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Joseph Stalin made a comment to his countryman on America's freedoms and its greatness. America is like a healthy body and its resistance is three fold: It is patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we undermine these areas over a period of time the great country of America will collapse from within.

When i ran across this article it hit me like a ton of bricks. Looking at how our country is engulfed in the different distructive things going on right now and comparing it to what this man said decades ago it is scary. Our country has got to find a way to get a grip on its internal affairs or this may just be not to far in the future..........Heavyduty053

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Joseph Stalin made a comment to his countryman on America's freedoms and its greatness. America is like a healthy body and its resistance is three fold: It is patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we undermine these areas over a period of time the great country of America will collapse from within.

Heavy, thanks for the post...it is so true...we are destroying ourselves from within...a great fall is coming unless we turn back to the morals of days gone by...

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Joseph Stalin made a comment to his countryman on America's freedoms and its greatness. America is like a healthy body and its resistance is three fold: It is patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we undermine these areas over a period of time the great country of America will collapse from within.

When i ran across this article it hit me like a ton of bricks. Looking at how our country is engulfed in the different distructive things going on right now and comparing it to what this man said decades ago it is scary. Our country has got to find a way to get a grip on its internal affairs or this may just be not to far in the future..........Heavyduty053

I been telling people for many years that jewish communism has infiltrated the US Government just like they did in Russia. America is one step away from a full blow communist police state ruled by jews. The jews control the mainstream media, hollywood, wall street, banking, porn industry, alcohol industry, abortion industry, open american borders, and now they are controlling the US Government, and working on implementing their communist police state just like they had in Russia. Anybody that don't agree with that, then they need to do some hard research, because it's true. Google it up, and start researching because it's facts.

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I been telling people for many years that jewish communism has infiltrated the US Government just like they did in Russia. America is one step away from a full blow communist police state ruled by jews. The jews control the mainstream media, hollywood, wall street, banking, porn industry, alcohol industry, abortion industry, open american borders, and now they are controlling the US Government, and working on implementing their communist police state just like they had in Russia. Anybody that don't agree with that, then they need to do some hard research, because it's true. Google it up, and start researching because it's facts.

One thing this country has that people in communist states lack...! the right to bear arms and the PATRIOTISM that goes with it. I believe there are enough Americans out there that will stand up and fight before they see this country devoured by the Marxists out there. People are taking names!! Lets hope 2012 will be the final chapter and vote these MORONS out of office.

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The tyrants within the US Government, Homeland Security, and Fema are placing colored dots on patriots mailboxes, so when martial law is declared to bring in their full blown communist police state, they will know who get's rounded up.

http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/109/406/FEMA_Color_Code_List_For_Civilians_-_Color_Dots_On_Mailboxes.html

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From a 1944 Norman Thomas speech:

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism.

But, under the name of “liberalism”,

they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program,

until one day America will be a socialist nation,

without knowing how it happened.”

“I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party.

The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/05/12/norman-thomas-socialist-party-of-america-leading-american-socialist-liberalism-presidential-candidate-democratic-party-has-adopted-our-platform/

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From a 1944 Norman Thomas speech:

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism.

But, under the name of “liberalism”,

they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program,

until one day America will be a socialist nation,

without knowing how it happened.”

“I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party.

The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/05/12/norman-thomas-socialist-party-of-america-leading-american-socialist-liberalism-presidential-candidate-democratic-party-has-adopted-our-platform/

The best thing that has ever happened to this country in modern history is when Obama got elected. His election woke up the masses and a sleeping giant. What the Marxists are trying to do to this country will not go much further. IMO a catharsis in both parties will occur in 2012 the likes of which we have never seen nor will see again for quite awhile!

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"Government growing beyond our consent had become a lumbering giant, slamming shut the gates of opportunity, threatening to crush the very roots of our freedom. What brought America back? The American people brought us back -- with quiet courage and common sense; with undying faith that in this nation under God the future will be ours, for the future belongs to the free."

Ronald Reagan - February 4, 1986 -- from the State of the Union Address

Let's win one for the Gipper!!!!!

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"Government growing beyond our consent had become a lumbering giant, slamming shut the gates of opportunity, threatening to crush the very roots of our freedom. What brought America back? The American people brought us back -- with quiet courage and common sense; with undying faith that in this nation under God the future will be ours, for the future belongs to the free."

Ronald Reagan - February 4, 1986 -- from the State of the Union Address

Let's win one for the Gipper!!!!!

We will my friend..., we will!

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America became great because capitalism and the free market rewards individuals for taking risks (along with working hard) and rewardings them if they were successful. Socialism and all the other "ism", take away the incentive to take risks...because the sweat of your brow and the corresponding success goes to someone else that isn't willing to take risks and/or work hard.

Like the Buffett proposed tax. Why do we feel the need to pile on the taxes on our capitalistic geniuses?! Think about it...what are Buffett and Gates doing with their money at the end of the day...they are giving it to charities...ones that are well thought out. What do you bet that that money goes to a better use than some crack heads on welfare.

Sorry...just venting a bit.

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The truth is out there if you just look for instance PER THE US TREASURY here is the TRUE breakdown of the Percentage(%) of increase in Public Debt by our Presidents from Reagan To Obama:

Ronald Reagan- 1/1981-1/1989 Total Public Debt Increase - 189%

G W Bush - 1/1989- 1/ 1993 Total Public Debt Increase - 55%

Bill Clinton- 1/1993- 1/2001 Total Public Debt Increase - 37%

George Bush Jr. - 1/ 2001 - 2/2009 Total Public Debt Increase - 115%

Barack Obama - 1/2009 - 4/2011 Total Public Debt Increase - 16%

So you want to win one for the Gipper I can see why we are in the position we are today, you guys say numbers don't lie well here you go and don't take my word for it do the research yourself, and stop believing all this hocus pocus you're being fed and get the truth, might hurt a little though.

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Joseph Stalin made a comment to his countryman on America's freedoms and its greatness. America is like a healthy body and its resistance is three fold: It is patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we undermine these areas over a period of time the great country of America will collapse from within.

When i ran across this article it hit me like a ton of bricks. Looking at how our country is engulfed in the different distructive things going on right now and comparing it to what this man said decades ago it is scary. Our country has got to find a way to get a grip on its internal affairs or this may just be not to far in the future..........Heavyduty053

You take this man's premonitions or observations too lightly? Did he say this because of American's arrogance in the early 1900s? His words should tell you what he saw then and at that time.

You know the folks that ruled during that period of time...

Let's take a quick look at Social Security (mind the word "social", kinda like a socialism act):

The Act is formally cited as the Social Security Act, ch. 531, 49 Stat. 620, now codified as 42 U.S.C. ch.7. The Act provided benefits to retirees and the unemployed, and a lump-sum benefit at death. Payments to current retirees are financed by a payroll tax on current workers' wages, half directly as a payroll tax and half paid by the employer.

Social Security was controversial when originally proposed, with one point of opposition being that it would allegedly cause a loss of jobs.

Initial opposition: Most women and minorities were excluded from the benefits of unemployment insurance and old age pensions. Employment definitions reflected typical white male categories and patterns.[13] Job categories that were not covered by the act included workers in agricultural labor, domestic service, government employees, and many teachers, nurses, hospital employees, librarians, and social workers.

Constitution has been challenged or changed many times.

Debates on the constitutionality of the Act

On February 5, 1937, Roosevelt sent a special message to Congress proposing legislation granting the President new powers to add additional judges to all federal courts whenever there were sitting judges age 70 or older who refused to retire.[22] The practical effect of this proposal was that the President would get to appoint six new Justices to the Supreme Court (and 44 judges to lower federal courts), thus instantly tipping the political balance on the Court dramatically in his favor. The debate on this proposal was heated and widespread, and lasted over six months.

The term Social Security covered unemployment, in everyday speech, it's used to refer only to the benefits for retirement, disability, survivorship, and death, which are the four main benefits provided by traditional private-sector pension plans. In 2004 the U.S. Social Security system paid out almost $500 billion in benefits.

You can read more about it and realize that nothing has changed in our country - from our leaders. Only technology and education...

Our seniors depend on it!

In other words, social programs has benefited our seniors and separated us from third world countries. Sure there's some pain with social systems but we should be able to fix them!

So many people moaning about irrelevant things - mostly an attempt to get people riled - and the people on this forum don't even know why they do it. Just carrying on the extreme right agenda.

No need to shine a light on a communist leader from the early 20th century.

America is NOT changing its arrogant ways folks!

From a 1944 Norman Thomas speech:

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism.

But, under the name of “liberalism”,

they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program,

until one day America will be a socialist nation,

without knowing how it happened.”

“I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party.

The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/05/12/norman-thomas-socialist-party-of-america-leading-american-socialist-liberalism-presidential-candidate-democratic-party-has-adopted-our-platform/

Some forms already adopted... we forget.

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Fancy but no merit... not only speculations but exaggerations. That's what the right wing is saying - but that doesn't make the projections accurate. Some spending is projected from money already being spent on taxes... there just adding it again and again - like there's no savings :) If you don't know I can't teach you.

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So now what was that speed from the 1900's when they were riding horse and buggy, oh crap my speed ometer stuck I'm really driving 70 but my speedometer says 55,................Lol give me a break you have got to be kidding me this is the problem with the O bashers they can never ever come up with real tangeble evidence, they always produce these horse and pony shows of nothing but made up rehetoric, that has not 1 once of proof(real proof) only someone's personal opionon some guy sitting in his parents basement playing dungeons and dragons, anyway like mentioned before numbers don't lie: Real numbers that is SEE BELOW

The truth is out there if you just look for instance PER THE US TREASURY here is the TRUE breakdown of the Percentage(%) of increase in Public Debt by our Presidents from Reagan To Obama:

Ronald Reagan- 1/1981-1/1989 Total Public Debt Increase - 189%

G W Bush - 1/1989- 1/ 1993 Total Public Debt Increase - 55%

Bill Clinton- 1/1993- 1/2001 Total Public Debt Increase - 37%

George Bush Jr. - 1/ 2001 - 2/2009 Total Public Debt Increase - 115%

Barack Obama - 1/2009 - 4/2011 Total Public Debt Increase - 16%

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=post&section=post&do=reply_post&f=7&t=85731#ixzz1ZJBeiJWF

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The truth is out there if you just look for instance PER THE US TREASURY here is the TRUE breakdown of the Percentage(%) of increase in Public Debt by our Presidents from Reagan To Obama:

Ronald Reagan- 1/1981-1/1989 Total Public Debt Increase - 189%

G W Bush - 1/1989- 1/ 1993 Total Public Debt Increase - 55%

Bill Clinton- 1/1993- 1/2001 Total Public Debt Increase - 37%

George Bush Jr. - 1/ 2001 - 2/2009 Total Public Debt Increase - 115%

Barack Obama - 1/2009 - 4/2011 Total Public Debt Increase - 16%

So you want to win one for the Gipper I can see why we are in the position we are today, you guys say numbers don't lie well here you go and don't take my word for it do the research yourself, and stop believing all this hocus pocus you're being fed and get the truth, might hurt a little though. When you list a % please put % of what number, back then the numbers were MUCH LOWER!!! GET FOR REAL!!!

Your percentages are decieving to say the least, if you put this is $$$ OBAMA exceeds everyone by far and YOU know it!, you need to look at the DOLLAR amounts and pay better attention to the MONEY!!!

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How are they deciving they are what they are nothing decieving about it would you say 250,000 people are homeless but if 1/4 of a million are homeless whats decieving about it the way you choose to hear it or because you already have a percieved perseption in your heart and just refuse to see the truth?

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Fancy but no merit... not only speculations but exaggerations. That's what the right wing is saying - but that doesn't make the projections accurate. Some spending is projected from money already being spent on taxes... there just adding it again and again - like there's no savings :) If you don't know I can't teach you.

No worrieies Mojack, others have posted inaccurate crap that they have found on some Liberal website and besides, I don't need teachings from a Liberal Socialist anyway. Liberal Socialist are killing this country. It has been proven over and over that the Progressive Liberals are against this countries founding and there is no sense in trying to prove otherwise. Like the heading of this thread says, Stalin said, we would self destruct from within and you are the type he was speaking of that will help this happen. If I'm wrong, then why does your type still support Obama? Obama is absolutely against America's founding and against the Constitution, as an accurate account of history will reflect. He is and will be the worst President in American History. Don't take my word for it, just wait and see how bad Obama loses the next election, even with the Liberal Lame Stream Media on his side. True Americans have awakened and the proof will be seen in time.

Mojack, I do realize you are an intelligent person, I have read your post in many subjects. I just find it sad that you are not on the side of the True Americans. Obama is a travesty and it is so apparent, yet some, like you, will still try to defend him. He is indefensible, unless you are defined a Socialist, Marxist or Communist.

I would not defend Bush's spending nor any other President of late. The problem is with all Presidents in the recent past. But Americans have awakened and this problem should come to a halt shortly. Although I voted for Bush, I was critical of his ways and he pissed me off, I was critical of him, because I could see the writing on the wall, which is something lacking of Obama supporters.

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