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Hi there I have a small group in SW Florida. One of it's members is really angry with those of his friends who did not follow his advice and buy IQD. I've used different analogies and allogories in an effort to get him past it but nothing has helped. When I say that he is angry ... his response is WAY OVER THE TOP! Today it occurred to me how to explain it to him though. I called and asked him if he remembered Tom Cruise in the movie "Top Gun" and he did. I asked him if he remembered when Goose was killed and Maverick had a serious confidence problem. He said that he did. I then asked if he remembered the scene where Maverick had been cleared of the incident and was back in an F14 in a Top Gun dogfight with an F4 when he suddenly disengaged. He said, "yeah" . In the movie, Goose's replacement (called a RIO) asked Maverick what he was doing. Maverick replied, "it doesn't look good." His new RIO replied, "IT DOESN'T GET TO LOOK ANY BETTER THAN THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" The moral of the story is that some folks just aren't "TOP GUN" material ... some folks are designed to step out ... to take a chance ... others are not. Some of your friends won't because they have no vision. Others have no money. Others have nothing but fear. Some have always thought that you are nuts and wouldn't follow your investment advice EVER. Even though you are more educated than their investment counselor who has consistently lost their money for YEARS! My counsel to you is this ... Do it or don't. It is a risk as all investments are. I personally do not believe that you will see the amount of leverage being offered to you presently by the IQD in your's or your children's lifetime ever again. That said, never spend more than you can afford to lose ... and yes that means don't bet next month's mortgage on a rumor! Oh ... I always tell my group when they ask me something and I give my opinion that "that and a $1.79 will get you a cup of coffee at 7/11". In other words, it's just my opinion. Study ... pray ... decide what is appropriate for you and your family. Just so you know, I'm still buying IQD ... and I have a bunch ... and I buy more every week (along with our group) and I will continue to buy more until our new national holiday ... the "Iraqi RI/RV Day" which I will thank God for and celebrate annually! PEACE TO ALL Doc31 To all of our active and retired military personnel ... thank you for your service and sacrifice ... have a great weekend and be blessed.

Nobody is being played here. Nobody is twisting anyone's arm to buy anything. You don't want an offshore corp? Then don't set one up. You don't want VIP? Then don't pay for it. Adam's book? Same deal. I'd like to believe that most people here are intelligent enough to be able to rationally size things up for themselves... and make decisions like, "do I want VIP or not?" on their own. No sales pressure needed, nor is there any used. If you feel "pushed" or as you put it "played" here.. then you truly have a simple and uneducated mind, and you probably shouldn't be playing with your dinar OR your dong. For God's sake zipzap99 if you hate it here and have been banned before, then WHY on earth would you want to be here to begin with?

Dinar Rumors: Letter from Warka Bank May 28, 2010 · Posted in another site's Tidbits - CHATS / POSTS Letter from Warka Bank – 3 Zero News “Null and Void” Here is a statement from Warka Bank (largest privately owned Bank in Iraq 120+ branches approx.) – as you can se the CBI is using the media for propaganda purposes in order to curb speculation – if any of the 3 zero stories held water the bank(s) would of course be officially notified – as per the letter from Mr. Issa below they have not been notified of any changes. I deal with this bank and have several emails from him over the years – as per an earlier agreement we have, as a group, decided to keep his full name off the internet. If you deal with the bank or their ISX dept, you are fully aware of his name and title – he is quite respected and revered as a true professional for Warka Bank and it’s ISX dept............In other words "No LOP...!" Note – From Mr Issa of Warka Bank “The CBI has not provided official written notification to the banking sector and banks regarding this matter thus it is considered null and void by the Iraqi banking sector and this is the general law noting that we contacted the CBI regarding this matter where they did not provide anything official to comment on simply stating that this matter is under study and has been so for the past few years nothing more nothing less. The value the currency, shares, property…etc will be set in accordance with the value of IQD applied and affected by the CBI in accordance with the law where the value of the IQD is set in accordance with the value they set and this standard general practice. If a revalue takes the entire IQD will be revalued in accordance with the rate the CBI sets. From our prospective we can not comment and will not comment any further unless the CBI officially announces that the removing of the 3 zeros or revaluation will actually take place by providing the banking sector written documentation where this would be the standard general verification and confirmation currently practiced.”

I normally dont start threads but I have something small to share. I'm boots on the ground and I still keep in touch with an sub contract worker from my last site. We both know a local national that does work on that site. I told my scw friend to ask the local national what he thinks of some of these articles i had been getting out of the news that was a couple of days ago. I spoke with my friend today and he said that the local national is excited and is expecting their currency to revalue sometime this year or begining of next year at the same time he is expecting to see American companies. He also is no longer holding dollars just dinars. I was at that site for 2 years, this LN was always using cash and seemed to be a cut above other people I had seen, doesnt mean that I know him personally enough to trust him, just that he is good worker and I never knew of him to go back on his word. Everyone always spoke well of him. Now none of this is great intel and it doesnt match up with things we are watching but its still nice to see things happen around you that match up with what some of the articles and opinions I've read. I guess I should take a walk to the bazaar and see if i can do another exchange for dinars, if my guy says no...I will take that as good news.

well i guess you have not looked into the investment long enough to know that what is being said by some is not baseless. There has been some really good information posted here Some not worth looking at. . If you pay attention to what Adam and some other people post, you would retract the baseless statement. look a little deeper, and you will find some really good info. Possum is who he is, and his posts, IMO should be taken as entertainment only. Most of us enjoy his posts. if you don't like it here, leave, and dont read what is said. I like it here. Adam is honest, and gives good info, No predictions. Best wishes Dave

Howdy believers, ready for a party???? Possum is! The Possum has the pit fired up and slapping briskets on it this evening for an 18 hour cook with pecan wood. And yes, momma bought Possum plenty of cold beer for the party and he is already ahead of the game. It's 98 degrees on the Trinity river and Possum don't want to get over-heated. We will memorialize our warriors who gave all and never forget them at the Possum village. Life is a gift, enjoy it and prepare yourselves for the RV gift that will unwrap before the 15th of June. Now go out and Party!!!!!

1 ) If you don't like the information, don't read it. 2 ) If you post something the owners of this site don't like and you get banned.....DUH! If some one came into your house or place of business and started trash talking, would you ask them to leave? Of course you would. 3 ) News = news, rumor = rumor, chat logs = opinions, seems pretty simple to me. JMO, incase that is too cryptic..... just my opinion.

May 27, 2010 · Posted in RUMORS From my boss’s brother in Baghdad, Colonel told him, China is not going to drill anymore till Iraq opens on the foreign market and Kuwait is demanding Iraq, come up to their rate before they’ll let them out of Chapter 7 (Kuwait dinar is currently 3.44)….got this news about 30 minutes ago…….

Umm, Katrina was a hurricane and flood. NOLA was unprepared! Dem Mayor and Dem Governor! The Governor didn't even want to send buses! That hiccup was a Dem driven problem that the Feds had to step in because of their lack preparedness! Also, its spelled C-h-a-n-e-y and he has no "company". If you're refering to haliburton, they've been doing business with the USA Gov since the early 1900s and have nothing to do with approving the oil lease and regulating it, etc. So, either learn something before you try to rebut, or get a job, or just go back to bed and save the world from another over employed fast food worker's poliitical opinion!! Btw, the Iraq war freed innocent people from Saddam, and also allowed you to be able to make this investment. I don't see why a Bush basher would own dinar. Although, most Dems are hypocrites!! p.s. Dems took over in 2006, also Dems were over seeing the banking industry! Prior to that the economy was very strong and stable! Not to mention, Obama tripled deficit in first 9 months of office.

Wow, the irony!! A post urging "Let's Get Honest"????? Every claim is baseless and all the intel is meaningless. You must have just a HUGE load of cerebral succotash to be able to distill to such a rational conclusion literally YEARS of observation, calculations, research, hope, prayer of people who need this RV and may well be correct in the conclusions that most aspire here to. And you know, its just my baseless opinion, but it seems to me that there are a couple of additional points this large muscle emanating from your brain stem might want to ponder: - people come to this site because they share a common belief about the potential of this investment. - people REMAIN here because we share a common belief about the potential of this investment. - some of us have actually reached our investment conclusions without the 'help' of dinar pumpers. - investors by there very nature are speculators. Maybe you should talk to some of them? You wanna get honest, buddy, so if this IQD thing was not just speculation? If it was a 'sure thing?' You think there'd be any dinar for sale? Again. Talk to the investors. Talk to speculators. Talk to people who buy and sell for a living. Investment involves risk. Risk might well have something to do with profit. No offense to "stupid" possom predictions? and the Crawdays, and God forbid - the BEER. Yeah, we got that. No offense to such scientific vernacular. We are just being "honest" here. LET's BE HONEST: If this is some kind of appeal to the masses here that you are losing your faith, you need someone to talk you out of the conclusions you at least appear to have in your post, just say so. If you don't have the intestinal fortitude to be here for the long run, just sell off and cut your losses. We are certainly not gonna carry you through this. No one is gonna hold your hand through this. cheers,

May 27, 2010 · Posted in CHATS / POSTS TIDBIT: Yes, I know… Med only named two. Anyone know what the 3rd one was? I’m leaving this open for comments in case someone out there knows the 3rd “sign”. Thanks! – DD Med: I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU A HINT ON WHAT AN RV ENTAILS AND WHEN YOU WILL KNOW IT IS HERE OR COMING THERE ARE 3 KEYS TO AN RV 1) THE COUNTRY REMOVES EXCESS LIQUIDITY FROM CIRCULATION SMALL DENOMS ARE STARTING TO BE SEEN IN CIRCULATION THOSE ARE THE 3 SIGNS OF AN RV OR ONE COMING WE ARE WAITING FOR #2 AND #3 I TALKED TO LAN JUST A BIT AGO AND HE SAID THE REMOVAL OF OVER 20 TRILLION IQD WAS HUGE AND THAT IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THEM IMPLEMENTING THE REVALUATION OR REBASING HE SAID REMOVING THAT MUCH LIQUIDITY GREATLY INCREASES THE VALUE OF THE IQD OK THAT IS ALL I WISH TO SAY RIGHT NOW TY ALL DONE

Hi there I have a small group in SW Florida. One of it's members is really angry with those of his friends who did not follow his advice and buy IQD. I've used different analogies and allogories in an effort to get him past it but nothing has helped. When I say that he is angry ... his response is WAY OVER THE TOP! Today it occurred to me how to explain it to him though. I called and asked him if he remembered Tom Cruise in the movie "Top Gun" and he did. I asked him if he remembered when Goose was killed and Maverick had a serious confidence problem. He said that he did. I then asked if he remembered the scene where Maverick had been cleared of the incident and was back in an F14 in a Top Gun dogfight with an F4 when he suddenly disengaged. He said, "yeah" . In the movie, Goose's replacement (called a RIO) asked Maverick what he was doing. Maverick replied, "it doesn't look good." His new RIO replied, "IT DOESN'T GET TO LOOK ANY BETTER THAN THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" The moral of the story is that some folks just aren't "TOP GUN" material ... some folks are designed to step out ... to take a chance ... others are not. Some of your friends won't because they have no vision. Others have no money. Others have nothing but fear. Some have always thought that you are nuts and wouldn't follow your investment advice EVER. Even though you are more educated than their investment counselor who has consistently lost their money for YEARS! My counsel to you is this ... Do it or don't. It is a risk as all investments are. I personally do not believe that you will see the amount of leverage being offered to you presently by the IQD in your's or your children's lifetime ever again. That said, never spend more than you can afford to lose ... and yes that means don't bet next month's mortgage on a rumor! Oh ... I always tell my group when they ask me something and I give my opinion that "that and a $1.79 will get you a cup of coffee at 7/11". In other words, it's just my opinion. Study ... pray ... decide what is appropriate for you and your family. Just so you know, I'm still buying IQD ... and I have a bunch ... and I buy more every week (along with our group) and I will continue to buy more until our new national holiday ... the "Iraqi RI/RV Day" which I will thank God for and celebrate annually! PEACE TO ALL Doc31 To all of our active and retired military personnel ... thank you for your service and sacrifice ... have a great weekend and be blessed.

Sometimes I think we forget what we're involed in. To invest/trade in Foreign currency is called specutaltion investing. So lets look at what we have. Definitions of 'speculation' (spĕḱyə-lā́shən) Dictionary.com · The American Heritage® Dictionary - (2 definitions) (noun) Contemplation or consideration of a subject; meditation. A conclusion, opinion, or theory reached by conjecture. Reasoning based on inconclusive evidence; conjecture or supposition. Engagement in risky business transactions on the chance of quick or considerable profit. A commercial or financial transaction involving speculation. So keep this in mind as we all hope for the best and know what risk we take.

How soon THEY forget. Go President Obama I support you.

Here's a suggestion for you. Find a few posters you like for the information they provide (and not just because they tell you what you want to hear, but make good posts or good analysis). You can keep up with their post. You can do this by going to the "MEMBERS" tab and searching their name. Once you find them, you can click on link to all their threads and all their posts. If you click on their name you go to their profile page and read a little info on them and you can also post a message to them. Under their photo, you will also see links to all their posts and all the threads they have started. This may help you weed out many posts that frustrate you ... lots of good things get buried and can be hard to find. One person I like to follow is member "drox" as he provides a clear analysis that I can follow, but there are many other good ones, for example ... bob lob_law, doc31 .... I know I'm leaving some of my favorites out .. .but it's 5am here! ... I'm not saying I agree with everything they say, but they help me undersatnd. There are many who posts good articles, bringing you the news, but sometimes those are more difficult to sift through if you are not sure what to look for. Adam and Sonny suggested following NOT the general news ... but releases and interviews with folks like CBI, UN, World Trade Organization, IMF ... and other orgs like that. The Iraq news agents are often meant to put out one side's message. Elections are important, UN resolutions and Chapter 7 restrictions, Kuwait-Iraq issues regarding reparations, border issues, returning artifacts, etc., IMF Letter of Intent. Also, check the "Pinned" articles at top of forum sections. Sometimes MODS will grab an informative posts and place there. Check the one by the economists under Rumors. Also, someone suggested they thought paying for VIP membership is worth it ... I agree. And one of the first things I did was buy Adam's e-book and found that to be very helpful. If you don't have the funds, that's fine, you just have to be a little more deliberate in seeking your news. VIP is known for more serious posts on most topics, generally, but not always. Of course, everyone wouldn't agree with that. Sign-up for a month and try it. Much great information is here ... . but it does take a little effort to find what is helpful to you. Luckylucy

GOD BLESS OUR SOLDIERS ALL, PAST AND PRESENT>

Here's what former member (botat) sent me. He just came back from MiddleEast. he's consultant working with Morgan Stanley re acquisitions, etc. I've emailed him asking more questions, but would love to hear more from you also. If they pull in currency, then would an RV happen first, then later change the denominations .. like next year as I've seen. ***********************.com> date Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:36 PM How's life been in DV world. I trust you saw the announcement by the CBI about the bond sale. That was exactly what Nick had referred to on the news that was coming from them. Morgan Stanley had a small part to play in that. I know you saw that stuff about the 70% withdraw of circulated currency. As I said before in all my chats on DV they would not RV till the currency had been decreased. I personally don't think we will see a In-Country RV, as it just doesn't mesh with all that is going on. In-Country RV's are pretty much a thing of the past. There is no need for them to do it if they have the currency supply down that much. So as I said before it will end up being end of June to early July once all the year end audits are done and they have accounted for all the currency they can look at the RV and not till then. 2nd email from botat Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM ......... Regarding the bond sales. The more money Iraq borrows from the IMF and World Bank the more control those 2 have in the way of policies and regulations set on Iraq. Look what the 2 of them did to Jamaica. The policies that they set in place left Jamaica in a sad state unable to survive on there own as they previoulsy did. Iraq is actually being smart and trying to avoid them having anymore control then they already do. Now given iraq has a lot more potential with all the oil but the IMF and World Bank I can assure you are acting on the same principles that they did with Jamaica. People keep talking about how the IMF is pushing Iraq to revalue, but it's just the opposite. They don't want them to because they would lose control over the oil and they don't want that. It's my belief that this is whay the RV has been so prolonged as it has. Nick's firm did a study of all countries that the IMF has bailed out and found that all but one has had to give in to their demands, Iraq. We think the Iraqis are stupid but they're not. The best thing possible for them to do is stay out of IMF control and they are doing it. With the problems in Europe the IMF will now have to take a back seat and let the RV come, they really have no choice. ..........

My 100th Post. A few weeks ago Adam contacted me and asked whether I was going to complete 100 Posts. This is one of the factors that spurred me to get this done. The other things that have acted as spurs are, firstly, the (not uncommon) concept of rating membership by the number of Posts, as distinct from the quality of Posts. (Amazon is one of the few organizations that seem to have a handle on this issue!). I have tried (not always successfully) to keep my Posts relevant or humorous. Of course having a weird sense of humour doesn’t always help! Going along this is the existence on this site, and on others, of people who either have far too much time on their hands, or some unmentionable mental deficiency, that sees them posting meaningless, inane, or plain stupid Posts just for the sake of having a high ‘number’ of Posts. Unless of course they do not realize how pathetic a Post of “hello” really is! But the primary motivation driving me to become a “Member”, as distinct from a “Junior Member”, is the fact that I am not “Junior”, in any sense. Indeed, I can no longer whistle (which I do very well) or sing (which I do with gusto but less appreciation) the old Beatles song “Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I’m Sixty Four?” There is something just a little demeaning in still being a “Junior” at that age! As one who has been invested in Dinar since 2005, and who has encouraged others to join my path towards financial independence, I am completely focused and convinced of the certainty of an RV. Increasingly I see signs that suggest it is no longer “some time in the future” but rather “just around the corner”. I see DinarVets as a very significant force in encouraging us all to look forward with optimism, and to help (especially, it seems, through VIP Group) those who want to maintain a more focused control on their future post-RV. I do not know if I will make it to Senior Member, which I understand cuts in at 200 Posts. In part because I do have things to do and places to go; in part because I know that my input into this Message Board will not bring the RV forward (in time); but largely because I believe the awaited RV will occur before I can achieve that number of meaningful Posts! All the best to us all!

I know sometimes my posts are not the nicest but, there are some members here that give good insight and just a pleasure to read their posts. IMO Sunny1 is a great asset to this site and will create a void that will be missed. I know that the last few months it's been really nasty , more so then it has ever been.It is time to do a turn around and with Sonny1 gone I feel it will get worse. Maybe if we all get together and support Sonny1 and let him know he is a big part of this site . If not I am sure Sonny1 will be truly missed but , this is worth a try. What do you think? Lets support one of the good guys!!! Thanks for your time.

Scooter Chat 5/26/2010 - dont promote other sites Scooter] Manager of Rafideen bank : Iraq is the only country in the world where Money is carried in bags Manager of biggest Iraqi bank Abdul Hussein Alyasiry said that Iraq is the only country in the world where financial liquids being exchanged by bags pointing that there is governmental will to eliminate zeros from the currency to overcome the huge liquids [scooter] Alyasiry clarified that Alrafideen bank suffered a lot in the past starting with the economic sanctions on 1991 and then the lootings that happened on the year of 2003. And he adding saying Alrafideen bank suffered big losses but I stood there and worked on keeping this institution and by working with the Iraqi government now the bank became stronger than it was in the past and we turned the losses into profits where our profits in the year of 2006 reached 321 billion ID and 727 billion on the year of 2007 and we succeeded in withdrawing 70 percent of Iraqi liquids which worth 24 trillion ID out of 28 trillion ID and he added saying now we are supporting Iraqi economy through supporting industry and services , construction , loans for farmers and especially the housing projects where we gave the real estate bank 300 billion ID to help building housing units and also we support the ministries of foreign affairs , ministry of interior , ministry of trade and we gave loan to the ministry of electricity worth of 5 trillion ID and loan to the ministry of industry worth of 24 million us dollar to rehabilitate its companies. [tim5400] Scooter because of the size of these planned improvements ..is that the reason for the rv too [Floodson] Scooter, Iraq has some payments due, so they must RV, right ? [scooter] tim5400 --- Yes sir!!!! --- the combination must occur --- otherwise you'll have a massive bubble like China is about to realize [robo5288] Scooter When are they going to pull the plug on this thing? [scooter] robo5288 ---- No idea --- [scooter] Once the rate has been locked and loaded into system --- the decision to pull the trigger --- becomes political [scooter] No one knows -- and if anybody says they do know -- besides magice -- they are absolutely wrong [scooter] IMO [tim5400] Scooter IF it happened tomorrow could Iraq handle the repercussions [scooter] That's just my opinion [mudman] Scooter when rv does occur do you think it will come in kind of low and float [scooter] tim5400 --- Tim -- It could happen anytime --- The plan has been approved --- [scooter] However [scooter] Probably not until after the banking Allocations and restructuring is completed [tim5400] Scooter r and r banks? [robo5288] The heat has been turned up dramatically the last few days; unlike anything I have seen up to this point. Much is being said from all involved. Iraqi's know that the world is not happy with them at all. This bodes well for us. [scooter] tim5400 -- I don't understand the R and R banks [tim5400] Rasheed and Rafidian [scooter] Are you referring to the two gov banks [scooter] gotcha [scooter] sorry [tim5400] it was easier [scooter] That transition occurs June 30th, 2010 -- very quickly [scooter] combine that with the 70% draw down -- [scooter] the only other accelerator for rate [scooter] becomes interest percentage [scooter] Mudman --- That's a great question , particularly [scooter] during these financial times [scooter] Here's situation [scooter] Every Middle eastern [scooter] country [scooter] peg's itself to the U [scooter] usd [scooter] However [scooter] in 2006 --- there was a strong divergent with the USD [scooter] Now [scooter] What you'll start to see is a framework around a basket of currencies [scooter] Today [scooter] Was the first time I've heard the theory of three adjustments [scooter] so [scooter] the question becomes [scooter] for me -- [scooter] will this be a single RV --- double -- or triple [scooter] I need to do some more research [scooter] If you noticed the GCC [scooter] and their recent halt [scooter] theres a reason for that [scooter] The Euro scared the absolute crap out of them [scooter] excuse my language [scooter] Largely because [scooter] they didn't have the safeguards for each countries debt [scooter] Ghost Rider GE [scooter] I'm just pontificating [scooter] Good to see you my friend [scooter] let me finish my thought [scooter] mudman -- your question [scooter] about Float or [scooter] come in low [scooter] This is going to be determined on [scooter] those statistics I was just sharing [scooter] the macro stats are calculated first -- then the micro --- then IMF consolidates [scooter] then gives the keys to shabibi [scooter] my guess [scooter] it's going to be a basket of currencies that it floats against [scooter] and a strong possiblity of multi -- tiered approach [scooter] symetrically aligned with the [scooter] fund allocations [scooter] mudman -- What do you think [crndog10] this weekend? [scooter] and a strong possiblity of multi -- tiered approach [scooter] symetrically aligned with the [scooter] fund allocations [scooter] mudman -- What do you think [crndog10] this weekend? [scooter] crndog10 --- I think a low percentage chance for this weekend my friend

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS! A friend sent this along to me. I can't think of a reason to disagree. I am sending this to virtually everybody on my e-mail list and that includes conservatives, liberals, and everybody in between. Even though we disagree on a number of issues, I count all of you as friends. My friend and neighbor wants to promote a "Congressional Reform Act of 2010." It would contain eight provisions, all of which would probably be strongly endorsed by those who drafted the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I know many of you will say "this is impossible." Let me remind you, Congress has the lowest approval rating of any entity in Government. Now is the time when Americans will join together to reform Congress - the entity that represents us. We need to get a Senator to introduce this bill in the US Senate and a Representative to introduce a similar bill in the US House. These people will become American heroes. ********************************** Congressional Reform Act of 2010 1. Term Limits. 12 years only, one of the possible options below.. A. Two Six-year Senate terms B. Six Two-year House terms C. One Six-year Senate term and three Two-Year House terms 2. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office. 3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. 4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do. 5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%. 6. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people. 7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people. 8. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/11. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. If you agree with the above, pass it on. If not, just delete.

I have a friend like that too. He thinks we are nutts but he is the one with 6 kids. I told him he could not afford not to give 1000 bucks at a chance like this. He still thinks we are nutts. Most of my friends have at least 1,000,000. and I think that is a safe risk. Even at .83 cents thier homes will be paid off they will be debt free. We all make around 100,000 p/y so we will be set after this.My other friend will just have to think we are all nutts!!!

Thanks for your post and your analogy. It is spot on. Thanks for sharing it...... Have a safe Holiday weekend...

By Charles Krauthammer Friday, December 5, 2008 The barbarism in Mumbai and the economic crisis at home have largely overshadowed an otherwise singular event: the ratification of military and strategic cooperation agreements between Iraq and the United States. They must not pass unnoted. They were certainly noted by Iran, which fought fiercely to undermine the agreements. Tehran understood how a formal U.S.-Iraqi alliance endorsed by a broad Iraqi consensus expressed in a freely elected parliament changes the strategic balance in the region. U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Dustin Gillette with schoolchildren while on patrol in Iraq on Wednesday. (By Maya Alleruzzo -- Associated Press) For the United States, this represents the single most important geopolitical advance in the region since Henry Kissinger turned Egypt from a Soviet client into an American ally. If we don't blow it with too hasty a withdrawal from Iraq, we will have turned a chronically destabilizing enemy state at the epicenter of the Arab Middle East into an ally. Also largely overlooked at home was the sheer wonder of the procedure that produced Iraq's consent: classic legislative maneuvering with no more than a tussle or two -- tame by international standards (see YouTube: "Best Taiwanese Parliament Fights of All Time!") -- over the most fundamental issues of national identity and direction. The only significant opposition bloc was the Sadrists, a mere 30 seats out of 275. The ostensibly pro-Iranian religious Shiite parties resisted Tehran's pressure and championed the agreement. As did the Kurds. The Sunnis put up the greatest fight. But their concern was that America would be withdrawing too soon, leaving them subject to overbearing and perhaps even vengeful Shiite dominance. The Sunnis, who only a few years ago had boycotted provincial elections, bargained with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, trying to exploit his personal stake in agreements he himself had negotiated. They did not achieve their maximum objectives. But they did get formal legislative commitments for future consideration of their grievances, from amnesty to further relaxation of the de-Baathification laws. That any of this democratic give-and-take should be happening in a peaceful parliament just two years after Iraq's descent into sectarian hell is in itself astonishing. Nor is the setting of a withdrawal date terribly troubling. The deadline is almost entirely symbolic. U.S. troops must be out by Dec. 31, 2011 -- the weekend before the Iowa caucuses, which, because God is merciful, will arrive again only in the very fullness of time. Moreover, that date is not just distant but flexible. By treaty, it can be amended. If conditions on the ground warrant, it will be. True, the war is not over. As Gen. David Petraeus repeatedly insists, our (belated) successes in Iraq are still fragile. There has already been an uptick in terror bombings, which will undoubtedly continue as what's left of al-Qaeda, the Sadrist militias and the Iranian-controlled "special groups" try to disrupt January's provincial elections. The more long-term danger is that Iraq's reborn central government becomes too strong and, by military or parliamentary coup, the current democratic arrangements are dismantled by a renewed dictatorship that abrogates the alliance with the United States. Such disasters are possible. But if our drawdown is conducted with the same acumen as was the surge, not probable. A self-sustaining, democratic and pro-American Iraq is within our reach. It would have two hugely important effects in the region. First, it would constitute a major defeat for Tehran, the putative winner of the Iraq war, according to the smart set. Iran's client, Moqtada al-Sadr, still hiding in Iran, was visibly marginalized in parliament -- after being militarily humiliated in Basra and Baghdad by the new Iraqi security forces. Moreover, the major religious Shiite parties were the ones that negotiated, promoted and assured passage of the strategic alliance with the United States, against the most determined Iranian opposition. Second is the regional effect of the new political entity on display in Baghdad -- a flawed yet functioning democratic polity with unprecedented free speech, free elections and freely competing parliamentary factions. For this to happen in the most important Arab country besides Egypt can, over time (over generational time, the time scale of the war on terror), alter the evolution of Arab society. It constitutes our best hope for the kind of fundamental political-cultural change in the Arab sphere that alone will bring about the defeat of Islamic extremism. After all, newly sovereign Iraq is today more engaged in the fight against Arab radicalism than any country on earth, save the United States -- with which, mirabile dictu, it has now thrown in its lot. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/04/AR2008120402858.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

I just heard from Ali that if the Dong does rise this weekend that the following offices will be open for cash in. It will be the Bakersfield, Santa monica and Brentwood, California locations.

That's like asking the black jack dealer, if he's sure your going to win if you play that table.........what do you think he will say?.......yes......no ......or.....security needed at black jack table#6. You want assurance on your dinar investment through opinions and Rumors on this forum, it's not going to happen bro. Nobody has that intel, so instead you get filler, like possums posts and mongo's posts and agent 98's posts and everybody else. We don't know where, when and why with the dinar, we hope soon. How do you have REAL DIALOG WITH HEARSAY AND RUMORS?...................................Hmmmmmmm............................Anyone?

President Obama’s Memorial Day Vacation Posted May 26th, 2010 at 3:00pm in American Leadership with 154 commentsPrint This Post Print This Post This weekend, President Obama will skip Memorial Day services at Arlington National Cemetery, and instead he will take his family to Chicago for rest and relaxation. The gesture has rankled many on the right and caused the left to swing into full ‘defend Obama’ mode. However, the fact remains that during a time of war, it is extraordinary that the Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces would choose not to be at Arlington on this solemn occasion. First, it must be said that the president is not skipping out on his official duties entirely. At the start of the weekend, the president will travel to Louisiana to survey the response to oil spill; only his second trip to the region since the disaster over a month ago. And on Monday, the president will deliver remarks at the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery in Elwood, IL. In between these duties he will spend a “casual weekend with friends” and then fly home in time to make a White House tribute to Paul McCartney on Wednesday evening. So what’s the big deal? As leftist columnist David Corn writes: “[D]oes it matter if Obama throws some leaves on a tomb?” Well, apparently to liberals, it does not matter and to Corn, even wondering why the president would miss the occasion in itself dishonors lost soldiers. Seriously. Somehow, wanting the president to appropriately honor the troops who paid the ultimate price is chalked up as “political ammo.” The truth is that no president has missed the Arlington ceremony on Memorial Day since 1992. That year, former President Bush attended a ceremony in Maine while campaigning for re-election. In 1992 our nation was not at war. President Bush was himself a decorated war hero in World War II, risking life and limb to complete bombing missions in the Pacific and losing crewmates in the battles. His commitment to honoring his brothers-in-arms was never in doubt. So comparing 1992 to 2010 is not exactly an apples to apples debate. On the other hand, President Obama has demonstrated time and time again an unwillingness to fully support our troops whether through resources or through rhetoric. He gave a commencement address in 2008 with the theme of ’serving your country’ on that Memorial Day weekend, and did not mention serving in the military once. His proposed budgets reduce defense spending as a percentage of GDP to pre-9/11 levels. And this White House is uncomfortable even using the term ‘war on terror’ which is the cause that many of those who sacrificed their lives committed themselves to in the first place. This is not a president who is automatically viewed as a friend of the military, and he has reinforced this view himself, time and time again. In December 2009, the president traveled to West Point (what MSNBC’s Chris Matthew’s called the “enemy camp” that night) to address the ongoing wars and his strategic plans. He used the speech, which was broadcast to all bases overseas, to attack the premise of the Iraq War and his predecessor. He never used the words “win” or “victory” but talked of “conclusions.” And he highlighted his own sacrifice of reading and writing letters and reasserted the ridiculous notion that he was “repairing” relations with the Muslim world. This was not a morale boost for cadets that evening, or for the country. It did reinforce the idea that President Obama is a reluctant Commander in Chief, who would prefer focus on domestic government growth. It is speeches like these that make conservatives take pause when the president chooses golfing with friends over attending Arlington in a time of war to honor our fallen troops. To indifferent liberals, this solemn remembrance is merely throwing “leaves on a tomb” and this controversy is the manufactured delusions of “conservative wingnuts.” The Democratic Party’s sister organization ’Media Matters’ has been full throated in trying to turn this controversy around on the president’s detractors. But to veterans, and their families, regardless of political beliefs, this is a symbolic break in tradition that can only be viewed as casual indifference. Sending Vice President Biden, the man who told Brussels two weeks ago that it, not Washington, should hold the title of ‘capital of the free world’, in his place does not excuse his absence, and will likely give little comfort to those stricken families who expected to hear from their Commander in Chief. President Obama shouldn’t just be at Arlington on Memorial Day, he should want to be there. UPDATE: As Robert points out in the comments, we failed to point out that President George W. Bush also missed Arlington’s Memorial Day ceremonies in 2002, when he joined Veterans Affairs Secretary Anthony Principi, Secretary of State Colin Powell and a bipartisan congressional delegation for services at the American cemetery in Normandy, France, honoring those who paid the ultimate sacrifice on D-Day. Certainly an occasion that was warranted. You can read his remarks here. UPDATE 2: Many commenters have rightly pointed out that the president will attend services at Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery, as also mentioned above. It is true that the heroes laid to rest in this cemetery are equally deserving of presidential attention. However, is President Obama attending services here because of the honor of this particular location, or the geographical proximity to his other plans? The memorial at Arlington serves as a national celebration, which is why past presidents have made special efforts to attend, when possible. We appreciate your comments and debate. Thanks for reading. http://blog.heritage.org/2010/05/26/president-obamas-memorial-day-vacation/ Let me be the first to say I am glad I didn't vote for this schmuck.

SNIP I beg to differ with you on that statement. Adam has given some very useful and correct information both in the forum and in his book. He never has given a date or rate. He's given an opinion on the time frame he believes where this will happen and we're still in that time frame so far. The Dinar is a speculative venture, not an investment. Speculative ventures are not for everyone. If someone is really relying on this to pull them out of some kind of financial difficulty, they are in the wrong place. I would venture a guess that much of the frustration that is vented here is from folks in that situation or from folks who may have overextended themselves a bit with the dinar. Others just may not have the patience for speculating. It's been said before, this is a rumor area and shouldn't be considered as anything else. What do you do when you hear a rumor about something you're interested in? You check it out & verify for yourself. It may involve sifting through a lot of false leads but, that goes with the territory. Sonny1 and Adam have given everyone good advice on what information to listen to and what to ignore, It's up to us to do it. IMO, joining VIP & getting Adam's book was worth the price & has given me extra tools for post RV planning. Let's all hope that this speculation soon pans out for all of us here & for the Iraqi citizens.

Yeah I read back what I wrote and it did come across a little more harse than I thought. Again... I just want to know both sides of the argument, I have made the decision to invest a small amount of money in this, I just want to hear both sides to get a more informed idea. WHY does that make people upset. Fluff gets old man. This is America right, you can say what you want. You say it will 100% RV, I say lets take a deeper look to help people make more informed decsions before all this false hope is put out there. You guys are so protective it makes me worry a little.

If you really believe what you wrote, what does that say about you? Not only are you on a forum where you think you are getting played but you actually created an alter ego to make sure you could stay on it and not get banned.

Don't be angry with the folks on this site. I know you're probably frustrated - just like the rest of us. But your gamble has a much greater chance of winning than buying a lottery ticket - and you probably don't write hate mail to the lottery organisers. This is not an investment site. It's simply a good natured, fun-poking support site for fellow investors. And yes, often it may have really serious and good info. And when it does that's wonderful. I am genuinely saddened by your belief that anyone here might be able to give ACCURATE information. We're dealing with a foreign country which is just beginning to find its way with democracy, after having lived for generations under cruel and absolute dictatorships. This is made even worse by the very difficult task of translation of virtually every piece of news that's released, and this is combined with a gusto for their newly-found press freedom and ability to have a say on reporting any story - no matter how fragile its source. So please, don't get disheartened - stick with it, I'm sure you'll be glad you did. RAL - Australia

OK, how about you come up with some dialogue on why YOU think it won't happen. We will all be glad to educate you with our opinions of why it will happen. Secondly, this is a RUMOR section, if you don't like what people have to say in here, then stick to the news section. Thridly, as said above, there have been countless articles with information that has been dissected, and a ton of good info has come from it, take some time and search the forums for previous articles. Good Luck

Thanks for the post Lucy. It is sounding more promissing day by day. Looking like the late July to Aug. dates were correct. Keep up the good work Lucy. Gooooooo RV!!!!!!!

My understanding about the 2 day cash in with the dong simply meant that you would have 2 days to use dong money to buy more dinar if you chose to do so .... because the dinar supposedly would RV 2 days after the dong. I think that was the only point being made there. And while it is easy to get off on "How could this be .... the banks are closed on Monday for a holiday? .... see, he really is stupid ..." The point had nothing to do with really cashing in the dong but rather letting us know that there is a source out there that is saying the VND and the IQD have two days between their respective RV's. And for all those out there who think the world is going to RV their currencies and make their financial decisions based on our holidays and our banking hours, it might be good to develop a bit of a broader perspective. Memorial Day is not important to them. In fact, it is not even important to Obama. Take this for what it is ... a report from a "source" whose info has been as good as the next guy's.

Medic multiple chats: Dinar Speculator 5/27/10 May 28, 2010 · Posted in another site's Tidbits - CHATS / POSTS Here are a number of chats from Medic that took place throughout the day/night on Thursday 5/27/10 Med says to (16:25:05): I AM WATCHING A SNAIL ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW AND IT IS MOVING FASTER NOW THAT AMAZES ME MYSELF, DAYSTAR AND OTHERS HAVE POSTED SOME INCREDIBLE NEWS I SAID AND OTHERS AND PEOPLE AREN’T DISCUSSING IT I HAVE BEEN WATCHING FOR ABOUT 45 MINUTES HERE I HAVE BEEN ON FOR ABOUT 45 MINUTES JUST LURKING DID YOU DISCUSS THE UNSC ULTIMATUM THE UNSC GAVE IRAQ AN ULTIMATUM THEY SAID THAT BASICLY THE JUDICIARY MISINTERPRETED THE CONSTITUTION AND THAT IT IS NOT THE LARGEST BLOC YOU FORM AFTER YOU LOSE IT IS THE LARGEST ELECTION BLOC AND THEY SAID THAT IS ALLAWI AND THAT IF THEY DO NOT LET HIM FORM A GOVT THEN THEY WILL BE INTERNATIONALLY ISOLATED I POSTED THE ARTICLE AND THE US EMBASSY GAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT IT CAME FROM SUSAN RICE THAT THE U.S. RECOGNIZES ALLAWI AND THE IRAQI LIST AS THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE FORMING THE GOVT THE SADRISTS SAID THEY CANNOT BACK MALIKI FOR PM THAT HIS RECORD DOES NOT SUPPORT THEM BACKING HIM IT IS FULL OF CORRUPTION AND ISSUES THAT ARE NOT WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR IN A LEADER ALSO THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAS BEEN TOTALLY FORGOTTEN AND THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION COULD NOT EVEN PUT AN ADEQUATE POWER SUPPLY INTO THE COUNTRY IN 4 YEARS WE KNOW THAT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS 11 BILLION USD IS MISSING FROM THE BUDGET 11 BILLION NOT IQD BUT AMERICAN IT COST 3 BILLION TO PUT 56 TURBINES IN BY GE AND SIEMANS FOR COMPLETE POWER IN IRAQ ALSO THERE WAS ANOTHER ARTICLE ON MALIKI’S SALARY IN FACT TWO ONE STATING HE GETS 2 MIL USD A MONTH AND THEN THE RULE OF LAW SAID HIS PENSION IS ONLY 145K A YEAR WELL I DIDN’T KNOW HE WAS ON PENSION YET AND SINCE WHEN DO YOU GIVE A GUY A PENSION FOR 4 YEARS OF WORK I DON’T KNOW OF ANY COMPANY IN THE WORLD THAT DOES IT UNLESS YOU ARE IN THE MILITARY AND THEN DISABLED AND I LOVE THE PITY THREAD BY MALIKI THAT HE SURVIVED MANY ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS WELL THEN HE IS THE ONLY ONE IN IRAQ THAT HAS ON MALIKI AND HIS ASSASSINATION BS WHAT DID THEY USE SLING SHOTS CUZ THE SECURITY FORCES SO FAR HAVE NOT STOPPED ON ASSASSINATION YET GENERALS AND PMS AND CIVILIANS HAVE BEEN ASSASSINATED LEFT AND RIGHT IN IRAQ I THINK HE BETTER CHANGE HIS NAME TO “LUCKY” CUZ HE IS THE ONLY ONE AS I SAID WHO HAS LIVED FROM AN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT IN IRAQ IF YOU READ THE UNSC STATEMENT TO IRAQ IT IS BLUNT AND TO THE POINT IT IS ONE OF THE BEST YET I HAVE SEEN BESIDES THE EDITORIAL THAT WAS POSTED WHICH WAS THE BEST I HAVE EVER SEEN ON IRAQ MM17 COULDN’T HAVE DONE IT BETTER I JUST PUT A NEW SNIPER SCOPE ON MY AK AND I AM UP FOR PRACTICE I HAVE BEEN RUNNING OFF PICS OF MALIKI FOR TARGETS THE GUY HAS THE CRO MAGNON FORHEAD YOU CAN’T MISS IT PLUS IT SHINES OK ALL DONE I HAVE TO CALL MM17 Med says to (19:27:57): I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU A HINT ONW WHAT AN RV ENTAILS AND WHEN YOU WILL KNOW IT IS HERE OR COMING THERE ARE 3 KEYS TO AN RV 1) THE COUNTRY REMOVES EXCESS LIQUIDITY FROM CIRCULATION 2) SMALL DENOMS ARE STARTING TO BE SEEN IN CIRCULATION 3) FILS ARE IN CIRCULATION (COINS) THOSE ARE THE 3 SIGNS OF AN RV OR ONE COMING #1 IS DONE WE ARE WAITING FOR #2 AND #3 I TALKED TO LAN JUST A BIT AGO AND HE SAID THE REMOVAL OF OVER 20 TRILLION IQD WAS HUGE AND THAT IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THEM IMPLEMENTING THE REVALUATION OR REBASING HE SAID REMOVING THAT MUCH LIQUIDITY GREATLY INCREASES THE VALUE OF THE IQD OK THAT IS ALL I WISH TO SAY RIGHT NOW TY ALL DONE apolloo says to (23:37:59): where do you think the first best places to watch for small denoms might be? Med says to (23:38:09): IT WILL COME OUT OF IRAQ THE INFORMATION ON SMALL DENOMS I HAVE SOMEONE WORKING ON IT FOR ME ANOTHER FORMER GREEN BERET WITH TIES IN IRAQ HE IS HANDLING IT FOR ME AND LANACHY IS CONTACTING TBI FOR ME HE SAID HE WILL TRY TO HAVE AN ANSWER TOMORROW YOU CAN’T HAVE SMALL DENOMS WITHOUT FILS UNLESS EVERYTHING IN IRAQ IS 1 DINAR AND THAT CANNOT BE WHEN YOU TAKE PPP INTO CONSIDERATION DRKHRSE says to (23:40:06): Do you think if they release Smaller Denoms, we are on RV countdown? Med says to (23:40:22): I GAVE 3 STEPS TO AN RV THE FIRST HAS BEEN DONE ON MONDAY THE VERY IMPORTANT ONE AND THE MOST TIME CONSUMING THAT TWAS REDUCING THE LIQUIDITY THIS WAS A MAJOR MAJOR SIGN COINS ARE FILS THERE ARE NONE IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW THEY REMOVED THEM AND WERE SUPPOSE TO REINSTITUTE THEM THE PREVIOUS PARLIAMENT AT LEAST REALIZED THAT YOU CAN’T JUST HAVE PAPER MONEY SINCE NOONE ELSE IN THE WORLD DOES BUT NOONE ELSE IN THE WORLD DOES ANYTHING LIKE IRAQ DOES God’sgurl1 says to (23:42:37): Hey Med. Hey DS. Med, do you think the UN & US will have to remove Maliki or will he leave on his own? Med says to (23:42:45): #1 IS REMOVE LIQUIDITY HE WILL LEAVE ON HIS OWN THAT IS MY HONEST OPINION BUT IT WILL BE WITH A VOICE BEHIND IT THE UN AND U.S. HAD A CLOSED DOOR MEETING TODAY WITH MELKERT ON IRAQ WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT MELKERT SAID TO IRAQI RULE OF LAW WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE UNSC SAID TO THE IRAQI RULE OF LAW NOW THE US AMBASSADOR BACKPEDDLED SOME OR MAYBE SHE WAS JUST MISQUOTED BUT SHE NOW SAYS THAT SHE ONLY SAID TO SPEED THINGS UP BUT THE UNSC WAS PLAIN ENOUGH NOW THE RULE OF LAW IS COMPLAINING THAT THE UN IS CIRCUMVENTING THE LAW ON THE APPROVAL OF RESULTS THEY WANT THE MALIKI APPOINTED JUDICIARY TO MAKE THE DECISION ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THEY BETTER TREAD VERY LIGHTLY THE FUTURE OF CHAPTER VII AND BEING INTERNATIONALLY ISOLATED IS HANGING IN THE BALANCE WE HAVE SEEN THAT THE UN CAN PUT THEM ON SANCTIONS AND FORGET ABOUT IRAQ FOR ALMOST TWO DECADES ANOTHER TWO DECADES AND ALL THESE POWER CRAZY POLITICIANS IN IRAQ WILL BE DEAD AND THEY CAN START OVER WITH NEWLY EDUCATED PEOPLE WITH A BROADER FORM OF IDEAS AND THAT RESPECT AND HAVE A GENERAL CONCERN FOR THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE COUNTRY TODAY WAS AN EXCELLENT DAY OF ANALYSIS AND SYNOPSIS OF THE PAST, CURRENT AND ESCALATING SITUATION WITHIN IRAQ HOW LONG HAVE I BROUGHT UP NO WATER AND NO POWER?? TODAY FINALLY IT WAS ADDRESSED AS A SLAM AGAINST MALIKI God’sgurl1 says to (23:50:39): Med, if they ratify is Maliki automatically out? Med says to (23:50:51): NOW ONE THING THAT WAS DIFFICULT DURING THE IRAQI ELECTIONS IS THEY WERE ONLY LIKE 10 DAYS IN OUR ELECTIONS THERE IS SO MUCH TIME YOU CAN DIG AND SHOW EVERY DIRTY DETAIL OF A CANDIDATES LIFE AND WE ALL KNOW IT IS USED IN AMERICAN POLITICS NOW ISSUES THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO BE DISCUSSED BECAUSE OF TIME ARE COMING OUT ON MALIKI HE CONTINUES UNDER THE ILLUSION THAT THE IRAQI PEOPLE WANT TO CONTINUE ON THE POLICIES AND SUCCESSES HE HAS PUT IN PLAY GG SORRY NO HE IS NOT BUT HE IS OUT IF THEY RATIFY AND TALABANI CALLS TO CONVENE THE PARLIAMENT AND THE COALITION HAS NOT FORMERLY BECOME ONE ALLIANCE AND THEY MUST HAVE A CANDIDATE FOR PM WHEN THEY CONVENE ALSO THEY DON’T YOU CAN TELL THINGS ARE GOING BAD ON THE NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE RULE OF LAW AND THE IRAQI NATIONAL COALITION AND THE SADRISTS THIS IS WHY MALIKI HAS CONTINUED TO SHOVE APPEAL AFTER APPEAL HE IS PRAYING THAT THEY CAN GET SOME BREAK THROUGH ONE THING I WANT TO KNOW IS HOW EVERY SINGLE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT IN IRAQ HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL EXCEPT THE NOW MULTIPLE ONES AGAINST MALIKI THE POLICE AND SECURITY FORCES HAVE PROVEN THEY COULDN’T PROTECT A FLY IF IT WAS HIDDEN IN THEIR POCKET HE HAD ONE ATTEMPT WHICH WAS A FAMILY MEMBER AND IT FAILED NOW TODAY HE APOLOGIZED TO MULLAH FOR SAYING HE WAS GOING TO KILL HIM IF HE RETURNED TO IRAQ BEFORE HE DENIED IT HAPPENED SO ANOTHER LIE NOW HE SAYS IT WAS NOT HIM BUT HIS SECRETARY WHO MADE THE THREAT WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE THE GUY IS A CONTROL FREAK RIGHTTTTTT HE DIDN’T KNOW I FEEL LIKE I AM INVOLVED IN VOTING FOR THE BEST PET IN A KINDERGARTEN PET SHOW THIS ELECTION HAS THIS KIND OF COMICALNESS OK NOW THE 3 THINGS THAT SPAWN AN RV #1 REMOVE LIQUIDITY TO INCREASE THE VALUE OF YOUR FOREIGN CURRENCY ASSETS INSIDE THE CENTRAL BANK #2 SMALL DENOMS START TO SHOW UP IN IRAQ #3 FILS ARE OUT THE FIRST IF EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND IT IS DONE THE SECOND HAS BEEN REPORTED TO HAVE HAPPENED BUT WE ARE ASKING FOR CONFIRMATION AND HOPE TO HAVE EVIDENCE TOMORROW NO SIGN OF FILS brewbaby says to (00:02:42): Med, how long once small denoms and fils start showing up before we see an RV? Med says to (00:02:49): NO CLUE BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOON YOU GO FROM BAGS FULL OF MONEY TO VANS TO BUY PRODUCTS brewbaby says to (00:04:05): wouldn’t that cause speculation? HMMMM IT COULD AMONGST WEALTHY WHO HAVE JUST BEEN WATCHING brewbaby says to (00:04:05): They would have to stop the traders first, wouldn’t they? Med says to (00:04:06): BUT I BELIEVE AND HAVE HEARD IRAQI DINAR SALES ARE WAY DOWN NO UNTIL THEY GO ON THE OPEN MARKET THE TRADERS CAN SELL RIGHT NOW ALL THEY ARE SELLING IS MONOPOLY MONEY IT IS LIKE WE ARE BUYING SOUVINEERS FROM IRAQ THAT IS ALL IT HAS NO REAL MONETARY VALUE IT IS NOT TRADEABLE YOU LOSE OUT ON IT RIGHT NOW IF YOU SELL IT BACK OR EXCHANGE IT YOU CAN’T GET YOUR INVESTMENT BACK AT THE CURRENT BUYBACK BUT ONCE OFAC RECOGNIZES IT THEN YES ALL TRADERS MUST CEASE brewbaby says to (00:06:52): True, but sales are probably down due to the nonsense going on and people not thinking it is going to RV anytime soon. Med says to (00:07:06): SALES HAVE BEEN DOWN FOR MONTHS BEFORE ELECTIONS HONESTLY AND THIS IS ME TOO PEOPLE HAVE BECOME WEARY OF THE GAMES THIS COUNTRY PLAYS AND ARE NOW LIKE I AM JUST GOING TO SIT BACK AND WAIT pinballwizard says to (00:08:01): What are FILS if you dont mind me asking.Thers alot of abbreviations and I cant keep up with them all Med says to (00:08:10): FILS ARE COINS YOU MUST HAVE COINS THAT EQUAL TO 1 DINAR brewbaby says to (00:08:43): In my area here in Jax, FL I have heard that Regions and 5th 3rd have stopped selling Dinar for now. Med says to (00:08:52): NO CLUE MasterKim says to (00:08:56): If Talabani calls to convene parliament quickly after ratification, and not one coalition has a majority of seats or a named person to run for PM, what happens then? Med says to (00:09:11): MK THERE IS A MAJORITY NOW ALREADY AND HE HAS ALREADY NAMED IT YOU DON’T HAVE TO HAVE IT YOU ONLY NEED A SIMPLE MAJORITY MasterKim says to (00:09:59): ok. ty I thought you needed 163 I was confused. Med says to (00:10:13): THE 163 WAS A GUARANTEE OF BEING ABLE TO FORM A GOVT AND NOT LOBBBY MasterKim says to (00:10:42): So allawi with 91 has the simple majority then and he is eligible to run. Med says to (00:10:49): YES IT IS EXPLAINED MANY TIMES IN THE POLITICS ARTICLES POSTED THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS here med spraky: With the remove of liquidity do u have any clue what the rate could or may be be? Med says to (00:12:51): OH YES I HAVE SAID IT MANY TIMES HERE IN CHAT THE PROPSED RATE IS .83 ANYMORE ?

Can honestly say I have never heard the Top Gun / IQD analogies before but I like it!!!

All these responses so fast...Seriously? Do you not think that Iraq would not put out legislation a law and communicate that with their people before they would pull a LOP off? Where is the legislation/law/policy?????? they dont have debt...low inflation....so why will they LOP? Do you see the greed in the iraqi politicians? 80 billion dollars is their budget 74% of this goes to pay the salaries in the public sector...a guy who holds a seat in parliaments gets like 125,000 a year...Maliki pays himself 2mil a month.... MAN THATS IN DOLLARS! Do you think they want to cut their currency in half? Countries who LOP do it because they HAVE TO not because they want to..... IRAQ HAS NO REASON TO LOP! I dont know why I ventured into this forum....gheeze!!

There are no guarantees in life (except death and taxes). and there is always going to be a risk when making a speculative investment. Big picture is that if Iraq continues to flourish, sitting on their huge oil reserves, and the international community continues to want to invest and do business with them as a member of the global financial community, IMO they will have to bring their currency up from it's current undervalued state. So unless Iraq figures out a way to achieve that without including the foreign investors, then we would stand to benefit as the currency we hold will rise in value when the dinar's value goes up. How complicated and what would be the ramifications for trying to pull off a partial adjustment on a currency, or how complicated and what would be the ramifications for excluding from the revaluation those that are pouring millions and billions of investment dollars into the country? Would have to be a very good reason for any of that to happen and I don't think that Iraq has a good enough excuse to even try. After all, they are sitting on a Fort Knox of Black Gold, so it is hard to apply for welfare or to pretend they are broke or that they can't honor their currency. This investment has been and will probably continue to be a turbulent ride, so if possible let's fasten that seat belt and try to enjoy the ride, if any of your fellow passengers gets panicky starts yelling out "we are going to crash and we are all going to die" then just reach across the aisle and give em a good slap in the face.

Should have never came to this!!!

Thats right, everyone is completely ignorant except for you! Thanks for sharing!

Hallelujah!!!!!!!

davhina, I agree totally. Barbann, my hat's off to you for the polite way you always answer these yo-yos .

My grandfather served in the Navy, in the S Pacific, during WWII. Helped wire the communications on the USS Missouri, for the Japanese surrender. His brother in law(my great uncle)served in the Army and fought at the Battle of the Bulge. Two of my uncles served in Vietnam. I served in the USAF as an alert fighter crew chief during the cold war days under President Reagan. My son is now serving in the USMC. I am disgusted with this man we call our president. I did not vote for the schmuck either. God bless those that have made the ultimate sacrifice, as well as the families they left behind. I want to thank all our Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen, for all they do every day. Thank you all !!!!! I will digress before I post any inappropriate remarks. Dave Excellent post Woody. Thank you.

Being a 20 yr vet. I too am glad I didn't vote for him. Like they say if you can't say nothing nice about a person, say nothing at all. GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS. May they come home safe and the fallen rest in peace. Amen.

Sounding better.

He does not care about this country or the fallen soldiers who died defending our freedoms. He does not care about the soldiers in Afganistan who are in need of support he is holding up. He does not care about the constitution of this country or what it means as he and Palosi look for new ways to twist it everyday. He does not want to say enforce our immigration laws because he and some family members and friends may be in violation. An enormous mistake has been made and I hope that 2012 is not to late to correct it. It is unreal we have let this happen. Pray hard and hope for the best. God Bless The USA.

Sadly enough to say, but It would be a disgrace to my father, who is buried in the the vets cemetery, my family and myself if obama showed up at the Memorial day services where my dad was Master of Ceremony. My dad TRULY MEANT EVERYTHING he said in his speeches. No offense to anyone, this is my personal feeling and not worth an argument. God Bless America! Carla

Special Report - Between Iraq and a rich place Thu 27 May, 2010 07:08 By Nick Carey and Aseel Kami BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The first hint that Christopher "Kiffer" Andress is not just your average CEO is the 9mm automatic pistol at his right hip. "Regardless of the situation today, our security measures haven't changed since 2007 at the height of the violence here," said the head of AISG Inc on a tour of the firm's yard in Baghdad where Iraqi workers were turning abandoned cargo containers into temporary housing units and storage rooms. He looked down at the gun for a moment then grinned. "So far, I've never had a reason to use it." Andress is accompanied by two bodyguards who both also carry pistols and always keep the CEO a set distance between them, eyes constantly on the move. Some things haven't changed for AISG, a U.S. contractor based in Iraq for the past six years. But much like Iraq, the company faces a major transition. AISG has 500 employees, 80 percent of them Iraqis. The company provides construction, security and "life support" services -- food, water, waste management -- to a single employer: the U.S. military. But seven years after the U.S.-led invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, the U.S. military is on the verge of halving its numbers to 50,000 troops and preparing to leave Iraq -- where sectarian violence has abated but daily attacks and bombings are still a fact of life -- by the end of 2011. For AISG, which has its headquarters in Baghdad, and other firms like it employing 100,000 contractors here, that means looking for a new source of revenue. "For those contractors that have survived this far, the choice is clear," Andress said. "Either find a commercial line of business, or leave." Like Iraq, AISG is betting on the oil industry. The country has the world's third-largest known reserves and the current government has signed 11 ambitious oilfield development deals with major oil firms including Royal Dutch Shell, Italy's Eni, Exxon Mobil, Occidental Petroleum Corp and South Korea's KOGAS. In theory, those deals should take Iraq to second place among oil producing nations from 11th now and boost its capacity within seven years to just under Saudi Arabian levels of 12 million barrels per day from 2.5 million today. Whether Iraq could or should make that target, however, is an open question -- such a volume of oil could push prices down. What is not in doubt is a huge production boost is in the pipeline. "Most people, myself included, think the Iraq targets are very optimistic and some would argue that they are over-optimistic," said Samuel Ciszuk, an energy analyst at IHS Global Insight. "But unless things go very wrong in Iraq, it's going to be huge. "There's just no other way to say it: it's huge." RISING PROFILE The oil majors and their service companies are here or on their way, preparing vast projects to revamp Iraq's crumbling oilfield infrastructure and export facilities, plus build new capacity. For AISG, this means new business. It is already working with oil industry firms to get them registered in Iraq and aims to provide the same services as it has for the U.S. military because Iraq is still a dangerous place. "These companies want to know 'How do we execute these contracts without having to look over our shoulder?'" he said. "That's where we come in." The oil deals have also grabbed the attention of other investors because they could be the trigger needed for broader investment throughout the economy. "The oil deals really raised the profile of Iraq in the international business community," said Zaab Sethna, head of the Baghdad office of investment firm Northern Gulf Partners LLC. "When people see major household names sign huge deals to invest in Iraq, it really puts the country on the investment map." That interest, Sethna says, reflects the fact that after decades of war and sanctions, Iraq "needs practically everything". That could mean hundreds of billions of dollars in infrastructure projects. "The country is impoverished, but it has the potential to be rich." According to a November 2009 report from Dunia Frontier Consultants, after the energy sector more than 50 percent of nearly $160 billion in announced foreign investment projects last year involved commercial and residential real estate, plus "manufacturing, processing, service-sector and other productive infrastructure". Most of that investment remains in the pipeline -- hoped for rather than real -- but the time for investors to take the plunge may be close. Northern Gulf Partners looks for viable Iraqi investments of between $10 million (6.9 million pounds) and $30 million and helps Iraqi firms raise private equity for amounts above that. Where there is no local company providing a particular service, the firm sets up its own. Sethna said a heavy equipment leasing firm is in the works to provide machinery for the construction projects that lie ahead. In the short term, some investors are watching to see how Iraq's inconclusive March elections are resolved and whether the Iraqis can form a new government without a return to the wholesale sectarian violence that followed elections in December 2005. RESOURCE CROSSROADS Beyond the elections, the promise of oil money is also seen placing Iraq at a crucial crossroads -- where it must choose between remaining a centrally planned economy that uses oil wealth alone to provide jobs and homes for Iraqis, or use it to fund public private partnerships and help kick-start free-market reforms. Analysts say Iraq must diversify because its population is too large to be supported by oil money alone, making it dangerously reliant on high oil prices. Another problem is that the oil industry employs relatively few people. Although oil contributed around 56 percent of Iraq's gross domestic product in 2008, it employed only one percent of workers. "Even though oil will generate a lot of revenue, it's not going to generate a lot of employment," said a U.S. official who was not authorized to speak to the media. But becoming a free-market economy involves painful choices. To succeed, the next Iraqi government must reform a labyrinthine bureaucracy, simplify red tape that makes it hard for investors to do business here, plus battle endemic corruption. The Iraqis have found it relatively easy to dictate tough terms to the oil majors because the country's vast, high-quality and easily accessible reserves make it a rare and attractive prospect, but attracting investment beyond oil will take a lot of work. The next government also faces a politically sensitive problem posed by some 200 state-owned enterprises that produce little but employ 800,000 people. Officials like Sami al-Araji, chairman of Iraq's National Investment Commission, insist while it will not be easy, the government is committed to reform. "Everyone (in the government) wants to use oil to create a diversified economy," he said, adding, "not just a one-way- ticket economy." But this needs to be done quickly because U.S. officials and others fear once oil money, which accounts for 95 percent of state revenues here, really starts to flow the Iraqi government will find it easier to rely on that wealth than enact reform. "The choice is whether to become a petrostate or to open up the economy," said Patricia Haslach, the U.S. embassy's assistant chief of mission for assistance transition. "There is a small window of opportunity available to make this happen. Now is the time to focus on these issues." 'THE ONLY WAY IS UP' After decades of war and sanctions, Iraq is a mess. The country's infrastructure is damaged or crumbling. Seven years after the U.S.-led invasion, basic services like electricity and water are intermittent and inadequate. Iraq badly needs new roads, bridges, hospitals, schools, railways and much else besides. "This is a country that needs an awful lot of work done to it," said Gavin Jones, a partner at Upper Quartile, which advises firms on investing in Iraq. "Iraq has a very long way to go." The people here have also suffered. In an April 30 quarterly report to the U.S. Congress, the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR) estimated some 7 million Iraqis live on less than $2 a day. The national unemployment rate is around 18 percent, but Mudher Kasim, a senior adviser at the Iraqi central bank, said including those employed at idle state-owned companies the real rate is 30 percent or more. The good news is the situation here has improved since the height two years ago of sectarian bloodshed between once dominant Sunnis and majority Shi'ites propelled into power by the invasion. According to the SIGIR April 30 report, security incidents in Iraq including all reported attacks on civilians and Iraqi or U.S. forces hit an average of 884 per month in the first quarter, compared with almost 5,800 incidents per month in 2007. "Back then, you wondered if you'd get through the day," said Loay Almaleika, CEO of internet service and phone company Itisaluna. "But we have passed rock bottom. The only way now is up." Backed by Middle Eastern investors, Itisaluna has spent $150 million to build its network and is close to breakeven point three years into the 15-year contract it purchased from the Iraqi government to provide data and voice services. The work has been tough, but Almaleika said much of the company's success has been down to its tenacious, informally trained engineers. "Our engineers know how to work without electricity," he said. "They know how to work under fire. They are capable of being Shi'ites when they need to be, or Sunnis or even Christians." "It's amazing what they can achieve." AN ECONOMIC GOVERNMENT Despite continuing attacks by insurgents, the improved security situation has left Iraqis longing for better services and economic growth. "If there were a good standard of living here, I wouldn't have to work outside my full-time job," said Hassan Abbas, 37, a school teacher who sells fruit on the street in Baghdad to supplement his income. "My salary is not enough and I have a family of four to support." Abu Salah al-Rubaie, 60, bemoaned the fact that many Iraqis have been left destitute. "We want the government to improve the quality of life here by improving services," he said. "We want them to find work for our jobless sons." Security specialists like Rohan Gunaratna, professor at the International Centre for Political Violence and Research in Singapore, note a marked mood shift among war-weary Iraqis as the security situation has stabilized and the Americans get ready to leave by the end-2011 deadline. "The Iraqi people are angry with the insurgents and they want peace and prosperity," Gunaratna said. "They also now realise the Americans didn't come here to stay or to take their oil, so they have a vested interest in making Iraq work." Polls ahead of the March election showed Iraqis want improved basic services and jobs. This was reflected in a shift in tone for the elections, with political parties promising to deliver just that. "The next government will be an economic government, not a political one," the central bank's Kasim said. "The Iraqi people are fed up with politics." LULL IN INTEREST But there's no getting away from either politics or oil. Iraq's massive reserves will play a key role for the next government and for luring foreign investors to Iraq. According to the November report by Dunia Frontier Consultants, investors announced $156.7 billion worth of projects in Iraq in 2009 through to November -- with the caveat that not all of those will necessarily come to fruition. Energy sector projects alone accounted for $73 billion of that total. Those deals have fuelled interest in Iraq, but the post-election mess has led some investors to pause. The cross-sectarian Iraqiya coalition, heavily supported by Sunni voters and led by former prime minister Iyad Allawi, took 91 seats in Iraq's 325-seat parliament in the March 7 election, just two ahead of the Shi'ite-led State of Law alliance of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki. Neither had enough seats to form a government on their own. That has resulted in weeks of uncertainty, interspersed by bomb attacks such as the ones that killed 56 people near Shi'ite mosques in Baghdad on April 23 and attacks across the country on May 10 that killed more than 100. These have raised the spectre of renewed sectarian tensions. "There has been a little bit of a lull in interest because of the elections and uncertainty over who will form the next government," said David Tafuri, a lawyer at Patton Boggs LLP, who spent 15 months from mid-2006 in Iraq as the U.S. State Department's rule of law coordinator. "Once the government is formed we should see interest go up again." Some government officials, like the National Investment Commission's Araji, have been vocal about the need to court foreign investors. But one of the main problems and an obstacle to greater investment here is corruption. According to anti-corruption watchdog Transparency International's 2009 Corruption Perceptions Index, Iraq ranked 176th out of 180 countries, ahead of only Sudan, Myanmar, Afghanistan and Somalia. Nonetheless, analysts say the government has made some progress, including holding auctions for oilfield service deals on live television. "I was struck by how open the process was," said Rachel Ziemba, senior research analyst for China and the oil exporting economies at Roubini Global Economics in New York. "But in the current global economic climate there is a lot of competition for investment, so Iraq has to present itself as more of a sure thing than a gamble." Another issue investors complain of is the sheer volume of red tape they must wade through at multiple ministries to start a business. Each official interprets the rules differently. "We call this phenomenon the shifting sands of Baghdad," AISG's Andress said. The World Bank's Doing Business 2010 report ranks Iraq 153rd overall out of 183 countries, but 175th when it comes to starting a business. According to the report, it takes 77 days to start a business in Iraq compared with an average of 13 days among the member countries of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development. Araji says the government is trying to create a "one-stop shop" whereby all procedures for setting up in Iraq will be under one office. But he said the country's massive centrally planned bureaucracy -- with its myriad different offices -- was slowing that process down. "It is not easy to penetrate that centrally guided way of thinking," he said. "Some bureaucrats live in their own world and don't want to give up their power. "It's not that anyone is against free-market reforms, everyone is in favour of them in theory," Araji added. "But making it a reality and making everyone understand what the free market is will take some time." Kamal Field al-Basri, an economist who compiled the Iraqi section of the World Bank's Doing Business 2010 report, said a lack of qualified personnel at government ministries is also a major problem. According to a study he compiled, in 2008 Iraq government ministries only used 68 percent of the funds allocated to them. "The problem is that while they have the money, they are not able to execute," he said. Basri also warned of what he called "muhasaseh" once the next government is formed -- whereby new ministers will replace skilled technocrats with their own loyalists. "That will contribute to the low performance of the next government," he said. PRODUCTION SHARING Most Gulf Arab producers are on a long drive to diversification and have used the oil income windfall they received during oil's 2002-8 rally to build infrastructure and heavy industry as they look to wean themselves off dependence on oil revenues. Oil price falls in the past have forced them to cut state spending, which provides generous benefits for citizens. Many of Iraq's near neighbours such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have a mixture of free-market and state-planned economies, with the private sector confined to services and smaller industries and the state running oil, gas and heavy industry. In Iraq's case, for decades oil was used to prop up the rest of the economy. As it currently provides nearly all state revenue and the state employs some 60 percent of the workforce, some fear the government will stick to that easy path. Countries that have become too dependent on oil have suffered for it. Russia, for instance, has become too reliant on oil and other commodities, while Nigeria's failure to use its oil wealth wisely has resulted in intense poverty in its oil-producing delta. Roubini's Ziemba said Iraq's large population of some 29 million is simply too big to be able to rely on oil in the long run. "Government subsidies are not really sustainable in the long run because to make that model work you need ever-increasing oil prices and ever increasing production," she said. "The oil buys the Iraqi government a little time as it has allowed them to avoid having to cut back on fiscal spending, but it won't support them forever." While U.S. officials say that using oil revenues to create a free-market, diversified economy is what Iraq needs, it is also a matter for a sovereign Iraq to make that call. "It's not like in the days of the Coalition Provisional Authority (in 2003-4) where we could tell the Iraqis to fix this, or fix that," said the U.S. embassy's Haslach. "Now we have to persuade them that something is in their own best interest. "It's really up to the Iraqi government." "It's their oil and their resource." Araji and other reformers talk of using oil to prime the pump through public private partnerships that would entice foreign investors into Iraq to help rebuild the country. He says he has a wish list of 750 infrastructure projects worth $600 billion -- most but not all of which are included in a five-year economic plan approved by the government -- which would include power generation, roads, bridges, hospitals, water treatment and housing. "How many projects we will get will depend on how clever and how open we are," he said. The National Investment Commission's plan for the roughly 200 dilapidated state-owned enterprises will be based on "production sharing". Under this model these firms will not be sold but investors will be asked to restructure and operate them, then share the profits with the government. France's Lafarge, the world's largest cement maker, recently launched a $200 million renovation of an Iraqi cement plant under just such an arrangement, potentially a watershed for non-oil investment in post-invasion Iraq. "I think the majority of our state-owned enterprises can be salvaged in this way," Araji said. Ingo Sahlmann, CEO of construction company GSI Business Services and vice president of the International Business Council of Iraq, said that based on the experiences of eastern Europe following the fall of communism, many of those companies are beyond saving. "But because they employ 800,000 people it's too politically sensitive just to shut some of them down," he said. "So the government will try to find a way to save as many jobs as possible and hope the construction boom will provide work for the others." Timothy Moore is the CEO of FastIraq, which is working to connect Iraq's fibre-optic network to the rest of the world and thus improve its communications and internet access. The network is owned by the government and FastIraq has already secured connections through Turkey and Kuwait, plus will connect via Jordan by the fall and via a submarine cable by the end of the year. Moore says that negotiating a deal with the Iraqi government was a "painfully slow process" and involved the state retaining ownership of the fibre-optic network. "It took a long time, but it's the Iraqi government's resource and the model works," he said. "The government is working out these things as it goes and is taking its time to try to get it right. It's worth sticking around to see that happen." "Iraq is the world's leading emerging market right now," Moore added. "If you can't get excited about that then you don't understand what you're looking at." (Additional reporting by Simon Webb, Khalid al-Ansary and Michael Christie; editing by Janet McBride) http://www.iii.co.uk/news/?type=reutersnews&articleid=TRE64Q1G1&feed=Bus&action=article

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