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[wavggg]

Do you really think that "O" made any decision in Iraq - OR "Bush I or II" They all dance to the tune of their puppetmasters. Look deeper.

[Weapon X]

You are exactly right WeaponX. This is the same point I've made several times before. Especially, when Obama keeps taking credit for 'ending the war as he promised'. He did try to extend our stay, but failed in negotiating the protections of our troops. He can't have it both ways. He can't take credit for the withdrawal and then when it falls apart, blame Bush. If he wants credit for the withdrawal, then he gets credit for the failure as well.

I have never seen him blame Bush, and neither am I. All I am doing is making a real statement with proof, Obama did not fail Iraq our departure was scheduled, the fact that the Iraqui GOI was not willing to give any troops immunity is not either presidents faults either.

[vjc]

The turkey will have to wait. The last of the aluminum foil is for me, a hat...

[truf]

Seriously, -6 for asking a question on here?

Some of you seriously need to get a life.

[HopeTas]

Obama did not decide to leave Iraq. He was forced to withdraw troops because Iraq would not give immunity to them any longer past Dec. 12. It was George W. Bush that set this date. Please, please read and listen to media that will inform you instead of these lies you spin. These are difficult times and we need a populace that has actually thought about and read about what is really going on. Those who watch Fox News actually are the least informed of those who watch the media. It is spin and propaganda much of the time trying to make us afraid so we will vote against our own best interest in favor of the 1% who have gained over 200% in income per year over the last 30 years. The reason our president has not been able to make much change is because people in the Congress held back that change. If you want to see the positive changes happen vote him in and a congress that supports his ideas so we no longer have this circus going on there with the Tea Party out. The party of "No" will not help us get to a better way of functioning in our nation that needs to pull together.

[KiaKaha]

But, wasn't it a democratic majority congress the first 2 years?

KK

[TPSprayduster]

Well the troops are out, no more reports of US troops in Iraq getting killed. For all of you arm chair quarterbacks who have never set foot in Iraq let you be first to tell the loved ones of the killed in combat if we had left earlier maybe their kin would not have been killed. Always someone saying this, saying that and never been in combat or supported the troops. When you can do that and say the troops should have never left or keep them in Iraq and be sent to a kangaroo court because of no immunity and sentence for some trump up charges. You would be the first to blame the president. Since that is not going to happen now, you have to find something to blame the administration about. Oh yes i will get negs for this but oh well. Osama died this year and not 2003.

I thought she was vacation, Merry Christmas to all

LOL, she negative me for saying merry Christmas. NC

[starlight]

I have thought almost from day 1 that O got as president to take this country down and he has pretty much succeeded. As the years went by bailout after unnecessary bailout put us into deep economic peril. I pray it is not too late to turns things around.

[vomer]

I have thought almost from day 1 that O got as president to take this country down and he has pretty much succeeded. As the years went by bailout after unnecessary bailout put us into deep economic peril. I pray it is not too late to turns things around.

Pharoah bin Obama wants another 1.2 trillion in stimulus by the way. Too much is never enough with that shithead.

[engineer1138]

So Obama haters A charge him with leaving Iraq while Obama haters B charge him with falsely taking any credit for getting us out as it was fully agreed to already and without a new agreement, that Iraq would not sign, he no choice in the matter. Come on folks, at least get your Obama rants in sync!

[GotSix]

So Obama haters A charge him with leaving Iraq while Obama haters B charge him with falsely taking any credit for getting us out as it was fully agreed to already and without a new agreement, that Iraq would not sign, he no choice in the matter. Come on folks, at least get your Obama rants in sync!

You're missing the point....a loser is a loser....whether we're an "A", "B", "C", "D",...etc:o

[reveldog]

So Obama haters A charge him with leaving Iraq while Obama haters B charge him with falsely taking any credit for getting us out as it was fully agreed to already and without a new agreement, that Iraq would not sign, he no choice in the matter. Come on folks, at least get your Obama rants in sync!

the guy has done nothing for this country , i mean nothing
is that in sync enough for you

[GotSix]

the guy has done nothing for this country , i mean nothing
is that in sync enough for you

The 'guy" I thought Michelle was

[Dreaminbig]

Obama haters will tag the man with ANYTHING even if the agreement was made before he got into office....sad...

[SGD]

Although the last election was bought...people can now see him for who he is, even the ones that voted for him. He won't make it. Look at what he has done (very little), more what he has undone.


The fact that Iraq would not allow immunity for our troops to me justifies not staying in Iraq.

They're all in this together. When President Obama walk alongside President Bush to the oval office, he was getting his instructions just like they all do. The presidents do not run this country.

the guy has done nothing for this country , i mean nothing
is that in sync enough for you

It's gonna take him more than four years to clean-up the mess that he walked into. No one else would have done any better!!

Edited by SGD, 30 December 2011 - 10:36 PM.

[PowerGeneration]

What worries me if Obama said I will RV the dinar if I am re-elected
what would we do then? I guess I would have to keep living off my
VA disability and that isnt much.I likey Ron Paul Perot.
dont hurt me to bad please

[Carrello]

I have thought almost from day 1 that O got as president to take this country down and he has pretty much succeeded. As the years went by bailout after unnecessary bailout put us into deep economic peril. I pray it is not too late to turns things around.

I HAVE NOT SEEN SO MUCH IGNORANCE IN ONE PLACE. STUNNING. STUNNING.

[engineer1138]

You're missing the point....a loser is a loser....whether we're an "A", "B", "C", "D",...etc:o

I think it is you who do not see the point. Both claims of why Obama is supposedly a loser wrt Iraq can not be true, yet his opponents believe both anyway. Thus clearly it is the opposition to him that came first. It isn't based on what he did or did not do in Iraq, since the claims are mutually exclusive.

What would you have had him do? Iraq has to take charge of itself and no amount of force would be able to push a western culture democracy onto them. They are going to have to sort it out mostly on their own. Had Iraq wanted us to stay and withdraw more slowly that might have been better (but hard to say), but they did not want to do that. It also is something we can not afford. We have plenty of forces in the area should something really catastrophic occur.

On a related topic: I think Obama should veto the defense bill that has the new Iran sanctions in it. Now is not the time to be provocative.

[Sal0525]

I agree, it is just so amazing how finally I get to see people with common sense speaking up and not letting the people who drank the Obama fault everything kool-aid. let's face it, if aliens invaded tomorrow, they would say Obama brought them here. If it were a Republican in office, they would rally around the flag.

I was in Baghdad during the worse of the rocket attacks and I for one am grateful we are out of there. If they want to kill each other then it is on them, we gave them the chance for a better opportunity.

And oh, if you don't like the democratically elected government here, get over it and stop telling all these stupid lies. Have some honor for once.

[E. 1999]

Obama did not decide to leave Iraq. He was forced to withdraw troops because Iraq would not give immunity to them any longer past Dec. 12. It was George W. Bush that set this date. Please, please read and listen to media that will inform you instead of these lies you spin. These are difficult times and we need a populace that has actually thought about and read about what is really going on. Those who watch Fox News actually are the least informed of those who watch the media. It is spin and propaganda much of the time trying to make us afraid so we will vote against our own best interest in favor of the 1% who have gained over 200% in income per year over the last 30 years. The reason our president has not been able to make much change is because people in the Congress held back that change. If you want to see the positive changes happen vote him in and a congress that supports his ideas so we no longer have this circus going on there with the Tea Party out. The party of "No" will not help us get to a better way of functioning in our nation that needs to pull together.

And Cnn is so much better why dont you get off the one sided couch and join the few who realize it is our gov as a whole that is f**king up our community not the republicans or the dems its all the top dogs competing against e ach other but who are for the same cause mo money mo money mo money (ohh and world dom).... so why dont you stop trying to blame a specific side and admit that both sides have done some of the most outrageous acts in the name of america freedom and u.s. aka Us the people...


sorry ive had a long night and dont mean to come off as being an arse but i had to speak my mind because noone els would cheers i just saw afroman in concert