DRV1804 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 mailman17 says to (20:40:43): HE DANCED HIS WAY AROUND ALMOST EVERY QUESTION WE THREW AT HIM AND EVEN MED COULD TELL ON THE PHONE I WAS GETTING MIFFED UNTIL HE THREW ME THE BOMBSHELL HE TOLD US...THAT HE WOULD TRY TO PERSUADE EVERYONE THAT CASHED IN WITH HIM TI NOW....HE WOULD STILL CASH IN IF YOU SAID NO BUT IF HE COULD MANAGE TO SWAY 10% OF THE PEOPLE TO INVEST OVERSEAS IT WOULD BE WELL WORTH HIS EFFORT BEING FROM CHICAGO...PEOPLE LIKE THIS DONT DO THAT FOR NOTHING STREET LAW # 5 NOW THE VARIOUS SITES THAT HE ADVERTISES ON AND HAS BEEN A FAITHFUL MONTHLY RENT PAYER TO THOSE SITES HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE I WONT NAME NAMES SURE THEY ARE GONNA BACK HIM YOU CAN THINK OF THE REASON IN YOUR OWN MIND YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS SO YES...THAT BOTHERS ME WIRE TRANSFERS? YOU WANNA TAKE THAT CHANCE? EVEN IF THE 90% SAY NO...AND HOPEFULLY...THEIR MONEY GETS INTO THEIR OWN BANKS...ITS THE 10% I WORRY MOST ABOUT AND THAT IS WHY I HAVE BEEN A AVID U.S. BANK PUSHER FROM DAY ONE I DONT CARE WHAT BANK JUST DONT TAKE THE CHANCE AND GO THROUGH A MIDDLE MAN...THERE IS NO NEED TO THANK YOU NOW...EVERYTHING I SAID CAN BE VERIFIED BY 4 OTHER PEOPLE OTHER THAN MYSELF SO YES...I WOULD BUY FROM HIM...AS HE NEVER CHEATED ANYONE ON A PURCHASE THAT I KNOW OF...SURE HE MADE HIS MONEY, BUT THATS WHAT HE DOES AND EVERY OTHER DEALER lawlesslucy says to (20:49:27): just saying why would ali take a chance of going to prison for doing something illegaql? mailman17 says to (20:49:39): BUT I WILL NOT CASH IN WITH HIM AND I HOPE NONE OF YOU DO AND TELL YOUR FRIENDS THE SAME lawlesslucy says to (20:49:47): they are businessmen......... mailman17 says to (20:49:57): LAWLESS...HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL lawlesslucy says to (20:50:07): okay........ mailman17 says to (20:50:24): ITS HIS MOTIVATION TOWARDS GULLIBLE PEOPLE TI INVEST OUTSIDE THE US AND INTO IRAQ THAT WORRIES ME WHEN WE MENTIONED WIRE TRANSFERS IN THAT CONFERENCE CALL...HE DID MENTION HE MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO HIS BANKS FIRST, THEN TO YOURS NOW, HE MIGHT HAVE CHANGED HIS MIND AND HAVE A DEAL WITH WELLS FARGO...OR SOMETHING BUT I DONT BELIEVE HE EVER TOLD ANYONE EXACTLY HOW HE WILL HANDLE THIS OTHER THAN COME IN..PAY HIM PER MILLION AND HE WILL GET IT TO YOUR ACCOUNT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY HOOPS FOR SUCH A BASIC OPERATION AND THATS JMO lawlesslucy says to (20:53:17): well i remember that he told us to have direct numbers to our bank and call...dont leave until it is verified mailman17 says to (20:53:25): HOPE...I DID NOT HERE THAT...SO THAT EVEN MAKES ME WONDER MORE lawlesslucy says to (20:53:49): mm17 i heard him say that mailman17 says to (20:54:25): LAWLESS...YES HE DID...YOU TRUST HIS PEOPLE WITH YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AND ANY OTHER THING HE WOULD REQUIRE JUST TO BE A MIDDLE MAN?...I SURE AS HELL WOULDNT lawlesslucy says to (20:54:51): im not saying im going im just saying that he told us mailman17 says to (20:54:58): I KNOW... THE WHOLE THING IS...THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO GO TO HIM... dales says to (20:55:31): can we just get to that point first, then all can decide mailman17 says to (20:55:43): DALES..THATS THE PLAN I JUST WANTED YOU GUYS TO KNOW WHY WE THINK THE WAY WE DO...THATS ALL...WE HAVE ALWAYS SAID...YOU CAN GO TO ANYONE YOU WANT...BUT DONT CRY WHEN YOU GET ROOKED DodgerBoy says to (20:56:40): I don't get it, WHY would anyone go to a middle man vs. the real thing? mailman17 says to (20:56:56): DODGER...I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THAT TOO A LOT OF THESE SITES AVERTISE ALI...SO I WOULD IMAGINE THEY ARE CONNECTED SOMEHOW ALSO AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF INFLUENCE ON THEIR MEMBERSHIP JUST AS WE DO HERE DINARHAM...BANKS USUALLY CHARGE...UNLESS NEGOTIATED dallasgto says to (20:58:51): MM17--When I bought from Ali, I had to send a copy of my drivers license. Is that going to be bad for me? mailman17 says to (20:58:54): LIKE I SAID...I REALLY DONT CARE WHAT BANK YOU GO TO...KNOWING YOU WENT TO A U.S. BANK IS GOOD ENOUGH...IF YOUR HAPPY, THEN I AM HAPPY...I WAS JUST TRYING TO WARN YOU OF POTENTIAL MISHAPS DALLAS..I NEVER SENT A COPY OF ANYTHING GOP says to (20:59:13): .BOA FIRST THEN CHASE AND CITI guardian says to (20:59:27): after Ali stopped selling, he sent an email with all his locations, the cost to you plus procedures mailman17 says to (21:00:14): GUARDIAN...EXACTLY...HELL IF THATS THE CASE, I WILL HOLD YOUR HAND WHILE YOU GO TO THE BANK AND ONLY CHARGE YOU 10 BUCKS...LOL guardian says to (21:00:23): just saying he still has a plan mailman17 says to (21:00:38): I KOW..I WASNT DIGGIN YA...LOL Aunt Gwennie says to (21:00:58): Ali did not send me anything mailman17 says to (21:01:02): AUNTIE..WHAT?/ CIT HAS A SMALL SHARE IN WARKA...YES Aunt Gwennie says to (21:01:36): when I first started I purchase my first mil from Ali mailman17 says to (21:01:47): BUYINGS OK ALWAYS WAS THAT WAS NEVER MY ISSUE Aunt Gwennie says to (21:02:08): 8 years ago mailman17 says to (21:02:24): YES..YOU HAVE EVEN ME AUNTIE IN TIME...LOL Aunt Gwennie says to (21:02:31): yes mailman17 says to (21:02:36): GOD BLESS YA OK..GONNA RUN...THANKS FOR LETTING ME GET THAT OFF MY CHEST AND INTO YOUR MINDS...I FELL BETTER Preach says to (21:03:29): MM17 We have a friend that is a VP of a bank I won't name who has told us that they will pay whatever is on Forex when this RV's mailman17 says to (21:04:01): DO YOU NEED ALI FOR THAT? NO THATS MY POINT WHETHER YOU GO ON YOUR OWN OR WITH A GROUP...JUST MAKE ONE TRIP...THE BANK AND NO WHERE ELSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theflyingbird Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I agree, I don't think I want a middle man if I can deal directly with a bank. I don't know if I would want to trust a middle man with my personal information. That's just my opinion. GO RV!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarThug Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Adam is negotiating with a Bank on behalf of the VIP Members. It's being discussed in that Section. It's interesting to see the Fallout from Ali's departure and the effect on several other sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midx1 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 He did kind of depart the fix under some strange circumstances and no news from him since then which is kind of questionable. I did not buy my Dinars from him as his rates were way too high. Guess we will all know soon enough what happened here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texhad Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 "Everything done in darkness will be brought into the light." All will be made clear in due time; until then, most all will remain merely speculation. Ali always did for me whatever he promised to do and on a very timely basis. I have no complaints with him. May the Lord bless him and his family in whatever they are dealing with during this time. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin88 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Adam is negotiating with a Bank on behalf of the VIP Members. It's being discussed in that Section. It's interesting to see the Fallout from Ali's departure and the effect on several other sites. Here is you best and safest option use a Foreign Currency Exchange Specialists!!!!! Foreign Currency Exchange Specialists will process large amounts of foreign exchange transactions on a daily basis. Some of these companies trade upwards of 2 billion US Dollars each year. This in turn gives them access to lower spreads on the foreign exchange rates and they also do not add expensive money transfer service fees to the cost of each foreign exchange trade. Your bank's typical exchange rates will be the Interbank plus 5% and then any additional fees. A specialist will be charging the Interbank exchange rate plus 0.4% to 1.5%. SO a EXCHANGE SPECIALIST CAN OFFER .04% to 1.5% and they will show in black and white CAN SOMEONE HERE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY PAY FOR VIP IF THEY WONT SHOW PROOF AS A SPECIALIST WOULD??? Foreign Currency Exchange Specialists can save you money when you need to send or receive foreign currency. Whether you are buying a property overseas or paying a supplier for your business, make sure you contact Currency Index Ltd, the foreign currency exchange specialists. Great Exchange Rates, offering significant savings against typical high street banks No commissions or hidden fees Authorised and Regulated by the FSA and HMRC Highly experienced and dedicated account managers A personal service, to help you get the most suitable currency products for your needs, when you need it Payments sent quickly, safely and securely on your behalf Why Should I use a Foreign Currency Exchange Specialist instead of my bank? The answer is very simple – banks not only have a number of fees attached to any foreign exchange, but they also have a transfer rate much lower than the Interbank Spot rate – meaning you lose money when you make the transition from any currency into any foreign currency. The specialists in the Foreign Exchange field will not only provide you with a superior exchange rate; close to the Interbank Spot rate but also avoid expensive service fees. Simply put – using a Foreign Currency Exchange Specialist will give you the most value-for-money method of buying foreign currency whether for transferring money, buying property, emigrating or for business purposes. No Secret meetings or passwords there are the facts and its free just google it for yourself and when the time comes you can save your self some serious cash and NO paying a monthly membership until the time comes.....IF WE ARE ALL FAMILY HERE WHY DO WE NEED TO PAY FOR SECRET INTEL or Information that is freely available on the internet?? I guess im the A**hole cousin that just gives it to you for free if you want it and steps on a few toes a little bit 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbydee Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 "Everything done in darkness will be brought into the light." All will be made clear in due time; until then, most all will remain merely speculation. Ali always did for me whatever he promised to do and on a very timely basis. I have no complaints with him. May the Lord bless him and his family in whatever they are dealing with during this time. + for you my friend. I agree 100% with your thoughts. Ali has always done right by me. I pray for him and his family to get through whatever trying times they may be going through. As far as cashing in my options are open to best deal out there but first we have to get the RV. Lol. God Bless Semper Fi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim1cor13 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Thanks for the post DRV Some very good yet sad points made by old mailman. I tend to think as far as many dealers go, we will see yet more disappointment than anything else in regards to their empty promises and gimmicks. I am very glad mailman addressed this and I just do not want to see people get hurt by anyone that makes promises they may not be able to fulfill. Ali made his money, the sites that supported him are GUILTY in my opinion in the MANNER in which they boasted and lied in order to make money off of naive people who trusted everything they were told. Now what do they have to show for the hype? That appears to be the sad result and it is a bitter pill to swallow for many folks. I can only hope Ali makes good on his promises...but certainly I would not advise people to use his services based upon what his own recent actions appear to be. It is simply too evident how this became a circus in order to support their dealer friends at a cost to individuals who bought into the hype, while the sites were being paid referrals, the followers got corruption in return for their loyalty. Very sad indeed. All my best! Jim --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarThug Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I guess im the A**hole cousin that just gives it to you for free if you want it and steps on a few toes a little bit [/size] HaHaHa. That's a good one justin88 and some great info as well. I think that I'm the dumb@r$$ cousin and for me it was comforting to join VIP and gain access to the information being dispensed there. With the Capital investment and the amount of time I devote on this website the expenditure was justified for me. Certainly if and when the time comes I want to make an educated decision. Adam's efforts to provide a path for a Post RV strategy is appreciated but certainly not mandatory. I enjoy the give and take allowed on this Site. Thanks for your Witty and Informative Post. And don't worry about stepping on my toes. I'm wearing Clown Shoes ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clkelle Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Adam is negotiating with a Bank on behalf of the VIP Members. It's being discussed in that Section. It's interesting to see the Fallout from Ali's departure and the effect on several other sites. you can also negociate yourself, dah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pammy59 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Just talked to him yesterday and his old site is still up for the reason of people being able to contact him. He only stopped selling Dinar..he intends to open Up His office in Tenn. when the Dinar RV's.. It says right on the site that he will reopen when the Dinar changes value. I bought all my Dinar from him without any problems..All this talk makes a person wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarThug Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 you can also negociate yourself, dah Good point although there is strength in numbers. I'm loosely affiliated with a group of investors here in the Phoenix area and they have been negotiating as a group. I hope that we are all faced with that decision soon ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaborniake Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 You'd better be packing heat if you show up to one of those cash in locations. That's just asking for trouble. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayLee202 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I have a foreign currency specialist downtown DC that does this for a living. I don't mind his organization getting a small cut from my cash in. At least I know I'm dealing with someone legit, I'm not taking anything away from Ali but I don't know him nor anything about his organization. The foreign currency specialist explained to me the entire process and I will be contacting him again tomorrow and will ask if his company is willing to work out a deal pending on how many people I bring to them. You all can do this same thing in your cities as well. Don't take one person's speculation as your final answers. Execute all of your options. We could possibly talking about hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars here; you wouldn't want to take that kind of money to someone you only heard about do you? Just saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jonald Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 funny what people believe, doesn't make sense to me. adam negotiating a better exchange rate for VIP members. i would like to know how that is going to work, not!!! its ok, keep making monthly payments for that. it was a good idea though cuz people will believe anything and pay it.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobFCP Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 funny what people believe, doesn't make sense to me. adam negotiating a better exchange rate for VIP members. i would like to know how that is going to work, not!!! its ok, keep making monthly payments for that. it was a good idea though cuz people will believe anything and pay it.... I don't feel like you have been around long enough to know about Adam Montana, He is a stand up guy and a very smart business man. I and many others appreciate all he does for us. Read more and you will understand. Bob 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingsofhope Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Pretty sure each one of you can negotiate terms and rates with any bank just as you have been doing your whole adult life. Once this goes public any and all bankers will be more than happy to negotiate the rate.....Keep it real folks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jonald Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Pretty sure each one of you can negotiate terms and rates with any bank just as you have been doing your whole adult life. Once this goes public any and all bankers will be more than happy to negotiate the rate.....Keep it real folks ya, thank you... i never said anything about adam, sure he is a great guy. i actually said it was a good idea what he is doing. just people like bobfpc pay him money every month, for what, so he can negotiate at a bank for you when you can do the same. And i have been around for a long time son............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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