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Leaders across America whose organizations represent literally millions of people have told the nation of Israel, much like the wizard told Dorothy in Oz, "don't listen to that man behind the curtain," or in the current case, don't listen to the man in the White House.

The message came just hours after Barack Obama announced to the world Israel needs to return to its pre-1967 borders to appease Palestinians dedicated to the annihilation of the Jewish nation.

Obama made the statement in an address in advance of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's planned visit to the White House today. Netanyahu preceded the visit with a statement rejecting Obama's call for a Palestinian state based on Israel's pre-1967 borders, calling the lines "indefensible."

The message to Israel was in a full-page newspaper ad published today in Jerusalem by a coalition of American organizations coming together under the slogan "Israel, You're Not Alone.

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"WE STAND WITH YOU," the Jerusalem Post ad states. "Mr. Prime Minister, you are not alone! Millions of Americans stand with you and Israel and we welcome you on your upcoming visit to the United States of America."

Newspaper ad representing millions of Americans

The ad is signed by dozens of leaders of major Christian and other organizations including Tim Wildman of American Family Association, Gov. Mike Huckabee, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, now of Family Talk, Gen. William G. "Jerry" Boykin of Kingdom Warriors, Bill McCartney of Promise Keepers, Judge Roy Moore of the Foundation for Moral Law, Jimmy Draper of LifeWay Christian Resources, Rev. Rob Schenck of National Clergy Council, **** and Rich Bott of Bott Radio Network and Jane Hansen-Hoyt of Aglow International.

Their names are here:

Newspaper ad representing millions of Americans

The message of the ad, which appeared one day earlier in the Wall Street Journal, isn't complicated:

"We, the undersigned, encourage President Obama, the State Department, the Congress, and the whole of the United States of America to stand unwaveringly with Israel, without further sacrificing Israel's sovereignty, safety, or security."

It asserts that the United Nations "Peace Plan" actually is "not a plan for peace at all, but would ethnically cleanse 400,000 Jews from their homes and lands. No foreign country or U.N. resolution has the right to decide a nation's borders."

"We must stand with Israel at this critical time," said Mike Gottfriend of Team Focus, one of the originators of the idea. "We are thrilled that more than 50 Christian and Jewish leaders, who represent millions of Americans, have joined the ad and the effort."

Gottfriend is a former ESPN sports commentator and head coach in Cinncinnati, Kansas and Pittsburgh.

A news conference on the issue is set Monday at 1 p.m. Eastern time at the National Press Club with many of the leaders.

Gottfriend said members of Congress need to oppose Obama's remarks "immediately."

His plan, Gottfried said, would not only divide Jerusalem and the nation of Israel but make America's strongest ally in the region nearly indefensible.

"Who are we to change Israel's borders," asked Janet Porter, president of Faith2Action. "We must stand with Israel like never before."

On the website is information about the effort, including a video:

Porter told WND the ad is a response to Obama's "assault" on Israel.

Based on biblical references to the Jewish nation as the "apple of God's eye," she said, "I believe that to follow what the president would want puts both countries in peril."

She said the Palestinians from whom Obama is trying to obtain favor "do not recognize the right [of Israel] to exist. They despise her."

Even on a secular plane, without references to the biblical prophecies regarding Israel, she said, "No foreign country or U.N. resolution has a right to decide a nation's borders. In America, if we can tell Israel its borders, what keeps Dearborn from a U.N. resolution announcing 'Dearbornistan. It's absurd."

The newspaper ad said:

We stand with your right to secure Israel's borders without giving away additional land to your openly avowed enemies who do not recognize your right to exist. We recognize that former "land for peace" agreements such as the Gaza withdrawal that ravaged thousands of families from their homes, only served to increase terrorist attacks from even closer range, killing many innocent men, women, and children.

We recognize that the United Nations "peace plan" is NOT a plan for peace at all, but would ethnically cleanse 400,000 Jews from their homes and lands. No foreign country or U.N. resolution has the right to decide a nation's borders.

We acknowledge Jerusalem as Israel's God-ordained undivided capital, knowing that Israel's sovereignty will protect the holy sites of all faiths, rather than allowing them to come under control of Hamas terrorists who hate Jews and Christians alike.

We honor Israel as our greatest and most trusted friend and ally in the region, and are grateful for the vital intelligence and technological advances that have enhanced our own security. We believe Israel's ancient prophets who warned of dire consequencs to any nation who would divide your land.

Obama's request was for Israel to contract in size until it is within the borders that existed before the 1967 Six-Day War.

Obama and Netanyahu had a "useful" conversation, Obama reported after the meeting.

"We agreed there is a moment of opportunity that can be seized as a consequence of the Arab spring," Obama said.

He said it is important for the U.S. to support the development of freedom in the Middle East and northern Africa, where movements pressing for democracy have developed.

Netanyahu said, "We have an enduring bond of friendship between our two countries. … We share your hope and vision for the spread of democracy in the Middle East."

He said Israel wants peace.

"I think for there to be peace, the Palestinians will have to accept some basic reality. While Israel is prepared to make generous concessions for peace, it cannot go back to the 1967 lines."

Further, he said Israel cannot negotiate with a Palestinian organization backed by Hamas, which is recognized by the U.S. as a terror organization.

Read more: http://tinyurl.com/4xs2hd6

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I listened to the Isreali Leaders response to Obamas proposal and without question he SCHOOL obama on diplomacy... leadership...history...tact and all around common sense....our President is a under qualified lightweight in the arena of world politics and is a complete embarrassment to ME...thats my 2 cents

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Obama will make them a deal they cannot refuse. he will gurantee Israel safety by deploying a US Peace Keeping force to keep Hamas, Islamic Jihad and any other crack heads that decide to make an organization against Isreal. It has already begun, Egypt is going to fall in line with every other arab nation. No one in there right mind will launch an attack against Israel. Once Benjamin looks over the entire plan he will come to the table and so will the Palestians. The Terror groups will be brought in line or destroyed. Then again we will be debating this again.

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Common sense PREVAILED here and Israel told Obama where they stood. Obama is a disgrace to our great NATION and has all but alienated our allies around the world, his lack of any foreign policy and to date the illegal use of our Military in Libya is just a damn shame and he should be impeached or tried in court as a traitor to this country. America has and will always stand with the Jews in Israel I know that I and many other folks do as well and always will. At this point I'm trying to discern how much more damage this moron can do between now and the elections when we dump this IDIOT.

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I agree that he should be backing the people, OUR fellow countymen, in protecting the southwestern borders, and he should keep his "global government" nose out of pushing a weak, progressive agenda on our Israeli friends.

On the lighter side, with the rapture supposed to be happening today, you may be comforted in the fact that it will, in no way, interrupt the Obama re-election campaign.

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My president does not speak for me and my family. As a christian, (his words) he should understand the importance of standing with Isreal and not against her. It scares me to think what will happen to the U.S. if our leader does not bless Isreal instead of curse her. Maybe Obama needs to go back and look at the history of every nation that opposed or oppressed Isreal for the last 2500 years. They are all gone but yet Isreal remains. Our church belongs to an organization called Christians United for Isreal (CUFI) that continually asks members of congress and senate not to turn their backs on the best ally we have in the middle east. My family will do as the bible says we do, not suggest, and bless isreal.

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Obama's administration appears to increasingly be a clone of Jimmy Carter's: inexperienced, out of touch with the concerns of the majority of Americans, and viewed as weak and ineffectual by most other nations. He got lucky with the Bin Laden raid, but that won't carry him through the next election.

With the municipal bond crisis looming, the only thing that might save him in the next election would be an IQD RV, IF the US does indeed hold the trillions of IQD many people think it does. Otherwise, the 2012 election mantra will be a reprise of the 1992 campaign: "It's the economy, stupid." This time, though, the Democrat may not be on the winning side. JMO.

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Leaders across America whose organizations represent literally millions of people have told the nation of Israel, much like the wizard told Dorothy in Oz, "don't listen to that man behind the curtain," or in the current case, don't listen to the man in the White House.

The message came just hours after Barack Obama announced to the world Israel needs to return to its pre-1967 borders to appease Palestinians dedicated to the annihilation of the Jewish nation.

Obama made the statement in an address in advance of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's planned visit to the White House today. Netanyahu preceded the visit with a statement rejecting Obama's call for a Palestinian state based on Israel's pre-1967 borders, calling the lines "indefensible."

The message to Israel was in a full-page newspaper ad published today in Jerusalem by a coalition of American organizations coming together under the slogan "Israel, You're Not Alone.

(Story continues below)

"WE STAND WITH YOU," the Jerusalem Post ad states. "Mr. Prime Minister, you are not alone! Millions of Americans stand with you and Israel and we welcome you on your upcoming visit to the United States of America."

Newspaper ad representing millions of Americans

The ad is signed by dozens of leaders of major Christian and other organizations including Tim Wildman of American Family Association, Gov. Mike Huckabee, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, now of Family Talk, Gen. William G. "Jerry" Boykin of Kingdom Warriors, Bill McCartney of Promise Keepers, Judge Roy Moore of the Foundation for Moral Law, Jimmy Draper of LifeWay Christian Resources, Rev. Rob Schenck of National Clergy Council, **** and Rich Bott of Bott Radio Network and Jane Hansen-Hoyt of Aglow International.

Their names are here:

Newspaper ad representing millions of Americans

The message of the ad, which appeared one day earlier in the Wall Street Journal, isn't complicated:

"We, the undersigned, encourage President Obama, the State Department, the Congress, and the whole of the United States of America to stand unwaveringly with Israel, without further sacrificing Israel's sovereignty, safety, or security."

It asserts that the United Nations "Peace Plan" actually is "not a plan for peace at all, but would ethnically cleanse 400,000 Jews from their homes and lands. No foreign country or U.N. resolution has the right to decide a nation's borders."

"We must stand with Israel at this critical time," said Mike Gottfriend of Team Focus, one of the originators of the idea. "We are thrilled that more than 50 Christian and Jewish leaders, who represent millions of Americans, have joined the ad and the effort."

Gottfriend is a former ESPN sports commentator and head coach in Cinncinnati, Kansas and Pittsburgh.

A news conference on the issue is set Monday at 1 p.m. Eastern time at the National Press Club with many of the leaders.

Gottfriend said members of Congress need to oppose Obama's remarks "immediately."

His plan, Gottfried said, would not only divide Jerusalem and the nation of Israel but make America's strongest ally in the region nearly indefensible.

"Who are we to change Israel's borders," asked Janet Porter, president of Faith2Action. "We must stand with Israel like never before."

On the website is information about the effort, including a video:

Porter told WND the ad is a response to Obama's "assault" on Israel.

Based on biblical references to the Jewish nation as the "apple of God's eye," she said, "I believe that to follow what the president would want puts both countries in peril."

She said the Palestinians from whom Obama is trying to obtain favor "do not recognize the right [of Israel] to exist. They despise her."

Even on a secular plane, without references to the biblical prophecies regarding Israel, she said, "No foreign country or U.N. resolution has a right to decide a nation's borders. In America, if we can tell Israel its borders, what keeps Dearborn from a U.N. resolution announcing 'Dearbornistan. It's absurd."

The newspaper ad said:

We stand with your right to secure Israel's borders without giving away additional land to your openly avowed enemies who do not recognize your right to exist. We recognize that former "land for peace" agreements such as the Gaza withdrawal that ravaged thousands of families from their homes, only served to increase terrorist attacks from even closer range, killing many innocent men, women, and children.

We recognize that the United Nations "peace plan" is NOT a plan for peace at all, but would ethnically cleanse 400,000 Jews from their homes and lands. No foreign country or U.N. resolution has the right to decide a nation's borders.

We acknowledge Jerusalem as Israel's God-ordained undivided capital, knowing that Israel's sovereignty will protect the holy sites of all faiths, rather than allowing them to come under control of Hamas terrorists who hate Jews and Christians alike.

We honor Israel as our greatest and most trusted friend and ally in the region, and are grateful for the vital intelligence and technological advances that have enhanced our own security. We believe Israel's ancient prophets who warned of dire consequencs to any nation who would divide your land.

Obama's request was for Israel to contract in size until it is within the borders that existed before the 1967 Six-Day War.

Obama and Netanyahu had a "useful" conversation, Obama reported after the meeting.

"We agreed there is a moment of opportunity that can be seized as a consequence of the Arab spring," Obama said.

He said it is important for the U.S. to support the development of freedom in the Middle East and northern Africa, where movements pressing for democracy have developed.

Netanyahu said, "We have an enduring bond of friendship between our two countries. … We share your hope and vision for the spread of democracy in the Middle East."

He said Israel wants peace.

"I think for there to be peace, the Palestinians will have to accept some basic reality. While Israel is prepared to make generous concessions for peace, it cannot go back to the 1967 lines."

Further, he said Israel cannot negotiate with a Palestinian organization backed by Hamas, which is recognized by the U.S. as a terror organization.

Read more: http://tinyurl.com/4xs2hd6

You guys had better study the holy scriptures in depth. Look to Timbuktu and Ethiopia to find out who the occupiers of that Holy Land really are and if that fails the small brains of the unlearned, read Revelations over and over and over until the light bulb turns on. The evil must and will stop whether you, me or the Whole World likes it or not. Call it what you want but these people that are making the decisions have awakened to the truth and are scrambling to save their own jackasses!

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Whether Obama or any President, no one has the right to expect Israel to go back to 1967. He, as well as anyone else, needs to mind his own business. Has he suggested that any of the Muslim countries give up anything they have taken? How about Africa? Maybe if some of the state-nations in Africa would give up some of the lands and possessions they have aquired that there might be more peace in Africa and less fighting. Anyone making suggestions over there? Leave Israel alone and let them govern themselves. We need to start minding our own business and start taking care of America First! Pull some of the money going to the cartels in Mexico and Muslim countries and start rebuilding Tennessee and other areas hit hard by the flood. AMERICA FIRST!!!!!!

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I listened to the Isreali Leaders response to Obamas proposal and without question he SCHOOL obama on diplomacy... leadership...history...tact and all around common sense....our President is a under qualified lightweight in the arena of world politics and is a complete embarrassment to ME...thats my 2 cents

Possibly the most accurate thing I have read on DV!

Don't leave out the entire cabinet, speech writers, and "Advisors" to the president (Van Jones, et al) and their Progressive agenda.

I have been reading DV since the first of the year, and after watching and listening to BO's speech I could no longer remain silent.

"First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me." - "First They Came for the Jews" - Pastor Niemoller

I am all-in on DV, and hope to have a safe world to enjoy the outcome.

I like it here in the tropics, burqua's (Afghanistan sunblock?) just don't cut it on the boat and beach.

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The Laws of our Land make it very clear that ANYONE who consorts with our enemy is guilty of TREASON. The "crack pot" in the White House is certianly guilty of multiple counts of TREASON and should not only be impeached but found guilty of TREASON with the appropriate punishment as prescribed by law.

He is a disgrace and a laughing stock.

And the thing that scares me the most is that the thing we each want the most, the RV, has a good chance of putting him back into the White House with nothing to lose (no legal attemp to remain for a third term". WE will be free to accomplish his desires which is an overthrow of the US Constitution. He is not a socialist or a communist. He is far far worse. He is a revolutionary with muslim ties that wants to destroy what is left of our country.

Wake up America - Wake up Christians - See him for what he is.

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Obama will make them a deal they cannot refuse. he will gurantee Israel safety by deploying a US Peace Keeping force to keep Hamas, Islamic Jihad and any other crack heads that decide to make an organization against Isreal. It has already begun, Egypt is going to fall in line with every other arab nation. No one in there right mind will launch an attack against Israel. Once Benjamin looks over the entire plan he will come to the table and so will the Palestians. The Terror groups will be brought in line or destroyed. Then again we will be debating this again.

Guess we will see if Perry Stone is right or worng, wont we.

Obama will make them a deal they cannot refuse. he will gurantee Israel safety by deploying a US Peace Keeping force to keep Hamas, Islamic Jihad and any other crack heads that decide to make an organization against Isreal. It has already begun, Egypt is going to fall in line with every other arab nation. No one in there right mind will launch an attack against Israel. Once Benjamin looks over the entire plan he will come to the table and so will the Palestians. The Terror groups will be brought in line or destroyed. Then again we will be debating this again.

Guess we will see if Perry Stone is right or worng, wont we.

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