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[amhvl]

I believe in visions, epiphanies and other types of divine guidence. I have experienced what I believe to be divine guidence at times, but not the same as you have shared. May the dream come true for you and our entire dinar family. Nothing is by chance…

[umbertino]

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That which I have said is the TRUTH.
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And I fully believe you in that it's your own Truth just for you and inside of you which doesn't have necessarily to fit into the general Reality.... I am sure you're being sincere.... Most likely it's your own Truth, though....We'll see in a few days ( or years since you didn't specify the year)

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I don't care if it's Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Krishna, Rama, Ahuru Mazda, Aphrodite, Venus, Apollo, Athena, Pluto, Poseidon, Dionysus, Bacchus, (my personal fav) Neptune, Zeus, Jupiter, Thor, Odin, Loki, or any of the thousands of other gods who have come and gone over the centuries...
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Something that has puzzled me always...With all those different Religions and Faiths existing on Planet Earth..... Is everyone belonging to a specific Religion (commanded by a specific God) really sure and convinced that when his earthly plane is over they then will surely go to their specific part/section/area of their Paradise ( or Hell, but some Religions do not contemplate that) just for the members of that religion only? Sounds complicated.

Edited by umbertino, 29 September 2011 - 09:10 AM.

[vern]

Their is ONLY 1 GOD-------The GOD of the Bible which is the GOD of Issac -Moses and Jacob-Abraham- is the GOD that says There are no other GOD,s before Him. This why when BAAL was set up HE destroyed it all and the People perished for lack of knowledge- I pray that this doesnt happen to you. I also pray that who ever reads this will Turn their hearts toward Home. The money is never the issue it is greed. If you make greed (and we never do) your master then you will find that it will consume you.If you make GOD your leader the GOD will control you and greed wont enter the picture becase you will have an understanding of what to do. Before you say i know what to do check yourself and dont say it lest you fall prey. If wealth is to be had count it all Blessings from GOD. Remember GOD will not be mocked.I have seen many times when people get wealth they get proud/boastful/arrogant/slothful/greedy- -- choose now says the Lord of HOSTS. GOD just wont be mocked .People have tried and well lets just say they arent around. This is no joke.I have seen and maybe you all have to.I read all of this with heavy heart because people will not listen.I choose to follow GOD He has never made me .I choose to because i have seen to many things to doubt Him and i want to be with Him. Ive seen to mant things in my time to know that There is a GOD. So i say this with the Respect it has to be given. I to have stepped on His toes in the past and i know what can happen as will people who have been sharpened up in life. I do say this in JEST. You may but not .I know HE loves me and i in the past have stepped on HIS toes as some of us have and we have been disaplined as we would our own children knowing that we love them. If we didnt we would be good parents. So share it with you all knowing someone will see it and know that they are ok.GOD will show the people whom HE loes and we cannot speak for HIM in that sense. But what we can do is show people what HE has done. I give all the GLORY for everything to him and the ones who know me ppersonally here ill Testify to the end. So please be careful and Dont get greedy and put HIM 1st.You know what?-We wont even think of this whe we see HiM.But when all of this goes down out there in Econmic Land some of you will curse the day you found this. But whatever you do -DO-NOT CURSE GOD. If and when this happens it will be because GOD gave it to you.Use it for His Glory . If you want proof of what happens to people who cursed GOD you only got to a BIBLE and His word will show you. GOD said to keep your eyes on ISREAL and H ewwould supply your needs. He siad and i have never seen in the Bible where He said that your wants will be looked after.WHY is that.Because -have you ever noticed that whenever you want something and you have the money to do it your PRIORITIES change. Blessings to you all-Pray for me on this journey also.I do pray for all involved here- We can chaange things but it will not lasy GOD can change things and ALL will last-Have Faith in GOD and watch what HE can do- Vern

[vern]

E-EDITED COPY----IT WOULD EDIT FOR ME SO I HAD TO DO THIS-WHEN I EDIT ICMES UO AND WONT ALLOW TO DO SO-PLEASE CHECK YHIS FEATURE OUT AND CORRECT IT PLEASE. i THANK YOU IN ADVANCE--vERN ------- Their is ONLY 1 GOD-------The GOD of the Bible which is the GOD of Issac -Moses and Jacob-Abraham- is the GOD that says There are no other GOD,s before Him. This is why when BAAL was set up HE destroyed it all and the People perished for lack of knowledge- I pray that this doesnt happen to you. I also pray that who ever reads this will Turn their hearts toward Home. The money is never the issue it is greed. If you make greed (and we never do) your master then you will find that it will consume you.If you make GOD your leader - GOD will show you and greed wont enter the picture because you will have an understanding of what to do. Before you say i know what to do- check yourself and dont say it lest you fall prey. If wealth is to be had -count it all Blessings from GOD. Remember GOD will not be mocked.I have seen many times when people get wealth they get proud/boastful/arrogant/slothful/greedy- -- choose now says the Lord of HOSTS. GOD just wont be mocked .People have tried and well lets just say they arent around. This is no joke.I have seen and maybe you all have to.I read all of this with heavy heart because people will not listen.I choose to follow GOD He has never made me .I choose to because i have seen to many things to doubt Him and i want to be with Him. Ive seen to many things in my time to know that There isnt a GOD. THERE IS A GOD-So i say this with the Respect it has to be given. I to have stepped on His toes in the past and i know what can happen as will people who have been sharpened up in life. I dont say this in JEST. .I know HE loves me and i in the past have stepped on HIS toes as some of us have and we have been disiplined as we would our own children knowing that we love them. If we didnt we wouldnt be good parents. So I share it with you all knowing someone will see it and know that they are ok.GOD will show the people whom HE loves and we cannot speak for HIM in that sense. But what we can do is show people what HE has done. I give all the GLORY for everything to him and the ones who know me personally here will Testify to the end. So please be careful and Dont get greedy -- put HIM 1st.You know what?-We wont even think of this when we see HiM.But when all of this goes down out there in Economic Land some of you will curse the day you found this. But whatever you do -DO-NOT CURSE GOD. If and when this happens -it will be because GOD gave it to you.Use it for His Glory . If you want proof of what happens to people who cursed GOD you only have to go a BIBLE and His word will show you. GOD said to keep your eyes on HIM and He would supply your needs. He said-- and i have never seen in the Bible where He said that your wants will be looked after.WHY is that.Because -have you ever noticed that whenever you want something and you have the money to do it your PRIORITIES change.? Blessings to you all-Pray for me on this journey also.I do pray for all involved here- We can change things but it will not last GOD can change things and ALL will last-Have Faith in GOD and watch what HE can do- Vern

I WROTE IT THIS WAY SO YOU WOULD CATCH THE RE-EDIT PART----TO THE MODS--I WROTE THIS WAY SO U WOOD CATCH THE REE-ED-IT PRT--THJX- VERN:)

[Legolas]

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That which I have said is the TRUTH.
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And I fully believe you in that it's your own Truth just for you and inside of you which doesn't have necessarily to fit into the general Reality.... I am sure you're being sincere.... Most likely it's your own Truth, though....We'll see in a few days ( or years since you didn't specify the year)

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I don't care if it's Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Krishna, Rama, Ahuru Mazda, Aphrodite, Venus, Apollo, Athena, Pluto, Poseidon, Dionysus, Bacchus, (my personal fav) Neptune, Zeus, Jupiter, Thor, Odin, Loki, or any of the thousands of other gods who have come and gone over the centuries...
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Something that has puzzled me always...With all those different Religions and Faiths existing on Planet Earth..... Is everyone belonging to a specific Religion (commanded by a specific God) really sure and convinced that when his earthly plane is over they then will surely go to their specific part/section/area of their Paradise ( or Hell, but some Religions do not contemplate that) just for the members of that religion only? Sounds complicated.

And it should puzzle everyone else as well Umbertino, but somehow people manage to get past the endless glaring discrepancies. Complicated is an understatement. With 226 different religions still remaining today, an intelligent person has to wonder "which" of the many remaining gods is the real one, and "which" of the many different bibles is the true and accurate word of the real god. Thousands have been dismissed over the centuries, yet many continue to survive. A rational person would wonder how it could be possible for so many variations, versions, contradicitons and opinions to exist. Wouldn't the real god have corrected all of the thousands of inaccuracies and confusion thousands of years ago? How many people have gone to "hell" for worshipping the wrong god, and how many millions have died defending their erroneous beliefs thru no fault of their own? They've only done what their parents, teachers and clergy have taught them to do. Seems unfair somehow. If only it were as simple as Vern makes it seem in his response above: "There is only ONE god, and he is the one "I" worship. The others are false, and THEIR bibles are in error. I'm right, so the rest are obviously wrong." Things that make you go "hmmmmm."

Edited by Legolas, 29 September 2011 - 10:31 AM.

[jgreene]

God just told me to repent of my sins and follow Jesus....He did not mention Dinar at all!!! The best RV will be a seat in Heaven when you leave Earth anyway....you spend 0-110 years on this Earth and eternity somewhere else....make sure you are prepared for the Real RV....you will kick yourself for missing out on that one....

[tombstone]

That's one thing... The other would be... How can this Person ( or anyone) be absolutely sure it's God talking to them and not just their inner voice or anything else......

It's seems he is just giving his personal insight and opinion and what he feels God has spoken to him. Wrong or right, I'm glad he took the time to try and encourage people here. As far as hearing God's voice, that's a deep one. I do know that it does happen but is hard sometimes to explain. When you're learning to hear God's voice you will miss it and many times confuse it with thoughts or who knows what. But after many times of hitting it I believe you do begin to hear the difference. Having said that, the problem I always have when someone does say 'God told me' is that it leaves you nowhere to go. The discussion ends. All you can really do is sit back and see if it was God. I think a better approach might be to say in all humility, 'Here's what I believe God told me...We'll see...'

[tarsi]

Umbertino to your question....
That's one thing... The other would be... How can this Person ( or anyone) be absolutely sure it's God talking to them and not just their inner voice or anything else......



Well if you are a child of God that inner voice you speak of is God, but you have to have a personal relationship with him to realize it, to those that don't it is foolishness to them, I ask you how do you know the voice of your earthly father versus anything or anyone else?

Edited by tarsi, 29 September 2011 - 11:21 AM.

[umbertino]

And it should puzzle everyone else as well Umbertino, but somehow people manage to get past the endless glaring discrepancies. Complicated is an understatement. With 226 different religions still remaining today, an intelligent person has to wonder "which" of the many remaining gods is the real one, and "which" of the many different bibles is the true and accurate word of the real god. Thousands have been dismissed over the centuries, yet many continue to survive. A rational person would wonder how it could be possible for so many variations, versions, contradicitons and opinions to exist. Wouldn't the real god have corrected all of the thousands of inaccuracies and confusion thousands of years ago? How many people have gone to "hell" for worshipping the wrong god, and how many millions have died defending their erroneous beliefs thru no fault of their own? They've only done what their parents, teachers and clergy have taught them to do. Seems unfair somehow. If only it were as simple as Vern makes it seem in his response above: "There is only ONE god, and he is the one "I" worship. The others are false, and THEIR bibles are in error. I'm right, so the rest are obviously wrong." Things that make you go "hmmmmm."

Great and sensible post ( as usual, my Friend)... Agreed all the way...

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I think a better approach might be to say in all humility, 'Here's what I believe God told me...We'll see...'
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Agreed.

[George Hayduke]

Beware of Yellow Pintos...


Reference a Chuck Smith sermon from the 70's, thus the 'Yellow Ford Pinto'. In that sermon Pastor Chuck spoke of our expectation of answered prayers. In his light hearted manner he illustrated how one might need transportation, so you prayed for transportation and you began to think of an automobile instead of public transportation. And instead of just any 'ol clunker to get you from A to B you then began to pray for the coolest car of the day; a Ford Pinto. But, not just a factory white Pinto, a bright YELLOW Pinto so everyone would see God had answered your prayers. And, as you began to pray and pray and pray in earnest you began to see yellow Pintos all over the place and faster than you could say Joel 2:28 you were down at the dealership signing on the bottom line. The next Sunday you found out that not only was your Yellow Pinto the only Pinto in the church parking lot, you were late for the sermon: Credit and the bondage of indebtedness...

...and no, I do not own a Yellow Pinto...

...but, did I buy a Yellow Basstracker once!

George

[Quietlearner]

Thirteen years ago i was given a promise by GOD by way of a dream, joseph in the bible also was given a promise by god and it also took him 13 years to receive the promise, and it is exactly 13 years ago that i was given my promise in a dream .

Before i had my dream, i was given a prophecy the year before that i would have 3 dreams and they would be gods will for my life. Then i had three dreams in a one week period , two of those dreams have already come to pass, just like i dreamed.

The only dream left to come to pass involves me getting much wealth in the month of october. in the dream i was to be in a certain country, I am there now, i was also to be at a certain address, I am there now, the address was on a certain side of the street, and i am at that exact address, i dreamed 13 years, ago..

I had no plans of moving to this country let a lone this address, when i had this dream , but i am there now.

So all i await for now is october and me receiving this great wealth.

If i receive this wealth from some other source other then iraq rv, then this rv can take longer to come, but if this rv is going to be the tool god uses to bless me with this wealth , then it can only happen in the month of october, no other month , but OCTOBER. And if i am not to be like joseph and get my blessing after a 13 year wait, then you all can forget about getting this rv this year, because we would have a whole year again to wait and god forbid that be the case.

So here is to october 2011 being the year this promise which god gave me finally comming to fruition.

Hi Blessed2bless,
Just wondering since the Divine Dream was so vivid you were able to see the address you were going to live at, did you by chance glimpse a calender or clock. You knew what the date to exact thirteenth year to the fulfillment of this most divine intervention thought if there was that type of clarity you would have a date and rate to boot.
Hope it comes true for you and all involved, however, I would hope that you wouldn't subscribe or ask others to subscribe to the idea that if your premonition turns from Divine to a bad trip from the sixties, there would be no chance for RV, as that would be a falsity in itself.
Respectfully,
Quietlearner

[willy1der]

So when it happens finally are we supposed to shout "SHUKRAN"?

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You just know I know that it may sound nuts to some, but the feeling you get when God is working in you, or talking to you is indescribable. You just know.
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I see. Ok.

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John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: When you tell me that you are a christian I believe that you believe the Bible is the "Word of God". So then I assume you don't have a hard time understanding His word. Don't make it difficult, practice His presence. As we go through the day communicating with God and God communicating with us we will recognize His voice. It's like any other relationship, the more time you spend with someone the easier to recognize them. If you're not sure then lay your fleece out as Gideon in the Old testament, and as you do this and God confirms his word with you this will enable you to recognize his voice. It's not a hard thing to do.
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I respect your opinion but do not share it.

It's not my opinion. I shared the word of God with you. But here's the important thing with this discussion, if we can't agree on what we will use as our authority we cannot reach a conclusion supported by our authority. It's your opinion in this case and the word of God that I bring to the table. Debating any topic without an agreement as to what will be used as the ultimate authority to prove our point to one another is futile. Having said that I reference God's word (christian bible) as my athority. I'm not sure what you use but it's a mute point now.

[Francie26]

The amazing thing is the Universal need for all human beings to turn to the God he/she has come to believe in. Throughout all of time and space, only humans living on our little miracle planet, Earth, can think, reason, and feel an inner need so deep that we turn to a creator to answer the unanswerable questions we sense. Deciding not to believe in God is just a decision, but becoming aware of the God we always knew was there is instinctive. No one has to tell us of God for us to know there is a god. Such knowledge is innate. And that may be our answer about why we believe in God--because we were born with an innate knowledge of Him.

[F-16Pilot]

The amazing thing is the Universal need for all human beings to turn to the God he/she has come to believe in. Throughout all of time and space, only humans living on our little miracle planet, Earth, can think, reason, and feel an inner need so deep that we turn to a creator to answer the unanswerable questions we sense. Deciding not to believe in God is just a decision, but becoming aware of the God we always knew was there is instinctive. No one has to tell us of God for us to know there is a god. Such knowledge is innate. And that may be our answer about why we believe in God--because we were born with an innate knowledge of Him.

Somebody has been reading C.S. Lewis...

[Dysan23]

I do believe in God but sorry to say this story does not sound believeable. JMO. Maybe I have heard too many pumpers using God this way.

When are you going to step up to the gsxr750 or 1000... 600 is for high school kids....

[VanessaL4100]

Thank you for sharing your story, blessed.

[NotAChance]

So what are we to conclude when this dream doesn't come true? Should our faith in God be diminished? Or should we just consider you another false profit that is smiting God and bearing false witness?

[Miss Peg]

And why would "god" talk to you?

God desires to "speak" to all of his children and does on a continual basis.It's thru our own ignorance that we don't take the time to "listen"

[zigmeister]

Sometimes, the inner voice IS God. And if you believe, "Ask and ye shall receive," apparently you are referrencing one specific God, since you are quoting from His literature, not that of the other gods listed above.

Now I understand why when I have asked to recieve, and I did not. The God's did not know which one I was talking to!

[umbertino]

God just told me to repent of my sins and follow Jesus....He did not mention Dinar at all!!! The best RV will be a seat in Heaven when you leave Earth anyway....you spend 0-110 years on this Earth and eternity somewhere else....make sure you are prepared for the Real RV....you will kick yourself for missing out on that one....

I respect your thought about this matter but I find it highly debatable as there's zero certainty.....Just like the Dinar RV .... We will only find out when it happens ( leaving this earthly plane) ..And only then... If you're right then I'll gladly and fairly admit you were....