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#141 bsme123

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 12:40 PM

It seems to me like you have glued yourself to some religions dogma, which if it works for you then fine. Have you ever read any other religious scripture or are you only limiting yourself to one book? "If you want to understand the enemy, you must study and learn from the enemy...Otherwise you don't belong anywhere near the battle field." - William Cooper. In my opinion once you transcend this whole evil-good paradigm, you begin to see there is no "us" and "them". There is only us. Again, out of respect for each other, and the opinions of others, lets just agree to disagree on this topic and move on.


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You had me up until here. The blood of Yeshua is not religious dogma, while you know much about many things, you know nothing about Divine Law, now your pushing New Age Ridiculousness.."..there is no US and Them", only exposes YOU!

Bill Deagle, I have to tell you its very important is not right. The only way to be saved and for God to hear our prayers is through Jesus Christ only. God does not hear our prayers except through Jesus Christ. Its in the Bible and the New Age has taken over the truth and this is the big lie. John 14:6 "King James Bible
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."




The reality is that the only way to truly remove these real to life demons is by the power of the Holy Spirit and Blood of Jesus; to invoke your authority. One must be born again of God; and then can these demons be dealt with. However, if you run across a "strong man" of the host or legions of these demons, only by Prayer and fasting can these kind be removed.



AMEN BROTHER!
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#142 tired_of_waiting

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 12:47 PM

Chooch, I will revisit this thread in about a week too see if you are telling people about the Anawaki from the plant Niberu who inhabit the dark side of the moon. LOL :huh: :unsure: :o B)
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#143 chocolate1

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 03:51 PM

[quote name='NonLinear' date='13 August 2011 - 09:28 AM' timestamp='1313249298' post='620729']
Yes, there exist varied 'levels' of 'energetic parasites' which, in turn, via the human host, will create their own level/intensity of 'chaos/mischief...' on this 3rd dimensional plane which they otherwise would not have access to unless INVITED through invocations/chants/spells/thoughts thus creating these 'portals'.



NonLinear/Thomas Gimball: How does one exorcise those entities out of one's own body, when a competent exorciser is not available to do it for you?

I know the Lord told the Disciples, "this kind goeth not out except through fasting and prayer", in response to when the disciples could all of a sudden not seem to cast a demon out of a child (they needed to go back to the 'board' if you will, and by prayer and fasting, 'access' more vehement power) . But would that also work if i were to pray and fast for myself, meaning, at some point during my fasting and prayer (intense, im sure and not just some willy-nilly fasting and prayer afternoon) command them to leave me my Soul or would they leave on their own after, lets say, seven (7) days of the prayer and fasting?

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 04:39 PM

Just to let you know....the King James Bible is the inerrant word of God. All versions after the 1611 KJV have been altered. The two that did it was Westcott and Hort, Masons and Warlocks (literally) from 1875 to 1890's finishing the first version of the new ones to follow. Most all of them is also based on the heretical Latin Vulgate based on Origen's re-translation of the real scriptures from Antioch.



I agree with you 100%, brother! After reading and rereading the New and Old Testament--I cannot believe that God would allow some adulterated, fake and forged Word to represent who He to a lost and dying world! If that were the case, then we would have the most justifiable excuse on THAT DAY to use for Him to let us into His Kingdom!

"After all God, your word was altered, faked, forged, misinterpreted, copied and pasted and downloaded and reconstructed together by so many so many times that it was just not my fault for not getting to know who you are and what your expectations were of me or how to live like you wanted me to..."

:lol:

Agreed x 10! Take a few hours and read MUCH more of the 'story' from a VERY different point of view! It will be FUN!

"We are the fruit of complex interactions with extraterrestrial entities that we have long taken for the "Gods". Far from the paradigms of Darwinism and creationism, Parks proposes an exogenesis of humanity based on the decryption of great fundamental myths, but also on Sumerian and biblical texts. A fascinating voyage to our ultimate origins."


'IN-JOY'! :D


...oh no, now this is starting to get weird...please do not lose us, nonlinear! : ) I thought for a minute you were totally convinced that Jesus is The Way, The Truth and The Life and that you believed that, " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." John 1: 1-3 KJV
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 04:59 PM

T Gambill I am trying to respect your rights and the right of every-one but guess what bud - attack Christianity & Freemasons and you will reap what you sew :angry:
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 05:37 PM

I agree with you 100%, brother! After reading and rereading the New and Old Testament--I cannot believe that God would allow some adulterated, fake and forged Word to represent who He to a lost and dying world! If that were the case, then we would have the most justifiable excuse on THAT DAY to use for Him to let us into His Kingdom!

"After all God, your word was altered, faked, forged, misinterpreted, copied and pasted and downloaded and reconstructed together by so many so many times that it was just not my fault for not getting to know who you are and what your expectations were of me or how to live like you wanted me to..."

:lol:



...oh no, now this is starting to get weird...please do not lose us, nonlinear! : ) I thought for a minute you were totally convinced that Jesus is The Way, The Truth and The Life and that you believed that, " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." John 1: 1-3 KJV


No worries! He was the 'way-shower' for me WAY back! He STILL is! I still love to read and correlate information though! I will share some of my experiences along this path as we go along!

The Urantia book is actually quite a good read relative to Him! I suggest you check it out!

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 05:55 PM

Chocolate! This is for you!

Good question! Actually, I have quite a bit of first hand experience in detoxification and fasting for health and spiritual reasons. We did this in a clinical setting and worked with many hundreds of people. Most people did it for health reasons with superb results. The spiritual aspect would naturally take place after a while! The process itself is quite simple even for people that have never tried it.

To begin, we would have people eat raw fruit in the morning to start cleaning out the gastrointestinal tract. Fresh cut pineapple is an 'aggressive' fruit. Raw apples, bananas and grapes are great. Bananas are VERY filling. People could eat as much as they wanted to satisfy their hunger. It was not necessary to eat it all in one sitting. They could eat fruit all morning.

Lunch would be lightly steamed vegie's. No potatoes. Squash, carrots, zucchini and whatever veggies they liked. A little organic butter, extra virgin olive oil or avocado. No salt or pepper. It would take some people awhile to acclimate to getting used to unseasoned veggies yet most developed a taste for them. Most of their palates had been accustomed to eating highly seasoned cooked foods with MSG yet after a while, depending on the individual, their palates became acclimated to tasting the food itself and they developed a taste for them.

For dinner, a large raw salad along with protein. Some people had been accustomed to eating meat at dinner and for them, we would have them start cutting back on eating it every night. Maybe 3 times a week until they were able to overcome the feeling that they needed it. Steamed fish or shrimp after a would be introduced instead of meat. A couple of hard boiled eggs in the salad in place of meat or fish. The most important part of the evening meal would be the salad. The bigger the better!

If they became hungry before bed - fruit. The last thing we want to do is go to bed with a full stomach! Your body, while sleeping is cleansing and with a full stomach, it cannot do the cleansing because it would be trying to digest and assimilate.

No bread, dairy, pasta, rice or potatoes at any meal. We had a number of unhealthy macrobiotic people come to us. This program took care of most of their issues. We did not get any support from the gurus in the macrobiotic camp for obvious reasons yet they could not discount the results of their followers!

I should also mention that we had many religious denominations come to us. Usually just one would venture in and then we would end up with many more from their community come to us after they saw how their friend[s]had been helped. I received quite a bit of flack from some of the leaders because their diets, depending on the denomination, would have a certain food they used alot of. Dairy, sugar, ALL cooked foods, grains... An over consumption of one food and health problems usually occur.

Remember, this was a transitional period to get their body READY for fasting! We never just fasted someone right away. The amount of garbage that would come out of them would be too much for them. By the time we went through the transitional phase, they were already feeling MUCH better so they were excited to got to the next 'level'! They WANTED to continue!

I am going to post this and then come back and give you some suggestions for the next step. The next step is the fun part! It may be a couple hours yet I will return!

In Joy! :D
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#148 Chooch

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 06:28 PM

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You had me up until here. The blood of Yeshua is not religious dogma, while you know much about many things, you know nothing about Divine Law, now your pushing New Age Ridiculousness.."..there is no US and Them", only exposes YOU!




AMEN BROTHER!


Not sure where you get the New Age stuff from. The basic principles of new age theory is that WE are all GODS. I fundamentally disagree with this, so no.... no new age here. That would be like calling me a Muslim event though I don't believe in Mohammad. Do you see your ignorance? Do you really know what the new age belief is? Have you even studied what you are talking about? By the way there never was a man that incarnated here on earth as the son of god named "Jesus," and wanted to be worshipped or have a religion created around him. The man's name from all evidence I have seen indicates his name was "Jeshua" (of course there are other variations of this spelling including Jehova, or Yehova etc). I do not believe in symantics in this case... so we should have his name right shouldn't we? Not getting the name right in itself can offend some very devout Christians. And yes I know quite alot about divine law or natural law, or cosmic universal law. It appears to me you are speaking in a contact of "divine law" or "cannon law." No sir.... absolutely incorrect. Cannon law (although it controls the world) is most certainly not divine, nor is the Pope, aka Vicar of Lucifer. If this offends... sorry. And no... Jeshua or lets just call him the Christ, would never want you to "bath" in his blood. Blood is used in ritual witchcraft and satanism... and there is no evidence that I have ever encountered that indicates that the Christ's blood is to be revered or metaphorically consumed during mass worship. This ritual is 100% pagan and thousands of years older then Jeshua. If you just used the blood description as an example of explaining the Christ's selfless act of self sacrifice for the rest of us, then yes... I agree 100% with you. But I don't expect you to research any of this on your own and draw your own conclusions. You just believe what you were raised to belive, or what you were told to believe by somebody, thus giving away your energy. It is definitely easier just to believe whatever the "hive" mind programs you to believe. And perhaps you didn't understand the whole US/Them example I gave... so I will try to simplify it. You have the creator (Yahweh) and you have the created (us and everything else). The error or illusion is that we are seperate from everything and the creator. This just isn't true, the creator is with everyone and everything ALL THE TIME. Get it? The Christ taught that we should take responsibility for ourselves and our actions. He taught to love yourself, your enemy, and your neighbor or "the way," as it was labled then. If you want to get right down to the meat of it, NOWHERE does it suggest that Christ even dictated that the "Father" or God should be worshipped. He preached love.... and what better way can you love somebody then to appreciate them and their creation as opposed to desecrating it and turning the earth into a cess pool. Christ got down on his knees and cleaned the feet of his loyal 12... I humbly get down on my knees and clean your feet, because that is what the Christ would do. Now back to the dinar.....
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 06:56 PM

Chooch, I will revisit this thread in about a week too see if you are telling people about the Anawaki from the plant Niberu who inhabit the dark side of the moon. LOL :huh: :unsure: :o B)

WOW what a topic! I don't know how... I am getting bashed already and being called a New Ager by people that don't even know what New Agers believe! ... ohh well.. I seem to be pissing people off today, so why stop. YES FRIENDS, the moon is inhabited! Again, I don't know what label to put on them... I suppose we can call them the Annunaki from the Sumerian cylinders. I am only confident to say the moon is inhabited by "regressives" that do not have man's best interest at heart, and they have been there for a very long time. Richard Hogland does an ok job with exposing the lunar BS, but he seems deceptive to me about some things. Alex Collier has a great expose' about the moon and its inhabitants, which include high ranking folks from the Illuminati. One of my favorites though is John Lear... he incorporates some of his own theory, which I find mind numbing. Suffices to say though, NASA ain't telling the truth about much these days, especially that the moon is an artificeal satellite, and not indigenous to our solar system. You want to have a fun conversation,,,, find an astrophysicist that works for NASA and go up to him demanding to know why they don't tell us this stuff and watch him turn white! There is so much I am not sure about though with regard to the moon because I have read alot of "wayyyyyy out there" stuff. But I can also state confidently MARS was and is presently "OCCUPIED" as well. Supposedly we even have around half a million people living there now... this I can't confirm, but correlates with other info I heard/read. Again, I know these beings claim to be under the umbrella of "THE ORION EMPIRE." I of coures don't know... I never seen or spoken to one of them :D so I just call them regressives. Your guess is as good as mine though with what happens... I guess we just sit back with some popcorn and wait to see.

Check the Bloodlines between Adam and Cain to see how the seed of the serpent survived the flood,and carefully read Genisis again to understand how this is still going on to this day.

YES I agree... This for me is just not possible because I can only assume Cain's bloodline is that of Lucifer, and passes to the Illuminati. Can anyone contribute here?
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 07:10 PM

Hi Chooch, I am reading your tread, and I am mesmerazid.
So much to learn, so little time. Thank you for all the info you share here, with us who are open to learn!!!
You were an inspiration for my tread that I started and I blamed to be witch:) doesn't botter me at all, knowing most of people here been no where else but in their little town where they were born, and their town library didn't have much inventory of all the books and literature were being publishd!
I have so many questions, but I wanted to to say thanks first beforw I bombard you with questions.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 07:11 PM

Fascinating thread. Thanks to everyone for your input. And civil too.... imagine that. :D

I'm taking names, and kicking....Google searches. :lol:

I've already read a ton of many of these topics, but am finding new sources thanks to many of you.

On to more reading...!

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Edited by BlueOrchid919, 14 August 2011 - 07:12 PM.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 07:30 PM

I guess many of you can believe the rumors posted on here, after all you believe in God and that is a rumor...still waiting to be proven true.


For you that might not be until Christ returns. Then every knee will bow and confess Him as Lord.
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 07:36 PM

T Gambill I am trying to respect your rights and the right of every-one but guess what bud - attack Christianity & Freemasons and you will reap what you sew :angry:



Christianity has been in totally infiltrated by Word Faith, The Illuminati Charismatic movement, and Prosperity movement. All of TBN are either masons or Jesuits proven heretics. They twist the scriptures like a worm on a hot plate. What do you people think The Bible means when God says, 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition" the New Age emerging Church will destroy the Roman Catholic doctrine and all other religions in due time and this includes Islam as all others. FACT!!!!!

So, Bud you best wake up to the reality of Lucifers plan and read the definition when it says, "the church will fall away" All religion is bunk. Jesus did not bring religion to mankind. He brought us Salvation, and redemption. His true Holy Words are contained in the KING JAMES BIBLE only as evidence confirms. All the Bibles after 1890, have come from the corrupted Latin Vulgate, and purposely corrupted by Westcott and Hort, two Freemasons and literally two warlocks. All Bibles except for the KJV is corrupt. THE NIV is the worse. Owned by Rupert Murdock and he also owns the copyright of Satan's Bible and his pastor is the heretic Rick Warren , Self professed member of the Illuminati CFR. Its a Satanic cocktail.
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 07:44 PM

I agree with you 100%, brother! After reading and rereading the New and Old Testament--I cannot believe that God would allow some adulterated, fake and forged Word to represent who He to a lost and dying world! If that were the case, then we would have the most justifiable excuse on THAT DAY to use for Him to let us into His Kingdom!

"After all God, your word was altered, faked, forged, misinterpreted, copied and pasted and downloaded and reconstructed together by so many so many times that it was just not my fault for not getting to know who you are and what your expectations were of me or how to live like you wanted me to..."

:lol:



...oh no, now this is starting to get weird...please do not lose us, nonlinear! : ) I thought for a minute you were totally convinced that Jesus is The Way, The Truth and The Life and that you believed that, " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." John 1: 1-3 KJV


Ok.... now I am going to throw you guys a curve ball and see where it lands. This is one of my favorite short passages:
John 8:44- When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

So considering that epic quote, lets dive right into a "doozie." What do you really know about "Paul." If I were to show evidence that would prove "Paul," or "Saul" was not who he is made out to be in the KJV, would that help you realize that book and all books, things, artificates, and even people are imperfect? Scripture that predates the Old Testament fortells the comming of the Christ (the first time). What is interesting is that this scripture does a great job defining who and exactly what is "perfect." In summary, it says that God of course is perfect.. and he creates the "angels," who are perfect and immortal so long as they obey the word of god. A third of them rebelled (became imperfect for rejecting god) and turned from god. They "fell" to earth, which was at first a perfect creation or eden because man had not been created yet. When god created man he gave his greatest gift of free will, something the angels did not get. When man appeared on earth, the fallen ones were already there/here waiting for them. The argument this scripture make is that nothing here on earth including man is perfect because everything and everyone here is "damned" or "contaminated." It goes a step further by arguing the only man to incarnate on earth that is to be/was perfect is/was the Christ aka "God in the flesh." Remember this was written thousands of years before the Old Testament! So considering this argument, it should be considered that everyone and everything here is "damned" or "contaminated." This is why in my opinion the truth can't be found in one place, rather its been smashed into pieces and its up to each individual to find... and yes that truth might be different from person to person. So, if the KJV is your truth.... I have no beef with you in reality and still love you regardless just as I love people that can't read and have never had access to the KJV. But, if you assert your will on somebody by claiming they won't go to heaven because their truth doesn't jive with your truth, in my opinion this is wrong and a violation of ones free will. I am always open to learning something new,,, and learning other's perspectives, but I don't tell people what to believe,,, I just offer my perspective. If you want my perspective on "Paul," and I can provide some evidence that helped me get my perspective, just let me know. In the same respect, consider what might have happened if we apply this logic to the dinar. I am sure some of you experienced this, I know I did. You tell a friend to buy dinar because its a great investment because its going to be worth alot of money in the future. That friend then goes home and google's the iraqi dinar and sees the first few articles which all claim the dinar is a fraud, and a scam etc. As a result the friend doesn't buy dinar, and thinks you have made a mistake. At this point, is it your responsibility to argue with the friend, or do you just accept your friend's perspective? I chose to accept my friend's perspective even though I disagreed, and I bought a little extra for them myself that I plan to give them after the RV. ;)
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#155 Thomas Gambill

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 07:53 PM

I am not Necessarily disagreeing with you. I just think there is much much much more more to the story. I don't think it matters what label you put on them. I actually prefer the word "regressives," but thats just me and it keeps it simple. Angel is defined biblically as "messanger" or "messanger of god." But unfortunately when people hear that word, it is literally "type casted" as a human being with wings and a halo. In scripture that predates the old testament (I just can't think of the name right now) it says specifically that "angels" were created by god before man, and that angels were not given free will. It futher states that angels ONLY have immortality if they obey the word of god. In this scriptural reference these fallen angels that turned against god are in fact mortal. The Illuminati at the highest level believe that Lucifer and the fallen angels do not have bodies and exist in the astral plane. They can possess a human or an artificial body, but don't have their own. NOTE: I am just giving this info for reference so you can see how the label "angel" in my opinion does a disservice to them. In reality what do we really know about them as FACT other then they are regressives that have turned against creation and created their own way of temporarily sustaining themselves by feeding off others? So thats why I call them regressives. In my opinion we can always add more to the label "regressive" as the info becomes apparent. I agree as well that "Disclosure" is a joke. We know that life exists beyond our narrow worldly perspective here on this 3rd rock from the son. So when/if disclosure does happen, we all can yawn and laugh because we know the joke's on them. I don't want you to take this personally, but please don't limit your perspective to just the KJV. I assure you the KJV is just as corrupted as everything else we have on earth. Francis Bacon was a horrible person and his involvement alone with the KJV casts extreme reasonable doubt on its perception as the "unadultered word of god." Blavatsky's Externalization of the Heirarchy is some great reading if anyone is interested. You really get to see again how Lucifer (Blavatsky channeled Lucifer and wrote the book) works. Remember, the Illuminati believe they are good, and Blavatsky believed she was serving humanity (in one respect I do believe evil serves us cuz we learn), by doing what she did. The book describes everything that is going on now such as how the Illuminati will devour their own as long as one of them is left standing when Lucifer arrives here. In my opinion... Lucifer has lied even to them. This will sound insane, but remember Lucifer is still part of the creation, as are we. We are him, and he is us, and all of us are a part of the great divine plan, and we are part of the creator or fractals of the divine one. Please EVERYONE... don't freak out or think that we all have to agree about any of this.... it is not necessary to agree... that is what makes us divinely different and diverse. I don't even mind if you don't believe in god becaue I know god loves you regardless. This also helps pass the time while we await our fate with the dinar. We all have our own path in life, and I pray that our paths all meet soon with regard to the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar! ;)





"I don't want you to take this personally, but please don't limit your perspective to just the KJV. I assure you the KJV is just as corrupted as everything else we have on earth. Francis Bacon was a horrible person and his involvement alone with the KJV casts extreme reasonable doubt on its perception as the "unadultered word of god." Blavatsky's Externalization of the Heirarchy is some great reading if anyone is interested. You really get to see again how Lucifer (Blavatsky channeled Lucifer and wrote the book) works"


I have to give you the facts. The KJV is the inerrant word of God, and this is non-negotiable. Not one jesuit or mason has ever challenged the KJV and succeeded in proving its corrupted. In fact they had to design other versions using Masons by the names of Westcott and Hort, to warlocks also. They planned to literally corrupt the KJV by making other Bible versions under the lie that the oldest versions were more accurate, lie and then the language needed updating another lie. Revelation 22:18-19 specifically says no changes in the entire BIble is allowed or the ones corrupting will have the plagues added to them. This is not an opinion as this is supported by solid, scholarly research.

Revelation 22:18-19 is not talking just about John's Revelation because in Gods plan Revelation cannot be understood unless you know EZ and Daniel. it weaves together the entire Bible. Sir Francis had NOTHING to do with the Bible. This is a lie coming from the Luciferian Masons and Jesuits. The masons 33rd degree and above, worship Lucifer as they confirm themselves as Does Albert Pike in Morals and Dogma. Also King James was a Godly man and didn't not like nor trust Bacon. Bacon was the Illigit son of Queen Elizabeth I and Dudley before she became queen. Bacon also set up the plan for the fallen angels to establish the Eastern part of the North American Continent as their New Altantis. This is the big picture. James did release Bacon from Jail but this was an act of a King at the time and was warranted by the law.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com...0#ixzz1V3d7iZU0

I completely agree with you. The Illuminati have all the tools in the world to use in order to brainwash people and make great medicinal treatments that don't conform to their own Big Pharma propaganda. They even pump their nonsense in television programs. I was watching that tv show Royal Pains the other day, which is about a doctor that makes house calls etc. In short, they write their cr*p into the show... basically saying how important it is to get flu shots every year etc. I would even argue that a good portion of modern Big Pharma medicine is in fact black magic. Then of course the intentional use of biological and chemical weapons to kill people and make them ill like flouride, chlorides, the mercury and other hazardous chemicals in vaccines, and of course their doozies like manufacturing the AIDS virus (just google Dr. Robert Gallo AIDS as he is the demon that patented it for the government), lyme disease, swine flu, and the avian bird flu. The Rothschilds actually funded the creation of the Bird Flu! :o



Primary purpose of flouride is to calcify the Pineal gland to thwart of the 144,000 yet to come
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 07:55 PM

I believe Yeshua was in fact the son of Yahweh, the father... ie: the human manifestation of Yahweh in this level on earth. I do not go to church, and I don't consider myself a "christian" per se, in that I don't go to church or subscribe to the KJV1611 although I have read it several times.


Unnecessary to subscribe to the KJV. There are several excellent translations to use. The New American Standard is the closest to the Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic languages.

There is no way to be a "christian per se." Either you are a Christian are you are not. There is no middle ground.
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#157 Chooch

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 08:07 PM

"I don't want you to take this personally, but please don't limit your perspective to just the KJV. I assure you the KJV is just as corrupted as everything else we have on earth. Francis Bacon was a horrible person and his involvement alone with the KJV casts extreme reasonable doubt on its perception as the "unadultered word of god." Blavatsky's Externalization of the Heirarchy is some great reading if anyone is interested. You really get to see again how Lucifer (Blavatsky channeled Lucifer and wrote the book) works"


I have to give you the facts. The KJV is the inerrant word of God, and this is non-negotiable. Not one jesuit or mason has ever challenged the KJV and succeeded in proving its corrupted. In fact they had to design other versions using Masons by the names of Westcott and Hort, to warlocks also. They planned to literally corrupt the KJV by making other Bible versions under the lie that the oldest versions were more accurate, lie and then the language needed updating another lie. Revelation 22:18-19 specifically says no changes in the entire BIble is allowed or the ones corrupting will have the plagues added to them. This is not an opinion as this is supported by solid, scholarly research.

Revelation 22:18-19 is not talking just about John's Revelation because in Gods plan Revelation cannot be understood unless you know EZ and Daniel. it weaves together the entire Bible. Sir Francis had NOTHING to do with the Bible. This is a lie coming from the Luciferian Masons and Jesuits. The masons 33rd degree and above, worship Lucifer as they confirm themselves as Does Albert Pike in Morals and Dogma. Also King James was a Godly man and didn't not like nor trust Bacon. Bacon was the Illigit son of Queen Elizabeth I and Dudley before she became queen. Bacon also set up the plan for the fallen angels to establish the Eastern part of the North American Continent as their New Altantis. This is the big picture. James did release Bacon from Jail but this was an act of a King at the time and was warranted by the law.

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Primary purpose of flouride is to calcify the Pineal gland to thwart of the 144,000 yet to come


Ohhhhhh.. this is a good one. Run with that please! What is your perspective of who the 144k are? Flouride of course I know all too much about, but the 144k thing is still a premature topic I am not well versed with. More more more!
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 08:11 PM

You can ask whatever you like. I will start off with an easy one:

Is Obama a muslim? Answer: NO. Obama is a 33rd Degree Freemason from the Prince Hall lodge in Chicago. This is the same lodge that includes 32nd Degree Freemasons Jesse Jackson jr. and sr, Louis Farakhan (not muslim either) and Rev Jeremiah Wright (not christian). Their religion is "Luciferianism," which means... YES they do in fact worship the lead fallen angel that turned against god "Lucifer." Knowledge of Lucifer is not attained until a mason reaches the 32nd degree.


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Posted 14 August 2011 - 08:20 PM

Now theres some interesting thoghts Chooch, as the the bible does speek of Satan is the ruler of this world. I beleive that to be all the things that govern the function of this world including the set up of finace. Although Yahweh is the name of the god of the bible with his name being mentioned some 6000 times in origional writings, he has and is allowing Satan to run and rule this world as Satan see's fit for the time being.

I beleive the I iraq 25,000 note has the babylonian god murdock on it and that that raises the questions for me to what degree religous and astrological matters may be playing into the timeline of a Dinar revaluation?

I was informed once that NASA did all there launches according to astrological dates. apparently Walter Croncites jaw dropped we he learned that. True or not?

Any thoughts or knowlage of solid and acurate sources of info would be great.



Yahweh is the God of all gods and not just the God of the Bible. He rules all the created universes. Satan is the god of this world only as God allows him to rule the minds of lost humanity. When a person believes in Jesus as Jehovah then Satan cannot harm the saint spiritually. Christ's blood, faith, and the saint's avoidance are the main defenses against Satan's seductions (Rev. 12:11; Eph 6:16; 1Cor 7:5).

Satan is a created spiritual being and not equal with God in any way. He is no more than an angel gone bad and he will be destroyed by God on the day of final judgement.
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 08:26 PM

Unnecessary to subscribe to the KJV. There are several excellent translations to use. The New American Standard is the closest to the Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic languages.

There is no way to be a "christian per se." Either you are a Christian are you are not. There is no middle ground.


What is your definition of a Christian? The catholics have one, the masons have one, the jesuits have one, the Amish have one, even wikipedia has one? This is the problem with putting labels on stuff like this in my opinion. Do I love god.. yes! Do I love Yeshua? yes! Do I love you? yes! Do I subscribe to any religious scripture or published instrument? NO! I am open to all of them as they are all good texts to learn from. Even the Buddhists have some great teachings... and so do the Muslims. And I do not believe any religion transcends any other. I personally believe it is an individual journey for people to find their connection with god. If I am wrong, then I take responsibility for myself. I also agree with you that several great translations of the bible exist.
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