put together a package deal to determine the nation's new leaders — including a prime minister and top Cabinet officials — for lawmakers to approve as soon as parliament convenes. One of those vying to grab the premiership, Ayad Allawi, said it was certain to be a tough battle that would ensure more delays. That's a dangerous scenario that could open the door to more violence by extremist groups seeking to exploit the political uncertainty and, in turn, sink confidence in Iraq's leaders. "It will not be over in day or two," said Allawi, a former prime minister and Shiite leader of the secular but Sunni-dominated Iraqiya political alliance, which won 91 seats in the March 7 parliamentary election — two more than its closest challenger. In a swipe at a super-Shiite coalition that is angling to control the parliament through postelection maneuvering, Allawi darkly said: "The battle will be hard between powers who believe in democracy and powers who believe in oppression." If Allawi's Sunni supporters feel robbed, that too could pull Iraq back into sectarian bloodshed. Much of the violence after the 2003 U.S. invasion was fueled by feelings of disenfranchisement by Sunnis who lost positions of power with the toppling of Saddam Hussein's regime. President Jalal Talabani issued a highly anticipated order Tuesday calling parliament to session June 14. Among lawmakers' first duties will be to elect a new speaker and president who, in turn, will decide which of Iraq's rival political factions will pick a prime minister and Cabinet ministers. Complicating matters, Iraq's divided power brokers must map out that picture in its entirety before any of those politicians can assume their duties — a process that could still take weeks, or even months. None of Iraq's major political coalitions captured an outright majority in the election, leaving the country without a clear winner. The lack of clear leadership in the already fragile democracy has fostered fears that extremist groups may incite violence as tens of thousands of U.S. military forces prepare to head home. After Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's State of Law coalition won 89 seats — coming in second place behind Iraqiya — he sought to hold on to his job by joining forces with a religiously devout Shiite alliance. That super-Shiite coalition, as U.S. officials have dubbed it, has tentatively coalesced its combined 159 seats in hopes of attracting enough support to control parliament and, in turn, the future government. That's still four seats shy of an outright majority in the 325-seat parliament. Once a new president is elected, he or she will task the legislature's largest political bloc with forming the new government. But the definition of the largest bloc is hotly debated, and likely will be the next battle between Iraqiya and al-Maliki. Iraqiya leaders have claimed they should have the first crack at forming the government because they won the most seats on balloting day. But a March court opinion opened the door to the possibility that the largest bloc could be one created after the election through negotiations — meaning that if the super-Shiite coalition holds together, it could have the right to form the government. Allawi, meeting Tuesday with Iraqiya lawmakers, called on parliament to make what he called "correct decisions" in creating the new government. "Democracy says that the winner — even by one seat — should form the government," he said. ___ Associated Press Writers Qassim Abdul-Zahra and Sinan Salaheddin contributed to this report. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/08/official-says-iraqs-president-parliament-session-elections-june/

Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas A. Edison

Longpalms thank you for your service to our country as well as your sons. I did a short stint in the Army in the early 80's and my father retired Army 31 yrs as well. Congrats to your son as well, not an easy feat by any stretch. I've been from Kuwait to Mosul as well, half by air and half by convoy as well, although probably not under quite the same austere conditions as he has. I posted in the newer denomination thread that I have emailed the Manager of the North Bank here whom I've spoken with personally about all of this, I'm gonna get this in black and white if I can and post whatever he can give me. I've got his personal email address and he's a short drive down the road as well. I've just not had the time to stop in and say hello. I'll bribe him with a couple Fire Department T-Shirts and maybe that will produce some decent intel. Thank you and I do appreciate the support and have also been in support of the military my whole life and have been overseas over 9 yrs. I'm just as ready as anybody to see this happen, and as I've been telling all over here, "it's not a matter of if,..... it's a matter of when". The Marines that told me they guarded conex's full of dinar that belong to major a contracting company as well as Wells Fargo are the reason I bought, not because of someone telling me too or trying to convince me too, or trying to scam me. Just thought I'd throw that tidbit back out there again, I posted that story a while back when I first signed on to here. By the way, there was a good posting battle of threads between E and Fi3ry Pho3nix that broke down the M1, M2, M3 with actual numbers that can surely be brought back up to substantiate what E has stated in the past. That might lend some creedance to the discussion here at hand. I'll post the info I get from the email on the other thread of newer denominations once I get a response back from Mo. If he does not email me within the next few days I will go and talk to him again and see if there is anything new. V

Why must you act surprised? It all comes under the word 'CHANGE'. Americans voted for 'change' without asking what the definitioinof 'change' was. It all depends on definition. We found out under clinton that liberals don't have definitions, they just use words. No one has ever definied the word 'if' since the days of Clinton. Did Americans really expect electing another liberal would see a different climate.

Rhnda, If your concerns are for a friend, then please address the subject with them and not here. Or, perhaps your negative, condescending attitude is not well-received there either. Why do you think anyone wants to listen to anything you have to say when your words imply you think they are stupid? Teach your friend how to research and evaluate investments. You have made numerous comments in this forum that you have not been able to support, some don't even make sense and now you tell us you are gathering information for some thesis. Your integrity and credibility decline with each post you make. Plus, much like the villains of the "Wallstreet Debacle" ... rather than providing information to help people make their own educated decisions, you, just like many of them, seem to believe we should heed your advice simply because YOU think you are smarter than everyone else. Well, the members here are smart enough to realize you are not as smart as you think ... so I guess that means we are not as dumb as you think ... and we have totally blown your thesis. The "Dumbing Down of America" has more to do telling others what you think their decisions should be instead of teaching others how to make good decisions. luckylucy jeanette

News Middle East Iraq parliament ordered to convene Allawi's Iraqiya bloc won the most seats, but has failed to form a government[AFP] Iraq's president has asked the newly elected parliament to convene on June 14 for the first time since inconclusive elections failed to produce a new government, a presidency official has said. Iraq's parliament has not convened amid the political uncertainty that followed the March 7 polls. "The president (Jalal Talabani) decided that the parliament will meet on Monday, June 14," Nasir al-Ani, the head of the Iraqi presidency's office, told the AFP news service. Once parliament is opened, Iraq's constitution states that MPs must select a speaker for the council of representatives, and then choose a new president. special report The president will then give the leader of the largest bloc in parliament 30 days to form a government. Iraq's Supreme Court ratified the results of the general election on June 1, confirming initial figures which put former premier Iyad Allawi's Iraqiya bloc ahead, followed closely by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's State of Law Alliance. The court has decided, however, that a coalition agreed before parliament's first meeting would gain primacy over Iraqiya if it held more combined seats. Earlier this month, State of Law and the Iraqi National Alliance, led by Shia religious groups, announced they would form a post-election coalition, leaving them just short of a majority, though they have yet to formalise the arrangement. http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/06/20106892420554441.html

20:10:31 [scooter] Good Evening20:10:35 [scooter] I hope all is well with you because I am doing outstanding!!!! 20:10:52 [scooter] First, I want to thank everyone over the last couple of weeks for their support and kind remarks — Those comments mean a great deal and add significant motivation to dig deeper. Again, thank you all!!!! 20:11:12 [scooter] Now, on to the chat and latest research. 20:11:33 [scooter] Tonight we will be digging into the following document from the IMF —- 2010 International Monetary Fund —- March 2010 —– IMF Country Report No. 10/7 20:12:08 [scooter] Let’s just say I encountered an EPIPHANY in several areas and we’ll talk through them tonight ! 20:12:54 [scooter] In fact — after reading this material 20:13:00 [dbcooper] Scooter yes sir! as good as could be expected! 20:13:06 [scooter] I almost changed my date prediction 20:13:13 [scooter] It was that good 20:13:35 [scooter] Oh wait a minute — I don’t have a date prediction — sorry 20:13:51 [scooter] First, If you haven’t seen this post —-{ LINK Unavailable – See Post in Thread} 20:14:06 [scooter] Please review it at your earliest —– It’s very telling in terms of the RV —- Right now I am waiting for my Genius Mathematical minded Economic guru Wife to calculate this out and tell me what the rate projection is. In due time — it’s going to cost me!!!! 20:14:42 [scooter] When you review this — remember — the IMF will speak to you in several languages 20:14:52 [scooter] There’s real gdp 20:15:08 [scooter] and now they’ve turned the channel and are speaking in Nominal GDP 20:15:18 [scooter] Nominal Exchange Rates 20:15:21 [scooter] Nominal is a key word 20:15:38 [scooter] And look at the footnootes at the bottom 20:15:49 [scooter] Secondly 20:16:04 [scooter] Look at the 2010 vs 2011 period 20:16:20 [scooter] You’ll start to see the significance of this Development Plan — DPL 20:16:40 [scooter] Essentially, This post is a Debt Sustainability Study —– They want to know if Iraq can sustain the debt after the RV —- Obvioiusly the results are very good — please review at your leisure! 20:17:36 [scooter] The second item I wanted to talk about are the Annex Pages and PIN’s (public information notice’s 20:17:46 [scooter] Very good stuff at the end of the document 20:18:22 [scooter] before I jump to deep — I wanted to show you how the IMF expressed the current exchanged rate 20:17:53 [scooter] Now – 20:18:58 [scooter] this comes from the same document and dated December 31, 2009 20:19:08 [scooter] IX. Exchange rate arrangement: The Central Bank of Iraq has been conducting foreign exchange auction on a daily basis since October 4, 2003. The central bank followed a policy of exchange rate stability which has translated in a de facto peg of the exchange rate since early 2004. 20:19:31 [scooter] Notice the de facto peg 20:19:44 [scooter] However, from November 2006 until end 2008, the CBI allowed the exchange rate to gradually appreciate. As a result, the exchange rate arrangement of Iraq was reclassified to the category of crawling peg effective November 1, 2006. 20:20:00 [scooter] I love this 20:20:20 [scooter] A “Crawling Peg” — Completely intentional! 20:20:30 [scooter] Since the start of 2009, the CBI returned to its earlier policy of maintaining a stable dinar. Consequently, the exchange rate arrangement of Iraq was reclassified effective January 1 2009 as a stabilized arrangement. 20:21:18 [scooter] Essentially — Shabibi was free to resume a “Crawling appreciation of Value — 20:21:36 [scooter] Cracks me up —- Drove us crazy — but there is a point 20:22:07 [scooter] The second thing that I thought was imperative to show —– DBCooper You might like these 4 items 20:22:21 [scooter] Iraq continues to avail itself of the transitional arrangements under Article XIV. Iraq has a generally unrestricted current account regime and a significantly liberalized capital account. However, four measures (plus one exchange restriction maintained for national or international security) have been identified to give rise to exchange restrictions subject to IMF approval, namely, 20:23:19 [scooter] Essentially — here are the rules of engagement for people and companies inside of iraq — Even the terrorist will be tracked 20:23:34 [scooter] (i) the requirement to pay all obligations and debts to the government before proceeds of investments of investors, and salaries and other compensation of non-Iraqi employees may be transferred out of Iraq. 20:24:33 [scooter] Iraq must pay all its obligations — Paris Club takes care of this 20:24:37 [scooter] (ii) the requirement to submit a tax certificate and a letter of non-objection stating that the companies do not owe any taxes to the government before non-Iraqi companies may transfer proceeds of current international transactions out of the country 20:25:27 [scooter] Essentially —- Corporations better pay the tax before nationalizing any funds —- 20:25:42 [scooter] If you recall — this tax stamp was discuss 4 weeks ago 20:25:58 [scooter] (iii) the requirement that before non-Iraqis may transfer proceeds in excess of ID 15 million out of Iraq, the banks are required to give due consideration of legal obligations of these persons with respect to official entities, which must be settled before allowing any transfer. 20:26:59 [scooter] That’s similar to the US and the $10,000 rule 20:27:15 [scooter] except this is 15 million IQD’s 20:27:23 [scooter] (iv) Iraqi balance owed to Jordan under an inoperative bilateral payments agreement. 20:28:11 [scooter] —- There hasn’t been much news on Jordan and the refugees cost — but it does top the $1. 4 Billion mark – 20:28:14 [scooter] I don’t know where they stand on this part 20:28:21 [scooter] But I am finding out — 20:28:41 [scooter] My hope is that my good friend Armondtoth will be able to share this information 20:28:47 [scooter] Finally — 20:28:56 [scooter] In addition, one exchange restriction maintained for security reasons should be notified to the IMF under the framework of Decision 144-(52/51). 20:29:23 [scooter] This is for the terrorist !!!! — Some very staunch rules 20:29:28 [scooter] are tied to this !!! 20:29:32 [scooter] Now 20:29:43 [scooter] With that said —- Here’s the good stuff 20:30:19 [scooter] **Government Approves 5-year Development Plan ~ The plan’s investment program includes More than 2,700 projects worth Nearly $186 billion U.S. dollars related articles ~ Political first: 650 billion dollars worth of investments in Iraq International Compact with Iraq launched July 2006 – Annual Reviews 2007-2010 … April 27, 2010 Government Approves 5-year Development Plan BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: The Council of Ministers on Tuesday approved the five-year development plan (2010-2014), according to an official spokesman for the Iraqi government. “The council approved today (April 27) the five-year development plan after taking into consideration the proposed adjustments by some ministries,” Ali al-Dabbagh told Aswat al-Iraq news agency. 20:31:05 [scooter] Now — we new about the announcement 20:31:31 [scooter] but we didn’t know that it was valued at 650 Billion dollars 20:32:07 [scooter] That — ladies and gentlemen — is a huge amount of funds for a populace of 31 million people!!!!!!! 20:32:32 [scooter] Here’s the best part 20:33:03 [scooter] This comes from that same IMF document from earlier 20:33:13 [scooter] Financing the budget deficits in 2010–2011, would require additional financial support to fill a financing gap projected at almost $5 billion, even after mobilizing substantial amounts of domestic financing and utilizing the recent SDR allocation of $1.7 billion 20:33:33 [scooter] Read this carefully 20:33:54 [scooter] Against this background, the authorities have designed an economic program for 2010–11 that aims to maintain macroeconomic stability during the period of political transition (parliamentary elections are scheduled for early March 2010) and deepen structural reforms, particularly in the areas of public financial management, the financial system, and oil sector transparency. 20:34:40 [scooter] During the period of political transition 20:35:06 [scooter] That is when they were initially p*****ng to rv this bad boy!!!! 20:35:26 [scooter] The election screwed it up by several months and now they are playing catch up 20:35:36 [scooter] T 20:35:47 [scooter] Epiphany 20:35:48 [scooter] for me 20:36:07 [scooter] We know the two government banks 20:36:27 [scooter] are getting their balance sheets reformatted on june 30 20:36:43 [scooter] We are very very close!!!!! 20:36:58 [scooter] Here’s some more 20:37:03 [scooter] This amount, together with disbursements from the World Bank under a Development Policy Loan and support from some donors, is expected to cover the financing gap for 2010–11. An important objective of the authorities’ fiscal program is to contain current spending in order to gradually reduce the budget deficit and make room for additional investment. 20:37:50 [scooter] Specifically, current spending in both 2010 and 2011 will be kept broadly unchanged in NOMINAL terms at 2009 levels.. 20:38:05 [scooter] There’s the word nominal again !!! 20:38:30 [scooter] Finally —- 20:38:46 [scooter] Here’s what the executive Board Assessment says 20:39:01 [scooter] I’m sorry — of the IMF 20:39:02 [scooter] and World Bank 20:39:06 [scooter] “They welcomed the authorities’ strong commitment to consolidate macroeconomic stability and advance the structural reform agenda, particularly in the areas of public financial management and the banking sector. Directors underscored the importance of steadfast implementation of the economic program, which would help unlock much needed resources from other donors and multilateral development banks.” 20:40:28 [scooter] the economic program is the RV folks —- The approval is done — They have green light once the debt is settled and the statistics are working !!! 20:40:49 [scooter] With that — I conclude tonights chat —- Thank you — and have a great evening!!!! Tags: no tags

Iraqi will hold a meeting tomorrow in preparation for the formation of the Government Post: Modified from Dinar Speculator - Penny 2010-06-07 20:45:16 - IPA Iraq News -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- بغداد ( إيبا ).. BAGHDAD (Iba) .. تعقد القائمة العراقية يوم غد الثلاثاء اجتماعا هاما لدراسة موضوع تشكيل الحكومة الجديدة. وقال المتحدث باسم القائمة فتاح الشيخ لوكالة الصحافة المستقلة ( إيبا ) ان رئيس القائمة اياد علاوي سيدير الاجتماع الذي يحضره قيادات القائمة اضافة الى اعضائها الفائزين بالانتخابات البرلمانية الاخيرة. واوضح الشيخ ان الاجتماع سيكرس لموضوع الاستعداد لتشكيل الحكومة المرتقبة بعد مصادقة المحكمة الاتحادية على نتائج الانتخابات . ومن المقرر ان يدعو رئيس الجمهورية مجلس النواب الجديد للانعقاد قبل منتصف الشهر الجاري استنادا االى الدستور العراقي الذي ينص على قيام رئيس الجمهورية بدعوة المجلس للانعقاد خلال 15 يوما من المصادقة على نتائج الانتخابات.(النهاية)/ز/ Complexity of the Iraqi List, on Tuesday held an important meeting to study the issue of forming the new government. A spokesman for the list Fattah al-Sheikh told the independent press (Iba) Prime menu Iyad Allawi will run the meeting, which was attended by leaders of the menu in addition to its members, the winners of parliamentary elections last. According to Sheikh said the meeting will be devoted to the issue of readiness to form a government expected after authentication the Federal Court on the election results. is to invite the President of the Republic of new Council of Representatives to convene by mid-month based on a muddy Iraqi constitution, which provides for the President of the Republic at the invitation of the Council to convene within 15 days of ratification of the election results. ( end) / g / http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http://www.ipairaq.com/index.php&prev=/language_tools&rurl=translate.google.com There was an earlier post that indicated that the President had to establish a date to be seated within 15 days, but this clearly indicates that the Parliment must CONVENE within 15 days - as was originally indicated in all previous posts. This puts my mind at ease, and many others I've spoken with. So, we wait and see......... Blessings, RON

Link http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ibeinI10cFUwqSaF0zrMVVdstqQQ BAGHDAD — Iraq's new parliament will convene on June 14 for the first time since March 7 elections that have yet to produce a new government, a presidency official said on Tuesday. "The president (Jalal Talabani) decided that the parliament will meet on Monday, June 14," Nasir al-Ani, the head of the Iraqi presidency's office, told AFP. Once parliament is opened, Iraq's constitution states that MPs must first select a speaker for the Council of Representatives, and then choose a new president. The president will then call on the leader of the biggest parliamentary bloc to form a government, who will be given 30 days to do so. Iraq's supreme court on June 1 ratified the results of the general election, confirming initial figures which put former premier Iyad Allawi's Iraqiya bloc in the lead, followed closely by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's State of Law Alliance. The court has opined, however, that a coalition agreed before parliament first meets would gain primacy over Iraqiya if it held more combined seats. Earlier this month, State of Law and the Iraqi National Alliance, led by Shiite religious groups, announced they would form a post-election coalition, leaving them just short of a majority, though they have yet to formalise the arrangement.

You know...I've been listening about the three zero theory for a long time. I actually sat down one night and came up with four different senarios as to what it COULD mean. I do agree with you that the way they speak is so different than us that it could mean anything. I do know this...it doesn't make much sense for them to screw everyone day one. (but then look at their election). I went into this however with the idea it is a penny stock and I treat it as such. With penny stocks...I usually lose. BUT...a few times I've won BIG. Somehow...this one feels right to me, and I am going to be in it for awhile.....cause I think they are ripe to expand their entire economy. Those hoards of ships sitting in the gulf full of goods are there for something...and I don't think it's for dinars at todays price anymore than I think those guys carring guns coming across the Mexican boarder are to cut our lawns. Bottom line...I'm having a brew myself and feel pretty much like you do. Besides...I could use a few extra million. Let's make it happen. Thanks for your post...I for one ......liked it.

Scooter Chat: 7 June 2010 - Part 2 Very Interesting! -- IMF Debt Sustainability Study --- Before and After RV Here's is the IMF's Debt Sustainability Study before and after the RV! Look very closely at years 2010 and 2011 (see Tables pp 62 & 63) --- We just keep getting closer and closer!!!!! Best, Scooter ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 61 APPENDIX I. IRAQ: DEBT SUSTAINABILITY ANALYSIS Iraq’s debt sustainability analysis underlines the progress the country has made in recent years in resolving the country’s external debt burden (Tables 1 and 2). With the conclusion of the third and last phase of the Paris Club debt reduction agreement, as well as the settlement of almost all private sector debt, Iraq’s external debt sustainability has improved significantly. Assuming that debt reduction on terms comparable to the Paris Club agreement is applied to all non-Paris Club creditors’ claims, Iraq's external debt is projected to fall to about 47.5 percent of GDP at end-2010 and to decline over the medium term. Under the baseline scenario, the medium term projections assume that the new external debt is mostly to multilateral creditors (particularly the IMF and World Bank) and a few bilateral creditors. Under this scenario, gross public sector debt is projected to decline from 137 percent of GDP in 2009 to 28 percent in 2014. The authorities intend to broaden the debt instruments available to them to absorb shocks and cover their financing needs by deepening the Treasury bill market. This will allow the government to tap private domestic financial resources and help develop an active and liquid domestic capital market. In line with budget projections, the analysis assumes the issuance of $3 billion of Treasury-bills annually until 2011 to help finance the projected fiscal gap. These Treasury-bills would be partially redeemed by 2013-14 as the budget moves back into surplus. By end-2014 the stock of outstanding Treasury-bills is projected at $3 billion. While the debt ratios show a healthy decline under the baseline scenario, stress tests indicate that:  Iraq's external debt is significantly vulnerable to oil price and production shocks. With a permanent oil production shock (production remaining at a level 5 percent below the baseline 2010 level), the debt-to-GDP and debt service-to-export ratios would rise rapidly over the medium term; (ii) a price shock of 10 percent (relative to the baseline) would also present difficulties albeit of a lesser importance than the volume shock; and (iii) a combined oil price and production shock would present significantly more severe problems as unsustainable market borrowing would become necessary.  Iraq’s public debt remains somewhat vulnerable to negative shocks, especially to a depreciation of the exchange rate and oil shocks (through external debt liabilities). A 30 percent depreciation of the dinar would triple the stock of debt relative to the baseline scenario, exceeding 85 percent of GDP by 2014. An increase of interest rates and a decline of growth rates would also have a negative impact the stock of debt, which would almost double by 2014 relative to the baseline ratios.  Major vulnerabilities could also arise if the authorities deviate from the adoption and implementation of sustainable fiscal policies. See Tables on Pages 62 & 63 of this report........ http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/scr/2010/cr1072.pdf Source Document -- 2010 International Monetary Fund March 2010 -- IMF Country Report No. 10/72 for Iraq

Had to share this e-mail I got from my Navy friend!! Very touching... Military Cemetery Watchman... I just wanted to get the day over with and go down to Smokey's. Sneaking a look at my watch, I saw the time, 1655. Five minutes to go before the cemetery gates are closed for the day. Full dress was hot in the August sun. Oklahoma summer time was as bad as ever--the heat and humidity at the same level--both too high. I saw the car pull into the drive, '69 or '70 model Cadillac Deville, looked factory-new. It pulled into the parking lot at a snail's pace.. An old woman got out so slow I thought she was paralyzed; she had a cane and a sheaf of flowers--about four or five bunches as best I could tell. I couldn't help myself. The thought came unwanted, and left a slightly bitter taste: 'She's going to spend an hour, and for this old soldier, my hip hurts like hell and I'm ready to get out of here right now!' But for this day, my duty was to assist anyone coming in. Kevin would lock the 'In' gate and if I could hurry the old biddy along, we might make it to Smokey's in time. I broke post attention. My hip made gritty noises when I took the first step and the pain went up a notch. I must have made a real military sight: middle-aged man with a small pot gut and half a limp, in marine full-dress uniform, which had lost its razor crease about thirty minutes after I began the watch at the cemetery. I stopped in front of her, halfway up the walk. She looked up at me with an old woman's squint. 'Ma'am, may I assist you in any way?' She took long enough to answer. 'Yes, son. Can you carry these flowers? I seem to be moving a tad slow these days.' 'My pleasure, ma'am.' Well, it wasn't too much of a lie. She looked again. 'Marine, where were you stationed?' ' Vietnam, ma'am.. Ground-pounder. '69 to '71.' She looked at me closer. 'Wounded in action, I see. Well done, Marine. I'll be as quick as I can.' I lied a little bigger: 'No hurry, ma'am.' She smiled and winked at me. 'Son, I'm 85-years-old and I can tell a lie from a long way off.. Let's get this done. Might be the last time I can do this. My name's Joanne Wieserman, and I've a few Marines I'd like to see one more time.' 'Yes, ma 'am. At your service.' She headed for the World War I section, stopping at a stone. She picked one of the flowers out of my arm and laid it on top of the stone. She murmured something I couldn't quite make out.. The name on the marble was Donald S. Davidson, USMC: France 1918. She turned away and made a straight line for the World War II section, stopping at one stone. I saw a tear slowly tracking its way down her cheek. She put a bunch on a stone; the name was Stephen X. Davidson, USMC, 1943. She went up the row a ways and laid another bunch on a stone, Stanley J. Wieserman, USMC, 1944.. She paused for a second. 'Two more, son, and we'll be done!' I almost didn't say anything, but, 'Yes, ma'am. Take your time.' She looked confused.. 'Where's the Vietnam section, son? I seem to have lost my way.' I pointed with my chin. 'That way, ma'am.' 'Oh!' she chuckled quietly. 'Son, me and old age ain't too friendly.' She headed down the walk I'd pointed at. She stopped at a couple of stones before she found the ones she wanted. She placed a bunch onLarry Wieserman, USMC, 1968, and the last on Darrel Wieserman, USMC, 1970. She stood there and murmured a few words I still couldn't make out. 'OK, son, I'm finished. Get me back to my car and you can go home.' Yes, ma'am. If I may ask, were those your kinfolk?' She paused. 'Yes, Donald Davidsonwas my father, Stephen was my uncle, Stanley was my husband,Larry and Darrel were our sons. All killed in action, all marines.' She stopped. Whether she had finished, or couldn't finish, I don't know. She made her way to her car, slowly and painfully. I waited for a polite distance to come between us and then double-timed it over to Kevin, waiting by the car. 'Get to the 'Out' gate quick.. I have something I've got to do.' Kevin started to say something, but saw the look I gave him. He broke the rules to get us there down the service road. We beat her. She hadn't made it around the rotunda yet. 'Kevin, stand at attention next to the gatepost. Follow my lead.' I humped it across the drive to the other post. When the Cadillac came puttering around from the hedges and began the short straight traverse to the gate, I called in my best gunny's voice: 'TehenHut! Present Haaaarms!' I have to hand it to Kevin; he never blinked an eye--full dress attention and a salute that would make his DI proud. She drove through that gate with two old worn-out soldiers giving her a send-off she deserved, for service rendered to her country, and for knowing duty, honor and sacrifice. I am not sure, but I think I saw a salute returned from that Cadillac. Instead of 'The End,' just think of 'Taps.' As a final thought on my part, let me share a favorite prayer: 'Lord, keep our servicemen and women safe, whether they serve at home or overseas. Hold them in your loving hands and protect them as they protect us.' Let's all keep those currently serving and those who have gone before in our thoughts. They are the reason for the many freedoms we enjoy. 'In God We Trust.' Sorry about your monitor; it made mine blurry too! If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under! "The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution is worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks." ---Samuel Adams--- WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE! God Bless Our Military...

If the redenomination to smaller notes has already begun in Iraq, then that should be very simple to prove and we gladly await your revelation of such! Thank you! luckylucy

I may be wrong but it sounds like neither one of you have purchased any dinar. That is of course your prerogative - I feel it is a good risk investment. With only a couple of thousand invested, if it only RV's at a penny I have made 10 times my initial investment. Iraq can not continue to prosper without a revaluation of their currency. I lost more than I have invested in this venture last year in the stock market. The risk in this investment is at best, very minimal compared to any other investment I have ever been involved in. I guess my question is - if you haven't made an investment in this venture - why are you a member of this site ? What is your purpose making these kind of posts ?

Thanks for the good (+) Post WOODY...! Phoenix, I appreciate the divergent view you present, but I especially appreciate the fact that you reaffirm the RV, and you caution us to Wait and Trust. You state with confident assurance that it will happen regardless of who is the PM. I hope and pray that Parliment will be seated this week...! As for comments that Phoenix is a nay-sayer, I don't see that. he simply indicates that Maliki (or one of his cronies) will be the PM, and that much of what we are hearing in the media is smoke & mirrors. I appreciate his perspective, whether i agree with it or not. JMHO................ Blessings to Everyone, RON

.........NOT TO DISCREDIT THIS NAY-SAYER BUT WE KNOW THAT THE WORLD IS SCREAMING AT IRAQ TO RE-PRESENT THEIR CURRENCY TO THE INTERNATIONAL MARKETPLACE,...KUWAIT,AND CHINA NOT THE LEAST OF THESE,........THE GCC HAS ALLOWED THEM BACK INTO THE GUILD BUT CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSION THERE WITHOUT THEIR CURRENCY GLOBALLY RECOGNIZED AGAIN,........... THE PROMISES TO CONTRACTORS AWAITING PAYMENT,.... 70% REMOVAL OF M2 LIQUIDITY,...INTRODUCTION OF DEBIT CARDS AND ATM's,... SMALLER DENOMINATIONS SETTING IN BANKS READY TO GO,... OIL CONTRACTS PATIENTLY WAITING (SAYING THAT TONGUE IN CHEEK) TO BE SIGNED,... THE IRAQI PEOPLE THEMSELVES IN SUCH DIRE NEED OF INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES,IE;... WATER,ELECTRICITY,ROADS,SCHOOLS,HOSPITALS AND TEXTILES OF ALL KINDS, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON, ............HE WHO HAS EARS TO HEAR, LET HIM (OR HER) HEAR,............WATCH AND MARVEL AS THE MOST HIGH RESTORES THE YEARS THAT THE LOCUSTS HAVE EATEN, AND THE LEAVES FROM THE TREE OF LIFE FEED THE MASSES............HAVE FAITH FOLKS, YOU'VE WAITED THIS LONG, A BIT LONGER WILL DO YOU NO HARM ........IT IS HAPPENING

Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim meets Dr. Iyad Allawi and his entourage 06/08/2010 - 9:45 am - al-Forat News In light of the political movement that is witnessing the political arena, and efforts and concerted effort to form a government of national partnership, His Eminence Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim heads the Supreme Council Iraqi Islamic pm Monday, 07.06.2010 in the office of His Eminence's Baghdad Prime Minister Iyad Allawi Iraqi List and the delegation accompanying him. During the meeting, discuss the latest developments in the Iraqi political scene, and the project needs to form the next government is seeking to overcome serious obstacles and unify visions. In a press statement after the meeting, Dr. Allawi said that the consultation that took place today, but is an extension of an ongoing consultation with the Supreme Council a few days ago to address the previous regime, adding that a large consensus of views, particularly regarding the need to speed up the formation of the government after the parliament. He also noted President of the Iraqi List, the meeting saw Ahaditha important contribution towards calming the atmosphere and pave the way for the formation of the Government of their responsibilities and serve the Iraqi people, stressing at the same time that the meeting was frank and positive, and that the visions were in agreement on the importance of collecting political forces in the dialogue and serious negotiations, as the price of the role carried out by the Iraqi National Coalition to attract the political parties and open a serious dialogue which was in the interest of the country. For his part, Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim that the dialogues circuits had been marked by frankness and transparency, and dialogues seek to enhance coordination and cooperation between Shazly state of law and the national and the Iraqi List and the Kurdistan Alliance and lists winning the other, hinting that there is a serious will to hold the first session of the House of Representatives and speed up the form a government, confirmed that the shared perceptions associated with the nature of true partnership required for the next phase, and the prospects for real dilemmas to solve more coordination, communication and serious meetings in the next few days. This meeting was attended both by His Excellency Vice-President Adel Abdul-Mahdi and Mr. Reda Jawad Taqi, Mr. Mohsen Hakim, political advisor to the President of the Supreme Council and the Iraqi List, Sheikh Jamal and Sheikh Adnan melon Aldenbos and Sheikh Hussein al-Shaalan. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://alforattv.net/index.php%3Fshow%3Dnews%26action%3Darticle%26id%3D45815&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dnahrain%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff&rurl=translate.google.ca

Hi All Pulled this from outside source. Take it for what its worth as per usual & dont shoot the messanger please Enorrste chat 06-07-10 flyingtooth Member Posts: 2 [enorrste] Oh, I have a rumor [enorrste] My dear 85 year old Syrian lady friend has a son in Texas who is a devout Muslim [enorrste] and has many contacts in Iraq [enorrste] He says that Maliki knows that he is going to lose [enorrste] and that he has decided to do the RV just before he loses out entirely! [enorrste] How cool is that? [enorrste] Oh, well, it is a rumor, ya know? [enorrste] He wants to go out on top! [enorrste] And might just hope it would sway him to win, DUH! [enorrste] What you got, Road? [Road_Kill] enorrste there was some deal made with Maliki to down let the elections finish without anymore incidents. at the last minute he backed out which may hinder an RV on the 8th but it will not the RV, if not tomorrow, look to the 15th [Road_Kill] enorrste my rumor is from Saudi Arabia [enorrste] I like RoadKill’s version of the rumor, actually [enorrste] Did you all see the posts today (articles?) [enorrste] I have one you haven’t seen [enorrste] I’ll copy it here; it’s cool! [enorrste] LINK [enorrste] It’s tough to understand, but basically says this: [enorrste] If M can’t get it together then Mahdi will be chosen to “resolve” the issue [enorrste] However, from another post today we have even better news: [enorrste] Allawi has offered the Presidency to Mahdi, with himself as PM [enorrste] HOWEVER [enorrste] He says they can switched roles after 2 years! [enorrste] Meaning that Mahdi would become PM and Allawi President for the second half of the term [enorrste] Now THAT’S political thinking! [enorrste] I’m still predicting that Allawi is going to go in with a majority to offset the State of Law/INA supposed coalition [enorrste] Meaning that Allawi will go first BOTH because he won the most seats AT the election, AND that he will have the most seats AT the first session of parliament [enorrste] which will pull the rug out from under Mr. M, period [enorrste] Then, if our rumor is right, M will see this and pull the trigger on the RV in a last ditch attempt to appear a hero [enorrste] Just before he brings in the Army and kills all of parliament! [enorrste] Allawi is on record for having the first meeting on the 10th [enorrste] They MUST meet by the 15th per constitution, no exceptions allowed [enorrste] According to TerryK he said it was a Reuters article, or interview. We should start there [enorrste] But Elvis said he saw/read it himself, I believe. [enorrste] However, I’d like to comment on Phoenix’s “drivel” [enorrste] He amazes me, talking about “all of the other sites” as if we were idiots [enorrste] and then claiming that he has the “scoop” because, presumably, the CFR had a meeting with Maliki and the Kurdish Alliance [enorrste] Let’s just analyze this for a moment, OK [enorrste] First, has ANYONE ever heard of the CFR meeting with ANYONE [enorrste] Of course not; that is not the way they do business [enorrste] second, why meet with the Kurdish Alliance? [enorrste] What role could they possibly play? [enorrste] They are small potatoes, and the CFR doesn’t work with “small potatoes” [enorrste] Finally, Knowing that the CFR is behind the UN, US, IMF, World Bank, etc. etc. [enorrste] AND knowing that the UN and US are backing Allawi for the first shot at the government [enorrste] then apparently the CFR doesn’t know what it’s RIGHT hand is doing! [enorrste] OK, off the soap box for a moment [enorrste] Oh, one more thing [enorrste] how many saw the Phoenix chat? [enorrste] Did you notice how he used the word “myopic”? [enorrste] and then decided to define it for everyone? [enorrste] Well, that is a word I’ve been using here for quite some time, as you all know, especially when berating the “narrow minded” people on other sites [enorrste] and was quite proud of himself [enorrste] and had to let you all know what it is! [enorrste] DUH! [i told you so] enorrste you said in your book, Iraq are inventors and masters at CHESS. now Maliki RV is a masterful move. “Check”. Whats your counter move???? [enorrste] Hmmm. Good question, I Told [enorrste] first answer is of course that I am not playing Maliki [enorrste] thankfully [enorrste] However, my response would probably go something like this: [enorrste] M has been playing with the UN on chess, not me [enorrste] and quite adroitly, I might add (someone email Phoenix with that word, please) [enorrste] How about this” [enorrste] Maliki’s tenacity and ability to obfuscate is punctuated by his excentric methodologies and his pernicious and deleterious requisite to “stay on top”! [enorrste] He punctuates his sentences with assassins! [enorrste] His inability to compromise is based on his myopic and infantile crustacean-like movements in the face of an avalanche of evidence to the contrary [enorrste] Not to mention the irrepressible UN which continually adds voluminous conditions and extensions to existing minutia of legalities until his nostrils are plugged with GOO and he can hardly function! [enorrste] So he continues to play chess [enorrste] hoping beyond hope that his “kingship” will not be checkmated [enorrste] however, the UN has pulled out the “big guns” [icemanSC] young Liz The participants at the just ended Bilderberger meeting in Spain are scared they are going to be identified and eventually hunted down, according to an inside source at the meeting. For now Clinton, Bush, Baker and the other Bilderberg Nazi’s are trying to cut a deal with China that will allow them access to large amounts of funds which they plan to hide and use to re-assert their power after the current political storm blows over, the source says. Unfortunately for them, this is one storm that is not going to blow over to and allow them to resume their plans for world fascist dictatorship. [enorrste] The Queen is advancing, with her bishops and knights at her side [enorrste] and her Rooks poised to block any evasive moves [AmerJus] The UN is letting him get away with his craziness by allowing extensions to the extensions [enorrste] But that is now over, AmerJus [enorrste] They told him in no uncertain terms that Allawi gets the first shot at making a government [enorrste] kido, 8, 12, 15, 30, or any in between; there [enorrste] I suspect you and Iceman are correct, Young Liz, but you have to admit that we have a fairly large “horse in this race”, right? So we see dinar talk in every grocery store! [enorrste] Theology [enorrste] Masters degree [enorrste] Tess, today was great in info [dinarluva] enorrste what was so great about the info? [enorrste] Allawi offered the Pres position to Mahdi for 2 years, and then offered two switch places. That’s pretty big, as politics goes [dinarluva] enorrste do you think iraq is trying to stall as much as possible? LINK [dinarluva] enorrste how positive are you about this month [enorrste] 75% (but I could be wrong, you know) enorrste] Actually, I’m very positive because of the forces (both light and dark LOL) coming together at this time [enorrste] Tess, the calm before the storm is called “negotiating” [enorrste] Actually I’m surprised that anything is leaking out at all, really [enorrste] these boys are all in the back rooms, with long cigars, and wads of bills [AmerJus] oh no.. i think it is higher than that…… june only has 30 days…. if shabibi is true to his word (please, somebody over there needs to be honest), then this must happen this month [enorrste] they don’t have time to go in front of the press right now [dinarluva] how can maliki cause so much prob for the whole country. FRUSRTATING [enorrste] I agree AmerJus [enorrste] well, he wants to retain power. Can’t blame him for that [enorrste] problem is, he may just bring down the country in trying to do so, although I think in the final analysis he will see the light [enorrste] right, Young Liz; that is why we can only hope he will realize that he is finding a losing battle (M) [enorrste] If/when he does, he may RV just as a going away present, so he looks good [enorrste] Remember, next election is only 4 years away [enorrste] People will see him as a hero if he RVs before parliament seats [AmerJus] between china and the us…. the imf and the un…. somebody is gonna spank M’s behind before this is over if he doesn’t get his act together… this isnt just about iraq…. it is world economics [enorrste] I agree, AmerJus, and I suspect one of M’s concerns is that he doesn’t want to be arrested [enorrste] M has held the RV from the world for 6 months now, waiting for the release from Ch 7 [enorrste] and what has happened: the UN is coming to him, not the other way around [AmerJus] the US is pushing for china to rv…. is it possible they are gonna bundle all of these together? the yuan, the dong, the dinar and whatever other currencies are pending? [enorrste] Tess, this is Iraq; he can’t be prosecuted while in office! Big difference [enorrste] yes, most likely, amerJus [enorrste] If we are lucky dinar first, then dong and others in a few days [enorrste] yes, Tess; he’s scared to death, IMO [enorrste] and hopes to ****** victory out of the jaws of defeat [enorrste] but he probably has a “getaway plan” [enorrste] like RV, and disappear in the confusion; that’s a good one, right? June 8, 2010 at 1:52 AM

June 08, 2010, 12:34 AM EDT June 8 (Bloomberg) -- Now is the best time for China to reform its exchange rate mechanism because weakening pressure for appreciation of the yuan means there will be fewer negative effects from the change, the China Economic Times cited government researcher Fan Jianjun as saying. The core issue that needs to be resolved is how to set up an exchange rate mechanism that’s based on the market, Fan told the newspaper. The role of the central bank in the foreign exchange market should be changed from one of a decision-maker on foreign exchange rates to a participant or even a watchdog in the market, said Fan. Fan is the head of the securities research department of the Development and Research Center’s financial research institute. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-08/now-is-best-time-for-china-to-reform-exchange-rate-times-says.html

June 08, 2010, 1:07 AM EDT June 8 (Bloomberg) -- Vietnam should focus on finding more effective monetary policy tools rather than change its benchmark interest rate, Standard Chartered Plc said. The central bank’s so-called base rate has been kept at 8 percent since December, when it was raised from 7 percent, and the State Bank of Vietnam said May 31 that it would keep the rate unchanged this month. “In terms of interest rates, we don’t expect them to make any significant moves,” Nicholas Kwan, the Hong Kong-based regional head of research at Standard Chartered, told reporters yesterday at a World Economic Forum conference in Ho Chi Minh City. “The more immediate task for the central bank is to find true monetary tools, rather than to move the rate level.” Standard Chartered joins Australia & New Zealand Banking Group Ltd. in saying Vietnam needs a new monetary policy instrument to control credit growth and inflation. The severing this year of a link between the benchmark and market lending rates has made “the base rate much less relevant,” and the central bank may soon switch to a more “market-oriented” benchmark, Standard Chartered said in a report last month. Vietnam’s inflation rate is still high, while the country’s trade deficit is “sizeable,” with the pace of growth in imports through May more than twice that of exports, Kwan said. Consumer prices rose 9.05 percent in May from a year earlier, staying above 9 percent for a third month. The trade deficit in the first five months of 2010 was $5.38 billion, more than four times the shortfall in the same period a year earlier. No ‘Aggressive Easing’ “All these are concerns behind the mind of the central bank, which will hold back from any aggressive easing,” Kwan said. Vietnam is still building its monetary policy regime, and needs tools to make its policies work more effectively, he said. Low market interest rates would be a “modest negative” for the Vietnamese dong, Standard Chartered said in its report last month. The currency may trade in a range of 19,000 to 20,000 dong per dollar over the next two years, Kwan said. The dong traded today at 18,968 per dollar. “There is still a risk that things could go weaker rather than stronger,” he said. “But if you look at the balance-of- payments situation and the debt-financing situation, it will probably be reasonably stable.” http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-08/vietnam-needs-true-monetary-tool-standard-chartered-says.html

I agree wholeheartedly

Truly sad.

Presidency Council issued a presidential decree at the invitation of the House of Representatives June 8, 2010 Presidency Council issued a presidential decree on Tuesday 06.08.2010, calling on the elected Council of Representatives to convene, according to the provisions of Article (54) and item (vii) of Article (73) of the Constitution: The following is the text of the decree: "Presidential Decree No. (50) Based on Maardh the Presidency Council, pursuant to the provisions of Article (54) and item (vii) of Article (73) of the Constitution. Decreed as follows: First: Call elected Council of Representatives convened on 14/6/2010 to Chair the oldest member. Second: implement this decree from the date of issuance and shall be published in the Official Gazette Written in Baghdad in the twenty-fourth day of the month of Jumada II 1431 AH, corresponding to the eighth day of the month of June for the year 2010 AD Tareq al-Hashemi Vice-President of the Republic Adel Abdul-Mahdi Vice-President of the Republic Jalal Talabani President of the Republic " http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.iraqipresidency.net/news_detial.php%3Flanguage%3Darabic%26id%3D9198%26type%3Dnews&rurl=translate.google.ca

Well obviously you missed my point and this will be the last time I address you or this subject. Paranoid? Verbal assault? Hardly. You have in fact been rude and condescending and you have publicly made statements in this forum. Read your own previous post. I did. You speak to me as if I was not capable of comprehending what your post was about by using terms such as they or their..Then like always when challenged the first thing you do is claim that I'm the bad guy and that I have somehow violated your right to have a reasonable conversation. Well guess what pal. You make public statements about they or them about we here who do believe we are involved in a legit investment then you need to be prepared for a crusty old SOB like me. Besides that when you use terms such as those you aren't talking to me you are talking at me. What am I some small creature not on your level of understanding? What? "However when they run the numbers how on earth could the investors/sellers substantiate their outlandish scenarios." What? Are you not one of those investors? Are you not involved here as an investor with real Yankee dollars in the game? If not then why ARE you here? If so what are you saying? That you got sucked in and you are pizzed and somebody help me or defend me or what? That you want to be the guy who saved all those not as enlightened as you? Again make your point? Do you have money invested in the Dinar and if so why yell rape now? Why didn't you do your due diligence before you bought? That way you could have spared me this worthless discussion. Look. "You pays yo money and you takes yo chances." If you truly believe that you have been duped sorry. But keep it to yourself because I along with others disagree and believe me hardly anybody here hasn't waffled on their beliefs about their investments but at least you don't see the majority running around crying the sky is falling!! In fact you and Rhnda are my very first ones. As I said you could have chosen a respectful way to discuss this but instead you talk to me and the forum as if we haven't a clue of your point of view. That is rude and condescending. Suck it up. You got screwed. If you believe that then thats for you to deal with and not me. You decided to post in the forum and as such you are open to that discussion. I mean we are conversing now aren't we? You didn't like my response and you cried foul. It almost brought me to tears. Plus as expected you just have to make a response. You just have to cry foul because you have a point of view that is virtually impossible to defend. Do you think you are the only one to consider that this could be a scam? I don't think so. I took that aspect into consideration and made my choice. I checked it out the best I could and went for it and when I did buy in I was much much less knowledgeable than I am today. I can assure you that if it turns out we have been scammed I'm not gonna blame anybody but me. Who else would be at fault? Dinar Trade? GID? Nope... Just me and only me. I take full responsibility for my actions. From your post you seem to want to blame somebody else. "I just wanted to discuss the chances that we got sucked into some huge scam orchestrated by the Dinar pushers". No you didn't want the chance to discuss you flat out made that abundantly clear in your previous post and you aren't discussing anything. You are telling me what you think and you aren't discussing anything. You are telling me what I need to think. Sorry. That doesn't work for me. What about it? Then when I disagree you want to claim foul. Give me a break. I don't feel the way you do. So what? I'm either right or wrong but does that really matter? Being right? The ride isn't over and what will be will be so actually it's not that I am right or wrong. I invested in the Dinar. I will either get paid or I won't. I did do my due diligence and I continue to do so to this very day and this very minute. It's to my advantage to cut through all the hype and hyperbole to make a decent choice as to how to proceed and this happens for me each and everyday. I know more about what goes on in Iraq than I do in my own house. I'm even becoming so familiar around the world of International Economics I can't even hold a conversation with non invested peeps because they haven't a clue what I'm talking about. You? You seem to think you have been scammed and to tell you the truth like you said I have neither the inclination or energy to continually debate you over the path this road takes us. Having said that you choose the road you travel but don't try and sell me that your road is the right road because not you or anybody else is going to make my choice for me. My choice is my mine and mine alone and nobody forced me to take it. If you had asked the members of this forum for help in understanding about the possibility of a scam I can assure you you would have found many who would have entered into that conversation willingly. You chose to look down your nose and talk at the forum as if they had no clue that your superior opinion was the only one that was right. Well sir. I respectfully disagree. Rhnda. You are a banker. Does that make you an expert in making loans or macro economics? But then now I am being condescending. I apologize. Hey wait!! No I don't!!! Let's look at your response to my earlier post. "Try this...it will actually help you...and I am momentarily being sincere". That was as condescending as you could be. You make me laugh with your attitude. " Here's another question to ask that will also help you." Did I ask for your help. No. I did not. I also don't like being talked down too. I bet I can get after you and we'll see a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth. I bet you would claim sexism and anything else you can come up with so don't do it to me. But since you did I am gonna take my shot. First let me tell you something. You are never gonna gain any respect attacking the moderators here. Get them to put what it in writing? The date and the rate? Don't make me laugh. That is just so silly. If they knew that info they would be the only ones to know outside of the CBI. I bet the GOI doesn't know either. Seeing that CBI is autonomous of the GOI I really don't believe more than a few people do know the holy grail of Dinar World. The proverbial date and rate. You are the banker. Do you?Will you put it in writing? Don't be ridiculous. Get Dinar Trade to give me the time it will take to cash in and at how much after the RV. I see where you are going but seeing that all you bankers are gonna give me a rate with fees and a spread no matter what it is it will be better than your bank and it will not feel so slimy. If your bank charges me a 2% to 8% spread that could add up to a whole lotta money. Dinar Trade is going to charge $150 per million and no spread. You seem to act like that is a bad thing. Me I kinda like it. It seems almost patriotic to do something to deprive the banks of more of my money than they have already gotten. If you consider the latest banking scandals and all the tarp money from the taxpayer which I am one of those. Further more as with the latest banking scandals I'm sure that any reasonable investor would hesitate in asking their financial institution in light of how the banks played the housing loans. Yeah Lehman and AIG and all those respectable institutions and God knows how many local and regional banks have disappeared on those financial institutions advice. I'm just Joe six pack and if they lie to the big investors then what's gonna make them so truthful with me? Right now I wouldn't trust a bank to give me a working toaster much less advice on what I should put my money into. There are other avenues of advice. But I digress. Presidential order no.13303. Do you know about that? I would hope so. That is Dinar Info 101. If you believe that what the Dealers are doing is bordering on illegal then refer to that order because that is what made it legal for them to sell dinar to the Investors. So if you are implicating shady dealings here I want you to make sure when you file your charges against whoever make sure you save a place for President Bush cause he is the President who made this all possible. Now far be it from me to try and be of service here or to offend your professional sensibilities as you have stated you are a banker but I would suggest that the President of The United States is not in league with the President of Dinar Trade to defraud you or me with regards to this investment. As a banker you are familiar with the fact that the United States employees a Fiat economy aren't you? My point is you implied that the dealers only sell paper Dinars. I would assume from that revelation that they sell paper Dinar you see something not quite kosher. You also said in your previous post that only ETF's on the forex were the way to buy Dinars and not by buying those old paper ones. What is the difference between the paper Dinar and the paper Dollar? Nothing. So what is your point? You of course being a banker surely understand that under the Fiat economy I previously mentioned our sacred US Dollar is nothing more than paper don't you? That the value assigned to that paper is only what I and the rest of the citizens of the nation believe when my government tells me what it's worth. If I come to your bank and ask for the gold value or even the amount of peanuts that it is worth will you exchange that paper for the commodity that backs that paper? No you won't because it is only assigned value by the strength of the economy and the faith that I have in that paper and my governments ability to pay it's bills. Paper is paper is paper but that doesn't make it of any less or more value. It is after all legal tender that is issued by a government with an assigned value. Know of any ETF's on the Dinar? Answer that question. Make it public here on the Forum. I'm curious what a banker knows about an ETF on Dinars on the Forex. Make sure you list the details. That you would imply shady dealings from Dinar Trade when that firm buys Dinars is nonsense. There is nothing shady about it. If I choose to sell to DT then that is my choice. With reference to the afore mentioned Presidential order it is legal and above board. It would seem that you feel the ability of trading on the Forex is the optimum way to buy or sell and that is your choice. I assume that you feel that the instantaneous rates given from streaming data is the way to go. To that end you might be right. However if you consider it will go up then you must consider that it can go down. What if the person handling my order sneezes and gets snot all over their hands. It will delay that entrance into the market and you know that could cause me a loss and since they aren't gonna do anything but complete that order when I request it I am out of control of my transaction and held prisoner by someone with snot on their hands. Seems ridiculous? Well I know of one transaction that indeed happened just like that with regards to a stock being sold. But in this case the seller made more money than anticipated because during that brief moment the stock jumped on news released that made it jump in the sellers favor. It could inversely cause me a loss. BTW. Did you know that Dinar trade is also United Bank Iraq? You are the banking expert. Extrapolate that information and come to your own conclusion. Seems smart to me and it's why he is gonna be cheaper to deal with than your bank. We have members here that buy their Dinars at banks. Does your bank sell them? Yes? No? If so did you buy all you could get your hands on. If not what the Heck are saying. If your bank doesn't deal with them then what makes your knowledge about the investment better than mine? You know bankers and so do I. But having said that again I ask what makes your opinion better than mine? Your learned opinion because you are a banker? I have a friend worth millions and he wants no part of it but his wife has millions and millions of Dinar. I know two bankers. The President of one bank hasn't a clue about the Dinar and he quite clearly doesn't want to know about it because Iraq is a country that supports terrorism. I tried to explain that Sadaam was deposed and even dead but he would hear none of it. I also tried to pull his head out of the sand but it's stuck and I can't and won't try any further. I like the guy but you can't budge him from his opinion. So be it. I also bank somewhere else as I don't feel comfortable with doing business with a bank run by an ostrich. I also know another banker who heard about it from a customer and he did his research. He owns Dinars now. Some will listen and some won't. Just because a banker says nay doesn't make them right or more knowledgeable and I've seen that for myself. They have made their choices and apparently you have as well. Good. Thats your right to do so. But whatever your choice is like I said to SteveG you live with it and don't try and convince me or the forum as a whole that your opinion out weighs mine or theirs. I have concluded you are not fully informed and I don't agree with your conclusions. Example. 70% of the 30 trillion is held by the US,Europe and China. Got any proof of that. I bet you don't. You research that. Your butt is hanging out on that one. That information is incorrect. One more thing. In your first post you said millions are being duped into buying into this scam. Now first off there is an estimated 1.5 million private holders of Dinar of which 750k reside in the US. But that is only an estimate as no one truly knows. Dinar Trade has stated that they have 350K customers with most in the US. You said millions. Do you have any info that can back that up? Then if not don't make any assumption based on your opinion because in here I'm gonna ask for a link. Got anything to back up those millions you claim exist. Furthermore what exactly do you mean protections for forum readers. Lot's of people looking in. Oh yeah? Well this has been going on for years and if that is true then where have those watchdogs been" You have any proof that this Dinar thingy is growing scales as you suggest? Then provide that information. If not then what? Rely on you for all my protection? Hardly. You even stated that you just wish you had access to the selling side of the equation. Since you think that this is all so much BS I guess you would like it if you could be the one selling swamp land to the city kiddies huh? That would be post 30 of this thread. Gosh darn reputable banker. that sucks really. Seems I need more protection from the likes of you instead of relying on you for financial advice. What did you expect from me. You have insulted the moderators who try and do their best for all of us by implying that they are involved in shady cahoots with Adam Montana to soak the members of money. You have talked down too the entire forum and continue too do so. I am not a VIP member. But I don't see anybodies arm being twisted to pay anything. They have heard what they receive for their money and they accept it. Who are you to imply any differently? By that alone you are implying I am being duped by a slick con artist and you wish you had thought of it first. Wow!! How reassuring your credibility is.. Well you can bet I won't be doing business with you. Adam Montana has publicly stated his reasons for the membership fees and you just wish you could be the one who is bilking the poor duped members of the forum. Your post not mine and if you think I have misinterpreted your words then be more clear next time because the damage is already done. You don't think I talk to other members who feel the same way? You'd be wrong about that. Ok I have given you more of my time than you deserve. I expect you to respond and defend your position but it doesn't matter as I will not address either of you any further. What I would prefer is that you become contributing members and be respectful of the members here who have a different opinion from yours. But I bet you won't. I would also appreciate if you would tone down your snarky attitudes because as you can see from several of the responses to this nonsense others do agree with my admonitions. They too saw your posts for what they were and you can whine and complain all you want but again the damage is done. Even I will receive some butt chewing because I have posted the longest post ever and just couldn't keep my mouth shut and quite frankly I probably deserve it. Fine I'll accept that. But no one can take away from me my right defend the forum when people such as you and SteveG come here and stir the pot with your uneducated statements and accusations as I take that kind of stuff personally. My motivations are to defend my opinion and my forum and to do so with all the knowledge I possess and lady I know a lot more than either of you can possibly understand and yet you talk to me like I haven't a brain one in my head. Well I do. I have worked hard to get that information as I don't want blow my investment.. I am irritated and I have been rude and for that I should apologize but I won't. I'd rather take the heat than to apologize too the likes of people like you. Show this forum some respect and lay off your attitudes and maybe you will be respected for what you say you know. As for me? We are done. "Seriously...I'm not being snarky at the moment....maybe in another post." Nice. Real nice. Your words. My response.

From Allawi's Facebook page Perhaps this is where it came from http://www.facebook....1?v=info&ref=ts 14 - There was a clear foundations for the economic policy of the State including the following: - To reduce and cancel debts on Iraq. - To reduce unemployment. - Maximizing the oil imports. - Increased salaries and quotas and reducing the burden of the people. - Install the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar against other currencies. - Making use of donor countries (led by Dr. Iyad Allawi, the Iraqi delegation to the Conference of Donor States when he was President of the Council of periodic sentence). Read more:

Is it just me or is it impossible for Iraq and the Iraqis to just say things straight out like it really is? When I was a teenager there was a show called “To Tell The Truth”. The premise was that a person with a unique story would be put on stage with two imposters and all would try to convince a celebrity panel of judges that they were, indeed, the character with the unique story. I watched as my Great Uncle a VP at Monsanto Intl. appeared and pretended to be a Navy Captain. He was convincing enough to get two votes from the judges. The remaining votes went to the real Captain. The other imposter got no votes. Once all of the votes were cast the host would ask, “will the REAL So-and-So, please stand up.” The three would then pretend to get up, sit … first one, then another … drawing out the suspense until finally the real personality would indeed stand up. The audience would applaud ... eventually, the host interviewed the imposters asking who they really were and what they really did. As a kid, I was extremely proud of my Great Uncle that he had had the presence to fool the more than a little jaded celebrity panel. I’ve had IQD for some 17 months now. I didn’t find DV immediately. I got periodic KTFM posts from my friend who introduced me to IQD (and later gently insisted that I buy some). In the time that I have been researching news articles, blogs, posts, and other speculation about the IQD I have become more than a little jaded and I’ve learned some very important facts … not the least of which is that because everyone seems to be lieing about everything, when you are told the truth you don’t even recognize it. Will the REAL PM please stand up! Will the REAL Lopster please stand up! Will the REAL “000’s”please stand up! Will the REAL Loan Originator/Taker please stand up! Will the REAL President please stand up! Will the REAL winner please stand up! Will the REAL budget please stand up! Will the REAL rate please stand up! Will the REAL date please stand up! Will the REAL Iraq please stand up! Will the REAL embezzelers please stand up! Feel free to add on to the list … I mean, it’s been a ride but mostly because just as my Great Uncle had the presence to fool the celebrity panel … so have the pretenders in this charade! There is more than a little consolation, I suppose, in the fact that … if you believe that they would form a country and rise from the ashes to be the “Jewel of the Med”… if you took your hard earned (or ill-gotten) cash and exchanged it for an odd looking currency with letters and numbers on it that you couldn’t read … if you learned security features on that strange currency so that you were a victor and not a victim … if you kept the faith and didn’t flush/burn/dispose of said currency … eventually … I said eventually … after all of the up/down, pretend to stand/sit … EVENTUALLY … the REAL RI/RV’d (still to be determined … and don’t give me the semantics about this currency that has never existed before not being able to be “re-instated”… you know good and well what is meant by RI … returns to a previous established level) … let me start again … (Here’s the rumor) … I predict that just like the show … EVENTUALLY, the real RI/RV WILL STAND UP and show themselves to be the “Jewel of the Med” to the entire world! Just like the show … some will have voted for one imposter and bought a currency/stock/bond/RE that is less productive than the IQD … still others will have not voted at all, choosing to own nothing … but a few will have sorted through all of lies and voted (by spending their cash) for the REAL Winner … the IQD. When is our new national holiday the Iraqi Dinar RI/RV day? … stay tuned as we ask the REAL Iraq to PLEASE STAND UP! PEACE Doc I wrote this and then read this evening's Frank26 KTFM post ... LOL ... I guess we are all on the same page wondering about the Iraqi's

The following link indicates that they MUST CONVENE Parliment within 15 days of Certification according to the Constitution... Thank God, I have my Peace of Mind back.... The statement in the original Post above is "Misleading"...!

Expert: last day to determine the date of the first parliamentary session is 15/6 June 7, 2010 · Posted in DDT - NEWS TIDBIT: Posted on zzz by Admin zzz. Thank you! – DD 08/06/2010 - Aswat al-Iraq News (Voice of Iraq) – BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: The legal expert Tareq Harb, Monday, that the Presidency is determined by the date of the first session of the House of Representatives in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution, noting that the last day to determine the hearing date is 15 June this month. The War Agency (Voices of Iraq) that “the scheduling of the first session of the new parliament is the prerogative of the Presidential Council in accordance with the provisions of Article 138 of the Constitution.” The first paragraph of Article 138 is constitutional: The expression “the Presidency Council replace the expression” President of the Republic wherever it appears in this constitution, and regulations for the President of the Republic, after one session of the subsequent entry into force of this Constitution. The second paragraph states in part: House of Representatives shall be elected as Chairman of the State and two Vice Presidents who shall form a council called the Presidential Council, is elected by one list and two-thirds majority. And a war that “further to determine the duration of the meeting of parliament’s first (15/06/2010), has been invited by President Jalal Talabani to prepare for a few days before the meeting, but in the June 15 ending the period prescribed legally and constitutionally to determine the time.” Article 54 of the Constitution: the president invites the Council to convene a presidential decree within fifteen days from the date of certification of the election results, and the meeting will be held under the chairmanship of the oldest member, to elect a Speaker and two deputies, may not be extended for more than the period mentioned above. The Federal Supreme Court announced on (06.01.2010) ratifying the final results of general elections for membership of the House of Representatives in 2010 on the forms approved by the Electoral Commission for elections based on the provisions of the seventh paragraph of Article 93 of the Constitution of the Republic of Iraq. And how long that can remain the first session of the Parliament are open, said the war “The meeting is open is the norm constitutional and not a constitutional basis and no problem of being open, so long as the practice of the reality of political entities and large variations and the dispersion of votes and the absence of a large list can collect lists involve other underneath, all the justification given to the new Council of Representatives the opportunity to make the session open after the swearing-in. “ The Iraqi President Jalal Talabani sent a letter to the leaders of political blocs winners are required to submit proposals to him on the timing of the first session of parliament which, according to the Constitution should be calling her President of the Republic two weeks after the ratification of the Federal Court on the election results, and come to invite Talabani after six days Authentication federal court on the entire election results. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.sotaliraq.com/iraq-news.php%3Fid%3D1854&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsotaliraq%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7ACGW_enUS367US367&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1 Now I'm a bit confused - They are saying they have 15 days to decide when to convene Parliment....Not, Parliment must be convened within 15 days. Iraq is definitely dancing to the tune of their own drummer, and not exactly following the intention of their own Constitution. Unless all this media hype is to blow smoke up our butts...which is more than likely......However, we are speaking of Iraq, where anything can happen - no matter how illogical...IMHO Just a bit of FRUSTRATION <Addition: See Post #4 Below for answer> RON

They are no different than our gov really they just get called on it more. you see it is funny people talk about the violence in Iraq. More people were killed in Detroit last month that in Iraq how scary is that. it will all come in time keep the faith and take everything you "hear" with a grain of salt.

AS I WRITE MY REPLY TO THIS POST, I NEED TO HONESTLY SAY IT MADE ME CRY---------WOW !! AFEW YEARS BACK I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT OUR NATIONS ARLINGTON CEMETARY UPON SEEING THE FOREVER ENDLESS ROWS OF WHITE CROSSES AND GRAVE MARKERS, WELL THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE LITERALLY LEFT ME FEELING LIKE I COULD'NT BREATH. ABSOLUTELY THE MOST REVERENT FEELING I'LL EVER EXPERIENCE. IT PISSES ME OFF NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT HOW THIS CURRENT PRESIDENT COULD'NT BRING HIMSELF THIS PAST MEMORIAL DAY TO PAY HIS RESPECTS TO OUR COUNTRY'S FALLEN.!!!! PERSONALLY I THINK HE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED FOR THAT ONE ACT ALONE. IF MY COMMENTS UPSET ANYONE---WELL I WON'T APOLOGISE BEAUSE I FEEL THAT ANY TRUE PATRIOTIC AMERICAN WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY.

Lots of different opinion's here from the principles that is for sure. The one opinion that made me happy was the opinion of the average guy who called in. It was clear that they wanted these self-serving politicians to quit the ridiculous in-fighting and get their act together as to protect them. Improve the lives of the citizens and do the peoples business. They are not interested in the need for foreign government to interfere and they wanted above all for the democratic gains paid for in buckets of blood and pain to be protected and placed first on the list of what is most important. Not the interest of self-serving politicians who seemingly have no interest in common with the Iraqi street. Touche!! You know what? I am gonna give the lowly GI credit for this one. I'm even gonna give that credit to the lowly contractors working over there for this as well. There could be nothing better than to have our citizens and their citizens in contact with each other. It has always been and always will be that the best example of Democracy lies in the people that make up the "United States of America".. Beautiful name huh. You ask any American who has been over there on this forum and they usually tell you they liked the basic Iraqi. That they were asked questions and they took time to answer the best they could. Read again what those callers were saying. They wanted their democracy and they want the politicians to get on with it or they are afraid they will lose all they have paid so dearly for. I agree. That they said so makes me proud. Now where did they get that from? These poor people for centuries have been living in one form of repressive regime or another and till right now they have had no experience with a democracy. So after long thought I'm gonna say they got it from the soldiers and civilians who have served my country cause I can't see where any of their politicians or ours would have given them a clue of what a democracy is.even remotely about. Even If I am wrong I say to all who served.........Job well done....Thank You. "Company.... Dismissed!!" Great Post Bumper64 Thanks!!

Gjrl1978 doesn't have to be bashed... she's merely uninformed and has a right to her own opinion. Hopefully she will do some research on her own and join the rest of us (informed and uninformed) in this potentially good investment!