THE BIG EXPERIMENT (TBE)

[WowLewi]

The Big Experiment (TBE)

Let me preface the following with… I am not a/or pretend to be a GURU, Dinar Expert or Investment Specialist. I am however a Business Man and Entrepreneur and this is my POV (Point of View – “Not a Utility Vehicle”).

Look at The Past: Many of the very smart investors among us speak of the past to determine what will happen with the Dinar today. This makes sense and sounds very reasonable but may I respectfully ask… When have over 100 currencies significantly revalued at the same time (If true) and drastically altered the Global Economy overnight (If true again)? TBE

The Rate: .10 to $4.44 (We won’t even discuss the $8.00 knuckle heads). Isn’t there a legitimate argument for both rates and anything in between?

$4.00 would instantly make the Iraqi people wealthy and possibly millions of others worldwide but do they have the resources to support this overnight and wouldn’t millions of Iraqi’s quit their jobs?

How about the .86 to the Euro theory and then a bounty on the larger notes and slow increase to Iraq’s previous rate? Interesting, but wouldn’t this be an issue with a run on their currency from heavy investors (Not Heavy because they are “Fat Cats”)?

Then we have Adam who is about as smart as they come and seemingly very grounded stating .10-.30 sense. IMO we would have a worldwide buying frenzy of the Dinar if this happened. JMO, remember I am a Business Man not an educated expert such as Adam whom I respect greatly. TBE

Bashers/Pumpers: This will surely get some negative marks but I am not writing this for the fame rather just for some perspective. BASHERS/PUMPERS are exactly the same type of person! What say you WowLewi??? They are EGO driven boneheads. They both have no concern for the detriment they cause others. They are most likely sad, insecure folks with nothing better to do. Frankly we should just pray for them. Or should I say “PREY”. I’m watching you!!! TBE

The Big Secret: Supposedly this was the Bush secret from the beginning with “This War will Pay For Itself Plan”. Then the internet Gossip took over and now it is speculated that there could be as much as 3,000,000 investors in the US alone. Oops! If this is true I can see how this could have thrown a big A$$ wrench into the works. So the planners (after changing their shorts) had to re-think this whole deal. TBE

Security: Imagine if you will (You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind; a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead-- your next stop . . . the Twilight Zone! – SORRY MY A.D.D. took over). Anyways imagine a poor inner city neighborhood somewhere in the great U.S. and suddenly every citizen overnight became 3,000 percent wealthier (a bit exaggerated, I know) but isn’t this what we are talking about for the Iraqi people. This may appear on the face to be a blessing but wouldn’t this be a massive opportunity for the evil amongst them to do bad things (Rape, Pillage, Plunder)? Therefore I can understand major delays to get their Security in order. TBE

RV Inside/Outside Iraq Only: This makes no sense to me at all. I could be wrong but…

Outside only RV: Wouldn’t there be massive rioting in Iraq if they found out that outsiders made millions from their Blood, Sweat and years of Tears? Wouldn’t they be finding every way possible to get their cash out of country so they could cash-in? I don’t think our Amazing Soldiers would be very happy as the pride of our nation fought for a stronger Iraq not to weaken one.

Inside only: How many people would do everything they can to smuggle their Dinar into Iraq to get something out of it… Crazy!!! TBE

Dinar for Oil Deal: On the face of it, this sounds crazy. We cut a deal for $32 a Barrel. Obama keeps big oil from drilling offshore and in country. Our government has more control of our economy. Obama get’s re-elected… Put your political affiliations aside and I think… we can all agree that there has been bigger conspiracies than this one successfully implemented. Plausible! TBE

Bank Rumors: Wow these are all over the map… Now this is an actual account of what happened to me about a month ago. Not super exciting, but the truth. I asked a teller that I know at a US Bank in a grocery store in Southern California (I only left out the City to keep them from getting harassed... not that you would want to after reading the story). Anyways, I asked “do you or any of your branches deal in foreign currency”. He replied “We don’t but I will call our main branch and check”. I said “Fantastic because one day I may want to cash in a large sum”. He said he would call and never did. I went in a week later to wire some money for more Dinar and before I got to the window he pulled me aside and said “Sorry for not calling you but were you talking about The Dinar?” He continued… “If you are we were told by Travelex (which works with US Bank) that the Dinar is a BIG SCAM!!!” I said “really”. At that time his Manager recognized me and walked over to join the conversation. The teller said I was just telling Mr. WowLewi (That’s my real name). That the “Dinar is a Big Scam!!!”…. The Manager corroborated what the teller was saying and then I jumped in and asked one question. “If you bought a stock and it more than doubled in value in the last seven years would it be a SCAM?” They both said no it wouldn’t. Then after enlightening them a bit about the investment I proceeded to give them the wire information to purchase more Dinar and they both laughed, because I hadn’t told them why I was there in the first palce. IMO I think this is exactly what the banks would tell the tellers as they wouldn’t have any employees after the RV if they were telling them this is a good investment. Big Businesses typically holds their employees down to protect themselves. Business 101 unfortunately. TBE

LOP or no LOP: I refrain from this argument as this has been beaten to death and both sides are so far apart that the jist of this post would be lost if I went there. I will just say… If it were to LOP (Dare I say) and RV at $3 it was still a good investment. Not saying that is what I think it will do as I am not one of the smart ones.

The Zeros (000): Wow! This is Doozie. I have never heard one statement “Raise the Zeros” be spun, twisted, manipulated, pumped, bashed, used and abused as much as this has. Holy Crap!!! Do you see why I think this is TBE (The Big Experiment). Who knows who knows who’s in the know?

Conclusion (“About Time” You say)

Let’s sit back and put this into perspective. Who are the players? Possibly over 100 countries, The WTO, IMF, UN, CBI, Allawi, Maliki, Shabs, Obama and at least a few puppet masters.

Let’s all assume for a moment that the RV is for real. Clearly we wouldn’t have invested if we didn’t think so. Do really think it is unreasonable that this thing could have been delayed several times? I have been involved in business deals worth only a couple million dollars and 8-10 times thought we would have a deal and at the last second some greedy, insecure, scared person or hour building attorney put the shackles on the deal and we had to fix the problem, start over or regroup. I don’t find it hard to believe that every time the RV looks done some greedy self serving jerk can throw a wrench into it. This is possibly the biggest, technical, logistic, political and world altering event that has ever happen. A few delays should be expected and accepted.

Would I love for Shabs to push the button and watch Possum party until his pants fell off (Oh, my eyes are burning). Of course, but folks… I am just one clueless guy that sees this as a massive undertaking. If you believe in this investment... sit back, relax and realize we may be the ants in the ant farm of THE BIG EXPERIMENT.

Thanks for your time. GO RVVVVVVVVVVVV

[upnorth]

Thanks for the post - I like someone who has a well grounded, easy to read post. Like you, I am not an expert in this investment so I appreciate your thought provoking post. Look forward to more of your posts. Thanks again.

[quantumleap]

YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS WELL PRESENTED......

STAY THIRSTY MY FRIEND........ :rolleyes:

[brandedbabe]

If the sanctions took the money from the people of Iraq it makes sense removing those sanctions would give it back. Also it is a proven fact that richer city's , states and countrys have lower crime rates....look at Wellfair country's who share oil revenue and ask yourself some of those questions and why Iraq seems to head in that direction....IMO

[puff26]

WOW WOW that's what my grandson Jamie called me when he was little, thanks for the post, I read it all, something I almost never do...I gave you a +

[sheepdog]

wowlewie, thanks for your input. Your post sounds logical to me.

[WowLewi]

If the sanctions took the money from the people of Iraq it makes sense removing those sanctions would give it back. Also it is a proven fact that richer city's , states and countrys have lower crime rates....look at Wellfair country's who share oil revenue and ask yourself some of those questions and why Iraq seems to head in that direction....IMO

I agree. It's the anarchy because of the instant wealth I would be concerned with.

[mrsonnyr]

WowLewi...Great way to wrap it up. Here's a good link for ya

Probably the best panel I've ever heard with level heads!

http://www.4shared.com/audio/PCeYclKM/scooter630.html

[Dinar-Hustle]

WOWlewi your post was great!

[brandedbabe]

I agree. It's the anarchy because of the instant wealth I would be concerned with.

What is anarchy to Iraqi's? They fire guns into the air every holiday/ hollyday! Time will tell but if I was a citizen of Iraq I would be thinking what are those Americans going to do after an rv because it seems like we hold more stock in there currency then they do.

Go RV.......The city of Victorville needs a batting cage!

[cooked]

Well written and perfect timing, given the letdown today.

[WowLewi]

What is anarchy to Iraqi's? They fire guns into the air every holiday/ hollyday! Time will tell but if I was a citizen of Iraq I would be thinking what are those Americans going to do after an rv because it seems like we hold more stock in there currency then they do.

Go RV.......The city of Victorville needs a batting cage!

Go Victorville... I drove through there many times.

IMO we have less people that have more Dinar each than Iraqis and live in a stable society. We will be fine... I just hope that we put the money to good use as you will.

We have heard many times that Iraqis deal in cash only and don't all use banks. Assume each poor household only had one 25k note ($25 USD) and the next day it revalued to be worth $25,000 USD. I think there would be at minimum house to house looting. You made your own point about them shooting their guns in the air every chance they get.

[BocaLinda]

WOW! That's the best post I've read in a long time. And you have eloquently described what I've bee thinking too. Thanks so much for the time it took to write and post. I believe we are close, but not in control here. It's amazing to think that we could actually be in on such an historic event! However long it takes, I'm in. So, thanks again!

C'Mon RV!

The Fat Lady Sings the High C and Address Off the Stage...

[brandedbabe]

Go Victorville... I drove through there many times.

IMO we have less people that have more Dinar each than Iraqis and live in a stable society. We will be fine... I just hope that we put the money to good use as you will.

We have heard many times that Iraqis deal in cash only and don't all use banks. Assume each poor household only had one 25k note ($25 USD) and the next day it revalued to be worth $25,000 USD. I think there would be at minimum house to house looting. You made your own point about them shooting their guns in the air every chance they get.

Good points and very well written article...I am glad DV is still attracting new people who have positive outlook towards this investment. +1

[WowLewi]

Good points and very well written article...I am glad DV is still attracting new people who have positive outlook towards this investment. +1

Happy to be here... It's posters like you that keep me here. A well founded debate without name calling and personal attacks is inspiring. +1 back

[cisole]

Awesome post WowLewi !!

[pops]

Hey. I have to agree with you completly and enjoyed the way you say things. This has been a ride much like a roller coaster that so many have said they feel. Good luck to us all.

[dman13]

The other members have already said what should be said, i'll just add: Good post and great read. Keep posting

[Really?]

Very Interesting!

[wavggg]

Lewi-

thanks for adding to the sane and sober side of the Dinar conversation.

Yes, doing deals always has detractors to delay them, for may reasons as you cite.

My old boss likened it to a boxing match... the fighters usually go all 10 rounds and the winner is the one who is still standing (or wobbling less) after all the beatings. lol

hopefully our contenders are getting weary and ready to settle...

peace

gg

Edited July 1, 2011 by wavggg

[Jasperpous]

WowLewi...you've certainly stirred the pot of intellect that is so latent in this pool. Kudos for your insight and thought process. Thanks for taking the time and making the effort to enlighten the readers with your theories. You could gather a following of those eager to see this thing mature with fruitfulness. Write on, brother right on.

[Rossenbos]

$4.00 would instantly make the Iraqi people wealthy and possibly millions of others worldwide but do they have the resources to support this overnight and wouldn’t millions of Iraqi’s quit their jobs?

Outside only RV: Wouldn’t there be massive rioting in Iraq if they found out that outsiders made millions from their Blood, Sweat and years of Tears? Wouldn’t they be finding every way possible to get their cash out of country so they could cash-in? I don’t think our Amazing Soldiers would be very happy as the pride of our nation fought for a stronger Iraq not to weaken one.

Well, compliments from me too, but you make one big mistake that no one seems to have noticed.

The Iraqis won't be richer after the RV. The RV means the value of the dinar relative to other currencies will change. It will not affect the people in the country. The lower denoms mean that the 000s will be deleted and prices will be changed. But Iraq is not like America, where the middle class has savings. There is no middle class in Iraq of people having 50.000 dinar in their savings account, who now suddenly are wealthier. There is people on the streets with zilch and there's a ruling class with enough. The dinar is the Iraqi currency but the US$ is used on the street.

This RV will do what it is supposed to do: to allow Iraq to engage in the economic dynamics globally and based on the value the Iraq economy represents ( fossil fuel of course) After they're part of the WTO and after their currency is tradeable they can engage and export and do stuff every nation can do.

Their budget will make sense again and they can start re-building their nation.

As a result, everybody outside of Iraq holding dinars will be richer. Much richer. And the lucky Iraqi with 50.000 dinars in his piggy bank will suddenly have purchasing power abroad, which he didn't have before the RV.

This RV will most certainly help us - investors - but it will primarely help Iraq and its citizens.

There are two schools of thought ( at least).

1. The whole world is run by the Rotschilds/Illuninati/Shapeshifters/Bilderbergers/Royal Bloodlines etc and they manipulate everything.

If that is the case, they will determine when the RV works for them and simply do it. Follow the smart money. Check out what their main agents ( Blair, Clinton, Obama, Soros, Putin, Rockefeller, Bush) are doing. There is no way you can pre-empt them or stop them in this or outsmart them. Be the flea on the elephant's back.

or

2. That option 1. is crap and the world is run by bankers, the IMF, the World Bank, etc.

Then simply follow the rules laid out. Check out what the WTO wants, the IMF says, etc and Iraq will RV when it can. Obama will only have so much to say about it.

Just be patient. Walk the dog. Kiss the wife. Watch football. Be nice to people with less. Plant a tree. Do a colonic cleanse. Give flowers to old people. Apologise to negroes.

[Ironwolf1974]

Well, compliments from me too, but you make one big mistake that no one seems to have noticed.

The Iraqis won't be richer after the RV. The RV means the value of the dinar relative to other currencies will change. It will not affect the people in the country. The lower denoms mean that the 000s will be deleted and prices will be changed. But Iraq is not like America, where the middle class has savings. There is no middle class in Iraq of people having 50.000 dinar in their savings account, who now suddenly are wealthier. There is people on the streets with zilch and there's a ruling class with enough. The dinar is the Iraqi currency but the US$ is used on the street.

This RV will do what it is supposed to do: to allow Iraq to engage in the economic dynamics globally and based on the value the Iraq economy represents ( fossil fuel of course) After they're part of the WTO and after their currency is tradeable they can engage and export and do stuff every nation can do.

Their budget will make sense again and they can start re-building their nation.

As a result, everybody outside of Iraq holding dinars will be richer. Much richer. And the lucky Iraqi with 50.000 dinars in his piggy bank will suddenly have purchasing power abroad, which he didn't have before the RV

This RV will most certainly help us - investors - but it will primarely help Iraq and its citizens.

There are two schools of thought ( at least).

1. The whole world is run by the Rotschilds/Illuninati/Shapeshifters/Bilderbergers/Royal Bloodlines etc and they manipulate everything.

If that is the case, they will determine when the RV works for them and simply do it. Follow the smart money. Check out what their main agents ( Blair, Clinton, Obama, Soros, Putin, Rockefeller, Bush) are doing. There is no way you can pre-empt them or stop them in this or outsmart them. Be the flea on the elephant's back.

or

2. That option 1. is crap and the world is run by bankers, the IMF, the World Bank, etc.

Then simply follow the rules laid out. Check out what the WTO wants, the IMF says, etc and Iraq will RV when it can. Obama will only have so much to say about it.

Just be patient. Walk the dog. Kiss the wife. Watch football. Be nice to people with less. Plant a tree. Do a colonic cleanse. Give flowers to old people. Apologise to negroes.

There will be a football season?!?!

[WowLewi]

Well, compliments from me too, but you make one big mistake that no one seems to have noticed.

The Iraqis won't be richer after the RV. The RV means the value of the dinar relative to other currencies will change. It will not affect the people in the country. The lower denoms mean that the 000s will be deleted and prices will be changed. But Iraq is not like America, where the middle class has savings. There is no middle class in Iraq of people having 50.000 dinar in their savings account, who now suddenly are wealthier. There is people on the streets with zilch and there's a ruling class with enough. The dinar is the Iraqi currency but the US$ is used on the street.

This RV will do what it is supposed to do: to allow Iraq to engage in the economic dynamics globally and based on the value the Iraq economy represents ( fossil fuel of course) After they're part of the WTO and after their currency is tradeable they can engage and export and do stuff every nation can do.

Their budget will make sense again and they can start re-building their nation.

As a result, everybody outside of Iraq holding dinars will be richer. Much richer. And the lucky Iraqi with 50.000 dinars in his piggy bank will suddenly have purchasing power abroad, which he didn't have before the RV.

This RV will most certainly help us - investors - but it will primarely help Iraq and its citizens.

There are two schools of thought ( at least).

1. The whole world is run by the Rotschilds/Illuninati/Shapeshifters/Bilderbergers/Royal Bloodlines etc and they manipulate everything.

If that is the case, they will determine when the RV works for them and simply do it. Follow the smart money. Check out what their main agents ( Blair, Clinton, Obama, Soros, Putin, Rockefeller, Bush) are doing. There is no way you can pre-empt them or stop them in this or outsmart them. Be the flea on the elephant's back.

or

2. That option 1. is crap and the world is run by bankers, the IMF, the World Bank, etc.

Then simply follow the rules laid out. Check out what the WTO wants, the IMF says, etc and Iraq will RV when it can. Obama will only have so much to say about it.

Just be patient. Walk the dog. Kiss the wife. Watch football. Be nice to people with less. Plant a tree. Do a colonic cleanse. Give flowers to old people. Apologise to negroes.

I appreciate your response but I believe I covered what would happen IMO with this in my post...

Outside only RV: Wouldn’t there be massive rioting in Iraq if they found out that outsiders made millions from their Blood, Sweat and years of Tears? Wouldn’t they be finding every way possible to get their cash out of country so they could cash-in? I don’t think our Amazing Soldiers would be very happy as the pride of our nation fought for a stronger Iraq not to weaken one. (In addition I think it's reasonable to assume that a lot of Iraqi's have 50,000 IQD considering the current value (apx. $50 USD).

I found your closing statement humurous until your "Apologise to negroes." comment. I'm not a fan of Obama but I am a fan of a world where we are judged on the content of our character.

[Nelg]

Excellent post! Well done and elucidating. Makes a person feel proud just to be a participant in something this big.