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[Adam Montana] Mr Montana is actually in Wisconsin [Adam Montana] evening everyone [firecarl] waz up ,french fry skillet ? [jerry] Adam Montana hey [Traconesu02] hi adam [gwright] Hello ADAM... [GJM] Adam Montana Good Evening! [Adam Montana] ok I know some of you [Adam Montana] not tomorrow either in my best guess [Adam Montana] so if you have to go, don't hang around for an RV breaking news bulletin [Adam Montana] I had hoped to do a conference call tonight [Adam Montana] You can see the post here: http://dinarspeculation.com [Adam Montana] I know I got about 3000 RSS subscribers that responded [Adam Montana] please don't take it personal that I didn't respond to all of them, [Adam Montana] (FYI I don’t care where this chat ends up, as long as you are nice enough to leave a link to this site. Here’s a nice short url: http://tinyurl.com/34g7why) [Adam Montana] Ok - any of you that have been around long enough to remember the start of this site [Adam Montana] you remember that we crashed the server [Adam Montana] bloew up the hostgator box, actually [Adam Montana] (they tried to charge me for a melted connection of some sort lol) [Adam Montana] I told them to take a hike [Adam Montana] anyway [Adam Montana] thank you all for your long time support - those of you since that time know that I've never made date predictions [Adam Montana] until recently [Adam Montana] I started leanign towards [Adam Montana] a June or mid summer RV [Adam Montana] I started saying this before the elections [Adam Montana] I'm not one of those dingbats that spouts out a $3 RV every Tuesday [Adam Montana] and you all know that [Adam Montana] I'm still holding strong on my mid summer RV [Adam Montana] I really like the middle of June for a couple of reasons [Adam Montana] the main reason is this - when I began to formulate this, I brought it to a few people [Adam Montana] my bud in the CBI, a very well known US finance guy [Adam Montana] he does guest speaking at MAJOR events, charges $150k a night at some of them [Adam Montana] the guy knows his stuff [Adam Montana] we all agreed a long time ago that the elections woudn't be "over" like everyone hoped [Adam Montana] and we wouldn't see a quick end to all this [Adam Montana] when everyone was saying "SUNDAY AT $3!!!!" I was advising to just chill out [Adam Montana] well... I'm even more confident now [Adam Montana] because everything that we discussed [Adam Montana] everything that we thought could happen, and the approximate time it would take to finalize [Adam Montana] is coming in right on time [Adam Montana] RIGHT on time [Adam Montana] so right now is not the time to start pawning grandmas necklace [Adam Montana] because we rteally don't know [Adam Montana] but now IS the time to start making realistic long term plans [Adam Montana] look at your inventory and make a REALISTIC plan on a couple of lines: [Adam Montana] 1: RV at a penny, RV at a dime, RV at a dolloar [Adam Montana] also look at who you are putting your faith in.... there are a lot of shysters out there [Adam Montana] a lot of people starting brand new sites and introducing people that have brand new ideas and want NOTHING more than to get their hands on your cash [Adam Montana] page [Adam Montana] hang on.. [Adam Montana] page 28 in my book at http://rvintel.com lists some VERY good stuff on how to go from here [Adam Montana] whether you see me or this site again after the RV [Adam Montana] be smart [Adam Montana] because it's coming, and the only thing that is going to change is how you end up in a year or two after you cash in [Adam Montana] you can be one of those unprepared dummies [Adam Montana] or one of those that trusted Johnny newcomer with a website that popped up out of nowhere [Adam Montana] or one of thsoe - and I know some of you are in here [Adam Montana] that trusted someone with a down payment for a "list" and got screwed [Adam Montana] or you can be smart [Adam Montana] ok [Adam Montana] enough of that, you're all grown and can handle yourself [Adam Montana] this Tuesday we're doing a free conference call [Adam Montana] this is a LOT of warning [Adam Montana] and it's free [Adam Montana] so we're going to see if we can Daisy-chain a few [Adam Montana] last time we toppled the phone lines when we hit 1500 [Adam Montana] nothing we could do about it [Adam Montana] they just BOOM crashed [Adam Montana] I'll send out an email on Tuesday about mid day [Adam Montana] I'll break it up into 4 groups [Adam Montana] each group will get a different number to call [Adam Montana] that way we can get as many of the 16,000 newsletter members on as possible [Adam Montana] VIP members, we're doing a VIP only call on Thursday night [Adam Montana] RV4Me333 just said "People need more notice" [Adam Montana] I'm sorry, but it's not possible' [Adam Montana] we don't have the means to support a 5000 person call [Adam Montana] so if you want to be on it [Adam Montana] plan on checking your email about 7PM on Tuesday [Adam Montana] and then just call in [Adam Montana] no time for Q's tonight [Adam Montana] but I'll be taking them on the call on Saturday [Adam Montana] I find that a much more effective way to communicate [Adam Montana] plan on having a pen and paper handy on Tuesday [Adam Montana] you're going to want to take some notes [Adam Montana] (and you can leave your wallet in the drawer, we're not selling you anything lol) [Adam Montana] ok so anyway, I'm beat - I switched from Body for Life to p90x [Adam Montana] my arms are RUBBER. That Tony Horton is a sick sick man [Adam Montana] Part 2 [Adam Montana] (my wife wanted to start p90x and insisted I join her) [davhina] thank you Mr. Adam we appreciate your hard work and info [Adam Montana] so more chance of getting on [Adam Montana] Seniortour let me clarify the VIP thing [Adam Montana] actually let me do that for everyone [Adam Montana] I've put down a significant amount of money for POST RV attorneys fees [[Adam Montana] these people are set to help all of us [Adam Montana] but I've made sure each VIP member gets at least an hour or two of personal assistance and guidance [Adam Montana] PLUS [Adam Montana] and this is the biggest part [Adam Montana] I have contacts in a few places in Iraq, that came from my networking [Adam Montana] most of you don' [Adam Montana] t know this [seniortour] I mean roi ! [jerry] Sunglass tks glasses [sunglass] room slow pls [davhina] shhh [Adam Montana] but I am an entrepeneur, basically retired from the profits I made as a professional headhunter [Adam Montana] networking is my specialty [Adam Montana] anyhow, I have some POST RV investments lined up in Iraq [Adam Montana] if you think the RV is going to make you some cash - investing in Iraq is going to make your dinar look like a $100 lottery winner [FloridaChick] Yes... [Adam Montana] I'll be going into more detail son [Adam Montana] soon* [Adam Montana] but the bottom line is the currency is the tip of the iceberg [Adam Montana] and the VIP members are getting access to the hidden potential [jerry] Adam Montana i gota cloose friend whose a x head hunter from ga? [Adam Montana] VIP closes immediately upon RV announcement though [Adam Montana] I'm doing this for the people that support this site [Adam Montana] and the VIP member fees do that [Adam Montana] it's not cheap to run this place [Adam Montana] and I put a lot of time into it [seniortour] As a VIP member, are they safe? [Adam Montana] so if you don't support the site now, I'm not supporting you as a VIP after the RV [Adam Montana] Seniortour please post your questions in VIP, I can direct you to the right place [Adam Montana] ok [Adam Montana] that's it for VIP, I'm not here to pump VIP or anything [Adam Montana] we have enough VIPs, I'm not trying to get more [Adam Montana] but there IS a benefit [Adam Montana] that's all on that [Adam Montana] listen [Adam Montana] Tuesday [Adam Montana] get your questions ready [Adam Montana] in fact [Adam Montana] if someone would start a thread in the forum [kjwayne] I am VIP and I approve THAT message! [Adam Montana] and then work on organizing the most frequently asked questions [Adam Montana] hopefully thatare NOT in the book [Adam Montana] thank you for the support [FloridaChick] Yay! Sounds amazing [Adam Montana] you know [Adam Montana] it's not me that makes this place the best Dinar site on the net [Ana214ej] Thanks Again, Adam! [Adam Montana] it's the members [Adam Montana] you guys are amazing [Adam Montana] thank you all [Adam Montana] THE best on the net according to [Adam Montana] the most visited as well [Adam Montana] if you put the whole RV Intel network (dinarspeculation.com, dinarvets, rvintel.com) together - it's hands down no question the largest [Adam Montana] Randy click the contact button at the bottom, let me know what you want [markisuncfan] Hey everyone. I came in during the chat....anyone copied it and gonna post it? [Adam Montana] I'm a little picky [puffsplus] markisuncfan some of it is already posted, Im editing the converstional part now [markisuncfan] puffsplus sweet.... TY [sunglass] puffffssssssssssssssssss you go puffsssssssssssssssssss [Adam Montana] oh! [LazySusan] markisuncfan hey hey! [gwright] Where the heck is snickerz? [sunglass] suffering sucatash!!! [Adam Montana] and when you all see what's coming soon for everyone... WHEW! Is it gonna get NUTS around here! [markisuncfan] Adam Montana you forgot Puffs' yeller dress [Adam Montana] hope you're all ready [Adam Montana] I like Puffs in Pink, but I can't figure out how to do it. [Adam Montana] no I'm iidding, she's on mjy to-do list [Adam Montana] I mean [Adam Montana] not HER [puffsplus] Adam Montana grumpy says pink isnt available [Adam Montana] but [Adam Montana] nevermind [Adam Montana] audrey williams please be patient, wait till Thursday - you'll like it [Adam Montana] I'm bringing out something for the people who don't have a lot to invest [Adam Montana] and this should make people money even BEFORE the RV [Adam Montana] good stuff, you'll see [Adam Montana] I'm excited, I'm not going to hide it [Adam Montana] so if you don't see me in here a lot in the VERY near future [Adam Montana] I'm not gone [Adam Montana] just working like a beaver [Adam Montana] [FloridaChick] [Adam Montana] ok thanks everyone [Adam Montana] http://tinyurl.com/34g7why [Adam Montana] there's another link to the chat [Adam Montana] thank you all Puffsplus is to be credited with posting Part 2 of this Chat by Adam. Thanks Puffs

“Boots-on-the-Ground” Info Found From An Outside Source 5/8/10 May 8, 2010 · I see a great deal here and I too am here on the ground in Iraq but I would like to say first of all that while I do speak with the locals, (LN) for short, I rely little on what is told me by them.As some of you have seen I posted a statement on this site a little while ago and was met with very kind words, that I do appreciate. One thing that I do see regularly here is a lot of hype and what I would like to say is what I see and what I hear and feel. First of all I arrived here in 2004 at a time that this country was dead. It was in a totally shattered state. When we would leave the wire fire fights were common to the point of two to three per time spent outside the wire was the norm and not the exception. Roads were almost completely non-existant, people were begging for simple things, for instance water and MRE (Meals Ready to Eat). As time continued things began to improve, for example vehicles began to appear more and more but all was still very bad as a whole. By mid 2005 roads began to become more common but attacks were common as well. Things have gotten better as time goes on and I am sure most of you have little interest in the progression of time here. What most are concerned with here are the standards and what do they mean now. In answer to that concern here is the answer. I travel greatly through central and southern Iraq by air mostly and some convoy as well and see things as they are. Towns and villages are springing up all over within the last three years. I have watched a strong farming culture developing, with vehicle traffic becomming more and more regular with some rather nice vehicles such as Mercades and Volvo cars present. Satalite TV systems are common place items on homes and black-outs have become more and more rare with the passing of time. Banks are opening on the different military bases and local businesses are moving onto those bases as well. On the base that I work we have Oriental, Mediterian and Itialian resturants opening all owned by the local economy which is not bad as I would have thought at first. Shopping malls are being built along with a strong tourism base realitive to what one would expect of a redeveloping country. Finally a financial base is building which is gaining strength. What you are no doubt hearing the dollar is not being used within Iraq so how are they paying for all of this progress….. That is a great question and one that I personally do not have the answer other than to say in the beginning the dollar was the standard and was for a long time but not now. I have not seen any other, and I do mean any other, form of currency being used through the time that I arrived until now but the dollar and the dinar. Make no question, this country is coming to life and becoming stronger by the minute. what will happen in the future I have no idea but there is no comparision from when I got here and now other than to say night and day. I hope that this helps answer questions you may have.

[*dont promote other sites*] men we are hearing alot of unbelieveable reports [*dont promote other sites*] first the recount is done [*dont promote other sites*] officially on sunday [EURTICE] dont promote other sites hello how ru [Outlawdave] Hey everybody [magic] Outlawdave hi [ART] *dont promote other sites* great reports [tenmillion] Outlawdave hello! [Outlawdave] magic hello little buddy [*dont promote other sites*] then today it was asked and approved to the high court to certify the election on the other 17 provinces outsitde of Baghdad [Outlawdave] tenmillion hello kiddo [*dont promote other sites*] so on monday they only have to certify Baghdad [*dont promote other sites*] Chapter 7 released? [Outlawdave] *dont promote other sites* hey boss good news [*dont promote other sites*] Rv is just around the corner guys [*dont promote other sites*] the election is done done done tomorrow [magic] *dont promote other sites* i felt it!!!! [magic] tenmillion did too [tenmillion] magic [ART] *dont promote other sites* vote count canceled?? [*dont promote other sites*] I have heairng that it is done as of tommorrow [*dont promote other sites*] so cancled or not it has been announced that the completion of the baghdad will be done by tommorrow mornign when we wake up [*dont promote other sites*] so that means no more recount [*dont promote other sites*] all parties are outside the window of requesting further recounts [magic] great [*dont promote other sites*] the number tomorrow is how it will stand period [*dont promote other sites*] so no we have the wrangling of the PM [*dont promote other sites*] who will it be [*dont promote other sites*] well I will tell you we will find our answer very shortly afte the certificaion of the EL *dont promote other sites*] well I will tell you we will find our answer very shortly afte the certificaion of the EL [magic] ghost should be copying it [groop] dont promote other sites, I read somewhere that the recount will not change a thing…true? [*dont promote other sites*] IMO I will be counting on a government seated by WED next week or at least an announcement before then as confirmation [magic] Outlawdave magic is in training [*dont promote other sites*] the seating of the PM will be very soon [*dont promote other sites*] all the other members of Parliment have been in line ready to go, so they can bee seated immedialty [*dont promote other sites*] the biggest news I can say is this; xxxxxxxxxx [*dont promote other sites*] Court asks for federal election results 17 provinces for approval [*dont promote other sites*] by doing that the are movign the time window UP [*dont promote other sites*] a quote in this article very important [*dont promote other sites*] The presidency council called on 4 of the May Commission, to submit lists of winners in the governorates, except Baghdad, to the Federal Supreme Court to validate these results to exploit the time and to avoid the constitutional vacuum. [*dont promote other sites*] they want this done NOW [*dont promote other sites*] and once done the eleciton is completly certifiedd other than the Baghdad province [*dont promote other sites*] which will be ready to sign of as early as tonight our time, or Monday [*dont promote other sites*] you guys, we will have a certified election by monday [*dont promote other sites*] this is huge movement [*dont promote other sites*] between now and that time, the PM will have to be selected [*dont promote other sites*] because they have RUN out of time [*dont promote other sites*] no more delays to wait and haggle [*dont promote other sites*] once the certifficaiton is in place its over [*dont promote other sites*] and the parties in negotiations know it [*dont promote other sites*] they have to have a PM [*dont promote other sites*] I would say these guys will be up 24 hours a day workign on this [*dont promote other sites*] until its done [*dont promote other sites*] we know that M has made some rich concessions to the other parties to join him, but sadar just still does not like M [*dont promote other sites*] I think A will have to get agreesive and move this over the top [*dont promote other sites*] in any event we dont have weeks any more [*dont promote other sites*] we have just days [*dont promote other sites*] the new today was so overwhelming its crazy [*dont promote other sites*] so much information [*dont promote other sites*] rememeber the recount was to take 3 weeks? [*dont promote other sites*] well it has now been 4 days [*dont promote other sites*] let me ask you this WHEN has Iraq EVER moved that fast? [*dont promote other sites*] on anything? [*dont promote other sites*] they historically are slower than a snail [*dont promote other sites*] they have international pressure to get this over with [*dont promote other sites*] even the religous leaders are demanding an end to all of this [*dont promote other sites*] so all you are hearing of an RV tonight is Bs [*dont promote other sites*] the PM needs to be seated [*dont promote other sites*] the IMF will not release the RV with no government in place [*dont promote other sites*] howeve the PM will be in his seat in just days so hang in there I think this is our week, I really do [*dont promote other sites*] Sunday or at latest [*dont promote other sites*] we will hear the cerfificaion of the 17 provencies [*dont promote other sites*] spelling geesh [*dont promote other sites*] then by then the 1 left will be in to get certifed which will be a no brainer becuase it has been counted twice [*dont promote other sites*] so for sure they will certify it [*dont promote other sites*] so where does that put us on a time line [*dont promote other sites*] well monday they will be submitting a final provence to be certifed, and the election is done and the PM will be seated [*dont promote other sites*] I say we should have a PM seated Tues or Wed IMO [*dont promote other sites*] watch how close I am to being accurate [*dont promote other sites*] the Parliment should be seated 2 to 3 days at latest after that [*dont promote other sites*] then the government will be in place [*dont promote other sites*] so realistically we can project an estimate that by Friday we can have a government in place [*dont promote other sites*] if all goes as I predicted [*dont promote other sites*] based on infor [*dont promote other sites*] we have now recieved [*dont promote other sites*] so we are very close guys I think a week away [*dont promote other sites*] if you want the dont promote other sites guess to day of RV [*dont promote other sites*] it will be next Sunday if all the things I mentioned abvoe will happen int he time lines I projected [*dont promote other sites*] we will have to adjust based on real information next week [*dont promote other sites*] write this down [*dont promote other sites*] Step 1 [*dont promote other sites*] Certificaion of votes [*dont promote other sites*] STEP 2 [*dont promote other sites*] SEATING PM [*dont promote other sites*] STEP 3 [*dont promote other sites*] Seating of parliment [magic] The Sheik here we go with u again!!! [*dont promote other sites*] STEP 4 [*dont promote other sites*] RV [*dont promote other sites*] Lets all focus only on step 1 now [*dont promote other sites*] We have facts and know that all the provinces except baghdad will be certifed by monday [*dont promote other sites*] Recount done on sunday puts the last certification to be done monday or tuesday tops [*dont promote other sites*] So lets just follow step 1 for right now and all know we are in the end game people [*dont promote other sites*] So all of you need to start getting excited imo we are very close. [*dont promote other sites*] THATS ALL. ---------- I at least appreciate that he's not saying he knows the RV date but is speculating based of his "intel", which is really all anyone can do. Although I personally doubt they will RV until after CH 7 is lifted as that will free their economy to really thrive. So I'm thinking it will be sometime after that June 15th UN meeting and not sooner. But hey, I hope I'm wrong!

Well..the assumption is you are on this site to gather info on making MONEY off an ILLEGAL WAR (your words)..don't you find THAT a bit HYPOCRITICAL??? If it were raining gold pieces bet you'd complain about the lumps they would leave on your head!!! Amazing

I have read several times and in several places we are waiting for the IMF to set the rate or "pull the trigger ' In doing research for myself I found these documents. Please let me know if I am reading the wrong or if there is something else at work. Federal Reserve Bank of New York Since the 1930s, various international organizations such as the International Monetary Fund (IMF) have been established to help nations coordinate their trade and foreign exchange policies and thereby avoid successive rounds of devaluation and retaliation. The 1976 revision of Article IV of the IMF charter encourages policymakers to avoid "manipulating exchange rates...to gain an unfair competitive advantage over other members." With this revision, the IMF also set forth each member nation's right to freely choose an exchange rate system. US Treasury, Fixed vs Flexible Exchange Rates More specifically, the U.S. Treasury has made four proposals to strengthen IMF surveillance.2 First; the membership of the IMF should clarify the principles of surveillance over exchange rate policies. Guidelines like “protracted large-scale intervention” and “excessive” reserve accumulation have been undefined for too long. Second, Article IV reports must include more substantial and pointed discussions of exchange rate issues – on a consistent basis, but especially in systemically important countries. The IMF – with its wealth of expertise and experience across the globe – is well positioned to discuss exchange rate policies with authorities and advocate change. Third, such engagement is more effective with credible consequences, and that is the “Special Consultation” mechanism. Consultations would be a more useful tool if designed to enable more regular use. Finally, the IMF should develop its techniques for assessing exchange rate behavior and extend this work more to emerging markets. Although the IMF should not be placed in the position of determining what the “right” exchange rate level is, quantitative efforts at exchange rate determination can be helpful in developing a qualitative assessment of a country’s exchange rate policies. IMF Articles of Agreement Section 2 Section 2. General exchange arrangements (a) Each member shall notify the Fund, within thirty days after the date of the second amendment of this Agreement, of the exchange arrangements it intends to apply in fulfillment of its obligations under Section 1 of this Article, and shall notify the Fund promptly of any changes in its exchange arrangements. ( Under an international monetary system of the kind prevailing on January 1, 1976, exchange arrangements may include (i) the maintenance by a member of a value for its currency in terms of the special drawing right or another denominator, other than gold, selected by the member, or (ii) cooperative arrangements by which members maintain the value of their currencies in relation to the value of the currency or currencies of other members, or (iii) other exchange arrangements of a member's choice. © To accord with the development of the international monetary system, the Fund, by an eighty-five percent majority of the total voting power, may make provision for general exchange arrangements without limiting the right of members to have exchange arrangements of their choice consistent with the purposes of the Fund and the obligations under Section 1 of this Article. Thanx,

Thanks EmilyJJJ, I'm not an unemployed deadbeat with skeletons in my closet - I don't need to sell dinar or any other scam to make ends meet, I'm pretty good even without an RV. I don't need to pump a "wealth management" website to collect personal information... eh, I'm not going there. This investment is a lot more to me than the money I'm going to make on it... it's about watching a country emerge from the depths of one of the worst situations the world has ever seen, and becoming a success story that will be talked about for centuries. I truly believe that this will be one for the history books, and those that knock it will be KICKING themselves in the butt!

According to Wickipedia, the rates for capital gains will return to those of the Clinton years after the Bush tax cuts expire at the end of 2010. This would mean that the long term capital gains tax would rise from 0% to 20% on the 15% general taxpayer category. Short term gains would go from 15% to 28% for the 15% category. See Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_gains_tax_in_the_United_States ) It appears however that if the Obama budget passes, the rate structure for those under 200,000 in income would supposedly remain the same as they are now, under the Bush tax cuts. It may also be that the senate may continue the Bush tax cuts till 2012 anyway because of the economy. A second issue of greater significance is the question of when the de facto capital gains holding period terminates. Some assert that this period depends on your actual trade-in date, leaving you the option to retain the dinars til the long term rate triggers while others assert the holding period terminates effectively when the RV takes place forcing you potentially into short term tax treatment. The determination could be worth in the millions to some of us. Opinions from those who know the answer would be very helpful at this time. By Jeanne Sahadi, senior writerFebruary 2, 2010: 12:58 PM ET NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- President Obama, in his proposed 2011 budget, is calling on Congress to make a number of tax changes for individuals. Some ideas are new. Many others were made last year, but not enacted by Congress. So the estimates of the revenue that may be raised by his proposals may be overly optimistic.Across the universe of individual and corporate taxes, "what's most striking is how little new ground [the president's budget] ploughs," said Clint Stretch, managing principal of tax policy at Deloitte Tax LLC. Here's a breakdown of some of Obama's key proposals for 2011 and beyond that would affect individuals: High-income households Let tax cuts expire: The 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts are scheduled to expire by 2011. Obama is sticking to his call to let those tax cuts expire for high-income households ($200,000 for individuals; $250,000 for families). The White House estimates close to $700 billion would be raised over 10 years. This provision would raise the top two individual income tax rates to where they were in 2001, before passage of the Bush tax cuts. The 33% bracket would become 36%. And the 35% bracket would rise to 39.6%. In addition, the long-term capital gains tax rate would increase to 20%, up from 15% currently. The provision would also reinstate so-called phaseouts for high-income households, which would essentially reduce their eligibility for a host of personal exemptions. The House may be amenable to letting the tax cuts expire in 2011 for wealthier Americans. But Stretch said it may be a tougher vote in the Senate, where there may be more of an inclination to wait until 2012 when the economy is expected to be on firmer footing. 0:00 /3:03What is America's middle class? Limit itemized deductions: The president proposes to cap at 28% the rate at which high-income households can itemize their deductions. Currently the value of a deduction is equal to the deductible amount multipled by one's top income tax rate, which can range well above 28%. So deductions will be worth less to a high-income tax filer under the president's proposal. Capping itemized deductions is a proposal he made last year and it went nowhere. That's in part because many in Congress said it would seriously curb charitable giving, even though that is not a foregone conclusion. If the measure gains any traction this year, it's likely Congress would limit the cap to only certain types of deductions, thereby muting its revenue-raising effect. The White House estimates that capping the rate on deductions could raise $291 billion over 10 years. Obama maps routes to lower deficits Keep the estate tax: The president's budget assumes the estate tax will be made permanent at a $3.5 million exemption level per person and a top rate of 45% on taxable estates. That's much more generous than current law, which calls for a $1 million exemption level and a 55% top rate starting in 2011. But it's less generous than a proposal getting bipartisan support in the Senate. The Senate proposal would institute a $5 million exemption level per person and a top rate of 35%. Altering the estate tax to the levels Obama has proposed would increase the deficit by $262 billion over 10 years. Raise taxes on investment fund manager profits: Obama would like to tax the portion of profits paid to managers of hedge funds and private equity funds as ordinary income rather than as a capital gain. That would subject it to much higher tax rates than the 15% capital gains rate currently imposed. The White House estimates the measure would raise $24 billion over 10 years. This is a carryover proposal from last year. While Congress hasn't acted on it yet, there's a fair chance they may move on it in the next year, since lawmakers will be looking for ways to pay for other costly legislation they'd like to pass. Eliminate capital gains tax on small business stock: There are currently capital gains tax breaks in place for investors in small businesses, defined as companies with gross assets of $50 million or less. But the president is proposing to eliminate the capital gains tax altogether on stock in small businesses held for at least five years. The measure would only apply to stock acquired after Feb. 17, 2009. The cost of the president's proposal is an estimated $8.1 billion over 10 years. Lower and middle income households Make tax cuts permanent: The president's budget assumes all the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts will be made permanent for everyone making less than $200,000 ($250,000 for couples), which is the majority of American households. That means, among other things, that today's rates on income tax, capital gains and dividends would remain the same. It's an expensive proposition, however, costing federal coffers nearly $2 trillion over 10 years. Permanently protect the middle class from the "wealth" tax: The administration assumes in the president's budget that Congress will permanently change the parameters of the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT). That would protect tens of millions of middle-income families from having to pay the tax, which was originally intended only for the highest earners. The cost of such a provision is close to $660 billion over 10 years. Extend the Make Work Pay credit: The president's 2011 budget calls for a one-year extension of the stimulus-created tax credit that adds a few dollars to workers' paychecks every pay period. The extension is estimated to boost the deficit by $61.2 billion over 10 years. Calling for just a one-year extension is a switch from Obama's call to make the credit permanent last year. The hope may still be that the credit is renewed every year -- as many tax breaks are. But by only calling for a one-year extension, the impact on the 10-year deficit appears to be less. Permanently expand a low-income tax credit: The stimulus package temporarily expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit for very low-income families with three or more children. The expansion meant such families could claim a credit equal to 45% of their qualifying earnings, up from 40%, so that they could get a maximum credit of $5,657. President Obama wants to make that increase permanent at an estimated cost of $15.2 billion over 10 years. Expand child-care tax credit: Under the president's budget, families making less than $85,000 would be able to claim nearly double the child and dependent care tax credit for which they currently qualify. The White House estimates the increase will raise the deficit by $12.6 billion over 10 years. Permanently extend the American Opportunity Tax Credit: Created under stimulus legislation, the American Opportunity Tax Credit expanded for 2009 and 2010 the existing Hope Scholarship tax credit and made it partially refundable -- meaning that a tax filer could get money back even if it meant he or she would be getting back more from Uncle Sam than paid in federal income tax. The credit is worth up to $2,500 for higher education expenses, up from $1,800 previously. The president would like to make the measure permanent, adding to the deficit by $75.4 billion over 10 years. Share this Print Email Obama unveils $3.8 trillion budget proposal Stimulus: Secret sequel in the president's budget

I'm Tired! by Robert A. Hall I'm 63. Except for one semester in college when jobs were scarce and a six-month period when I was between jobs, but job-hunting every day, I've worked, hard, since I was 18. Despite some health challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks, and haven't called in sick in seven or eight years. I make a good salary, but I didn't inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, there's no retirement in sight, and I'm tired. Very tired. I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to people who don't have my work ethic. I'm tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it. I'm tired of being told that I have to pay more taxes to "keep people in their homes." Sure, if they lost their jobs or got sick, I'm willing to help. But if they bought McMansions at three times the price of our paid-off, $250,000 condo, on one-third of my salary, then let the left-wing Congress-critters who passed Fannie and Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act that created the bubble help them with their own money. I'm tired of being told how bad America is by left-wing millionaires like Michael Moore, George Soros and Hollywood entertainers who live in luxury because of the opportunities America offers. In thirty years, if they get their way, the United States will have the economy of Zimbabwe , the freedom of the press of China , the crime and violence of Mexico , the tolerance for Christian people of Iran , and the freedom of speech of Venezuela. I'm tired of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace," when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family "honor"; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren't "believers"; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for "adultery"; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur'an and Shari'a law tells them to. I'm tired of being told that "race doesn't matter" in the post-racial world of Obama, when it's all that matters in Affirmative Action jobs, lower college admission and graduation standards for minorities (harming them the most), government contract set-asides, tolerance for the ghetto culture of violence and fatherless children that hurts minorities more than anyone, and in the appointment of U.S. Senators from Illinois. I think it's very cool that we have a black president and that a black child is doing her homework at the desk where Lincoln wrote the Emancipation Proclamation. I just wish the black president was Condi Rice, or someone who believes more in freedom and the individual and less arrogantly of an all-knowing government. I'm tired of a news media that thinks Bush's fundraising and inaugural expenses were obscene, but that think Obama's, at triple the cost, were wonderful; that thinks Bush exercising daily was a waste of presidential time, but Obama exercising is a great example for the public to control weight and stress; that picked over every line of Bush's military records, but never demanded that Kerry release his; that slammed Palin, with two years as governor, for being too inexperienced for VP, but touted Obama with three years as senator as potentially the best president ever. Wonder why people are dropping their subscriptions or switching to Fox News? Get a clue. I didn't vote for Bush in 2000, but the media and Kerry drove me to his camp in 2004. I'm tired of being told that out of "tolerance for other cultures" we must let Saudi Arabia use our oil money to fund mosques and Madrassa Islamic Schools to preach hate in America, while no American group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance. I'm tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight Global Warming, which no one is allowed to debate. My wife and I live in a two-bedroom apartment and carpool together five miles to our jobs. We also own a three-bedroom condo where our daughter and granddaughter live. Our carbon footprint is about 5% of Al Gore's, and if you're greener than Gore, you're green enough. I'm tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it off? I don't think *** people choose to be ***, but I damn sure think druggies chose to take drugs. And I'm tired of harassment from cool people treating me like a freak when I tell them I never tried marijuana. I'm tired of illegal aliens being called "undocumented workers," especially the ones who aren't working, but are living on Welfare or crime. What's next? Calling drug dealers, "Undocumented Pharmacists"? And, no, I'm not against Hispanics. Most of them are Catholic, and it's been a few hundred years since Catholics wanted to kill me for my religion. I'm willing to fast track for citizenship any Hispanic person, who can speak English, doesn't have a criminal record and who is self-supporting without family on Welfare, or who serves honorably for three years in our military....those are the citizens we need. I'm tired of latte liberals and journalists, who would never wear the uniform of the Republic themselves, or let their entitlement-handicapped kids near a recruiting station, trashing our military. They and their kids can sit at home, never having to make split-second decisions under life and death circumstances, and bad mouth better people than themselves. Do bad things happen in war? You bet. Do our troops sometimes misbehave? Sure. Does this compare with the atrocities that were the policy of our enemies for the last fifty years and still are? Not even close. So here's the deal. I'll let myself be subjected to all the humiliation and abuse that was heaped on terrorists at Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, and the critics can let themselves be subject to captivity by the Muslims, who tortured and beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, or the Muslims who tortured and murdered Marine Lt. Col. William Higgins in Lebanon, or the Muslims who ran the blood-spattered Al Qaeda torture rooms our troops found in Iraq, or the Muslims who cut off the heads of schoolgirls in Indonesia, because the girls were Christian. Then we'll compare notes. British and American soldiers are the only troops in history that civilians came to for help and handouts, instead of hiding from in fear. I'm tired of people telling me that their Party has a corner on virtue and the other Party has a corner on corruption. Read the papers; bums are bipartisan. And I'm tired of people telling me we need bipartisanship. I live in Illinois, where the "Illinois Combine" of Democrats has worked to loot the public for years. Not to mention the tax cheats in Obama's Cabinet. I'm tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of both parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I'm tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor. Speaking of poor--I'm tired of hearing people with air-conditioned homes, color TVs and two cars called poor. The majority of Americans didn't have that in 1970, but we didn't know we were "poor." The poverty pimps have to keep changing the definition of poor to keep the dollars flowing. I'm real tired of people who don't take responsibility for their lives and actions. I'm tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination or big-whatever for their problems. Yes, I'm damn tired. But I'm also glad to be 63. Because, mostly, I'm not going to have to see the world these people are making. I'm just sorry for my granddaughter. Robert A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam Veteran who served five terms in the Massachusetts State Senate.

Personally, I feel this rant is worthy of a sad head-shaking only. No comment needed sad to say.............

[it makes me mad that you use this forum to spew your madness.

What time are you referencing as "what it was at one time"? I really am curious .. what is the reference point? How will we know when we have "restored our country to what it was at one time"? I find this all interesting and watched one of the YouTube videos with Tim Turner. I don't agree, but I do find it interesting. Thanks! luckylucy

I haven't used this in such a long time that I didn't even know they re-formatted their website layout for it. It is a useful tool for not just Iraq but any other country too. For the most part is almost always current. CIA - The World Factbook - Iraq Scroll down to the below listings underneath "Economy" and you will see how much money they have out there. Now I am no expert but in comparison to the other countries it is way under value IMO so I see no issues whats so ever about a strong RV or a RI to put it where it should be up in the ranks. Stock of money Stock of quasi money Stock of domestic It looks like last update was 31-Dec-2008 for these but it can't be that far off IMO.

Shame on them for mixing the two ...I agree politics and sports need to keep seperate.

Thanks Bump.

'willie' date='08 May 2010 Very interesting are the talking in coding on us here? 2010 Operational Rates of Exchange Last updated 29 Apr. 2010 for the effective date of 01 May 2010 and thereafter until further notice. Note: Due to the current fluctuation of Euro in the currenty market, it is likely that we will revise the operational rates of major currencies including currencies linked to major currencies on 12 May for the effective date of 14 May 2010. Please be sure to check the mid-month revisions http://www.un.org/depts/treasury/ Questions to Willie: Is the Iraqi dinar considered to be a "major currency" in this document? What "power" does any organization have to dictate to Iraq or any sovereign country to revalue their currency by a certain date? So far, it seems that every governmental and financial organization has been impotent when it comes to holding the Iraqi dinar to be revalued by any deadline. Instead, it looks as though they continue, at the blink of an eye, to give Iraq extension after extension, while the bank(s) in the U.S. holding hundreds of billions of dinars continue to collect billions of dollars in interest from that money. If I were Iraq, I wouldn't be in any rush to revalue. Particularly if I'm one of the "Iraqi governmental leaders" who probably is collecting millions of dollars from the U.S. government and the bank that's "holding" the dinars. My theory is, too, that the members of the U.N. and our "incorruptible" government officials from the president down, past and present, have already privately cashed in their dinars at the $3.19 (or more) rate that apparently was established last year as the "eventual" exchange rate. Why don't we ever hear in the financial newscasts about the lifting of Chapter 7 or the upcoming reval by Iraq? My theory is that the global overlords who own virtually all of the communications media in the world, along with the economies of every country in the world want to keep it quiet and can dictate what will and will not be broadcast - at the risk of the broadcaster being discredited, discharged and made to disappear. Then, we keep hearing dates from chat rooms when the Iraqi dinar, in particular, is going to reval. For many investors in the dinar, it's become a nightmarish series of disappointments for years. Such unfulfilled scenarios only help the pumpers, tauters, con artists and peddlers to move more dinars for U.S. dollars, a portion of which probably go into the pockets of the Iraqi "uncorrupted" leaders. I, for one, won't be surprised if Iraq never revals the dinar as long as its so called "kahunas" can continue to ride the apparent "U.S. government gravy train" provided by and paid for by the U.S. taxpayers with tax money that Obama gave away to the "incorruptible financial constituents on Wall Street because they just had a couple of bad years!" I won't be surprised if the Iraqi dinar is not revalued very soon or is even considered to be a "major currency" in the 2010 Operational Rates of Exchange you referred to above. Is it? Is it even listed? Thank you. Squaredaway

A chat this morning with one of our very own, relaying his experience with the Kuwait currency ... as an encouragement to others, Ronin allowed us to post his chat! Read and enjoy! [Ronin7043] babydoll77 but i was in on the kuwait ri [gwright] less than a year [babydoll77] Ronin7043 when was that? [gwright] Ronin7043 some say that never happened [steveh12] this Dinar Investment is like a Marrige [Ronin7043] babydoll77 in the 90s [Ronin7043] gwright well i'm here to tell you they are wrong [LeeB32] we still have lots of funny money I see [babydoll77] gwright we will have to pay short gain tx.huh [babydoll77] steveh12 how so? [Ronin7043] gwright or where you talking that it never happened with me? [gwright] babydoll77 with my income so low and not being heabily invested I really don't know [gwright] heavily [steveh12] Your Excited the First Year, then its just there [babydoll77] steveh12 [steveh12] [gwright] Ronin7043 no was laughing some say there never was an ri for kuwait and here you are saying oh in fact it did [edavis] Ronin7043 hey buddy how's it going [Ronin7043] edavis hey how are you [edavis] great [edavis] wanted to ask you [Ronin7043] edavis ok [edavis] when the kuwait dinar rvvvvvvvvvvv'd was there a lot of misinfo out leading up to the rv [gwright] Ronin7043 wasn't saying you weren't telling the truth sorry if it sounded that way [edavis] or did you guys have a good idea it was going to hit when it did [babydoll77] edavis good question [steveh12] Did edavis raise His Hand? [babydoll77] steveh12 pay attention [edavis] steveh12 don't you want to know [steveh12] DOH [Ronin7043] edavis there was no enternet then so the info was comeing from boots on the ground and the currency people ( sellers) so the info was almost the same but not as much [Ronin7043] gwright is ok [gwright] Ronin7043 guess I am being nosey but how well did you do with the kuwait ri? [luckylucy] Ronin7043 did you buy the currency like we are buying dinars now? [Ronin7043] i was lucky in that the guy that got me in had a brother over thier and it told us when he phoned home once a month [gwright] or rv [steveh12] Bout Time Lucy [Ronin7043] my father and it went in for XXXXXXXXXXX and we used the friend that was over there [gwright] boy I am glad there is some actual chat going on was getting depressed [steveh12] [edavis] Ronin7043 did you just wake up one morning rich..or were you really on top of it once a month via the phone calls [luckylucy] gwright [Ronin7043] on morning at 2.30 am ny friend got a call from is brother and it was on after that [steveh12] [gwright] luckylucy [gwright] wow like christmas morning [Ronin7043] me and my father took a hit in the spread, we didn't know where else to go to cash [babydoll77] Ronin7043 what do you mean took hit in spread? [gwright] hmmm just gave me an idea [Ronin7043] bank took .80 off the top [luckylucy] Ronin7043 yuuukkkk [steveh12] Its Christmas? [babydoll77] Ronin7043 ouch!! [gwright] have dinar for my kids will put up tree quickly and put dinar in big boxes when it rv's [antfuzz] The spread is the difference between the buy and sell rate [steveh12] [babydoll77] gwright gwright [gwright] steveh12 one dinar in each box [gwright] serious [steveh12] Scrooge [steveh12] [edavis] Ronin7043 yeah but at 7.00 exchange rate...80 is nothing [Ronin7043] the think is we waited to cash we where told the it wes going up it came in at 1.10 almost two months it went to 7.00 then my dad freaked and wanted out [gwright] scrooge...they don't know how much I bought for them [Ronin7043] so we sold [gwright] Ronin7043 good job ! [Ronin7043] but one month later it went to 9.00 then one week later it went to 3.90 where it is today [edavis] Ronin7043 boy...what a ride [steveh12] and now you are talking to the little people [gwright] wow can't waite to do the christmas tree thing now [gwright] [Ronin7043] if it wasn't for my dad i might of waited and lost out at 3.90 [steveh12] gwright [gwright] steveh12 I'm like a little kid [steveh12] BBL Gang [edavis] Ronin7043 it's really nice to hear from someone..who's been their, not just speculating. I was active duty mil. during that time but missed out...but not this time [steveh12] Bye [luckylucy] Ronin7043 wow ... I wish you'd post this ... just as encouragement for others. [Ronin7043] edavis thank you for your service [gwright] Ronin7043 yes ty for sharing that has lifted my spirits a lot!!!!! [luckylucy] these things really do happen! Ronin7043 [Ronin7043] yw l

Not that anyone believe him anymore, but just for fun... ---------- 5:28 PM [terryk] re-confirms that the discharge documents was done 5:28 PM [terryk] at 12:34am 5:28 PM [terryk] which means 5:28 PM [terryk] they can now come out of chapt 7 5:29 PM [terryk] key word is they can come out of 5:29 PM [terryk] now in addition i was told that if they do what kuwait did 5:29 PM [terryk] they can rv or ri without us knowing about it until the banks open 5:29 PM [terryk] now in addition i was told that if they do what kuwait did 5:29 PM [terryk] or that forex updates on Sunday 5:29 PM [terryk] at 5 pm 5:34 PM [terryk] im hearing they have selected the pm 5:35 PM [terryk] have not seen anything where he has been seated 5:35 PM [terryk] my thoughts then debbie is to continue working 5:35 PM [terryk] but IRAQ 5:35 PM [terryk] cant go much longer 5:35 PM [terryk] without the rv 5:36 PM [debbie2] so we are told … but they still seem that they are in no hurry 5:36 PM [terryk] debbie you dont understand the complex methods of the getting the goverment 5:36 PM [terryk] into the right position 5:36 PM [terryk] they are going to be the SECOND strongest power in the world 5:37 PM [terryk] IRAQ 5:38 PM [terryk] and debbie if you were going to be the DUDE in charge 5:38 PM [terryk] you would all want the position 5:39 PM [terryk] they stoped counting the votes for a reason 5:39 PM [terryk] they have selected a PM 5:39 PM [terryk] he is to be announced 5:39 PM [terryk] in the next day or so 5:39 PM [terryk] and a VP 5:39 PM [terryk] and a president 5:39 PM [terryk] they have the gov body ready to be seated 5:39 PM [terryk] this is so close peeps 5:40 PM [terryk] let me put it this way, I almost did not fly off shore this morning thats how close this is 5:43 PM [terryk] i think that we will see this very VERY soon

ITS ALL A BIG GAME, A SHOW IF YOU WILL

I don't know how you would feel about this, but there is no way in H@LL I would give my information to this guy. DV members, this guy is scary. * another site: New Anonymous Poll MAY 9, 2010 · POSTED IN CHATS / POSTS, TIDBIT All, As many of you know, I’m a numbers and stats guy. I’ve added a new anonymous poll asking for your participation in sharing how many IQD and VND you hold. This is anonymous, and I am asking for nothing but your answers. The form itself requires you add an email to validate you are a unique responder. I look forward to reading the results, and I will share those with each of you in a follow-up post in about a week or so. I’m curious about the results per state and country as well. Enjoy! DD

its quotes the guy "Many countries have taken action himself, including Turkey, which deleted six zeroes from the currency, and therefore the right of the[b] Iraqi Central Bank could adjust the exchange rate this way, especially since there is a difference large numbers no longer reflects the value of domestic production of Iraq. " In my eariler post, I showed exactly what Turkey did. He said they could do it this way. Nothing about 25000 dinar will be 25.

Iraq pays the biggest reparations in history to Kuwait Translated by IRAQdirectory.com - [5/8/2010] Iraqi minister said that his country paid enormous sums to Kuwait for its losses, and added, "We do not know a State that has made such payments." Oil Minister of Iraq said that his country paid enormous compensation sums for the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Iraq has paid enough financial compensation to Kuwait, pointing out that " total amounts paid by Germany to France and Britain less than paid by Iraq to Kuwait till now, despite it was a global war and the losses great." He announced at a press conference for the start of third round licensing for the development of three oil fields, "Iraq cannot continue this unjust resolutions against Iraq by the Security Council," adding that "his country had expressed its concern tobe continued by the Security Council and now there are negotiations to reconsider this matter. " "We hope from our brothers in Kuwait to reconsider the subject, and work together to forget tragedies of the past which has cost Iraq more than it cost the neighbors of Iraq and the Iraqi victims and the losses that it suffered more than others." "We must make a break with these files and move forward." Iraq pays 5% of its oil revenues to international compensation fund during the invasion for a rich-oil Gulf state in 1991. Baghdad seeks to reduce this ratio to 2,5%. And the payment so far a total of 27.62 billion dollars in compensation to people, companies, organizations and governments. Kuwaiti Deputy announced last month that Iraq will have to pay 24 billion dollars to Kuwait. http://www.iraqdirectory.com/DisplayNews.aspx?id=12423

'When the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes! Illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all ok with you, but helping other Americans... well that makes me mad!' gbesley, We have always had the 'right' to see a doctor~it has always been our choice~that choice has been taken away, now it is mandatory~it is sad you are so angry....sounds like you need lots of prayer, this is not meant to be a snide remark....it is written from my deepest feelings of sorrow for you and how angry you appear to be...may God touch your heart and bring you peace that passes all understanding....

LOL!!! :lmao:

to all who are helping give intel to this site i thank you very much, all of these comments are personal opinions and in no way mean anything negative towards med himself, i bet he/she is a very nice person. but i always come out after reading these chat logs of his/hers and have the same feeling i get after watching an episode of that crazy show lost. go rv!

Thanks for the post!! They need to get this accomplished.

Barbann, This recipe is from a lodge in Alaska named the "Tree Tops Fishing Lodge" it is fantastic. Grilled Salmon: Directions: Preheat the Grill on High Leave skin on filets – Wash and Pat Dry Place 3 sheets of foil on counter and fold up the sides like a boat – Place filets on foil Sprinkle Johnny’s Salt Seasoning, Garlic Salt, Onion Salt, Lemon Pepper & Mrs. Dash on the Salmon. (Garlic Powder and Onion Powder may be substituted) In a measuring cup mix ¼ cup Soy Sauce – ¼ cup butter – Garlic Salt and heat in the microwave until the butter has melted – stir and pour over the filets. Place the boat on the hot grill and cook for approximately 10 – 15 Minutes (Until the juices come to the top) To Serve take a thin spatula and gently separate the skin and place on a warm platter and Serve. It is absolutely delicious. Enjoy

Very educational. If only the major networks would cover this, more Americans would see just how great our military is and the positive difference they made.

Good post thank you.

HATS OFF TO CHARLIE DANIELS....AT LEAST HE HAS THE COURAGE TO SPEAK HIS MIND!!! I don't know how everybody else feels about it, but to me I think Hispanic people in this country, legally or illegally, made a huge public relations mistake with their recent demonstrations. I don't blame anybody in the world for wanting to come to the United States of America , as it is a truly wonderful place. But when the first thing you do when you set foot on American soil is illegal it is flat out wrong and I don't care how many lala land left heads come out of the woodwork and start trying to give me sensitivity lessons. I don't need sensitivity lessons, in fact I don't have any-thing against Mexicans! I just have something against criminals and anybody who comes into this country illegally is a criminal and if you don't believe it try coming into America from a foreign country without a passport and see how far you get. What disturbs me about the demonstrations is that it's tanta-mount to saying, "I am going to come into your country even if it means breaking your laws and there's nothing you can do about it." It's an "in your face" action and speaking just for me, I don't like it one little bit and if there were a half dozen pairs of gonads in Washington bigger than English peas it wouldn't be happening. Where are you, you bunch of lily livered, pantywaist, forked tongued, sorry excuses for defenders of The Constitution? Have you been drinking the water out of the Potomac again? And even if you pass a bill on immigration it will probably be so pork laden and watered down that it won't mean anything anyway Besides, what good is another law going to do when you won't enforce the ones on the books now? And what ever happened to the polls, guys? I thought you folks were the quintessential finger wetters. Well you sure ain't paying any attention to the polls this time because somewhere around eighty percent of Americans want some thing done about this mess, and mess it is and getting bigger everyday. This is no longer a problem, it is a dilemma and headed for being a tragedy. Do you honestly think that what happened in France with the Muslims can't happen here when the businesses who hire these people finally run out of jobs and a few million disillusioned Hispanics take to the streets? If you, Mr. President, Congressmen and Senators, knuckle under on this and refuse to do something meaningful it means that you care nothing for the kind of country your children and grand-children will inherit. But I guess that doesn't matter as long as you get re-elected. Shame on you. One of the big problems in America today is that if you have the nerve to say anything derogatory about any group of people (except Christians) you are going to be screamed at by the media and called a racist, a bigot and anything else they can think of to call you Well I've been pounded by the media before and I'm still rockin' and rollin' and when it comes to speaking the truth I fear not. And the truth is that the gutless, gonadless, milksop politicians are just about to sell out the United States of America because they don't have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to face reality. And reality is that we would never allow any other group of people to have 12 million illegal in this country and turn around and say, "Oh it's ok, ya'll can stay here if you'll just allow us to slap your wrist." And I know that some of you who read this column are saying "Well what's wrong with that?" I'll tell you what's wrong with it. These people could be from Mars as far as we know. We don't know who they are, where they are or what they're up to and the way the Congress is going we're not going to. Does this make sense? Labor force you say? We already subsidize corporate agriculture as it is, must we subsidize their labor as well? If these people were from Haiti would we be so fast to turn a blind eye to them or if they were from Somalia or Afghanistan ? I think not. All the media shows us are pictures of hard working Hispanics who have crossed the border just to try to better their life. They don't show you pictures of the Feds rounding up members of MS 13, the violent gang who came across the same way the decent folks did. They don't tell you about the living conditions of the Mexican illegal some fat cat hired to pick his crop. I want to make two predictions. No. 1: This situation is going to grow and fester until it erupts in violence on our streets while the wimps in Washington drag their toes in the dirt and try to figure how many tons of political hay they can make to the acre. No 2: Somebody is going to cross that border with some kind of weapon of mass destruction and set it off in a major American city after which there will be a backlash such as this country has never experienced and the Capitol building in Washington will probably tilt as Congressmen and Senators rush to the other side of the issue. I don't know about you but I would love to see just one major politician stand up and say, "I don't care who I make mad and I don't care how many votes I lose, this is a desperate situation and I'm going to lead the fight to get it straightened out." I don't blame anybody for wanting to come to America , but if you don't respect our immigration laws why should you respect any others? And by the way, this is America and our flag has stars and stripes Please get that other one out of my face. God Bless America Charlie Daniels MY COUNTRY IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY, SPEAK UP! I am not against immigration - just come through like everyone else Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes; live by the rules; and LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past and GOD BLESS AMERICA! PART OF THE PROBLEM Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone, YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by people from other countries who came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice? Think about it! All we have to say is, when will Someone do something about MY RIGHTS? We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems no one has a problem with that. "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women - on Christian principles - founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. It is Time for America to Speak up If you agree - pass this along; if you don't agree - delete it!

Update on "ABC NEWS" on this story, aired yesterday. More..... http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/craigslist-killers-10590531

Deep-Sea Ice Crystals Stymie Gulf Oil Leak Fix Ice crystals clog containment box in 1st attempt to slow Gulf oil leak; tar washes up in Ala. Icelike crystals encrusting a 100-ton steel-and-concrete box meant to contain oil gushing from a broken well deep in the Gulf of Mexico forced crews Saturday to back off the long-shot plan, while more than 100 miles away, blobs of tar washed up at an Alabama beach full of swimmers. The failure in the first attempt to use the specially constructed containment box over the leak 50 miles off the Louisiana coast, coupled with the ominous arrival of the sticky substance at Dauphin Island, Ala., crushed hopes of a short-term solution to what could yet grow into the worst oil spill in the nation's history. More than 3 million gallons of crude have spewed into the Gulf since a rig exploded April 20, killing 11, and officials said it would be at least Monday before a different solution is found. Authorities in protective gear descended on the public beach on Dauphin Island, three miles off the Alabama mainland at the mouth of Mobile Bay and much farther east than oil had been reported. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=10590501

Military says Turkish warplanes hit Kurdish rebel targets in northern Iraq Associated Press ANKARA, Turkey ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — Turkey's military says its warplanes have struck Kurdish rebel targets inside northern Iraq. The military's press office said on Saturday that Turkish warplanes pounded positions across the border on Friday after army helicopters came under anti-aircraft fire from Iraqi soil. It said the rebel positions there were destroyed. The helicopters were chasing a group of Turkish Kurdish rebels who killed two soldiers in a cross-border attack near the Daglica area along the Iraqi border. Five rebels were killed in the clashes. It was the largest reported clash between the troops and autonomy-seeking Kurdish rebels since the guerrillas killed four soldiers and wounded seven others in an attack on a military outpost in eastern Turkey on April 30. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/05/08/military-says-turkish-warplanes-hit-kurdish-rebel-targets-northern-iraq/

So the recount was probably a "stall" tactic to allow Alliwi the last couple of months to go around the Middle East and drum up support. I guess also for some of the other political maneuvering we have read articles about in the last few days. Well if nothing else it did give them time to make these deals and perhaps now that they are at least back in the country they are vying to lead something will transpire in the not to distant future, regarding the forming of an Iraqi government anyway. Thanks for the post, Todd

Here is one conversation with a member of this site "Ronin7043" that was involved in the Kuwait roller coaster ride. Link:

No Dinar News - Move along if that's all your after We stand at a unique time in history... While we are on, what is, imo, at least the change of a season and at most the end of an age... We currently have the ability to do some amazing things... One of those things is to build strong interdependent personal relationships with those we have never physically met... Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves. Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. Romans 12:9-11 Back in the fall of 08... I had the opportunity to get to know, via the internet and numerous phone calls Frank26... In the beginning of our relationship Frank would spend hours on the phone with me... My life circumstances had brought me to my knees... At the end of my rope I met Jesus.... And my Savior sent Frank... Frank encouraged... he loved... he listened... He told me to grasp on to Christ and never let go.... And I did... and I havent... Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 1 Corinthians 1:26 Those were some dark days for me... But it was the beginning of the most incredible journey... Both spiritually and in the natural... I was intrigued by this man... who was so giving... But Frank demanded something from me... My word that I would help him take the love of JESUS CHRIST to the four corners of the world.... My answer then was the same as it is now.... Yes sir... or in Frank speak... Roger That.... Frank planted a seed into my life... The seed of loving and caring for God's children... to love them because God loves them... And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:7 About two weeks ago... I found out that Frank and Jan would be in Cincy the weekend of May 1st.. And my wonderful Sister, Debs said all I would have to worry about was gas up there and back.... So I prayed... and asked Pappa that if I was to go.. He needed to pave my way.... Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you. Philippians 4:8-9 Quickly... I had a place for the girls to stay... and a place for the dog to stay... and the money to go.... So as Pappa had cleared the way... I knew I was suppose to go... But I didnt know if it was to meet Frank and Jan or if I was suppose to be there for other reasons.. "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. Isaiah 55:8 I have developed a mental image of Frank and Jan... Based on the calls and their postings.. based on my dealings with the two of them for the last year and a half.... While I have always "known" them.. It was really good to see them... A man of many companions may come to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother. Proverbs 18:24 In person, Frank is the same man as he presents himself to be... He is truly a man after God's own heart... He sweats love.. it pours out of every pore of his body... He never met a stranger the whole weekend... and He has this unique ability to see the world with the excitement and joy of a child.... Yet when He looks you in the eyes.... You know he can see your soul..... Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves. Romans 12:10 God has provided Frank with an incredible helpmate in Jan... She has a wonderful sense of humor... and a soul that is as pure as snow... I believe that the same qualities that God made into Mary, Jesus's Mom.. He put into Jan... She is loving and caring.... and every bit the Proverbs 31 woman that I expected her to be... "I am the Lord's servant," Mary answered. "May it be to me as you have said." Luke 1:38 Together... They are a dynamic duo for the Lord... They have some funny habits... like always kissing after they pray... They hold hands in public... They adore each other and dont mind if the world takes notice of that devotion.... Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, people have never hated their own bodies, but they feed and care for them, just as Christ does the church— for we are members of his body. "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh." This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband. Ephesians 5:22-33 Even though It was a priviledge to meet them.... and like I posted before, I will hold those memories close to my heart... the reason I was there.... Was to be able to worship our Lord with them... imo, it is in the Worship of our Lord that you can really see the true heart of someone... and they... truly have the heart of David... when it comes to their devotion and love of our Lord and Savior... He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight. Luke 16:15 Now here we are 18 months later.... The seed that Frank planted in my life, and in the life of several of my fellow board members.... They have intertwined and grown into this wonderful, beautiful creation known at KTFM... The bush that is KTFM, is a place where we can simple love God's children, where we plant seeds in them on a daily basis... and in the near future that bush will be a huge tree... standing testimony to the Glory of God... and planting seeds of love in His children across the globe... And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matthew 28:18-20 For those of you that dont know... KTFM is far more then Frank.. far more then myself... It is governed by a board of directors... That I am privileged to serve as the President...In that position, I have one request to make to all of the KTFM family... If you have problems with the Forum, cant log in, find a post edited, find yourself banned, have a prayer request, have a need that you would like presented to KTFM... DO NOT CALL FRANK... that is not his job... PLEASE ..... PM me or email me at ktfmbrass@gmail.com ....... Please keep Josh and Staci in your prayers... The last I heard he was getting out of the hospital today.. But he has at least a two week recovery in front of him.... In addition.... Frank and Jan... have been so giving to all of us... This giving has come with a sacrifice on their part... The enemy sees that they are being effective for the Kingdom, and he is attacking... Please keep them in your prayers.... We need to keep a prayer covering over them at all times.... We have another assistance case... the family below.. have dedicated themselves to serving our Lord and spreading the Gospel... Thanks to Bamabreeze for her work on this case... Case # MN-000002 This assistance case was brought to us from a forum member: My parents are in their 70s. They are (semi) retired ministers (as much as someone can retire who works for the Lord... ) They have traveled spreading the ministry with lectures, assistance and books in over 80 countries. Ministers pay social security a lot less than we do as employees. My dad has a little less than 1000 a month, and my mom is less than 500. They were in NC with my oldest brother helping in his church there, and want to eventually move back to OK where they are from. I was the only one of their children with a spare room for them to live in until this RI happens. So here they are in MS. My mom is scheduled for some outpatient surgery on Tuesday... they called today and because she is in another state and considered to be out of her area where doctors are concerned... her Medicare Supplemental will only pay 70%. They have absolutely NO money. This 30% totals $834. I know this doesn't sound like much to some people... But it's more than 1/2 of what they get a month from SS... She needs to have a Stapedectomy on her ear. She had one ear done 35 years ago and now needs the other ear done. Her hearing loss is severe, and this is depressing for her because she cannot hear anyone speaking around her. This surgery will restore her hearing and allow her to continue her work and counseling for God. I made an appointment with my ear doctor (I had this surgery 3 years ago) and we were very excited to hear he could get her hearing back. It's already scheduled for this Tuesday, and we are believing it will be taken care of by God. Take this information into your prayer closet, ask God to bless this couple... and ask him if you should be part of that blessing..... Each time we present on of these cases... You all end up amazing me... Remember.... If your in need... Plant a seed... As you all know... Sunday is MOTHERS day.... I am planning on a short tribute to my Mom... and If anyone would like to send me a paragraph in honor of their Mom.... I will include it in Sunday's main post... Just pm me your tribute between now and Saturday evening.... As our Lord plans to bless us in a miraculous way... as He blesses us each day, as he shows his love for us day in and day out... Lets spend an evening Praising and Worshiping Him... and enjoying the fellowship of our Brothers and Sisters in Christ... I leave you in the JOY, LOVE and PEACE of our RISEN LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST... KTF YIC Adam

Yes it is.

Thank you for the post . Im not good at putting things into words but you said it all Im 68 years old and I work everyday and Im also tired. thanks again

Great to see that again! I bookmarked that a few months ago just to save it! Thanks for bringing it back to the forefront Maybe we should send that to ALL the politicians in Washington I sent it to my Senator(s) in Texas Semper Fi

This is not a Report but what I have seen and experienced in Iraq, then as a soldier (27 years retired) three OIF combat tours and now as a contractor supporting those I once was! And Good Morning too, from Iraq! I have so…… much I could share but little time with the current drawdown of US Forces. Here are a couple short stories that will solidify your investment decisions in regards to purchasing dinar, ISX and Al Warka. On 5 Jan 10, I opened an Al Warka count at branch 717, note: the branch is physically located on a Forward Operation Base (FOB). In opening my account I was apprehensive, curious and excited all at the same time. It was unlike any current US bank where you walk in, fill out the required paperwork ~ walk out with temporary checks in hand, three working days later you receive a debit card ~ and you’re off to the mall baby! I can honestly say there was apprehension when hand over several thousand USD to and unknown individual knowing he didn’t speak English and my Arabic sucks! When I opened my accounts Saving/Checking IQD and USD the deposit was annotated by hand in a small blue ledger and given to me along with deposit receipts. All deposit or withdrawals are initialed by the branch manager and the “official” Warka stamp is placed on every receipt. When opening my account I requested a Warka Debit Card ($5 cost) and Warka e-Bank ($15 cost). In the back of my mind, I’m thinking “If I were investing with Bernard Madoff my money would be safer!” When opening my accounts. I was told both my Warka Debit Card and e-Banking pin would be sent to the branch in 7 – 10 days. Well……5 weeks later I received my Warka Debit Card and pin #. I received my e-Banking instructions and pin via. email 2 weeks after that. The first thing I’m thinking is what good is this Warka Debit Card if I’m not in Iraq or can’t access a De La Rue machine. Note: all currency in my Warka account is IQD. For checks and balances I decided to purchase merchandize from AAFES using my Warka Debit Card ~ well it worked! The purchase when thought just like my Wells Fargo debit card. I will be testing my Warka Debit Card ~ internet purchase and when CONUS in about 7 weeks. I will keep everyone posted, if it works out side of Iraq. Additional checks and balance, when initially logging on to my online Warka e-Bank and accessing my accounts I noticed 5,580,000 IQR missing or not deposited in my savings account. I immediately when to the Warka Bank with all my receipts and surprisingly the correction was made in one day. Surprised at first, but there have been several occasions when I’m making a deposit and US Soldiers from the base finance company are exchanging USD for IQD. The GOI is forcing everyone to use IQD instead of USD. Why would Iraq force it’s currency to be circulated?  I will talk about ISX on later post. Economically – Being unlucky to convoy and lucky to fly to various locations with in Iraq. The economic growth is mind boggling! The construction to rebuild AND build an infrastructure of highway networks, rail networks and international travel is well underway. You truly have to see it to believe it. Also, I will keep everyone posted on Iraqi First Initiative (IFI). The IFI is the gradual replacement of contractors with Iraqi citizens as all military bases are turned over to Government of Iraq (GOI). I hope you find this informative. “Supporting Victory” God, not my will, Your Will Be!

LINK end of the line for allawi niqash | Muhammad Ashour | thu 06 may 10 After a month of painful negotiation, described by Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki as ‘sterile’, a new coalition formed of the State of Law list and Iraqi National Coalition is finally expected to redraw Iraq’s political map and allow the country to move forward politically. The coalition of the two lists forms the largest parliamentary bloc ever in Iraq, with the two lists occupying 159 of the 325 parliamentary seats. The formation of the coalition, announce on 4 May, was unexpected and put an end to the constant predictions and counter-predictions over the shape of the new parliamentary bloc that will form the next Iraqi government. The Kurds have also expressed their willingness to join the coalition, complicating matters for and putting more pressure on Iraqiya, whose leader, Iyad Allawi, will be forced to abandon his dream of becoming Prime Minister and settle for a lower-ranking ministerial portfolio. Allawi recently called upon the UN Security Council to intervene as the various blocs squabbled and bickered and got nowhere with forming a governing coalition. It is believed that it was this step that pushed the State of Law and the National Coalition together, as both a feared a repeat of the 2004 situation when Allawi took power after the UN stepped in to form the government. This prospect convinced the National Coalition that they should abandon their demand to agree on the name of the new Prime Minister before negotiating on the formation of a coalition. Faleh al-Faysd, a leading member of the National Coalition was quick to play down these claims. “The two parties were very close to each other right from the beginning,” he said. “The Iraqiya list’s call upon the Security Council to intervene in Iraq’s affairs has nothing to do with the formation of the coalition.” Ali al-Adeeb, of the State of Law bloc, said the formation of the new coalition was “an important step towards the formation of the government and towards ending the country’s current crisis.” He criticised those who accused the coalition of being based on sectarian grounds, adding that the constitution “has guaranteed political blocs’ right to form coalitions in order to reach their political aims. However, some parties insist on accusing others with sectarianism while they themselves practice it.” “The two blocs were one bloc in the last parliament and during the two election rounds that took place in Iraq in the past years. They will have the exclusive right to select the new prime minister from among members of the two blocs because they were able to gather 50% of the parliament seats,” said Adeeb, who headed the State of Law negotiation delegation. Al-Adeeb, whose name was once circulated as a potential alternative Prime Minister to Nouri al-Maliki, stressed that Iraqiya would definitely be invited to participate in the new coalition. “It is the Sunni expression and it has presence in 5 provinces with Sunni majority,” he said. He continued to express optimism about the length of time it will take to form a new government. “The coalition map is now much clearer and the coming days will allow parties to reach agreements on all their outstanding issues. This should lead to a speedy formation of the new government.” The Kurdistan bloc, which recently met in Erbil to unify their stance on parliamentary alliances, should prove a key supporter of the new coalition, as Kurds hope to install Jalal al-Talabani in the post of President. To do so, they need the support 217 of the 325 parliament members. If all the Kurds vote together alongside the State of Law and National Coalition, they will be just one seat short of the majority needed to approve Talabani’s Presidency. The Kurdish parties have formed the backbone of Iraqi political alliances since the outset and sent a clear signal to the new coalition expressing their readiness to rejoin on 14 April. President Talabani visited his former political opponent, Ibrahim al-Jaafari, and told him that the Kurds were waiting for the Shia to name their candidate for Prime Minister, so they can support the nomination. Talabani was criticised for his words, especially by members of the Iraqiya list, but many observers believe his intention was to speed up the formation of a political alliance following the elections. While Iyad Allawi heads a secular list made-up of a mix of Sunni and Shia politicians, his background caused many Shia to fear that he could be a ‘Trojan Horse’, bringing Sunnis back to power in Iraq. The new coalition, which is clearly Shia in identity, is a clear counter against this prospect. One of the biggest surprises is the abandonment by the Sadrists, who won 40 of the National Coalition’s 70 seats, of its hardline stance on cooperation with Maliki. However, with international intervention looming and another potential Allawi-headed UN-mandated government, divided on sectarian and ethnic lines, rather than on share of the popular vote, it is thought the Sadrists saw the need to compromise to maintain a strong share of important ministerial portfolios. Nothing detailed was released regarding talks held between Ibrahim al-Jaafari, Jamal Jafar and Moqtada al-Sadr in Iran but they only began when Allawi threatened the internationalisation of the electoral dispute. The prospect of complete exclusion from a salvation government, as happened in 2004, meant the Sadrists had to accept membership of a coalition they had previously promised not to join.

Here is a Link to a thread that might help with this topic. Link:

Deal uniting Iraq's rival Shiite factions gives clerics potential voice in political decisions Associated Press BAGHDAD Updated May 05, 2010 BAGHDAD (AP) — An agreement to form an alliance between Iranian-backed Shiite blocs gives the final say on political disputes to Iraq's top clerics, solidifying a role for the Shiite religious l... BAGHDAD (AP) — An agreement to form an alliance between Iranian-backed Shiite blocs gives the final say on political disputes to Iraq's top clerics, solidifying a role for the Shiite religious leadership in the country's likely new government. The agreement, obtained by The Associated Press Wednesday, is likely to alienate Iraq's other religious and ethnic sects from the potential new government — especially minority Sunnis already wary of the Shiite-dominated leadership. The U.S. has warned against excluding Sunnis for fear that sidelining the Sunni-backed election winner could enflame tensions. Several high-ranking Shiite officials confirmed to the AP the contents of the agreement, which lays out a list of conditions making possible the alliance between Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's State of Law coalition and the Iraqi National Alliance — until recently wary rivals for power. But it is the referee role given to the nation's Shiite clergy, which holds enormous weight with the Shiite majority, that is the most contentious clause to Iraq's other political groups. "The marjaiyah has the final say in solving all the disputes between the two sides and its directives and guidance are binding," the agreement said, referring to the religious Shiite leadership based in the holy city of Najaf. The need to bring in the highest religious authorities of Iraq's Shiites is a reflection of the deep distrust between the two rival blocs, but it would also give a government formed by the coalition an overtly religious character. Neighboring Iran, a Shiite theocracy where clerics have the final word on all matters of state, carries great influence with both groups and has long pushed for such an alliance. The provision only applies to the alliance, not officially to any new government. But if the Shiite alliance dominates the next government, clerics would potentially have a direct say in policy. The merger also means that the top vote-getter in the election, secular Shiite Ayad Allawi's Iraqiya list, which received strong Sunni backing, will be squeezed out of the process — angering his supporters. Besides the Sunnis, the agreement might also alienate Kurds and other factions, making it difficult to form an inclusive government for the fragmented country. "The fact that there is an official role for the clerical establishment is going to create a major problem," said Marina Ottaway, director of the Middle East program at the Washington-based Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "This is an agreement that risks making Sunnis and Kurds second-class citizens." Ahmed Chalabi, a prominent Shiite politician whose faulty intelligence was used by Washington to help justify the U.S.-led invasion, was one of the officials who signed the 11-point agreement. He played down any idea that this would amount to a religious stamp on government decisions, partly, he said, because the clerical leadership has already indicated their reluctance to play a big role in Iraqi politics. "It is an example of the level of respect that all these political parties and groups have for the marjaiyah," he said. "The marjaiyah doesn't want to get involved in this." Chalabi said Iraq's other political groups should be reassured by the fact that Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani — the revered Shiite cleric in Iraq who is essentially the head of the marjaiyah — has said no political groups should be excluded from the political process. Together the new Shiite alliance will have 159 seats, just four shy of the majority needed in the 325-member parliament to form a government. In an interview Wednesday, before the details of the agreement were revealed, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Hill maintained that "Sunnis have to be a part of the political process." "You cannot run Iraq without having significant Sunni participation," he told the AP. The dominant group under former leader Saddam Hussein, Iraq's Sunni Arabs have had little power since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion ushered in a succession of Shiite- and Kurdish-dominated governments. For years, Sunnis swelled the ranks of a powerful insurgency that threw the country into turmoil, and the fear is that alienating them from the political process now could start the fighting anew. Abdul-Ilah Kazim, a Sunni lawmaker with the Iraqiya list, rejected the political influence of the Shiite clerics in the new alliance. "There is a sectarian flavor to this one-sect agreement from start to finish and certainly all the world and Iraqi people will get its message," he said. The Kurdish bloc, which holds 43 seats in parliament, has — at least publicly — been cautious about joining the Shiite coalition, citing the need for a broader government. "As a Kurdish coalition, we are leaning toward forming a national unity government that includes all the main four winning blocs," said Fadhil Miran, an aide to Kurdish President Massoud Barzani. "We do not want a sectarian government, and we do not want the Iraqiya list to be excluded." Al-Sistani is the most revered religious figure among Shiites in Iraq — and many abroad — and while he usually works behind the scenes, he has played a major role in ensuring the unity and domination of the Shiites amid the turmoil after Saddam's fall. But he has also shunned a public role and he opposes an Iranian-style government that would give direct rule to clerics. The reference to clerics in the agreement was designed to give people in the new alliance a level of comfort that there was a higher authority to resolve disputes, Chalabi said. In fact, most of the provisions in the agreement appear designed to limit the power of the prime minister. The largest group within the Iraqi National Alliance, followers of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, want to scale back the powers al-Maliki has built up during his premiership. Those familiar with the meetings said many of the conditions came from the Sadrists, who were deeply unhappy with al-Maliki, who ordered a U.S.-Iraqi crackdown on Shiite militias in 2008. "We are trying to avoid the mistakes of the past that led to the collapse of the former coalition and that made some people make unilateral decisions regarding the country," explained Ameer Taher al-Kinani, a Sadrist official, in an apparent reference to al-Maliki. The provisions require the prime minister to consult on all decisions with members of the alliance and prohibit him from trying to form his own electoral list. Policy issues are also to be determined by committees from each of the Shiite blocs, further limiting the premier's role. By putting in writing the role of the marjaiyah, the agreement also sets up a higher authority to the prime minister. ___ Associated Press writers Paul Schemm and Lara Jakes contributed to this report. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/05/05/sunni-politician-warns-new-shiite-alliance-bring-iraqi-sectarian-conflict/

I just need to make this statement of clarification this is not a chat by "Riley" a member of this site. This is a chat by "Rilee that is a MOD/Administration on ANOTHER site. Just in case there was any confusion here as I got this question in the chatroom a little while ago. We do not allow these people to come HERE and make these predictions that is why all of these are posted as from ANOTHER site. Or should be posted clearly as from Another site.

I see our country slipping away from us quickly! And all because of a few socialistic liberals, who scream louder than anyone else.Why is it that they are getting their way? First and foremost it is prophetic biblically! The bible says we will end in a one world rule.We will actually have NO currency, but some sort of mark or chip, that enables us to buy or sell, and no one will be able to do so without the mark, which is the sign of the Devil.If we do not fight for what is our right now, and march with the tea partiers, and write our congress men and women with the understanding that we will not vote them in next go around if they do not start voting conservatively. It will continue on its spiraling path! It will happen either way, but think of our children, and them growing up in MEXICO, or even worse the ME!!!!! fighting, lying, stealing, killing. The timing is CRITICAL NOW!!! When we have a chance to speak out against what is happening to our country, we MUST take advantage of it!!!

Arizona State Senator Sylvia Allen. I'm Arizona State Senator Sylvia Allen. I want to explain SB 1070 which I voted for and was just signed by Governor Jan Brewer. Rancher Rob Krantz was murdered by the drug cartel on his ranch a month ago. I participated in a senate hearing two weeks ago on the border violence, here is just some of the highlights from those who testified. The people who live within 60 to 80 miles of the Arizona/Mexico Border have for years been terrorized and have pleaded for help to stop the daily invasion of humans who cross their property . One Rancher testified that 300 to 1200 people a DAY come across his ranch vandalizing his property, stealing his vehicles and property, cutting down his fences, and leaving trash. In the last two years he has found 17 dead bodies and two Koran bibles. Another rancher testified that daily drugs are brought across his ranch in a military operation. A point man with a machine gun goes in front, 1/2 mile behind are the guards fully armed, 1/2 mile behind them are the drugs, behind the drugs 1/2 mile are more guards. These people are violent and they will kill anyone who gets in the way. This was not the only rancher we heard that day that talked about the drug trains. One man told of two illegal's who came upon his property one shot in the back and the other in the arm by the drug runners who had forced them to carry the drugs and then shot them. Daily they listen to gun fire during the night it is not safe to leave his family alone on the ranch and they can't leave the ranch for fear of nothing being left when they come back. The border patrol is not on the border. They have set up 60 miles away with check points that do nothing to stop the invasion. They are not allowed to use force in stopping anyone who is entering. They run around chasing them, if they get their hands on them then they can take them back across the border. Federal prisons have over 35% illegal's and 20% of Arizona prisons are filled with illegal's. In the last few years 80% of our law enforcement that have been killed or wounded have been by an illegal. The majority of people coming now are people we need to be worried about. The ranchers told us that they have seen a change in the people coming they are not just those who are looking for work and a better life. The Federal Government has refused for years to do anything to help the border states . We have been over run and once they are here we have the burden of funding state services that they use. Education cost have been over a billion dollars. The healthcare cost billions of dollars. Our State is broke, $3.5 billion deficit and we have many serious decisions to make. One is that we do not have the money to care for any who are not here legally. It has to stop. The border can be secured. We have the technology we have the ability to stop this invasion. We must know who is coming and they must come in an organized manner legally so that we can assimilate them into our population and protect the sovereignty of our country. We are a nation of laws. We have a responsibility to protect our citizens and to protect the integrity of our country and the government which we live under. I would give amnesty today to many, but here is the problem, we dare not do this until the Border is secure. It will do no good to forgive them because thousands will come behind them and we will be over run to the point that there will no longer be the United States of America but a North American Union of open borders. I ask you what form of government will we live under? How long will it be before we will be just like Mexico , Canada or any of the other Central American or South American countries? We have already lost our language, everything must be printed in Spanish also. We have already lost our history it is no longer taught in our schools. And we have lost our borders. The leftist media has distorted what SB 1070 will do. It is not going to set up a Nazi Germany . Are you kidding. The ACLU and the leftist courts will do everything to protect those who are here illegally, but it was an effort to try and stop illegal's from setting up businesses, and employment, and receiving state services and give the ability to local law enforcement when there is probable cause like a traffic stop to determine if they are here legally. Federal law is very clear if you are here on a visa you must have your papers on you at all times. That is the law. In Arizona all you need to show you are a legal citizen is a driver license, MVD identification card, Native American Card, or a Military ID. This is what you need to vote, get a hunting license, etc.. So nothing new has been added to this law. No one is going to be stopped walking down the street etc... The Socialist who are in power in DC are angry because we dare try and do something and that something the Socialist wants us to do is just let them come. They want the "Transformation" to continue. Maybe it is too late to save America . Maybe we are not worthy of freedom anymore. But as an elected official I must try to do what I can to protect our Constitutional Republic . Living in America is not a right just because you can walk across the border. Being an American is a responsibility and it comes by respecting and upholding the Constitution the law of our land which says what you must do to be a citizen of this country. Freedom is not free.

Well Teresa I don't know for sure but if peanut butter came out that would mean you were nuts....right?

I asked Ronin for permission to post the chat and he agreed with the condition that I remove the dollar amount. It is a wonderful personal experience and I appreciate Ronin sharing this with us ... we can all learn a few tips from the adventure he and his father had. I love to hear about such wonderful things happening to others ... and I hope we all get to experience this with our dinars! Ronin and his dad took a chance then, just like we all are now! They didn't know how it would turn out and neither do we! But such things are possible! BTW ... I'm sorry I didn't clean up the chat to make it easier to read, but I didn't have much time this morning. luckylucy

Great post......makes one feel better about this roller coaster ride.