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mailman17 says to (20:40:43):

HE DANCED HIS WAY AROUND ALMOST EVERY QUESTION WE THREW AT HIM

AND EVEN MED COULD TELL ON THE PHONE I WAS GETTING MIFFED

UNTIL HE THREW ME THE BOMBSHELL

HE TOLD US...THAT HE WOULD TRY TO PERSUADE EVERYONE THAT CASHED IN WITH HIM TI NOW....HE WOULD STILL CASH IN IF YOU SAID NO

BUT

IF HE COULD MANAGE TO SWAY 10% OF THE PEOPLE TO INVEST OVERSEAS IT WOULD BE WELL WORTH HIS EFFORT

BEING FROM CHICAGO...PEOPLE LIKE THIS DONT DO THAT FOR NOTHING

STREET LAW # 5

NOW

THE VARIOUS SITES THAT HE ADVERTISES ON AND HAS BEEN A FAITHFUL MONTHLY RENT PAYER TO THOSE SITES HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE

I WONT NAME NAMES

SURE THEY ARE GONNA BACK HIM

YOU CAN THINK OF THE REASON IN YOUR OWN MIND

YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS

SO YES...THAT BOTHERS ME

WIRE TRANSFERS?

YOU WANNA TAKE THAT CHANCE?

EVEN IF THE 90% SAY NO...AND HOPEFULLY...THEIR MONEY GETS INTO THEIR OWN BANKS...ITS THE 10% I WORRY MOST ABOUT

AND THAT

IS WHY I HAVE BEEN A AVID U.S. BANK PUSHER FROM DAY ONE

I DONT CARE WHAT BANK

JUST DONT TAKE THE CHANCE AND GO THROUGH A MIDDLE MAN...THERE IS NO NEED TO

THANK YOU

NOW...EVERYTHING I SAID CAN BE VERIFIED BY 4 OTHER PEOPLE OTHER THAN MYSELF

SO YES...I WOULD BUY FROM HIM...AS HE NEVER CHEATED ANYONE ON A PURCHASE THAT I KNOW OF...SURE HE MADE HIS MONEY, BUT THATS WHAT HE DOES AND EVERY OTHER DEALER

lawlesslucy says to (20:49:27):

just saying why would ali take a chance of going to prison for doing something illegaql?

mailman17 says to (20:49:39):

BUT I WILL NOT CASH IN WITH HIM AND I HOPE NONE OF YOU DO AND TELL YOUR FRIENDS THE SAME

lawlesslucy says to (20:49:47):

they are businessmen.........

mailman17 says to (20:49:57):

LAWLESS...HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL

lawlesslucy says to (20:50:07):

okay........

mailman17 says to (20:50:24):

ITS HIS MOTIVATION TOWARDS GULLIBLE PEOPLE TI INVEST OUTSIDE THE US AND INTO IRAQ THAT WORRIES ME

WHEN WE MENTIONED WIRE TRANSFERS IN THAT CONFERENCE CALL...HE DID MENTION HE MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO HIS BANKS FIRST, THEN TO YOURS

NOW, HE MIGHT HAVE CHANGED HIS MIND AND HAVE A DEAL WITH WELLS FARGO...OR SOMETHING

BUT I DONT BELIEVE HE EVER TOLD ANYONE EXACTLY HOW HE WILL HANDLE THIS OTHER THAN COME IN..PAY HIM PER MILLION AND HE WILL GET IT TO YOUR ACCOUNT

JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY HOOPS FOR SUCH A BASIC OPERATION

AND THATS JMO

lawlesslucy says to (20:53:17):

well i remember that he told us to have direct numbers to our bank and call...dont leave until it is verified

mailman17 says to (20:53:25):

HOPE...I DID NOT HERE THAT...SO THAT EVEN MAKES ME WONDER MORE

lawlesslucy says to (20:53:49):

mm17 i heard him say that

mailman17 says to (20:54:25):

LAWLESS...YES HE DID...YOU TRUST HIS PEOPLE WITH YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AND ANY OTHER THING HE WOULD REQUIRE JUST TO BE A MIDDLE MAN?...I SURE AS HELL WOULDNT

lawlesslucy says to (20:54:51):

im not saying im going im just saying that he told us

mailman17 says to (20:54:58):

I KNOW...

THE WHOLE THING IS...THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO GO TO HIM...

dales says to (20:55:31):

can we just get to that point first, then all can decide

mailman17 says to (20:55:43):

DALES..THATS THE PLAN

I JUST WANTED YOU GUYS TO KNOW WHY WE THINK THE WAY WE DO...THATS ALL...WE HAVE ALWAYS SAID...YOU CAN GO TO ANYONE YOU WANT...BUT

DONT CRY WHEN YOU GET ROOKED

DodgerBoy says to (20:56:40):

I don't get it, WHY would anyone go to a middle man vs. the real thing?

mailman17 says to (20:56:56):

DODGER...I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THAT TOO

A LOT OF THESE SITES AVERTISE ALI...SO I WOULD IMAGINE THEY ARE CONNECTED SOMEHOW ALSO

AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF INFLUENCE ON THEIR MEMBERSHIP

JUST AS WE DO HERE

DINARHAM...BANKS USUALLY CHARGE...UNLESS NEGOTIATED

dallasgto says to (20:58:51):

MM17--When I bought from Ali, I had to send a copy of my drivers license. Is that going to be bad for me?

mailman17 says to (20:58:54):

LIKE I SAID...I REALLY DONT CARE WHAT BANK YOU GO TO...KNOWING YOU WENT TO A U.S. BANK IS GOOD ENOUGH...IF YOUR HAPPY, THEN I AM HAPPY...I WAS JUST TRYING TO WARN YOU OF POTENTIAL MISHAPS

DALLAS..I NEVER SENT A COPY OF ANYTHING

GOP says to (20:59:13):

.BOA FIRST

THEN CHASE AND CITI

guardian says to (20:59:27):

after Ali stopped selling, he sent an email with all his locations, the cost to you plus procedures

mailman17 says to (21:00:14):

GUARDIAN...EXACTLY...HELL IF THATS THE CASE, I WILL HOLD YOUR HAND WHILE YOU GO TO THE BANK AND ONLY CHARGE YOU 10 BUCKS...LOL

guardian says to (21:00:23):

just saying he still has a plan

mailman17 says to (21:00:38):

I KOW..I WASNT DIGGIN YA...LOL

Aunt Gwennie says to (21:00:58):

Ali did not send me anything

mailman17 says to (21:01:02):

AUNTIE..WHAT?/

CIT HAS A SMALL SHARE IN WARKA...YES

Aunt Gwennie says to (21:01:36):

when I first started I purchase my first mil from Ali

mailman17 says to (21:01:47):

BUYINGS OK

ALWAYS WAS

THAT WAS NEVER MY ISSUE

Aunt Gwennie says to (21:02:08):

8 years ago

mailman17 says to (21:02:24):

YES..YOU HAVE EVEN ME AUNTIE IN TIME...LOL

Aunt Gwennie says to (21:02:31):

yes

mailman17 says to (21:02:36):

GOD BLESS YA

OK..GONNA RUN...THANKS FOR LETTING ME GET THAT OFF MY CHEST AND INTO YOUR MINDS...I FELL BETTER

Preach says to (21:03:29):

MM17 We have a friend that is a VP of a bank I won't name who has told us that they will pay whatever is on Forex when this RV's

mailman17 says to (21:04:01):

DO YOU NEED ALI FOR THAT?

NO

THATS MY POINT

WHETHER YOU GO ON YOUR OWN OR WITH A GROUP...JUST MAKE ONE TRIP...THE BANK AND NO WHERE ELSE

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Adam is negotiating with a Bank on behalf of the VIP Members. It's being discussed in that Section.

It's interesting to see the Fallout from Ali's departure and the effect on several other sites. :blink:

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He did kind of depart the fix under some strange circumstances and no news from him since then which is kind of questionable.

I did not buy my Dinars from him as his rates were way too high.

Guess we will all know soon enough what happened here.

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"Everything done in darkness will be brought into the light." All will be made clear in due time; until then, most all will remain merely speculation. Ali always did for me whatever he promised to do and on a very timely basis. I have no complaints with him. May the Lord bless him and his family in whatever they are dealing with during this time.

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Adam is negotiating with a Bank on behalf of the VIP Members. It's being discussed in that Section.

It's interesting to see the Fallout from Ali's departure and the effect on several other sites. :blink:

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"Everything done in darkness will be brought into the light." All will be made clear in due time; until then, most all will remain merely speculation. Ali always did for me whatever he promised to do and on a very timely basis. I have no complaints with him. May the Lord bless him and his family in whatever they are dealing with during this time.

+ for you my friend. I agree 100% with your thoughts. Ali has always done right by me. I pray for him and his family to get through whatever trying times they may be going through. As far as cashing in my options are open to best deal out there but first we have to get the RV. Lol. God Bless Semper Fi

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Thanks for the post DRV :)

Some very good yet sad points made by old mailman. I tend to think

as far as many dealers go, we will see yet more disappointment than

anything else in regards to their empty promises and gimmicks.

I am very glad mailman addressed this and I just do not want to see

people get hurt by anyone that makes promises they may not be able to

fulfill.

Ali made his money, the sites that supported him are GUILTY in my opinion

in the MANNER in which they boasted and lied in order to make money off of

naive people who trusted everything they were told. Now what do they have to show for

the hype? That appears to be the sad result and it is a bitter pill to swallow for many folks.

I can only hope Ali makes good on his promises...but certainly I would not advise people

to use his services based upon what his own recent actions appear to be.

It is simply too evident how this became a circus in order to support their dealer friends at a cost

to individuals who bought into the hype, while the sites were being paid referrals, the followers

got corruption in return for their loyalty. Very sad indeed.

All my best!

Jim

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I guess im the A**hole cousin that just gives it to you for free if you want it and steps on a few toes a little bit [/size]

HaHaHa. That's a good one justin88 and some great info as well.

I think that I'm the dumb@r$$ cousin and for me it was comforting to join VIP and gain access to the information being dispensed there. With the Capital investment and the amount of time I devote on this website the expenditure was justified for me.

Certainly if and when the time comes I want to make an educated decision. Adam's efforts to provide a path for a Post RV strategy is appreciated but certainly not mandatory. I enjoy the give and take allowed on this Site.

Thanks for your Witty and Informative Post. And don't worry about stepping on my toes. I'm wearing Clown Shoes ! ;)

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Just talked to him yesterday and his old site is still up for the reason of people being able to contact him. He only stopped selling Dinar..he intends to open Up His office in Tenn. when the Dinar RV's.. It says right on the site that he will reopen when the Dinar changes value. I bought all my Dinar from him without any problems..All this talk makes a person wonder?

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you can also negociate yourself, dah

Good point although there is strength in numbers. I'm loosely affiliated with a group of investors here in the Phoenix area and they have been negotiating as a group. I hope that we are all faced with that decision soon ! B)

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I have a foreign currency specialist downtown DC that does this for a living. I don't mind his organization getting a small cut from my cash in. At least I know I'm dealing with someone legit, I'm not taking anything away from Ali but I don't know him nor anything about his organization. The foreign currency specialist explained to me the entire process and I will be contacting him again tomorrow and will ask if his company is willing to work out a deal pending on how many people I bring to them. You all can do this same thing in your cities as well. Don't take one person's speculation as your final answers. Execute all of your options. We could possibly talking about hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars here; you wouldn't want to take that kind of money to someone you only heard about do you? Just saying!

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funny what people believe, doesn't make sense to me. adam negotiating a better exchange rate for VIP members. i would like to know how that is going to work, not!!! its ok, keep making monthly payments for that. it was a good idea though cuz people will believe anything and pay it....

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funny what people believe, doesn't make sense to me. adam negotiating a better exchange rate for VIP members. i would like to know how that is going to work, not!!! its ok, keep making monthly payments for that. it was a good idea though cuz people will believe anything and pay it....

I don't feel like you have been around long enough to know about Adam Montana, He is a stand up guy and a very smart business man. I and many others appreciate all he does for us. Read more and you will understand. Bob

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Pretty sure each one of you can negotiate terms and rates with any bank just as you have been doing your whole adult life. Once this goes public any and all bankers will be more than happy to negotiate the rate.....Keep it real folks :D

ya, thank you... i never said anything about adam, sure he is a great guy. i actually said it was a good idea what he is doing. just people like bobfpc pay him money every month, for what, so he can negotiate at a bank for you when you can do the same. And i have been around for a long time son............

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