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[DinarDana]

Good question Dana. I sort of think the answer is affirmative with regard to your question. An example I can think of is some of these absolutely amazing children that are being born now. There are children that play such things as the piano without any lessons, or do advanced mathmatics without any instruction, and more. I can only speculate reasons why this occurs. One reason which is very dangerous to alot of christians is the possibility of reincarnation. I certainly don't know if reincarnation exists, but I can say the Illuminati believe in it. There is also alot of interesting research that has been done on the topic that is available via google. It makes for interesting reading/viewing even if you consider it fiction. I certanily don't remember any "past " lives. So I just don't know. Buddhists also believe in it, as do Hindus, and of course the new agers. The suggestion is that although we don't retain memories of past lives, our "souls" do. Deep I know... expect some bashing now.

Indigo Children. I have watched my amazingly gifted child fall to the wayside after being bombarded by clutter......I hope he finds his way back. He has some amazing gifts.

[tired_of_waiting]

[quote name='Chooch' date='15 August 2011 - 12:16 AM' timestamp='1313385393' post='622645']
I was just curious... something I always wondered but never researched. I wasn't sure if the masons had their own translation. I am glad you are sticking around on this thread. I am excited to learn as well. As I said earlier, please accept my apology if it appeared like I was bashing masons. Its not fair to bash anyone and I don't want to create a venue for it. I was just hoping for some good dialogue without the negativity, although I seem to be the recipient of it tonight from a few people.
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I'll get with you tomarrow on this thread. Also have some questions for you concerning geothermal power generation as I am VERY well versed on thermaldynamic power generation in relation to heat transfer. Now ima be dunn went to bed.

[Chooch]

My plan began four years ago, still working on it, the RV would certainly help make this easier. I look forward to an age of enlightenment, my fear is to get there from here is going to be a bit chaotic and downright fearful especially for those who have no knowledge of what is to come. My deepest thought on this is it may not be part of the plan for the masses to be aware. Goodnight all and thanks for the thread Chooch.

PS: Regarding the floride and the third eye - there are ways to decalcify - google it. Darn and I thought this was to keep my teeth from decaying.

Thanks Dana. I have been taking Krill Oil tablets by Schiff for the last couple of years as it is suppose to help with that stuff, and its supposed to be good for the heart/blood pressure. I feel your frustration too about the future. I have a new baby on the way that we were not expecting that adds to my stress. I try not to worry though because everything has seemed to work out for my family over the years. goodnight!

[bsme123]

Not sure where you get the New Age stuff from. The basic principles of new age theory is that WE are all GODS. I fundamentally disagree with this, so no.... no new age here. That would be like calling me a Muslim event though I don't believe in Mohammad. Do you see your ignorance? Do you really know what the new age belief is? Have you even studied what you are talking about? By the way there never was a man that incarnated here on earth as the son of god named "Jesus," and wanted to be worshipped or have a religion created around him. The man's name from all evidence I have seen indicates his name was "Jeshua" (of course there are other variations of this spelling including Jehova, or Yehova etc). I do not believe in symantics in this case... so we should have his name right shouldn't we? Not getting the name right in itself can offend some very devout Christians. And yes I know quite alot about divine law or natural law, or cosmic universal law. It appears to me you are speaking in a contact of "divine law" or "cannon law." No sir.... absolutely incorrect. Cannon law (although it controls the world) is most certainly not divine, nor is the Pope, aka Vicar of Lucifer. If this offends... sorry. And no... Jeshua or lets just call him the Christ, would never want you to "bath" in his blood. Blood is used in ritual witchcraft and satanism... and there is no evidence that I have ever encountered that indicates that the Christ's blood is to be revered or metaphorically consumed during mass worship. This ritual is 100% pagan and thousands of years older then Jeshua. If you just used the blood description as an example of explaining the Christ's selfless act of self sacrifice for the rest of us, then yes... I agree 100% with you. But I don't expect you to research any of this on your own and draw your own conclusions. You just believe what you were raised to belive, or what you were told to believe by somebody, thus giving away your energy. It is definitely easier just to believe whatever the "hive" mind programs you to believe. And perhaps you didn't understand the whole US/Them example I gave... so I will try to simplify it. You have the creator (Yahweh) and you have the created (us and everything else). The error or illusion is that we are seperate from everything and the creator. This just isn't true, the creator is with everyone and everything ALL THE TIME. Get it? The Christ taught that we should take responsibility for ourselves and our actions. He taught to love yourself, your enemy, and your neighbor or "the way," as it was labled then. If you want to get right down to the meat of it, NOWHERE does it suggest that Christ even dictated that the "Father" or God should be worshipped. He preached love.... and what better way can you love somebody then to appreciate them and their creation as opposed to desecrating it and turning the earth into a cess pool. Christ got down on his knees and cleaned the feet of his loyal 12... I humbly get down on my knees and clean your feet, because that is what the Christ would do. Now back to the dinar.....

First let me say I apparently misunderstood your US/Them example, so I apologize for being short. And I will say that I was not raised to my beliefs, or taught them by anyone else. There are things I know and have always known, one of them being that when all is said and done LOVE WINS!

[Bambino3]

Virtually, every night I read about the JFK assassination. You link it to current global happenings. I have a ton of specifics and minutia about it. If you think of it as a murder instead of an assassination, with all murders, there is a motive. Then you look at two things - Who had the motive? - Who had the Power to Cover it Up? The two books - written by Posner and Bugliosi are awful. In neither case, do they look for a murderer. They take a conclusion and try to prove it. The people who died just before they were to testify - DeMorehshildt - Ferrie - Sturgis - Hoffa - Roselli (found in two different barrels floating in Miami harbor). If Oswald's motive was notoriety, why was he dumb founded when reporters asked him about the murder of JFK? Why did the FBI have to shim the scope of his rifle before they could even test fire it? How does, the first shot, taken when the the trees were coming into play, completely miss the vehicle, but not wide right, wide left? They keep referring to Kennedy having a neck wound. It was a back wound, 4 inches down from his collar. Look at the picture of his shirt. Why did Gerald Ford insist that the Warren Commission report call in a neck wound? Oswald would have never been convicted. Had no powder burns on his face. On Monday, the 25th, papers were still reporting the rifle to be a Mauser. In Italy, the Italians laughed when they heard it was a Carcano (one with a mis-aligned scope). Why did he buy a rifle mail order when they were readily available locally. This was Texas. Johnson was not only going to be dropped as VP, he was probably going to jail for the Bobby Baker case. Johnson knew that his time was limited because of his heart. He couldn't wait any longer. Every day before he went to his office, he stopped at the White House to walk its grounds. When asked why. He responded, I am just a heart-beat away.

A recent video of the secret service car, just before it was making the right turn onto Houston St, shows a Secret Service member jumping off to ride on the side of JFK's car. He is stopped - holds out his hands pleadingly-asking why. He knew this was the most dangerous point of the motorcade. I could do this for the next few weeks. So, Chooch, if you have any other info...............

[elmstreet61]

Thanks Dana. I have been taking Krill Oil tablets by Schiff for the last couple of years as it is suppose to help with that stuff, and its supposed to be good for the heart/blood pressure. I feel your frustration too about the future. I have a new baby on the way that we were not expecting that adds to my stress. I try not to worry though because everything has seemed to work out for my family over the years. goodnight!

I was a mason...I was given a KJ version bible after my 3rd degree ceremony. I was also an Adventist many years ago...they also like the KJ bible...but as I have researched...the KJ is full to the brim with mis-translations. Some by accident or through ignorance...other mis interpretations came through intentionally, by order of King James.

Try reading GENESIS OF THE GRAIL KINGS and other Laurence Gardiner books on the subject. You will discover that Iraq was and is indeed a magical place.
Did you know that there exists on earth only one actual group that have descended from the religious group that the legendary Jesus The Nazarean was a leader of??

If you like...they are the ONLY TRUE Christian group on earth. What most people call Christians should really be called Paulians...as they all came from, and were started by Paul...one of the people who started the ancient Catholic church.


So where can we find these true remnants of the church of Jesus??? Well blow me down!!! It's IRAQ!!'!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shoshin]

Thanks Dana. I have been taking Krill Oil tablets by Schiff for the last couple of years as it is suppose to help with that stuff, and its supposed to be good for the heart/blood pressure. I feel your frustration too about the future. I have a new baby on the way that we were not expecting that adds to my stress. I try not to worry though because everything has seemed to work out for my family over the years. goodnight!

A word on the Fluoride

Fluoride and bromine are of close molecular structure to Iodine. Iodine is not made in the Thyroid, it is necessary to consume this.

The Thyroid will uptake Fluoride and and bromine both if not enough Iodine in the diet. Iodine is needed by every organ in our body especially breast, ovaries and prostate to protect from cancer but the FDA has limited our amount down to just about ZERO.

Google and research Castor oil packs as well and Iodine cancer treatments.

Chooch you have made quite an opening for many to speak, amazing

[Jaxinjersey]

Does anyone suspect there is such a thing as enlightenment without memorizing or even reading many of the texts you folks are arguing about? Is there such a thing as being born with knowledge and maybe seeking the knowledge is only a form of validation?

Hi Dana... as enlightenment can be sudden as epiphony, I believe it can also be the lifelong process gained initially inherently... intrinsic, or innate. Some are simply predispositioned to enlightenment, without question, for whatever reason. It is also exceptionally noticed, begging the question(s) of why? It may be just that... it simply is.

Edited by Jaxinjersey, 15 August 2011 - 06:58 AM.

[jgreene]

Wow....this is Lame!!! Is this really the Harry Potter fan club thread????

[Jaxinjersey]

Wow....this is Lame!!! Is this really the Harry Potter fan club thread????

Lame? Well, consider yourself one of the many, many lucky one's, not burdened with the insistent need for enlightenment. True bliss, I'm sure... I envy the members of that club sometimes. All the best to you!

[tyron]

Wow....this is Lame!!! Is this really the Harry Potter fan club thread????

In expressing their beliefs these people have done you no harm. What is your intention in mocking them?

[jgreene]

In expressing their beliefs these people have done you no harm. What is your intention in mocking them?

intention is strictly to mock them....buy dinar...put it away...wait for the RV...didnt know it had to get any deeper than that....breaking it down into some wierd scientology is a little wierd....in the words of Keyshawn Johnson....."Cummon Man!!!"

[BlueOrchid919]

Good question Dana. I sort of think the answer is affirmative with regard to your question. An example I can think of is some of these absolutely amazing children that are being born now. There are children that play such things as the piano without any lessons, or do advanced mathmatics without any instruction, and more. I can only speculate reasons why this occurs. One reason which is very dangerous to alot of christians is the possibility of reincarnation. I certainly don't know if reincarnation exists, but I can say the Illuminati believe in it. There is also alot of interesting research that has been done on the topic that is available via google. It makes for interesting reading/viewing even if you consider it fiction. I certanily don't remember any "past " lives. So I just don't know. Buddhists also believe in it, as do Hindus, and of course the new agers. The suggestion is that although we don't retain memories of past lives, our "souls" do. Deep I know... expect some bashing now.

One school of thought is that the brain is developing fuller usage....a larger portion of the brain is 'awakening' and that brings enormous gains in knowledge that it once contained and has been mostly lost. The portion of active brain function is found to be greater in these gifted children, as well as certain adults.

As we open our minds to 'step outside the box' our brain function is increasing exponentially. One can hold fast to one's beliefs, but it is also important to explore other possibilities. With limited knowledge, our decisions are restricted in range. With increased knowledge, our basis becomes larger and can affect how and what we choose to believe.

Keep an open mind and explore new avenues. You'll find some that resonate with you and others that do not. When someone brings a new avenue to explore, that does not mean that person is attempting to change your belief basis. They are simply bringing new information to the table for you to acquire as a knowledge base.

I am loving this thread as I have always reached for more and more knowledge. More knowledge has given me a FAR greater inner peace and a preparedness for whatever comes.

Sadly, modern society all over the world does not encourage reading. Much is lost when reading is lost.

For those of you who are absolutely adamantly against what this thread represents - or choose to denigrate it, please don't read it and please allow us to enjoy exploring new knowledge without nastiness or condemnation.

[Nelg]

What is your definition of a Christian? The catholics have one, the masons have one, the jesuits have one, the Amish have one, even wikipedia has one? This is the problem with putting labels on stuff like this in my opinion. Do I love god.. yes! Do I love Yeshua? yes! Do I love you? yes! Do I subscribe to any religious scripture or published instrument? NO! I am open to all of them as they are all good texts to learn from. Even the Buddhists have some great teachings... and so do the Muslims. And I do not believe any religion transcends any other. I personally believe it is an individual journey for people to find their connection with god. If I am wrong, then I take responsibility for myself. I also agree with you that several great translations of the bible exist.

Therein is your mistake. An eclectic belief system will justify every contradictory element and no truth is real. Jesus Christ becomes one of many lords instead of the Lord of lords.
I am open to study and read all the other religions, and I have. However no religion can hold a candle to Christianity.
Labels are a waste of time. Being just a believer is weird and out of place in today's culture. But I am just a saint of God. A saint in the true since of the word, a child of God, and not isolated or separated from other Christians.
Chooch, you cannot expect to find truth when you accept them all. It is not logical.

[Rossenbos]

We can debate and intellectually masturbate till the cows come (home).

I think Cooch was clear in his writing, that this is all tied in to the RV.

As it stands, you will need to develop your own beliefs of how "the world works".

On that basis you can start to analyse or scenario-think what the possible motives are. Who gets to "win" what. And why.

This is how I decided to buy dinars. Because it appears that the PTB will be benefiting greatly.

[Nelg]

Really tired of the bashing right now... I appreciate your perspective, although I read very little logic in your writing. When you do a thesis you don't just pick one book and plagerize it, telling people its true. That is what it appears to me you are doing, thus TELLING people what to believe. If you are trying to convice me of something, please do it. Don't copy and paste scripture on here and tell me this IS what IS. Can't you just tell me your conclusion in YOUR own words rather then post others work? There is absolutely no damn proof and you know it, that these offspring of angels existed or exist. I have been very cautious with my words when describing these guys by saying I have plenty of evidence that serves as proof that THE ILLUMINATI BELIEVE they are the decendants of the regressives/fallen ones. I don't care if you call these entities "clowns" or "losers." I prefer to call them regressives because it simplifies it for everyone. Like the hippies said, "Open up your mind" man. Satan or Saytan means "adversary." So it is appropriate to say LUCIFER is "the" satan. To throw one more wrench in your plagerized post, I can testify in court that I have first hand knowledge human beings have been abducted, experimented with, and tagged with implants like farm cattle. There are hundreds of thousands of people that can testify to this and they are doing it now! But, unfortunately for you that doesn't resonate with what is written in your old book. I am not here to convice anyone of anything... if that is what you want then go to Okie's blog and spew your primitive hatred to him. Why are you so angry that you have to bash? You sound like a very angry and miserable person, and I am sorry for you because your reality is going to be turned up side down in a very short period of time. I don't care if you consider what I write as fantasy fiction, or Hollywood movie scripts, or comic material. Move on to okie and blaino then, sounds like you will fit right in with them since they only deal with facts. unreal.....

Not angry at all. From whom have I plagiarized? These thoughts are mine. Do I quote the Bible? Certainly? Do I believe that money controls governments? Yes. Do I believe that Satan has anything to do with all this? Only in the sense of influencing individuals to do what they do as they try to control nations. Have I studied other religions and their scriptures? Yes, and some you may not have even heard.
Not a miserable person either. Had a wonderful, joyful, happy life with lots of friends and a wonderful wife of 48 years. I don't read Okie, Blaino or any of the gurus.
What I have a problem understanding is how people can refer to the Bible without understand it's purpose or content or how to interpret it logically. Passages I have seen used are removed from context and made to mean something that God did not intend. If you are going to use the Bible make sure you know what it says instead of making it mean what you would like for it to mean. I am not writing as a casual reader of the Bible. I have been studying it for over 50 years and it hurts me to see it mishandled, rejected, put on a par with other scriptures of the world, and made a mockery of the God who authored it. I am not trying to convince you of anything. I could see that your mind is fixed on your particular "study." However, you are trying to "enlighten" or "persuade" individuals of your particular theory. Don't I have the right to do the same?
Have fun with your post. This will be my last post. I will look to see the response to the other post I have written, but I will not respond.

[NonLinear]

intention is strictly to mock them....buy dinar...put it away...wait for the RV...didnt know it had to get any deeper than that....breaking it down into some wierd scientology is a little wierd....in the words of Keyshawn Johnson....."Cummon Man!!!"

Points to ponder...

Pro 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and they who indulge in it shall eat the fruit of it [for death or life].


Mat 7:12 So then, whatever you desire that others would do to and for you, even so do also to and for them, …

Mat 6:14 For if you forgive people their trespasses [their reckless and willful sins, leaving them, letting them go, and giving up resentment], your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

1Pe 4:8 Above all things have intense and unfailing love for one another, for love covers a multitude of sins [forgives and disregards the offenses of others].

In Joy

[Chooch]

Virtually, every night I read about the JFK assassination. You link it to current global happenings. I have a ton of specifics and minutia about it. If you think of it as a murder instead of an assassination, with all murders, there is a motive. Then you look at two things - Who had the motive? - Who had the Power to Cover it Up? The two books - written by Posner and Bugliosi are awful. In neither case, do they look for a murderer. They take a conclusion and try to prove it. The people who died just before they were to testify - DeMorehshildt - Ferrie - Sturgis - Hoffa - Roselli (found in two different barrels floating in Miami harbor). If Oswald's motive was notoriety, why was he dumb founded when reporters asked him about the murder of JFK? Why did the FBI have to shim the scope of his rifle before they could even test fire it? How does, the first shot, taken when the the trees were coming into play, completely miss the vehicle, but not wide right, wide left? They keep referring to Kennedy having a neck wound. It was a back wound, 4 inches down from his collar. Look at the picture of his shirt. Why did Gerald Ford insist that the Warren Commission report call in a neck wound? Oswald would have never been convicted. Had no powder burns on his face. On Monday, the 25th, papers were still reporting the rifle to be a Mauser. In Italy, the Italians laughed when they heard it was a Carcano (one with a mis-aligned scope). Why did he buy a rifle mail order when they were readily available locally. This was Texas. Johnson was not only going to be dropped as VP, he was probably going to jail for the Bobby Baker case. Johnson knew that his time was limited because of his heart. He couldn't wait any longer. Every day before he went to his office, he stopped at the White House to walk its grounds. When asked why. He responded, I am just a heart-beat away.

A recent video of the secret service car, just before it was making the right turn onto Houston St, shows a Secret Service member jumping off to ride on the side of JFK's car. He is stopped - holds out his hands pleadingly-asking why. He knew this was the most dangerous point of the motorcade. I could do this for the next few weeks. So, Chooch, if you have any other info...............

WOW another huge topic. It is my opinion that Eric John Phelps, author of Vatican Assasins nailed it with regard to the the "big picture" involving the conspiracy of the JFK assasination. There are some great video interviews of him on the internet/youtube that gave me the uhhh hahhh moment that tied everything together. For a long time I was only focused on who did it, rather then why. This site http://www.jfkmurder....com/index1.htm has some great research as well including death bed interviews of some of the co-conspirators, and the weapon that was used for the "head shot," is exposed. In summary of Phelp's research is that the Vatican through NY Cardinal Spellman gave the green light for the entire operation which included the cia, mafia, jesuits, etc. What is even more bizarre is the correlation between the JFK and Lincoln assasination. The Jesuits as well in my opinion ordered Lincon's head. John Wilkes Booth was a Jesuit that was not killed, rather a patsie was "sacrificed," as Booth was helped to escape. I believe there is some interesting evidence that Booth gave a death bed confession as an old man as he died in Kansas City.

[tjmunson]

I have but one question,

If the little pop out thingy on a turkey is broken and doesn't pop out, what is the best way to tell when the turkey is done?

Thank you.

[NonLinear]

If you want to read something that I found absolutely mind blowing.... check this out. http://www.illuminat....com/00363.html ....yeah its crazy... enjoy!

Read more: http://dinarvets.com...V8e5VjmQ.......

Chooch, I have been reading this insider's account - thank you - and I must tell you that you can get what he is hesitant to share AND what he is not privy to know [beyond his pay grade], from the Urantia book! I am about half way through the interview yet I had to share this with you asap! Like he often says, "Nothing personal, it's just business!"

Search the Urantia book using 'The Lucifer Rebellion' or go to it from the contents section. I have yet to come across any contradictory claims though I am only about halfway through the question and answers!

I have the 'Book of Ra' series and use them as reference material.

'Free will' indeed! More coming...

'In Joy'!